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The kartarpur corridor was open throughout from the Pakistan side. Only the Indian side reopened their own side. There’s no “signal” here. It was just Covid-related. Nice to see peace here. Sikh yatris deserve access to all their holy shrines.
"Pakistan govt is not independent" 🙄 , "many journalists write how army wanted him to be elected" overlooking 22 years of political struggle when he failed to get elected , you overlooked wheather people of pakistsn wanted him to be elected or not ? I seriously question your journalism. Note: imran Kahn is the only politician who struggled for 22 years before being elected as PM in Pakistan.
Excellent Jyoti. A well summarized state of play. It is all about Punjab and all about faith, that is sacred for the Sikhs. Kartarpur may be in Pakistan but this is a man made border. The hearts and minds of Sikhs identify only with Guru Nanak and land borders become irrelevant!. Good time to normalize relations with Pakistan, especially when Afghanistan too needs India's food and funds!
During Ranjit Singh Raj , more importance was given to shrine at dera Baba Nanak , which was lavished with gold plating, kartarpur was a simple affair, with fewer visitors.
Ms. Jyoti - I disagree with your analysis. Pakistan agrees to give transit to Indian wheat because the Taliban requested them to do so. If they do not agree then the Afghan brothers will be really upset and TTP can mess things up in Pakistan. So Pakistan do not want to mess with Afghans and hence they allowed the Indian wheat to transit. Pakistan army never bothered to have peace with India. Having peace with India is never in the best interest of the Pakistan Army. From PM Bajpayee to PM Manmohan to PM Modi, whoever tried to have an "Aman ki Asha", with Pakistanis; always being backstabbed. So "Aman ki Asha" with the Pakistani Army is a Big BS. Constant hostility is the only best Nash equilibrium that Pakistan has achieved. From a Game-theoretic point of view, this actually suits us. The longer they play this game better off we will be. As far as Kartarpur is concerned, they are only collecting the Jizya from the Kafers from Hindustan with rebranded name as Visa fees. Have you seen their foreign reserve? I think they have to. As far as backchannel talk is concerned, there are always back-channel talks. So what so fuss about it. Even in order to send "the wheat" that discussion has to be on the backchannel. Because that is the only channel left open. Hence - sorry Ms. Jyoti. I really disagree with your analysis.
What was aman ki asha and how Pakistan back stabbed? On Kartarpur issue, its a respectful place for Pakistanis as well. I as a Pakistani also had to pay 'Jizya' to enter.
@@AliImran-kd8mx interesting that you don't know "Aman ki Asha" and "Pakistani backstabbed" Anyway, there are some Indians who are eternally optimistic and believe that the Pakistani Military will accept a peaceful resolution with India. There was a lot of lobbying that happened in New Delhi for peace with Pakistan. Particularly in the 90s. As a result, PM Vajpayee tried a peace accord. That was followed by the Kargil war. Then PM Manmohan Singh tried peace that was followed by the Mumbai attack. Finally, PM Modi tried with PM Nawaz - but ended up with big mess. Of course, Kartarpur is a respectful place for Pakistanis as well. I think historically Jizya is tax on non-muslims (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya). Hence Muslim rulers historically imposed this discriminatory tax on non-muslims to show who is the boss. As a Pakistani, you have to pay Jizya means I believe you are not muslims. My understanding as per sharia law Muslims don't have to pay Jizya.
@@AliImran-kd8mx peace can be achieved with or without trade. The relation between China and India is very stressful for the last few years. But China is India's largest trading partner
@@SourishDas no I mean how did Aman ki asha aimed for peace? I was too young at Musharraf's time. Later I have never heard anyone discussing it. That's why I asked you..
Start with the topic, do Pakistan bashing throughout the video come back to the topic in the end. This is miss chutter chutter's print journalism for you. Jinnah rightly used the 'word' about you people 'incorrigible'.
