Leftist Hasan Fans Confront Destiny On Campus
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- Destiny talks to students on campus and are confronted by Hasan fans who order him leave...
Date: 28 Apr, 2024
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00:00:00 Teaser / Intro
00:02:30 Destiny has a civil convo w/ Hasan fan
00:19:50 This blew Destiny's mind
00:28:57 Second student convo
00:43:45 Destiny gives stronger talking points vs Netanyahu
00:52:01 Hasan fan returns
01:08:07 Protestors give speech warning ppl against Destiny
01:12:28 Destiny talks to last student
01:20:18 Hasan fan returns to stop the interview
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Oh my god. This guy is literally using the "Dolchstoßlegende" for the USA. He's regurgitating actual national socialist talking points. That's hilarious! 😂😂😂
Also stop pretending you are bisexual. The only bisexual proof you have is Piker saying you were handsy when you were black out drunk. No one has ever met one of your gay lovers. You aren't gay so stop.
you should ask all 1 staters if they would offer a similar situation to black people and KKK
My high school alma mater was the fighting Orientals never really ever thought about it being racist
How was this comment posted 2 hours before the video
"I watched hasan reacting to it" - your average pro palestinian
I mean let's be honest if Hasan got in a big debate a lot of us would watch Destiny react to it instead of just watching the raw debate
@@CoolExcite i mean you're not exactly wrong
@@CoolExcite yea, this is totally true. It seems kinda hypocritical to knock him for that, despite the fact that we know Tiny actually watches full videos and Hasan is more a clip enjoyer.
damn what a sharp analysis.
almost as sharp as your sick peeky blinders haircut you have since you probably have wet dreams about tommy lmao
@@andrewadams530 that's the exact difference that matters lol - "i watched hasan reacting to it" means "I watched select clips of the interview, chosen in a specific way to push a narrative". Hasan reacting is literally what these kids claim Destiny will do with their interviews. I don't think I've seen him watch a full video of anything political that doesn't 100% agree with his side. Now, if it is just entertainment videos while he eats or goes on a walk - that's a different story. Sure, you can still get swayed by the reactor's opinion and not make your own but at least you see the full original content and can choose whether you agree with it or not.
It was not even close. The wind 100% won this conversation.
High/low pressure fronts stay winning
had to watch at 0.25x. the wind was spitting
KO by the wind
Windchads stay winning 😎
i was scared the first person he interviewed was going to get blown away by the wind
jesus fuck, the first dude he said he was a philosophy student for atleast some period of time, yet couldn't coherently lay out his positions
@@justwannabehappy6735 Cosmic skeptic is a good example of how I would expect a philosophy major to approach topics although that seems to be too high a standard
He had to leave Philosophy.
He is a "Study" major. I think he said, "Disabilities Studies".
You cant make it up.
Why tax payers have to pay these people is even more absurd.
@@bestdjaf7499he said sustainability studies
@@bestdjaf7499dummy
I think destiny is the only person on the internet I would trust to not have some hidden agenda if we were having a conversation and I knew little about the topic. Not even an exaggeration, he strictly adheres to the facts. And he also is aware of the kids lack of knowledge and tries not to make them feel dumb, which would automatically make them defensive and the convo is dead. I also appreciate him going back and critiqueing himself on how to be better.
"the cops told us to leave and that was totally unacceptable. Also, leave!"
56:14 accuses Steven of just trying to shutdown the conversation in a previous discussion he'd seen Hasan react to Steven having , 56:40 gets asked a question and instead of answering, instead tries to shut down the conversation.
@@btdtpro "Accuse the opposition of what you yourself are doing" is a surprisingly effective tactic, because most people can't believe anyone would be shameless enough to do it.
I hate that people refuse to just say “idk” sometimes. Bouncing aimlessly between the random buzz phrases is so cringe to watch.
It's intuitive that your certainty matches your actual knowledge on any given subject. Just saying "idk" when they have these unshakable positions makes them feel like they already got got
@@sixsideddeath5529THANK YOU for perfectly describing this!!!! 😂 i tend to struggle the other way- thinking I don’t know enough on a given subject, which may influence me to communicate uncertainty, which may influence the listener that I actually don’t know shit and may even be making shit up on the fly
@@CyberGirl1234 That’s a good thing. That means you’re self aware. Some people let their Dunning Kruger effect take over the argument.
wisest thing one can say.
@@sixsideddeath5529 I like the way you put that. I learned a long time ago that pretending to know something with someone who does know that thing - it becomes obvious very quickly that you’re BSing. Just say I don’t know and accept it, learn maybe.
“In America we don’t even admit that the knife is there.”
Bro where the fuck have you been for the last 30 years?
50% of the country won't, that's very true
conservatives and especially trumpers constantly love to spout the "racism is actually dead. Pull yourself up by the boot straps it's an even playing field now !!!" shit all the time.
Right?? Last 50 years lol
Complaining about America is most Americans favorite pastime
@@chancellorpalpatine7486 Thats because we think we are the only thing that exists. They think everywhere else is perfect and dont realize how cool, even with the flaws, the US is.
Imagine taking money from the poor working class, & giving millions to these people?
These are all LibArts students.
Why they are not working!?
Send them to clean public toilets for a week.
Aren't they Communists/Socialists?
"most of it" "I fell asleep half way through" "actually I watched Hasan react to it" lmao there we go
I liked how the first guy was like:
"I watched your debate with Norm. Well ... I watched half of it. And I fell asleep half-way through ... AND I didnt really watch it. I watched Hasan reacting to it.
But he completely crushed you on every point."
