My hubby and I are so grateful to you for taking the time to upload this video ; ) We watched another helpful video, but our shower faucet was older (25+ years). You helped us identify the correct part, change the parts out, and save a couple hundred dollars in plumber fees. What a great feeling - we did it ourselves! Yaay! Thanks again.
Thanks so much for posting this! Especially the tip about the cartridge loosening tool. The enclosed instructions didn't mention this at all. Saved me a ton of time and frustration.
Hello mojochopper; You are more then welcome! I always say that the plastic tool is worth its weight in gold. It sure saves a lot of frustration. Glad your repair went well! Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Terrific, thanks. That tip about twisting it back and forth to break the friction between those rubber pads and the brass cylinder was a great share of your experience and did the trick for me.
Hello NMranchhand, You're welcome! Twisting the cartridge is the secret to making it come out much easier. I have heard of stories where people have got on top of their countertop and tried to pull it out without twisting it back and forth beforehand. Makes all the difference in the world. I am glad it worked out for you! Congrats on the repair! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
I followed your advice about being gentle and patient when using the plastic tool to remove the cartridge. It took a little time but it worked well. Thank you!
Hello Robert, You're welcome! Congrats! The plastic tool works well if you are patient. From time to time; it gets a little tougher, but there are other ways of removing the stem if that does happen. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thanks for showing me which cartridge I needed! Moen's website didn't specify which one, I ended up buying the wrong cartridge, and now I know which one to correctly get!
Hello Lisa; The 1225B is the pull out and turn. It is for kitchen, basin and the older style moen bath faucets. The 1222B is the newer style cartridge for the posi-temp bath faucets. moen does replace them under there warranty if you call the company; they will send one to you in the mail at no charge. Excellent company! Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
I’m the guy that stood on my counter with a vice grip attached to the stem 😅. I texted my plumber and asked if this was normal. He said to use the white plastic insert or a pliers to turn the cartridge. Thanks for the pro tip.
Hello corybinsfield2974, I have talked to a lot of people who have done the same thing. I started using the plastic tool a few decades back. Moen didn't mention anything in the instructions as I think everyone thought it was just covering the end of the cartridge for shipping. Makes all the difference in the world spinning the cartridge back and forth. I know a lot of plumbers who never knew that is what it was for as well. You're not alone. LOL! Be a good video though! Congrats on the repair! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thanks for the tip about the little plastic tool. I have always wondered what it is for, and this was the first time I have needed it. I had watched another video recommending taps and dies, valve pullers, etc--and all I needed was the little plastic tool to loosen the cartridge. Many, many thanks.
Hello Rich; You are more then welcome! Not a lot of people know what the plastic tool is for and that includes plumbers as well. There are times when the water is exceptionally hard and the plastic tool will not turn the cartridge before you pull it out, but I made another video explaining what to do if you come across that situation. Thanks for commenting and best of luck with the project! Al
Thanks for the tips! Especially on the usefulness of the white plastic tool to remove the cartridge. Moen themselves had a video where the cartridge was plucked out as if a gentle little flower. No mention of the tool nor its usefulness. Nearly threw out my back trying to do it the hard way. Thanks again!
Hello Damir; You are more then welcome! That little piece of plastic is worth its weight in gold as far as I am concerned. Funny Moen didn't mention the tool. I know I find it very handy. Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Hello Michael; I am planning on making a video tomorrow on another procedure. The little tool generally works, but a pair of needle nose pliers will work on stubborn cartridges. Open and place the pliers onto the cartridge and take a screwdriver, place it in between the open pliers and give it a turn. Should definitely work for you! Let me know how you get along and stay tuned tomorrow for the demo! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your evening! Al
Hello T Simons, You're welcome! Nice to know what to look for before making the repair! Moen is quite simple as far as their cartridges go. I am a big fan! Thanks for commenting and have a great one! Al
Hello tekman55, You're welcome! It's quite easy to do. Sure beats pulling the cartridge again! Thanks for commenting and I hope 2022 treats you well! Al
Many thanks for this video. A HUGE help. The cartridge was an absolute breeze to replace and who ever says THAT when it comes to plumbing. My local Home Hardware had a cartridge and I didn't have to pay anything because of Moen's lifetime guarantee...just had to take the old one back. It was 30 years old....the age of our house. Kudos to Moen. I wouldn't buy anything else now.
Hello z2bombers1, I am glad everything worked out for you! Congrats on the repair! I am a lifer with Moen. Excellent product as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for commenting and enjoy the holidays! Al
How does the return work. You have to have the old one on hand when you buy the new one? Or can you come back later with the old one and get your money back?
@@ZupE891 Take a picture of your Moen faucet and send that to Moen. You do not have to take out the old cartridge. Not sure if a hardware store will accept that, but you can try. Moen will give you a new cartridge, but not sure if they'll give your money back if you purchase one.
This was incredibly helpful! Thank you so much! There's no way I could have pulled hard enough without using the white tool. With that little tool it was easy and took no time at all :)
Hello Adam Fraser-Kruck, You're welcome! I am glad everything worked out for you! Congrats on the repair! Turning the cartridge is the secret for sure! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
@TheOldkid888 Thank You & greetings from sunny Orlando Florida! You were dead on! Here in Central Florida, hard water is a real problem. I unscrewed the aerator & white granular lime deposits were everywhere. Cleaned & re installed it. You saved me the cost of a cartridge! Took 5 minutes to fix. I Thank You Again" Kevin
This video filled in the gaps from another video I watched and made me aware of the little white tool which allowed me to finally extract the cartridge. I also got lucky when I put the new cartridge in and got it right the first time.
Hello NJ Hog, Great to hear! That little plastic tool comes in handy for sure. It also can be used to align the cartridge when placing it back in the faucet body! Glad everything worked out for you! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Hello Jordan, You're more than welcome! Makes all the difference in the world when it comes to removing the cartridge. A little turn back and forth before pulling it out saves a lot of struggle. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
I just want to thank yo for your video. I viewed another video that said "little white plastic" thing that comes with the cartridge is "completely useless". Your video clearly explained the usefulness of this tool. Literally, I was standing on the counter trying to pull it out. I thought I would have to go the route of a plumber. Your video explained that because the rubber binds with the metal, you use the white plastic tool to gently wiggle it left to right. Anyway, it worked! So, thank you for your video,
Hello Joe, Lisa & Gabriel Levine; You are more then welcome! The little tool they give with the cartridge works on almost all cartridge replacements. I am glad you got along well with the repair! Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Your instructions worked like a charm and I was able to get the cartridge for free at Home Hardware in Canada without any proof of purchase or the old cartridge! Thank you for posting this.
Ralph Pritchard You are more then welcome! I am glad you were able to get the cartridge free of charge! Good feeling for sure! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Hello larryps, You're welcome! Hopefully it helps with your repair! If you have any further questions feel free to ask! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Brilliant! I watched and rewatched the official moen video and was stuck at getting the valve out, they didnt bother to show the trick with the white cap. Used the cap as described and it came right off!
