Unpopular opinion: Madsen Storm is the best run n’ gun LMG in the game. Better at midrange than BAR and Burton and a bigger magazine. The magazine placement has yet to get me killed. I understand why the Lewis gun is ranked #1. Very easy to control, accurate, decent size magazine with a good reload time.
My top 5: 1) *Hout Automatic* - An incredibly underrated pick for Support players, mainly due to its -4.0 FSSM (LW) and low minspread giving it laserbeam accuracy at range. Combined with its best-in-class horizontal recoil and improved hipfire by nature of having machine rifle hip spread modifiers, the Huot is almost unfairly versatile, and only suffers from its relatively high TTK. 2) *BAR 1918* - is quite possibly one of the best overall weapons in the game. -Three- *FOUR* absolutely fantastic variants which are all viable in different circumstances (perhaps even the best at their respective roles in the class) all serve to make the BAR one of the meta-defining LMGs and a common pick for many Support players. The only things letting this weapon down are its magazine capacity and the fact its Low Weight variant costs $60 to unlock. 3) *Burton LMR* - is a fantastic and unorthodox LMG tailored for mobile players. Its 5-6BTK damage model seems unimpressive at first, but at 830RPM it actually outdamages the BAR by a 60Hz frame from 0-12m, and then actually fucking stays 5BTK out to 28m, whilst having less hrec per shot than the BAR (though it has similar hrec overall, due to ROF.) In addition, incendiary rounds (6-7BTK on infantry) instantly disable plane parts since they have exactly the same properties as the dogfighter incendiary rounds, so you can fuck over planes far more competently than you’d expect with its magazine size. The Burton would genuinely be the most broken weapon in its class if it weren’t for its extremely limiting 20 round capacity and lack of a Low Weight variant. 4) *Madsen LMG* - has always lurked in the shadows of the other base-game machine rifle, the faster-killing BAR M1918, but offers a fantastically versatile Low Weight variant (the BAR’s costs $60) and a larger magazine. 5) *M1917 MG* - is basically a massive-mag M1909, sharing its fantastic projectile, but differing slightly in other aspects - the M1909 is strictly better off the bipod due to its marginally lower horizontal recoil, but the M1917 ends up being better on the bipod by virtue of its lower minspread. This is unquestionably the best ‘turret meta’ weapon by a country mile for larger game modes, since you can abuse your eternal 5BTK at range, with the best bullet velocity in its class, with the most bullets and the best variants for going prone on top of a fucking rock for the whole game. Absolutely disgusting.
@@cryptotugboat7753 This was a long time ago when Games with Gold was good. I bought the game on sale and a week later it was announced to be a Gold game. Right now it is GPU though.
In vanilla BF1 with Support as my main class, my list looked like: 1) Huot Low Weight - all rounder (b/c its more accurate then the Lewis Gun) 2) MG15na Suppressive - longer range (high bullet velocity, 200 bullets, fast reload) 3) Madson Storm - shorter range (BAR seemed too 1v1, so 31 bullets made more sense to take on multiple targets) Later on my long range became the M1917 Suppressive, and my short range went from Chauchat to Parabellum to finally settling on the Burton but my all-rounder has remained the Huot Low Weight.
Yeah, but they've got to balance the gun out. Can you imagine how unstoppable you'd be if the Huot had the ammo of a Parabellum? It'd be like having John Wick mode enabled
Perino is a suppressing fire type of weapon in this game. Plant yourself in a good position and provide cover for team. Not so much of a “run n gun” lmg like others in the game.
My list would probably be: Madsen MG Lewis IMG Chauchat Parabellum The Madsen seems to fill that “GPMG” role very well for me. Sure it might not have the nicest sight picture and magazine capacity, but that above-average ROF and reload times make it good at CQC battle as well as long range (if you use the Low weight version with the bipod) weapon.
inspired by the actual war, I dedicated all 4 of my classes to be like real countries that fought. Assault: Italian, US, German. Medic: French, Italian, German. Support: British, US, German. Scout: Russian, British, German. I change it every so often.