Like imagine reviewing a movie, but instead of watching the movie you just watch a reaction to it, butchering it, and then quit half way through, but then still give your take on the movie. Fking crazy.
Also, props to the second guy (Lonerbox fan) and the last guy (LilyPichu fan). Especially the last one did really good.
not to mention Hasan got through less than half of the debate, so this kid only caught about 1/6th of the debate at best (not including Hasan's commentary)
Tbf. That was kinda what I did with the last knight. I fell asleep half way thru it and woke up at the last 45 mins. Then watched a review. I still say that shit sucks. Specifically cause I fell asleep
@@stupidsimple272And by “Hasan’s commentary” I assume you mean Hasan’s chair.
@@XDarksoulX1129 soy hasan watcher vs based debate sleeper
And he didn't engage when confronted iirc lol
"I had a dream last night that I was getting tased" is the best argument I've ever heard. I'll use it for everything from now on.
Genius🎉
"My protest rights appeared in a dream" GIGACHAD
That was such a dramatic point. Dreaming of getting tased makes a person seem so weak. Like you got traumatized by that? The taser? Not even shot or anything, but tased. Tased in your dream.
I liked it too like damn we went from don't taze me bro to I dreamt of being tazed by the powerful people because I was fighting for LOVE
@@jijijijijiji44 Literally the definition of a beta male .. what a sad sack.
It is alarming that the protest leaders at this campus discourage open debate with someone with differing opinions. The purpose of sharing different ideals between two parties is to synthesize the information received and formulate a new opinion. These protest leaders want the people attending to remain in an Echo Chamber to keep their faulty logic coming to light.
When I heard the woman state that the participants speak for them as a collective, I laughed.
She did more harm to their cause than anyone who would have engaged in open debate by trying to keep the students from engaging in open discussion.
my thoughts exactly. she's trying to ostracize him for simply having an open discourse where both participants were being completely respectful of each other. if anything, she probably made him think less of that group. it's a super obvious and toxic echo chamber. luckily they're still pretty young, some of them will grow out of that radical mindset
@@DurpenHeimer Many people are like this at my university as well. However, I am lucky to have a great philosophy professor who encourages open discussion and sharing differing opinions. I firmly believe that academia should further emphasize and focus on the process of critical analysis.
I had a series of great history and social-studies teachers in my youth and in college, almost all of them with opposite political views to me. They all staunchly refused to interject their own opinions in any discourse in class and in fact loved to play devil's advocate in all of the debates they stoked in our classes.
This did so much to give me a good level of skepticism and self-analysis in my thinking, as well as a love of history.
There is no debate to be had you're either pro genocide and ethnic cleansing or not..
Destiny: posts full unedited conversation, never interrupts the other person, patiently listening and nodding along as they talk, asks simple straightforward questions as clearly as possible, sets viewers expectations that these are college kids so we can’t expect super in-depth scholarly conversation and they’re brave for talking to him.
Tankie regards: “hEs jUsT hErE tO mAkE uS lOoK bAD!!!!!!!!!”
Not to mention "cLiP cHiMpInG"
His entire channel is about making everyone but him look bad, what do you mean?
@@Alan-mr8lslook bad would imply clip chimping, talking over the opponent and cutting them off.
@@Alan-mr8lsdestiny didn't make them look bad , they did that to themselves
@@issac7787 His style of debate is not intended to enlighten himself nor others, it's to make ill-equipped people squirm. Let's not deny this reality.
The fact that the guy calling America racist and crying about racism called the entire Latin American population Mexicans just made me throw up a little
Yeah, I hate people like this either be a damm ignorant clown or dont.
The idea of the US being the most xenophobic is just so wrong the question becomes how do you even engage with someone so indoctrinated.
Priviledged white savior
Lmao, that line would not be out of place in the Office.
He did use the word latinX first though😂
24:41 "Latinx, Latino, I mean, uh, Mexican people."
He went from racist cringe to cringe racism. 😭
That moment seemed like a comedy bit. XD
They call water agua over there
@@ataridc south of the border they call it gusanx
The moment he started trying to generalize a hierarchy for racism, you knew he was repressing racism. He pretty much did the infamous "I'm not racist, but" trope.
Regarding the finkelstein debate:
"you just shut down the conversation"
"well, no for instance in the 1948 partition--"
"this conversation is over"
That kid said Mexicans were more discriminated against than anybody but black people? This history isn't even that old, he should know this... how about the Japanese people in America? And then how about the Native people in America? And even considering that, saying America is even close to one of the most racist/xenophobic nations is wildly uninformed.
Mexicans have faced 100x the discrimination that Japanese have, both quantitatively and quantitatively. The irony of you saying others don't know history.
I like how the first guy goes through the tier list of races the US is most racist to and doesn't once mention native americans, when literally his entire paradigm is about settler/colonialism regarding Palestine.
They're the "woke white people" black people have been annoyed by for literal decades, and they've managed to get worse than ever in the last 10 years. LOL. I just sit back and laugh at them. Like ya'll are really geeking. Then there are the far left white people that laugh at the goofy white woke people, while also fumbling into the same territory constantly (see Vaush). Its like you're literally watching bugs in the matrix. Its so stupid, and such a madtv skit, that its odd that its real.
That's because there's no online outrage about it right now. He forgot they exist because NPC mind focused on Palestine
Or he’s a nervous 19 year old and you both are perfect, I’m assuming?
Can someone explain how Isreal is in colonial expansion? Is it a colony of Britain? Is this a reference to the settlements in the West Bank? Don't people refer the entire state of Isreal and settlement or some sort of European colony?
