Dry Fire Laser Training: Mantis Laser Academy Training System
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- For dry fire laser training, from the app to the targets, the Laser Academy Training System provides the most bang for the buck. Boasting more drills and modes than the competition, you can create a training regimen that best fits your goals, without sessions becoming stale. Interactive and engaging, including competitive, multi-shooter drills, Laser Academy brings the shooting range into the comfort of your home.
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I bought this, and have set up virtual targets on a short throw projector. Works great with the app!
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this Laser Training Academy System. It's as much FUN as it is great Training! Highly recommended!
This would be out of this world if you manage to assimilate projector/screen moving targets and/or various scenarios with actual real people on the footage and all that combined with mantis laser. Imagine that... Different scenarios, different moving/running/concealed targets... Wow... Like a real thing 👌👍
Cool system! I just received my X10 set as well and love it. Just ordered the Laser Academy system, and will pick up a Blackbeard and some other goodies soon.
I echo other commenters, requesting integration between the X series and the Laser Academy. Evolving the systems into an integrated ecosystem would be icing on the cake!
Another feature request would be a "Drill-Builder" component, for say... designing stages for IDPA, IPSC, USPSA, etc. and even be able to share them with the Mantis user community. I get it, that it would be difficult (not impossible) to capture the shoot & move aspect of action pistol sports, but some static stages, like the standards or qualifier stages would be highly useful and allow room for the system to grow indefinitely. This would be a way for the community to take some of the load off of the devs, that could spend less time programming drills, and more time adding or enhancing product functionality. This also encourages the community to do a lot of your marketing for you. ;-)
Mine just arrived. Easy setup and anxious to see how much I can improve
I love your products! Thank you for brining us such useful training solutions. Couldn't ask for anything better during the live ammo shortage.
Can't wait to get this. Just told my wife I want this for Christmas. Next I want the x10!
Cool idea but the issue is having to rack the slide with each shot. By training this way, you are creating muscle memory with shooting outside of this. Solve that and I’m in.
If that’s the case… You don’t need to own a gun… 😂😂😂😂😂 You’re extremely behind mentally
It depends on the gun. With KMR L-02 Orca I can just use the hammer
Have had this since it came out. Love it! Very intuitive and easy to use and set up. I use 2 devices and use my X10 on my iPod and my phone on the laser app. Also like the fact I can use my own targets with the “control” target to run the app. Keep up the great work Mantis Team!!! 💯🎯🔫👍🏼👊🏼
Thank you very much for the feedback Ron! We're glad you're enjoying training with our products so much!
This is super cool! I’m using at home, it’s great
Thank you for the valuable information!!!
As always; great products from you guys!
Having one app for the x10 and Laser Academy would be out of this world though 🥳
I think it's an outstanding product and thank you
I just set my system up. Love it! Since it’s being suggested so much I’m sure you guys will combine everything in one app to allow use of laser and X10. For now I will just run the apps on separate devices.
I purchased a double/single hammer fired pistol (Taurus PC3). Fewer out there these days, but I like the safety aspect and I can fire as many shots as I like w/o having to re-cock or activate the slide. This is a great tool for getting better and having fun.
told my wife this is the only thing i want for christmas haha
where i live in idaho there aren't any indoor ranges and it gets balls cold and snowy outside. now i can spend winter staying sharp
I just got my Mantis X10 and had previously been dryfiring with a laser. I just went in and was checking out the Laser Academy. As others have said it would be great to be able to integrate the 2. I love all the extra info I get with the Mantis over just using a laser but It would be nice to be able to see an approximation of where we are shooting not just our technique. Before I got my Mantis X10 I would rarely dryfire with the laser. Now I am training daily but also find myself looking for where my laser hits. I also have a Blackbeard coming in soon.
Whats a blackbeard?
@@bruce-bruce7975 Mantis Blackbeard is used in an AR-15 to reset the trigger when dryfiring. You replace the bcg with the Blackbeard bolt and it has a battery similar to a magazine that inserts in the mag well. You can get them with or with a laser. When you pull the trigger it will reset it so you can pull trigger again without having to pull the charging handle to reset the trigger
you cannot just use the manti s X module attached and coupled with another phone/pad?!?