I really like your list, but I would just flip it upside down. I tend more to the lMG 08/18 and Burton since I generally play very aggressively in an attacking style.
6:mg15 5;parabellum mg14/17 4:burton lmr 3:lewis gun 2:bar m1918/1918a2 1:chauchat m1915 Honestly i love all lmgs in this game with the chauchat being my favourite gun in the game
Great video, JediMasterKris!! Interesting choice for first place!! I also like the Lewis gun, but my favorite Support weapon (and the one that I start most games with) is the BAR Telescopic. I actually like all the Support weapons, each one has its own strengths. All depends how aggressive/defensive you want to play.
Madsen Storm is a laser beam and kills relatively quick too. How the Parabellum wasn’t top 3 is beyond me. Lewis and Burton shouldn’t have even sniffed the list. I got 100 stars with the Parabellum, Madsen and BAR, definitely my top 3 with the Chauchat close behind.
M1917 MG. Now that's the shit. Fucklotsa ammo by WW1 and 'Bf' standards, a decent accuracy especially with the bipod, a fire rate which makes it harder to waste it all, and takes way longer to overheat. As a gun nut who loves heavy guns with those traits it's a dream pretty come true with the caveat you've only 1 additional mag.
As a relatively new player, here's what I want from a support (or any) gun: When I put my target reticle over an enemy and pull the trigger, bullets come out of the gun and hit the enemy. The Lewis gun doesn't do that.
My list would be: 1. Lewisgun 2. Chauchat 3. Benet mercie 4. Huot 5. Bar 6. Parabellum Why I didn’t choose the machine guns? The mg15, the lmg 08/18, m1917 and perino doesn’t require a lot of skill, in my opinion. And I chose the parabellum because it’s not very easy and I like a challenge.
Why did the perino not make it in the list?! It is so overpowered. I really love it. Not in close combat tho. Fast reloading great aim and you kill a Someone very quickly. I use the anti air sight. My most used gun with support
I think if you want to make the Lewis even more versatile, give it the ability of the A2 BAR to switch fire rates between 480-600 RPM. Then you will have the ultimate jack of all trades
Mine are Huot Optical, BAR trench, Chauchat low weight and MG1917 Low weight. The Burton is a close tie with the BAR, but it's harder to use the burton at long range.
1. MG 15 n.A. 2. Chauchaut Low Weight 3. Burton LMR Trench ( I hate the BAR M1918) 4. Parabellum (forgot the rest of the gun's name) 5. Lewis Gun Low Weight 6. M1917 MG Telescopic I much prefer the MG15 over the lmg 0/18 because they have same ammo, but mg15 has faster reloads and I do much better with it.
I'm going to use all of these because Kris said so
Kris is love. Kris is life.
All hail Kris
Ok one punch Johnny sinns lol
I need to know how to sound the train horn please.
MG1917 is great for covering your teammates at long ranges and supressing the enemy snipers.
Couldn't agree more. Surprised its not a bit higher on the list! All good weapons though
The scoped variant might be the best countersniping weapon in the game imo.
Unpopular opinion: Madsen Storm is the best run n’ gun LMG in the game. Better at midrange than BAR and Burton and a bigger magazine.
The magazine placement has yet to get me killed.
I understand why the Lewis gun is ranked #1. Very easy to control, accurate, decent size magazine with a good reload time.
Agreed been using it since the beginning love it
My top 5:
1) *Hout Automatic* - An incredibly underrated pick for Support players, mainly due to its -4.0 FSSM (LW) and low minspread giving it laserbeam accuracy at range. Combined with its best-in-class horizontal recoil and improved hipfire by nature of having machine rifle hip spread modifiers, the Huot is almost unfairly versatile, and only suffers from its relatively high TTK.
