Sean and Ethan Review The Five Nights at Freddy’s Movie! | Brain Leak Ep. 29
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2023
- This week, the Internet was abuzz with FNAF, so, naturally, Sean and Ethan have to give their official ratings! Is it a 10/10...did it bother them beyond disbelief? Maybe it’s somewhere in the middle? Listen to find out!
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MatPat already revealed that Markiplier was going to be the first security guard. It would have been cool to see him in it, but maybe he can be in the second or third movie.
Mark was offered a role but had to deny it coz the timing coincided with his own movie, Iron Lungs.
@@tashinatorgaming9674 Yeah I know, but Sean acted like the role he was offered is a secret. Matpat said his role would have been the first security guard, but they had to find someone else instead
If only, though how likely is it that he'd actually be in one. Feels like that was just something they said.
Scott said himself on a UA-cam comment that one of his goals for the second movie is to have Mark in it.
@@JeskidoYT that's good
To be fair, the death of Jeff contains both Foxy’s “buh duh bum bum bum” singing AND the original jumpscare sound.
was foxys singing accurate though? It sounded off when I saw it...
@@Luje_YT2020 Pretty sure it was slightly changed, but still similar
@@Luje_YT2020 Its the same song, its just longer in the movie then in the games so thats why it might sound a little different
And also with that first call when Mike gets to the pizza place William ends the call with "See you on the flip side" which *is* a reference and almost a direct quote from a FNAF 1 call, so they did not even catch the actual references they were hoping/looking for lol.
Ngl, I never knew foxy could sing until I watched the movie. I always thought it was either Freddy or bonnie in the games, so it caught me off guard lol
"I want the actual foxy sounds from the game!" You take that back, Kellen Goff did Foxy's dum dum song and its amazing lol.
classic hacksepticeye
Kellen Goff??? Shumei Sasaki????
I love Kellen but I'm with Jack here
What about all the other stuff they just didn't even try putting in?
About Matpat it should be said that Scott Cawthon wanted him to do that line, in fact he wanted him to do it in the exaggerated way it was in the video but they compromised with what we got instead lol
woooowww silly scott smh
I think the most goofiest part of the movie was Golden Freddy fitting inside the Taxi, and the building randomly deciding it should fall apart at the end of the movie because the big bad was defeated.
I assumed that was the anger of the children that began to dismantle it. It didn’t fall down completely.
I thought at first Golden Freddy maybe was just there visually, but then why would he weigh anything when getting in the car? That part didn’t make ANY sense and if you look at the bottom of the screen when he’s in the back it’s so bad looking with the CGI trying to make it look like he’s scrunching his legs up or something but just registers as a mangled mess to the eyes when it’s shown quickly
Nah the goofiest part was the whole movie. It felt like a joke the whole time. it was an entertaining movie to watch but not what I was expecting nor what i initially wanted. Why in the heck were they so chill??? they could clearly kill Mike at so many parts yet they didn't even try. I only watched it one time, but as an actual fan of the games I didn't really get much enjoyment sorry. I was never really into the books as they were all over the place and every series had different lore. the movie was a 8.5/10 for me.
@@SarahM-ku4bu that’s generous. I would say a 6 for me. It wasn’t as gory as I hoped and wanted, but I get why because he wanted to appeal to kids and parents. But there’s big plot holes, not enough Matthew Lillard or build up to him being Afton. Like even if Scott was like okay alternate universe in the universe, I mean there’s still not enough for me to justify bringing Matt on as the villain for like 5 minutes even though I knew he was. And there are plot holes. The acting was good for what they were given, the props and costumes are great. Cory and Matt did well. Cory’s part was funny I think.
To answer your Q, They weren’t really chill with him though. They did attack him. But the only reason they didn’t kill him was Abby. However, then why didn’t they kill him before Abby showed up? You can assume one of them was the little brother then I suppose? I kind of assumed the cupcake was garret tbh because he’s the littlest. But idk. I know in the games it’s assumed that it’s the spirit of Susie’s dog, which is how Afton lured Susie in (chica). Or it could be that because Mike was dreamscaping or whatever and could talk to them that they saw use in him somehow because he could speak with them? I’m not sure.
I wish the stories of the kids would have been expounded on as well so we knew who was who. My guess is the blonde is Freddy but he doesn’t control all the animatronics he’s just the ring leader. But then he’s seen also as foxy? Idk that was a bit all over the place. I wish they talked more about like the bite of 87 and actual lore hits as well. Idk I know Scott himself wrote this, but it just seemed… thrown together? I don’t hate it. I liked watching it, but for me it’s like if it didn’t exist, I wouldn’t be sad. I can get more lore crunch and exposition in Wendigoons FNAF iceberg video than this. It was kinda disappointing but still cool to see the animatronics come to life and it be a movie.
I think the building feel apart at the end because the spirits were really angry because of William
Correction, at least 90% of filming with the animatronics was with actual animatronics. Suits were used for stunts as to not damage the very expensive animatronics. I believe the scene where Bonnie falls when building the fort was a person in a costume. But stuff like them preforming on stage, walking around and stuff like that, it’s actual animatronics
Well, the performing on stage was also the people in the suit. Generally speaking, they used real people for the complicated motions and animatronics for simple motions. So most of the performing, walking, and interacting with Abby was done with people inside. However, Foxy was only an animatronic, and there were many scenes of the other three that were also animatronics.
Ethan mentioning fan service made me instantly think about how much they focused on Foxy's feet then I instantly realized that's not the fan service he meant 💀
The scene where the foxy kid turns around and screams and there's black tears running down his face - I wish the whole movie had that energy.
Yes!!! I’m REALLY hoping that Scott ups the scare factor in the next two movies. The games scared me SO much, and the movie wasn’t scary at all? It was so strange
That was one of the only things in the movie that genuinely kinda scared me. Because it was so unexpected from the situation.
That and the god damn Balloon boy figure got me
That was one of the most garbage jumpscares I've ever seen in a movie. Terrible CGI, completely random and it just wasn't scary.
Side note, Ethan did a fucking great job with is documentary premiere. It got me all hyped up and emotional. I’m so happy I bought tickets. 💙
yes yes yes!!!
