A CPU From AMD...AND Intel?! (UCIe Explained)

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  • @techquickie
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    •  2 роки тому +6

      Please do a techquickie of quantum computing! It’s the future!

    • @JTL1776
      @JTL1776 2 роки тому +1

      #DREAM
      THREADRIPPER PRO with INTELS P and E core style.

    • @frozenturbo8623
      @frozenturbo8623 2 роки тому

      oh no

    • @DrakyHRT
      @DrakyHRT 2 роки тому +2

      @ That's way too distant in the future.

    • @peters.7428
      @peters.7428 2 роки тому

      You forgot about Mediatek and it's phone chips.

  • @finally5458
    @finally5458 2 роки тому +2959

    For those who are confused, UCIe is actually a real thing

  • @asicdathens
    @asicdathens 2 роки тому +300

    In the old days Intel and AMD were pals. The manual for the 8086 CPU (from Intel) states that additional information can be also obtained by Advanced Micro Devices Inc.

    • @Dreams_Of_Lavender
      @Dreams_Of_Lavender 2 роки тому +42

      I don't know about pals. IBM required Intel to license their technology out so they could have more than one source for the chips used in the PC. So AMD was one of those partners.
      After the 80286, Intel basically said "screw you, deal's off" and AMD basically had to reverse engineer the 386, but it's release was delayed for a LONG time, basically right before the original Pentium came out, because Intel kept them tied up in court.
      They released their Am386 and reverse engineered and released the Am486 family, now with legal approval obtained from the court system, until the AMD K5 came out to compete with the Pentium MMX.

    • @SviatoslavDamaschin
      @SviatoslavDamaschin 2 роки тому +9

      @@Dreams_Of_Lavender Wasn't the AMD K6 the Pentium MMX killer? The K5 was competing with Pentium 100/133

    • @Dreams_Of_Lavender
      @Dreams_Of_Lavender 2 роки тому +12

      @@SviatoslavDamaschin Ah, you might be right. Double checking now, the K5 and the Pentium MMX came out in the same year.

    • @liboud22
      @liboud22 2 роки тому +5

      @@SviatoslavDamaschin AMD pitted K6 against P2, not Pentium MMX/Pro. AMD tried to advertise it as basically a Pentium 2, but at lower price. However, the market perception basically became that it was a chip for poor people, who couldn't afford to buy a P2, bought. It did sell pretty well, and caused Intel plenty of worry though. And that was just the beginning of worries for intel, as it kept getting worse for them and AMD just kept getting better and better...

    • @SviatoslavDamaschin
      @SviatoslavDamaschin 2 роки тому

      @@liboud22 Good to know, I though that it was competing with MMX series cuz k5 was lacking those instructions

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 2 роки тому +162

    I already own a cpu by Intel and AMD.
    It's an 8Mhz 80186 from 1978, designed by AMD and manufactured by Intel.
    True story.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 роки тому +18

      Did you get those backwards? Its intel designed though AMD did second source them

    • @horacegentleman3296
      @horacegentleman3296 2 роки тому +3

      @@mycosys i think you're right, pretty sure i have one new in the package somewhere.

    • @beanman6684
      @beanman6684 2 роки тому +16

      Fun fact that were made at $.50 and sold at $700 for 1399x profit

    • @marcellachine5718
      @marcellachine5718 2 роки тому +3

      @@mycosys your absolutely correct. At the request of IBM.

    • @horacegentleman3296
      @horacegentleman3296 2 роки тому +6

      @@beanman6684 Jesus Christ

  • @AhmadSattout97
    @AhmadSattout97 2 роки тому +165

    UCIe, exists
    Apple : Introducing, the ACIe, the all new, never seen before architecture

  • @Prophes0r
    @Prophes0r 2 роки тому +83

    When using chiplets, it is no longer a SoC (System on Chip).
    It would then be a SoM (System on Module) or SoP (System on Package)

    • @crunchynetto6979
      @crunchynetto6979 2 роки тому +9

      is it a bit like System of A Down?

    • @JohnPaulBuce
      @JohnPaulBuce 2 роки тому

      @@crunchynetto6979 System on Table

    • @olivetho
      @olivetho Рік тому

      It would likely just get rebranded to "SoC (System on Chiplets)" because that acronym is already ubiquitous.

    • @Prophes0r
      @Prophes0r Рік тому

      @@olivetho These aren't my definitions. This is industry standard.
      If it is all using the same lithography process for the CPU, RAM, and IO, it is a SoC.
      If it doesn't, but it is still all on the same module (usually with high-speed interconnects) it is a SoM.