2) *BAR 1918* - is quite possibly one of the best overall weapons in the game. -Three- *FOUR* absolutely fantastic variants which are all viable in different circumstances (perhaps even the best at their respective roles in the class) all serve to make the BAR one of the meta-defining LMGs and a common pick for many Support players. The only things letting this weapon down are its magazine capacity and the fact its Low Weight variant costs $60 to unlock.
3) *Burton LMR* - is a fantastic and unorthodox LMG tailored for mobile players. Its 5-6BTK damage model seems unimpressive at first, but at 830RPM it actually outdamages the BAR by a 60Hz frame from 0-12m, and then actually fucking stays 5BTK out to 28m, whilst having less hrec per shot than the BAR (though it has similar hrec overall, due to ROF.) In addition, incendiary rounds (6-7BTK on infantry) instantly disable plane parts since they have exactly the same properties as the dogfighter incendiary rounds, so you can fuck over planes far more competently than you’d expect with its magazine size. The Burton would genuinely be the most broken weapon in its class if it weren’t for its extremely limiting 20 round capacity and lack of a Low Weight variant.
4) *Madsen LMG* - has always lurked in the shadows of the other base-game machine rifle, the faster-killing BAR M1918, but offers a fantastically versatile Low Weight variant (the BAR’s costs $60) and a larger magazine.
5) *M1917 MG* - is basically a massive-mag M1909, sharing its fantastic projectile, but differing slightly in other aspects - the M1909 is strictly better off the bipod due to its marginally lower horizontal recoil, but the M1917 ends up being better on the bipod by virtue of its lower minspread. This is unquestionably the best ‘turret meta’ weapon by a country mile for larger game modes, since you can abuse your eternal 5BTK at range, with the best bullet velocity in its class, with the most bullets and the best variants for going prone on top of a fucking rock for the whole game. Absolutely disgusting.
The bar a2 isnt a low weight variant as it is a completely different weapon being an updated versin
LMG 08/18?
Burton LMR is my favorite despite it covering your entire screen when you ADS.
@@blogJMit’s not as bad as the Madsen
Call me dumb and noobie but I really liked the Benet Mercie. However my fav is the Lewis gun low weight with aa sights
Benet Mercie is very fun to use, I'll roll with that when I'm feeling bored with the other guns.
@@LeeEverett1 which variant do you like
@@gradymccormick2048 Storm with AA sight
its got good skins too.
@@SussyBaka-sv1fj which skins do you have
When you buy battlefield 1 week before it is a gold game :(
I did that, 2 years ago
Isn’t it on game pass ultimate, not gold
@@cryptotugboat7753 This was a long time ago when Games with Gold was good. I bought the game on sale and a week later it was announced to be a Gold game. Right now it is GPU though.
1. parabellum
2. chauchat
3. BAR
4. burton
5. lmg 08/18
6. m1917
Mors 3000 good this but I would put Img ahead of burton
After the TTK update I found the parabelum to be hard to use.
I've found that the BAR A2 is so good on the slower rate of fire mode, really accurate and much much more controllable!
Parabellum is overrated, it's terrible without the bipod
@@bananaskinz6693 get good
The buffed Huot is god tier, surprised that wasnt anywhere on this list
Cause it’s so cheap it kills even if your not looking it’s stupid
Bro the Huot is really underrated
In vanilla BF1 with Support as my main class, my list looked like:
1) Huot Low Weight - all rounder (b/c its more accurate then the Lewis Gun)
2) MG15na Suppressive - longer range (high bullet velocity, 200 bullets, fast reload)
3) Madson Storm - shorter range (BAR seemed too 1v1, so 31 bullets made more sense to take on multiple targets)
Later on my long range became the M1917 Suppressive, and my short range went from Chauchat to Parabellum to finally settling on the Burton but my all-rounder has remained the Huot Low Weight.
I agree with your #1, but for me the Chauchat is THE BEAST!
