Do you have contact with the guild they push amazing beginner guides but it looks like they haven’t updated they’re website much I’m curious if they’re going to continue with the beginner guides they push out
You're right but that's a weird example, yanqing was meta by default cause it was either Seele or Yanqing and you needed 2 teams, he was immediately dropped when we got our 2nd premium DPS in jingyuan
DHIL is also a great example. First he was op since he had the highest dmg, the jingliu got released and he fell a tier, after we got sparkle he rose to the top again, since she was perfect for him. OR Kafka. Seh was decent but not OP after her release, Bwith the Black Swan Release she also became top tier. The meta here will also change even 1 support character can make a once mid/low tier character shine.
@@awake3837 I have both, Dhil and JL dmg numbers are interchangeable he was only a tier below because people SUCK at sp management, that's why he was boosted back up with the release of sparkle who eliminates that issue for casuals
I think just going with a solid AFK level team like Cecia, Koko, Smokey, Rowan and Thoran/Antandra and getting their dupes is better. Most people won't be at end game for awhile. AFK levels is important for quite sometime.
This is me lol. I'm running Thoran/Cecia/Smokie/Odie/Antandra, with Koko/Vala swaps as needed for a well-rounded budget progression, has been treating me well.
hey Volkin! I love your content and watch most your videos but I just wanna leave some constructive criticism on this video. This tierlist was made by the number 1 guild and longest playing whales and f2p's, et it felt like I lot more of your own opinions from your perspective came through alot. For example when it came to Parisa there wasnt so much explanation as to why these gamers placed her in A tier and moreso your opinion about focusing on the other wilders in A tier like Arden and Damien. I want babble any more but I was just moreso interested on hearing more specific reasons about each placement from the ones that made this list as like being honest most of us by now know what the newer perspective on meta and what your opinions are so far. but yeah I hope that made sense, feel free to disregard what I said if you dont agree or appreciate it. just know it comes from a place of love and support. will be keen to see future videos
For those who don't know, Analytica is group that responsible with many guides in AFK Arena. They are respectful name in the community. They dissect heroes, pet (beast), end game comps (teams), end game contents and events really well.
i got my byron to legendary, and so is my cecia, and honestly, he's like constantly having like double the dmg of her. he's so much better then people give credit for frfr
@@Mystra we didnt say she doesnt and we know that she does. We're just saying cecia is good but byron is, too. And maybe people should acknowledge that
@bladeyboiii I would acknowledge that if it were true, like mine sucks where ever I put him so when I unit is bad in every team I put him in maybe it’s not the teams problem, it’s his
This is insane how much player hard carry the game sometimes !! Shout Out to the homies in SERVER 1 for the tirelist and their dedication for testing stuff out for the player base . MAD RESPECT
One thing i seen its this tier lists dont really matter, cause there is a comp you have to do to make it work, its not just pick all the SS mentioned and expect it to be the best team, every character has its use, for example i use Viperian and he placed on B saying it has no use atm and me working well with it.
I don't think B means "useless"... It just means that, assuming equal investment, there are always beter options. Of course, with enough investment and the right team comp, you can make anything work. And also, a tier list that reduces all characters to a single value won't tell you how well they do on any particular comp or game mode. Having said that... If you want a ballpark estimation of which characters will have the biggest impact on your account overall / which characters to aim for, this sort of tier list can be helpful. (Even if they are not as useful as more detailed guides that take team compositions recommended for different game modes into account.)
I would like to see some lists for both early game and late game. It's great to know that some units are amazing late game when you've got mythic copies of them, but for a lot of people, especially f2p, most will never see a mythic rarity S hero, so it would be good to know what heroes they can use both early game and late game and have a reasonable chance of getting to mythic abilities.