    • @GeekProdigyGuy
      @GeekProdigyGuy Рік тому

      ​@@Prophes0rSoM would refer to a PCB rather than the same chip. although terms like these are not industry "standard" the same way that UCIe itself is...

  • @mcpr5971
    @mcpr5971 2 роки тому +138

    0:41 "security enclave from Microsoft" (checks date: Apr-1)

    • @lobes97060
      @lobes97060 2 роки тому +8

      Even he laughed a little at that one!

    • @JohnDoe-xp4iy
      @JohnDoe-xp4iy 2 роки тому +1

      Lmfao

    • @cnr_0778
      @cnr_0778 2 роки тому +10

      lmao
      but yeah... i wouldn't trust Microsoft anywhere near my cybersecurity...

    • @cruelcrow7367
      @cruelcrow7367 2 роки тому +5

      @@cnr_0778 microsoft pluton is a thing

    • @user-xz1ur8us5p
      @user-xz1ur8us5p 2 роки тому +2

      @@cruelcrow7367 and it required an internet connection for the pluton chip to ping (and maybe maintain a connection to) Microsoft servers for "security"

  • @surg0083
    @surg0083 2 роки тому +421

    I thought this was an April fools joke, because I never thought intel and amd would work together.

    • @AnnHiroCh
      @AnnHiroCh 2 роки тому +34

      They did like 20+ years ago

    • @rockytom5889
      @rockytom5889 2 роки тому +14

      @@AnnHiroCh
      Yeah but back then nvidia was making chipsets and cyrix was still alive.

    • @complimentaryrandomnessinc3137
      @complimentaryrandomnessinc3137 2 роки тому +3

      @@AnnHiroCh And like mentioned in the video they did an intel cpu with AMD vega graphics a few years ago

    • @PPSzB
      @PPSzB 2 роки тому +13

      The funniest part is that both AMD and Intel need eachother to not become monopolist

    • @GSBarlev
      @GSBarlev 2 роки тому +15

      The existence of Kaby Lake G (Intel CPU with Vega graphics) was the biggest shocker of this episode.

  • @zarnolite
    @zarnolite 2 роки тому +366

    Wouldn't it be more accurate to call the example at 0:33 a system in package? Chip typically refers to an individual integrated circuit (at least in my corner of the industry), but in this case you've got multiple chips (chiplets) packaged on a common interposer.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 роки тому +16

      or system on substrate

    • @beanman6684
      @beanman6684 2 роки тому +10

      @@mycosys SOS vs SOP. dunno which I like more

    • @talkysassis
      @talkysassis 2 роки тому +29

      Put the substrate upside down and call it system under substrate or SUS

    • @bonnome2
      @bonnome2 2 роки тому +28

      The correct name is Multi-chip module (MCM).
      System in a package is usually when you take a couple of the markets dies and connect them internally with wires or solder bumps. Instead of connecting them through a pcb.
      This is more integrated and acts like a single chip

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 2 роки тому +7

      System on a container. Solved your issue while still calling an SoC

  • @Fermi_Consistency
    @Fermi_Consistency 2 роки тому +161

    UCIe is going to be absolutely fantastic. I cannot wait for this to become an industry standard. the possibilities from hobbyist to professional are absolutely astounding.

    • @crunchynetto6979
      @crunchynetto6979 2 роки тому +3

      absolutely fantastic?
      absolutely astounding?
      dont cheer yet, let them prove it first that they can make it work together as good as the consumer can imagine.…

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 2 роки тому +1

      I honestly don't expect to see any hobbyist/enthusiast platforms take advantage of this. Because you still need a socket, chipset and mainboard platform which will play ball with a multi chip module someone needs to order a substantial production run of. There are massive roadblocks at the BIOS and driver level.
      But we might see weird server and industrial platforms which will only boot Linux. And odds are, the CPU MCM will be soldered in and not replaceable since it's all going to be so custom.

    • @Fermi_Consistency
      @Fermi_Consistency 2 роки тому +1

      @@SianaGearz the whole idea is that there "shluld" be more variety for everyone to use

  • @carloregalado7751
    @carloregalado7751 2 роки тому +75

    it's nice to know that Tony Sopranos son has got out of the Mafia.

    • @guitarPTH
      @guitarPTH 2 роки тому +1

      He doesn’t look like AJ and AJ wasn’t even in the mafia

  • @Ogk10
    @Ogk10 2 роки тому +165

    Intel did it again. Found a way to keep pushing 14nm.