Hello Michael! Thanks! Congrats on the repair! I figured there had to be a reason for the cap. I have never found any information on it, but I decided to give it a try and it worked very well. I believe the company puts it in the bag to allow the installer to make slight turns to the cartridge allowing the retaining clip to go in easier and push it into the faucet body. But turning the cartridge back and forth with the plastic tool allows it to come out much easier. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
@MrUltraworld Hey Kevin; Glad it worked for you. It didn't seem like a cartridge problem with your discription of your problem. Thanks for commenting and have a great weekend!!! Al
@Stippell Hello there; Hopefully I helped you out a little with this video. Moen is tops in my books. Great product. Thanks for commenting and have yourself a great weekend!!! Al
Hello damnimcooltom1, You are more than welcome! Hopefully any repair projects go well for you in the future! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Great info!! Thank you so much cuz I couldn't decide which one to order for my tub/shower faucet. And since the handle pulls out I ordered the 1225. No one else explained that! Gracias!
Hello Carol Nicola, You're welcome! I am glad everything worked out for you! Hopefully the repair goes well! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
My second cartridge is a bit more complicated. The set screw for the handle is rusted and I have not been able to remove it. The screw is slotted. I will try to cut the handle off and see if I can make the slot deeper with a dremmel tool. I don't want to drill it out on fears that I'll damage the theads that I'll need to pull out the cartridge. My easy out on small screws hasn't worked well in the past. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks again! J.B.
Hello Jb Bennett; I would try cutting the handle as you mentioned. I wouldn't worry about the threads as they are on the old cartridge and have nothing to do with the removal of the cartridge. Getting the handle off can be the toughest part of the job sometimes. Thanks for commenting and best of luck with the repair! Al
Just want to thank you very much for explaining they used to put the 1225b in years ago because we were puzzled. Did not remember a few years ago husband replaced a 1225b with 1222b part moen sent us. We saved the old part and thought it was what we needed, however it "was" 1222b that was needed. Thanks!!!
Hello Arsenio, You are more than welcome! Pulls out...1225 cartridge Only turns...1222 cartridge Thanks for the kind words and best of luck with the repair! Al
Thank you. After 6 months of procrastinating, I found this video and got a free :-) replacement cartridge at Home Depot, spent a whopping 10 minutes and whadda-ya-know; no more drips! If only everything was so easy.
Thank you very much for this short identification of parts video. I am not the plumber but I was unsure of which one before even pulling. Laymen here and this one I have is def the 1222.. God bless
Hello Tom B, You're welcome! I am glad the video was able to help! 1222 is for Moen tub and shower or shower valve. 1225 for kitchen and basin faucets. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Hello 1buckdharma; If it is a Moen cartridge then it should be a 1225B cartridge. They were the older style. The 1222B is about twice the size in diameter and is for the new bath and shower faucet. You may have to take the cartridge apart and apply a little plumber's lube to the O-rings. This should make it a lot easier to pull out and turn. Thanks for commenting and best of luck with the repair! Al
Hello DAKaasa; Sorry to hear about the handle. Three days without a shower is not pleasant for sure, but I am happy you got it repaired. Nice to hear everything is back in order. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
Hello baldasareaw; You are more then welcome! Glad it worked out for you and congrats on the repair! The little plastic tool works 99% of the time! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your day! Al
Hello Chad Woehnker, I am glad everything went well for you! $53 seems a little pricey. If you have the old one take it and go back to the store and ask them for a replacement for free. They should do it for you or go to another hardware store. Many of them will replace it for no charge. Was it a Moen posi-temp cartridge? Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
You have saved me no end of groaning and cussing. Once I saw that plastic I thought, "I have one of those". Sure enough it worked like a charn an in couple minutes the job was done. I thank you and so does my wife.
Hello William; I am glad it worked out for you and congrats on the repair! That plastic tool is worth its weight in gold for sure! Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Great video! I had a very hard time getting my 1225 cartridge out. I yanked on the top with pliers but it would not budge. I wanted to be sure I could get it out first before purchasing a replacement so I did not have the little plastic tool that comes with the replacement and not sure it would have worked any way. I observed on the side of the stem of the cartridge, near the top, is a small hole on the side and using the biggest allen key I had that would fit the hole placed it in it. Under the allen key I placed my pliers under it, sideways, to give me something for leverage. I then pushed down on the allen key and to my surprise it popped up relatively easy. I had to work it some to get it all the way out. I bought a replacement at Lowes for $20 and replaced it and it works great. A little unorthodox method, I know, but it worked. Just be careful not to damage any other parts, especially the tabs of the old one in case it does not work for you. Though the new one comes already greased I added a little more.
@@stephenlam4529 I read on the Moen site that they will only replace your cartridge if you are the original owner. We are the second owner of our house so I just bought a replacement on Ebay quite cheaply got a two pack for around $20.
Your comment about the Allen wrench helped me get my tub diverter out... did it a little differently because lack of space, but your Allen wrench idea got the ball rolling! Thanks! 7 year old comment for the win!
Thank you, your video helped me replace my first shower cartridge!! I learned about the difference between the 1222 and the 1225. I also would not have known about making sure the hot water had to be turned a certain way.
Thanks for the little tool info! I have the 1225 and replaced it before covid but it has leaked (hot side) ever since so we keep the hot water off until we use the faucet. I have another cartridge and this week I am going to pull it again and replace it hoping the "barrel" is not scratched and I can solve my problem.
I didn’t find this video until after I replaced the cartridge. First I had no idea that it was a Moen, since there are no markings anywhere on the outside. Then it took 1/2 hour of prying, pulling, and yanking to remove the old cartridge. I took it to Home Depot and they were no help identifying it. The old cartridge had a number 12801 stamped on it. I found that same number stamped on the 1225 cartridge. The new cartridge included the plastic tool that I needed to remove the old one. This job was a big PITA!
Hello Barack Blows, The cartridge can be difficult to remove for sure. I have heard of people standing on top of their countertop trying to pull the cartridge out. Turing it back and forth makes all the difference in the world when it comes to removing it. I am glad to hear you got the repair done. Congrats! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
@MrUltraworld Hello there; If I were you I would remove the aerator and see what your water flow is like. Even though your spray seems to have pressure; the water goes threw very small holes and it could seem like there is lots of water. I would first try this and clean the inside of the aerator and reinstall it on the faucet. Let me know how you got along. Thanks for commenting and drop me a message!!! Al
+Jeff Gilmore You are more than welcome! Hopefully it will help with any future repairs you may make on a Moen faucet. Thanks for the kind words and enjoy your weekend! Al
The old cartridge came out easily and the repair was a success. As I was walking out of the bathroom I noticed the sink faucet was streaming a leak too! So I went back to the Hardware store and bought the exact same 1225, that went twice as fast! I had to turn the water off at the street because the gate valve feeding the house will not shut off all the way. When you turn the handle all the way in it leaks from the stem. Open it does not leak, so I have some time to figure this one out.. Thanks again!
Jeff Gilmore You are more than welcome! Glad both repairs went well for you! The valve is probably not used that often so that is very common. If it is a gate valve, there is a good possibility that the packing nut may have to be tightened on it. Or it could also be the o-ring on the stem. One or the other. Nice to be able to turn it off at the street. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Hello nogovannut9386, You're welcome! I am a big Moen fan myself. Great product! Hopefully it helps with any future projects! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Except they make the part that actually connects the handle to the cartridge out of cheap plastic that breaks once the cartridge becomes a little sticky. All that metal let down by a 2 cent plastic part.
video over 3 years ago, but still a goodie. it helped clarify whether i needed the puller, since posts on other sites tried to scare people into buying it. the only mistake i made was forcing the cartridge in and breaking the o-ring, but the second one i bought went in well. no leaks.
