My mother was warning me against seed oils since the early eighties. She read medical journals, and she was saying much the same things that are said here. I observed ever increasing use of those seed oils throughout the eighties and nineties everywhere. They became difficult to avoid in most products. I generally ate butter and cooked with lard, and I remained slim and healthy while people kept telling me my diet was insane, and they got fat eating "health foods". Nevertheless, when someone would say Americans were fat pigs, I would defend them, saying it was industry that was pushing bad food everywhere and calling it healthy. Most people didn't have the education my mother had, and the time to read medical journals, which were saying the opposite of "US Dietary Guidelines", as the speaker here says. My mother would talk about how appalling it was that public information was the opposite of what the medical researchers were finding. (I've been ranting for decades that criminals in government and industry need to be tried for murder and executed.) None of these diseases needed to happen for the last couple of generations, at least.
@@southernyankee05 It sounds harsh, I know. But they know they do wrong - for generations they know it, and no one stops them. The watchdog agencies that also know and have a duty to stop them don't do their work. Bribery and criminal conspiracy have to be involved. Even attempted mass murder.
As a Greek, having grown up with olive oil only, I was always wary of the seed oils. Unfortunately nowadays everything is packed with seed oil. Even here in Greece, I have noticed a big change in our snacks, like potato chips. When I was growing up we mostly have domestic products that were using olive oil, nowadays everything is seed oil
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. Jason Fung, Ken Berry, Eric Berg, John Bergman, and last but not least Sten Ekberg!!!!! I have a pacemaker and had bypass surgery 7 years ago. Eating the seed oils because they were supposed to be healthy nearly killed me. All these drs have helped me get my health back.
When I lived at college and ate the cafeteria food, it was the first time in my life that I was exposed to seed oils on a daily basis. I couldn't even eat the sautéed vegetables without getting bloated. No matter what I ate, I was in constant pain and my weight skyrocketed
Why do Harvard, Penn, the American Heart Association, the World Health Organization, and other medical authorities continue to reccomend seed oils over animal fats? Because these seed oil refineries (ADM, Cargill, etc) are multi billion dollar businesses and wield TREMENDOUS political power. Michael Pollan addresses this deeply disturbing issue in his books.
The food industry (and not just see oil refiners, but meat and dairy industries too) make generous donations to all these health related non-profits. The latter rarely bite the hand that feeds them.
These government agencies is all about them, greed & power. America #1 unhealthy country when it comes to eating . I learned this 35 years ago.!!! LOTS of food in our country ...... junk food.
@@thefisherking78 I haven't read Pollan's book, but I thought he recommended "not much meat" and mostly plants. That would be good advice. There has been a long running debate since the 1970s over which fat is preferable (low saturated fat plant oils or high saturated animal fats), but more important I think is to keep the total fat in one's diet at a low level, probably 10 to 15%, with the lower end of this range probably being better. Ignoring Eskimos who live in an unusual environment (and did not have the excellent health that some high fat advocates claim), the diets of hunter gatherers were very low in fat simply because most wild plants and animals are low in fat. Even peasant farmers ate low fat diets for thousands of years because early livestock was quite lean, and most of their calories also came from grains or in some areas tubers. High fat and high animal protein cuisine were for millennia a luxury of the rich who were also widely observed to suffer worse health as a result. Both Plato and Aristotle mention this.
@@michaels4255 I've never heard of this observation that the wealthy suffered ill health. I heard they were historically taller than the poor until recently when the poor and middle class had wider access to foods other than grains. I guess I'll google it but did you read this in any particular book?
Dr. Chris Knobbe, more than any other voice in the past few years, has given the most articulate and well defended argument implicating seed oils in the etiology of so many diseases of Western civilization. I appreciate his contributions to the health space so much. He turned my thinking around regarding the cause of insulin resistance. Before listening to his presentation, on the Low Carb Down Under channel, I, along with many low carb practitioners, thought that insulin resistance was simply induced by too much and too frequent carb consumption. This overly simplistic model always had one problem. It really could not explain traditional populations, who for centuries ate high starch diets - sometimes at 70 to 80 percent of total calories - who were metabolically healthy. So it had to be something else. Dr. Knobbe, along with Drs. Cate Shanhan, Paul Saladino, and Michael Eades should be given so much credit for offering a new way of explaining metabolic disease.
As a former chef, in a fairly wide variety of styles of restaurant (from different cuisines to vastly different price points) I can confirm that every single restaurant from the delis to the fine dining will all have *something* cooked in/prepared with seed oils. Once you get to the fine dining though there is a lot more butter, lard and olive oil used but I can guarantee you if something is deep fried then it will be in canola oil. And 99% of mayos and oil based salad dressings will be cut with canola oil. So there is always a chance that you can get a dish with no seed oils in a fine dining restaurant but they're still present.
@@CorporateChairMassageTeam ~ Homemade mayonnaise is extremely easy to make with an immersion (stick) blender and you can control every ingredient. In my opinion, coconut oil makes the best.
So great to see someone NOT vilifying carbs! People who do ignore the fact that humans have been eating grains and carbs for centuries without being obese and disease-riddled, and healthy groups around the world today eat lots of good carbs while staying healthy. Humans keep pushing extremes. Balance is key.
There are no healthy carbs for humans. Carbs change microbiome in the mouth and we get cavities. If carbs were proper nutrition for humans we wouldn't have these teeth problems. Fats and protein don't cause dental problems.
The egyptians had all sorts of metabolic disease. Lifespan was so short you didnt die from them first. Until now. Metabolic disease evidence in human remains is traced back to the advent of agriculture
Absolutely LOVE this video content! Keto & IF works fantastically for me- just completed 4 years and TOTALLY sustainable! My PCP still hasn’t figured it out yet even though I told him exactly what I was doing. Got off all 17 Rx 2 1/2 years now. BTW I’m 66 and live in the USA where all poison processed foods are allowed -even promoted yet as safe. My diet is whole foods- nothing processed except aged cheeses (10 months >2 years) and the fermented kimchi /miso paste only from Japan. I fast two 24/hr in a month and have been stretching it to one 48hr fast/month. It’s so easy once you know how- absolutely no cravings & hunger is extremely temporary as I am fully fat adapted.
It's tragic that this information is known by so few. It is very easy to eat healthfully and it costs less when you stick to real food. Kudos on your life style.
@@kerrylattimore2684 personally I received no help from my doctors and learned all from the internet. It is really sad. Believe it or not but my religious beliefs as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses-digging and searching for substantiated truth made me a critical thinker. Apparently a very necessary tool for survival today as I use it in all phases of life. My generation was always taught to believe in what “experts” say ….no now I say “where’s your data” or show me the scriptures that prove what the Bible really says. Psalms 146:3 indicates a thinking person questions what authorities say by looking into proof from multiple sources and not what they quote which is usually biased material. With clinical trials one MUST look at a minimum of 2 criteria 1) who’s funding it 2) what data was rejected in the “run in period” Of course there can be outliers in studies or caveats that further define the results but perhaps not popular to disclose such as length of time or divisions of groups (male/female, ages, ethnicity, global location, culture, previous /current medical condition, pregnancy, etc). Truly if something is that important to you spending the time to research is worth it. In my case I I do pray thus invite Jehovah in my decision making.
@NOTREALLY HANKAARON If you look deeper, soaking removes most lectins and phytates. If you are eating a raw vegan diet that is balanced healthy, and long-term focussed you would be aware that you soak seeds and nuts with a brown outer before eating. You would also know not have a green smoothie packed with spinach every day. No panic - it is not hard. Not for raw vegans anyway :)
No wonder my keto diet has improved my health so much! One of the first things I did was educate myself on the importance of healthy fats. Since I was going to be fueling my body on 75% (of kcal) fats each day, I wanted to make sure I was choosing the highest quality fats available. I read labels religiously and have put many things back on the shelf because of the choice the manufacturers made when it came to oil content... type, not amount. I thoroughly agree with Chris Knobbe's perspective.
Bravo!!!! Another magnificent presentation!!! Dr. Knobbe saved my life!! He is without a doubt one of the most brilliant health and nutrition researchers of all time! AND, he walks the talk!! His tremendous health is an indication that he lives his life by what he has learned! Thank you SO much for sharing the truth about seed oils and the devastation they have on our health! You are my HERO and a treasure from God!! 💖🙏
Its all a money making scam. Seed oil industry including soybean production (90% of soybeans are crushed for oil), are multi billion dollar industries.
Weston A Price foundation has been saying this for years, too. Sally Fallon's "Nourishing Traditions" cookbook has this info and even more throughout the margins of the book. If it is not fermented (lacto fermented, not chemically fermented), it also inhibits your body's ability to process ALL proteins at a ratio of 1 tablespoon to 24 hours. Think about what this is doing to your meat, too.... Most livestock feed contains HUGE amounts of soy and corn (no, most meat animals do NOT eat these grains if given a choice) and up to 90% of soy and 95% of corn is GMO. (This is also part of the "cow fart" problem) Then realize it is literally in everything... FDA has allowed them to use as many names for soy as they can come up with - there are nearly 100 of them. It is used commercially as a non-stick (lecithin) in baked goods. Its also one of the top 10 food allergens globally. Given soy is grown on premium cropland, it is not even fit for a car engine. Rapeseed is better for biodiesel and grows on marginal soils. Despite the soy lobby and marketing association's claims - there is literally no decent use for soy ANYWHERE other than miso, natto and soy sauce. And then only prepared using traditional methods.
This is fantastic and a video I had been hoping for, because people listen harder to a Doctor. Dr. Berg, on UA-cam, is very helpful as to what to eat, whether you are on a particular diet or not. Dr. Berg, who is a Keto advocate, takes many issues into consideration, like the necessary nutrients and trace minerals we must consume in food or supplements. My husband is diabetic, blind, has profound neuropathy, high BP...for 3 1/2 years we have been on the Keto Diet, taking C8 oil and supplements, but no more drugs. His A1C went from 10.4 to 5.7, he has not fallen in 3 1/2 years and we both lost 40 lbs. EWG has the list of clean 15 and Dirty Dozen, for which foods you must buy organic. Thank goodness for Dr. Knobbe!
It's always fascinating looking at the vintage film footage and remarking how slim everyone is. But, in addition to seed oils, people were definitely eating less refined sugar. And they were more "mobile." There were books, like Pure White and Deadly, warning about the perils of refined sugar, long before anyone thought of worrying about seed oils.