    • @marcox4358
      @marcox4358 2 роки тому +2

      if it works, why fix it? xdd have a nice day ya all hahaha

    • @Grason20
      @Grason20 2 роки тому +3

      They already abandoned 14nm... But I'm sure they will keep pushing their intel 7 :)

    • @frozenturbo8623
      @frozenturbo8623 2 роки тому +1

      Sadly, 12th gen is 10nm.

    • @ukeyaoitrash2618
      @ukeyaoitrash2618 2 роки тому

      whats tthe problem?

    • @ukeyaoitrash2618
      @ukeyaoitrash2618 2 роки тому

      @Ayaan K why?

  • @curvingfyre6810
    @curvingfyre6810 2 роки тому +125

    I"m lowkey excited for this, assuming we can prevent bait and switch components.

    • @phoby4584
      @phoby4584 2 роки тому +1

      Switch Chiplets ? these rich-fuck-ass CEOs would never let you

    • @Ignisami
      @Ignisami 2 роки тому +27

      @@phoby4584 that’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying ‘bait-and-switch components’. Like a while back when you had two extremely similar series of SSD’s, but one series was quite a bit faster than the other, and the primary observable difference was in the serial number.

    • @JorgetePanete
      @JorgetePanete 2 роки тому

      I'm*

    • @danielgeorgianni1687
      @danielgeorgianni1687 2 роки тому +1

      "Lowkey" is not announcing it..... 🤣

    • @RobertPearsonJr
      @RobertPearsonJr 2 роки тому

      Imagine the horrible markup and obvious lack of market competition is what I'm thinking. The only reason big players are behind this would be to make more money.

  • @reddcube
    @reddcube 2 роки тому +44

    I wonder if Apple and NVIDIA will quietly use the UCIe specifications. They will have to use die-to-die interconnects at some point in the future. Might as well use the spec instead of wasting engineering time. Especially since Apple is obsessed with thinner and more power saving designs.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 2 роки тому +7

      It will be our job as Internet Denizens to point and laugh when it inevitably comes to light (and then forgetting/losing interest as the next big thing happens).

    • @Raja995mh33
      @Raja995mh33 2 роки тому +1

      Apple has proven for a while not that they're just not obsessed with thinner designs. But power saving - yes. In fact every company should start focusing more on efficiency like Apple does.
      But I highly doubt that Apple will ever use this because they're doing literally the opposite. Instead of relying on other companies, they want to do everything themselves. So much so that they even develop their own modems so that they don't have to use those from Qualcomm anymore.
      There's just no way that Apple will go back and use like modems from Qualcomm, a GPU from AMD or whatever.

    • @Raja995mh33
      @Raja995mh33 2 роки тому +2

      @@alexthenr1019 that's absolute bullshit dude. TSMC is literally nothing but a PRODUCER. Apple is developing their own silicon. TSMC only produces it.
      Apples processors are not developed by TSMC.

    • @UshankaMaster
      @UshankaMaster 2 роки тому +3

      @@Raja995mh33 Apple refuses to support Vulkan , another good example I think...

    • @GeekProdigyGuy
      @GeekProdigyGuy Рік тому

      ​@@Raja995mh33apple has designed their own hardware in the past and switched back to sourcing externally, before they went back again to first-party starting with the M1... fact is that apple is a company like any other. If and when other companies can make better chips for cheaper, apple won't waste resources on developing their own.

  • @TuxikCE
    @TuxikCE 2 роки тому +313

    Finally the technologies come together.

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      @virchandrakumar8186 2 роки тому +2

      Creating babies?

    • @jiekendinner
      @jiekendinner 2 роки тому +5

      shall collect all infinity chiplets

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      @sigmacrow6783 2 роки тому

      @@jiekendinner One snap and all the scalpers and miners vanish.

    • @aurone779
      @aurone779 2 роки тому

      Future GPU's coming at MSRPs👇🏻
      ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.html

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    @davisonsmart5027 2 роки тому +37

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    I pray everyone reading this becomes successful.

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      @devionchapman3404 2 роки тому +1

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      Investing in crypto is very cool, especially with the current rise in the market.

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      @mariatoby79 2 роки тому +1

      I really don't know why people still remain poor out of ignorance.

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  • @EdwardChan.999
    @EdwardChan.999 2 роки тому +53

    I would like to see Nvidia integrated graphics in an Intel CPU!

    • @18earendil
      @18earendil 2 роки тому +13

      Nvidia and Apple are the only ones not participating on the project.

    • @Alucard-gt1zf
      @Alucard-gt1zf 2 роки тому +20

      @@18earendil doesn't matter much because if ucie is really the breakthrough that it claims to be nvidia and apple will have to join the standard at some point

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 2 роки тому +7

      @@18earendil of course Apple would do that.