Hello Michael; Thanks for the kind words! Congrats on the repair! You have to be a little careful when installing the cartridge as the o-rings can get nipped. I personally don't own a puller. The plastic tool works on most of them. Once they begin to turn; you can usually remove them with a set of channels or pliers. If you call Moen; they will mail you a free cartridge at no charge directly and mail it to your home. Just tell them what type it is and when it was installed. They are an excellent company and have a great warranty. Thanks for commenting and have a great week! Al
Hello DAKaasa; It doesn't matter,,,girl or boy when it comes to the trade. Girls are just as capable as boys. Big thing to check for with the posi is to make sure the H and C are at the top and you are all set. I hope you get along well with the repair. When you get a chance; leave a message on your repair. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! G. L. Al
It helps to know that Moen's faucet handles require a 7/64 allen(hex) wrench, a size NOT included in many sets. Less than a dollar. Buy one before you drive yourself nuts.
Hello Candace Hackett Shively, So very true! LOL! No need of of doing that for the sake of a buck. Thanks for commenting and I appreciate your input! Al
Candace Hackett Shively it's TOO LATE! they told me on the phone it'd just come right off...obviously I was talking handles, she was talking cartridge. Thanks soooooooo much! You should make a video that says that one thing whilst showing the tool. whatta time-saver.
Great tip, Candace. A word of caution, though - not all Moen faucets use the same size, even if the faucets look identical. I have two Moen Monticello single handle bath/shower faucets purchased about 10 years apart. They are the exact same model. They appear identical on the outside and they both use the 1225 cartridge, but there are quite a few internal differences. Regarding the handle set screw, the newer one, installed c. 2009, uses the 7/64 hex as you say. The older one installed c. 2000 uses a 3/32 hex set screw. The older faucet was really getting hard to operate, so I decided to give it a tune-up. I had no problem finding the right size hex wrench and removing the handle. Of course only after I changed the cartridge on the older one did I notice that the newer faucet had already lost a lot of the easy operation (silky feel) that the rejuvenated older faucet has. But initially I was stumped at how to remove the handle of the newer faucet. I went through all my standard and metric hex wrenches and it turned out I had nothing that fit. As you suggest, I was close to the point of going nuts, especially since I knew what size I used on the other "identical" faucet. I had to make a trip to the hardware store to buy another set that included the 7/64 hex wrench, and that was the ticket on the newer faucet. Another difference is the metal sleeve that covers the brass cartridge housing. On the newer faucet, you can slide it right out without removing the escutcheon (as shown in the pictorial Moen directions that come with the replacement cartridge). On the older faucet, that piece has two flared-out tabs that prevent removal of the sleeve without first removing he escutcheon. I should have ground them off before re-assembly. I see no purpose for them other than to make disassembly more difficult. Another tip I'll share. It was not possible to remove either cartridge initially, nor even to turn it with the provided tool. The cartridges were stuck so tightly that the plastic tool would walk right out of the engagement without budging the cartridge. I saw another video in which a person used a needle nose pliers to initially budge the cartridge a little bit, but even that trick would not move it. So I began spraying white vinegar and allowing it to soak in and do its thing on the mineral deposits. I kept spraying every couple hours. After a day or so of waiting in each case, I tried again and was able to begin turning and then eventually remove the cartridges. Maybe I should just resign to re-lubricating or replacing them on a maintenance basis every few years. I recall replacing cartridges on other Moen faucets in my house (the kitchen faucet plus the one that was originally in the master bath), but I never had this degree of trouble removing an old cartridge. Looks like it's time to replace my water softener! One other thing. Both of my bathroom faucets include the built-in stop valves. I think the versions that include the stop valves cost about $10-20 extra when I bought them. It sounded like a good idea. But when it came time to use them, I was barely able to get them to turn on the 2009 vintage faucet. They would not budge on the 2000 faucet. It's a nice idea if they would work. I probably ruined them because of a faulty water softener.
I used the little white tool and it was useless. My 16-17 year old Moen 1222 cartridge did not want to come out of the housing. I had to buy the Moen positemp cartridge puller from Home Depot and even then it was a chore. Put it back in with silicone plumbing lube. Hopefully won't need to replace it again.
hello PriestPhotios; This happens from time to time with the new cartridge. I believe they over lube them and just the weight of the handle is enough to shut them off. You can either exchange that one for another new cartridge or give it a little time and it will stiffen up and you will need to use the handle to shut it off. Sorry for youe troubles and best of luck! Al
After watching your video and installing my 1225 cartridge, I honestly think the tool is more for aligning the two plastic tabs vertically rather than use as a removal tool. It is a bugger to install the clip if the body is inserted off just a little bit and the tool can help rotate it in place. Hope this is helpful to someone.
I just took out one that was never used and tried to put it back in. It would not go in far enough to get the pin back on. Is the trick to keep wiggling it?
I have another handle just above that controls the water flow on and off as well as between 2 showerheads. When I replaced the cartridge on the lower handle the water now also turns off when turned fully towards cold, whereas before it only turned to control water temperature.
I don't really know if Moen is best or not. But for sure they have the best customer service. Amazing, really. As the parts fail on my old Moen faucets they just keep sending me replacement parts, and they pay for everything. I just have to call and explain my problem. That will keep me buying Moen forever I guess.
Guam Vet Agree ! At least Moen realized there is a problem with the 1225B. Lifetime warranty is offer. Shouldn't they replace it with a improved cartridge to solve the issue ?!?
Thanks so much, my single-handle ~2015 Moen shower faucet was removed with the help of someone pulling the shaft while I twisted the cartridge back and forth around an ~30 degree range, think, twisting from 3 O’Clock to 5 O’Clock repeatedly. Otherwise, it would not come out...
Hello Kevlar Shanahan, You're welcome! You're are absolutely correct! If you don't turn the cartridge before you try and pull it out; you will definitely have your hands full as you probably know. I have heard of people actually standing on counter tops trying to remove the cartridge. Turning the cartridge is key! Congrats on the repair! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
I replaced my shower because it was leaking when it was apparently off.. When I pulled it it was the one on the right the one with the clear view.. It is still leaking after replacing it.. Why is it still leaking if I put it exactly the way the other one was.. Please advice how I can fix the leak with the new replacement cartridge.. Thank You and that is a awesome explanation of the tools to use..
i just replaced mine last night on my shower. I did all this and it was still unbelievably hard to pull out. My concern was of pulling the wall down ( that was how hard I was pulling) . Not very happy with the water pressure. Is there a replacement cartridge for this 1222b from someone other than Moen that will give a person more water pressure? I know you say how great this faucet is but with the low pressure and how hard it was to replace I will never buy another one.
We've just replaced a Moen 1225B cartridge in our stand up shower successfully. We thought by doing so it would fix the problem of only getting hot water out of the shower head. But........the problem still exists. The shower does not produce cold water. This is a secondary shower only used when the grand kids or guests come to visit. Can you suggest a home repair before we have to call in a plumber. Thanks so much!
I have used a wooden laundry pin (for hanging laundry on a clothes line) as a substitute for plastic tool. I had no idea what brand of faucet I had , so needed to remove it before I could purchase a replacement.