Same I had to watch it later then the og time cause I watched the fnaf movie, his documentary made me emotional just because I can relate to it and the stuff he said about not being good enough and stuff like that
@@LyraPyxisVT 100%, i watched it later to and it hit so hard, such a good documentary it’s nice to see ethan more serious
@@LyraPyxisVTme too. It’s so sweet to know that he doesn’t have to feel alone bc so many of us are just like him.
@@bridgetschwalmmI love his silly goofy side but yeah I agree, it shows the realness in every “funny friend”
I really wish the movie went like this: it’s just mikes 5 nights there, and we slowly learn that he’s there to find out more what happened to the kids and his brother and about his dad. More dark lighting and quiet scenes or just listening to the animatronics moving around his office. More of the “it’s me” stuff could happen, since it’s his brother trying to tell him it’s him.
That would've been incredibly boring omg
Yeah me and my partner agreed on this. We didn't understand the point of Abby at all, and the whole Aunt Jane, school, etc parts. Idk why they needed to shoot so many scenes at home. I also really disliked the office design. I mean, the pizzaria was okay, but the office should've looked like the actual games offices, or at least a mix of them? It felt too much like a cheap fanmade movie than a big horror production.
we know what happened to Mike's dad, though
@@cursedGalataeaas if most of the movie wasnt already boring
@@cursedGalataeabetter then the shit that we got
*cough* *cough* the fort scene…
I don’t give a shit if they are possessed by children, that is just cringe in a movie based of a popular game franchise.
As an FNAF fan myself, and the movie tells me about the lore that I already knew, I still loved it. It just tells that the movie respects the source material, and that's what I want in any live action adaptations.
Sure, you got something faithful (visually) to the game, but we got a bad, boring movie. The fandom deserved so much better, but yall seem to desperate to just have seen the game adapted to any degree that you're accepting the turd you were given. It was such a bore and couldn't even nail stupid, silly fun, much less actual horror. So much wasted potential.
@@TheBretchenShow alright mate chill out, it wasnt that bad. It was ok and that's fine. Saying that it's a shit of a movie is just silly if anything.
I personally feel like it didn’t respect the source material
@@lucky4d725I mean he’s kinda right tho. I know people who are big fans of the games/series and they said they have a love/hate relationship with the movie. Since it was visually good sometimes, but things they changed/added made it goofy. Like giving them the goofy red eye glow. The movie was mid.
@@Acesspaded "they changed some aspects which doesnt harm the movie at all but makes it stand out from the original source material, therefore the movie is mid" that is what you sound like. the movie was enjoyable, and didnt take itself too seriously, considering the source material
I genuinely loved the movie, and I didn’t just turn my brain off. Everything I saw was connected to either the lore, a reference, an Easter egg, or something else that made me even more excited. The animatronics, while not really scary, they felt so intense and in those moments they convey the weight of these giant robots incredibly well. Those kills were all so badass, and I was surprised that they even made the scenes with the cupcake share some of that intensity.
The scenes where we see more of the personality of the animatronics was so fun, and the pillow fort was just a really cute moment. I didn’t think it detracted from anything because the animatronics are just confused kids at the end of the day, and only do bad things when instructed by Afton.
Everything I saw, I could respect and understand why they did it. Though there were certainly things that I would change to better convey what they were going for. However, I don’t think that making this movie more appealing to general audiences would have done it any favors, and even if they did, the general audience wouldn’t even appreciate it and just focus on the other things they didn’t understand.
Agreed with all this!
realest review ever
Same. I absolutely loved it, did it have some issues? Yes. But I loved it none the less. I still can't believe people aren't buying that the animatronics would be nice to Abby when it has been brought up a decent amount of times, in the books, and even in the fnaf 2 phone guy calls that they were completely fine with children but when adults were near, would stare intensely at them. I loved it because as a fnaf fan, I knew what to expect, and I expected humor and not showing much gore...like come on, that should have been obvious to fnaf fans
agreee
agree! I feel like people that complain that the animatronics were too friendly or not sinister enough somehow forget that they are literally dead children who only murder based on influence from the man who killed them *and* wanting more company. To say "the animatronics werent mean enough" is to totally miss the point of the story, the animatronics are and always have been victims, william is the only real sinister murdering presence at hand.
Pretty sure foxy sang a couple times in the movie, the fnaf 1 jumpscare sound effect was present too.
yeah I think the singing was pretty close idk if it was fully accurate
@@Luje_YT2020the singing wasn't the original from the game but it was preformed by a voice actor that has been involved in the franchise for a long time so id say it was still pretty good.
As far as the Ballon Boy "Hello" there is a moment where Abby says it in nearly the same way, I was under the impression that was a reference to it.
For the iconic line, my guess is that Afton in this universe already knew that he was gonna possess the suit after his death.
I agree, everything he did looked evilly intentional. He taunted them knowing they would be more angry at him, more willing to be violent. Something tells me he has some sort of religious background or belief system, because he never purposely ends himself to haunt his suit. He goads the crew into doing it.
He knows that because he put the kids in the suits, they are haunted and technically alive. So he knows that mow that he will die in his suit, the same will happen to him
Yeah but it definitely would've been better if he said something like "I'll come back" instead given that this is his first "death"
yeah in the 3 og books, he's already fascinated of immortality specifically ones brought about by possession (he's already planning on possesing an animatronic)
the spirits runnin around as animatronics is already solid proof of what he's lookin for that's why he confident (referring to the movie)
@@ManimalMoose but he did he said "I always come back"
Someone on Reddit commented that "the point of jumpscares is if you fail" and my thought is "well then there should have been jumpscares, because he legit failed as a security guard, he freaking slept"
11:15 The issues he talks about here kinda bug me like a lot, foxy sang his song like 2 or three times, abby says Hello insanely close to balloon boy, the jumpscare sound while i admit was only used once and was missable but it still is there, the movie was crafted with love and while yes they did miss alot of things and advertising this movie as a horror movie was probably their biggest mistake, it doesnt change the fact that as a movie its still atleast above the midway mark, it just has so much passion behind it. Its not the best cinema and i dont think anyone expected that, it definitely delivered on what I wanted from a fnaf movie, just makes me more excited for a sequel
I still don't know why they had to keep bringing up the exact same thing over and over and over again. We get it Garret got napped. Can we move on? no it keeps going on throughout the ENTIRE movie! it got extremely boring in the second half and the fort building with the animatronics through the entire fnaf theme to the trash. I get it. You waited 9 years for a movie. So did I. But this is not what I thought the movie was going to be. Just a massive custody battle. And if Jack doesn't particularilly like it, it's not that good enough to be the Best Movie of 2023. I'm sorry if I offended you but this is coming from someone who's played every FNAF game and read every single book and watched every sing fnaf fangame and fan movie.