    • @Insky_
      @Insky_ 2 роки тому +12

      @@Gatorade69 ...and other lies we tell ourselves before sleep

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 2 роки тому +1

      @@Insky_ Oh no. Boo hoo.

  • @timemast3r
    @timemast3r 2 роки тому +22

    When the GPU shortage is “over” could we see CPU prices falling such as the Athlon 3000G being it’s MSRP $50 instead of $100-$150?

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 роки тому +1

      The whole thing sucks, even before the pandemic, it was hard to get GPUs at reasonable prices due to the crypto mining and scalping. Then we had the chip shortage and who knows what the next issue is going to be, but the price of GPUs really needs to come down.

  • @xplodingmojo2087
    @xplodingmojo2087 2 роки тому +14

    Great day to release this news AMD & Intel

  • @John7No
    @John7No 2 роки тому +22

    the theory is great
    the execution and how well these players will behave, that would be the key to success

  • @KnotStoopid
    @KnotStoopid 2 роки тому +11

    How can LTT pay the bills with only ONE ad slot in this video!?!?!?!?

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      @insanitysreign6195 2 роки тому +4

      They don't need it after their last video XD

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  • @JTCF
    @JTCF 2 роки тому +3

    Wow, I am amazed. This is the best explanation with what real advantages it gives, thank you!

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  • @H4KnSL4K
    @H4KnSL4K 2 роки тому +1

    One of your best done Techquickie vids - Thanks!

  • @inconnudeuxmille1752
    @inconnudeuxmille1752 2 роки тому +1

    I love the concept. You made my day with this techquickie

  • @little-wytch
    @little-wytch 2 роки тому +4

    I would love to see this tech expanded and combined with other ideas, like the big-little design, but with different architectures as options as well. So you could have all those different specialized chiplets... but also have X-Performance cores of ryzen, and X-Efficiency cores but also some ARM cores for running more mobile stuff, and please add some RISC-V cores in there too.

  • @jasongooden917
    @jasongooden917 2 роки тому +76

    Imagine ordering custom CPUs in the future.
    I’ll take these cores from AMD, These transistors from Intel, these nodes from ARM, some Cuda cores from
    Nvidia and while you’re at it, an bit of Apple on the side.

    • @HBProductions.
      @HBProductions. 2 роки тому +9

      That would be sweet to say the least. Modular cpu's that can be tailored by the consumer. Now let's just weed out cheap/pirate manufacturing. You know China is gonna have a say in all of this.

    • @ugh2668
      @ugh2668 2 роки тому +1

      Won't it be risky to have several expensive dies all in 1 chip? like what if the chip fails and damages the dies... like the old saying "don't put all your eggs in 1 basket"?

    • @HBProductions.
      @HBProductions. 2 роки тому

      @@ugh2668 perhaps, it really depends on the actual design and how they could be protected in the event of such disaster. If they went truly modular then they could swappable chip components. If they're soldered in place then it's a different story.

    • @lua8738
      @lua8738 2 роки тому +6

      I think this would also be excellent in preventing CPU shortages too. Not enough Intel cores in stock? Throw in a few more AMD ones.

    • @HBProductions.
      @HBProductions. 2 роки тому

      @@lua8738 I 2nd that. I'm just glad pc manufacturers didn't go with the design concept of the mobile industry in making all components soldered in. I love the upgrade factor in electronics.

  • @yettifpv4866
    @yettifpv4866 2 роки тому

    And this is how true progress happens. Glad to see tech companies willing to work together

  • @bigjoes.1545
    @bigjoes.1545 2 роки тому +1

    First time using the transcript function on mobile. Works well.

  • @robocop4050
    @robocop4050 2 роки тому +5

    "Instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater"💀

  • @redwingblackbird8306
    @redwingblackbird8306 2 роки тому +7

    Remember socket 7? What do you want, amd, intel, cyrix cpu?

  • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
    @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому

    Teamwork makes the dream work.
    It's always kind of beautiful to see multiple companies working together even if it is only for their own benefit basically.

  • @SeanColey
    @SeanColey 2 роки тому

    FUTURE EPISODE IDEAS:
    1) I'd like to see how additional GPU's operate when installed in a PC. Which one takes the load? Is it only the primary one? Is it the one the monitor is connected to that the app is running in? Etc. Comparisons on SLI vs unlinked multi-cards would be a great episode if not done already. If it was done, maybe a revisit would be nice.
    2) Connecting different devices using different LAN ports, direct connect devices, manually setting IP's, and similar topics would be nice to see.