Hell yea it's a monster especially when you bipod with single shot mode for extra accuracy👍
I hate that gun in hand of enemu but can't wait to unlock
No love for the Huot? Best kept secret in the Support class for me
Maybe cz hes on console... on pc hout is a beast at all ranges!
I'm PS4 and it's still a monster
@@davidgreenhalgh3736 good to know
Huot is good, but I just wish it could hold more ammo, reloads feel quite long
Yeah, but they've got to balance the gun out. Can you imagine how unstoppable you'd be if the Huot had the ammo of a Parabellum? It'd be like having John Wick mode enabled
So sad Perino didn't make it on your list, it has the lowest recoil, with or without the bipod. Saying this from personal experience.
@@IinferusS well tbh i kind of used it alot and got used to it, so i understand how it is the first few time you use it.
Perino is a suppressing fire type of weapon in this game. Plant yourself in a good position and provide cover for team. Not so much of a “run n gun” lmg like others in the game.
My list would probably be:
Madsen MG
Lewis
IMG
Chauchat
Parabellum
The Madsen seems to fill that “GPMG” role very well for me. Sure it might not have the nicest sight picture and magazine capacity, but that above-average ROF and reload times make it good at CQC battle as well as long range (if you use the Low weight version with the bipod) weapon.
madsen storm + aa sight is my go-to lmg
I never really minded the sights it's a beautiful gun
Madden MG.
What, you didn't know John Madden fought in the Trenches?
Hit_Mayo Whoops.
@@DLBBALL
Aw, come on, change it back! I had a good laugh at that, and I'm sure someone else could as well!
08/18 deserves to be higher on the list its super good
Ikr it's with the Mg14 the best LMG in this game by a big margin
Sebastian Kobeh agreed
Agree the suppressive melts everything in its way for eternity
My bar boi gets recognition finally
I’m a support main an so happy to see the m1917 lmg thank you so much for including this gun in the list.
inspired by the actual war, I dedicated all 4 of my classes to be like real countries that fought. Assault: Italian, US, German. Medic: French, Italian, German. Support: British, US, German. Scout: Russian, British, German. I change it every so often.
Same
Dat "an escalation" skin tho 😯
I got that
He also got the Peacekeeper 😥
Yes... the reward of the dedicated and devoted. I use it often. 😏
Can you pls make a 2018 update video of the best weapons in bf 4.
#notificationsquad
@Luke Braun man there are so many fun guns to use in bf4 but honestly you should try out different weapons & see wich one feels the best for you
My top six:
6 lewis
5 madsen
4 benet mercie
3 chauchaut
2 huot automatic
1 BAR
Parabellum is easily the best Support gun, an absolute beast against infantry, calvary, and planes.
Agree with the Lewis gun telescopic, by far one of the most underrated weapons/variants in the class
I’m weird! I like the chauchat with aa sights 🙃
I love this weapon. So easy to control and packs a good punch. I like using the semi-auto firing mode
I really like your list, but I would just flip it upside down. I tend more to the lMG 08/18 and Burton since I generally play very aggressively in an attacking style.
6:mg15
5;parabellum mg14/17
4:burton lmr
3:lewis gun
2:bar m1918/1918a2
1:chauchat m1915
Honestly i love all lmgs in this game with the chauchat being my favourite gun in the game
Mg15 low weight all day every day, I fully expected it to be #1 when I saw the BAR as #2, shocked that it wasn't even on the list!? ;((
I love the Mg15. I just got this game yesterday and both the Mg15 light weight and suppressor both slap
Great video Kris! :D
I think chauchat is the best LMG in the game. The damage output is so damn good, that you can be effective at any given range and time.
5:32 I fucking DIED 😂😂
My top 5
1: MG.15. NA
2: M1917 MG
3: LMG 08/18
4: PERINO MODEL 1908
5: HUOT AUTOMATIC
Best gun in Battlefield 6 - Kris Vector
The support class is the most fun for switching around weapons and play styles.