@@SarahM-ku4buI feel like it did a good job at humanizing the animatronics because thats a concept people just dont do, while i agree with the theming of it yknow releasing near halloween and being marketed as scary, sometimes you gotta realize fnaf doesnt need to always be scary and eerie, at its core its a sad story about the deaths of children that never got to have a childhood, I agree with you though about the dream sequence being over used and the custody part of the story was pretty stupid, but I still love the movie for seeing the animatronics in a different light, I have a feeling though that if we get a sequel, which is pretty much gaurenteed theyre going to listen to fans and probably make it a genuien scary horror experience, either way, its still good at what it does and I thoroughly enjoyed the film
@@blazedoge it was below my expectations. I'm sorry. I'd rather just play the games. Plus the kids were rude as heck. Like ik you got killed but don't take the only family mike has left just because you're dead
@@SarahM-ku4bu The movie definitely went over your head.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 one time watching is enough for me
I personally enjoyed the movie. It was more about how weird it was. Also the fact that the fricking cupcake had the highest kill count 😂😅
Pretty sure the movie was actually just a big F*** you to the fans since he pretty much just made the movie for jokes and giggles rather than actual serious lore. When you view the movie like that, It's actually pretty funny
@@straivalist8281what "fans" are you talking about most die hard FNAF fans loved the movie sounds like you personally saw it that way.
I gave it a 7 out of 10 as far as just movies go, but with how much fun I had and references it called to, and the Puppet in the background of the credits... I loved it. I also didn't WANT it to be "gruesome" - I always thought of the stories as a slightly-darker Goosebumps style. I liked its tone.
I think the reason I loved the movie so much is because it’s not based off the games it’s based off of the books and it’s technically an alternate universe😄 I loved it. Thought it was perfect.
Edit: okay well no need to be so mean….
Yeah I loved the book references
That's part of the problem, the silver eyes trilogy wasn't really that good. Direct narrative storytelling has never been Scott's strongest point, part of the reason the games were so successful, because scott only gave hints and the community practically built the lore off of that with theories.
Its not based off the books, its a whole different thing
@@SoltyRn2 it's closer to the books than the games, based off does not mean verbatim translation of
@@littleredruritrue, but it typically means it’s very close to the books, which isn’t the case. I’d say it’s a mix of the books and games with some creative liberty
9:49 the only part in the fnaf movie that actually scared me was the second BB Jumpscare.
I got startled by all three BB scenes as he always got me killed by withered foxy in the second game.
Also, MatPat's recent video about being in the movie, he let us know that Mark was originally going to be the security guard that died at the beginning ... which I would have loved. I mean ... let's be real, Mark knows how to scream at animatronics ...
I think the “I always come back” line was because he killed those kids and saw how they technically came back and he knows he’s probably gonna die which is why he puts the mask back on. Just speculation but I think he meant like I’ll die but just like these kids it won’t be the end of me type thing
I like that the movie is a bit more “real” like the animatronics acting like kids actually. And I like the whole Vanessa thing even tho some aspects of the story were useless. But the original game just saying sucked in lore aspect so everything here was amazing that the movie offered
The whole scene when they built the fort, I really liked it, it felt like a stoner comedy lmaooo. It’s goofy and lets fans have they’re little “we’re hanging out together finally” but it also builds anxiety. You know they want Abby, so having them around her and hugging her had me on edge. You know they are evil but Abby is playing with them because that’s how they lure they’re victims.
I’ve been watching Markiplier’s Playthru, and even he says the reason why we love the games is because as much as it is scary it’s also funny.
Same! I loved the fort scene, and like not to victim blame Mike but I fully feel like if he set some boundaries early on and treated the animatronics like "humans" it would've worked out better for both of them. Like when he's cleaning up after the break in personally I would've been talking to myself and the animatronics😂 like "hey guys I'm sweeping up the glass and shit, don't kill me pls, idk how we're gonna replace the glass in the games but I'll figure it out" if that makes sense
They weren't evil during the fort scene, they just wanted Abby as a friend during that.
im on the fence about the fort scene, i feel they shouldve left vanessa and mike out of that, and them and abby make the fort while van and mike are talking about afton, itd feel more scary to mike to have seen the animatronics playing with abby and then finding out they wanna kill her for afton
they could’ve done something more creative. like have the animatronics play hide and seek
Yeh but it totally destroys any fear the audience has of these animatronics. You can't go from them being menacing and mysterious to them suddenly building a fort with a little girl. It's tonal whiplash.
*The theater I went to you’d think the movie was a comedy with the amount of laughter there was, also a few people called out Cory’s name which was an awesome feeling.*
the movie WAS a comedy. its flipping fnaf for petes sake
@@Ethan_Cubed *Exactly, it’s fnaf - a movie based on a HORROR game, it wasn’t awful by any means but I was disappointed with how it turned out.*
@@meganmisura1858 sure the first game was pretty scary. But all the other games were full of comedy
@@Ethan_CubedDid you play fnaf 3? Scary asf and sister location, were not comedies at all
everyone was clapping and cheering when they saw matpat and it made me so happy.
As a huge FNAF fan, this movie didn’t disappoint at all. The staying true lore, the hidden details, the references, the characters and the animatronics were all amazing. It felt very nostalgic to me because it feels like I travelled back to 2014 when people had no idea about the franchise. The UA-camr cameos as well were amazing not only with Cory and MatPat but also the ones on the Employee Of The Month board. Some scenes might be a bit goofy like the fort scene or the pictures being memories but when you rewatch it, you pick up on some hidden details that lead to those plot points and I love that. Btw, most of the animatronic scenes are remote controlled with tech inside, not worn by crew a few times.