It's both the sugar and the bad fats. It is easier to say all processed foods are bad for us. Just eat whole foods, cook them properly (make sourdough bread for example, not the one with instant yeast) and buy regeneratively farmed produce and at the farmers market to avoid chemically grown stuff.
For cooking with heat, I only use coconut oil, & occasionally, butter. For salad dressing & direct (spoonful) drinking, extra virgin olive oil & virgin coconut oil.
When my doc told me I had AMD, I was devastated, but have stopped it cold with supplements and whole, fresh, organic, free range. My eyesight has actually improved, and is near perfect at 73 years of age. With this new data, I can now further improve my “invisible health” and strength. I’ve gone from using bacon for flavor in my eggs to the beef fat left from making bone broth and pot roasts with clean beef…I just skim it and freeze it…great stuff! Now….if I could just find chickens raised without any grains…..
This actually explains the phenomena of raw fruitarian diets and why they seem to work for weight loss and improvement of health markers. It wasn’t so much the fruit but the absence of seed oils in the diet.
Thank you for sharing your truth with other people. Knowing that just speaking the truth these days makes one unpopular especially with Billion Dollar Corporations who have surpressed the information in collusion with medical Clinics known to people and are respected as authorities on all things concerning the health of the population. It is shameful that an honorable man incurs personal and economical risk to inform us. Once again, thank you.
37:47 It's a little dangerous to use vegetable oil production rather than consumption. It's likely that the percentage of production being consumed has gone down as we've found ways to use these oils in industrial uses, soaps, etc. over time.
The media and government virtiously quote "The Science" and shame anyone that tries to share a slightly nuanced opinion as dangerous misinformation. I have started to vigorously counter by explaining that scientifically speaking I am providing the missing information that is needed to fully have a discussion.
there is a misconception about science: Science is always at certain level or under certain condition which we may not know at a time. I believe there must be "science" behind bloodletting for treating fever.
Considering most people hospitalized, vaccinated or not, are obese, there is at least that link. Old and obese continue to be the highest true deaths too.
Sorry but do horses get fat on lush organic pasture? Do they develop a whole range of health conditions as a result? Do dogs get fat on grass fed Beef if they have far too much of it?
Dr. Knobbe: Off-screen voice: "You guys can leave and go on break if you don't give a shit about this." This is why it's so hard to help my friends here in America fix their dietary health. Attention span is zero. If it's not instantly gratifying, people tune out.
Cutting out as much seed oil from my diet as possible. Mayonnaise has 75-82% seed oil (use yogurt)......and I thought my tuna was heart healthy!! Thank you Dr. Knobbe for this essential and valuable information.
This is fab, thank you so much. This is likely why I have remained slender my whole life. I never bought into eating reduced fat. I have always loved a ton of saturated fat. But I do feel curious if sugar is going down in these graphs, arent toxic fake sweeteners also going up? Maybe those fake sweeteners also have some contribution to the US obesity, / cancers /CHD / AMD, etc since nature is so much wiser than most processed foods. What do you think, Chris Knobbe?
one of the BEST explanations of the emergence of chronic disease... In our lab we make, or model Rats for DM type 2 only by using an increasing amount of seed oil! (like 40% increase ) in their normal diet!!!! Crazy....
diabetes is absolutely exacerbated by sugar. I agree somewhat with his statement that carbs “aren’t the problem “. They may not be so bad directly but snacking all the time on low fiber high carb spikes blood sugar and, and along with fructose making livers fatty, causes diabetes. The omega 6 may contribute somewhat to diabetes but the main driver is fructose, high GI foods, and eating frequently. And all three of those factors are interrelated
I agree. Anything furthest from nature such as food with an imbalance of nutrients or extracted/refined products, messes with our biochemistry - contributing to metabolic diseases. (if we had to simplify it down) And sure, an unnatural sugary donut wont hurt once and a while, but that mindset is a recipe for slipping into food addiction and believing that donuts etc aren't a problem. im concerned that people just reject their health like this D: especially with all the food scarcity around. I like to begin with what all diet experts (whatever if they're vegan, carnivore etc) agree with.. and why controversially all diets when done right, work like they do. Just throwing out my thoughts🙂
See the latest video on "Diet Doctor" with several speakers - and see what Ben Bikmann says there. Acutally it seems that diabetes/insulin resistance is CAUSED by sugar, but LA makes it much much worse through it action on adipocytes...
Yeah I don't think he was talking about refined carbs or sugar when he said that since the example was a people who ate a ton of sweet taters... But the fact is because of how our food supply is right now, if you remove seed oils you're removing most refined carbs and visa versa... They're both bad.
@@sammcrae8892 Yes, it's amazing what they say. Coconut oil is 95% saturated fat and it's been used by people all their lives without a problem. They've had nothing else to eat in the equatorial islands.
@@sammcrae8892 Look for the why. Hard to find. As at other times the original evidence was faulty. When cholesterol blocking arteries was discovered they told us not to eat eggs one of most nutrient dense foods there is. They backtracked like they have now with fat/butter because they don't increase heart disease, just cholesterol which alone isn't dangerous. The calcium/cholesterol build up in arteries is caused by it 'fixing' inflammation. Inflammation is often caused by overconsuming inflammatory Omega 6 (seed oils). Ratio to anti-inflammatory Omega 3 should be 1:1. It's 26:1.
I use to spend hours trying to clean the hard yellow fat off the top of the oven fan. And this was just from the odd thing my husband cooked, as I ate almost no fat back then. 11 years of eating lots of real fat now. Butter, lard and tallow. Just an easy wipe. It is scary when I think about it now.
Great talk, and I really like the way he disproves other things to blame, such as sugar, that have increased in the diet. I'd like to see it tied in together with Dr. Michael Eades's study of the ancient Egyptians and their health problems, and whether that can also be tied to their seed oil use. And one other question I have it whether there is any mitigating factor on the detriment of the seed oils when they are consumed as part of the nuts/seeds themselves; in other words, is it just as bad to get them from eating lots of nuts, or is there any mitigating factor, such as the fiber in fruits making the sugar less harmful?
This is just my personal opinion, but I think that it's likely that nuts (and to a lesser extent seeds....I mean there's cotton seed oil but I don't think that we should be eating cotton seeds) can be healthy if they aren't rancid. Same with their cold-pressed oils. I've gotten locally produced cold pressed canola, walnut and hazelnut oil and they're genuinely delicious. But once they go rancid they're pretty foul. It's the industrial, heated, denatured and then deodorized (to hide the fact that they've gone rancid) oils that are likely to cause damage. Though at the same time I doubt it's healthy to eat pounds of nuts a day or guzzle down their oils. We're legitimately made to eat as much variety as possible to avoid the issues that over consumption of one thing causes.
@@moderncontemplative8227 another thought is you'd have to eat a lot of walnuts to equal what you use in say a salad w a vinegar. So smaller anounts consumed from source of nuts. Variety always good to use also. I use olive unheated and coconut fir my fried chicken in winter. *Not deep fat fried, pan fried low heat. Keep low (burner on 3 when chix cold turn get warm go to 2) to prevent change from high heat. Its org, not processed, so hard at room temp. I known itz an MCT.
@@OatmealTheCrazy I'm totally fine with non-laboratory modification of plants. While a lot of people want to shriek about how awful either plant or animal foods are I am firmly in the omnivore camp and I think anything we can do to make both our plant and animal foods better is absolutely awesome 😊 We've also genetically modified the animals we eat and I don't see many people talking about how we've bred cows and chickens to put on more meat or pigs to have less fat. We've been tinkering with our food sources since probably before we had fire so I don't see the problem.
@@mishaanton5436 If you're meaning calorically speaking for walnuts vs walnut oil, then yeah sure there's a lot more calories in the oil. But there's always more calories in pure oil. I've never seen MCT oil that's solid at room temperature. Coconut oil, sure. But pure MCT oil is a refined product. Cooking with coconut oil can certainly be a good option sometimes and I never said anything about only using one oil rather than a variety. But I was responding to someone talking about non-industrially processed liquid oils that aren't olive oil, so I'm not sure why you're bringing up cooking with solid coconut oil 🤔
They don't recommend them because they lower cholesterol. That's just what they tell us.They recommend them because a sick population is easier to control and profit from.
@@steakovercake3986 Pretty much except peanut oil hasn’t been processed and damaged as much as the bottled cooking oils. It still has more PUFA than I would like.
at least 50 years of his life he didnt. the seed oil explosion began in 1960s. and what seed oils did he eat afterwards? olive oil , acovado oil, coconut oil can be fine. also it makes a difference if you introduce a bad diet late in life when u had good food in your first decades as the other way around.
Question…I have watched a few of the videos and I haven’t heard this addressed yet, after stopping or avoiding seed oils how long until your body starts to respond (shed the weight and other things)? Days, weeks, months? Or does it? Or is it permanent damage at this point?
Oh hell, I don't know what to eat that's healthy anymore! I've been a vegetarian my whole life. I'm not and never have been overweight but now that I'm in my 50s I'm suffering terribly from arthritis (especially in my wrists and hands). I eat a lot of pasta and soya mince. I also have 3 t/spoons of sugar in my tea. I hardly touch alcohol and where I can I avoid non natural drugs. Now I'll have to rethink my diet again. 🤔 This is exhausting. These experts all seem to have different options and scientific evidence. Same thing with this bloody Covid nonsense.
If you're vegetarian you can drop the seed oils, replace with butter/lard. 3 sugars in your tea? I drink a lot of tea and use less than a quarter but that's a taste thing. Also in my 50's never been overweight and try to eat like I did growing up. Meat (sorry) potatoes and sometimes a veg on the side. Eggs, dairy and I can't do without bread. Being UK born Aussie, never did get into the pasta/rice but I can go months without eating veg/fruit other than potatoes. Though I eat a bit more in summer via salad. Cooking from scratch guarantees you know what you're getting. As for Covid? Vaccinate. Good luck.
Carbs and sugar can increase inflammation worsening arthritis. Try less sugar and a bit of cream or other fat. Look for pasta alternatives, maybe eat more soups
@@tkps 😂 if you’re vegetarian you can eat lard. You’re priceless! If you’re vegetarian you can skip the salad and have a steak. It’s the perfect solution for vegetarians! 🤣 I’m going to be sure to suggest lard to every vegetarian I run into as an alternative to their pesky plant based diet. Too many fruits and vegetables can cause variety paralysis, but not so the bucket of lard! Simply choose lard! When will the Vegetarians learn? The answer is lard. Lard. LARD.
