For TBB, the primary blocker she runs into in void campaign is Valkyrie. It's no longer a problem in chapter 6, but until then Valk is lethal to CC teams
@@Wraec Is she really? I'm at 3-6-10 with SWJ main (DT 1) and TBB secondary and I'm dreading 3-7-2 (Valk FS). I heard after the chapter 6 changes, they have much lesser health now so other heroes that are attack dependent are harder. You're a more reliable source since you have more progress, what's the hardest wave now?
@@duke4088 the hardest Wave in Island 7 was a wave with Gaggie. Quite a lot of people stuck there. Dont remember the exact number. Had both transcendence Gaggie and SQH
Can I get a suggestion? I've gone "f2p", rank 6 vip, level 252. I have LOFA with maxed core, needing materials to Destiny awaken. I have SQH and just got PDE a few days ago. Currently on 2-2-2. With so many new heroes out, should I change up the team or focus on anything else?
Very nice information Wraec! I'm currently running a LFA 6-trans team (LFA, SQH, PDE, TBB, MFF, HHA). I have DT on LFA and TBB, do you reckon I should now focus getting cores for SQH/PDE or should I save for DTV when I make a DTV transition (this is something that I have been heavily considering lately).
I already have the core of SWJ... but I still have the trans heroes Halora, Elena and Aspen. they don't have a core yet... Do I have to replace/exchange the trans hero?🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Very informative! Do you have any advice on what my second transcendent hero should be? I got a seat on the hype train so I went with TBB as the first trans. It's fun and I like her, but I'm going crazy over deciding my path forward. Another option is to replace her with some other transcendent hero, but preferably I would like to keep going with her as a owner or tenant.
Very difficult. She isnt really tenant for any hero that is worth building as second transcendence hero nor are her tenants really insane. Maybe BQA as tenant for her and support for your team. Other option would be to use her as CC support and build a DTV followed by DTV tenants
@@Wraec Thanks for the suggestions, Wraec! Going with BQA next could make sense. At the same time, I'm uncertain about her contributions as support. Possibly a decent healer. The buff from consuming 4 Queen Cores is nice, but in some scenarios it won't happen until round 3-4, which is late. What's your opinion on Scorching Curse? I want to think it's good, but it's slow build-up. I like the idea with DTV (watched your vid on him). My only concern is his Destiny transition tree, which in my opinion looks like support, except from the buffs he gives exclusively to self in the last node (Moon Abyss). Though that's so far in the future that I maybe shouldn't worry about it.
Any advice for me? I only have 4 trans as of the moment. My main is SSM hes destiny transitioned 2 already, I have his tenant SWJ fully sublimed and core, just waiting for a possible core swap event. If a core swap will happen, is it a good idea to change SWJ to HHA? Im currently at 3-4-6 and cant move forward anymore because I only have SSM,SWJ,SQH and LofA. Did I went to ahead of myself on making SSM destiny 2? Hes level 90 and I can make him destiny 3 anytime soon. Also, am close to 5h trans. Is MFF a good idea to get? Thanks
Hi Wraec, I'm stuck with SSM team and cannot swap to TBB or DTV because of core of origin. What would be the best team for me overall? currently my team is: House 1 SSM House 2 LFA (level 90+) House 3 FQV (level 30-40 only) SQH HHA MFF should I swap FQV to PDE or DGN?
So I managed to get lucky enough to awaken an A- LFA and almost have his core to noble. Would you recommend getting a tenant like SQH's next to continue powering up LFA or is getting the core of someone like TBB better for progress? What do you think?
I would only recommend getting the core for SQH or PDE before TBB if you want to put Destiny Transition on either of those two otherwise go for the TBB Core :-)
The DTV meta has an advantage by having DGN as such a good core, which makes it possible to make your destiny and make the most of the core in addition to increasing DTV's damage due to being a tenant, right?
I have another plan(Don t know if it s good or not) :use supporter core, unlock his destiny, use him as tenant(destiny and cores from supporters are supportive)example :DTV and DGN
Against Void Boss 1 SAHY Core is best. If you struggle because pf survivability against Void Boss 2 use SAHY, if you struggle because of CC consider PDE Core though in general you shouldnt struggle because of CC against Void Boss 2 if you keep him locked down with TBB
Its still a good core. Good for SE but I dont like how inconsistent the Buff is in early rounds and how it can change speed order. Probably still a top contender in PvE but behind the ones I listed
Strongly disagree with SAHY core being top PVE core. - Avg Players don't have enough resources to maintain SAHY just for the core. - Avg Players are not looking for clearing stage 7 of VC so no need for SAHY to begin with. - Avg players care more about SE damage numbers than clearing VC 7. To the next point, most of player base setup their accounts around SE and last season top 16 guilds hitting new Boss. It's no secret that you need PDE core as high as possible for to survive against new Boss. So top 3 for PvE should be TBB, PDE and DGN respectively.