Relating to the pictures influencing the animatronics, in the beginning of the movie when Mike talks to the doctor she says that pictures and images are the most important tool before we learn how to speak and young children use drawings and pictures to express themselves and that’s how they grow and the souls in the animatronics only do what they do because of the drawings on the wall because they forgot their memories and they’re just kids. They don’t understand what they’re doing. The main drawing is a yellow rabbit with them smiling and when the souls see that, they trust the yellow rabbit aka William Afton and they will follow him because they trust him like a father figure. For the fort scene, Abby is the first kid in 20 years they have scene, a new face and they just want to have fun with her because she’s a kid like them so there’s that background. Now the reason why they wanted to kill her and make her like them is because, most likely not confirmed, William Afton knew about Mike having Abby and he told them, you wanna have a new friend, here’s something to make her like you so you can have her forever so he offers them the springlock Ella suit from the books.
You high? It was dogshit. You should feel bad for having such a bad take.
Movie was mediocre. A little better if you're a fan I guess. Felt more like a youtube movie then a proper movie
One problem, i had with the movie, and this was the only problem for me. It wasn't scary, i get that the movie was more for children, but i feel what they failed to account for was that the majority of fans were kids when the franchise blew up but that was almost a decade ago,we aren't kids anymore
@@the_spammer_It felt like a parody fan film ngl
Afton makes it very clear he didn't care that much about the brother, He recognized the name, kept him close to see what he knows, and then Afton tells us himself, all he did was tell Vanessa to keep him in the dark and murder him if he learned, Idk a killer that would let someone else kill someone that was their Golden Goose
MatPat already showed us who Mark was supposed to be.
I honestly would have liked him to be the main character lol but yeah :(
@@HunnieB_vtuberthat would ruin the movie for me tbh but I'd get used to it and probably end up liking it. But we are getting an MC Markiplier sooo
I’m hoping if they make a FNAF 2, that Mark gets a more significant role out of happen stance that he wasn’t killed in the first movie.
People have to realize that Mark isn’t an actor, he shouldn’t really have a big role, maybe a cameo, but I don’t think the movie would be enjoyable with someone who doesn’t act
@@CosmicStar3 His acting is pretty good though, have you seen In Space With Markiplier?
a thing to note from someone on the book adaptation territory. Often times, when studios are adapting books, it's the hardcore fans that are the most excited to see them. And often times, the book lovers are disappointed because the adaptations change a LOT of the original source to cater to the general public, and then the general public isn't that impressed with it either bc it turns out to be a half-hearted mix of new and old that don't really go together. So I'd much rather studios stick to one idea or the other. Either you're just doing a whole new story in the universe for the gp, with some little nods to the fans, or you stick to the original content for the community. Trying to please both sides without fully commiting to either one just results in a mediocre end product
The actress who played Max (the babysitter) said some scenes were definitely cut, but because the strike she cannot talk about it at all. She said there was a whole scene to explain why she even went in so there could be extra scenes that are missing that would have added a little more.
Editing to add that the Vanessa in Security Breach is also blonde. Also kills off screen fit well with the games too because we never see anything like that on screen in the games except in the 8bit mini games
A lot of the elements you're talking about wishing were in the movie ARE included in a fantastic fan film called Night Five. Mike actually does his job of checking the lights and closing the doors. The power goes out and he has to hide from Foxy under the desk. Freddy's has training tapes that the movie's version of Phone Guy records messages on for Mike. He doesn't get the whole lore dumped on him by Vanessa, but figures it out on his own. The animatronics actually sound like they're full of heavy metal parts. In a lot of ways, it's better than the official movie.
i got into fnaf two days before the movie and i did a huuuge lore bing. i absolutely LOVED the movie simply because of how it made me feel. i also wasn’t expecting spring trap(my favorite character) so his reveal was so cool.
how did you only just discover fnaf 😭
Welcome to the fandom😭
Why is the child killer your favorite character?
cool design @@BlameItOnMercury
@@BlameItOnMercury FR
I like how Jack complained about the animatronics moving and wanting them to teleport like they did in the games, than 5 minutes later complains about how the animatronics teleported around, like man pick a side 😭
Wait what?
Kinda dumb if you ask me. Sounds like he wanted to hate the movie if he can't be satisfied based on that complaint.
I hate to say this... But it's giving CinemaSins
My understanding is he wanted more like, jump cut movements instead of switching between normal movements and actual teleportation. Kinda like how plushtrap moved or weeping angels from Doctor Who.
William said “I always comes back” because he knows what happens if you die in the animatronic suit, he will be able to posses the suit for many years, just like the kids
It's refreshing to see people say something about the fnaf movie other than "the movie was a masterpiece" or "the movie was hot garbage". It seems like everyone is either on one end or the other with this movie rn
I read the novel trilogy, which I actually liked quite a bit, and it was pretty clear to me that the author who worked with Scott on them was doing pretty much ALL the actual story and character stuff. He seems to be good with like, the core ideas, "evil man kills children and stuffs them in animatronics that become haunted", etc. But everything with actual characters and dynamic story beats he just cannot do himself. So hearing he wrote the screenplay and script himself for this movie, that totally tracks with it being so mid.
i absolutely love that their backgrounds aren't just soundproofing lmao, the black walls covered in nerdy decor and fancy lighting feels like they're talking in a nice sit down restaurant for podcasters
I loved watching the FNAF movie (saw it in theatres, then online with friends) but I think Sean and Ethan's criticisms make a lot of sense and made me laugh. I'm just glad the movie exists at all, it was such a surreal experience!
When I went last Thursday on 26th, everyone in the cinema was theorising the entire time and and laughing and crying and just everything. When matpat came on screen we all was like “YEAHHHH”
i genuinely hope that they make a second movie, 18+ and genuinely scary. i think it'll be so cool
When they were talking about the fnaf scream being a sample from another movie, and that they wished it was in the movie-
It is in the movie. It's right when Foxy runs at Max's brother at the door.
Fun fact when spiderman (tobey maguire) came out in the UK it was rated 12 and I couldn't go see it as an 11 year old. Shortly after they changed 12 to 12A which meant you could see it with an adult if you were under 12. UK seems to be super strict on film ratings
Yeah they definitely are. Movies like fnaf, venom and the batman are rated R over here
as a longterm fan of the franchise i honestly could not be happier with the movie. you can really see the love for the community and the source material contained within it. i loved it a lot !!!