I grew up eating highly refined peanut oil that was tasteless. It had no peanut flavor whatsoever. Is peanut oil supposed to be bad and in the same category as seed oil? Peanuts are thought to be a healthy protein source, and children are fed peanut butter frequently. Any thought on whether I can fry things in peanut oil without worry? I immediately banished Crisco from my kitchen immediately when trans fats were revealed to be harmful.
Interesting, thanks for this. I had gallbladder problems while pregnant and was put on a very low fat McDougall style diet for several months until I was able to have surgery. I suspect that a lot of the positives I noticed from that diet were from such drastic reduction of PUFAS (such as consistent energy levels, not feeling aches and pains in my joints, quick loss of pregnancy weight) The main negatives were boredom with the diet, lack of satiety and my vitamin D and B12 got way too low. Now I eat a more normal diet B12 is much better, vit D still tends to be low though (even though I live in Portugal!) so I wonder if that's due to not having a gallbladder anymore.
if your vitamin d production from sun is impaired that can be many reasons. vitamin D is as every hormon relying on cholesterol. and all steps in between to make previtamin D from cholesterol. if you take statins that can be a reason, but if you have a lack of vitamins that can be too. try to get more cholin, like in egg yolks.
The biggest problem with nutritional science is who has been doing the research and why. Many of the studies that promote a high carb low fat and high fibre diets were not conducted by researchers devoid of any conflicts of interest. A lot of the studies were carried out by people on religious missions. Some of these people actually went looking for data that supported the beliefs of their religion or conclusions they had already decided on before leaving home. Even many of the clinical trials have been conducted not to find out about the best nutritional practices but to attempt to prove what was already decided to be what people should be eating . So before taking the supposedly accurate results of a study on face value you need to see who was doing researching, what their religion is, who they work for, who’s funding the research and look at the whole foundation of the study how it was structured and what results were obtained before the data was statistically corrected smoothed etc etc before the conclusions were made.
So if the chicken I eat is fed corn and soybeans in their diet I guess I’m eating it as well. I see “organic and vegan” labels but that can include corn and soybeans as well, nice!
It's worse for cattle, but you are right to think it's not healthy, even when consumed indirectly. Birds are at least meant to eat some grains, but cows and other ruminants are not. The nice marbling we get in commercial red meats comes from feeding it corn/soybean before harvesting it. It's for profit and taste, but it's proven that the marbling is a sign of insulin resistance/Type 2. I only buy grass fed meats, but avoiding ALL processed packaged foods was a bigger health benefit to me than just fixing the quality of meat. They are more poison in chips, cookies etc.. Canola oil is the worse for me I think.
It’s not worse for cattle. Animals with a rumen do not accumulate polyunsaturated fats in their adipose because they can convert it. Lamb is the same. Grain fed beef and grass fed beef are close to equal with regards to polyunsaturated fat. Grass fed is slightly better. Pork and chicken is terrible if traditionally farmed, choose lean cuts to avoid their fat profile.
@@FrancoisV313 So true, just make sure you eat grass finished. If in the lifetime of that animal it has been on pasture for one month then it’s considered grass fed. So the babies coming off their mother are pastured off until it’s moved onto a feedlot and a year later but urged is grass fed. That had no benefit to it’s end state but eating grass prior to it being butchered allows the animal to absorb omega 3s and other good nutrients. We are in a state of too many omega 6 and not enough omega 3. We need to go back to our natural way of eating.
Look at the 13:48 graph -- not just the type of added fat has changed, but the amount too, from almost nothing to hundreds of calories per day of added fat! How well can we separate the effects of fat quality from the effects of fat quantity?
yeah, well omega 6 is an essential fatty acid that is healthy in small quantities. it's the quantity. In some peoples' diets it has reached 10x what it should be.
Very interesting. It's a bit overly simplistic to lay graphs next to one another and draw conclusions though - the problems are multiple in nature so multivariate analysis needs to be done. Wish they would hook these study leads up with a statistician familiar with multivariate data analysis methods such as principal component analysis. I would prefer to see something on 'what causes obesity and chronic disease' rather than 'does X cause it'.
Yeah, I had alarm bells going off watching this too. Let's put a graph showing hours of computer use and hours of exercise up against those obesity numbers.
@@jonnynice8366 Exercise alone has nothing to do with weight gain/loss so sitting on our arses won't make us fatter if we don't over eat/eat only rubbish. Some UK studies have already shown that. You may be fitter but that's the only thing that will change if people eat more than they need and more so if they eat rubbish. Let's not pretend for a second morbidly obese people eat decent quality food cooked from scratch on the daily and never too much of it. That's not how they got that way.
@@tkps Exercise relative to food intake has a gigantic amount to do with obesity. It's not just that we eat unhealthy, we eat things designed to create more cravings, so that people with sedentary lifestyles eat amounts that an active person needs. If they were to exercise, they would in fact get a normal BMI. Whether that means they would then have good cardio-vascular health is another question though.
@@tkps I disagree. Due to relatively recent events, I spent hours and hours sitting in front of my computer while neglecting to exercise. My (low fat, oil free and almost sugar free) diet did not change, but I put several inches on my waistline! I am not saying that will be everyone's experience (individual variability, you know), but I definitely need a certain level of physical activity to avoid fattening up. Frankly, it surprised me. I thought like you that exercise had only a marginal effect on body composition, that it was almost all diet, but I no longer think that's right, at least not for everyone.
Anyone who is interested an a popular science book on this exact topic I recommend Why We Eat (Too Much) by Dr Andrew Jenkinson. It’s a really wonderful read.
16:16 the decrease of heart disease deaths is also related to decrease of tobacco consumption as opposed to coronary procedures. I have doubts about those coronary procedures.
The Japanese were eating white rice in the 1960s when they were healthy. Most Asians prefer white rice. Bread fruit and other tubers are mostly starch, yet those populations who ate them in their traditional diets were also healthy. So, how can starch from white rice and white flour be the problem?
It's what's added to it that's the problem. People in Asia are getting very sick and fat now, they're eating too much sugary junk food with their rice. They're overdoing the American crap.
The Randle cycle explains some of this. When carbs (sugar) and fats are consumed in excess of requirement, fats will be stored before the glucose and insulin has to go sky high. This compounds the problem.
thats a normal process and not bad in itself, after a few hours of lunch metabolism is back to normal, for healthy folks. its more like chronic inflammation impairs metabolic flexibility even in fasting times, thats what seed oils and trans fats and artificial fructose can do.
@@meggi8048 It is normal but not desirable if you have chronic disease. The high insulin is the main cause of chronic inflammation. BTW; All fructose is the same molecule, no matter the source.
why would insulin be high without inflammation. glucose in itself doesnt cause inflammation where as fructose does.@@Billy97ify thats not correct, artificial fructose definitely is worse than natural fructose. everything artificial is worse. you do not get 100% clean compounds, you always have something like 95-95,5% and the rest is somewhat else like more or less toxic byproducts from production. eat the exact same amount of fructose either through plants or through artificial fructose like in american coke, i can tell you who gets diabetes and who doesnt.
Sugar is not going down because everything that contains the seed oils contains sugar also. Ansel Keys did a 27 Country study but only submitted 7 results which supported his hypothesis. Vicki
Liked and Shared and saved to watch again. So my low carb diet to reverse my type 2 diabetes is actually zero seed oil diet. Nice. I've been reading labels for over a year now and avoiding added sugar, wheat and PUFA's.
I get that the extracted seed oils are bad for their extreme concentrations and lack of antiflammatory substances that usually come with the PUFAs when consumed from food sources instead. I'd like to hear more about the actual food sources including seemingly lots of PUFAs and how they are different if at all. Should one be cutting off nuts and seeds from their diet for their PUFA content or is it enough to simply avoid the oils?
I'd say good quality nuts, but it is true some of them are high in omega6 and calories in general, you just have to moderate it. As for seeds, there are some natural antinutrients that give disgestive issue or reaction to people, also non-organic since those can be sprayed. So, for seeds it think it depends on how you tolerate them. Maybe pressure cooking can help reduce some of the antinutrients. Almond is actually among the crops with heaviest use of Roundup sprayed on and other chemicals.
ideally it is said that nuts and seeds would have been hard to gather in large quantites in nature so they would not have been over indulged in and only eaten in small amounts. Plus a seeds goal is to spread so when eaten it will just be pooped out and possibly cause digestives issues because it can tear the inner lining of the stomach
guess that depends on the seed. some plants rely on beeing eaten and pooped out because they are geological distributed and also poop is natural fertilizer.@@JordanTelezino
I might assign seed oils equal danger with carbs, but the idea that you can now just eat all the carbs you want as long as you avoid seed oils is inappropriate. Don't tell people it's ALL seed oil and that excessive carbs are now good for you again. They are BOTH bad.
Carbs from potatoes or yams are not particularly bad, from sugar, yes. Seed oils are all bad. The problem for the most part is that after eating processed foods for decades or more, our bodies over-respond to even ok calories badly now. See the Tokeloans for evidence of this.
If you think about it most carbs are wrapped in processed foods. So if people get rid of the vast majority of processed foods for the oil sake, the carbs would go with them.
Since Dr. Knobbe's cogent case makes it clear that the likely driver behind insulin resistance are these seed oils, does that mean that people who practice low carb should start consuming carbs again, and just simply remove seed oils from their diet as the only intervention? My answer to that is no. While linoleic acid maybe the cause of metabolic dysfunction, and we should purge it from our diets to prevent insulin resistance, once you ALREADY HAVE insulin resistance, and all its associated effects - diabetes, hypertension, obesity, etc. - the quickest way to reverse insulin resistance is through a low carb diet in conjunction with some fasting protocol. Keep in mind, simply eschewing seed oils does not reverse the effects of insulin resistance as quickly, as it takes time for the body to remove linoleic acid from the adipose tissue.
It's no co-incidence that the majority of seed oils is found in processed foods and they are all carbs. I can't believe people blame meat/fat for various illnesses when the SAD today (and here in Australia and elsewhere) is made up predominantly of carbs. When reducing carbs you automatically reduce seed oils/processed foods. It's better for us so why not continue.
Even if you can find a way to purge linoleic acid from your diet, you definitely do NOT want to do that! It is an essential nutrient. It must be in your diet or you will die. However, arsenic is also an essential nutrient for humans (not for lab rats though), but that does not mean you need to take arsenic supplements. You don't need linoleic acid supplements either, although you do need a small amount linoleic acid.
Coconut oil is perfectly natural, the Islanders have been using it for all the time people have lived on Islands. It's 95% cholesterol and just goes to prove that cholesterol isn't the danger, sugar is the killer.