@@IH-wf4zb well, obviously he's young and that's one of the problems. He's publicly campaigning for something he hasn't studied. So yeah, it's a high bar. If you're at a protest, and you don't even know how to defend your beliefs, that says a lot about the issue right there (and let's forget about this one example which was mostly just humorous and look at his conversation holistically - it was vacuous slogans that fed themselves over and over and over). Nowhere near a standard of knowledge one should require to be an actual activist for the cause! This is the issue!
This isn't a protest, it's socialization for the youth
Thank you Brett! I love it when people get it.
lol I didn't even think of this, this is absolutely what it feels like they don't care about an end result
Dude, that makes so much sense now that I think about it.
It's always like that. It's why Teens protest the most more then any other age. And why many don't really care what they're protesting for. It's an 'event', something to catch and partake in.
Whole point of universities is to have young people come with alternate points
Destiny rewinding a bit after he pauses is amazing. I love to make sure i hear everything, so yea, when he pauses alot it can be a little tiresome, but well worth it to hear the entire conversation.
Destiny, assuming you have a Nvidia GPU you gotta set up rtx voice/ broadcast for stuff like this asap...
It would be great for cutting out wind noise and making this type of audio clear and understanable for yourself and viewers.
It actually gives me such giggle seeing hasan heads operating in the wild lmao
You know what is even more funny is seeing a Tim Pool Head and Hasan Head Arguing in public. I saw it recently and it gave me a real good laugh
@@STOPTHECLOWNS581i honestly couldn't even tell you who is the favourite in that debate lmao has to be one of the worst debates of all time
@@STOPTHECLOWNS581 Just coz hes bald doesnt make him a Tim Pool Head smh.
@@Shadowofromefanatic I couldn't tell if he was bald because he had on a beanie
Did you catch that word "agit-prop"? Lmfao these babies embarrass themselves so often they started thinking people were doing it to them.
They treat Destiny like he's a wizard. Or a Jedi, except his power is debate, don't talk to him or your mind will be changed.
And in their minds, it makes perfect sense, because they kinda consider (probably not in a conscious level) that they can be "infected"by ideas. I mean, they get all their takes from "viral" videos or tweets...
@@AWESOM.Othey usually don't really care about democracy in their heads. They find public opinion and debate a pain, they just want to enact their will. They'd shut down democracy if it gave them an unsavory result and they had the power.
It's more so they are suspicious that he's acting in bad faith or something. It can also be a bit intimidating to be viewed on a platform of people who disagree with you. You only need to look at the comments of this video to see why.
@@vitulus_ The vast majority of students is against Destiny's views (as opponents will automatically be seen as Zionists). I don't think they are intimidated by the backlash they might receive. They are in a convenient and comfortable position.
WOLOLO
Second student rocking the highlights, with the man purse, black painted nails and super focused on saying Hamas/Netanyahu in a Middle Eastern accent going in and out of his regular american accent lmfao
Was that a middle eastern accent? It sounded spanish to me
@@WanderTheNomad lmao something weird was definitely going on with the accent switch up on "Hamas" "Netanyahu"
1:01:53 The Orthodox Jews that oppose Israel are a minority in their own communities, Naturei Karta and the Satmar sects are mostly found in Brooklyn and in the Town of Kiryas Joel, and even there while the general opinion of these communities are pretty against Zionism they are far from pro Palestine. They oppose Zionism because of religious reasons not moral ones. To try to paint orthodox Jews as part of pro Palestinian movements shows a lack of knowledge regarding this topic.
It was kinda sad to see the first kid in blue get propagandize in real time by the protestor echo chamber
lmao Destiny said that kid got exiled by the organizers and other people at 1:31:13
Of course it's a big girl they make up for not getting attention for being hot by being loud and obnoxious
23:22 I lost my mind when he said America is a very xenophobic nation. If this was my kid, I’d stop paying for his college.
@@ataridcNo need to go after her for her weight, its the sentiment of the group that destiny should not be talked to and she was honestly pretty polite and left after he said he was fine to be interviewed.
@@samuelc.7212 appreciate that😊
That girl: "Don't talk to Destiny, he'll actually ask questions and we're unable to answer"
I mean, is she wrong though? If you really care about the optics of your position and you’re going against a formidable debater on camera, it is safer to just not talk to them. I believe it is in the best interest of the public for people to freely discuss, but strategically speaking I don’t think she’s wrong
@@juanmejiagomez5514 I guess it's a double edged sword. On one hand, you don't risk being found out as someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. And on the other hand, it's suspicious that nobody's willing to have a conversation and that they're trying to silence other perspectives.
@@funkyshadethe main reason i’m so befuddled is destiny wasn’t even trying for gotchas, he was crystal clear with his intentions i think it’s okay to say “i don’t know why this is i should do more research” no?
@@freddyfazbearfromfnaf3669 To be fair they don't know that and even if he has the best of intentions you could have a slip up that would be very embarrassing to go viral as the moron protestor, plus you don't want to show your face to the Jewlumni. Plus their leftists even if they know who he is he has a terrible reputation, there's probably a sizable amount of them who think he's a fascist zionist.
Destiny doing the sneaky psychologist thing on the patient who is determined not to reveal too much
Today, Destiny lost a debate to wind
god damn August, you really couldn't throw some subtitles in for the windy parts lol?
“The order of racism” 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
the Oct 7 update really changed the idpol competitive meta this year
@@PixelPenguin77the Taiwan update is gonna be wiiild
@@randomlygeneratedorcname lmao true
@@randomlygeneratedorcname ur outta pocket lmfao
@@randomlygeneratedorcname racism meta shake up coming to I heard
I was an evangelical Christian and these guys seem more religious than I ever was
There is more faith in the "research papers" done in the last 20 fucking years than the entirety of the Abrahamic Religions, combined.
