How the Irish Influenced Russia's Military and Culture

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  • @gurglejug627
    @gurglejug627 2 місяці тому +48

    Just after Perestroika, in Russia, in the early 90s I met a man named Michael Brook who ran a climbing gear shop in the city of Sverdlovsk, in the inside of a vast stone water tower. He looked as Irish as ever there was, what with black curly hair and the bright blue Celtic eyes, but not a word of any language other than Russian could he speak. It felt natural to address him only in English or a Celtic tongue. Through an interpreter he told us his forefathers were Irish nobility who had sought refuge in Russia long ago - yet the body language, the lot was still there.

  • @barryb90
    @barryb90 2 місяці тому +30

    I never knew this, but I knew about Bernardo O'Higgins liberating Chile and William Brown founding the Argentine Navy.

    • @matthewbarry376
      @matthewbarry376 2 місяці тому +3

      General Patrice de MacMahon of France.
      Leopoldo O'Donnell Duke of Tetuan

    • @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue
      @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue 2 місяці тому +4

      Kind of sad the Irish could help everyone else but not fight for our own here for centuries

    • @donallmccrudden4812
      @donallmccrudden4812 2 місяці тому

      Plus che Guevara had irish ancestry, his 4× great grandfather was called patrick lynch from Athenry Co.galway, him and his descendants done fairly well for themselves, mostly

    • @matthewbarry376
      @matthewbarry376 2 місяці тому

      @@donallmccrudden4812 If I'm correct the natives called him the red Prince because of his red hair

    • @PaddyODwyer-r8c
      @PaddyODwyer-r8c 2 місяці тому +1

      Uruguayan navy also founded by an Irishman from Tipp Town

  • @carmelhegarty9829
    @carmelhegarty9829 2 місяці тому +23

    This is a powerful History lesson, so brilliantly told. Thank you Valour and Vice. God Bless . 🙏🇮🇪🙏

    • @ValorandVice
      @ValorandVice  2 місяці тому +5

      Thanks for watching and your kind words.

  • @carrigadaashcroft
    @carrigadaashcroft 2 місяці тому +16

    Absolutely fascinating, and well narrated

  • @elainethomson7146
    @elainethomson7146 2 місяці тому +15

    Thank you for shining a light into this forgotten corner of history. Very informative and enjoyable. ❤

  • @finbarrburke2344
    @finbarrburke2344 2 місяці тому +4

    fantastic video, thanks

  • @gavinfoley103
    @gavinfoley103 2 місяці тому +7

    Fascinating. Thank you.

  • @kevinwhelan9607
    @kevinwhelan9607 2 місяці тому +3

    This was absolutely fascinating - thanks so much for posting.

  • @KingsleyGallagher
    @KingsleyGallagher 2 місяці тому +10

    Quality ☘️☘️☘️

  • @HoboGodfrey
    @HoboGodfrey 2 місяці тому +9

    From Kilmallock. Younger DeLacys went to Vienna, Hapsburgs.

  • @michaelryan5962
    @michaelryan5962 Місяць тому +1

    You learn something knew every day, never heard this before very interesting,

  • @deskirby309
    @deskirby309 2 місяці тому +13

    The Irish government gave a loan to revolutionary Russia in the 1920s(before we had won independence from Britain). As collateral for the loan the Russian government gave us their crown jewels. They were kept in ireland until the 1940s. Eventually they were given back to Russia.

    • @Dabhach1
      @Dabhach1 Місяць тому +1

      I don't think it was the complete set of crown jewels. More like a low-end taster from the imperial collection. The Soviets either welshed on the loan, or, more likely, just forgot about it in the chaos of the next couple of decades. The Irish government sent the jewels to Christies in London for evaluation in the 1940s and were told they were worth only a fraction of the loan value. However, the Soviets then coughed up the loan and the jewels were returned.

    • @deskirby309
      @deskirby309 Місяць тому

      @@Dabhach1 Thank you for the info. To my knowledge there were 4 items. A cluster that may have been part of a crown. A pendant and earrings. It belonged to the now deceased Romanovs. It was a fascinating time, when countries were striking out for independence.

    • @scumskimmer
      @scumskimmer Місяць тому

      I wouldn't be too proud of that!

  • @BrianOh-uc3gm
    @BrianOh-uc3gm 2 місяці тому +7

    Interesting

  • @lilliankeane5731
    @lilliankeane5731 26 днів тому

    That was very interesting , i learned a lot. I knew only half of that.

