That’s something I never mentioned in my video, the ability to transfer your photo between Lightroom classic and Photoshop. That is a really handy feature that not a lot of people talk about 👍🏻
I'm using lightroom (non classic) and I don't see any disavantage in practical use. Actually, I think it's more for professional since you can have both local and back up online storage after your transferred your photos in lightroom. You can also share links to your clients for them to download/view their photos without using other software. Lightroom also have direct access to your RAW images locally. It's inside the lightroom library folder. That's why you can edit your photos even without internet. You can also create folders and sub folders in lightroom to organize your files and create presets as well. The only practical difference of lightroom and lightroom classic is the cloud storage. That's it.
Sharing links with your client is actually a very handy feature that not a lot of people talk about. And I love that about Lightroom. If I’m ever doing a small shoot and I’m working with an another photographer, I often edit all of my photos on Lightroom and just share the link. Ideally, I wanted this video under 8 minutes but in hindsight, I probably gloss over quite a few hidden features on both applications.
@PhotoFeaver LR and LRC are practically the same now, except the cloud storage, device compatibility and user interface. I think, you need to do more research and make another video.
2:47 Lightroom has had Local photo browsing and editing capabilities since Oct 2023. You can use the app and virtually every editing tool without ever syncing a single photo to the cloud. This was possibly one of the most significant updates added to Lightroom, and no catalogs are required. Of course, you can easily sync any of your images to the cloud and you can also just as easily archive any cloud-based photos (and their edits) locally, thereby freeing up cloud storage space. I’m a professional photographer (I also work on the Lightroom team at Adobe). Never have I felt at a disadvantage because I no longer use Classic. Of course, each individual has their own hierarchy of needs, but I don’t think it’s accurate to present Lightroom as a tool more suited for beginners or novices. While it does have a very approachable UI (great for new users), It’s actually exceptionally powerful and capable for seasoned photographers, as well. You also stated that Lightroom doesn’t have color calibration controls. It does, and can be found by clicking the ellipses in Edit mode.
Half information. The biggest difference between LR and LrC is not the cloud but the ability to edit images without importing into catalog (which is mandatory for LrC), on LR just browse the folder on your computer where image has been stored and edit it..(99.99% of all the photo editing softwares provide this option EXCEPT LrC)
Anything you do in LrC's Develop tab is actually done by Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). Both LrC and Ps run that as plug-in for raw processing and image editing. But Ps runs ACR native and LrC hides it under its UI. There recently have been things that were possible in ACR but not in LrC - that's due to LrC handling in its UI the settings for ACR. What most people don't know is you can run ACR sort-of stand-alone. You need to have Adobe's Bridge (Br) image browser installed. Go in Br to the file you need to edit and right click for the pop-up menu, click on Open in ACR. ACR will save your edits in a .acr sidecar file. I guess that opening the raw image in Ps will cause ACR to proceed from that sidecar. LrC ignores these sidecar files, e.g. on import or synchronise. Recently, Adobe came up with an AI raw processing profile and that's available in ACR (stand-alone and Ps), not yet in LrC. Having images in the cloud is a no-go for me. So I stick to LrC-ACR-Ps. There are AI things now that will upload your image to the cloud, though, and when you tell the SW to generate a different version or when you accept a version, my guess is that you actually are training Adobe's learning AI. The the question is to what extent an aspect of your image can end up somewhere, with someone, else. Have I been satisfied with ACR/LrC? Not for noise handling, not for demosaicking (removal of digital artefacts), not for upsampling over 100%. When they asked me for a review my answer consistently was "no, I will not recommend to friends, family, colleagues, as long as I need 3rd part add-ons or plug-ins in order to get properly done what I believe should be possible with your apps." Up to 4K@27"or A3 size prints, it's not too bad. At larger sizes, meh. As I went through a step-by step system migration, though, the subscription worked to support my raw processing and subsequent editing. Today I might prefer PhotoLab by DxO but I still need Ps. PL has excellent noise processing, excellent detail retrieval or no loss thereof. My camera brand's raw processor simply was not good enough in the noise department. (What the naive call colour noise or luminance noise in most cases is residual Bayer noise and follows from inadequate raw processing.)
I think you can edit without cataloguing your photos in catalogues and collections, They’re just in one big import folder, but I definitely get what you mean. That is sometimes frustrating when you just want to quickly edit one or two photos. But I guess that’s why Lightroom and Lightroom classic both exist 👍🏻
Thank u James, very helpful info & nicely explained 👏👏👍😊
Glad it was helpful!
Totally agree with everything you've said.
I don't remember the last time I used Lr, I don't even want to pay for it. I toggle between LrC and Ps.