College activists are cultists, except they are even worse than religious fanatics because they believe they're the ones ACKTCHUALLY having independent thinking and rationality on their side.
Based
💯 these people remind me of my mom trying to justify her hate and bigotry of other groups because her religion. Growing up I hated every second and as soon as I was allowed to stay at home legally I did. Thankfully my mom respected that I no longer wanted to participate in religion. To me most organized religion is a cult. I think individual spirituality is the way to go. Because you are able to freely think and aren't influenced by group think and tribalism.
Especially Hassan fans. They are a cult for sure. They get into their little bubble online and refuse to watch any other viewpoints. That isn't just a Hassan problem though. It happens to alot of people unfortunately. Both the left and right. They get trapped in a certain group. Then the algorithms keep them trapped in that group.
That’s what I’m saying
If Destiny has the mental fortitude to, Id like to see more of these public conversations comparatively to the on-stage debates. great video and i commend Destiny's ability to shift his posture from defensiveness to understanding.
also the reflection to repeat questions back at others for clarity is right on the mark here 1:06:30
next time I hope we get better audio quality 🙏
“History didn’t begin on October 7th. Also the Israel-Palestine is actually really simple.” Goddamn off the jump he’s hitting every NPC talking point
As someone who loves learning about history that type of framing is so triggering. A conflict that has WW1, WW2, the cold war, islamism, antisemitism, British colonialism, and the Ottoman Empire's management of minorities (all incredibly complex subjects in their own rights) as footnotes necessary to form a foundational understanding of its background... is not gonna be summed up in a pithy phrase.
People of all ideologies, all beliefs, of good and evil intentions, love to use what amounts to historical trivia as a club to beat each other in the arena of demagoguery. History is so much more complicated and nuanced and the sick reality is that most people have no desire to wade through the uncomfortable realities of humanity that you inevitably find - especially when they challenge your own worldview. It makes me think of how you can bend objective science to your political will using disingenuous statistics; history is of course no more sacred and is even more prone to perversion because it is obviously more difficult to determine or establish a standard for objective truth.
I don't want to sound to sanctimonious here because I am obviously just as predisposed to that bias as anyone; it exists within every human being. The only way to combat it is to recognize it and fight against it, and that is merely the first step on the path to objective reasoning instead of masturbatory thinking.
Imagine being so deep on your echo chamber that you can't defend your position at a public protest you're organizing. Hope they grow up.
I know a 40-year-old who talks and acts just like these kids, so unfortunately, I don't think they will ever grow up.
They're up against a guy with thousands of hours of debate experience
@@seanmurphy2365a guy with thousands of hours of debate experience that is giving them the space to fully articulate themselves.
@seanmurphy2365 its not the first kid I'm talking about. Get deeper in the vid and kids refuse to engage.
@@seanmurphy2365 thousands of hours don't matter when it comes to debates if the other person is just correct, Vaush or Hasan had plenty of hours and debates in the past and both have recent examples of them getting proven wrong by someone who barely debates, just because the other person just had better points
I like how the first dude Destiny talked to came back later in full Hasan cuck mode to act like he knows anything.
Man. I walked away from their first conversation thinking he seemed intelligent and reasonable. So sad.
@@silverstorm1000how tf did u watch that first convo and think taht lmao
being calm doesn't mean you're intelligent. all he said was buzzwords and slogans with distracting lack of ability to build up to a coherent point or follow a simple question.
to me, it doesn't seem a very intellectual of him, and frankly disrespecting the university he's in if those are their standards for students.
he might be smart and intelligent, he definitly didn't show it in the first interview, and he proved he's not in the second one
@silverstorm1000 lol wut. He sounded regarded
Nice shoot. Gotta remember the wind sock for the mic tho
Your editor could've done much better audio processing on this before uploading it. That wind is still very loud and you could've used a combination of ai based wind/noise reduction and a high pass filter. This wouldn't take very long and would be a much more pleasant experience for the viewers. Also, while playing the videos back on stream, idk why you don't just use a high pass filter. Pretty sure you can even just add it in obs so it's not like it's complicated to add to your signal chain.
THIS! He needs to hire a better editor imho, this guy is a total half-ass.
that last kid was pretty chill, shame how he was chewed out for literally no reason, obsessive gatekeeping is always a great way to ensure your message is spread
This is not even just an American left issue, where people aligned with some of your opinions and plights will try to fight and ostracize you the moment you act reasonable, and don't do exactly what they want you to do or believe what they tell you to believe.
I see this a lot in France, where the left is bullying itself out of supporters and sending them to the far right by hi-jacking their movement for very specific polarizing topics at the cost of the original core plight of their movements. All the far right has to do to win these rejected people over is not be a dick to them, and maintain very unclear 2-faced messaging from which people will only retain the part they agreed with.
As other people said: if you're at a public protest, you should be able to defend your opinions relating to the topic of the protest. If not, then you shouldn't be there. If the organizers don't trust you to speak your mind, they're admitting to bringing in as many uninformed people as they could to bolster their numbers and give the illusion of a popular opinion despite it not being that clear or widespread, or even fragile if anyone tries to dig into it.
KGB's gunna gechya!
Yep classic fascist move by the protesters 😂
Can't risk people on their side who live in an echo chamber being exposed to someone of the opposite view point who actually knows what he's talking about.
@@spencerrichmond5845 Pardon my ignorance but are they not the anti fascists? It would be rather off if the anti fascists would act in a fascistic way,no?