  • @grahamlight9283
    @grahamlight9283 2 місяці тому +45

    As an Irishman I am very proud of our contributions to Russia but it doesn't stop there. When nobody would give a loan to the Russian revolution we offered Russia a loan in which they gave us some of the Russian Crown Jewels. The jewels were returned when the loan was paid back many years later.The loan was for £20,000 not a small sum in its day considering the Jewels were valued at £1,600.

    • @andrewcheetham6507
      @andrewcheetham6507 2 місяці тому

      Irish influence that explains alot

    • @PersonOfTheInternet280
      @PersonOfTheInternet280 2 місяці тому +4

      It was the royal jewelry of Cathrine The Great herald in Dublin Castle.
      The funny thing is we got loads of money from the Irish diaspora in the USA. They gave us money to fight our independence war and we had too much money for our own good and bought allies with it.

    • @Tomoko_Kuroki888
      @Tomoko_Kuroki888 2 місяці тому +7

      Loaning communist radicals is not a good thing

    • @roryoleary2166
      @roryoleary2166 2 місяці тому

      I agree. It has nothing to do with cuisine.​@@Tomoko_Kuroki888

    • @spazzymacgee5648
      @spazzymacgee5648 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@Tomoko_Kuroki888 you haven't a clue about Russia or Ireland.

  • @MichaelWhite-i3b
    @MichaelWhite-i3b Місяць тому +1

    My mother's ancestor's were among the military who served in high ranks in the Russian army.

  • @SteveCondron
    @SteveCondron 2 місяці тому +7

    John Field is little known outside of classical music circles but Chopin would not be so widely known and celebrated were it not for Fields influence.

    • @Anrirua
      @Anrirua Місяць тому

      Field was an expert at the Choppin but Chopin was an expert in the field. So he won out. The hoor

  • @adamos9879
    @adamos9879 2 місяці тому +9

    Wow! I never realized. To contribute to such a great nation is amazing. Slava Russia! Slava Eireann!

  • @OffHeGoesCBX
    @OffHeGoesCBX 2 місяці тому +2

    Proud to be Irish, Erin go bragh ☘️

  • @foxa3824
    @foxa3824 2 місяці тому +8

    The De lacey family were Norman descendants, so I guess it was a Viking thing with this family.

    • @anthonymullen6300
      @anthonymullen6300 2 місяці тому +2

      How is the relevant, really. The Normans became more Irish than the Irish, but if you want to go down that road... most of the English aristocracy, landowners and kings and queens are of French blood, let's go back even further where we are all Descendants from Africans.
      But I guess you couldn't help yourself you think all Irish are one homogeneous group... sad.

    • @foxa3824
      @foxa3824 2 місяці тому +1

      @@anthonymullen6300 actually I was more thinking they were all a blood thirsty lot. And given that I pointed out that they were Norman, thus Frankified, and originally Viking being descendents of Rollo, I hardly think that would indicate I think the Irish are one homogeneous group. As a student of history, I am very aware that we are not homogeneous.. that was the point. I am Irish, proud of that fact, but not excessively so and as I have lived as an expat most of my life I never tire of pointing out the complexities of our history to others and of the often great contributions of Irish men and women both the gaelige and Anglo Irish. Next time I will be a little more explicit in my humorous comments

    • @jackoshea7668
      @jackoshea7668 2 місяці тому +1

      I think 800 years later you could really call him Irish don’t you think?

    • @jackoshea7668
      @jackoshea7668 2 місяці тому +1

      I think 800 years later you could really call him Irish don’t you think?

  • @michaelm5285
    @michaelm5285 2 місяці тому +8

    My dad told me about this over 40 years ago why are we surprised we saved christianity in europe when it was almost finished

    • @roryd1888
      @roryd1888 2 місяці тому

      When was Christianity almost finished in Europe?

    • @rodneystockton
      @rodneystockton Місяць тому +1

      ​@@roryd1888 Do a little bit of reading Mr. Enjoy it.

    • @roryd1888
      @roryd1888 Місяць тому

      @@rodneystockton 😂 what fictional novel do you recommend?