After seeing both your tweets on twitter (I know it's called X but I refused to call it that) about the movie, I was looking forward to seeing your thoughts in a more lengthy way. There is so many divisive opinions on this movie and I think they're all respectable.
Seeing the movie in theaters is so much better than at home on a tv imo. In the theater the sound and atmosphere is really encompassing, you don’t really get that feeling when you’re just able to watch it on a small screen or tv. I loved the movie as a FNAF fan, but that doesn’t mean looking back I don’t see faults, cause there are many. But it was a fun movie overall and they nailed it with execution and the 1:1 physical suits.
These are the animatronics the 5 kids are possessing. Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, Foxy and Golden Freddy who has Ethan’s sort of hair style and is the first victim out of the 5 original kids.
Thought the golden freddy kid was the last of the five? That’s why they hate William so much, and tortures him after Fnaf 6. William got too confident from killing the other kids so the golden freddy kids death was much more brutal than the previous four. The first victim was Chica’s kid, right? I could be wrong though
In the beginning one of the people were talking about how children used pictures to communicate and learn before they can speak. So when the wall is nice pictures, that’s all they know. They need to see what really happened from Abby cuz they like her. So i liked the full circle.
The pacing was a little slow and I’m only assuming Venessa cleaned up the blood and bodies at Freddie’s idk about the aunt lmao. I totally forgot she even died by the end of it. But golden Freddie appearing in a house is exactly what happens in the 4th game. So he can do that.
Also mikes family, the 3 kids is a parallel to Williams family who he killed, some indirectly. So its apart of the lore.
Abby=baby
Mike: mike Afton
Garret: maybe Gregory, which would add so much with Vanessa storyline considering she was trying to kill him in security breach.
They used a foxy scream, balloon boy laughing, alarm clock noise from the 3rd or 4th game, but that’s all I remember.
(Spoilers if you haven't watched yet) here are my thoughts on a better like story but perhaps it would ruin some of the lore: Remove aunt all together, don't need her arc to motivate Mike, he is raising a sister on his own that is motivation enough. He already lost a brother, he should be SUPER motivated to take care of and protect his sister. Perhaps Afton has been keeping tabs on them (connection to Henry perhaps?) and being a mentor of sorts, trying to "help" him get jobs but also causing him to loose each one leaving Mike to take the job at Freddy's in desperation. if we need to keep dream sequences have each time he falls asleep he gets glimpses of each kids kidnapping story but you can't see who is doing it until the end. Mike wakes in a panic locked in the chair and needs to escape only to hear his sisters screams and on and on. BUT that also would probably push it past PG-13.
That sounds so much better. I also didn't understand the whole Aunt part especially considering she got killed (presumably). Also the whole school part, then the amount of scenes at home. It felt less like a high grade movie and more like a weird fanmade UA-cam movie.
@@delightoftheendlessyou giving fanmade UA-cam movies too much High regard. This is way better than fanmade UA-cam movie lmao.
These ALL would make the movie so much better, I really hope Scott gets help from other writers in the future
@@iiiisssssaaaaaaccccccThe fnaf musical was better
I went into the theater with my brother (we're both 33), knowing he was pretty blind to the series. That helped me enjoy the film from a blank slate, enjoy easter eggs, and answer what questions he asked in the car on the ride home. Overall, I will get the DVD and watch it again, because I love practical effects, and they worked so dang hard on every prop, set and animatronic. Even if you don't care for the story, games or deep lore, the movie was very pretty for a Halloween or Blumhouse fan to drink in.
I did love hearing both of your perspectives, you pointed out stuff I didn't even think of! Like the 'Mike could get framed!' plot hole, and 'I always come back!' Where'd you go, Will? I assume the pillow fort scene is so the robots can convince Abby and Mike that they can be trusted, so that Abby might be more willing to stay with them? It's a cute but nonsensical scene, clearly for childlike wonderment. The blond kid who talks the most is sinister and haunts Golden Freddy. Original Freddy is the kid with the light-colored top hat and light striped shirt. I assume the blonde boy wasn't cosplaying as his favorite character when he passed away, which is why he's not dressed up for a party like the other four.
Of course there are flaws abound, because every movie has them, and Mike does stupid things every other minute, the aunt is supposed to be a villain to keep us off Afton's trail I guess? It didn't work, but maybe the door is open to do a FNAF movie based entirely on the third game so William can be *fleshed* out more.
*fleshed*
The "Come find me" is reference to the future introduction of Marionette. In the 8 bit games with Marionette, the same exact voice is used. Also, in the classroom scene with Josh and the therapist, Puppet is spelled on the board in the background. *Flies away*
As a die-hard fan from 2014 literally, I was 10 when it came out, and my parents would not let me play it so I would go over to my friend's house just so we'd play it together. This game holds a special place in my heart, and I actually think that the animatronics in this were more realistic than the games because you have to remember that they're just kids tapped in the animatronics. and the only reason they attacked in the games was because Mike supposedly looked like Afton and because they didn't go that route it made sense they didn't in the movie. So I was satisfied, I thought it was great. I do agree however the pacing could've been better, but as Scott's first film I still loved it.
I just didn't tell my parents I downloaded it but I had to use the demo
Fair enough@@ocin_the_ocin8766
I honestly love this podcast so much, it's so fun listening to all the funny and interesting things they talk about every time, all the goofs or more serious topics, it's a great time with Sean and Ethan, been watching them and others for years and their personalities and humor are infectious and right up my alley, so I happily look forward to these every week (along with their individual vids)! Genuinely, thank you!
I absolutely love you guys discussing things, i feel like you’re both incredibly respectful and you understand a lot about movies and are so passionate and smart, great episode
It was very apparent to me that it was made for the younger/child FNAF fans. There’s plenty of good scary PG 13 movies without tons of gore and blumhouse is known for doing that well. So to me it’s obvious they wanted it simple, slap you in the face with lore, and child friendly. They had a great cast, great aesthetics, and great production/crew but they lost the plot/character development.