Hello Linda, That what is called thinking outside the box! Congrats on that! Hopefully the repair went well for you! Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Hello kebebos; You are more then welcome! Thanks for the kind words! I am glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting and best of luck with the repair! Al
@mikeplantamura Hello Mike; If you have to pull the handle out to allow the water to flow and then turn it to the right for cold and left for hot; you will need the 1225B cartridge. The bigger of the 2 cartridges does not pull out and is the 1222B cartridge. Best of luck and thanks for your comments!! Al
That piece of info right there is worth it's weight in gold since Moen can't be bothered to effing identify anything or label it, and their customer service is worse than the DMV. If it actually were guaranteed for life, I wouldn't be replacing it now, would I? I called Moen and they had the balls to tell me their product shouldn't be used in a hard water environment with lots of build up. I didn't put it in, I'm just the jackass trying to fix it.
Thanks so much for posting all of your videos! I was successful in replacing the 1225 cartridge in my Moen Adler Lavatory Faucet, but when I replaced the handle [this is the acrylic round handle which they call low profile], it keeps spinning around in a 360 degree angle. I tightened down the screw well that keeps the handle on, but I can't figure out why the handle won't stop at the usual 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock positions like it use to do. The faucet works well and does not leak at all now. Please let me know if you have a fix for this. Thanks again, Mitch.
On mine the metal sleeve works with the handle to stop it from turning. did you remember to put in the metal sleeve that goes between the overall valve assembly and the handle?
Hi, thanks for the great video to help me confirm that I bought the wrong cartridge. The posi temp is too wide and the plastic tool won't fit over the cartrige in the faucet.
Hello bethperrotta, You're welcome! Unfortunately they don't fit. The posi-temp cartridge (1222) is only for the more recent bath/shower faucet. The 1225 will fit all single lever sink faucets. Thanks for commenting and hopefully the repair goes well for you! Al
Nice short video, right to the point. Thanks very helpful. I got the replacement cartridge at Home Depot for free simply by asking. Didn't even have the old cartridge with me.
Hello Randy, you are more than welcome! Nice to get the cartridge for free. Most hardware and big box stores do that. Thanks for commenting and good luck with the repair! Al
"We" just had to replace the plastic handle! However, the first handle broke inside, trying to put it on, and on second try, (which we agonized and pondered over for quite awhile) my boyfriend just rotated the thing clockwise, once, then the handle fit on nicely. I think the 2 handles were 8 bucks each, but beats the 40 dollar fix! 3 days without a shower, sucked! Thanks for the helpful video, *Oldkid :o)
About 2 years after installing a 1225 cartridge our single handle Moen (7800) kitchen faucet has become harder to lift up and down. Any advise? Thanks for the video...Nothing like On the Job training experience.
I agree that Moen faucets are great. However, the last time I called them for a replacement cartridge they told me the lifetime guarantee is only for the original purchaser of the home. Since the average person stays in their house for about 7 years that is your guarantee.
Hello Norm475, They are a good product. I am their biggest fan. No kick back either...strange.... The warranty is void if you didn't make the initial purchase. I have heard of that before. I didn't realize that was the average time spent living in a home. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Just recently bought and replaced my Moen cartridge and I bought that "T" looking stem wrench tool to pull it out. I threw that plastic away because I thought it was just for the packaging... *face palm* But any way, my faucet is leaking again, so I'm about to take it all off and try to install it all again to see if maybe I did something wrong. :-/ Great videos!
+lovelylouro You installed a 1225 cartridge. Sorry about the plastic tool situation. The face palm was a funny comment. Probably not to you, but I can picture it happening. The instructions don't have the plastic any where with the new cartridge. Figured that one out myself many moons ago. You may have got a bad cartridge. Very rare, but it does happen. Give the company a call; 1-800 number, explain your situation and they should send you one in the mail free of charge. Excellent to deal with. Thanks for commenting and let me know how you get along....Al
Thank you for responding. Seems I hadn't tightened up the actual handle (plastic-crystal knob) on right and it was causing all sorts of trouble. Luckily, since it was just the handle, after I put everything back together, problem solved. Feel pretty dumb, but I had never attempted something like installing a cartridge before. Live and learn. Have a good one.
lovelylouro You are more than welcome! Nice to get it repaired regardless of how much fine tuning you had to do. Congrats on that! Day not learned is a day wasted. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Stuff like this is the true value of youtube. Thanks Old Kid!
Hello Adam,
You're welcome!
I hope you get along well with future projects!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
Thank you, Sir. Answered many questions in a very short period of time.
Ten years after posting this video it is still a very helpful piece of information! Thanks for the great information.
Hello jackC,
You're welcome!
Hopefully the repair goes well for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
My hubby and I are so grateful to you for taking the time to upload this video ; ) We watched another helpful video, but our shower faucet was older (25+ years). You helped us identify the correct part, change the parts out, and save a couple hundred dollars in plumber fees. What a great feeling - we did it ourselves! Yaay! Thanks again.
Thank you for your information! Thanks to you, I was able to change my cartridge without calling the plumber. Could not have done it without you!
Hello Glenn,
You're welcome!
Congrats on the repair!
Glad everything went well for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thank you Sir! Awesome video, you just saved me a small fortune. Took five minutes to replace, and works better than ever!
Hello southbaysurplus;
You are more then welcome!
Glad you got along well with the repair!
Thanks for commenting and have a great week! Al
Thanks so much for posting this! Especially the tip about the cartridge loosening tool. The enclosed instructions didn't mention this at all. Saved me a ton of time and frustration.
Hello mojochopper;
You are more then welcome!
I always say that the plastic tool is worth its weight in gold. It sure saves a lot of frustration. Glad your repair went well!
Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Terrific, thanks. That tip about twisting it back and forth to break the friction between those rubber pads and the brass cylinder was a great share of your experience and did the trick for me.
Hello NMranchhand,
You're welcome!
Twisting the cartridge is the secret to making it come out much easier. I have heard of stories where people have got on top of their countertop and tried to pull it out without twisting it back and forth beforehand. Makes all the difference in the world.
I am glad it worked out for you!
Congrats on the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
This video saved me a lot of hard work today. Thank you 👍
Hello Flyboy Phil,
You are more than welcome!
I am glad everything went well for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Great information. Thanks for putting this together.
I followed your advice about being gentle and patient when using the plastic tool to remove the cartridge. It took a little time but it worked well. Thank you!
Hello Robert,
You're welcome!
Congrats! The plastic tool works well if you are patient.
From time to time; it gets a little tougher, but there are other ways of removing the stem if that does happen.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thanks for showing me which cartridge I needed! Moen's website didn't specify which one, I ended up buying the wrong cartridge, and now I know which one to correctly get!
Hello Lisa;
The 1225B is the pull out and turn. It is for kitchen, basin and the older style moen bath faucets. The 1222B is the newer style cartridge for the posi-temp bath faucets.
moen does replace them under there warranty if you call the company; they will send one to you in the mail at no charge. Excellent company!
Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
I’m the guy that stood on my counter with a vice grip attached to the stem 😅. I texted my plumber and asked if this was normal. He said to use the white plastic insert or a pliers to turn the cartridge. Thanks for the pro tip.
Hello corybinsfield2974,
I have talked to a lot of people who have done the same thing.
I started using the plastic tool a few decades back. Moen didn't mention anything in the instructions as I think everyone thought it was just covering the end of the cartridge for shipping. Makes all the difference in the world spinning the cartridge back and forth. I know a lot of plumbers who never knew that is what it was for as well. You're not alone. LOL!
Be a good video though!
Congrats on the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thanks for the tip about the little plastic tool. I have always wondered what it is for, and this was the first time I have needed it. I had watched another video recommending taps and dies, valve pullers, etc--and all I needed was the little plastic tool to loosen the cartridge. Many, many thanks.