    • @michaelboyle5805
      @michaelboyle5805 Місяць тому +1

      You never of St Columbanus 😂
      Irish 6th century monk, went around Europe building churches and monasteries.
      Many place names in France, Germany,Switzerland and Italy named after him.
      Even Christopher Columbas is named after him.
      Read a book, I know a book is probably to overwhelming for you, 😂
      The calendar we use was his idea.
      Many places in France, Germany, Switzerland and Italy are named after him.
      Because if you didn't know, ,6th and 7th centuries in europe were known as the dark ages.
      Europe had become pagan, with despot Kings ruling the peasants and not following the bible.
      So he went around with a handful of monks ,with copies of the bible.
      Copies they had written in their own hand. Converting the people back to Christianity.
      You really should know what your talking about,,before you make stupid comments.

    • @michaelm5285
      @michaelm5285 Місяць тому

      @@michaelboyle5805 💯💥👍

  • @ko0974
    @ko0974 2 місяці тому +1

    Gem of a video ,can ni estly say,did not know any of this history

  • @jcoker423
    @jcoker423 Місяць тому

    There's a castle in Latvia called Lielstraupes Pils which was owned by the DeLacys (AngloNormans) who became Baltic Germans and then Russians.
    Also worked with a couple of Russians in Russia who said 1 of their grandparents were Irish or Scots.

  • @mauriceoreilly9955
    @mauriceoreilly9955 2 місяці тому +5

    Interesting popular account of the military & cultural contributions of Irishmen (and no women!) to Russia. The bouncing bold text detracts from the video. It's odd to introduce Maurice de Lacy is not identified as Peter's son. Peter's brother was my 5 great-grandfather.

  • @bobbieschke599
    @bobbieschke599 Місяць тому +1

    Peter the Great utilized many western soldiers and sailors. One admiral was Dutch, and Peter had affairs with his daughter. He created a town full of western Europeans. This Czar wanted to pull Russia from its backwater place in Europe, banning beards and Slavic clothing. Catherine the Great was German, and used foreigners to expand her power. Anytime the Irish could fight the British, in the service of another country they did. Napoleon's Gen. De Molay was Irish, O' Malley. The St. Patrick battalion of Mexico were Irish deserters who fought their Protestant Americans during the Mexican American War..........

  • @AJ_real
    @AJ_real 2 місяці тому +1

    Man, we went everywhere.

  • @olanneeson3990
    @olanneeson3990 2 місяці тому +7

    Few are aware that the worlds first socialist commune was established in County Clare on the West coast of Ireland , in the nineteenth century .

    • @Anrirua
      @Anrirua Місяць тому

      And another in Co Laois, in Wolfhill. Because of the oppressive conditions of the coalmines in North Kilkenny/ South Laois (Castlecomer Plateau)

  • @davidschley8773
    @davidschley8773 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for sharing this interesting video R.I.P my Mother KIlmalloch Limerick , it show's the world of humans is diverse and some how all connected in some way or other. And that even though we are a tiny Island , we as a spicie may have travelled continents and changed names and countries throughout all our DNA and recent linages , But it is amazing ......how offended some neocon war mongers want to spread hate out of fear of the unknown , and try to twist this into something BAD .... instead of forming some kind of little way, to reach out to ordinary innocent people and find peace and commonality in the world ... especially when the world and our existence is in peril . Ignorance is bliss they say , but also very dangerous . IS IT not about time, we used our neutraility to broker some peace, and stop this childish cheer leading out and out murder , being used as tiny puppets for people who are blinded by. propaganda, or do they think they will be very safe to exit some nuclear shelters and everything will be rosy in the garden after two thousand years . How come nobody is asking ? Where is Green peace ? where is Stop the Nukes ? it is down right amazing, how people can not see how dangerous dogma and playing this game of chicken , cheer leading nuclear super powers into ending it all . Ireland.... I m afraid is loosing it's stance as a peace broker in the world , agree or disagree , this new nazi woke neoliberal usa/western stance , And I m not looking for a weaker but stronger USA or Europe where people make friends and products and live without fear , LEAST WE forget , JFK s personal back channel phone to the Russian leader saved the world last time out , and .. I am saying this as a grandson of an New York born Irish American grand father , who fought helped free most of The Republic of Ireland , he was locked up, broke out against the British ( ferrets of Kildare 1921) , JFKs Irish American back channel phone call saved the planet the last time around... Where is that reasonalbe brave humanistic Irish voice today in world politics ???? 🏁☘☘☘

    • @nightstorm9128
      @nightstorm9128 2 місяці тому

      Why do you say RIP killmallock,,,,,,,,,,Kilmallock town is still here,,,,,I'm in my house there right now,,,

    • @andrewcarragher5874
      @andrewcarragher5874 2 місяці тому

      R.F.K. Jr. ......!