  • @lucasfranke5161
    @lucasfranke5161 2 роки тому +4

    Oh, I thought it was just an April Fool's joke, but apparently that's legit

  • @micheals1992
    @micheals1992 2 роки тому +14

    I'd love you know what AMD and Intel could do together

    • @dennisfahey2379
      @dennisfahey2379 2 роки тому

      Not much really - once Intel gets its GPU (Arc) up to snuff. They are competitors on most fronts - have been since the 1980s. Intel has a much deeper portfolio (for example networking etc) but doesn't hype it nearly enough.

  • @aniksamiurrahman6365
    @aniksamiurrahman6365 2 роки тому +1

    This sounds significant. Seems like now we'll see a revival of many chip companies like that of early 2000. There might even be small companies that make custom chips from chiplets on specific customer order basis.

    • @turbo1gts
      @turbo1gts 2 роки тому

      Yes, in the 90s you could build a system with AMD, intel, Cyrix, IBM, Winchip/IDT, and a couple of others.

  • @TehKazlehoff
    @TehKazlehoff 2 роки тому

    TechQUICKie videos dont need an ad thats 20% of the video in the middle.

  • @6SoulHunter9
    @6SoulHunter9 2 роки тому +25

    I have read news about the chiplet interconnection standard during march. I am starting to think that the April's Fools of this channel is to publish a difficult to believe new on april's first, so people won't believe it xD

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter 2 роки тому +3

      They don't, the joke video is only on LTT

    • @6SoulHunter9
      @6SoulHunter9 2 роки тому

      @@Splarkszter Exactly, I think that joking in more than one channel would be overdoing it.

  • @JoshsBookishVoyage
    @JoshsBookishVoyage 2 роки тому +11

    LTT has posted two April fool joke videos (that I've seen). I wish this was clearly communicated as not a joke bc the different companies working together could very easily be a joke.

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    @darknetcs 2 роки тому +1

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    @ShooterQ 2 роки тому

    Best music ever featured in an LMG video.

  • @rehon101
    @rehon101 2 роки тому +3

    I would really love to see a video on how the Apple ultra fusion works

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      @tilapiadave3234 2 роки тому

      Apple SUX big time

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      @rehon101 2 роки тому

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      @tilapiadave3234 2 роки тому

      @@rehon101 Aplle is an overpriced POS that ONLY Apple CULT members see ANY value in

  • @ethankeller8678
    @ethankeller8678 2 роки тому +42

    When it comes to investing, we want our money to grow with the highest rates of return, and the lowest risk possible. While there are no shortcuts to getting rich, but there are smart ways to go about it.,

    • @jeremylee6142
      @jeremylee6142 2 роки тому +4

      The thing about been successful is working toward it and not going the other way round.

    • @johnnybaker7500
      @johnnybaker7500 2 роки тому +4

      You are right, to be a successful person in life require him or her of hard work and time....

    • @kokoettethomas1788
      @kokoettethomas1788 2 роки тому +2

      I keep wondering how people earn money in financial markets, i tried trading on my own made a huge loss and now I'm scared of investing more.😕..

    • @royscott3064
      @royscott3064 2 роки тому +1

      Investment is the key to achieving success with the current pandemic slowing down so many businesses now🔑🔑🔑

    • @bentleybraxton8531
      @bentleybraxton8531 2 роки тому

      I totally agree with you it has been an eye-opening experience for a lot of people....

  • @Virtokaii
    @Virtokaii 2 роки тому

    This is ridiculously cool, I had no idea this was coming!

  • @Dung30n
    @Dung30n 2 роки тому

    short, punchy and informative. why wasnt i subscribed yet? i guess i had no clue this channel exists, got lost in the sea of LMG content.

  • @megakiller999
    @megakiller999 2 роки тому +5

    Check the date

  • @zeropointmx2552
    @zeropointmx2552 2 роки тому +62

    Issue I see here is the SSD drama all over again. Fancy new CPU shows awesome benchmark from LTT, you run out and buy the exact same sku, just to find that the manufacturer replaced that APU with a lower cost, less performance version. I see the preverbal 'mixed bag' when purchasing CPUs in the future.

    • @combatwombat594
      @combatwombat594 2 роки тому +4

      You used so much terminology that has literally nothing to do with any of the rest of the things you talked about... Like I get it to a certain extent, but are you upset about SSDs or CPUs with on board graphics? lol

    • @sadakotube
      @sadakotube 2 роки тому +17

      @@combatwombat594 its probably because you didn't understand the ssd drama he is referring to.

    • @zeropointmx2552
      @zeropointmx2552 2 роки тому +13

      @@combatwombat594 A while back SSD's had some drama where the manufacturer's were switch controller chips inside the same product line, making it a crap-shoot on what you'd get. I was likening it to that, but for CPUs.