@@lucianomicale1099 that is what I do now.
I just got the Blackbeard and it feels awesome. I haven't used it with the Academy yet but man, I'm looking forward to running drills.
Long time no talk to...
It’s been 4 years LOL...
I’m ready to get a few kits! I’m not as poor anymore! Hopefully you remember coming to Cleveland!
I thought racking the slide would be annoying but its not. Getting more practice time in at home. I like this product.
great to hear that! Train on.
Just picked up several of the laser cartridges and the target pack! (I already have a tripod and such for my own channel’s videos, so figured I’d avoid the redundancy. Wish the pro app was a little cheaper, but if it does what it’s supposed to, I’ll be quite happy with it
I just received mine today! Love it, but how can I use custom targets?
Is there any way of using the laser bullet without racking in between?
Let's suppose I want to train as with normal bullets the Mozambique drill: 2 to the body, one to the head. Unless my gun is jammed or empty ;-) I luckily do not have to rack it every time I want to shoot.
Is this possible with the laser bullets as well?
Had to get a laser from a third party, as I needed 300 blackout, but I’ll be using the app, buying a Blackbeard and possibly getting the kit in .45 acp as well. Might just buy the pro IAP though. Haven’t decided.
Couldn’t you auto calculate and adjust for the sight over bore if you got the sight height, the zero distance, and the shooting distance? This would be an amazing feature.
Very well done and it sold me! I ordered 2 std kits. What about a warranty?
Got this system a couple weeks ago, I really like it but I would love to see some more 2 person drills, even a simple best score of 10 shots for example. It seems like there is a lot of potential in the app to make this a fun system for the family to use together.
Laser Academy will continue to grow and develop as time goes on. We will be adding additional drills in the future. Keep an eye out for updates!
+ 1 of CJs comment.
Great !
Hi. I didn't realize you could do laser too. I've never used a part like that for firing!
If you guys make a dry fire mag that resets the trigger while also allowing the use of the laser that would be an absolute game-changer. I'm glad I read your FAQ because I almost bought the dryfiremag to compliment this kit because I thought it would be great to be able to keep shooting without having to re-rack the gun after every shot.
Isn’t that what their Blackbeard system does?
@@dennisceklovsky2948 That's for AR's, I'm talking about pistols.
@@Heisenberg618 ok, my mistake. In fact I was just watching a review on the laser academy and I was wondering that myself. And I see you can’t by those lasers as a stand-alone in any rifle calibers, but when you buy the laser academy, .223/5.56 is an option. I’m guessing the Blackbeard basically solves that?
@@dennisceklovsky2948 Forgot to mention that I emailed Mantis about this and asked if they had anything in the works for a device that will reset the firing pin while also allowing the laser to function and they told me they are working on “something special”. So I can’t wait! :-)
@@Heisenberg618 excellent! Thanks for the info! 🙌🏻
I am interested on this laser kit. Given the size of the targets that can be printed or ordered, what is the realistic distance to shoot at the targets?
An annoying message to buy mantis target is in the way when using n9nmantis targets. But very generous of mantis to provide free download of their targets, thank you
Just brought the kit.. do u leave mag in out hve 2 take it out .. no ammo in it of course 👍
Is it in the mean while possible to use the MantisX and laser academy together or do I have to use two devices?
Is it possible to use the Mantis Laser with an Laser Ammo Reset Trigger System for Glock?
I wish you would build an under barrel adapter to fit my 2011 system. Am Magazin makes no sense for wechsel. I would like to practice live drill drills
Just got the mantis academy my control target was working for the first 10 minutes but then it stopped working. Tried adjusting the lighting and placement of the camera everything is there a target box I have to place over the control target?
I have the blackbeard and the cool fire trainer for my p320 will the cool fire trainer work with this training system
Not having much success with the camera recognizing the targets. Is there a certain distance the camera has to be from the targets? I’m seeing a lot of red blurring lines as the camera struggles to acquire the target. Also the targets recv’d seem smaller than those shown in the video.
Are you using the small targets or the larger targets? Thank you.