Hello Rich;
You are more then welcome!
Not a lot of people know what the plastic tool is for and that includes plumbers as well.
There are times when the water is exceptionally hard and the plastic tool will not turn the cartridge before you pull it out, but I made another video explaining what to do if you come across that situation.
Thanks for commenting and best of luck with the project! Al
Thank you so much, we were getting angry that the old cartridge was not coming out. Little tool = awesome
Hello dmevans42;
Thanks for the kind words!
You are more then welcome!
Thanks for commenting and I hope this helps with your repair! Al
Thanks for the tips! Especially on the usefulness of the white plastic tool to remove the cartridge. Moen themselves had a video where the cartridge was plucked out as if a gentle little flower. No mention of the tool nor its usefulness. Nearly threw out my back trying to do it the hard way. Thanks again!
Hello Damir;
You are more then welcome!
That little piece of plastic is worth its weight in gold as far as I am concerned. Funny Moen didn't mention the tool.
I know I find it very handy.
Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Hello Michael;
I am planning on making a video tomorrow on another procedure. The little tool generally works, but a pair of needle nose pliers will work on stubborn cartridges. Open and place the pliers onto the cartridge and take a screwdriver, place it in between the open pliers and give it a turn. Should definitely work for you!
Let me know how you get along and stay tuned tomorrow for the demo!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your evening! Al
Thank u it was helpful
This helped me identify my moen cartridge before I could pull it out. Thank you!! Appreciate the no-nonsense explanation.
Hello T Simons,
You're welcome!
Nice to know what to look for before making the repair!
Moen is quite simple as far as their cartridges go. I am a big fan!
Thanks for commenting and have a great one! Al
Did you need a special tool to take the cartridge out?
Your info about changing hot and cold saved me! Thanks.
Hello tekman55,
You're welcome!
It's quite easy to do. Sure beats pulling the cartridge again!
Thanks for commenting and I hope 2022 treats you well! Al
Many thanks for this video. A HUGE help. The cartridge was an absolute breeze to replace and who ever says THAT when it comes to plumbing. My local Home Hardware had a cartridge and I didn't have to pay anything because of Moen's lifetime guarantee...just had to take the old one back. It was 30 years old....the age of our house. Kudos to Moen. I wouldn't buy anything else now.
Hello z2bombers1,
I am glad everything worked out for you!
Congrats on the repair!
I am a lifer with Moen. Excellent product as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy the holidays! Al
How does the return work. You have to have the old one on hand when you buy the new one? Or can you come back later with the old one and get your money back?
@@ZupE891 Take a picture of your Moen faucet and send that to Moen. You do not have to take out the old cartridge. Not sure if a hardware store will accept that, but you can try. Moen will give you a new cartridge, but not sure if they'll give your money back if you purchase one.
this is a great video explaining the difference between these two cartridges, thank you oldkid
Hello Caper Camper,
You're welcome!
Hopefully it helps with any future projects!
Thanks for the kind words and enjoy your day! Al
This was incredibly helpful! Thank you so much! There's no way I could have pulled hard enough without using the white tool. With that little tool it was easy and took no time at all :)
Hello Adam Fraser-Kruck,
You're welcome!
I am glad everything worked out for you!
Congrats on the repair!
Turning the cartridge is the secret for sure!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thank you. This was very helpful and pointed me in the right direction. 1225 did the trick and the project is done perfectly!
@TheOldkid888 Thank You & greetings from sunny Orlando Florida! You were dead on! Here in Central Florida, hard water is a real problem. I unscrewed the aerator & white granular lime deposits were everywhere. Cleaned & re installed it. You saved me the cost of a cartridge! Took 5 minutes to fix. I Thank You Again"
Kevin
This video filled in the gaps from another video I watched and made me aware of the little white tool which allowed me to finally extract the cartridge. I also got lucky when I put the new cartridge in and got it right the first time.
Hello NJ Hog,
Great to hear!
That little plastic tool comes in handy for sure. It also can be used to align the cartridge when placing it back in the faucet body!
Glad everything worked out for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
This video was very useful, I just happened to see it before fixing my shower. Thanks for posting. That little white tool thingy saved my butt.
Hello Jordan,
You're more than welcome!
Makes all the difference in the world when it comes to removing the cartridge. A little turn back and forth before pulling it out saves a lot of struggle.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thanx for the tips. Helped out alot!
I just want to thank yo for your video. I viewed another video that said "little white plastic" thing that comes with the cartridge is "completely useless". Your video clearly explained the usefulness of this tool. Literally, I was standing on the counter trying to pull it out. I thought I would have to go the route of a plumber. Your video explained that because the rubber binds with the metal, you use the white plastic tool to gently wiggle it left to right. Anyway, it worked! So, thank you for your video,
Hello Joe, Lisa & Gabriel Levine;
You are more then welcome!
The little tool they give with the cartridge works on almost all cartridge replacements.
I am glad you got along well with the repair!
Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Your instructions worked like a charm and I was able to get the cartridge for free at Home Hardware in Canada without any proof of purchase or the old cartridge! Thank you for posting this.
Ralph Pritchard
You are more then welcome!
I am glad you were able to get the cartridge free of charge! Good feeling for sure!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
thank you for lending your expertise to us. Great info.
Hello larryps,
You're welcome!
Hopefully it helps with your repair!
If you have any further questions feel free to ask!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Hello dee doc,
You're welcome!
Hopefully it helps with any future projects!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
Your video was a great help, thanks! I am sure it saved me alot of frustration
Hello Darin,
You're welcome!
Hopefully it made things easier for you with the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your day! Al
On my side job today i replaced a 1225 cartridge it was my 1st time replacing this so easy after watchn ur video thank u so much.best wishes to u.
Hello Tino;
You are more then welcome!
I am glad you went well with the repair!
Thanks for commenting and have a great week! Al
GREAT video...helped a LOT...thanks
Hello IBPICKER;
You are more then welcome!
Thanks for the kind words!
I am glad you got along well!
Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Hello TheMacies4;
I am glad the video helped you out with your repair job!
Congrats with the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your day! Al
Thank you for making this excellent video. I didn't know which cartiridge I have and now, I do. : )
Hello Platinum Chaos,
You're welcome!
Great!
I am glad everything worked out for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your day! Al
Brilliant! I watched and rewatched the official moen video and was stuck at getting the valve out, they didnt bother to show the trick with the white cap. Used the cap as described and it came right off!
Hello Michael!
Thanks!
Congrats on the repair!
I figured there had to be a reason for the cap. I have never found any information on it, but I decided to give it a try and it worked very well. I believe the company puts it in the bag to allow the installer to make slight turns to the cartridge allowing the retaining clip to go in easier and push it into the faucet body.
But turning the cartridge back and forth with the plastic tool allows it to come out much easier.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
@MrUltraworld Hey Kevin;
Glad it worked for you. It didn't seem like a cartridge problem with your discription of your problem.
Thanks for commenting and have a great weekend!!! Al
@Stippell Hello there;
Hopefully I helped you out a little with this video. Moen is tops in my books. Great product.
Thanks for commenting and have yourself a great weekend!!! Al
Much appreciated this very useful video and the tricks.
Hello kain5821,
Great to hear!
Hopefully it helps with any future repairs!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
Helpful tips. Thanks!