    • @sadakotube
      @sadakotube 2 роки тому +2

      "just to find the chiplet is replaced by a cheaper, lower performance versions"
      just offering a possible correction

    • @combatwombat594
      @combatwombat594 2 роки тому +4

      @@zeropointmx2552 ah OK, didn't hear about that. But yeah I see the potential for it to be done with this of course

  • @erushi5503
    @erushi5503 2 роки тому +1

    The heck, i was just writing and researching for this as my thesis paper but looks like someone already developed it, looks like i have to change my research topic

    • @lkv0315
      @lkv0315 2 роки тому

      I would just keep going with it tbh, maybe you’ll develop a similar final result but with a different methods to get there, versatility is a great thing!

  • @JS-wl3gi
    @JS-wl3gi 2 роки тому

    You could use different parts from manufactures to best fit work load, not dependent on one vendor for a part, you could save time and money outsourcing. Hoping this saves on power lowering the computing power grid requirement.

  • @JVHShack
    @JVHShack 2 роки тому +34

    AMD and Intel have had a business relationship in the past. AMD once made CPUs based on Intel's design in the 1980s and early 1990s. Just throwing that out there because Intel working with AMD isn't a new thing, it just hasn't happened in decades.

    • @Alucard-gt1zf
      @Alucard-gt1zf 2 роки тому

      You mean when amd was tiny and intel was a behemoth?
      That means absolutely nothing now that both are giants in each others fields

    • @Jabid21
      @Jabid21 2 роки тому +6

      It’s more like IBM forced Intel to work with AMD as a second source because IBM didn’t want to rely on just Intel to make processors for them for its supply chain.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jabid21 Thanks. Came here to say that.

    • @DDRWakaLaka
      @DDRWakaLaka 2 роки тому +3

      also technically Intel licenses AMD64/x86-64 from AMD

    • @morosis82
      @morosis82 2 роки тому +4

      AMD64 instruction set enters the chat.

  • @irwainnornossa4605
    @irwainnornossa4605 2 роки тому +39

    Everyone knows that 2 5G modems would give you 6G. Just as 2 4G modems gave us 5G.

    • @jasonzondor4788
      @jasonzondor4788 2 роки тому +2

      We have all the Gs

    • @satakrionkryptomortis
      @satakrionkryptomortis 2 роки тому +6

      thats not how it works. if you take 2 5g modems you get 10g. just like you get a 64 bit install if you install a 32bit version twice.

    • @youdontknowme5969
      @youdontknowme5969 2 роки тому

      that's so G, yo 😎

    • @frozenturbo8623
      @frozenturbo8623 2 роки тому +3

      @@satakrionkryptomortis Nope, if you have 2 5g modems it's actually 55g, Which is why 64 bit version is actually 6.4 bit version twice.

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 2 роки тому +2

      @@frozenturbo8623 2 5g us 25g, c'mon
      2 4g is 24g

  • @YouAreBreathing
    @YouAreBreathing 2 роки тому +1

    1:19 As the years were listed, I realized how old I was getting.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 2 роки тому

    Sounds very interesting.
    Thanks!

  • @karalynn4646
    @karalynn4646 2 роки тому +4

    This sounds fantastic on paper, but in practice I don't see this becoming mainstream

    • @SupaKoopaTroopa64
      @SupaKoopaTroopa64 2 роки тому

      I think it could see a lot of use in laptops. For example: customers could choose from an Intel/AMD/Nvidia GPU when ordering their laptop.

    • @karalynn4646
      @karalynn4646 2 роки тому

      @@SupaKoopaTroopa64 ya maybe for enthusiast/workstations but not for mass production like the generic dells and hps of the world ( no offense to them) I have a modified hp phoenix desktop

    • @ararune3734
      @ararune3734 2 роки тому

      @@SupaKoopaTroopa64 Most people buying laptops don't have a clue about it, this just opens so many new ways to exploit the customer.

  • @sebastiandalton3981
    @sebastiandalton3981 2 роки тому +3

    Core i9 with RDNA3 graphics?

    • @DigitalJedi
      @DigitalJedi 2 роки тому

      There actually was an i7 with Vega graphics back in the day. The i7 8809G was a 4c / 8t CPU with a built-in Vega M GH GPU. The whole thing had a TDP of 100W, which was mostly that GPU. It was used in some NUC designs as far as I can tell.

  • @MonochromeWench
    @MonochromeWench 2 роки тому

    Tech is related to PCIe, name has the word Express. The industry is so creative with naming

  • @Steveplays28
    @Steveplays28 2 роки тому

    This looks super interesting. Can't wait to see what gets made with this new standard.