Is it possible to turn off the gun sound effects for if I wanted to practice during the evening?
Is there a max distance i can yse this from? So far not keen on 3 or 4 feet.
Does this work with IR and red lasers?
is there any non-firearm (can be even pink colored, doesn't matter) that can use this conversion?
you guys need to make it so you don;t have to rack the gun after every shot. that could potentially teach the shooter a bad habit. If not for that issue I would have ordered it. I'll keep my eye out for the before mentioned improvement.
How about an explanation of the Laser Academy targets? I think I understand the object of the HUNT target, but I was expecting the app to recognize the target and maybe call out the color, shape, and # for me to find and hit within a certain time to score. Doesn’t seem to work that way. The bullseye targets are no brainers, not sure what the other targets are for if they all do essentially the same thing.
We are developing more drills that we will add to the Laser Academy app in the future. These targets will be used in some of those drills.
@@MantisX It would be nice to see video instructions to each drill, mode and target. May be with average timing and stats as a goal. Thank you!
Ever thought about mantix x with a Vr interface? Virtual environment immersion simulations and coaching would be unreal .
That would actually be pretty bad ass.
this has been out of stock for a bit. when are you going to be able to send more out and so that we can order the starter kit-$99 training kit?
Can you use this with the Mantis X10 Elite?
Does it comes to Android devices?. I am from Argentina, do you send it to Argentina?. Thanks in advance...
Does this work with Dry fire mag?
Being in the production industry I'm usually very critical of promotion videos.
This spokesman is good and the editor did a great job.
You have a great promotion video
how far away can you be to shoot with this system?
Need an updated video because I got a lot more on my standard kit lol
Nice! Extra bonuses!
Can you actually do an example of setting the ballistic offset to say mimic 15 yards. Does that take into account the optic mounted or is it just taking into account the distance? Saying it can do it and showing how are two very different things, thanks. I hope you can make videos of this great product.
Thanks for your feedback.
What does the remote on the standard tripod control. I've seen a bunch of un boxing videos but not once has someone mentioned what this does.
Also has anyone else had an impossible time getting the .380 Laser loaded?
The remote is only used to control the volume of your phone. There is nothing built in to the Laser Academy app that uses the remote that comes with the large tripod.
I want to buy the mantis X3. But it has been out of stock indefinitely. No telling when it will become available.
How do you determine ballistic offset of a specific rds mounted on whatever firearm one may be using?
The app has a calibrate feature where you set your desired point of aim, shoot that spot a few times, and then it calculates the offset for you automatically. You have to do that if you change guns or move further from the spot you calibrated at. It takes about 30 seconds or so, so you can switch between an AR with the blackboard and your carry gun pretty quickly.
Only once, very 1st time have I been able to get this system to work when I was shooting from 7 yards. After that, no joy. Needs much more documentation.
Please reach out to us at Support@MantisX.com and we'd be happy to help you troubleshoot and issues you may have.
Does your gun eject a casing on trigger reset if so you have to have a lot of the bullets are they expensive
@KennethFearrington No, the Pink Rhino laser cartridges do not get ejected when racking the slide.
I got this Mantis kit 3 months ago & still cannot get it set up. I've reached out to support and they have been responsive. However my cartridge does not sit in my firearm well. Also, have not received an answer to confirming if my (empty) magazine must be in my firearm.
Please reach out to us via email, chat or phone and we'll be happy to help you further.
Hi guys! Great product i owned it 3 weeks ago. Very great product. I have a question: why sometimes a green line appears next to the point of impact? Thanks!
That indicates drift after you fired the shot. Basically, you were moving when you broke the shot.
As @The Warrior Solution mentioned, the green line indicates movement during that shot while the laser was being projected on the target.
@@MantisX thank you!
What’s the difference with this and mantis X? This just has a laser?
Question:
My MP 2.0 Sheild EZ 9mm is not actually a striker fire but acts like one. It is an internal hammer fired gun
Do you still have to rack the slide each time?
yes, you would have to reset each time.
Can’t seem to find the answer I’m looking for, so let me ask you since I noticed it while you were using the 10x Laser Academy. How did you get the sound of the gunshot when you pulled the trigger? I have not found an option for that. Thanks ahead of time.