  • @HoboGodfrey
    @HoboGodfrey 2 місяці тому +5

    DeLacy

  • @michaelboyle5805
    @michaelboyle5805 Місяць тому +1

    The Mexican war with the yanks, Irish fought to the last man, and those that were caught were hung.
    Which is against the rules of war.
    But that's the yanks, couldn't handle the Irish fighting against them

  • @kets4443
    @kets4443 Місяць тому

    Also the many Scottish people who served Continental European kingdoms in early modern times

  • @castlegate2015
    @castlegate2015 Місяць тому

    The Irish work hard and hence are welcome anywhere n the world.

  • @mauriceluciano5211
    @mauriceluciano5211 2 місяці тому

    When did David Attenborough start narrating YT videos?! ;)

  • @paddyt4043
    @paddyt4043 2 місяці тому +1

    I am lead to belive that there is grammatical similarities between our natives language's also, some , not many but some .

  • @nathanprendergast5825
    @nathanprendergast5825 2 місяці тому

    Where did you get your sources

  • @user-fl8yv7rz6f
    @user-fl8yv7rz6f 2 місяці тому +3

    We showed them how to make vodka too 😂

  • @looneyirish007
    @looneyirish007 2 місяці тому +1

    Is the narrator the fella who loves canal boats? What's his name? Timothy West? It has to be him.

    • @freebornjohn2687
      @freebornjohn2687 2 місяці тому +2

      I don't think its him but it sounds like a well educated man in his 60/70s from the south of England.

    • @MrGrentch
      @MrGrentch 2 місяці тому +3

      @@freebornjohn2687 It's an AI rendition of Sir David Attenborough. Which to be fair kinda fits your take on it.

  • @stevenrowlandson9650
    @stevenrowlandson9650 2 місяці тому +3

    May be Ireland is in part a product of ancient Indo Europeans from what is now Russia.

  • @raylamberton6002
    @raylamberton6002 2 місяці тому +2

    The Irish have left their foot prints all over the planet.

    • @finger3306
      @finger3306 2 місяці тому

      As has every other culture, we aren't special 😂

  • @briancostello6892
    @briancostello6892 2 місяці тому +27

    Well Well. Never Knew This. I’m Irish living in America. The Way Western Morality Has Changed. I’m Thinking About moving to Motherland Russia

    • @sockymonster9284
      @sockymonster9284 2 місяці тому +5

      good man yourself. Off you go, send pictures.

    • @PatrickCotter-lv7zb
      @PatrickCotter-lv7zb 2 місяці тому +2

      Yea, well don’t dream of coming to Ireland.

    • @Iceageonmars
      @Iceageonmars 2 місяці тому +4

      Good luck from Ireland - you’ll need it! ☘️

    • @kowalski8
      @kowalski8 2 місяці тому

      Motherland is your motherland ? You’re russian which is a shame

    • @gentkamberi8533
      @gentkamberi8533 2 місяці тому +2

      And you’ll be sent to the front to “help earn Russian passport “

  • @esterherschkovich6499
    @esterherschkovich6499 Місяць тому +1

    First I have heard of Irish in Russia 🤔No Russians ever talk about it... Irelands Army🤔

    • @ValorandVice
      @ValorandVice  Місяць тому

      Yes. That’s why we made the video. To make this well known.

  • @Irish780
    @Irish780 2 місяці тому +3

    Lord 😮 we were everywhere

    • @andrewcheetham6507
      @andrewcheetham6507 2 місяці тому

      Mainly Australian

    • @Irish780
      @Irish780 2 місяці тому

      @andrewcheetham6507 so sorry bro but at least your pub industry is doing welll and they work always work 😕

    • @zeg52
      @zeg52 2 місяці тому

      And the first man on the moon was Irish too-Neil Armstrong, whose descendants were from Ulster.

    • @Irish780
      @Irish780 2 місяці тому

      @zeg52 😄 🤣 😂 😆 thank u I don't believe anybody landed there but I appreciate your support lol lol

    • @michaelmessenger5742
      @michaelmessenger5742 2 місяці тому +1

      Every corner of the planet we reached
      Yet we're rejecting immigrants back home
      for doing what we did & what we still do
      Aren't they worthy enough to dream too

  • @johnnybgood5836
    @johnnybgood5836 2 місяці тому +9

    If you're Irish come into the Dacha there's a vodka there for you .....