"an example of what can be done when people desire something" this statement is naivity at it's best or ascribing a motive when it is not present. Ridiculous
It is well known to all and sundry that a political twist can be played out in the media on all actions by elected Governments in a democracy. I wish the media, especially The Print, sees this and tries to convey the real implication of such initiatives to the society. Tailpiece: The “Why”;of politics does not fill the plates at the dining table.
talking about wheat and all that,afghans effects Pakistan coz Pakistan had the most lenient immigration and trade policies for afghans.now there are restrictions,just like iran and other neighboring countries.but since they are neighbours and they have to eat to live,its better to allow transit of wheat.which Pakistan eventually did.
SPEAKER IS WRONG IN SAYING THAT PAKISTAN IS EXTENDIÑD AN OLIVE BRANCH TOWARDS INDIA.OPENING UP KAPURTALA CORRIDOR IS OWING TO PRESSURE FROM KABUL FOR IT A
Nehru ko IIT, IIM DRDO AUR ISRO jaise institute bhi nhi banane chaiye..... Unko bhi sb kuch Britishers pr blame kr Dena chaiye tha..... Faltu Mai kaam kr rhe they
Till kashmir dispute is not resolved I think there is no peace in Asia particularly india and Pakistan china and one thing is that every neighboring country is happy with india
I've heard some rubbish talked in Print about Pakistan but this one takes the biscuit. Imran Khan is an elected Prime minister let there be no doubt about that. Let me also make it clear: Imran Khan is no boot polisher. He value his dignity and is prepared to stand up and fight for what he believes. Unlike many of his opponents both internally and in international arena.
no offense ! PM IK who used to says that before elections that he will never go to IMF for "bheek" is now going. If that's how men with dignity are then thank god, I am not. PM IK, who used to blame Nawaz Sharif for selling pakistan through CPEC is now calling CPEC as game changer. PM IK who used to say that Military and civilian leadership are on the same page is taking a U -Turn when ISI chief was dismissed without his consent and C.O.A.S. Bajwa appointed new ISI chief and he had to follow the orders of the real power in pakistan. If these are the behaviour of a Dignity leadership then carry on..
@@chiragagarwal1765 bro hes a politician after all..what happened to ache din? look at delhi's pollution in coming days .Modi made way more false promises than IK .. i have coworkers in India they tell me so many graduates coming out not enough job..
It is not print or just any Indian media Channel saying that Pak PM IK is selected leader , Whole World acknowledge and endorse this fact that if one want to get anything done in Pak , they should be contacting military first and many research thesis have been written all around the world on How Pakistan democracy has always been dominated by its army. Even recently , when CPEC projects were stalled for few particular reasons (You know why better than me), Chinese diplomats and the owner of companies invested on those projects first talked and sorted things out with Pak military first. In the recent riots and clashes with TTP , it was Pak ISI and army that brokered a deal for Pak elected ministers. When Shah Mehmood (foreign Minister) offended Saudi by stating to chalk out a separate OIC , it was C.O.A.S Bajwa that went to Riyadh to mend the relations. And you say Pakistan PM IK has power because he is an elected leader , but anyone reading these above facts will say he is "Selected " rather than elected.(NO offense intended) .
@@hayderimran7 get better colleagues ..my colleagues tell me the best time to invest in india is now ..skill requirements have changed in india ..we are gettingvto be a more formal economy ..
This is the most ridiculous analysis i have seen from Jyoti Malhotra. They have allowed transport of idian wheat, to look good visa a vis talibs and the rest of world, now india has to send wheat, which will ultimately help taliban gov to stablise, if india dont send it, she will look bad. So basically it is good for them in either way. Having talibs in afganistan will reduce, pak army pressure, having a dependable ally, i dont this point of yours has any logic. Pakistan exonomy i agree with you they are messed up forever. I think pak army is fooling opposition, they are very much part of hybrid governemmet.
Whatever this initiative echoes whatever political vibes, but it’s all sure that whenever and wherever the word Pakistan sounds it churns your stomach Ms. Malhotra as only in this Pakistani pothole, yours and many like yours, receive some sort of acknowledgment of your journalistic prowess, otherwise only a stunted minded can consider this scoundrel Pakistan a country and expect Pakistan to behave in normal ways.