6.Chauchat
5.BAR M1918
4.Burton LMR
3.MG 15 n.A
2.lMG 08/18
1.Parabellum MG14/17 Low Weight
The recoil of the lmg 08/18
May have exteme recoil but you can controll it just pull down on your mouse or your stick
That V design tho 🤩
No mention of the Benet? The storm version is my gun with the most service stars. A laser beam without a bipod
Well I m surprised that you play like this on Ps...such a good aim you got there sir
Sees the first gun in intro:
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT MONSTROSITY I WANT IT
Were is the MG 15 na or ther Perino Model 1908?
MG15 n.a trench and the Lewis gun are my favourite lmg’s
mine will always be the parabellum
Great video, JediMasterKris!! Interesting choice for first place!! I also like the Lewis gun, but my favorite Support weapon (and the one that I start most games with) is the BAR Telescopic. I actually like all the Support weapons, each one has its own strengths. All depends how aggressive/defensive you want to play.
Madsen Storm is a laser beam and kills relatively quick too. How the Parabellum wasn’t top 3 is beyond me. Lewis and Burton shouldn’t have even sniffed the list. I got 100 stars with the Parabellum, Madsen and BAR, definitely my top 3 with the Chauchat close behind.
The m1917 mg is incredible at taking out bombers solo. Aim in front of them and do long burst, to avoid the overheat point.
M1917 is my fav. Very little recoil. Easy to use with or w/o bipod and huge magazine.
Tbh I prefer the chauchat now
Mine would probably be:
1. Chauchat
2. BAR
3. Madsen
4. IMG 08/18
5. MG 15 n.A.
6. Huot Automatic
Every time I see the BAR with AA sights, I die a little inside.
The AA sights are a must because the normal sights are worthless
@@scottjohannsen541 wrong
Completely wrong the sights are fine
In no particular order
Madsen Storm
Browning M1917 Telescopic
P08 Artillerie
P08 atry might be one of the worst guns in game lool
BF Flyer it’s a good troll weapon if you’re not shit
@@christianbonner1281 kolibri is the best troll weapon lmao
Img 08/18 should be number one
My list
1) Parabellum
2) LMG 08/18
3) Chauchat
4) MG 15 n.A.
5) M1917
M1917 MG. Now that's the shit. Fucklotsa ammo by WW1 and 'Bf' standards, a decent accuracy especially with the bipod, a fire rate which makes it harder to waste it all, and takes way longer to overheat.
As a gun nut who loves heavy guns with those traits it's a dream pretty come true with the caveat you've only 1 additional mag.
As a relatively new player, here's what I want from a support (or any) gun:
When I put my target reticle over an enemy and pull the trigger, bullets come out of the gun and hit the enemy.
The Lewis gun doesn't do that.
Madsen does. Switch that sucker into semi-auto at mid to longer ranges, literally no recoil or spread, even when spamming the trigger.
You either target a player at a very long range or you're walking while shooting
oh shit, lewis gun is in the top. Very fine opinion, i got the most kills with the lewis gun suppresive
My favorite is the plane Jane Lewis gun but I like using all LMGs
I have to agree with Mega skrub.Kris you’ve outdone yourself
Ahhh, i see two members of TBAG
Hi, I’m new to BF1, can you explain why some servers say “KICK TBAG” in their description? Did tbag do something wrong?
My list would be:
1. Lewisgun
2. Chauchat
3. Benet mercie
4. Huot
5. Bar
6. Parabellum
Why I didn’t choose the machine guns? The mg15, the lmg 08/18, m1917 and perino doesn’t require a lot of skill, in my opinion. And I chose the parabellum because it’s not very easy and I like a challenge.
Tbh, the mgs are spam at some points, but they get the job done and are regulated by cooldown, forcing the fire to fire in bursts.
The airship fears nothing, but the Burton lmr leaves it trembling in its own urine.