    • @Anrirua
      @Anrirua Місяць тому +1

      Fair play.
      Are ya right there Mikhail are ya right?😂🎉

  • @charlesd3a
    @charlesd3a 2 місяці тому +5

    Irish saints are revered within the Russian church.

  • @EllandRoar84
    @EllandRoar84 2 місяці тому +2

    🇮🇪 🇷🇺 ✊

  • @mh73ful
    @mh73ful 2 місяці тому +11

    Great to not everyone is against Russia this war would never have happened if the u.s and the EU, kept out of Ukraine.

    • @zeg52
      @zeg52 2 місяці тому +3

      Here here!

    • @Lala-kc2fw
      @Lala-kc2fw Місяць тому

      Ye, Georgia should have stayed out of it in 2008...😂

  • @gary1632
    @gary1632 Місяць тому +1

    Bragging about influence in the Russian military is not a brag.

    • @ValorandVice
      @ValorandVice  Місяць тому +1

      Why? The army that defeated Napoleon, and Hitler? What about influencing the U.S. army? The one who did the trail of tears? History is complex and the Russian army influenced by the Irish was not Putin or Stalins army

  • @JoeMacdonagh
    @JoeMacdonagh 2 місяці тому +3

    Hmm, Delacy is not an Irish surname.

    • @ValorandVice
      @ValorandVice  2 місяці тому +12

      It is an Irish Surname of Norman origin. Their ancestors were originally from the town of Lassy in Northern France, but integrated into Irish catholic society. They suffered horribly during Cromwell rule, and many left Ireland during the flight of the wild geese. There is another Lacy or Lees of purely Irish origin I have seen suggestions that people of note with the last name sometimes claim relations with the noble family.

    • @declancooney1029
      @declancooney1029 2 місяці тому +7

      Neither is DeValera ! W B Yates, Swift, T Wolfe Tone etc etc

    • @mcdaddy2011
      @mcdaddy2011 2 місяці тому +3

      Loads of Norman names that became Irish. Hiberniores Hibernis ipsis - more Irish than the Irish themselves. Disney. Boyle. Roddy. Dempsey. All examples of Hiberno-Norman names. As is Lacey

    • @DDCCO61
      @DDCCO61 2 місяці тому

      Neither was my great great grandmother but she immersed herself in Irish folklore and language. My great great grandfather was illiterate and in a journal my g g grandmother wrote about him in French (her native language), 'I thought his honesty to be simplistic, naive and childlike but when he died and I could no longer hear his voice it was then I realised his mastery.' Nine years they were married but in her writings that have survived she never indicated if they were blissful years.

    • @zeg52
      @zeg52 2 місяці тому +1

      Anglo-Norman, i.e. "Old English". It may not be Gaelic, but it's Irish in his case. The Irish are a nation of several races.

  • @ivanhunter3907
    @ivanhunter3907 2 місяці тому +4

    Is this a propaganda video to soften Irish Russian relations. Ffs this as bad a putin harking back to Peter the great and Russian entitlement

    • @ValorandVice
      @ValorandVice  2 місяці тому +12

      That’s the last thing on my mind. It’s a video to show how the Irish contributed in everywhere they went including in unexpected times places. You can check the rest of my videos for how I feel about events in Russia, but thanks.

    • @LeMerch
      @LeMerch 2 місяці тому +4

      A history lesson on youtube is somehow a 'propaganda video'?

    • @briancostello6892
      @briancostello6892 2 місяці тому +6

      Wonderful to Learn about this
      I never knew. But I’m thinking of moving to Russia. Because of Morals.

    • @ivanhunter3907
      @ivanhunter3907 2 місяці тому +7

      @@LeMerch it’s timing is!! Perhaps it’s genuine but I’m quite sceptical now of Irish political influence now that the UN is flooding Ireland and Europe with unvetted illegal benefit migrants. Only recently, our national broadcaster tried to insist that the first Irish were black. Now if ye complain about too many foreigners yer branded as far-right.

    • @gurglejug627
      @gurglejug627 2 місяці тому

      @@ivanhunter3907 IvanHunter - says it all - if you love Ukro-Nazis so much, go and live with them. They were the enemy of all that's decent in WW2 with torture excesses so stark that SS seasoned officers physically vomited and complained about them. They have done NOTHING for the West, for you of for me, as a nation - ZERO.
      And they can't for the next hundred years, even if they exist by next summer - they have wasted their men, their resources, their economy on pointless repression and hatred of ethnic Russians and what that brought them. Either way, shame on you for bringing this discussion into a fair and reasoned documentary.