I used SAHY in every stage of VC other than Island 1 and 2 (I didnt own the core when I beat Island 1 and 2). You actually dont need PDE Core to survive against the new Boss. It is a great core for that but not neccessary. Also if you dont feel like SAHY is a good choice for your Account use DGN Core. Its on the list for a reason. Optimising for SE in disregard of other PvE Content might be a choice many players take but its also quite the horrible one in terms of actually achieving good SE damage. Also I would argue that the average Idle Heroes player has never seen the new SE Boss outside of a youtube video. Thanks for your comment :-)
Agree. Most average player will go for vulcan or aspen as the damage dealer. It is very hard to obtain 2 noble cores or above at the early game. I think that they should go for the damage dealer core (dtv lfa) so they can go transition asap. Then the core for their strongest support such as pde or dgn
@ik8870 , the "average player" is more likely to build/maintain SAHY as a tenant for HHA then see the new SE boss. Should be about the same rate really, but I'm not sure why you are arguing this am impossible core to acquire if one learns its good. Folks WILL have him on their teams.
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For TBB, the primary blocker she runs into in void campaign is Valkyrie. It's no longer a problem in chapter 6, but until then Valk is lethal to CC teams
Later on she is most definitely lethal aswell :-)
@@Wraec Is she really? I'm at 3-6-10 with SWJ main (DT 1) and TBB secondary and I'm dreading 3-7-2 (Valk FS). I heard after the chapter 6 changes, they have much lesser health now so other heroes that are attack dependent are harder. You're a more reliable source since you have more progress, what's the hardest wave now?
@@duke4088 the hardest Wave in Island 7 was a wave with Gaggie. Quite a lot of people stuck there. Dont remember the exact number. Had both transcendence Gaggie and SQH
Valk always always always sucks. Doesn’t matter when. lol
10:00 PVE starts here...#3: Natalia, #2: Betty, #1: Holmes Young (honorable mentions, FQV/MFF/SWJ)
Can I get a suggestion? I've gone "f2p", rank 6 vip, level 252. I have LOFA with maxed core, needing materials to Destiny awaken. I have SQH and just got PDE a few days ago. Currently on 2-2-2.
With so many new heroes out, should I change up the team or focus on anything else?
Very nice information Wraec! I'm currently running a LFA 6-trans team (LFA, SQH, PDE, TBB, MFF, HHA). I have DT on LFA and TBB, do you reckon I should now focus getting cores for SQH/PDE or should I save for DTV when I make a DTV transition (this is something that I have been heavily considering lately).
Same line up for me but dt2 LFA, I'm going for sqh cores to dt her to pump more stats to my LFA.(got just a primary core on tbb)
I already have the core of SWJ... but I still have the trans heroes Halora, Elena and Aspen. they don't have a core yet... Do I have to replace/exchange the trans hero?🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Very informative! Do you have any advice on what my second transcendent hero should be? I got a seat on the hype train so I went with TBB as the first trans. It's fun and I like her, but I'm going crazy over deciding my path forward. Another option is to replace her with some other transcendent hero, but preferably I would like to keep going with her as a owner or tenant.
Very difficult. She isnt really tenant for any hero that is worth building as second transcendence hero nor are her tenants really insane. Maybe BQA as tenant for her and support for your team. Other option would be to use her as CC support and build a DTV followed by DTV tenants
@@Wraec Thanks for the suggestions, Wraec! Going with BQA next could make sense. At the same time, I'm uncertain about her contributions as support. Possibly a decent healer. The buff from consuming 4 Queen Cores is nice, but in some scenarios it won't happen until round 3-4, which is late. What's your opinion on Scorching Curse? I want to think it's good, but it's slow build-up.
I like the idea with DTV (watched your vid on him). My only concern is his Destiny transition tree, which in my opinion looks like support, except from the buffs he gives exclusively to self in the last node (Moon Abyss). Though that's so far in the future that I maybe shouldn't worry about it.
Any advice for me? I only have 4 trans as of the moment. My main is SSM hes destiny transitioned 2 already, I have his tenant SWJ fully sublimed and core, just waiting for a possible core swap event.