i remember one Arena match where the enemy Rhys was the only one left and my team kept running after him for like 15 seconds. they just kept going in circles. it was funny to watch XD
I'm on the PTR4 server, and my team is all red for now (Legendary rank) and it consists of: Smokey Rowan Cecia Lyca Antandra and honestly, Antandra is such a great f2p unit. Before the story mode rehash, power scaling was absolutely insane. And most of the time, I could only get by thanks to Antandra. She dies a lot, but that's her job as a tank. And she does it pretty well :'>
Parisa being low A tier with the things said about her is insane to me cuz like if its not Cecia on my victory screen, it’s ✨her✨ (or antandra ajshsjdj) I’m f2p, don’t play for the meta, and I have definitely been building her💐 I don’t see myself easily replacing her even when more characters come out tbh y’all wouldn’t even be able to pry her outta my cold dead ass hands lmaoo (sticking to this for as long as I possibly can until I really give into my next future bias)
Can attest to this, she's such a good choice! To preface, I'm a spender that almost didn't plan on using her, but got further copies of her from pulling. She's genuinely so versatile and consistent whether in arena, dream realm, or afk stages even without weapon upgrade. She has won me a match against Starlita - on my defensive team.
For me vala is usually top 1 or 2 in dreamreal (cus she is m+) and in pvp she is super scary, once she gets 1kill she just sweeps the team if my m+ cecia hasn't done that alr
Damn I’m really loving Walker and expected him to get better with more investment. I’ll stick to my guns tho. Somebody’s gotta give love to the shit tier characters.
i feel like if you invest in them and build a nice team around them, you can make them work. maybe you need longer than you would with meta units, but as long as you enjoy your teams, it's all that matters. when i'm done with a few units, i'll raise Parisa. her nuke damage is nice, she's getting a beautiful skin and i really like her overall. i WILL make her work XD
Game has a highly competitive PVP so I always take such tierlists with a grain of salt... For an example - Cecia+Viperian alone can nuke+CC and finish half of meta teams alone (simultaneous ult, and top tier ppl often use setups that include those two) yet I can't even see Viperian here, and on prydwen he's ranked "A" in PVP category? Really? While Igor is ranked "S", while getting totally oneshot-slapped i.e. perfectly countered by m+ Odie, who is in almost every setup anyways?.. Smokie is considered top-tier not for the healing, but for the multiple buffs AND most importantly his amazing-over-the-top DAMAGE when he activates his blue phase 3 AOE and totally MELTS bosses and hardest encounters, etc. etc. p.s. good vid tho, nice analysis, but I still have a feeling that such ranks are misleading because so much needed specific details are not explained
Can you please do a video about A-a-Ron for clearing stages? I got pretty lucky and unlocked him to M+ very fast but not too sure how to use him in stages, my other Wilders are Legendary or weaker.
Like he said at the start, this tier list is suited for the late end game where you're focusing on Arena, Dream realm and battle drills. She doesn't really offer much after that unfortunately
do you have a ptr account? maybe it's just me but i would be very nice to see the daily routine in the late game, just to visualize a bit better how the game is in a 1+ year old server
this game relies so heavily on pulls :( I absolutely adore the game and am having so much fun but so much of the end game teams feel like you need the top tier heroes (at mythic at least) to even have a CHANCE at being on the rankings, and if luck isnt on your side for the pulls it feels really pay to win.
It's a gotcha game if 100 players are spending f2p will be at rank 101 no matter what. But good news is most meta end game unit are A units that you can max out over time as f2p using dream shop 😁
Idk if you know this, but do they do balance patch's? Or once a character is released they don't touch them, and the metas are determined by new characters?
I'm not sure if this helps but in AFK Arena they would sometimes rework a character and buff them accordingly when I used to play. I quit a while ago so I'm not sure if they still are doing so. I assume once enough characters are out in this game then we will see some older characters receive buffs, but it is too early to tell.
This game was fun for the first few days but now I’m on DF 4 and every enemy is over 10 to 20 levels above me and I can’t do anything, I’m 20 pulls away from unlocking stargaze but I’ve exhausted every way of getting gems and now I’m stuck, I have to wait all night just to upgrade 2 characters once and still get one tapped by everything, does anyone have advice to help progress quickly?
I do feel like banner reruns will be a thing solely for the fact that rate up states that A tier units will be in them as well giving 8 per pull. It definitely sounds like rate up is going to have some variety and will probably bring things back as well, but like he said mostly speculation at this point but it's just such a common occurrence to have reruns for extremely popular units.
Massive shout out to Season and Analytica for all the testing and info on this one
www.afkanalytica.com/afk-journey/journey-tier-list
Do you have contact with the guild they push amazing beginner guides but it looks like they haven’t updated they’re website much I’m curious if they’re going to continue with the beginner guides they push out
These end game tier lists change with the release of every new character, I still remember Yanqing was considered meta in HSR on version 1.0.