So you are relying on IK-hating Pak journalist to tell you otherwise? Ma'dam, seriously? Why does every analysis has to begin with insulting Imran Khan? Then the army? Then the point to be made that how IK is a puppet, you ppl cannot handle him as the PM of Pakistan, which is a remarkable achievement from him! Pak Gov has been asking Indians to open Kartarpur for a while now, It was Modi who wasnt doing it and finally bent in front of the pressure from Indian Sikhs.... Its amazing how everything has to be twisted to make it Pro-India and Anti-Pakistan. The bias couldn't be more obvious! At least Guptaji shows some respect when he talks about Pakistan, you are very blatant in your bias!
Poor analysis Still huge trust deficit between Modi’s BJP and Pakistani government. Pakistan allowing wheat as they don’t have enough to donate. Kartarpur opened by India now, Pakistan side open already.
Jyoti ji, Nadeem Anjum is still “Crore Commander” Karachi and Faiz Hameed still DG ISI. They are supposed to take up new jobs on 20th Nov. Home Work not done.
Hindutiva ideology is stopping any chance of peace. The attitude of many in India, when pakistan proposed and built kartarpur sums up the fascists we are dealing with now.
Sorry to break it to you, but the Kartarpur corridor was first proposed by Vajpayee on his Lahore bus tour. Vajpayee being the first PM from BJP. ( The so called fascist hindutva party)
@@tron8421 sorry to break it you it was proposed before vajpayee by Indians, but the pak government 2018 took the initiative and just did it, whilst the current Delhi government hated what was happening but had no choice.
@@numanunees2597 I see. Why doesn't the benevolent, kind, all humanitarian pak government trade with India and save its own citizens from Inflation? Why stop aid to Afghanistan? Why rant about India on every UN platform when minority religious sites get vandalised in its own territory almost every month? Why block Srinagar-Dubai flight? Why not show initiative there too? If the Delhi govt. hated it, it would not have opened the road to Kartarpur citing national security. Who would have opposed that decision? Nobody, I repeat, nobody
@@numanunees2597 FYI India is way ahead of pak in terms of military spending, he meant to get economic trade relations in norm with Pakistan so to reduce ind pak border forces and move them towards China. Even Pakistan knows India cannot be targeted, so it’s beneficial,for both to open trade and economy.
@@curiousdesi4340 We are poor countries trade and peace is the only way forward, vajpayee would have done it but pakistan was to blame, now pakistan would do it but India has a ideology and govt who interests are opposite, kashmir recently has pushed it back 5 steps.
@@curiousdesi4340 FYI pak is way ahead of in terms military structure & strategy. If you honestly research, 'the force' youtube channel a top Indian defence explains it best, India still thinks in terms of tactical war, big spending boots on the ground, political interests have taken over. End badly with you mess with pakistan and china they are most powerful country in world now.
@@numanunees2597 India is way ahead in terms of technology with s-400 and Rafael flightier jets and constant upgrade of American technology, but we are no comparison to China. India is not stupid to fight China, we want normal relations with them, it’s China who is messing with all neighbor countries as part of their larger strategy to be super power. Pakistan might have better structure in military, but it won’t win against India if there is a larger war due to economic constraints and global pressure. You think UA-cam are source of truth ? Then I can show you 100 other channels that suggest India is way ahead. Good luck!
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The kartarpur corridor was open throughout from the Pakistan side. Only the Indian side reopened their own side. There’s no “signal” here. It was just Covid-related. Nice to see peace here. Sikh yatris deserve access to all their holy shrines.
At last, few moments for happiness between two countries because of Guru Nanak G. I hope these happiness will continue ever.
"Pakistan govt is not independent" 🙄 , "many journalists write how army wanted him to be elected" overlooking 22 years of political struggle when he failed to get elected , you overlooked wheather people of pakistsn wanted him to be elected or not ? I seriously question your journalism.
Note: imran Kahn is the only politician who struggled for 22 years before being elected as PM in Pakistan.
Excellent Jyoti. A well summarized state of play. It is all about Punjab and all about faith, that is sacred for the Sikhs. Kartarpur may be in Pakistan but this is a man made border. The hearts and minds of Sikhs identify only with Guru Nanak and land borders become irrelevant!. Good time to normalize relations with Pakistan, especially when Afghanistan too needs India's food and funds!