Hello damnimcooltom1,
You are more than welcome!
Hopefully any repair projects go well for you in the future!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Great info!! Thank you so much cuz I couldn't decide which one to order for my tub/shower faucet. And since the handle pulls out I ordered the 1225. No one else explained that! Gracias!
Hello Carol Nicola,
You're welcome!
I am glad everything worked out for you!
Hopefully the repair goes well!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
Thank you! Super video. Just changed my 50+ year old cartridge. Thanks again!!!
Hello Jb Bennett;
You are more then welcome!
Glad it worked out well for you!
Thanks for commenting and congrats on the repair! Al
My second cartridge is a bit more complicated. The set screw for the handle is rusted and I have not been able to remove it. The screw is slotted. I will try to cut the handle off and see if I can make the slot deeper with a dremmel tool. I don't want to drill it out on fears that I'll damage the theads that I'll need to pull out the cartridge. My easy out on small screws hasn't worked well in the past. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks again! J.B.
Hello Jb Bennett;
I would try cutting the handle as you mentioned. I wouldn't worry about the threads as they are on the old cartridge and have nothing to do with the removal of the cartridge.
Getting the handle off can be the toughest part of the job sometimes.
Thanks for commenting and best of luck with the repair! Al
Thanks, Al.
Just want to thank you very much for explaining they used to put the 1225b in years ago because we were puzzled. Did not remember a few years ago husband replaced a 1225b with 1222b part moen sent us. We saved the old part and thought it was what we needed, however it "was" 1222b that was needed. Thanks!!!
Hello texan4now,
You're more than welcome!
I am glad everything straightened away.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your day! Al
Great tutorial thank you for the info. My biggest concern was Identifying the valve.
Hello Arsenio,
You are more than welcome!
Pulls out...1225 cartridge
Only turns...1222 cartridge
Thanks for the kind words and best of luck with the repair! Al
Great video you rock!!
Hello Mark;
Thanks very much for the kind words!
Thanks for commenting and have a great week! Al
Thank you. After 6 months of procrastinating, I found this video and got a free :-) replacement cartridge at Home Depot, spent a whopping 10 minutes and whadda-ya-know; no more drips!
If only everything was so easy.
Hello OHFORPEATSAKES,
You're welcome!
I am glad everything worked out for you! Congrats on the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
@ianmacdon; Hey Ian;
Thanks very much!!! I hope it helps in the repair of your faucet.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend!!! Al
Thank you very much for this short identification of parts video. I am not the plumber but I was unsure of which one before even pulling. Laymen here and this one I have is def the 1222.. God bless
Hello Tom B,
You're welcome!
I am glad the video was able to help!
1222 is for Moen tub and shower or shower valve.
1225 for kitchen and basin faucets.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
@jhardknox Hello;
Hopefully this will help you out with your repair and you are more then welcome!
Thanks for commenting!!! Al
Thanks for the video!
Hello Robert,
You're welcome!
Hopefully it helps with any future repairs!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your day! Al
Hello 1buckdharma;
If it is a Moen cartridge then it should be a 1225B cartridge. They were the older style. The 1222B is about twice the size in diameter and is for the new bath and shower faucet.
You may have to take the cartridge apart and apply a little plumber's lube to the O-rings. This should make it a lot easier to pull out and turn.
Thanks for commenting and best of luck with the repair! Al
Hello DAKaasa; Sorry to hear about the handle. Three days without a shower is not pleasant for sure, but I am happy you got it repaired. Nice to hear everything is back in order. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
Hello baldasareaw;
You are more then welcome!
Glad it worked out for you and congrats on the repair!
The little plastic tool works 99% of the time!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your day! Al
Thank you!
I used this and went to Home Depot. They had mine in stock for $53 and it was installed within the next hour.
Hello Chad Woehnker,
I am glad everything went well for you!
$53 seems a little pricey. If you have the old one take it and go back to the store and ask them for a replacement for free. They should do it for you or go to another hardware store. Many of them will replace it for no charge.
Was it a Moen posi-temp cartridge?
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
Thank Sharing tips and tricks video is very educational for me
Hello VIP,
You are more than welcome!
Hope it makes thing s a little easier for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
@view52 Hello;
Hopefully this video has helped you out with your repair1
Thannks for commenting and have a great day!!! Al
You have saved me no end of groaning and cussing. Once I saw that plastic I thought, "I have one of those". Sure enough it worked like a charn an in couple minutes the job was done. I thank you and so does my wife.
Hello William;
I am glad it worked out for you and congrats on the repair!
That plastic tool is worth its weight in gold for sure!
Thanks for commenting and have a great day! Al
Great video! I had a very hard time getting my 1225 cartridge out. I yanked on the top with pliers but it would not budge. I wanted to be sure I could get it out first before purchasing a replacement so I did not have the little plastic tool that comes with the replacement and not sure it would have worked any way. I observed on the side of the stem of the cartridge, near the top, is a small hole on the side and using the biggest allen key I had that would fit the hole placed it in it. Under the allen key I placed my pliers under it, sideways, to give me something for leverage. I then pushed down on the allen key and to my surprise it popped up relatively easy. I had to work it some to get it all the way out. I bought a replacement at Lowes for $20 and replaced it and it works great. A little unorthodox method, I know, but it worked. Just be careful not to damage any other parts, especially the tabs of the old one in case it does not work for you. Though the new one comes already greased I added a little more.
XLTEE47 Home Depot honor free replacement on Meom cartridge when you brought in your old one !
@@stephenlam4529 I read on the Moen site that they will only replace your cartridge if you are the original owner.
We are the second owner of our house so I just bought a replacement on Ebay quite cheaply got a two pack for around $20.
Your comment about the Allen wrench helped me get my tub diverter out... did it a little differently because lack of space, but your Allen wrench idea got the ball rolling! Thanks! 7 year old comment for the win!
Thank you, your video helped me replace my first shower cartridge!! I learned about the difference between the 1222 and the 1225. I also would not have known about making sure the hot water had to be turned a certain way.
Hello Nancy,
You're welcome!
Glad everything worked out for you!
Congrats on the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thanks for the little tool info! I have the 1225 and replaced it before covid but it has leaked (hot side) ever since so we keep the hot water off until we use the faucet. I have another cartridge and this week I am going to pull it again and replace it hoping the "barrel" is not scratched and I can solve my problem.
I didn’t find this video until after I replaced the cartridge. First I had no idea that it was a Moen, since there are no markings anywhere on the outside. Then it took 1/2 hour of prying, pulling, and yanking to remove the old cartridge. I took it to Home Depot and they were no help identifying it. The old cartridge had a number 12801 stamped on it. I found that same number stamped on the 1225 cartridge. The new cartridge included the plastic tool that I needed to remove the old one. This job was a big PITA!
Hello Barack Blows,
The cartridge can be difficult to remove for sure. I have heard of people standing on top of their countertop trying to pull the cartridge out. Turing it back and forth makes all the difference in the world when it comes to removing it.
I am glad to hear you got the repair done. Congrats!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Very informative!
Hello Greg;
I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Thanks for commenting and best of luck in 2015! Al
Happy and a Healthy New Year
Thanks Greg!
Take care! Al
Thank you. It worked.
Hello Henry-gb8cl,
You're welcome!
I am glad everything worked out for you!
Congrats on the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
@MrUltraworld Hello there;
If I were you I would remove the aerator and see what your water flow is like. Even though your spray seems to have pressure; the water goes threw very small holes and it could seem like there is lots of water.
