Hi , on the monotone board at 14:05 min , i dont understand the value bet river : WE beat 6 combos 99 TT one club , WE are beat by AA KK one club , AK one club and flushes so thats a wrap river unless i miss somethin here , WE would have to be called by overpairs no club to be good wouldnt we? English classroom over here lol but i try , pardon me im french!
Great video as usual! I would love to see an update of how your NL100 challenge is going so far. So much timely & related content about regs not being able to beat the high rake lately.
Pete, it would be nice if you can share the intermediate results of the entire challenge,and not just this session or what the challenge "is completed".
Min 18:00 AKcc I m wondering if xF isn't just the best way to play this R in a nitty pool like this. My reason would be that on the one hand IP will struggle to find enough bluffs because on this exact runout they need to turn their pair+sd into a bluff to have any/enough bluffs, they obv never jam worse for value. On the other side I really struggle to see how we have more than 50% against calling range. On F and T I expect close to 0 fast plays from set/straight (which they have probably even more combos of than they should preflop) + they have 5-10 combos of the BDF. Hands we beat and get called are the remaining worse Kx which are only suited so probably 4-6 combos and I really doubt there are enough calldowns from TT-QQ/76s to make up for the range that beats us. Not saying the jam is bad just wondering if exploitively in a nitty pool like this xF R is just the way to go!?
I think push very cool. Much regs call all this King because we have tons bluff. But I think exploitative reason, we can bet 10% and fold on raise, because very rarely we see push with pair.
Do you guys have issues with gg freezing when you’re 4 tabling? It’s so frustrating when you have 40 BB committed to a pot and it just freezes…. and your hand gets folded. Always seems to happen when I’ve got the goods too.
Hi Pete, if you're playing 600 hands a day that will take you 500 days to reach your goal of 300k hands before sharing a graph. When we factor in days off that's going to be 2-3 years. Do you think it's acceptable to keep charging the rates you do for coaching for that long without any proof of ability, or even knowing whether you can beat 100nl until then? The top leaderboard grinders in R&C are playing 25k+ hands per day. Not saying you should go that extreme but you could easily get the sample within a few months if were serious about it. Thanks if you read this
It's unlikely Pete is going to give an update with a graph on 100NL challenge because it kind of goes against everything he has told us/the point of the challenge...i.e a small sample is meaningless. However would be interesting to hear things like how many hands/sessions, anything you have learnt/adjustments you are making
Haha last hand was almost the same I had but on 50 NL. Guy or bu I 3b AA from sb he 4b to like 38 bb i believe, I jamed he called with 66 runs once river 6 LOL
Hi chat and Peter. I just need to know.: In the hand where you had AQ clubs on the BTN and were cold 4b by the SB. His sizing is like 14.8BB. Solver likes to go BIG here OOP and use 21BB. Depending on the charts you are looking at. You mention you like his cold 4bet sizing. I respect that. I reckon you like his smaller cold 4b sizing because the bottom/bluff portion of your 3b range on BTN still has to fold to this sizing? Are you getting priced in with much of this range though, to this sizing? It comes down to this: I respect your approach to poker and I don't quite understand why you like this small cold 4bet sizing. Especially when villain is OOP. One explanation is that he has identified that your BTN 3b range vs LP is exploitatively wide and he thinks this sizing is sufficient to fold out enough of your range to make this sizing profitable. Thank you for your time and your videos.
Solvers don't dictate any 'proper' sizings, it uses a variety of sizings if you let it but generally they only use ones you tell it to use and balance around those sizings. The 'conventional' theory of Cold 4 betting is that A4s should rarely ever make it in there. It should be very value heavy where your 'bluffs' come from strong suited Ax, like AT, AJ, AQ, AK, AK, JJ+, KJs, KQs, so your range is generally top 4-5% of hands. As a function of you literally having AA, KK, or AKs and ready to stack off at least 25% of the time, you need to be going small, because why would they ever call you when your range is crushing. If you cold 4 bet a polar range, it doesn't make too much sense as you have to go through multiple uncapped ranges. If you do use a more polar range, it does make sens to size up a bit, but generally speaking since you haven't entered the pot, and cannot flat you should be going 'linear' and as such linear ranges tend to want to size smaller. (Hence why SB sizing is smaller than BB sizing for 3 bets).
@@PhonyBologna I see your point. However, is there an argument to made that a cold 4bet OOP should be bigger than a cold 4b IP as you: Prefer to win pre with a majority of your range instead of playing a large pot out of position. Also, if you do play a pot OOP the larger size is preferred as you reduce IP player's equity realisation advantage when the SPR is reduced?