I wouldnt call it food...its PICA ...people are addicted to chemicals...Ive given this info to people and they still continue to eat them...the addiction is real...
@@ernestwest6861 - And if you see pictures of the men they look more muscled than groups eating mod protein high sat fat, high protein high sat fat, high carbs high protein. So it is strange that the most strongly muscled group is the one not only eating low protein but so low it wouldn't even meet the needs of a child. That is strange. Although maybe harvesting those potatos is amazing energy and maybe they were eating 6k calories of Sweet Potato and getting 30Gs of protein. Still, they picked Potato over Pork most of the time? Not credible. Not impossible, true, but I would need more evidence before believing it.
@@colinthomson5358 Yes, even if they ate a 4-6k calorie diet that would be 45 grams of protein a day. I think the most likely answer is that they periodically feast on high protein food like fish or pork. So while they may eat 3% protein on a regular basis, they are periodically getting big doses of protein. Also, even if their main diet was potatoes, 3% still wouldnt make sense. A medium potato has about 163 calories of which 4.3g are protein => about 10.5% of the calories are protein. Even if you do sweet potatoes, it is around 7.2% of the calories are from protein. Also, interestingly, you can get complete protein from potatoes and could survive on just eating potatoes (you would need some sweet potatoes for vitamin A). You would eventually develop a deficit in a few trace minerals though. Especially B12 which is only naturally found in animal sources (and some sea vegetables)
@@ernestwest6861 Exactly. Eating "potato only diet" is a sort of fasting. The carb intake in absence of ANY fat ("very low fat diet") causes the glucose metabolism to be self regulating. It is also very satienting. So this seems like cycling of semi-fasting (aka low-fat low-protein high-carb) with high-protein high-fat. In this context I can imagine it works pretty well. But the key is the CYCLING. Eating 3% protein, 90% carbs ALL THE TIME would be very detrimental...
It's true. There have been other peoples in that part of the world where the traditional dietary staple is the sweet potato that had similar macro ratios. The only apparent drawback to these very low protein diets is that the people grew up to be unusually short as adults, but other than that their health was by all measures excellent. It is always possible the measurements could be a bit inaccurate (in either direction!), but probably not by much.
So, if not seed oils, then what to replace with? Animal fats oils? or Olive Oils? sorry if this is a dumb question, but, he never gave the solution. just the problems
Tallow, fat from animals with ruminants (beef, lamb). Butter. Ghee (clarified butter). EVOO, EVCO. To avoid adulterated olive oil, stick with EVOO. Palm oil, if you don't care about jungle and orangutan. Avocado oil is actually not as good as evoo for heat resistant, smoke point doesn't determine how well an oil resist oxidation. Lard lately can be tricky since swine can be fed high corn and soy diet, still it's better than straight up vegetable oils.
Careful, you're fighting with fire. It's extremely dangerous and especially when eaten with sugary foods. There are good oils, coconut is the best, it's been used for thousands of years by native Islanders. They've survived even though coconut oil is 95% cholesterol, but it's natural. Seed oils are factory made.
Also during the same time frame the amount of jabs given to children and adults for various diseases went up as well and toxins we are exposed to and sedentary lifestyle so it's hard to separate out the cause of obesity and I wonder if it couldn't be a mix of all three.
@35:20 I think fruits are also to blame here, because japanese fruit is incredibly sweet, the fructuose must be extremelly high, and that also must be causing a lot of problems
@@neorich59 Fruits contain 100% fructose, which goes directly to the liver. fiber of not, you need to add those unnaturally high levels of fructose to the already sugar-saturated Japanese food 😉
@@manehbag732 unsaturated fats still get oxidized extremely quickly. Olive oil would be fine... If you're picking it off the olive tree in your backyard right before making it for dinner, but otherwise not stable enough I am guessing the "forget salads" but is based on antinutrients, for which I mostly just suggest eating meat and veggies during separate meals
@@aliendroneservices6621 they're often medicinal and have compounds that meat never will. I.e. Curcumin, sulforaphane, kuromanins (really all of flavonoids), NMN, and probably 500,000,000 more, but these are considered big ones
Japan is not overweight and sick. I've been in Japan many times and people are thin, generally healthy, they walk alot, the cycle to work, and their diet (compared to the west) is awesome. Portion sizes are small, food isn't too processed, you can find alot of healthy options even at 7eleven type stores. I love their Japanese curry haha. Other than that, great video.
Agreed and they consume copious amounts of refined rice, for those who think that carbs are "evil." Other than that, are they not and haven't they always sauteed their food in sesame oil?
Does anyone know if eating the seeds eg sunflower , pumpkin etc is ok ? Here in the UK , Fish and Chips is still a very popular ' take away ' food . Probably when I was a child ( 50 years ago ) this common meal was cooked in Lard or something similar , but now it is cooked in some common vegetable oil . Since seeing an earlier talk by Dr Knobbe I can't even have Fish and Chips as a very occasional ' treat ' .
a seeds goal is to spread. so when you eat it you can be always sure that you are not digesting it and that it will come out the other end the way it came in. Seeds can be irritating to the gut, cause inflammation and in nature would only be eaten in small amounts if that. However the best test is always see how you feel before and after eating it and if the effect is positive then you will be okay
Cook fish and chips yourself so that you have more quality control. Use cleaner options of fish, organic potatoes and organic coconut oil or butter or grass fed beef tallow. When you take quality control within your own domain you will not be cheated for someone else’s profit. Get rid of the middle man and develop your skills and abilities while saving money and taking that extra step for your health, health is wealth.
So this whole video is just observational correlations, not any controlled trials? There are observational studies that show the opposite also like: "Serum n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids and risk of death: the Kuopio Ischaemic Heart Disease Risk Factor Study".
Is Knobbe using correlations to imply causation? Im convinced that his argument is sound, but Im not certain the correlations point to causation in his graphs.
I wonder if Low Carb Moderate Protein High Healthy Fats lifestyle is okay longterm? I‘ve changed to a Healthy Keto diet over 5 years ago. I feel much healthier, dropped all processed foods, sugar and refined carbs, plus I dropped over 80lbs of excess fat. Of course it‘s better than the Standard American Diet, but I do worry I have become too rigid and maybe I should cycle in some more carbs and fruit from time to time. They say Metabolic-Flexibility is the best... changing from Fat-Burner (Ketogenic) to Glucose-Burner and back again. I just know my joint-inflammation is gone since I‘ve started this diet, so I am hesitant to eat more carbs/fructose. I guess I will give it a try, just to see how my body reacts.
Remember the old adage when we didn't know so much: "Everything in moderation". Mind you that was at the time when all food was made from scratch, we didn't eat processed seed oils and even if we ate the odd bit of processed food like biscuits (cookies)/cakes they were made with eggs, butter and milk. Even potato chips were made using fat not oil. I think it is alright to have fruit and veg. I'm in my 50's, always weighed the same (50kg) am 167cm and ate like my Mum and Dad. Mostly animal foods with a bit of veg/fruit especially potatoes and I can do without bread. But I eat small. Try it and see.
My mother was warning me against seed oils since the early eighties. She read medical journals, and she was saying much the same things that are said here. I observed ever increasing use of those seed oils throughout the eighties and nineties everywhere. They became difficult to avoid in most products. I generally ate butter and cooked with lard, and I remained slim and healthy while people kept telling me my diet was insane, and they got fat eating "health foods".
Nevertheless, when someone would say Americans were fat pigs, I would defend them, saying it was industry that was pushing bad food everywhere and calling it healthy. Most people didn't have the education my mother had, and the time to read medical journals, which were saying the opposite of "US Dietary Guidelines", as the speaker here says. My mother would talk about how appalling it was that public information was the opposite of what the medical researchers were finding.
(I've been ranting for decades that criminals in government and industry need to be tried for murder and executed.)
None of these diseases needed to happen for the last couple of generations, at least.
I agree 100% !!!! ALL OF THEM NEED TO BE TRIED FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND GIVEN THE DEATH PENALTY.
@@southernyankee05 It sounds harsh, I know. But they know they do wrong - for generations they know it, and no one stops them. The watchdog agencies that also know and have a duty to stop them don't do their work. Bribery and criminal conspiracy have to be involved. Even attempted mass murder.
Tim, so what do you eat and avoid?
Yeah end the fed, it’s happening thank God
This guy is one of the biggest reasons why I now actually fear seed oils MORE than sugar
Same. In faci, I won't eat it at all. I haven't been sick in three years; not even a headache,
Listening to him I have improved my eye sight a great deal ....standard medical advice is more about profit then health...surprise!
As a Greek, having grown up with olive oil only, I was always wary of the seed oils. Unfortunately nowadays everything is packed with seed oil. Even here in Greece, I have noticed a big change in our snacks, like potato chips. When I was growing up we mostly have domestic products that were using olive oil, nowadays everything is seed oil
same here
Yep, which is worse seed oils or sugar? I'm thinking both equally as bad and I strive to avoid 100% of both.
Chris Knobbe and Robert Lustig have changed my life for the better more than any others! Thank You!
Dr. Lustig’s new book, “Metabolical”, is really amazing. Especially the chapter “Food in the Time of Corona “. Such an interesting and revealing book!
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. Jason Fung, Ken Berry, Eric Berg, John Bergman, and last but not least Sten Ekberg!!!!!
I have a pacemaker and had bypass surgery 7 years ago. Eating the seed oils because they were supposed to be healthy nearly killed me.
All these drs have helped me get my health back.
True heroes :)
When I lived at college and ate the cafeteria food, it was the first time in my life that I was exposed to seed oils on a daily basis. I couldn't even eat the sautéed vegetables without getting bloated. No matter what I ate, I was in constant pain and my weight skyrocketed
Why do Harvard, Penn, the American Heart Association, the World Health Organization, and other medical authorities continue to reccomend seed oils over animal fats? Because these seed oil refineries (ADM, Cargill, etc) are multi billion dollar businesses and wield TREMENDOUS political power. Michael Pollan addresses this deeply disturbing issue in his books.
The food industry (and not just see oil refiners, but meat and dairy industries too) make generous donations to all these health related non-profits. The latter rarely bite the hand that feeds them.
These government agencies is all about them, greed & power. America #1 unhealthy country when it comes to eating . I learned this 35 years ago.!!! LOTS of food in our country ...... junk food.
If Michael Pollan is on to their BS, why does he still recommend eating "not much" and "mostly plants"?