  • @tleafyg
    @tleafyg 2 роки тому +3

    The potential of this is crazy.

  • @regularguy1934
    @regularguy1934 2 роки тому +4

    Imagine having a SOC with 4 Intel P-Cores 16 AMD cores for multitasking, AMD "Integrated" (Efficient) GPU, Nvidia "Dedicated" Power GPU, some wireless, 10G Ethernet and HBM Memory in the same package... In a tiny case with a liquid AIO...

  • @schnitzelsemmel
    @schnitzelsemmel 2 роки тому

    you could combine different architectures for example x86 for heavy computing, arm for background stuff and riscv for ambient computing all on one chip

  • @feraomara8932
    @feraomara8932 2 роки тому

    Better video than I thought it would be. Gj

  • @milesbresnahan2395
    @milesbresnahan2395 2 роки тому +14

    I honestly couldn't tell if this is real but apparently it is!

    • @GroteGlon
      @GroteGlon 2 роки тому +2

      I was checking the comments to see if this isnt also a april 1e joke lmfoa

  • @techdaddykb
    @techdaddykb 2 роки тому +3

    What would be awesome would be a CPU that combines x86_64 and ARM chiplets on a single package.

    • @maotio
      @maotio 2 роки тому

      @@agnez9711 this is a bot btw
      don't click da link

    • @Sadiinso
      @Sadiinso 2 роки тому

      but why ? I don't even see how you could get anything running on a CPU with two architetures/IS at once

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 2 роки тому +1

    I like this and could see it becoming the standard in the future.

  • @ZoltanHoppar
    @ZoltanHoppar 2 роки тому +1

    This is kinda returning to the basics, in the 80s where we used chipram and other modules to expand the computers. If this happens, it would be cool to have just a custom PCB with many connectors.

  • @noyz2828
    @noyz2828 2 роки тому +3

    I don't like it, some shitty devs already claim their game runs poorly because of the infinite amount of hardware combinations on PC this would only make it exponentially worse... and even if a game implemented it right I fear frame times might get all over the place id rather have a stable 144/240 FPS than 400FPS but with frame times all over the place.

    • @cablefeed3738
      @cablefeed3738 2 роки тому

      I'm guessing you mean that they would claim it's the reason it's This game is bad due to this new standard because the whole point of a standard is to standardize it.

  • @interlace84
    @interlace84 2 роки тому +35

    **WARNING** I remember Intel once resorting to "updating" compilers to "optimize" codepaths aka demotivate AMD 3DNow-adaptation in the 90s, no joke--
    I'd be *VERY* wary of how far they'll go to keep other brand chiplets from being combined with their own -_-

    • @horacegentleman3296
      @horacegentleman3296 2 роки тому

      Intel is really shitty as a company wish people would stop giving them money.

    • @hubertnnn
      @hubertnnn 2 роки тому +3

      No need to look that far, they messed with Windows 11 scheduler so AMD CPUs will work badly on it.
      If only they knew no one cares about Windows 11.

    • @interlace84
      @interlace84 2 роки тому

      @@hubertnnn *worked
      As a 5900x user I can testify switching to 11 today is a step up for me, but youre absolutely right! Damage was done when it absolutely mattered most (again) and that always sucks.

  • @daemian2k
    @daemian2k 2 роки тому

    Lolz great video, we could like to see you guys give your opinion on Apple possibly going the hardware rental business model.

  • @michalkmiecik
    @michalkmiecik 2 роки тому

    2:14 O proszę, Wrocław ❤

  • @adamthompson6669
    @adamthompson6669 2 роки тому +6

    You do realise the date you are releasing this on 😜 love ❤️ you LTT. Also loved the 10 hour sponsor video too so good 😜, I don’t trust UA-cam today 😂 😜 🙃

    • @prathamjohari8301
      @prathamjohari8301 2 роки тому +1

      but ucie is real thing that has been for the last month, it is not joke...

  • @x86_architecture10
    @x86_architecture10 2 роки тому +3

    I guess I'm early lol.

  • @udayangadeshapriya3950
    @udayangadeshapriya3950 Рік тому

    This channel offer great knowledge

  • @TylerTron21
    @TylerTron21 2 роки тому

    I have a 1982 Intel and AMD CPU. Model #R80 286. It's all good looking. It was before my 93 pentium and 96 it I also had as a kid. I still have all of them.

  • @pewira
    @pewira 2 роки тому +4

    first!!