"it's ancestorial land for Palestinians, but not for Jews who were there before them, I'm just going to arbitrary cut it off at that point where the people I like turned up"
Based
The Palestinians have Hebrew in them, and probably more than Ashkenazi. I am not anti-Israel existing, but saying the Jews were there first ignores common ancestry. Both sides have some territorial claims.
This is a bizarre comment as Palestinians aren't just “palestinian” they also share Hebrew ancestry, they are descendants of the original Jewish inhabitants, arguably even more so.
It really bugs me how modern lefties are so eager to break bread with ppl because they share one common interest. Feels like it has made the left very scattered and unfocused when you supposedly care about LGBT rights but will put your neck out for groups who don't even view those people as human. I feel like the left used to be so much more live and let live, we will oppose violence against you but as a general direction of peace and understanding to where were at now where it feels like zealotry.
@@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 Ashkenazis intermarried with Europeans. I don't think it's right to penalize ppl cos they didn't practice inbreeding. Let's also not forget how Arabs got Canaanite and Jewish DNA. Arab armies slaughtered every male that tried to resist the invasion then graped the women and girls.
38:07 'Sure there's a possibility that the Jews might get systematically massacred in that scenario...but I'm willing to take that chance"
You were very respectful to every student you spoke to.
It's a shame that several of them didn't reciprocate that.
I'm astonished to hear people describe the 1 state solution as the pragmatic solution, legitimately delusional
Step 1: Everyone needs to just get along
Step 2: World peace!
@@howdareyou41just have a non-apartheid state with no second class citizens bro 😎
@@jumpvelocity3953 so cringe when people trow out these buzzwords like they actually have a meaning. what i would recommend you do, are actually go and visit Israel, and you would seen for yourself, theres no apartheid in israel, nor any second class citizens, because everyone with Israeli passport have the same rights. you might as well claim the USA are an apartheid country because the mexican people don't have the same rights in US as the people with US passports have. it makes no sense at all.
@@goldeneagle256 those buzzwords don't work. You're being disingenuous when you mention apartheid and Israel, and don't include the West Bank
@@goldeneagle256 the US doesn't currently have violent settlers stealing land in Mexico. I would hope people would be against that, as they are against west bank settlers
The guy who didn’t watch the debate is telling you what you did in said debate LOL
It's fascinating that how they talk changes as soon as they realize that there are disagreements.
Destiny can you run the video next time through a AI noise filter so it removes wind noise?
Respect for the last guy actually trying to engage
Well he’s kinda a DGGer so of course he’s reasonable and based
@@CRWeaventure yeah but its still refreshing to see college student that is left leaning, but not hopelessly entombed in an echo chamber!
I think the first guy was pretty chill and good willed.
@@CRWeaventure first rule of the jewlumni: you do not talk about the jewlumni.
@@Alex_the_Dad ...did you watch the whole video? He's the one who has an arc
"Hey what's your favorite sandwich?"
The first guy Destiny talked to: "Well, there's a lot of history there and a lot of debate over whether or not a hotdog is a sandwich. I think sandwiches were invented around 1850 and obviously they were a great invention. But let's just talk about burgers for a second..."
sandwich history didn't start with the creation of hamburgers
@@OrionBlazefrom the ribeye to the tea!
Putin style answer
@@jwollheim underrated
Very interesting video. I did enjoy this type of content with just people on the street. Eye opening!
Love the STEM dude!
Who’d have thought these people would’ve tried booting destiny off campus, treating him like Walsh, Shapiro and co. Not even a right or left thing….fragile minds don’t like that you don’t agree with them on 100 percent of things.
But did you see Jan 6th?!!! What are we gonna do about the right????
Unfortunately seems like you could boil down a majority of American Politics now with this sentiment.
The left sets the status quo for opinions that need to be upheld across the board, and the right contradicts those opinions for the sake of being contrarian. Then everyone in the center is punished for actually trying to engage in the discussion.
I've said it for years now. The best thing that gen z could actually do for this country is abolish the two party system. It will probably never happen because there is too much money and power at stake for the people in charge. It's a nice thought though.
It's cuz of crap like this that these little shits deserve to get owned by Shapiro and Crowder. I don't care if these kids ain't got no experience at being master deBATERS or if their fefes get hurt by the facts and logic that conservative folks bring to their campuses. Destiny isn't even trying to get a reaction out of people like Crowder does for content and yet they still go after him anyways. The reason why people at Daily Wire and co. say that we need to stop caring about people's fefes is cuz they now think they can get people kicked out of public areas cuz they said something considered "offensive" by their narrow-minded world view.
isn't the point of campus to get exposed to different views? lmao
Honestly, we should have done something about this kind of attitude ten years ago when it started becoming more and more noticeable. People ignored it back that and believed these kids would grow up. Now the inmates run the asylums and they're running 'em into the ground.
I appreciate your work
when it comes to anti-liberals, be it Hasan fans or groypers, the belief in freedom of speech has always been "for me but not for thee"
Even if you're liberal and just don't agree with the way they are doing things.
So u shouldn't be at a public area because you don't bow down to their narrative and your presence offenses them. Right
by the same people calling everyone else a nazi btw
It's the ideology that sends people to gulags, what do you expect lol
@@lowserver2 Meanwhile they want to get rid of all jews.
actual fashees
Freedom of speech is when other's opinions align with mine
Sometimes I hate being a zoomer. This is why I don't talk politics with some of the people I know, most of my close friends are fine and we talk about stuff all the time. This is sad though. They are doing a public demonstration, and yet don't want public attention and interaction. So this was basically just a circle jerk. This shows that none of them are serious about this, it's all just performative virtue signaling. But I guess every generation was like this at some point.
True. It's a form of social acceptance for most of them. If I agree with what he's saying or what he's saying, maybe I will get some leftist pussy.