@@thefisherking78 I haven't read Pollan's book, but I thought he recommended "not much meat" and mostly plants. That would be good advice. There has been a long running debate since the 1970s over which fat is preferable (low saturated fat plant oils or high saturated animal fats), but more important I think is to keep the total fat in one's diet at a low level, probably 10 to 15%, with the lower end of this range probably being better. Ignoring Eskimos who live in an unusual environment (and did not have the excellent health that some high fat advocates claim), the diets of hunter gatherers were very low in fat simply because most wild plants and animals are low in fat. Even peasant farmers ate low fat diets for thousands of years because early livestock was quite lean, and most of their calories also came from grains or in some areas tubers. High fat and high animal protein cuisine were for millennia a luxury of the rich who were also widely observed to suffer worse health as a result. Both Plato and Aristotle mention this.
@@michaels4255 I've never heard of this observation that the wealthy suffered ill health. I heard they were historically taller than the poor until recently when the poor and middle class had wider access to foods other than grains. I guess I'll google it but did you read this in any particular book?
Dr. Chris Knobbe, more than any other voice in the past few years, has given the most articulate and well defended argument implicating seed oils in the etiology of so many diseases of Western civilization. I appreciate his contributions to the health space so much. He turned my thinking around regarding the cause of insulin resistance. Before listening to his presentation, on the Low Carb Down Under channel, I, along with many low carb practitioners, thought that insulin resistance was simply induced by too much and too frequent carb consumption. This overly simplistic model always had one problem. It really could not explain traditional populations, who for centuries ate high starch diets - sometimes at 70 to 80 percent of total calories - who were metabolically healthy. So it had to be something else. Dr. Knobbe, along with Drs. Cate Shanhan, Paul Saladino, and Michael Eades should be given so much credit for offering a new way of explaining metabolic disease.
As a former chef, in a fairly wide variety of styles of restaurant (from different cuisines to vastly different price points) I can confirm that every single restaurant from the delis to the fine dining will all have *something* cooked in/prepared with seed oils. Once you get to the fine dining though there is a lot more butter, lard and olive oil used but I can guarantee you if something is deep fried then it will be in canola oil. And 99% of mayos and oil based salad dressings will be cut with canola oil. So there is always a chance that you can get a dish with no seed oils in a fine dining restaurant but they're still present.
Good to know. We can hope for the day when food that is deep fried in lard becomes a calling card for quality restaurants.
This is why I have quit dining out. If I have to I go for steak. I also ask that all my food be cooked in butter or lard.
@@CorporateChairMassageTeam ~ Homemade mayonnaise is extremely easy to make with an immersion (stick) blender and you can control every ingredient. In my opinion, coconut oil makes the best.
@@hillsofwi wild wings frys in tallow,only place i can eat fried without getting extreme gastric issues
@@annmiller5729 Good to know. Thanks.
your work has changed my life.
So great to see someone NOT vilifying carbs! People who do ignore the fact that humans have been eating grains and carbs for centuries without being obese and disease-riddled, and healthy groups around the world today eat lots of good carbs while staying healthy. Humans keep pushing extremes. Balance is key.
There are no healthy carbs for humans. Carbs change microbiome in the mouth and we get cavities. If carbs were proper nutrition for humans we wouldn't have these teeth problems. Fats and protein don't cause dental problems.
true!
The egyptians had all sorts of metabolic disease. Lifespan was so short you didnt die from them first. Until now. Metabolic disease evidence in human remains is traced back to the advent of agriculture
what metabollic diseases did they have?@@EthanE3
Absolutely LOVE this video content!
Keto & IF works fantastically for me- just completed 4 years and TOTALLY sustainable! My PCP still hasn’t figured it out yet even though I told him exactly what I was doing. Got off all 17 Rx 2 1/2 years now. BTW I’m 66 and live in the USA where all poison processed foods are allowed -even promoted yet as safe. My diet is whole foods- nothing processed except aged cheeses (10 months >2 years) and the fermented kimchi /miso paste only from Japan. I fast two 24/hr in a month and have been stretching it to one 48hr fast/month. It’s so easy once you know how- absolutely no cravings & hunger is extremely temporary as I am fully fat adapted.
It's tragic that this information is known by so few. It is very easy to eat healthfully and it costs less when you stick to real food. Kudos on your life style.
@@kerrylattimore2684 personally I received no help from my doctors and learned all from the internet. It is really sad. Believe it or not but my religious beliefs as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses-digging and searching for substantiated truth made me a critical thinker. Apparently a very necessary tool for survival today as I use it in all phases of life. My generation was always taught to believe in what “experts” say ….no now I say “where’s your data” or show me the scriptures that prove what the Bible really says. Psalms 146:3 indicates a thinking person questions what authorities say by looking into proof from multiple sources and not what they quote which is usually biased material. With clinical trials one MUST look at a minimum of 2 criteria
1) who’s funding it
2) what data was rejected in the “run in period”
Of course there can be outliers in studies or caveats that further define the results but perhaps not popular to disclose such as length of time or divisions of groups (male/female, ages, ethnicity, global location, culture, previous /current medical condition, pregnancy, etc).
Truly if something is that important to you spending the time to research is worth it. In my case I I do pray thus invite Jehovah in my decision making.
Undeniably an insightful presentation! Thank you, Dr. Chris Knobbe, for going against the grain and putting the truth out there!
bad things in food so far: sugar, fructose, seed oils, oxalates, lectins
Fibre too
Phytates too perhaps?
@NOTREALLY HANKAARON sure can. But its also not needed. If it bothers you in any way it not essential to good flora.
@@galahadthreepwood Fibre? Why is fibre not good? Surely not ...
@NOTREALLY HANKAARON If you look deeper, soaking removes most lectins and phytates. If you are eating a raw vegan diet that is balanced healthy, and long-term focussed you would be aware that you soak seeds and nuts with a brown outer before eating. You would also know not have a green smoothie packed with spinach every day. No panic - it is not hard. Not for raw vegans anyway :)
No wonder my keto diet has improved my health so much! One of the first things I did was educate myself on the importance of healthy fats. Since I was going to be fueling my body on 75% (of kcal) fats each day, I wanted to make sure I was choosing the highest quality fats available. I read labels religiously and have put many things back on the shelf because of the choice the manufacturers made when it came to oil content... type, not amount. I thoroughly agree with Chris Knobbe's perspective.
Bravo!!!! Another magnificent presentation!!! Dr. Knobbe saved my life!! He is without a doubt one of the most brilliant health and nutrition researchers of all time! AND, he walks the talk!! His tremendous health is an indication that he lives his life by what he has learned! Thank you SO much for sharing the truth about seed oils and the devastation they have on our health! You are my HERO and a treasure from God!! 💖🙏
What is worse is that the current push to faux meat alternatives will increase the intake of seed oils in the diet.
Its all a money making scam. Seed oil industry including soybean production (90% of soybeans are crushed for oil), are multi billion dollar industries.
Weston A Price foundation has been saying this for years, too. Sally Fallon's "Nourishing Traditions" cookbook has this info and even more throughout the margins of the book.
If it is not fermented (lacto fermented, not chemically fermented), it also inhibits your body's ability to process ALL proteins at a ratio of 1 tablespoon to 24 hours.
Think about what this is doing to your meat, too.... Most livestock feed contains HUGE amounts of soy and corn (no, most meat animals do NOT eat these grains if given a choice) and up to 90% of soy and 95% of corn is GMO. (This is also part of the "cow fart" problem)
Then realize it is literally in everything... FDA has allowed them to use as many names for soy as they can come up with - there are nearly 100 of them. It is used commercially as a non-stick (lecithin) in baked goods.
Its also one of the top 10 food allergens globally.
Given soy is grown on premium cropland, it is not even fit for a car engine. Rapeseed is better for biodiesel and grows on marginal soils.
Despite the soy lobby and marketing association's claims - there is literally no decent use for soy ANYWHERE other than miso, natto and soy sauce. And then only prepared using traditional methods.
This is fantastic and a video I had been hoping for, because people listen harder to a Doctor. Dr. Berg, on UA-cam, is very helpful as to what to eat, whether you are on a particular diet or not. Dr. Berg, who is a Keto advocate, takes many issues into consideration, like the necessary nutrients and trace minerals we must consume in food or supplements. My husband is diabetic, blind, has profound neuropathy, high BP...for 3 1/2 years we have been on the Keto Diet, taking C8 oil and supplements, but no more drugs. His A1C went from 10.4 to 5.7, he has not fallen in 3 1/2 years and we both lost 40 lbs. EWG has the list of clean 15 and Dirty Dozen, for which foods you must buy organic. Thank goodness for Dr. Knobbe!
Thanks to Chris Knobbe and Tucker Goodrich I now avoid seed oils like poison!
It's always fascinating looking at the vintage film footage and remarking how slim everyone is.
But, in addition to seed oils, people were definitely eating less refined sugar.
And they were more "mobile." There were books, like Pure White and Deadly, warning about the perils of refined sugar, long before anyone thought of worrying about seed oils.
It's both the sugar and the bad fats. It is easier to say all processed foods are bad for us. Just eat whole foods, cook them properly (make sourdough bread for example, not the one with instant yeast) and buy regeneratively farmed produce and at the farmers market to avoid chemically grown stuff.
This guy is a hero who will save many lives
For cooking with heat, I only use coconut oil, & occasionally, butter. For salad dressing & direct (spoonful) drinking, extra virgin olive oil & virgin coconut oil.
When my doc told me I had AMD, I was devastated, but have stopped it cold with supplements and whole, fresh, organic, free range. My eyesight has actually improved, and is near perfect at 73 years of age. With this new data, I can now further improve my “invisible health” and strength. I’ve gone from using bacon for flavor in my eggs to the beef fat left from making bone broth and pot roasts with clean beef…I just skim it and freeze it…great stuff! Now….if I could just find chickens raised without any grains…..
Congrats! Which supplements?
Raise your own! You can do it!!
Dr. Knobbe is not wrong. He may not have the whole answer but he certainly has a big part of it.
This is pretty much the whole answer dude lol
You are so brilliant! Thank you for sharing your knowledge to save lives!
The best presentation on the danger of seed oil and to much omega 6 i ever saw.........very well done!
This actually explains the phenomena of raw fruitarian diets and why they seem to work for weight loss and improvement of health markers. It wasn’t so much the fruit but the absence of seed oils in the diet.
For the last 40 years, Ray Peat says we should avoid PUFAs.
what about omega3s?
@@meggi8048 I don't know. Omega3 is a fairly new recommendation. Its confusing..