I would first try this and clean the inside of the aerator and reinstall it on the faucet.
Let me know how you got along.
Thanks for commenting and drop me a message!!! Al
Thanks! Great video!
+Jeff Gilmore
You are more than welcome!
Hopefully it will help with any future repairs you may make on a Moen faucet.
Thanks for the kind words and enjoy your weekend! Al
I am going to try and change the 1225 today, I hope it comes out easy :) Thanks again!
Jeff Gilmore
You're welcome!
Hope it goes well for you! Al
The old cartridge came out easily and the repair was a success. As I was walking out of the bathroom I noticed the sink faucet was streaming a leak too! So I went back to the Hardware store and bought the exact same 1225, that went twice as fast! I had to turn the water off at the street because the gate valve feeding the house will not shut off all the way. When you turn the handle all the way in it leaks from the stem. Open it does not leak, so I have some time to figure this one out.. Thanks again!
Jeff Gilmore
You are more than welcome!
Glad both repairs went well for you!
The valve is probably not used that often so that is very common.
If it is a gate valve, there is a good possibility that the packing nut may have to be tightened on it. Or it could also be the o-ring on the stem. One or the other. Nice to be able to turn it off at the street.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
thank you, thank you, thank you!
Interestingly informative, thanks for posting this. I'm off to find a Moen bathroom faucet!
Hello nogovannut9386,
You're welcome!
I am a big Moen fan myself. Great product!
Hopefully it helps with any future projects!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Except they make the part that actually connects the handle to the cartridge out of cheap plastic that breaks once the cartridge becomes a little sticky.
All that metal let down by a 2 cent plastic part.
Thanks for sharing.
Hello bill connelly,
You're welcome!
Hopefully the repair goes well for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
video over 3 years ago, but still a goodie. it helped clarify whether i needed the puller, since posts on other sites tried to scare people into buying it. the only mistake i made was forcing the cartridge in and breaking the o-ring, but the second one i bought went in well. no leaks.
Hello Michael;
Thanks for the kind words!
Congrats on the repair!
You have to be a little careful when installing the cartridge as the o-rings can get nipped.
I personally don't own a puller. The plastic tool works on most of them. Once they begin to turn; you can usually remove them with a set of channels or pliers.
If you call Moen; they will mail you a free cartridge at no charge directly and mail it to your home. Just tell them what type it is and when it was installed. They are an excellent company and have a great warranty.
Thanks for commenting and have a great week! Al
Thank you very much,very helpful,Thanks
Hello DavidTermini,
You're welcome!
Great to hear it came in handy!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Hello DavidTermini,
You're welcome!
Glad to hear it came in handy!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
thank you The old kid888 and thank you you tube. I got er done. No way could have done it without ya.
Hello Randy,
You're welcome!
I am glad everything worked out for you!
Congrats on the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
Thank You so much!!!
Hello distantport,
You're welcome!
Hopefully it helped with your repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Thank you!
Hello balderdashery G;
You are more then welcome!
Thanks for commenting and best of luck with any future projects! Al
Hello DAKaasa; It doesn't matter,,,girl or boy when it comes to the trade. Girls are just as capable as boys. Big thing to check for with the posi is to make sure the H and C are at the top and you are all set. I hope you get along well with the repair. When you get a chance; leave a message on your repair. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! G. L. Al
It helps to know that Moen's faucet handles require a 7/64 allen(hex) wrench, a size NOT included in many sets. Less than a dollar. Buy one before you drive yourself nuts.
Hello Candace Hackett Shively,
So very true! LOL!
No need of of doing that for the sake of a buck.
Thanks for commenting and I appreciate your input! Al
Candace Hackett Shively it's TOO LATE!
they told me on the phone it'd just come right off...obviously I was talking handles, she was talking cartridge.
Thanks soooooooo much!
You should make a video that says that one thing whilst showing the tool.
whatta time-saver.
I just bought another set trying to figure out the correct size. I'm so glad I came across your comment! The set definitely did not include a 7/64.
Candace Hackett Shively womanly attention to detail. :)
Great tip, Candace. A word of caution, though - not all Moen faucets use the same size, even if the faucets look identical.
I have two Moen Monticello single handle bath/shower faucets purchased about 10 years apart. They are the exact same model. They appear identical on the outside and they both use the 1225 cartridge, but there are quite a few internal differences.
Regarding the handle set screw, the newer one, installed c. 2009, uses the 7/64 hex as you say. The older one installed c. 2000 uses a 3/32 hex set screw.
The older faucet was really getting hard to operate, so I decided to give it a tune-up. I had no problem finding the right size hex wrench and removing the handle.
Of course only after I changed the cartridge on the older one did I notice that the newer faucet had already lost a lot of the easy operation (silky feel) that the rejuvenated older faucet has. But initially I was stumped at how to remove the handle of the newer faucet. I went through all my standard and metric hex wrenches and it turned out I had nothing that fit. As you suggest, I was close to the point of going nuts, especially since I knew what size I used on the other "identical" faucet. I had to make a trip to the hardware store to buy another set that included the 7/64 hex wrench, and that was the ticket on the newer faucet.
Another difference is the metal sleeve that covers the brass cartridge housing. On the newer faucet, you can slide it right out without removing the escutcheon (as shown in the pictorial Moen directions that come with the replacement cartridge). On the older faucet, that piece has two flared-out tabs that prevent removal of the sleeve without first removing he escutcheon. I should have ground them off before re-assembly. I see no purpose for them other than to make disassembly more difficult.
Another tip I'll share. It was not possible to remove either cartridge initially, nor even to turn it with the provided tool. The cartridges were stuck so tightly that the plastic tool would walk right out of the engagement without budging the cartridge. I saw another video in which a person used a needle nose pliers to initially budge the cartridge a little bit, but even that trick would not move it. So I began spraying white vinegar and allowing it to soak in and do its thing on the mineral deposits. I kept spraying every couple hours. After a day or so of waiting in each case, I tried again and was able to begin turning and then eventually remove the cartridges. Maybe I should just resign to re-lubricating or replacing them on a maintenance basis every few years. I recall replacing cartridges on other Moen faucets in my house (the kitchen faucet plus the one that was originally in the master bath), but I never had this degree of trouble removing an old cartridge. Looks like it's time to replace my water softener!
One other thing. Both of my bathroom faucets include the built-in stop valves. I think the versions that include the stop valves cost about $10-20 extra when I bought them. It sounded like a good idea. But when it came time to use them, I was barely able to get them to turn on the 2009 vintage faucet. They would not budge on the 2000 faucet. It's a nice idea if they would work. I probably ruined them because of a faulty water softener.
great advice
Hello Jim,
Hopefully the repair goes well for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your weekend! Al
nothing but problems but thanks anyway hahaha
I used the little white tool and it was useless. My 16-17 year old Moen 1222 cartridge did not want to come out of the housing. I had to buy the Moen positemp cartridge puller from Home Depot and even then it was a chore. Put it back in with silicone plumbing lube. Hopefully won't need to replace it again.
hello PriestPhotios; This happens from time to time with the new cartridge. I believe they over lube them and just the weight of the handle is enough to shut them off. You can either exchange that one for another new cartridge or give it a little time and it will stiffen up and you will need to use the handle to shut it off. Sorry for youe troubles and best of luck! Al
Thank you sir
Hello George D,
You're welcome!