  • @Highlandword9
    @Highlandword9 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, I got a Linus ad for pulseway before the video

  • @TheSocialGamer
    @TheSocialGamer 2 роки тому

    This is how building retro computers started out, think Amiga, Atari home computers. Changing GPU, CPU, RAM and even controllers on the motherboard. One reason people started using sockets that allowed for hot swapping motherboard components. Let's Go.... I'm In..!

  • @Zmac87
    @Zmac87 2 роки тому

    Subject for future video idea. How does file compression and de duplication work in storage.

  • @madeintexas3d442
    @madeintexas3d442 2 роки тому +1

    There weren't enough adds I'm this video. I wonder if LTT will ever release a video that is all adds. That would be the best.

  • @NoName-bg2om
    @NoName-bg2om 2 роки тому

    This could have awesome potential. For my tablet/ultra book I would want 1 cpu chiplet and 2 gpu chiplets for example. Excited for this I am.

  • @chrisshaw4723
    @chrisshaw4723 2 роки тому

    Just saw an actual ltt pulseway UA-cam advert before an ltt video

  • @anilchandra617
    @anilchandra617 2 роки тому +2

    That last joke had me good

  • @cheerial
    @cheerial 2 роки тому

    Great video as always, but i feel the music is overpowering james' voice a bit.

  • @PierIsABaraReader
    @PierIsABaraReader 2 роки тому

    Not sure if it's the April Fools working the inner Jonathan Van Ness on your hair, but that looks really good on you. Can you say, "Can you believe?" 😆

  • @cyberwomble7524
    @cyberwomble7524 2 роки тому

    "Modular", it's the new "tubular", man. Groooovy.

  • @krishnansrinivasan830
    @krishnansrinivasan830 2 роки тому

    Awesome & Thanks :)

  • @tristanhameleers7506
    @tristanhameleers7506 2 роки тому +1

    This would actually be an amazing idea

  • @Splarkszter
    @Splarkszter 2 роки тому +1

    Yes!! specialization is what we need.

  • @jitlua
    @jitlua 2 роки тому +1

    now with double the NSA backdoors!

  • @MightyElemental
    @MightyElemental 2 роки тому

    Wow. This is looking very promising.

  • @KuruGDI
    @KuruGDI 2 роки тому +1

    I imagine the "Security enclave" by Mircosoft be like a fat police man that is more interested in the Donut he just eats than the guy who gets robbed and shot dead right outside of the Donut store. 😆

  • @geoffreyvanpelt6147
    @geoffreyvanpelt6147 2 роки тому

    UCIe may solve the security problem that exists with the current CPU Management Engines; services in the system that can't be turned off or easily turned off. Like when certain 3-letter agencies in the US demanded a way to turn off the permanent remote access built into modern CPUs, so the manufacturer wouldn't have access to their systems. It can be partially disabled, but not fully.

  • @ShawnSatterfield
    @ShawnSatterfield 2 роки тому

    James does these the best.

  • @emiel333
    @emiel333 2 роки тому

    This is a direct result (and answer) to Apple’s M serie SoC. I think it’s a good thing and provides lot of possibilities

  • @JohnADoe-pg1qk
    @JohnADoe-pg1qk 2 роки тому

    It would be nice to know what minimum quantities you can go down to for a specific chiplet assembly if you still want to pay a reasonable price (and by that I mean the price of the assembly rather than the price of the chiplets installed, because they can in be bought in larger quantities in order to then be combined individually).
    But the chiplet assembly is only one side, you also have to connect the whole thing to the "outside world" with the pins.

    • @complimentaryrandomnessinc3137
      @complimentaryrandomnessinc3137 2 роки тому

      Just a thought, it might be alot like arm chips now where you can mix and match cores, then tune those cores to how you want.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 2 роки тому

    It would be great to see physically larger chips that can support better cooling because of this process on the high end of the performance scale.

  • @priitmolder6475
    @priitmolder6475 2 роки тому

    UCIe aka Infinity Fabric as industry standard. I really love this

  • @one-piece-Nr.1
    @one-piece-Nr.1 2 роки тому +1

    This would be really sick for a pc but this tech really need like 2-3 years to go to the market

  • @chillphill13
    @chillphill13 2 роки тому

    Would the example in 0:45 mean that motherboards can become the size of the chip since it handles almost everything and the need for modules slowly die?

  • @disinque6961
    @disinque6961 2 роки тому

    Modular would be a great idea, but they have to find a way to lower the latency between chips before this could be a thing

  • @odessacubbage5234
    @odessacubbage5234 2 роки тому

    Cover SRIO-V extensions, what is its practical and potential uses.

  • @meherali2942
    @meherali2942 2 роки тому

    Love the soundtrack