Yup they will def change as we go. Slight difference with this one is that coz of ptr server ppl have been testing for a year now
You're right but that's a weird example, yanqing was meta by default cause it was either Seele or Yanqing and you needed 2 teams, he was immediately dropped when we got our 2nd premium DPS in jingyuan
DHIL is also a great example. First he was op since he had the highest dmg, the jingliu got released and he fell a tier, after we got sparkle he rose to the top again, since she was perfect for him. OR Kafka. Seh was decent but not OP after her release, Bwith the Black Swan Release she also became top tier. The meta here will also change even 1 support character can make a once mid/low tier character shine.
@@awake3837 he only fell off before e2. With e2+ he's the best dps in the game, but now that belongs to acheron.
@@awake3837 I have both, Dhil and JL dmg numbers are interchangeable he was only a tier below because people SUCK at sp management, that's why he was boosted back up with the release of sparkle who eliminates that issue for casuals
I think just going with a solid AFK level team like Cecia, Koko, Smokey, Rowan and Thoran/Antandra and getting their dupes is better.
Most people won't be at end game for awhile. AFK levels is important for quite sometime.
They're all good at end game too except aantandra so
This is me lol. I'm running Thoran/Cecia/Smokie/Odie/Antandra, with Koko/Vala swaps as needed for a well-rounded budget progression, has been treating me well.
@@cartman7570True!
@CameronStPeter I bet it has that sounds good :)
hey Volkin! I love your content and watch most your videos but I just wanna leave some constructive criticism on this video. This tierlist was made by the number 1 guild and longest playing whales and f2p's, et it felt like I lot more of your own opinions from your perspective came through alot. For example when it came to Parisa there wasnt so much explanation as to why these gamers placed her in A tier and moreso your opinion about focusing on the other wilders in A tier like Arden and Damien. I want babble any more but I was just moreso interested on hearing more specific reasons about each placement from the ones that made this list as like being honest most of us by now know what the newer perspective on meta and what your opinions are so far.
but yeah I hope that made sense, feel free to disregard what I said if you dont agree or appreciate it. just know it comes from a place of love and support. will be keen to see future videos
For those who don't know,
Analytica is group that responsible with many guides in AFK Arena. They are respectful name in the community.
They dissect heroes, pet (beast), end game comps (teams), end game contents and events really well.
i got my byron to legendary, and so is my cecia, and honestly, he's like constantly having like double the dmg of her. he's so much better then people give credit for frfr
What team did you use? For me he absolutely sucks so I want to see how to make him good
True. My byron has consistently done well idk why people shit on him.
Cecia brings cc and tanking. Byron doesn't.
@@Mystra we didnt say she doesnt and we know that she does. We're just saying cecia is good but byron is, too. And maybe people should acknowledge that
@bladeyboiii I would acknowledge that if it were true, like mine sucks where ever I put him so when I unit is bad in every team I put him in maybe it’s not the teams problem, it’s his
This is insane how much player hard carry the game sometimes !!
Shout Out to the homies in SERVER 1 for the tirelist and their dedication for testing stuff out for the player base .
MAD RESPECT
the whole Wilder roster in A tier lol
Very glad I rerolled for Smokey
One thing i seen its this tier lists dont really matter, cause there is a comp you have to do to make it work, its not just pick all the SS mentioned and expect it to be the best team, every character has its use, for example i use Viperian and he placed on B saying it has no use atm and me working well with it.
I don't think B means "useless"... It just means that, assuming equal investment, there are always beter options.
Of course, with enough investment and the right team comp, you can make anything work. And also, a tier list that reduces all characters to a single value won't tell you how well they do on any particular comp or game mode.
Having said that... If you want a ballpark estimation of which characters will have the biggest impact on your account overall / which characters to aim for, this sort of tier list can be helpful. (Even if they are not as useful as more detailed guides that take team compositions recommended for different game modes into account.)
I would like to see some lists for both early game and late game. It's great to know that some units are amazing late game when you've got mythic copies of them, but for a lot of people, especially f2p, most will never see a mythic rarity S hero, so it would be good to know what heroes they can use both early game and late game and have a reasonable chance of getting to mythic abilities.