This information should be mainstream
No More Seed OILS for Me. Thank You for this Very Important Information.
Thank you for sharing your truth with other people. Knowing that just speaking the truth these days makes one unpopular especially with Billion Dollar Corporations who have surpressed the information in collusion with medical Clinics known to people and are respected as authorities on all things concerning the health of the population.
It is shameful that an honorable man incurs personal and economical risk to inform us.
Once again, thank you.
I’m sorry, but my hypothesis is mixing seed oils and sugar have combined to be more powerful than arsenic in long term chronic diseases.
Eye opening! Thank you!
How dare she interrupt the talk ! Rude. lol!
Great stuff per usual, Chris!
What about the lack of micronutrients in our diet. I believe that also contributes here
He actually literally says this in the talk. Processed foods are nutrient deficient. He cites Weston mentioning this as well
"world health organization"
"World economic forum"
See a pattern?
Butter, beef drippings and lard. Haven't used any oils in a few years.
37:47 It's a little dangerous to use vegetable oil production rather than consumption. It's likely that the percentage of production being consumed has gone down as we've found ways to use these oils in industrial uses, soaps, etc. over time.
it definitely hasnt gone down. but you are right with the other part.
Is there any research to compare seed oil consumption and COVID-19 symptom severity?
Lol. Science and Covid together? Good one.
The media and government virtiously quote "The Science" and shame anyone that tries to share a slightly nuanced opinion as dangerous misinformation. I have started to vigorously counter by explaining that scientifically speaking I am providing the missing information that is needed to fully have a discussion.
there is a misconception about science: Science is always at certain level or under certain condition which we may not know at a time. I believe there must be "science" behind bloodletting for treating fever.
Considering most people hospitalized, vaccinated or not, are obese, there is at least that link. Old and obese continue to be the highest true deaths too.
Sorry but do horses get fat on lush organic pasture? Do they develop a whole range of health conditions as a result? Do dogs get fat on grass fed Beef if they have far too much of it?
Equines and bovines ferment cellulose into protein and saturated fat.
Dr. Knobbe:
Off-screen voice: "You guys can leave and go on break if you don't give a shit about this."
This is why it's so hard to help my friends here in America fix their dietary health. Attention span is zero. If it's not instantly gratifying, people tune out.
Cutting out as much seed oil from my diet as possible. Mayonnaise has 75-82% seed oil (use yogurt)......and I thought my tuna was heart healthy!! Thank you Dr. Knobbe for this essential and valuable information.
Great Presentation. Carbs aren’t flat these days, they grow an grow.
This is fab, thank you so much. This is likely why I have remained slender my whole life. I never bought into eating reduced fat. I have always loved a ton of saturated fat. But I do feel curious if sugar is going down in these graphs, arent toxic fake sweeteners also going up? Maybe those fake sweeteners also have some contribution to the US obesity, / cancers /CHD / AMD, etc since nature is so much wiser than most processed foods. What do you think, Chris Knobbe?
one of the BEST explanations of the emergence of chronic disease... In our lab we make, or model Rats for DM type 2 only by using an increasing amount of seed oil! (like 40% increase ) in their normal diet!!!! Crazy....
vegetable oils are the devil everytime i consume i feel im having heartattacks with no exception
IF I have to eat out I take ox bile. It helps, but not perfect. In my case it is all gut issues.
me too
diabetes is absolutely exacerbated by sugar. I agree somewhat with his statement that carbs “aren’t the problem “. They may not be so bad directly but snacking all the time on low fiber high carb spikes blood sugar and, and along with fructose making livers fatty, causes diabetes. The omega 6 may contribute somewhat to diabetes but the main driver is fructose, high GI foods, and eating frequently. And all three of those factors are interrelated
I agree. Anything furthest from nature such as food with an imbalance of nutrients or extracted/refined products, messes with our biochemistry - contributing to metabolic diseases. (if we had to simplify it down) And sure, an unnatural sugary donut wont hurt once and a while, but that mindset is a recipe for slipping into food addiction and believing that donuts etc aren't a problem. im concerned that people just reject their health like this D: especially with all the food scarcity around. I like to begin with what all diet experts (whatever if they're vegan, carnivore etc) agree with.. and why controversially all diets when done right, work like they do. Just throwing out my thoughts🙂
See the latest video on "Diet Doctor" with several speakers - and see what Ben Bikmann says there.
Acutally it seems that diabetes/insulin resistance is CAUSED by sugar, but LA makes it much much worse through it action on adipocytes...
Yeah I don't think he was talking about refined carbs or sugar when he said that since the example was a people who ate a ton of sweet taters... But the fact is because of how our food supply is right now, if you remove seed oils you're removing most refined carbs and visa versa... They're both bad.
Quite right, Sugars, white flour, seed oils. You can't get away from them. Put them together and you have a massive bomb.
He is saying they dont cause diabetes. Not that they dont affect diabetes LOL
You can wipe lard off your cooker with your finger, you can't do that with those oils, they're like plastic. You need a scraper.
But they say lard is bad for your heart and arteries. Yeh...
@@sammcrae8892 Yes, it's amazing what they say. Coconut oil is 95% saturated fat and it's been used by people all their lives without a problem. They've had nothing else to eat in the equatorial islands.
@@sammcrae8892 Look for the why. Hard to find. As at other times the original evidence was faulty. When cholesterol blocking arteries was discovered they told us not to eat eggs one of most nutrient dense foods there is. They backtracked like they have now with fat/butter because they don't increase heart disease, just cholesterol which alone isn't dangerous. The calcium/cholesterol build up in arteries is caused by it 'fixing' inflammation. Inflammation is often caused by overconsuming inflammatory Omega 6 (seed oils). Ratio to anti-inflammatory Omega 3 should be 1:1. It's 26:1.
I use to spend hours trying to clean the hard yellow fat off the top of the oven fan. And this was just from the odd thing my husband cooked, as I ate almost no fat back then.
11 years of eating lots of real fat now. Butter, lard and tallow. Just an easy wipe. It is scary when I think about it now.
@@dawnelder9046 It sure makes you wonder what it does to people's insides, doesn't it.
There has also been an explosion of degenerative brain disease (Alzheimer' Parkinson's) in the last 40 years.
Great talk, and I really like the way he disproves other things to blame, such as sugar, that have increased in the diet. I'd like to see it tied in together with Dr. Michael Eades's study of the ancient Egyptians and their health problems, and whether that can also be tied to their seed oil use. And one other question I have it whether there is any mitigating factor on the detriment of the seed oils when they are consumed as part of the nuts/seeds themselves; in other words, is it just as bad to get them from eating lots of nuts, or is there any mitigating factor, such as the fiber in fruits making the sugar less harmful?
This is just my personal opinion, but I think that it's likely that nuts (and to a lesser extent seeds....I mean there's cotton seed oil but I don't think that we should be eating cotton seeds) can be healthy if they aren't rancid. Same with their cold-pressed oils. I've gotten locally produced cold pressed canola, walnut and hazelnut oil and they're genuinely delicious. But once they go rancid they're pretty foul. It's the industrial, heated, denatured and then deodorized (to hide the fact that they've gone rancid) oils that are likely to cause damage. Though at the same time I doubt it's healthy to eat pounds of nuts a day or guzzle down their oils. We're legitimately made to eat as much variety as possible to avoid the issues that over consumption of one thing causes.
@@moderncontemplative8227 another thought is you'd have to eat a lot of walnuts to equal what you use in say a salad w a vinegar. So smaller anounts consumed from source of nuts. Variety always good to use also. I use olive unheated and coconut fir my fried chicken in winter. *Not deep fat fried, pan fried low heat. Keep low (burner on 3 when chix cold turn get warm go to 2) to prevent change from high heat. Its org, not processed, so hard at room temp. I known itz an MCT.
@@moderncontemplative8227 they're only not rancid immediately after pressing thanks to genetic modification of plants
@@OatmealTheCrazy I'm totally fine with non-laboratory modification of plants. While a lot of people want to shriek about how awful either plant or animal foods are I am firmly in the omnivore camp and I think anything we can do to make both our plant and animal foods better is absolutely awesome 😊 We've also genetically modified the animals we eat and I don't see many people talking about how we've bred cows and chickens to put on more meat or pigs to have less fat. We've been tinkering with our food sources since probably before we had fire so I don't see the problem.
@@mishaanton5436 If you're meaning calorically speaking for walnuts vs walnut oil, then yeah sure there's a lot more calories in the oil. But there's always more calories in pure oil. I've never seen MCT oil that's solid at room temperature. Coconut oil, sure. But pure MCT oil is a refined product. Cooking with coconut oil can certainly be a good option sometimes and I never said anything about only using one oil rather than a variety. But I was responding to someone talking about non-industrially processed liquid oils that aren't olive oil, so I'm not sure why you're bringing up cooking with solid coconut oil 🤔
They don't recommend them because they lower cholesterol. That's just what they tell us.They recommend them because a sick population is easier to control and profit from.
Peanut oil has been removed from most peanut butters and replaced with cottonseed, canola, or soy oil.
That's due to allergies that also once upon a time never existed.
Thats fucking creepy. But peanut oil is just as bad
@@steakovercake3986 Pretty much except peanut oil hasn’t been processed and damaged as much as the bottled cooking oils. It still has more PUFA than I would like.
Dr. Mercola sent me here
So grain fed animals are very high in LA too right? I think you could put more emphasis on that
My grandfather lived to 98 eating seed oils every day of his life.. There's so many variables.
at least 50 years of his life he didnt. the seed oil explosion began in 1960s.
and what seed oils did he eat afterwards? olive oil , acovado oil, coconut oil can be fine.
also it makes a difference if you introduce a bad diet late in life when u had good food in your first decades as the other way around.
Question…I have watched a few of the videos and I haven’t heard this addressed yet, after stopping or avoiding seed oils how long until your body starts to respond (shed the weight and other things)? Days, weeks, months? Or does it? Or is it permanent damage at this point?
Oh hell, I don't know what to eat that's healthy anymore! I've been a vegetarian my whole life. I'm not and never have been overweight but now that I'm in my 50s I'm suffering terribly from arthritis (especially in my wrists and hands). I eat a lot of pasta and soya mince. I also have 3 t/spoons of sugar in my tea. I hardly touch alcohol and where I can I avoid non natural drugs. Now I'll have to rethink my diet again. 🤔 This is exhausting. These experts all seem to have different options and scientific evidence. Same thing with this bloody Covid nonsense.
Just use coconut oil instead of other oils man; its not a massive change.