That’s something I never mentioned in my video, the ability to transfer your photo between Lightroom classic and Photoshop. That is a really handy feature that not a lot of people talk about 👍🏻
you can adjust the colour calibration on lightroom cloud. It's under the 3 dots on the right and then you click on colour calibration.
You’re right, just found it thanks to your comment. It’s definitely hidden though. I have been using Lightroom for years and never found it. Thanks 🙏🏻
I'm using lightroom (non classic) and I don't see any disavantage in practical use. Actually, I think it's more for professional since you can have both local and back up online storage after your transferred your photos in lightroom. You can also share links to your clients for them to download/view their photos without using other software.
Lightroom also have direct access to your RAW images locally. It's inside the lightroom library folder. That's why you can edit your photos even without internet.
You can also create folders and sub folders in lightroom to organize your files and create presets as well.
The only practical difference of lightroom and lightroom classic is the cloud storage. That's it.
Sharing links with your client is actually a very handy feature that not a lot of people talk about. And I love that about Lightroom. If I’m ever doing a small shoot and I’m working with an another photographer, I often edit all of my photos on Lightroom and just share the link. Ideally, I wanted this video under 8 minutes but in hindsight, I probably gloss over quite a few hidden features on both applications.
@PhotoFeaver LR and LRC are practically the same now, except the cloud storage, device compatibility and user interface. I think, you need to do more research and make another video.
2:47 Lightroom has had Local photo browsing and editing capabilities since Oct 2023. You can use the app and virtually every editing tool without ever syncing a single photo to the cloud. This was possibly one of the most significant updates added to Lightroom, and no catalogs are required. Of course, you can easily sync any of your images to the cloud and you can also just as easily archive any cloud-based photos (and their edits) locally, thereby freeing up cloud storage space. I’m a professional photographer (I also work on the Lightroom team at Adobe). Never have I felt at a disadvantage because I no longer use Classic. Of course, each individual has their own hierarchy of needs, but I don’t think it’s accurate to present Lightroom as a tool more suited for beginners or novices. While it does have a very approachable UI (great for new users), It’s actually exceptionally powerful and capable for seasoned photographers, as well. You also stated that Lightroom doesn’t have color calibration controls. It does, and can be found by clicking the ellipses in Edit mode.
Im still using LRC mainly because I want local files and smart collections
LRC FTW
Half information. The biggest difference between LR and LrC is not the cloud but the ability to edit images without importing into catalog (which is mandatory for LrC), on LR just browse the folder on your computer where image has been stored and edit it..(99.99% of all the photo editing softwares provide this option EXCEPT LrC)
Anything you do in LrC's Develop tab is actually done by Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). Both LrC and Ps run that as plug-in for raw processing and image editing.
But Ps runs ACR native and LrC hides it under its UI. There recently have been things that were possible in ACR but not in LrC - that's due to LrC handling in its UI the settings for ACR.
What most people don't know is you can run ACR sort-of stand-alone. You need to have Adobe's Bridge (Br) image browser installed. Go in Br to the file you need to edit and right click for the pop-up menu, click on Open in ACR.
ACR will save your edits in a .acr sidecar file.
I guess that opening the raw image in Ps will cause ACR to proceed from that sidecar.
LrC ignores these sidecar files, e.g. on import or synchronise.
Recently, Adobe came up with an AI raw processing profile and that's available in ACR (stand-alone and Ps), not yet in LrC.
Having images in the cloud is a no-go for me. So I stick to LrC-ACR-Ps.
There are AI things now that will upload your image to the cloud, though, and when you tell the SW to generate a different version or when you accept a version, my guess is that you actually are training Adobe's learning AI.
The the question is to what extent an aspect of your image can end up somewhere, with someone, else.
Have I been satisfied with ACR/LrC? Not for noise handling, not for demosaicking (removal of digital artefacts), not for upsampling over 100%. When they asked me for a review my answer consistently was "no, I will not recommend to friends, family, colleagues, as long as I need 3rd part add-ons or plug-ins in order to get properly done what I believe should be possible with your apps."
Up to 4K@27"or A3 size prints, it's not too bad. At larger sizes, meh.
As I went through a step-by step system migration, though, the subscription worked to support my raw processing and subsequent editing. Today I might prefer PhotoLab by DxO but I still need Ps. PL has excellent noise processing, excellent detail retrieval or no loss thereof. My camera brand's raw processor simply was not good enough in the noise department. (What the naive call colour noise or luminance noise in most cases is residual Bayer noise and follows from inadequate raw processing.)
I think you can edit without cataloguing your photos in catalogues and collections, They’re just in one big import folder, but I definitely get what you mean. That is sometimes frustrating when you just want to quickly edit one or two photos. But I guess that’s why Lightroom and Lightroom classic both exist 👍🏻