No, they loooooove public interaction. As long as it serves their narrative. And this is true for all grifting movements, left wing, right wing, boomer, zoomer... doesn't really matter
I have ran in to the same issue but usually "why do you think the ones you are opposing do what they do" is a decent wake up call.
I asked my pro palestinian friends "What if Sami people started bombing Helsinki. Would they support that?" and they got stunned.
(Sami are indigenous in Finland)
@@MrMango331 yes, hypotheticals always break people's minds. For hardcore zionists I usually ask if they'd be ok with a hypothetical massively oppressed minority coming to Israel, buying their land in order to create their own country and expelling Israeli citizens in the process. For muslims that advocate for the right of return, I ask them if they'd want the same for all jewish people that got expelled from majority muslim countries in the past 70 years (edit: which constitutes Israel's majority population nowadays if I'm not incorrect).
Don't worry every generation was like this, most just didn't get it caught on 4k uhd. I am sure if we went back to the anti war protests in the 1970s largely speaking people would have come off like this as well.
great stuff!
:-)
One of the reasons I began watching you was because of the very reason you say in here. I was looking for information and not just things that support one side or another, and you do that so much better than anyone online. You are curious about the real reason and not just the position that holds a line that you lean on. We can see the interest when something contradicts something that you thought was right and you are presented something that challenges that thought.
i guarantee none of these kids have the slightest clue what an NFT is
And they definitely don't know how to make them from a terminal
Well you're not just gonna find a whole bunch of technologists in the wild silly!
@@alexanderwatters6556 you're proof that destiny gained alot of new viewers recently
I mean, could you even tell me what a JDAM is?
@@kc_h7hlmao spot on
Bro, that dude that listed the ‘racism hierarchy’ would be terrified in South Africa, Vietnam or Japan, they put the hate in racism.
and didn't even mention native americans.
Hey that's not fair I got very respectful stares from everyone in Japan.
I am South African and yeah genuine racism is overwhelming terrifying and quite common place outside of major hubs.
@@sashbanditLove your pfp!
@brosef5033 thank ya kindly~
If the camera person had headphones and an app, they'd be able to hear the wind and block it out accordingly. Liked the idea, and approach, btw. It's interesting to see the exchange with regular people...that's who us regular people have to debate, so... occasionally
Perhaps purchase a windscreen for the mic? You can pick one up for a couple of $
*Hasan, strung upside down overseeing west Hollywood while a boat full of Palestinians and a boat full of Israelis are deciding whether or not to detonate each others boat (neither are in danger if they do nothing)*
Hasan: you and I, Destiny... we're destined to do this forever. All they need is one. Little. Push.
Destiny: They're not like you! They aren't spiteful reactionaries!
Hasan: This is what happens when an unchecked source meets a grounded argument...
Well...
This was good.
Thanks for the mini movie in my head.
You're a good friend
Hasan: I’m like a rabid dog, just chasing whatever opinion is most “America bad” , I don’t care about consistency or the truth.
This reads like a greentext. I love it
And then Vaush shows up.
Is this the Dark Knight?
Destiny raised such a good point. The whole purpose of a protest is to express your voice. They should be using any opportunity to get their point across, especially to the other side.
Which points to a broader function of "protests" : feeling powerful, and tribal gatherings make us humans feel powerful. But tribes have to be held together in part by fear of expulsion from the group: "Don't talk to him, he's not one of us."
Is it possible to have one of these dialogue conversations on a campus about debating in general?
I don't get why people get so mad at you. I was a conservative who went to college and then became a Lefty, but quickly realized how insane it was, and I've now become a centrist moderate. I think you're doing amazing stuff (and I used to be a huge SC2 fan). Keep it up Destiny! Keep discussing with Liberals and Conservatives.
Son of liberals who’s become a conservative… but who sees a lot of problems with Republicans and Democrats… and who can poke holes in conservative, liberal, and libertarian ideology. I can do that because I’ve learned that issues are complicated and humans are messy.
Destiny gets his interviews censored by lefty winds
54:52 bro I HATE when they respond “how many books have you written tho”, like 1) you don’t need to write books in order to be knowledgeable about a subject. 2) writing books about a subject does not automatically mean you’re an expert in the subject
You should really get a DJI pocket 3 creator combo for these types of things. Pricey but comes with a good mic and a great video camera that films up to 4k 60
I lost it when he started explaining the racism tier list. How did Destiny manage to hold back his laughter during this part? lmao.
And I love how when he started doing the ranking Destiny tried to save him and talk about which country’s are less racist than America, but then the college kid was like “no the world needs to hear me poorly quote Malcom X.” My god.
Fr looool
Nah, gotta know your meta. You're just mad you're stuck in bronze in competitive idpol.
The layers of oppression
A blonde white duder explaining a racism tier list on a college campus while talking about how sad he is about a conflict he’s got superficial knowledge about is not only ironic, BUT I unironically love it
Kid was willing to actually chat, and I was absolutely one of those guys in college, politically.
Idk. Tiny is good at this, and I appreciate his “college kids are allowed to be kinda goofy with their beliefs” understanding. Steve was a fucking Ron Paul libertarian when he was their age ffs
He isnt a kid.
Native American didn't even make his top 4 that's wild considering there view point is Palestinians had their land taken from them and he's in Texas where natives are still marginalized.
Native American mains have been struggling for a while now... Competitive idpol needs to address this on their next patch update.
Facts
Yep. And in fact Jews are the natives who had their land stolen. And then took it back.
Jews got kicked out of ME and told to go to Europe. Then in Europe they were told to go home. So they went home and now they're being told to go back to Europe.