If you're vegetarian you can drop the seed oils, replace with butter/lard. 3 sugars in your tea? I drink a lot of tea and use less than a quarter but that's a taste thing. Also in my 50's never been overweight and try to eat like I did growing up. Meat (sorry) potatoes and sometimes a veg on the side. Eggs, dairy and I can't do without bread. Being UK born Aussie, never did get into the pasta/rice but I can go months without eating veg/fruit other than potatoes. Though I eat a bit more in summer via salad. Cooking from scratch guarantees you know what you're getting. As for Covid? Vaccinate. Good luck.
Please incorporate animals fats if not meat. Stay away from seed oils.
Carbs and sugar can increase inflammation worsening arthritis. Try less sugar and a bit of cream or other fat. Look for pasta alternatives, maybe eat more soups
@@tkps 😂 if you’re vegetarian you can eat lard. You’re priceless! If you’re vegetarian you can skip the salad and have a steak. It’s the perfect solution for vegetarians! 🤣 I’m going to be sure to suggest lard to every vegetarian I run into as an alternative to their pesky plant based diet. Too many fruits and vegetables can cause variety paralysis, but not so the bucket of lard! Simply choose lard! When will the Vegetarians learn? The answer is lard. Lard. LARD.
I grew up eating highly refined peanut oil that was tasteless. It had no peanut flavor whatsoever. Is peanut oil supposed to be bad and in the same category as seed oil? Peanuts are thought to be a healthy protein source, and children are fed peanut butter frequently. Any thought on whether I can fry things in peanut oil without worry? I immediately banished Crisco from my kitchen immediately when trans fats were revealed to be harmful.
Interesting, thanks for this. I had gallbladder problems while pregnant and was put on a very low fat McDougall style diet for several months until I was able to have surgery. I suspect that a lot of the positives I noticed from that diet were from such drastic reduction of PUFAS (such as consistent energy levels, not feeling aches and pains in my joints, quick loss of pregnancy weight) The main negatives were boredom with the diet, lack of satiety and my vitamin D and B12 got way too low. Now I eat a more normal diet B12 is much better, vit D still tends to be low though (even though I live in Portugal!) so I wonder if that's due to not having a gallbladder anymore.
if your vitamin d production from sun is impaired that can be many reasons.
vitamin D is as every hormon relying on cholesterol. and all steps in between to make previtamin D from cholesterol.
if you take statins that can be a reason, but if you have a lack of vitamins that can be too.
try to get more cholin, like in egg yolks.
The biggest problem with nutritional science is who has been doing the research and why.
Many of the studies that promote a high carb low fat and high fibre diets were not conducted by researchers devoid of any conflicts of interest. A lot of the studies were carried out by people on religious missions. Some of these people actually went looking for data that supported the beliefs of their religion or conclusions they had already decided on before leaving home.
Even many of the clinical trials have been conducted not to find out about the best nutritional practices but to attempt to prove what was already decided to be what people should be eating .
So before taking the supposedly accurate results of a study on face value you need to see who was doing researching, what their religion is, who they work for, who’s funding the research and look at the whole foundation of the study how it was structured and what results were obtained before the data was statistically corrected smoothed etc etc before the conclusions were made.
thats right, and whats been their religion back then could be vegan ideology today.
So if the chicken I eat is fed corn and soybeans in their diet I guess I’m eating it as well. I see “organic and vegan” labels but that can include corn and soybeans as well, nice!
It's worse for cattle, but you are right to think it's not healthy, even when consumed indirectly. Birds are at least meant to eat some grains, but cows and other ruminants are not. The nice marbling we get in commercial red meats comes from feeding it corn/soybean before harvesting it. It's for profit and taste, but it's proven that the marbling is a sign of insulin resistance/Type 2. I only buy grass fed meats, but avoiding ALL processed packaged foods was a bigger health benefit to me than just fixing the quality of meat. They are more poison in chips, cookies etc.. Canola oil is the worse for me I think.
It’s not worse for cattle. Animals with a rumen do not accumulate polyunsaturated fats in their adipose because they can convert it. Lamb is the same. Grain fed beef and grass fed beef are close to equal with regards to polyunsaturated fat. Grass fed is slightly better. Pork and chicken is terrible if traditionally farmed, choose lean cuts to avoid their fat profile.
@@huanjie1628 you are correct
@@FrancoisV313 you are incorrect about cattle. Monogastrics as Chris mentioned are many fold worse
@@FrancoisV313 So true, just make sure you eat grass finished. If in the lifetime of that animal it has been on pasture for one month then it’s considered grass fed. So the babies coming off their mother are pastured off until it’s moved onto a feedlot and a year later but urged is grass fed. That had no benefit to it’s end state but eating grass prior to it being butchered allows the animal to absorb omega 3s and other good nutrients. We are in a state of too many omega 6 and not enough omega 3. We need to go back to our natural way of eating.
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There's a remote chance that this guy might be right!
I'm going on a strictly whisky diet from now on!
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Please provide the citations for all the data and graphs that you are presenting. Thank you.
I can feel uncomfortable if I take veggie oil but not organic animal fat.
Super interesting. Thanks.
Excellent presentation!
Look at the 13:48 graph -- not just the type of added fat has changed, but the amount too, from almost nothing to hundreds of calories per day of added fat! How well can we separate the effects of fat quality from the effects of fat quantity?
yeah, well omega 6 is an essential fatty acid that is healthy in small quantities.
it's the quantity. In some peoples' diets it has reached 10x what it should be.
Very interesting. It's a bit overly simplistic to lay graphs next to one another and draw conclusions though - the problems are multiple in nature so multivariate analysis needs to be done. Wish they would hook these study leads up with a statistician familiar with multivariate data analysis methods such as principal component analysis. I would prefer to see something on 'what causes obesity and chronic disease' rather than 'does X cause it'.
Yeah, I had alarm bells going off watching this too. Let's put a graph showing hours of computer use and hours of exercise up against those obesity numbers.
@@jonnynice8366 Exercise alone has nothing to do with weight gain/loss so sitting on our arses won't make us fatter if we don't over eat/eat only rubbish. Some UK studies have already shown that. You may be fitter but that's the only thing that will change if people eat more than they need and more so if they eat rubbish. Let's not pretend for a second morbidly obese people eat decent quality food cooked from scratch on the daily and never too much of it. That's not how they got that way.
@@tkps Exercise relative to food intake has a gigantic amount to do with obesity. It's not just that we eat unhealthy, we eat things designed to create more cravings, so that people with sedentary lifestyles eat amounts that an active person needs. If they were to exercise, they would in fact get a normal BMI.
Whether that means they would then have good cardio-vascular health is another question though.
Yee, that was my worry watching it as well.
@@tkps I disagree. Due to relatively recent events, I spent hours and hours sitting in front of my computer while neglecting to exercise. My (low fat, oil free and almost sugar free) diet did not change, but I put several inches on my waistline! I am not saying that will be everyone's experience (individual variability, you know), but I definitely need a certain level of physical activity to avoid fattening up. Frankly, it surprised me. I thought like you that exercise had only a marginal effect on body composition, that it was almost all diet, but I no longer think that's right, at least not for everyone.
Anyone who is interested an a popular science book on this exact topic I recommend Why We Eat (Too Much) by Dr Andrew Jenkinson. It’s a really wonderful read.
why is canola in the list, it has omega 6 to 3 in 2:1 ratio.. whats the problem?
umm... why are there no warning label on this stuff like smoking tobacco.
31:52 Japan transition 1949 to present. Calories down 31%. Carbs down 28%. Seed oils up. Obesity up.
16:16 the decrease of heart disease deaths is also related to decrease of tobacco consumption as opposed to coronary procedures. I have doubts about those coronary procedures.
The Japanese were eating white rice in the 1960s when they were healthy. Most Asians prefer white rice. Bread fruit and other tubers are mostly starch, yet those populations who ate them in their traditional diets were also healthy. So, how can starch from white rice and white flour be the problem?
It's what's added to it that's the problem. People in Asia are getting very sick and fat now, they're eating too much sugary junk food with their rice. They're overdoing the American crap.
Vegetable oils have fucked the world
The Randle cycle explains some of this. When carbs (sugar) and fats are consumed in excess of requirement, fats will be stored before the glucose and insulin has to go sky high. This compounds the problem.
thats a normal process and not bad in itself, after a few hours of lunch metabolism is back to normal, for healthy folks.
its more like chronic inflammation impairs metabolic flexibility even in fasting times, thats what seed oils and trans fats and artificial fructose can do.
@@meggi8048 It is normal but not desirable if you have chronic disease. The high insulin is the main cause of chronic inflammation.
BTW; All fructose is the same molecule, no matter the source.
why would insulin be high without inflammation. glucose in itself doesnt cause inflammation where as fructose does.@@Billy97ify
thats not correct, artificial fructose definitely is worse than natural fructose. everything artificial is worse. you do not get 100% clean compounds, you always have something like 95-95,5% and the rest is somewhat else like more or less toxic byproducts from production.
eat the exact same amount of fructose either through plants or through artificial fructose like in american coke, i can tell you who gets diabetes and who doesnt.
Sugar is not going down because everything that contains the seed oils contains sugar also. Ansel Keys did a 27 Country study but only submitted 7 results which supported his hypothesis. Vicki
Liked and Shared and saved to watch again. So my low carb diet to reverse my type 2 diabetes is actually zero seed oil diet. Nice.
I've been reading labels for over a year now and avoiding added sugar, wheat and PUFA's.
I get that the extracted seed oils are bad for their extreme concentrations and lack of antiflammatory substances that usually come with the PUFAs when consumed from food sources instead. I'd like to hear more about the actual food sources including seemingly lots of PUFAs and how they are different if at all. Should one be cutting off nuts and seeds from their diet for their PUFA content or is it enough to simply avoid the oils?
I'd say good quality nuts, but it is true some of them are high in omega6 and calories in general, you just have to moderate it. As for seeds, there are some natural antinutrients that give disgestive issue or reaction to people, also non-organic since those can be sprayed. So, for seeds it think it depends on how you tolerate them. Maybe pressure cooking can help reduce some of the antinutrients.
Almond is actually among the crops with heaviest use of Roundup sprayed on and other chemicals.
ideally it is said that nuts and seeds would have been hard to gather in large quantites in nature so they would not have been over indulged in and only eaten in small amounts. Plus a seeds goal is to spread so when eaten it will just be pooped out and possibly cause digestives issues because it can tear the inner lining of the stomach
guess that depends on the seed. some plants rely on beeing eaten and pooped out because they are geological distributed and also poop is natural fertilizer.@@JordanTelezino
I might assign seed oils equal danger with carbs, but the idea that you can now just eat all the carbs you want as long as you avoid seed oils is inappropriate. Don't tell people it's ALL seed oil and that excessive carbs are now good for you again. They are BOTH bad.