When using Laser Academy, it will make this sound by default as long as you have sound enabled on your phone. When using the Mantis X10 Elite, you have to enable those sounds manually.
If you're having issues with this, please reach out to us at Support@MantisX.com, and we are happy to help.
@@MantisX , thanks.
So, are you chambering each shot? Did I hear something hit the floor, but I never saw a casing discharge after each fire. I’m confused. But curious. Thanks. Keith O
The Pink Rhino Laser Training Cartridge that comes in the kit is designed to stay in the chamber between shots. The sounds you're hearing are coming from the app.
@@MantisX thank you for such a quick response and I like this system. Going to be getting one.
Yeah, that was my question , too. I figured the laser cartridge would stay in the chamber but I thought you had dummy rounds in your magazine. Can you eliminate the sound of the shells hitting the floor or will that also disable the shot fired sound because you're turning off the sound on your phone completely? By the way I'm a long time user of the Mantis x original system and it's the best dry fire system I know until I get my new laser kit of course :)
Are there any diagnostics on your shooting with this system, i.e. pulling to the left or right, snapping trigger, etc? Please advise.
The X10 and X3 do that
Looks great, but can you use it simultaneously with the Mantis X10?
They do not communicate with each other. If you have two devices you can use both. One per device. At this time they don’t work within a single app.
I’ve been hoping for the same thing! Right now it requires two devices (one for X10, one for Laser) but it sure would be awesome if they could combine them.
Can you do a distance further away then you did from the targets or you need to recalibrate each time for a particular distance?
Any distance is fine
Has the need to manually rack the pistol been solved with any additional products to go along with this?
Sorry, not at this time.
Hello, In comparison to other dry fire systems, I do hear in your video an actual shooting sound every time you fire a shot. Is that a sound the app creates and the sound goes through the phone speakers?
It's a sound that the app creates. It's optional, you don't have to have the sound.
Has anyone been able to get this to work outside in daylight? We cannot get the camera to adjust to see the targets unless it's inside the house.
Mine doesn't even work inside the house.
question before I purchase can the shot sound be muted if I need to do so. Practicing in my apartment dont want to scare neighbors
Yes, it can be muted!
Can you use the Rogers TRT Tap Rack with the Laser Academy?
Yes, you can use a TRT with a laser bullet at the same time.
Does it work on California guns? How do you keep the slide from locking back everytime? Do I need a special magazine to keep this from happening?
Yes, Laser Academy will work with California compliant guns.
To keep the slide from locking back, we recommend using our TRT trainers, available here: mantisx.com/collections/all-items/products/trt-tap-rack-dry-fire-safety-training-aid-9mm-40-cal-pistol-magazine-dummy-ammo-3-pack
Yes it works with California guns. Just take the spring and follower out of a magazine.
I’d love to buy this as there is an ammo shortage. But I’m wondering, once I invest in the system, how much is it from there? Do you have to keep buying the bullets, or are they good for a long time? How long does one bullet last, appx?
It varies from gun to gun. Some guns are more aggressive and will poke holes in the end cap much quicker than others. In general, you would need to replace the batteries and end cap occasionally.
How many shots are there per laser bullet?
Can you set the laser bullet to keep it lit up more in a target?
There are three LR626 watch batteries in the laser bullet that last for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of shots. As far as setting it to stay lit longer, that isn't currently possible. The laser bullet works from a pressure-sensitive button on the back that is hit by your striker/firing pin.
Do you need an X2 or X3 to make this work or the Rhino laser insert?
The Laser Academy app is completely stand-alone from the Mantis X training system and app. The kit comes with the one Pink Rhino laser cartridge of your choice.
Is it possible to run the Mantis X10 and the Laser Academy split-screen on iPad?
If split screen is available, then yes it is!
Does it work with android phones? on the 223 laser cartridge do you have to rack everytime? do i still have to buy the blackbird system?
Yes, Laser Academy works on Android as well as Apple. If you have the .223 laser cartridge, you will have to rack the charging handle after each shot. Blackbeard will fix this problem. If you have the red or green Blackbeard it will work great with Laser Academy.