I absolutely loved this movie but I definitely agree it's not the scariest as it can be, it definitely should've given them darker scenes and not fully lit scenes and make them have the white glow eyes in the games, this was a fan service-y movie but not as much as they wanted since they probably wanted this movie to stand on it's own and such
I hope they do lean in to the horror aspect more, since thats what made the games so fun imo, make them more scary and use the animatronics in a more scarier scenario, like I feel like in the Springlock scene they probably could've gotten away with some blood here and there to show the full effect of the springlock honestly
Overall I think this movie is great, but it's definitely not for everyone lol, my friends loved it and they didn't know much about FNAF so lol
I think they did what they did to allow more people to watch the more. Too much blood/gore and they’d have to raise the age limit. I think they are aware that quite a few fans are below 18
I think having only spring trap having the white and black eyes is better because it shows he is a true demonic entity and it makes him more special.
Bro, not even the games were scary. What are you talking about? Other than FNAF 4, the others are not scary at all. And FNAF 4 is scary only because you get jumpscared with a very high volume when the whole game is near silent compared to the other ones. And you say darker scenes, even in the games or the book trilogy, there was never a very dark scene in sight. In the games, only FNAF 3 minigame where William gets springlocked has blood in it. Plus, many children love FNAF and thus, it means there are very few 18+ years old OG fans. I absolutely enjoyed the movie and loved how they tried to give more characteristics to the animatronics because in the games, they only attack us and we never have the chance to see them act differently. As mere children, for example. We never even interact with them. And them being friendly around a child makes perfect sense. They wouldn't want to kill adults while a child is right beside them, would they? Also, if you read The Silver Eyes Graphic Novel, you would know that there wasn't much blood when William got springlocked. So the end scene of The Silver Eyes and the movie was the same. That's why I loved it. It was great to see at the theatre.
@@xM0nst3Rx 1) tolerance levels differ depending on the person. What you think isn’t scary could be very scary to someone else.
2) I don’t recall the book specifying how bloody it was when the spring locks activated, so I’d say that’s up for interpretation.
The beginning doesn’t show the cupcake, it shows the shadow of Foxy. The scene Ethan was thinking of is during the break in half-way through.
No, there is a scene in the beginning where the first security guards defends himself by pressing himself against a vent grid from the cupcake
@@MinimalistSwan No that was jeff he guy who broke in.
@@lucasbelmonte2832 there was a security guard at the very very start of the movie, he was holding the vent against cupcake until it disappeared and then he got taken by, I believe, foxy. Then he got killed by the weird saw thing in the chair. The guys who broke in appeared way way later.
@@MinimalistSwan no the guy at the beginning was just trying to open the vent to escape and then he was taken by foxy, the scene you're talking about is where the guys break into the pizzeria and one of them Jeff pressed himself against the vent to keep the cupcake out. watch the movie again
@@MinimalistSwan The guard didn't go against the cupcake rewatch the beginning on a pirated site or something he was moving around the vents until he is captured by one of the animatronics it doesn't show who because the first time we see them is when Vennesa presses the showtime button.
The main kid we see with the striped shirt is golden freddy, the foxy transition kid is a different blonde boy 36:10
I don’t think that Scott was trying to subvert expectations, I think he was just writing the story backwards basically. He used the newer games to explain things that happened in the previous
It was also confusing that every time the kids were shown in the dream sequence, at least one of their faces was blurred out. It wasn't always the same one. The movie never ever explained that or even commented on it.
the only thing that everyone in the theater I was in was jumpscared about was literally every time balloon boy showed up 🤣
As an og fan all of the stuff both Ethan and Jack are talking about I agree with, I know a lot of people liked it but overall I was dissapointed ngl
I was 9 when fnaf first came out and now im an adult which is kinda crazy
Spoilers Below!!
Another thing that I think was a big mistep was the fact that William tried to kill Vanessa. I get that it's supposed to be a slightly different canon to the games but that is a massive shift in personality for William Afton. He is shown, especially in FNaF 4 that despite being completely irredeemable he cares for his children deeply even if he doesn't for other children. You could compare the movie scene to how he wants Michael to travel to Circus Baby Rentals or whatever it's called in Sister Location to save Mike's sister but he only does it as a way to desperately get his daughter out. I like this two sided version not the comic book villain we got in the movie.
Still loved Matthew Lillard in the role though
William Afton caring about his kids is completely fanon, not fact
@@cursedGalataea THANK YOU! So much of the novels, the Fazbear Frights, and the games emphasise over and over again that William is just straight-up, old-school evil. He's never cared about children, especially not his own. He literally beats Elizabeth in the final novel when she's a kindergartener trying to show him the award she got at school. He killed Charlie out of jealous for Henry *when she was three years old*. William never cared about kids. Ever.
Ngl, I was expecting to be corrected. The lore has been retconned so much and I haven't really looked into it at all recently or had a refresher but thanks for telling me.
The animatronics were not people in suits Jack! They were actual animatronics made just for the movie
I think the movie is based a little more on the books than the games, which is fine, but I would’ve preferred to have at least one scene of Mike doing his damn job lmao
Yes!! That was honestly my biggest complaint is Mike never actually did his job at any point in the movie 😂
I feel like the movie works if you look at it like a multiverse thing and this is just one version of how FNAF happened. Just a little something for fun. (Though i wish we had more creepy stuff with the kids and Afton. Like maybe when Mike was doing his dreaming stuff caught glimpses of the deaths of the kids and not just his brother's kidnapping. But whatever.)
“What if he finds out his brother is in a different animatronic in the second movie?”
The fans: …That’s the set up dude. They play My Grandfather’s Clock right before the voice spells out “COME FIND ME”. That’s a glaring reference to the Marionette from FNAF2. Garret is pretty obviously possessing the Marionette. His story is virtually completely unresolved so that pretty much has to be what’s next.
Right like theyre saying that as if its a silly idea when literally thats just what fnaf is, of course garrett is gonna be in another animatronic. Im really thinking hes gonna be the marionette too and maybe that the schmidts are henrys kids
Also i love that ethan is trying to be nice but then Sean is going HAM on this movie and its really funny to watch
My experience watching the movie was more of a comedy than horror. Me and pretty much the whole theater was laughing for 90% of the movie. lol... the audience definitely carried the movie for me.
The laugh I laughed when Jack said that FNAF is as convoluted as KH.
He’s not wrong.
My quick notes/thoughts..