Hopefully it helps with your project!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
After watching your video and installing my 1225 cartridge, I honestly think the tool is more for aligning the two plastic tabs vertically rather than use as a removal tool. It is a bugger to install the clip if the body is inserted off just a little bit and the tool can help rotate it in place. Hope this is helpful to someone.
I just took out one that was never used and tried to put it back in. It would not go in far enough to get the pin back on. Is the trick to keep wiggling it?
I have another handle just above that controls the water flow on and off as well as between 2 showerheads. When I replaced the cartridge on the lower handle the water now also turns off when turned fully towards cold, whereas before it only turned to control water temperature.
I don't really know if Moen is best or not. But for sure they have the best customer service. Amazing, really. As the parts fail on my old Moen faucets they just keep sending me replacement parts, and they pay for everything. I just have to call and explain my problem. That will keep me buying Moen forever I guess.
Guam Vet Agree ! At least Moen realized there is a problem with the 1225B. Lifetime warranty is offer. Shouldn't they replace it with a improved cartridge to solve the issue ?!?
Thanks so much, my single-handle ~2015 Moen shower faucet was removed with the help of someone pulling the shaft while I twisted the cartridge back and forth around an ~30 degree range, think, twisting from 3 O’Clock to 5 O’Clock repeatedly.
Otherwise, it would not come out...
Hello Kevlar Shanahan,
You're welcome!
You're are absolutely correct! If you don't turn the cartridge before you try and pull it out; you will definitely have your hands full as you probably know. I have heard of people actually standing on counter tops trying to remove the cartridge. Turning the cartridge is key!
Congrats on the repair!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
I replaced my shower because it was leaking when it was apparently off.. When I pulled it it was the one on the right the one with the clear view.. It is still leaking after replacing it.. Why is it still leaking if I put it exactly the way the other one was.. Please advice how I can fix the leak with the new replacement cartridge.. Thank You and that is a awesome explanation of the tools to use..
i just replaced mine last night on my shower. I did all this and it was still unbelievably hard to pull out. My concern was of pulling the wall down ( that was how hard I was pulling) . Not very happy with the water pressure. Is there a replacement cartridge for this 1222b from someone other than Moen that will give a person more water pressure? I know you say how great this faucet is but with the low pressure and how hard it was to replace I will never buy another one.
I am about to fix the posi one. I am scared! (Thanks fer tha vid, we are going to use it!
We've just replaced a Moen 1225B cartridge in our stand up shower successfully. We thought by doing so it would fix the problem of only getting hot water out of the shower head. But........the problem still exists. The shower does not produce cold water. This is a secondary shower only used when the grand kids or guests come to visit. Can you suggest a home repair before we have to call in a plumber. Thanks so much!
I have used a wooden laundry pin (for hanging laundry on a clothes line) as a substitute for plastic tool. I had no idea what brand of faucet I had , so needed to remove it before I could purchase a replacement.
Hello Linda,
That what is called thinking outside the box!
Congrats on that!
Hopefully the repair went well for you!
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Hello kebebos;
You are more then welcome!
Thanks for the kind words! I am glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for commenting and best of luck with the repair! Al
@mikeplantamura Hello Mike;
If you have to pull the handle out to allow the water to flow and then turn it to the right for cold and left for hot; you will need the 1225B cartridge.
The bigger of the 2 cartridges does not pull out and is the 1222B cartridge.
Best of luck and thanks for your comments!! Al
TheOldkid888 in
That piece of info right there is worth it's weight in gold since Moen can't be bothered to effing identify anything or label it, and their customer service is worse than the DMV. If it actually were guaranteed for life, I wouldn't be replacing it now, would I? I called Moen and they had the balls to tell me their product shouldn't be used in a hard water environment with lots of build up. I didn't put it in, I'm just the jackass trying to fix it.
Thanks so much for posting all of your videos! I was successful in replacing the 1225 cartridge in my Moen Adler Lavatory Faucet, but when I replaced the handle [this is the acrylic round handle which they call low profile], it keeps spinning around in a 360 degree angle. I tightened down the screw well that keeps the handle on, but I can't figure out why the handle won't stop at the usual 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock positions like it use to do. The faucet works well and does not leak at all now. Please let me know if you have a fix for this. Thanks again, Mitch.
On mine the metal sleeve works with the handle to stop it from turning. did you remember to put in the metal sleeve that goes between the overall valve assembly and the handle?
@@kevinyork4757 good call. I think it's called the stop pipe. Youll want to save that when replacing just the cartridge.
Hi, thanks for the great video to help me confirm that I bought the wrong cartridge. The posi temp is too wide and the plastic tool won't fit over the cartrige in the faucet.
Hello bethperrotta,
You're welcome!
Unfortunately they don't fit.
The posi-temp cartridge (1222) is only for the more recent bath/shower faucet. The 1225 will fit all single lever sink faucets.
Thanks for commenting and hopefully the repair goes well for you! Al
Nice short video, right to the point. Thanks very helpful. I got the replacement cartridge at Home Depot for free simply by asking. Didn't even have the old cartridge with me.
Hello Randy,
you are more than welcome!
Nice to get the cartridge for free. Most hardware and big box stores do that.
Thanks for commenting and good luck with the repair! Al
"We" just had to replace the plastic handle! However, the first handle broke inside, trying to put it on, and on second try, (which we agonized and pondered over for quite awhile) my boyfriend just rotated the thing clockwise, once, then the handle fit on nicely. I think the 2 handles were 8 bucks each, but beats the 40 dollar fix! 3 days without a shower, sucked! Thanks for the helpful video, *Oldkid :o)
About 2 years after installing a 1225 cartridge our single handle Moen (7800) kitchen faucet has become harder to lift up and down. Any advise?
Thanks for the video...Nothing like On the Job training experience.
I agree that Moen faucets are great. However, the last time I called them for a replacement cartridge they told me the lifetime guarantee is only for the original purchaser of the home. Since the average person stays in their house for about 7 years that is your guarantee.
Hello Norm475,
They are a good product. I am their biggest fan. No kick back either...strange....
The warranty is void if you didn't make the initial purchase. I have heard of that before. I didn't realize that was the average time spent living in a home.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al
Just recently bought and replaced my Moen cartridge and I bought that "T" looking stem wrench tool to pull it out. I threw that plastic away because I thought it was just for the packaging... *face palm* But any way, my faucet is leaking again, so I'm about to take it all off and try to install it all again to see if maybe I did something wrong. :-/ Great videos!
+lovelylouro
You installed a 1225 cartridge.
Sorry about the plastic tool situation. The face palm was a funny comment. Probably not to you, but I can picture it happening. The instructions don't have the plastic any where with the new cartridge. Figured that one out myself many moons ago.
You may have got a bad cartridge. Very rare, but it does happen. Give the company a call; 1-800 number, explain your situation and they should send you one in the mail free of charge. Excellent to deal with.
Thanks for commenting and let me know how you get along....Al
Thank you for responding. Seems I hadn't tightened up the actual handle (plastic-crystal knob) on right and it was causing all sorts of trouble. Luckily, since it was just the handle, after I put everything back together, problem solved. Feel pretty dumb, but I had never attempted something like installing a cartridge before. Live and learn. Have a good one.
lovelylouro
You are more than welcome!
Nice to get it repaired regardless of how much fine tuning you had to do. Congrats on that!
Day not learned is a day wasted.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your week! Al