@@Donker-Konger I mean pot will be sub 4 spr, it's instant stack off on most boards with a very substantial part of your range. It's a less polar range than if you were original raiser, you're supposed to have A5 and A4s as bluffs. When cold you shouldn't have these in theory hence the smaller size. Polar sizing is 2.6x OOP. Non polar sizing is smaller 2.1 to 2.2ish
Timing tells online are dumb, except for snap checks or snap bets which obviously mean you’re not thinking hard. But when regs time down to the bank every decision it irks me. Stop wasting my damn time no one is paying attention that closely. Take a few seconds, fine, but taking 20-30 in small pots it’s just overkill man
In the 4bp, BTN BB 9AA 6 Q When you jam AK river, You only win vs 1 AJs, 1 ATs and maybe a random Qx of spade. Appart from that you lose to 4 sets of 9, 3 AQo. It seems ultra thin, isnt it ?
@@couteauxduseignanx4625No the SPR of 4bet pots dictate your going for stacks there - if your not, you are leaving money on the tables Also, your assuming Villains 3bet into 4bet calling range has full weighted 99's and 66's - at 100nl, on GG, it's incredibly unlikely they have them, let alone fully weighted. 66's are probably pitched. 99s likely there 25% of the time, maybe a little more. Really the only danger is AQ, maybe QQ if Villain is a passive calling station postflop
I think it is the same at micros as well. I have seen the same dude whale off 300 BB with bottom pair, then next few hands be back at 500 BB because he got there. It is actual insanity at microstakes. It is like a fun guessing game if you are against an ultra nit with the nuts or an agg tard triple barreling 7 high.
GG R&C 50-200NL is an absolute joke of a pool, it's a complete nitfest and even most fish are playing tight, I play 100NL R&C and 35-40 VPIP fish are constantly folding top pairs against my value bets and showing me their hand or the other day one guy folded JJ on turn versus a small bet with no overcards on board in a 3bet pot SB vs CO and then showed me his hand , it's ridiculous
When will you share results so far?
he said when he gets to 100k hands
Hi , on the monotone board at 14:05 min , i dont understand the value bet river : WE beat 6 combos 99 TT one club , WE are beat by AA KK one club , AK one club and flushes so thats a wrap river unless i miss somethin here , WE would have to be called by overpairs no club to be good wouldnt we? English classroom over here lol but i try , pardon me im french!
Great video as usual! I would love to see an update of how your NL100 challenge is going so far. So much timely & related content about regs not being able to beat the high rake lately.
And two pairs also need to call river for QQ to be a value bet river i think , i just dont understand this thin value river you think?
Pete, it would be nice if you can share the intermediate results of the entire challenge,and not just this session or what the challenge "is completed".
Min 18:00 AKcc I m wondering if xF isn't just the best way to play this R in a nitty pool like this. My reason would be that on the one hand IP will struggle to find enough bluffs because on this exact runout they need to turn their pair+sd into a bluff to have any/enough bluffs, they obv never jam worse for value. On the other side I really struggle to see how we have more than 50% against calling range. On F and T I expect close to 0 fast plays from set/straight (which they have probably even more combos of than they should preflop) + they have 5-10 combos of the BDF. Hands we beat and get called are the remaining worse Kx which are only suited so probably 4-6 combos and I really doubt there are enough calldowns from TT-QQ/76s to make up for the range that beats us. Not saying the jam is bad just wondering if exploitively in a nitty pool like this xF R is just the way to go!?
I think push very cool. Much regs call all this King because we have tons bluff. But I think exploitative reason, we can bet 10% and fold on raise, because very rarely we see push with pair.
How much is your porcentage of rake back in GG? Can you please share
Do you guys have issues with gg freezing when you’re 4 tabling? It’s so frustrating when you have 40 BB committed to a pot and it just freezes…. and your hand gets folded. Always seems to happen when I’ve got the goods too.
Hi Pete, if you're playing 600 hands a day that will take you 500 days to reach your goal of 300k hands before sharing a graph. When we factor in days off that's going to be 2-3 years. Do you think it's acceptable to keep charging the rates you do for coaching for that long without any proof of ability, or even knowing whether you can beat 100nl until then?
The top leaderboard grinders in R&C are playing 25k+ hands per day. Not saying you should go that extreme but you could easily get the sample within a few months if were serious about it. Thanks if you read this
How can I see my red line?
With AQ of clubs isn’t folding out AK on the flop beneficial?
It is, but that hand does not fold often
omg a graph from peter clarke!
Biblically accurate angels were terrifying, but not as terrifying as that thumbnail.
It's unlikely Pete is going to give an update with a graph on 100NL challenge because it kind of goes against everything he has told us/the point of the challenge...i.e a small sample is meaningless.
However would be interesting to hear things like how many hands/sessions, anything you have learnt/adjustments you are making
Haha last hand was almost the same I had but on 50 NL.