@@MantisX that was fun having your own firing range at home
Excellent customer service
Highly recommended
The targets seem awful small. Can you utilize any paper targets with this?
Only the smart targets
would be great if it had a NRA B8 size target
Thanks for the suggestion.
Where is the sound (gunshots, voice, shell ejection, etc.) coming from?
It's coming from the app.
I don't know how to use the tripod.
Buy a new one because those are too unstable for the program.
All jesting aside please verify which tripod you are referring, which phone mount, and if possible which part of the setup you're having problems with.
Can I use a SIRT Pistol with this Mantis Laser Academy❓️
I used Mantis Laser Academy tonight for the first time and it's great, but I didn't have to rack slide. I was still able to get off the next shot each time and the app registered the shot on the target. Is rack sliding needed for some other reason?
Sounds like you're using a double action pistol, is that correct? Is it being reset, then you are good to go.
@@MantisX Yep, it's a double action - a Taurus G2C. And it is resetting. Thanks for confirming!!
I don't see where (maybe I missed it) that you list distance. I don't want to train at 2 yds away. I want at least 7-8 in most cases.
You can set what distance you're training at in the app. You'll want your phone within 1-2 yards of the targets so that it gets a clear picture of the targets, but you can move back to 7-8 when training without issue.
how can you do rapid fire drills without having to rack the slide between shots?
Laser Academy is not meant for rapid fire.
When using more than one target it will only detect one at time and when it detects more the one the other target keeps going in and out of detection. Long story short it will only focus one one target at a time. I have had to reload the app twice in two days to get this to work
Laser Academy can recognize multiple targets at once. If you are still having issues with target detection, please reach out to us at Support@MantisX.com. We are happy to help.
Can this be hooked up to a blue tooth speaker?
I suppose you could hook up the phone to your bluetooth speaker.
Got the Academy as a gift with a .45 cartridge. Purchased additional .380 and 9mm brand new. None of the three cartridges worked. Hard to believe ALL the batteries were dead. After 2 hours messing with it, I returned the whole thing. Disappointed, to say the least.
I'm sorry you had an issue! Did you place the batteries in the right way? All the batteries are shipped brand new. We're happy to ship new batteries if there was an issue.
New iPhone, regular American home. Medium light, white walls. Software can't find targets. Wasted 2 hours. System is going back. It's deeply flawed. LOVE the X10 though.
is laser compatible with dry fire mag?
Unfortunately, it is not compatible. DryFire Mag does not engage the firing pin of your pistol, so it will not strike the Pink Rhino Laser cartridge primer.
Can this be used with air rifle as well? Air rifle should not be dry fired.
you mentioned apple. Does it also work with Android phones? I dont do apple....
Yes, it does!
I just received it ...and the laser cartridge isnt working ...I removed the battery cover as instructed ...but not light coming from the cartridge...any suggestions
Try changing the batteries around. If that doesn't work, try replacing the batteries. And if that does work, please contact customer support and let them know of the issue.
@@MantisX I went to the website and chatted with the help desk...I didn't know there were 3 batteries that had to be inserted into the cartridge....I found the other batteries....and it now works!!!...thank you!!!
@@tabasco1914 Glad to hear it!
Will it work with the MantisX2 ?
Y'all really need to make a semi auto system for the pistol
thanks for the suggestion
Please, someone explain to me how Google is NOT collecting all the data about shooters' location, caliber, accuracy, frequency, if the system involves an app?
Dude, if you have a phone with Google on it, they already have all your info. If your that worried, use an old phone that's not connected to a carrier and shut off location and WiFi to run your drills.
How do you make the laser bullet not eject everytime you rack the slide?
It's rimless.
@@Falconryder I don't understand, so that means it doesn't eject?
@@BenEverett1 Doesn't eject. Without a rim, there's nothing for the extractor to grab onto.
Will the unit work with revolvers
Yes
I bought the mobile kit tripod on its own and it fails to hold up my iphone 14 pro...had to tighten it extra hard and now the plastic that holds the ball joint has cracked...not good quality at all, if it cant hold up todays phones.