But Jews just like to wander I guess
@@PixelPenguin77as soon as you try to say America annihilated the native Americans for no reason, people will immediately say they deserved it for existing. It’s a losing argument most of the time, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth arguing
Marginalized lmao. Please just stop.
There's probably some program or ai or even tinkering with an equalizer, in order to reduce the wind noise and boost the voices
Well, Palestine really is fucked if these are the people advocating on their behalf.
I think they bigger things to worry about
They have no real impact on the issue, negative or positive
"Normal college student" "i has a dream last night that I was tazed" 😂😂😂
LOL &WTF?!!??? Didn't momma say "Some things better left unsaid"?
Oppress me daddy!
Some dreams get weird.
To be fair he was at a protest that had a lot of arrests and police intervention.
the blonde hair kid def spams YEP in hasans chat
YEP
YEP
YEP
Probably a good idea to work on the audio in future projects like this.
WARNING: THIS MAN HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN US. KEEP AWAY AT ALL COSTS. DO NOT ENGAGE AND BE READY TO CALL THE POLICE
"They were arrested and claimed they did nothing wrong". Of course they did nothing wrong. And even if they did - it wasn't a big deal. And even if it was, ...
😂🤣
But you're not understanding the broader picture, what are we gonna do about the right? They are the REAL problem.
W
holy true
can someone explain the joke to my pea brain?
You can easily tell what side is in the wrong every single time when one side is telling others not to engage. Like if a grifter comes on campus, who is very well known for being objectively bad faith, and just looking for screaming matches or something that’s one thing. But even if you disagree with destiny, there’s no doubting that he’s one of the best Faith actors on the Internet. So if you’re not wanting to engage with someone like him, it’s not because you don’t think they’re serious it’s because you’re afraid of what they have to say, and that your beliefs are not strong enough to stand up against them, which is quite telling.
"who is very well known for being objectively bad faith"
You have to understand that most of these kids entire understanding of Destiny is from carefully chosen short clips that are watched by Hasan or posted in their Twitter/Reddit bubble. So in some sense, from inside their bubble he is pretty much ONLY known for being "bad faith". Note how many people get an entirely different perspective on Destiny the first time they actually watch even just ONE long-form video of his. Most people who hate him or think of him as a hardcore bad faith actor are in some sense being "reasonable" based on what they have actually seen, but all they have ever been exposed to is intentionally misleading propaganda.
Vids like this make me so glad I prioritized most things over politics while I was in college. Like I could listen to the opinions of a “literally who”, or in the same amount of time eat dinner & finish an essay. Choice was easy
“We’ve got, um, y’know, L-LatinX… Latino… L-L-Lat- uhhh… just… Mexican people.”
Bro almost short circuited when his brain was trying to navigate the latest & greatest most woke term for Mexicans 😂
The last guy should've accused the guy who interrupted them of racism. "What, im not allowed to speak all of us, except you are?! Is it because I'm brown and you're white?!"
I've grown old enough to find college activists insufferable.
I found them insufferable when I was still in college
@@roymarshall_ Never the so-called 'normal' guys.
Do you also hate the vietnam, iraq, tiannamen square and civil rights activists too? Careful, your mask is slipping. History has always vindicated student protests, this will be no different.
@@googane7755 I don't hate protesters in general, there are many good reasons to protest, so no, I don't hate any of those you mentioned. The reason is that those people actually faced real life hardships and really had something to fight for. College activism is 95% performative virtue signaling bullshit from wealthy spoiled kids who really want to feel important.
So have I. I think, however, they got even worse over the years.
I go to college here and I've been conflicted watching the protests. On one hand, it is good to see people stand up against what I really do believe is a terrible thing happening in Gaza. But when I watch the protests, and the chants, and awkward speeches followed by semi-smug smiles, it's hard not to think that.. it's not so much standing up for what's right that draws them so much as the chants themselves, and the speeches, and the opportunity to be seen. And it makes me worry, because you have to wonder that if someone else had a catchy enough chant, or a compelling enough speech, or the right community.. if they wouldn't be just as likely to back that cause instead, regardless of it's morality
But then also as I stood there inwardly cringing at these young white kids in their faux arabic garb yelling some silly chants (and those awkward grins after....) a muslim friend of mine happened to come up and remarked how encouraging it was to her to see so many non-muslim people at the protest. So it's conflicting.
The problem is.. they're so young and raw and bad at conveying their message that they almost do a disservice to their own cause. But then that's been the left for the last several decades.. we just never have a coherent message or coherent messengers..
bruh, please buy some lav mics if you're going to do interviews like this haha it's crazy to me that you guys can't work at a higher production quality.
This kid bringing up the concept of 'orientalism'(an academic term about the notions and preconceptions Europeans had about all asian cultures as exotic and odd and having certain mindsets(was this Said or someone else?)) to immediately blabbering about how he used to call east Asian people oriental until his friend told him it's a slur is wild.
Yes Said formulated the theory around the critique of orientalism.
While at the same time fetishizing arab culture.
@@TheBlinky81 Orientalism can describe many things. For the most part it is also "an" (outdated) academic discipline. You are correct, Said formulated a critic of Orientalism- in a book by the same name to describe this whole phenomenon and its wobbly nature - and wrote about previous academic practice vis a vis the "Orient". So 18th-20th century researchers from Europe traveling the world and looking from an inherent system of power asymmetry onto Arabic culture, India and East Asia etc. It contains also other aspects such as artistic representations of the oriental other in the east... It is a very influential thesis albeit many scholars today made some corrections and it is especially difficult at times how much Said is a full application of the theory of Foucault to the subject. Big issue is for example that, broadly speaking, all scholars dealing with this places are orientalists to some extent, which would mean that it is basically impossible to be taken serious as a researcher from one of the countries that used to be colonial powers on other places on earth. Some of those left-winged culture warriors have taken up this term, often without think about the consequences. If you study India for example you will read Said in class and notice you are the thing he critics. This is an issue we can not escape and deal with in class at least some time usually. :P
These are people who, in a proper education system, simply would never have been admitted.