Guy or bu I 3b AA from sb he 4b to like 38 bb i believe, I jamed he called with 66 runs once river 6 LOL
Hi chat and Peter.
I just need to know.:
In the hand where you had AQ clubs on the BTN and were cold 4b by the SB. His sizing is like 14.8BB. Solver likes to go BIG here OOP and use 21BB. Depending on the charts you are looking at. You mention you like his cold 4bet sizing. I respect that. I reckon you like his smaller cold 4b sizing because the bottom/bluff portion of your 3b range on BTN still has to fold to this sizing? Are you getting priced in with much of this range though, to this sizing?
It comes down to this: I respect your approach to poker and I don't quite understand why you like this small cold 4bet sizing. Especially when villain is OOP. One explanation is that he has identified that your BTN 3b range vs LP is exploitatively wide and he thinks this sizing is sufficient to fold out enough of your range to make this sizing profitable. Thank you for your time and your videos.
This is an unconventional cold 4bet sizing out of position. I think Peter might like it because it generates folds at the same rate as around 20BB?
Solvers don't dictate any 'proper' sizings, it uses a variety of sizings if you let it but generally they only use ones you tell it to use and balance around those sizings. The 'conventional' theory of Cold 4 betting is that A4s should rarely ever make it in there. It should be very value heavy where your 'bluffs' come from strong suited Ax, like AT, AJ, AQ, AK, AK, JJ+, KJs, KQs, so your range is generally top 4-5% of hands. As a function of you literally having AA, KK, or AKs and ready to stack off at least 25% of the time, you need to be going small, because why would they ever call you when your range is crushing.
If you cold 4 bet a polar range, it doesn't make too much sense as you have to go through multiple uncapped ranges. If you do use a more polar range, it does make sens to size up a bit, but generally speaking since you haven't entered the pot, and cannot flat you should be going 'linear' and as such linear ranges tend to want to size smaller. (Hence why SB sizing is smaller than BB sizing for 3 bets).
@@PhonyBologna I see your point. However, is there an argument to made that a cold 4bet OOP should be bigger than a cold 4b IP as you: Prefer to win pre with a majority of your range instead of playing a large pot out of position. Also, if you do play a pot OOP the larger size is preferred as you reduce IP player's equity realisation advantage when the SPR is reduced?
@@Donker-Konger I mean pot will be sub 4 spr, it's instant stack off on most boards with a very substantial part of your range. It's a less polar range than if you were original raiser, you're supposed to have A5 and A4s as bluffs. When cold you shouldn't have these in theory hence the smaller size. Polar sizing is 2.6x OOP. Non polar sizing is smaller 2.1 to 2.2ish
Timing tells online are dumb, except for snap checks or snap bets which obviously mean you’re not thinking hard. But when regs time down to the bank every decision it irks me. Stop wasting my damn time no one is paying attention that closely. Take a few seconds, fine, but taking 20-30 in small pots it’s just overkill man
This
I want to scream into the monitor, WE'RE JUST NOT THAT INTO YOU
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In the 4bp, BTN BB
9AA 6 Q
When you jam AK river,
You only win vs 1 AJs, 1 ATs and maybe a random Qx of spade.
Appart from that you lose to 4 sets of 9, 3 AQo.
It seems ultra thin, isnt it ?
@@couteauxduseignanx4625No the SPR of 4bet pots dictate your going for stacks there - if your not, you are leaving money on the tables
Also, your assuming Villains 3bet into 4bet calling range has full weighted 99's and 66's - at 100nl, on GG, it's incredibly unlikely they have them, let alone fully weighted. 66's are probably pitched. 99s likely there 25% of the time, maybe a little more. Really the only danger is AQ, maybe QQ if Villain is a passive calling station postflop
@@acehole7147 If we can go into which combo V has, then which one does he have that will call and lose to Hero hand ?
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yeah the 'random sh1t' factor on GGpokes makes handreading quite a guessing game sometimes.
I think it is the same at micros as well.
I have seen the same dude whale off 300 BB with bottom pair, then next few hands be back at 500 BB because he got there.
It is actual insanity at microstakes.
It is like a fun guessing game if you are against an ultra nit with the nuts or an agg tard triple barreling 7 high.
rake too damn high
Reg and Rec are so dumb. There are fishy regs and very solid recs. Skill is what matters, not how often someone plays.
GG R&C 50-200NL is an absolute joke of a pool, it's a complete nitfest and even most fish are playing tight, I play 100NL R&C and 35-40 VPIP fish are constantly folding top pairs against my value bets and showing me their hand or the other day one guy folded JJ on turn versus a small bet with no overcards on board in a 3bet pot SB vs CO and then showed me his hand , it's ridiculous
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