If a core swap will happen, is it a good idea to change SWJ to HHA? Im currently at 3-4-6 and cant move forward anymore because I only have SSM,SWJ,SQH and LofA.
Did I went to ahead of myself on making SSM destiny 2? Hes level 90 and I can make him destiny 3 anytime soon.
Also, am close to 5h trans. Is MFF a good idea to get? Thanks
Hi Wraec, I'm stuck with SSM team and cannot swap to TBB or DTV because of core of origin. What would be the best team for me overall?
currently my team is:
House 1 SSM
House 2 LFA (level 90+)
House 3 FQV (level 30-40 only)
SQH
HHA
MFF
should I swap FQV to PDE or DGN?
So I managed to get lucky enough to awaken an A- LFA and almost have his core to noble. Would you recommend getting a tenant like SQH's next to continue powering up LFA or is getting the core of someone like TBB better for progress? What do you think?
I would only recommend getting the core for SQH or PDE before TBB if you want to put Destiny Transition on either of those two otherwise go for the TBB Core :-)
The DTV meta has an advantage by having DGN as such a good core, which makes it possible to make your destiny and make the most of the core in addition to increasing DTV's damage due to being a tenant, right?
Core effects should have animations, Kinda shows how budget the Devs can be at times
Yeah. The older cores often had nice animations even but not the new ones
Wraec what core is best for VC boss 1, I'm stuck on lvl 9 for some time. I can use DTV, LOFA, DGN, SAHY or HHA right now.
I like to use SAHY Core for void boss 1. Great combination of heal and attack buffs
I have another plan(Don t know if it s good or not) :use supporter core, unlock his destiny, use him as tenant(destiny and cores from supporters are supportive)example :DTV and DGN
This video is about the cores to activate in fights
@@kimf.wendel9113 I am talking about intro
Just started playing again.. got a core for LOFA my only one
very good video - i have been looking for something like this..
Thanks for watching :-)
thank you for this!
I was actually thinking that the first place is SAH s core in PVP
It was in the past but not anymore. Is barely used in PvP
insane roll on betty
whats the best core for Void Invasion Bosses
Against Void Boss 1 SAHY Core is best. If you struggle because pf survivability against Void Boss 2 use SAHY, if you struggle because of CC consider PDE Core though in general you shouldnt struggle because of CC against Void Boss 2 if you keep him locked down with TBB
What about mff core where would you rank that
Its still a good core. Good for SE but I dont like how inconsistent the Buff is in early rounds and how it can change speed order. Probably still a top contender in PvE but behind the ones I listed
Strongly disagree with SAHY core being top PVE core.
- Avg Players don't have enough resources to maintain SAHY just for the core.
- Avg Players are not looking for clearing stage 7 of VC so no need for SAHY to begin with.
- Avg players care more about SE damage numbers than clearing VC 7.
To the next point, most of player base setup their accounts around SE and last season top 16 guilds hitting new Boss. It's no secret that you need PDE core as high as possible for to survive against new Boss.
So top 3 for PvE should be TBB, PDE and DGN respectively.
I used SAHY in every stage of VC other than Island 1 and 2 (I didnt own the core when I beat Island 1 and 2). You actually dont need PDE Core to survive against the new Boss. It is a great core for that but not neccessary. Also if you dont feel like SAHY is a good choice for your Account use DGN Core. Its on the list for a reason. Optimising for SE in disregard of other PvE Content might be a choice many players take but its also quite the horrible one in terms of actually achieving good SE damage. Also I would argue that the average Idle Heroes player has never seen the new SE Boss outside of a youtube video. Thanks for your comment :-)
Agree. Most average player will go for vulcan or aspen as the damage dealer. It is very hard to obtain 2 noble cores or above at the early game.
I think that they should go for the damage dealer core (dtv lfa) so they can go transition asap. Then the core for their strongest support such as pde or dgn
@ik8870 , the "average player" is more likely to build/maintain SAHY as a tenant for HHA then see the new SE boss. Should be about the same rate really, but I'm not sure why you are arguing this am impossible core to acquire if one learns its good. Folks WILL have him on their teams.
Helpful video! You should do one like this but for destiny transition.
Thats a hard thing to do. I could do one for Top PvE Damage dealers maybe but thats probably obvious for a lot of people
@@Wraecthat would be nice! With lineups for different game modes
first
Thanks for watching :-)
@@Wraec How could i not? the videos are way too interesting to pass on 😆❤️