Destiny was incredibly considerate of these protestors (almost too much so), which only made their shunning and refusal to speak more unreasonable by comparison.
Yeah. At first you want him to go all in on them, but you realize these are just college kids and suddenly his response to them seems more reasonable.
The latter two college students were being far more good faith than the first guy who couldn't mind his own damn business.
Just wanna call out that this was such insanely good content... didn't even realize an hour 30 flew by
1:10:15 you can see how worried that kid looks, and how unsure he was of the handshake, it's worrying to me how the few people that want to have legit conversations are worried about going outside the echo chamber, I'm probably reading into this too much, but it seems they're keeping their bubble intact by threatening to remove anyone, inside or outside the group, for even considering challenging their opinions, it really seems like brainwashing via social pressure.
I love how he acted cordial and normal at the start but once other people started chirping up suddenly he gained his confidence and finally exposed himself as a Hasanabi head.
That first guy going from spewing various buzzwords and making random points instead of countering light pushback - to completely shutting down the conversation when getting pushback on something he couldn't comprehend was infuriating to watch...
What is even more infuriating is that he was interfering with and trying to shut down the productive conversations Destiny had with the OTHER students who were at least genuine sounding and trying to argue in good faith.
actual big props to destiny to be able to stay calm, like goddam the passive aggresivness thinking he knows all and whataboutisim? oml bruh jesus he couldnt even answer but destiny did say he is young and we shouldnt hate because it doesnt help and its very hard espically when its so easy behind a screen guys
This is gold. I think this incredible and legitimately getting to the root of the problem of the divide on this topic and that it can run off into making changes in people.
Love how people think they can police others, in public areas, with a warped moral high-ground. Fucking creepy and bizarre.
I completely agree that so many people who feel so strongly about the conflict don't know the finer details of the matter. They just have a broad perspective.
When you have no foundation for right/wrong it eventually leads to this. You become the center of reality, you become God and determine right and wrong.
I know right. The pro-Israel protestors are insane@!
@@JobVanDam You are the center of reality, at least as you perceive it. The trick is to recognize that if you are the center of your world, so is everyone else of theirs.
@@JobVanDam but whatever you do, don't make God (or a god) the source of right or wrong. You'll just listen to other people who tell you what is right or wrong
that’s what happens to anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders at left wing protests. And it’s been that way for a long time
Honestly respect for those kids. It takes someone brave to go in front of the camera. And the part where he "admits" of seeing your debates with Finkelstein through Hasan reaction was pretty funny.
That debate was hilarious destiny got bodied so hard
@@pregerzoreo4886 I mean he barely replied ahah
@@sammyboy8553 wym?
I hope you watched the freedom toons video . That you made an appearance on. !!!
You should get a mic for these
America is one of the least racist countries around, just talking to people around the world will clue you in that its sweet round here. People stereotype America for a lot of things, racism isn’t one of them
leftists must pretend its a big issue, if not they lose their power
Most people who still call America a racist country clearly haven't been outside of the US much. And if they have, they went to somewhere in western Europe. Racism is the norm in most of the world. But to be fair, it's not always super malicious racism, as in outright hatred. They just see you as an outsider and are naturally going to be a little skeptical of you at first.
I'm someone of asian descent and I've basically never experienced racism here until one instance very recently (some bitter, crazy old black man yelling at my mom, accusing her of being a racist when he and his grandkid basically stole stuff in front of our face. Also verbally harassed my younger brother, who was just helping out at the store).
In another part of the world, that one bad experience could turn into one that creates racism, but as an american I know plenty of black guys of moral character and values. It's literally the most remote areas where you'd find any substantial amount of racism, and we all know how people in the US feel about them lol
@@Tehz1359 Brother
Yeah we pretty racist here in India
I feel like my iPhone has way better wind filtering than this, was it just way windier than it looks?
I failed to catch, what campus was this on?
the fact hasan has fans is disturbing
Destiny has cornered the liberal zionist audience
Hasan’s video was like 2 hours total, with his commentary. He watched less than 2 hours of the 5 hour debate, I guess that doesn’t include the Hasanabi clip channels though, maybe he watched those
I watched most of it, there is around 11hrs or so of reaction to the lex debate. Tried to divest my content consumption to see disagreements regarding the debate so I don't get sucked into an echo chamber. Hasan demonstrated a larger knowledge base than lead to believe by destiny and dgg as a whole, however a lot of his points were misguided and showed a lack of understanding of the point or question asked in the debate. Happy to write out an example or two if asked. But I would weakly recommend browsing it to see what his response was. Not much was substantial on hasans end but worth seeing that 'doesn't know nothing' isn't entirely true, even if that knowledge is misguided and doesn't understand that information well
@@thepolitician247Well, I guess that's better than expected? Because his only debate with a pro-Israeli is a 16-year-old and clips/tweets of an extreme pro-Israeli, it's hard for me to actually quantify Hasan's knowledge on the topic
I would like some examples, if you don't mind.
Bro thats a high standard, the fact he even did 2 hours is good.
@@thepolitician247 I know Hasan knows a lot about the situation, I just know he hates Destiny 😂 I wasn’t sure how charitable he was towards Destiny in the debate