1. never trust your enemies
2. never trust your 'friends'
3. never ever ever trust media
During Ranjit Singh Raj , more importance was given to shrine at dera Baba Nanak , which was lavished with gold plating, kartarpur was a simple affair, with fewer visitors.
So if you don't want to come
Importance doesn't affect on gold plating
Ms. Jyoti - I disagree with your analysis. Pakistan agrees to give transit to Indian wheat because the Taliban requested them to do so. If they do not agree then the Afghan brothers will be really upset and TTP can mess things up in Pakistan. So Pakistan do not want to mess with Afghans and hence they allowed the Indian wheat to transit. Pakistan army never bothered to have peace with India. Having peace with India is never in the best interest of the Pakistan Army. From PM Bajpayee to PM Manmohan to PM Modi, whoever tried to have an "Aman ki Asha", with Pakistanis; always being backstabbed. So "Aman ki Asha" with the Pakistani Army is a Big BS. Constant hostility is the only best Nash equilibrium that Pakistan has achieved. From a Game-theoretic point of view, this actually suits us. The longer they play this game better off we will be. As far as Kartarpur is concerned, they are only collecting the Jizya from the Kafers from Hindustan with rebranded name as Visa fees. Have you seen their foreign reserve? I think they have to. As far as backchannel talk is concerned, there are always back-channel talks. So what so fuss about it. Even in order to send "the wheat" that discussion has to be on the backchannel. Because that is the only channel left open. Hence - sorry Ms. Jyoti. I really disagree with your analysis.
What was aman ki asha and how Pakistan back stabbed?
On Kartarpur issue, its a respectful place for Pakistanis as well. I as a Pakistani also had to pay 'Jizya' to enter.
@@AliImran-kd8mx interesting that you don't know "Aman ki Asha" and "Pakistani backstabbed" Anyway, there are some Indians who are eternally optimistic and believe that the Pakistani Military will accept a peaceful resolution with India. There was a lot of lobbying that happened in New Delhi for peace with Pakistan. Particularly in the 90s. As a result, PM Vajpayee tried a peace accord. That was followed by the Kargil war. Then PM Manmohan Singh tried peace that was followed by the Mumbai attack. Finally, PM Modi tried with PM Nawaz - but ended up with big mess. Of course, Kartarpur is a respectful place for Pakistanis as well. I think historically Jizya is tax on non-muslims (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya). Hence Muslim rulers historically imposed this discriminatory tax on non-muslims to show who is the boss. As a Pakistani, you have to pay Jizya means I believe you are not muslims. My understanding as per sharia law Muslims don't have to pay Jizya.
Pakistani muslims pay as much to enter Kartarpur as Sikhs do.
What peace accord meant? Trade?
@@AliImran-kd8mx peace can be achieved with or without trade. The relation between China and India is very stressful for the last few years. But China is India's largest trading partner
@@SourishDas no I mean how did Aman ki asha aimed for peace? I was too young at Musharraf's time. Later I have never heard anyone discussing it. That's why I asked you..
Thanks for the valuable insights into the reopening of the Kartarpur corridor.
Start with the topic, do Pakistan bashing throughout the video come back to the topic in the end. This is miss chutter chutter's print journalism for you. Jinnah rightly used the 'word' about you people 'incorrigible'.
Reopening has to do with Punjab elections not Pak peace initiative
very insightful!
The presenter is a biased person and is completely blind to comment on Pak position and internal issues.
V good discussion.
I would appreciate all media to be a point of solution rather than a question mark , which it exists, so danke .
Pakistan allow transit of weat through pakistan because the demand of taliban.
"an example of what can be done when people desire something" this statement is naivity at it's best or ascribing a motive when it is not present.
Ridiculous
It is well known to all and sundry that a political twist can be played out in the media on all actions by elected Governments in a democracy. I wish the media, especially The Print, sees this and tries to convey the real implication of such initiatives to the society.
Tailpiece: The “Why”;of politics does not fill the plates at the dining table.
talking about wheat and all that,afghans effects Pakistan coz Pakistan had the most lenient immigration and trade policies for afghans.now there are restrictions,just like iran and other neighboring countries.but since they are neighbours and they have to eat to live,its better to allow transit of wheat.which Pakistan eventually did.