Best video to date. Keep it up 😀. Good info, well thought out.
I just love how he just skip Byron and talk about Eironn instead. XD
I feel like Rhys is being slept over, lots of good dmg and when its well timed with other ults it rekts
Too inconsistent. His ult can miss
@@tzoied Good point, it does miss sometimes in a frustrating way
@@Really0riginalYou also can’t time him in most modes. Dream realm and Arena are both locked on auto.
i remember one Arena match where the enemy Rhys was the only one left and my team kept running after him for like 15 seconds. they just kept going in circles. it was funny to watch XD
Rhys and temesia or the ultimate stall combo
I'm on the PTR4 server, and my team is all red for now (Legendary rank) and it consists of:
Smokey
Rowan
Cecia
Lyca
Antandra
and honestly, Antandra is such a great f2p unit. Before the story mode rehash, power scaling was absolutely insane. And most of the time, I could only get by thanks to Antandra. She dies a lot, but that's her job as a tank. And she does it pretty well :'>
Parisa being low A tier with the things said about her is insane to me cuz like if its not Cecia on my victory screen, it’s ✨her✨ (or antandra ajshsjdj)
I’m f2p, don’t play for the meta, and I have definitely been building her💐 I don’t see myself easily replacing her even when more characters come out tbh y’all wouldn’t even be able to pry her outta my cold dead ass hands lmaoo (sticking to this for as long as I possibly can until I really give into my next future bias)
Can attest to this, she's such a good choice! To preface, I'm a spender that almost didn't plan on using her, but got further copies of her from pulling. She's genuinely so versatile and consistent whether in arena, dream realm, or afk stages even without weapon upgrade. She has won me a match against Starlita - on my defensive team.
new sub here. great content. keep it up bro
For me vala is usually top 1 or 2 in dreamreal (cus she is m+) and in pvp she is super scary, once she gets 1kill she just sweeps the team if my m+ cecia hasn't done that alr
Love the content been watching u since afk arena
Damn I’m really loving Walker and expected him to get better with more investment. I’ll stick to my guns tho. Somebody’s gotta give love to the shit tier characters.
i feel like if you invest in them and build a nice team around them, you can make them work. maybe you need longer than you would with meta units, but as long as you enjoy your teams, it's all that matters. when i'm done with a few units, i'll raise Parisa. her nuke damage is nice, she's getting a beautiful skin and i really like her overall. i WILL make her work XD
@@chngdm this is the first time I watch content for this game, my Parisa is legendary+ and her aoe is great
@@drygon9324sameee, my parisa is strong
Just watched this video after pulling a ton yesterday 🤦♂️. BUT I unlocked stargazing from it, put Dionel in there and BAM got him first 10 pull.
Just found out that.. setting>other>farlight pass.. u can claim daily login points.. which can be use to exchange it for ingame item
F2p btw
great stuff keep it coming 🙌
great informative content as always, thanks Volkin!
Love your content and effort ❤
Do you stream at all? would watch you muck around for hours!
great content, keep it up
This is good volkin are listening❤❤
Game has a highly competitive PVP so I always take such tierlists with a grain of salt... For an example - Cecia+Viperian alone can nuke+CC and finish half of meta teams alone (simultaneous ult, and top tier ppl often use setups that include those two) yet I can't even see Viperian here, and on prydwen he's ranked "A" in PVP category? Really? While Igor is ranked "S", while getting totally oneshot-slapped i.e. perfectly countered by m+ Odie, who is in almost every setup anyways?.. Smokie is considered top-tier not for the healing, but for the multiple buffs AND most importantly his amazing-over-the-top DAMAGE when he activates his blue phase 3 AOE and totally MELTS bosses and hardest encounters, etc. etc.
p.s. good vid tho, nice analysis, but I still have a feeling that such ranks are misleading because so much needed specific details are not explained
Satrana and Antandra were the only S-tiers I have seen.
Edit: my bad, it was a jiggle physics tier list.
Can you do a guide on what max ascensions we should invest into each character?
Nice.. Can you make one for afk levels as well ?