1. Just because the aunt looks well off doesn't mean she was.. she could've blown all her money on fancy and expensive things and now she sees Abby as a way to keep up with her spending/lifestyle habits..
2. What if Garret was the first victim and will be the puppet in the next film?! -- In turn, making Mike's character and the missing little brother/trauma part of the storyline more important and a sort of "laying of groundwork" for the next film..?
3. I agree with most of the same thoughts, feelings, and hopes for future films. I agree that future films should be made more eerie and horror-like. But I also liked the film for what it was. So we'll see what happens next. 🤷♀️
I want the next movie to be rated R and bloody. That was my only problem. It was very satisfying to see FNAF on camera. I love the knife swipe that Mathew does cuz it’s hinting to scream.
I think the Afton "I always come back" is more of a Scream reference. Its no secret that Matthew loved the role and wanted to insert a callback. He cleans his knife just how Ghostface does in every movie and one of the other lines was a dramatic "ill be back" so it could be a half and half thing
"I always come back" is a line that afton says in pizzeria simulator and in the games he always does come back. that's what the reference is
No, it's more of a William Afton reference.
I would love more film discussions on the pod please. So good! Maybe it could be a segment
making ethan do the nut ad is so funny lmao
Movie lore is always different from game lore, so the lore is different in a lot of ways in the movie. And I personally think that William Afton/Mathew Lillard in the movie for a short amount of time was a good thing since he is mainly known as spring trap once he gets spring locked. So in the second and third movie we are going to see a lot more of him, and a lot more gore in general. I will have to admit it wasn't as scary as I was hoping for, I can agree with that. But it definitely will get more intense with each movie. But the animatronics did have programming to move on their own on a basic level. foxy was the only one who had to have more programming to the point they couldn't put it as a suit as well, Bonnie, Chica, and Freddy were both animatronics and could also be worn as a costume. Just like it would have been when the restaurant was open in the game perspective, because the animatronics were able to move around give kids food and just genuinely walk around (as costumes like Matthew was using the golden Bonnie suit in the movie) And move on their own as animatronics with the programming up on stage, which were the times they 'costumes' of the animatronic had the endoskeletons in them.
But overall, I love seeing their perspective anyway, they always make it funny even when it's something I disagree on which I love. Stay leaky everyone ❤
I’m currently at 20:05 and “I always come back,” thinking from a regular viewer putting pieces together standpoint, Vanessa did say that her dad always comes back to kill people who knows about fnaf’s secret to keep them quiet. So that could be implying that he’ll always be out to get you rather than just a lore standpoint
To be fair to Matthew Lillard and the "It's symmetry" line, it's a call to his line in scream from killing Sydney's mom and killing Sydney. I was so glad to see him in the movie and that he seemed to proud to have gotten the roll
“its ok to like shitty movies”
monster house being my fave spooky season movie:😃
Correct, but some people pretend its a 10/10 movie you can like crap movies like FNAF but acknowledge it's bad
I took my boyfriend with me to the movie, but also had him watch all of Matpats lore videos so he'd get it😂 we also discovered we are OLD. We're 21 and 22 but we were immediately like "jeez this is louder than I thought" and we snuck in snacks bc I refuse to pay 20 bucks for popcorn😂 so yeah that was the revelation we had. But we both really enjoyed it, despite some inaccuracies bc we thought it would be more of the games instead of the books
19:34 when he said “I always come back”, he said it like he died before once and came back too life.
okay one thing I will mention (while not really a fan of it myself) is that Golden Freddy appearing at the house CAN make sense because it's very suggested in the games that he's just entirely a ghost and not a physical animatronic. so he kinda is on his own rules. but I totally agree the rest of them jumping around like that was odd
I'm a fan of FNAF but pacing makes or breaks a movie for me. I just never got fully drawn in. The movie did give us some hilarious Mr. Cupcake scenes so I'm still glad I watched it.
My friends' kids love FNAF but from watching UA-camrs play it. There are a lot of kids that didn't start by playing the first game. Being PG13 meant my friend could watch it and then take them to see it. They enjoyed it and that makes me happy.
“I don’t like how they showed them move”
“I don’t like how they teleport”
Bruh make up your mind.
Also Golden Freddy can teleport but Abby definitely can’t, that’s why they needed the taxi.
TO BE HONEST BOYS- yeah I didn't watch y'all for a couple a weeks for the sake of not wanting spoilers to the movie. But I literally watched it Friday night since it's now after 1 am CDT Sunday. And yeah you guys had other episodes that didn't mention FNAF but I just wanted a clean no social media period experience leading up to me finally seeing it. I would say I actually LOVED the movie- Idk what rating I would give it other than the fact that I have been a fan of the games since I was in 4th grade and now I'm 18(graduated in May this year). I turned my brain off and watched it like most of the fans- but started crying a few times because how Abby was scratching that itch on how she treated the animatronics bc it would be the way I I would have treated them bc all they are, are just children. And they didn't deserve what was given to them by Afton. I feel like in the movie they kinda just threw bits and pieces of all the games into it regardless of the layout being the first game. Now what made me scream WTF through my house and everyone hearing it was the fact that Vanessa said she was Afton's daughter💀 when we all know it was Elizabeth who got killed by Baby. So I think Scott was kinda screwing with us(as we all know he loves doing that.) I will say Bonnie giving the thumbs up when he fell was actually funny, I laughed at that out loud cuz I thought it was cute and it was kinda satire🤣. I was confused at the beginning when we saw Matthew Lillard as whatever tf the name was at first bc I was like, "oh I thought he was gonna be Afton" so it threw me off(I think that was Scott's intention) and then saw him at the end. I love that they showed him twitching as he was getting crushed within SpringTrap...but where's the blood pooling like in the third/fourth- can't remember. But the timeline made no sense(we all know Scott always made it so the timeline made no sense so he could see us Gremlins as his fans really fry our brain with figuring out the lore.) But I took note at the beginning of the movie when he was proposing the night shift that he wanted him(other than killing his brother and connecting the dots of recognizing the name) was bc his oldest Son's name is Micheal so maybe in his own sick delusions it was like him being reminded of his son. But it also makes sense bc Afton had 2 sons and a daughter- well he killed(Fredbear/golden freddy) his youngest and then killed Elizabeth(Baby) his middle son I think just those 3 characters aligns with the real storyline even though they have VERY different names. That's my overall review and comment on the movie. So I think I would give it a 9/10 bc so many things were just weird and REALLLYYYY got screwy. And Ethan, you're right the dialogue was awkward- there were lots of captain obvious points- I loved Mike's sarcasm when he asked Abby if the animatromos were ghosts and she said "mhm" it was just the sarcastic "ok." That kinda made me giggle bc it's all very relatable. I kinda liked the bite of 83 recreation with Max getting chewed in half. But honestly those guys kinda got what they deserved- bc it really made me mad on how they disturbed the kids' peace bc WHY TF. And disturbed their peace so VIOLENTLY so I laughed as I was watching them get killed cuz it was very well deserved. I kinda felt it was unfair for Max bc she didn't wanna be any part of it. So yes 9/10 coulda been a teensy🤏🏼 bit better with dialogue and storyline but such a good movie that I would recommend😌🤌🏼
1:0053 was when they started talking about markiplier in fnaf btw if anyone was wondering
watched it with my 11 year old, we enjoyed it. it's corny at times, there's some slow bits and plot holes (did golden poof the aunt's corpse away? did they come home to her dead? how'd they explain that? lol) , but ultimately, as an adaptation of the games it was pretty faithful and the attention to detail in the sets and puppets is incredible. As a mostly family friendly (ish) horror movie it worked well. I don't mind that it's kid friendly, fnaf is one of the horror franchises myself and my son have bonded over and it was delightful to be able to sit and watch the movie with him. He was having a great time pointing out the easter eggs I didn't notice. It was better than I anticipated it would be. I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece of theatre, but considering what it COULD have been, i'm pleasantly surprised.