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SPEAKER IS WRONG IN SAYING THAT PAKISTAN IS EXTENDIÑD AN OLIVE BRANCH TOWARDS INDIA.OPENING UP KAPURTALA CORRIDOR IS OWING TO PRESSURE FROM KABUL FOR IT A
Madam if Nehru has not taken Kadhmir to UN, India ewouls have been Geo opolutcally.
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@@imtiazkhan377 Jahil community
Nehru ko IIT, IIM DRDO AUR ISRO jaise institute bhi nhi banane chaiye..... Unko bhi sb kuch Britishers pr blame kr Dena chaiye tha..... Faltu Mai kaam kr rhe they
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Till kashmir dispute is not resolved I think there is no peace in Asia particularly india and Pakistan china and one thing is that every neighboring country is happy with india
Till Pakistan thinks it is an Islamic state there will be no peace
Selecting Prime minister in Pakistan is question mark ??? Why you are laying ?
I've heard some rubbish talked in Print about Pakistan but this one takes the biscuit. Imran Khan is an elected Prime minister let there be no doubt about that. Let me also make it clear: Imran Khan is no boot polisher. He value his dignity and is prepared to stand up and fight for what he believes. Unlike many of his opponents both internally and in international arena.
she definitely hates Pakistan and cannot hide it lol
no offense !
PM IK who used to says that before elections that he will never go to IMF for "bheek" is now going. If that's how men with dignity are then thank god, I am not. PM IK, who used to blame Nawaz Sharif for selling pakistan through CPEC is now calling CPEC as game changer. PM IK who used to say that Military and civilian leadership are on the same page is taking a U -Turn when ISI chief was dismissed without his consent and C.O.A.S. Bajwa appointed new ISI chief and he had to follow the orders of the real power in pakistan. If these are the behaviour of a Dignity leadership then carry on..
@@chiragagarwal1765 bro hes a politician after all..what happened to ache din? look at delhi's pollution in coming days .Modi made way more false promises than IK ..
i have coworkers in India they tell me so many graduates coming out not enough job..
It is not print or just any Indian media Channel saying that Pak PM IK is selected leader , Whole World acknowledge and endorse this fact that if one want to get anything done in Pak , they should be contacting military first and many research thesis have been written all around the world on How Pakistan democracy has always been dominated by its army.
Even recently , when CPEC projects were stalled for few particular reasons (You know why better than me), Chinese diplomats and the owner of companies invested on those projects first talked and sorted things out with Pak military first.
In the recent riots and clashes with TTP , it was Pak ISI and army that brokered a deal for Pak elected ministers.
When Shah Mehmood (foreign Minister) offended Saudi by stating to chalk out a separate OIC , it was C.O.A.S Bajwa that went to Riyadh to mend the relations.
And you say Pakistan PM IK has power because he is an elected leader , but anyone reading these above facts will say he is "Selected " rather than elected.(NO offense intended) .
@@hayderimran7 get better colleagues ..my colleagues tell me the best time to invest in india is now ..skill requirements have changed in india ..we are gettingvto be a more formal economy ..
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This is the most ridiculous analysis i have seen from Jyoti Malhotra.
They have allowed transport of idian wheat, to look good visa a vis talibs and the rest of world, now india has to send wheat, which will ultimately help taliban gov to stablise, if india dont send it, she will look bad. So basically it is good for them in either way.
Having talibs in afganistan will reduce, pak army pressure, having a dependable ally, i dont this point of yours has any logic.
Pakistan exonomy i agree with you they are messed up forever.
I think pak army is fooling opposition, they are very much part of hybrid governemmet.
Seems you are a good friend of the Sharifs
Pakistan govt manage by Army, when Indian govt thugs of Gujarat and RSS. Now which is more shameful, I don’t know.
Don't agree with your analysis.
Voice is little bit not clear mam..may be due to closed room echo..