What i'm sad about is that brutus looks super bad ass but unfortunately has no usage in the end game phase :(
Bryon , if you say it like stewie from family guy his name makes perfect sense !! :)
Can you please do a video about A-a-Ron for clearing stages? I got pretty lucky and unlocked him to M+ very fast but not too sure how to use him in stages, my other Wilders are Legendary or weaker.
Which unit do you consider somewhat power creep proof more or less?
Where would Alsa stack up?
Antandra at B? But isn't she in the best team comp for PVE content in the game? Antandra, Cecia, Rowan, Smokey, Coco.
Like he said at the start, this tier list is suited for the late end game where you're focusing on Arena, Dream realm and battle drills. She doesn't really offer much after that unfortunately
So i have the best heroes build up to legendary +... dang my summons been one of best😂😂
do you have a ptr account? maybe it's just me but i would be very nice to see the daily routine in the late game, just to visualize a bit better how the game is in a 1+ year old server
LUCIUS BEST TANK
this game relies so heavily on pulls :( I absolutely adore the game and am having so much fun but so much of the end game teams feel like you need the top tier heroes (at mythic at least) to even have a CHANCE at being on the rankings, and if luck isnt on your side for the pulls it feels really pay to win.
It's a gotcha game if 100 players are spending f2p will be at rank 101 no matter what. But good news is most meta end game unit are A units that you can max out over time as f2p using dream shop 😁
do you have spredsheet on this?? so i can check all the time on yout list.. to guide my progression
When dose End Game start?
When youre 500+ id say the bottleneck gets pretty bad there i got a few days to go to get to mountains 2
Idk if you know this, but do they do balance patch's? Or once a character is released they don't touch them, and the metas are determined by new characters?
I'm not sure if this helps but in AFK Arena they would sometimes rework a character and buff them accordingly when I used to play. I quit a while ago so I'm not sure if they still are doing so. I assume once enough characters are out in this game then we will see some older characters receive buffs, but it is too early to tell.
Althoough your tielist is fine but you dont even play the game? how can you recommend that?
The first 3 C characters are not Bad,
BRUH WHERE’S BRUTUS?!? I maxed him out to Supreme+….
Am i the only one super confused on whats consider early, mid and end game? :D
I sort of go off the idea early is start to when you are making Mythic+ characters F2P, around AFK stage 400ish
Poor Cassadee’s name is forgotten.
Can someone explain wut Wish Hero Recruitment Resource and Wish Exclusive Equipment Resource are? I don't get wut they do ;v;
I tried to like this but I don't like the character design at all.
Smokey is the goat
ty
temesia?
SMOKEY NUMBER 1
Not my boi Rowan he got shafted into A rank
what do you mean by end game? sorry😭
So when can you exactly say you are in the end game part?
prydwen considers late game to be at afk stage 700+ with some supreme level units
no antandra sadge
Wilders and most Graveborne are really struggling in the game huh?
Like Cecia? The best Dps? And thoran? The best tank?
This game was fun for the first few days but now I’m on DF 4 and every enemy is over 10 to 20 levels above me and I can’t do anything, I’m 20 pulls away from unlocking stargaze but I’ve exhausted every way of getting gems and now I’m stuck, I have to wait all night just to upgrade 2 characters once and still get one tapped by everything, does anyone have advice to help progress quickly?
Reminder its gotcha AFK game, progress cap by days and pulls. Just have to be patient 😅
It's call AFK JOURNEY
@polarqueen-fz8gq did you even read what I said?
@@JJ-mn3nd Yes, just afk and eventually you will clear the stages. Its progress through afking.
Do games like this have reruns?
I expect units just get put to standard banner after their banner but waiting for confirmation
I do feel like banner reruns will be a thing solely for the fact that rate up states that A tier units will be in them as well giving 8 per pull. It definitely sounds like rate up is going to have some variety and will probably bring things back as well, but like he said mostly speculation at this point but it's just such a common occurrence to have reruns for extremely popular units.
analytica forever
Good
Dislyte icons? Lolol is that the end game?
no the true endgame is having custom pfp in game.
I already know cecia and vala will fall of HARD in the future.
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Pick me Win me
A S EX
ah the usual gacha games tier list which is always in change 😂🤌
greatly appreciate covering everything from the release, keep it up Volkin