This is along my thinking, it is a great gateway "scary" movie for kids who are interested in horror but maybe are still easily scared
I dont think Aunt Jane did die, GF just scared her and she passed out
I also wondered what happened to the aunt, they never showed her again. Is she just dead in their living room, like what? Lol
They specifically made Vanessa's character in the movie be EXACTLY like security breach Vanessa
Oh my god, thank you Sean and Ethan for that amazing idea! Mark should totally make a short video about Foxy and Chica doing exactly that: Foxy singing, Chica doing whatever she does, and then all sorts of weird stuff happens!
The thing about "you can't hide the monster because the audience already knows what it is-" First of all, not everybody watching it knows. Second, there's two types of suspense: the audience doesn't know what's going on and gets entertainment from trying to figure it out OR the audience knows what's going on but gets entertainment watching it play out because the characters don't know and the audience doesn't know how the characters will find out or how they'll react.
That movie was *PERFECT.*
i really liked it, hope for a second one, i will watch it again
never played the game just from watching Mark and Matpat play the games, i know some of the lore etc, but i liked it, it did its job, for me the ending part of the movie was the best part, i was hoping to be longer,
sad to not see Mark in it, but really cool to see Matpat and saying his line lol,
I think the weirdest thing about the movie to me is the utter lack of explanation for Golden Freddy? He just... shows up looking almost indistinguishable from regular Freddy except for some damage. I know the movie was made more for people who were already fans, but I feel like most other stuff was introduced ok for newcomers.
So I saw it in theaters and I am not joking you there is a bite shown on screen and all of us whether quietly or not so quietly went "was that the bite of 87" and despite not knowing anyone else there we all just started laughing. There was a loud approval and some clapping when Mat Pat said the thing and there was a collective eye roll at the "twist". Would have been a better twist if they didn't reveal it in the casting announcements BEFORE THE MOVIE RELEASED but even if you know nothing of the lore of the games, it's not super surprising because the hints are a little in your face. Most all of us stayed til the movie credits were completely done just in case there was a teaser or code or something like that and there is. We all went dead silent at the atari style spelling, trying to spell it out in our heads. It was a great experience and given that I live in a fairly small city, there were a lot of older teens and a couple of older kids seeing the movie. It was nice to be surrounded by people that also love this dumpsterfire of a series!
Scott's made it pretty clear that he's only made one retcon and I don't think he's lying or he has been changing things to try and subvert expectations. But I can definitely understand why some people think he has done that.
While their review doesn't matter because their opinion is their own, some of their criticism is completely flawed...
-"i want the jumpscare sound, i want foxy singing from the game" -Both of those things happened
-"he does have to flip the power thing but its not in his office" -It quite literally is
-"bonnie kills someone in the broom closet but now theyre gone and so is the blood" -It's specifically implied that Vanessa cleaned it up
- "golden freddy teleports into the house but they need a taxi to get back" - ...Abby can't teleport guys
Jack also says he felt like there was too much of the animatronics which is so baffling... A movie called FNAF is about the FNAF gang? He also hoped for more fan service but disliked the "its just a theory line". You can tell they don't really understand what they're criticizing, especially when Jack mentions the Cory scene with the Balloon Boy toy doesn't make sense. Why does it have to make sense? Why are we suddenly applying real world logic to this funny mid credits scene? That's like saying why Thanos doesn't just teleport to dodge every attack, or why the Avengers didn't just destroy one of the stones... Because the answer is simple; it's not fun! It's fiction for a reason!
Again, their rating is completely fine, but this felt like criticism just for the sake of criticism.
PS: Jack says he was confused on which kid was Foxy... which was one of the most obvious things in the movie. The next movie should feature Subway Surfers gameplay so these content creators can pay at least a bit of attention.
7:08 hmm i felt tense plentry. There were definitely moments that i got scared too. Also i loved the way they moved.
I think the hiding part Jack was talking about is so true. Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom did that perfectly with the indoraptor hiding scene. It was so terrifying and I think they could’ve done so well if they implemented that in the FNaF movie
I'd love to see them look at theories for the next movie and stuff, I feel like it would be really fun
Ugh *IT WAS CLEARLY MADE FOR KIDS AND MY PRE-TEENS LOVEDDDDD IT!*
I understand why you'd want to see less of the animatronics for spooky reasons, but honestly the Jim Henson company did such a good job making them that Im almost happy they chose not to go that route. They absolutely should have had spring trap lurking in a couple scenes though, that would have been dope
The fact that you guys talked about kingdom hearts made my life !!! The fact you even know about it's existence is great ❤️❤️❤️❤️