Carbs from potatoes or yams are not particularly bad, from sugar, yes. Seed oils are all bad. The problem for the most part is that after eating processed foods for decades or more, our bodies over-respond to even ok calories badly now. See the Tokeloans for evidence of this.
If you think about it most carbs are wrapped in processed foods. So if people get rid of the vast majority of processed foods for the oil sake, the carbs would go with them.
Where is the video that Dr. Knobbe says he talks about the biology aspect in detail? I couldn't find it on UA-cam. Does anybody know?
Thank you, this is such helpful info.
That video from 1911 with super awesome! Time capsule.
Since Dr. Knobbe's cogent case makes it clear that the likely driver behind insulin resistance are these seed oils, does that mean that people who practice low carb should start consuming carbs again, and just simply remove seed oils from their diet as the only intervention? My answer to that is no. While linoleic acid maybe the cause of metabolic dysfunction, and we should purge it from our diets to prevent insulin resistance, once you ALREADY HAVE insulin resistance, and all its associated effects - diabetes, hypertension, obesity, etc. - the quickest way to reverse insulin resistance is through a low carb diet in conjunction with some fasting protocol. Keep in mind, simply eschewing seed oils does not reverse the effects of insulin resistance as quickly, as it takes time for the body to remove linoleic acid from the adipose tissue.
It's no co-incidence that the majority of seed oils is found in processed foods and they are all carbs. I can't believe people blame meat/fat for various illnesses when the SAD today (and here in Australia and elsewhere) is made up predominantly of carbs. When reducing carbs you automatically reduce seed oils/processed foods. It's better for us so why not continue.
Even if you can find a way to purge linoleic acid from your diet, you definitely do NOT want to do that! It is an essential nutrient. It must be in your diet or you will die. However, arsenic is also an essential nutrient for humans (not for lab rats though), but that does not mean you need to take arsenic supplements. You don't need linoleic acid supplements either, although you do need a small amount linoleic acid.
What about coconut oil? Whats the verdict on that? Thank you
Coconut oil is perfectly natural, the Islanders have been using it for all the time people have lived on Islands. It's 95% cholesterol and just goes to prove that cholesterol isn't the danger, sugar is the killer.
What a silly lady who interrupts him right at the end of the presentation. Should have let him speak as long as he needed to!
I wouldnt call it food...its PICA ...people are addicted to chemicals...Ive given this info to people and they still continue to eat them...the addiction is real...
3% protein, 90% carbs.. No way
Yeah I’m skeptical too. That’s like ~15g of protein a day.
@@ernestwest6861 - And if you see pictures of the men they look more muscled than groups eating mod protein high sat fat, high protein high sat fat, high carbs high protein.
So it is strange that the most strongly muscled group is the one not only eating low protein but so low it wouldn't even meet the needs of a child.
That is strange. Although maybe harvesting those potatos is amazing energy and maybe they were eating 6k calories of Sweet Potato and getting 30Gs of protein.
Still, they picked Potato over Pork most of the time? Not credible. Not impossible, true, but I would need more evidence before believing it.
@@colinthomson5358 Yes, even if they ate a 4-6k calorie diet that would be 45 grams of protein a day. I think the most likely answer is that they periodically feast on high protein food like fish or pork. So while they may eat 3% protein on a regular basis, they are periodically getting big doses of protein. Also, even if their main diet was potatoes, 3% still wouldnt make sense. A medium potato has about 163 calories of which 4.3g are protein => about 10.5% of the calories are protein. Even if you do sweet potatoes, it is around 7.2% of the calories are from protein.
Also, interestingly, you can get complete protein from potatoes and could survive on just eating potatoes (you would need some sweet potatoes for vitamin A). You would eventually develop a deficit in a few trace minerals though. Especially B12 which is only naturally found in animal sources (and some sea vegetables)
@@ernestwest6861 Exactly. Eating "potato only diet" is a sort of fasting. The carb intake in absence of ANY fat ("very low fat diet") causes the glucose metabolism to be self regulating. It is also very satienting.
So this seems like cycling of semi-fasting (aka low-fat low-protein high-carb) with high-protein high-fat. In this context I can imagine it works pretty well.
But the key is the CYCLING.
Eating 3% protein, 90% carbs ALL THE TIME would be very detrimental...
It's true. There have been other peoples in that part of the world where the traditional dietary staple is the sweet potato that had similar macro ratios. The only apparent drawback to these very low protein diets is that the people grew up to be unusually short as adults, but other than that their health was by all measures excellent. It is always possible the measurements could be a bit inaccurate (in either direction!), but probably not by much.
So, if not seed oils, then what to replace with? Animal fats oils? or Olive Oils? sorry if this is a dumb question, but, he never gave the solution. just the problems
Tallow, fat from animals with ruminants (beef, lamb). Butter. Ghee (clarified butter). EVOO, EVCO. To avoid adulterated olive oil, stick with EVOO.
Palm oil, if you don't care about jungle and orangutan. Avocado oil is actually not as good as evoo for heat resistant, smoke point doesn't determine how well an oil resist oxidation. Lard lately can be tricky since swine can be fed high corn and soy diet, still it's better than straight up vegetable oils.
We've been sheep being led off a cliff for....who knows how long. In every facet of life we are mislead.
seed oils are not unhealthy?
Careful, you're fighting with fire. It's extremely dangerous and especially when eaten with sugary foods. There are good oils, coconut is the best, it's been used for thousands of years by native Islanders. They've survived even though coconut oil is 95% cholesterol, but it's natural. Seed oils are factory made.
Also during the same time frame the amount of jabs given to children and adults for various diseases went up as well and toxins we are exposed to and sedentary lifestyle so it's hard to separate out the cause of obesity and I wonder if it couldn't be a mix of all three.
@35:20 I think fruits are also to blame here, because japanese fruit is incredibly sweet, the fructuose must be extremelly high, and that also must be causing a lot of problems
See what Lustig has to say about fruit and fibre etc. And, the fructose content of fruits is way below what you'd get in a can of coke, for example 😉
@@neorich59 Fruits contain 100% fructose, which goes directly to the liver. fiber of not, you need to add those unnaturally high levels of fructose to the already sugar-saturated Japanese food 😉
Only use Ghee or butter for cooking. Then raw never heated olive oil for salads.
Forget olive oil. Forget salads.
@@aliendroneservices6621 please explain
@@manehbag732 unsaturated fats still get oxidized extremely quickly.
Olive oil would be fine... If you're picking it off the olive tree in your backyard right before making it for dinner, but otherwise not stable enough
I am guessing the "forget salads" but is based on antinutrients, for which I mostly just suggest eating meat and veggies during separate meals
@@OatmealTheCrazy No need to ever eat vegetables.
@@aliendroneservices6621 they're often medicinal and have compounds that meat never will.
I.e. Curcumin, sulforaphane, kuromanins (really all of flavonoids), NMN, and probably 500,000,000 more, but these are considered big ones
Thank you
you really should differentiate sugars. most of the carbs are usually tied to vitamins and fibers not pure processed high fructose
Japan is not overweight and sick. I've been in Japan many times and people are thin, generally healthy, they walk alot, the cycle to work, and their diet (compared to the west) is awesome. Portion sizes are small, food isn't too processed, you can find alot of healthy options even at 7eleven type stores. I love their Japanese curry haha. Other than that, great video.
Agreed and they consume copious amounts of refined rice, for those who think that carbs are "evil."
Other than that, are they not and haven't they always sauteed their food in sesame oil?
What's more important is they are the longest lived country on the planet. Not bad for an entire nation of carboholics.
Does anyone know if eating the seeds eg sunflower , pumpkin etc is ok ? Here in the UK , Fish and Chips is still a very popular ' take away ' food . Probably when I was a child ( 50 years ago ) this common meal was cooked in Lard or something similar , but now it is cooked in some common vegetable oil . Since seeing an earlier talk by Dr Knobbe I can't even have Fish and Chips as a very occasional ' treat ' .
a seeds goal is to spread. so when you eat it you can be always sure that you are not digesting it and that it will come out the other end the way it came in. Seeds can be irritating to the gut, cause inflammation and in nature would only be eaten in small amounts if that. However the best test is always see how you feel before and after eating it and if the effect is positive then you will be okay
@@JordanTelezino Thank you - seeds are one of those areas where you get conflicting advice .
Cook fish and chips yourself so that you have more quality control. Use cleaner options of fish, organic potatoes and organic coconut oil or butter or grass fed beef tallow. When you take quality control within your own domain you will not be cheated for someone else’s profit. Get rid of the middle man and develop your skills and abilities while saving money and taking that extra step for your health, health is wealth.
So this whole video is just observational correlations, not any controlled trials? There are observational studies that show the opposite also like: "Serum n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids and risk of death: the Kuopio Ischaemic Heart Disease Risk Factor Study".
Is Knobbe using correlations to imply causation? Im convinced that his argument is sound, but Im not certain the correlations point to causation in his graphs.
The gold standard for intentionally causing insulin-resistance is injection of seed oil. See: Tucker Goodrich.
I wonder if Low Carb Moderate Protein High Healthy Fats lifestyle is okay longterm? I‘ve changed to a Healthy Keto diet over 5 years ago. I feel much healthier, dropped all processed foods, sugar and refined carbs, plus I dropped over 80lbs of excess fat. Of course it‘s better than the Standard American Diet, but I do worry I have become too rigid and maybe I should cycle in some more carbs and fruit from time to time. They say Metabolic-Flexibility is the best... changing from Fat-Burner (Ketogenic) to Glucose-Burner and back again. I just know my joint-inflammation is gone since I‘ve started this diet, so I am hesitant to eat more carbs/fructose. I guess I will give it a try, just to see how my body reacts.
Remember the old adage when we didn't know so much: "Everything in moderation". Mind you that was at the time when all food was made from scratch, we didn't eat processed seed oils and even if we ate the odd bit of processed food like biscuits (cookies)/cakes they were made with eggs, butter and milk. Even potato chips were made using fat not oil. I think it is alright to have fruit and veg. I'm in my 50's, always weighed the same (50kg) am 167cm and ate like my Mum and Dad. Mostly animal foods with a bit of veg/fruit especially potatoes and I can do without bread. But I eat small. Try it and see.