Mem some body loose election in your country blamed evm mch in pakistan blamed military
Whatever this initiative echoes whatever political vibes, but it’s all sure that whenever and wherever the word Pakistan sounds it churns your stomach Ms. Malhotra as only in this Pakistani pothole, yours and many like yours, receive some sort of acknowledgment of your journalistic prowess, otherwise only a stunted minded can consider this scoundrel Pakistan a country and expect Pakistan to behave in normal ways.
So you are relying on IK-hating Pak journalist to tell you otherwise? Ma'dam, seriously? Why does every analysis has to begin with insulting Imran Khan? Then the army? Then the point to be made that how IK is a puppet, you ppl cannot handle him as the PM of Pakistan, which is a remarkable achievement from him! Pak Gov has been asking Indians to open Kartarpur for a while now, It was Modi who wasnt doing it and finally bent in front of the pressure from Indian Sikhs.... Its amazing how everything has to be twisted to make it Pro-India and Anti-Pakistan. The bias couldn't be more obvious! At least Guptaji shows some respect when he talks about Pakistan, you are very blatant in your bias!
Poor analysis
Still huge trust deficit between Modi’s BJP and Pakistani government.
Pakistan allowing wheat as they don’t have enough to donate.
Kartarpur opened by India now, Pakistan side open already.
Jyoti ji, Nadeem Anjum is still “Crore Commander” Karachi and Faiz Hameed still DG ISI. They are supposed to take up new jobs on 20th Nov. Home Work not done.
With the lies and false news forget about peace with Pakistan. You are shamelessly spreading False News.
When it comes to Pakistan, there is always a dagger behind the cloak
Not possible,they r not rational.if they allow business to go normal, pakistan politics? God knows
Liberate Khalsa faction.
Just bullshit.
Hindutiva ideology is stopping any chance of peace. The attitude of many in India, when pakistan proposed and built kartarpur sums up the fascists we are dealing with now.
Yeah, charging humongous rates to visit holy place is right from paks end direct at good intentions too?
Sorry to break it to you, but the Kartarpur corridor was first proposed by Vajpayee on his Lahore bus tour. Vajpayee being the first PM from BJP. ( The so called fascist hindutva party)
@@curiousdesi4340
Care to put a figure to the “humongous” amount??
@@tron8421 sorry to break it you it was proposed before vajpayee by Indians, but the pak government 2018 took the initiative and just did it, whilst the current Delhi government hated what was happening but had no choice.
@@numanunees2597 I see. Why doesn't the benevolent, kind, all humanitarian pak government trade with India and save its own citizens from Inflation? Why stop aid to Afghanistan? Why rant about India on every UN platform when minority religious sites get vandalised in its own territory almost every month?
Why block Srinagar-Dubai flight?
Why not show initiative there too?
If the Delhi govt. hated it, it would not have opened the road to Kartarpur citing national security. Who would have opposed that decision? Nobody, I repeat, nobody
We need to better our relations with Pakistan... that s the only way we can counter China.
Pakistan and China are Iron bros, you can never counter China through Pakistan never.
@@numanunees2597 FYI India is way ahead of pak in terms of military spending, he meant to get economic trade relations in norm with Pakistan so to reduce ind pak border forces and move them towards China. Even Pakistan knows India cannot be targeted, so it’s beneficial,for both to open trade and economy.
@@curiousdesi4340 We are poor countries trade and peace is the only way forward, vajpayee would have done it but pakistan was to blame, now pakistan would do it but India has a ideology and govt who interests are opposite, kashmir recently has pushed it back 5 steps.
@@curiousdesi4340 FYI pak is way ahead of in terms military structure & strategy. If you honestly research, 'the force' youtube channel a top Indian defence explains it best, India still thinks in terms of tactical war, big spending boots on the ground, political interests have taken over. End badly with you mess with pakistan and china they are most powerful country in world now.
@@numanunees2597 India is way ahead in terms of technology with s-400 and Rafael flightier jets and constant upgrade of American technology, but we are no comparison to China. India is not stupid to fight China, we want normal relations with them, it’s China who is messing with all neighbor countries as part of their larger strategy to be super power. Pakistan might have better structure in military, but it won’t win against India if there is a larger war due to economic constraints and global pressure. You think UA-cam are source of truth ? Then I can show you 100 other channels that suggest India is way ahead. Good luck!