My list
1) Lewis gun
2) Burton LMR
3) Perino 1908
4) BAR M1918
5) M1917 MG
The Lewis Gun was always my favorite weapon for the Support class
M1917 MG+scope=anti aircraft machine gun
Why did the perino not make it in the list?! It is so overpowered. I really love it. Not in close combat tho. Fast reloading great aim and you kill a Someone very quickly. I use the anti air sight. My most used gun with support
Perhaps it's because of it's high random bullet deviation
I think if you want to make the Lewis even more versatile, give it the ability of the A2 BAR to switch fire rates between 480-600 RPM. Then you will have the ultimate jack of all trades
Mine are Huot Optical, BAR trench, Chauchat low weight and MG1917 Low weight. The Burton is a close tie with the BAR, but it's harder to use the burton at long range.
1- parrabellum low weight
2- mg-15 supression
3- lewis supression
Good choices! I use all of those guns quite a lot
if the Huot has a bigger mag it would be deadly
I put the parino over the mg just because the parino has a higher overheat time
Depends on your skill 🤔
Chauchat is my favorite by far! So good. No matter the range.
I don't know why but I very much dislike the Burton and the Bar. Burton is only reserved for AA duties for me
Mg1917 telescopic is great for suppressing snipers. Probably kill more snipers and medics trying to shoot at long range than anything else.
12:52 1. Lewis Gun
10:15 2. Bar M1918
08:00 3. Chauchat
05:41 4. M1917 MG
03:25 5. Burton LMR
01:05 6. IMG 08/18
1. MG 15 n.A.
2. Chauchaut Low Weight
3. Burton LMR Trench ( I hate the BAR M1918)
4. Parabellum (forgot the rest of the gun's name)
5. Lewis Gun Low Weight
6. M1917 MG Telescopic
I much prefer the MG15 over the lmg 0/18 because they have same ammo, but mg15 has faster reloads and I do much better with it.
Definitely the Parrabellum and the chauchat for me ❤️
1. MG14
2. LMG08
3. M1917
4. MG15
5. Lewis
6. Perino
The Lewis Gun is Love, but MG15N/A is life.
1. P08 artilliery
2. Madsen
3. 14/17
4.1911 extended
5.lewis
6. Browning 1917
Fuck support mains good vid tho krisi boi
How is the Lewis gun 1st I don't understand. It's certainly not a bad gun but no way near the top
I play nothing but support.. Archimedes 3000 is my tag... You are 100% correct. Good, sure, but not even close.
Idk why but I had a nightmare playing with it to unlock the chauchat and as soon as it unlocked I got my way to the top of the score board
1. huot
2. BM telescopic
3. lmg 08
4. perino
5. lewis gun
6. chauchat
I realise this is probably the worst LMG lineup, but hey, it works
Nothing beats the infamous Syndicate gun
1. Parabellum
2. Burton LMR
3. M1917
4. Chauchat
5. LMG 08/18
6. Huot Automatic
My top 6
1.parabellum
2.Img 0818
3. Mg15na
4.mg1917
5perino
6lewis
When your least favorite gun in the entire battlefield franchise is called number 1 🙃
burton lmr trench is an absolute beast.
I hate being sniped from across the map while I’m minding my own business by machine guns
Lewis suppressive is a laser beam with 95 round mag.
I thought it was IMG not LMG. But either way I still love your vids. Keep up the good work!👍
Lowercase l mate
GenjiStrikes I thought that it would be an upper case i because the other letters were upper case
Kris, thought about doing videos on the vehicles of Battlefield 1?
No parabellum love? It has a crazy fast ttk and 100 bullets!
Parabellum hands down. But then again i play mostly infantry only modes.
My top 6 goes like this:
1. Benet-Mercie
2. BAR
3. Chauchat
5. MG15
6. M1917 Browning
old comment but you forgot #4
To this day i hate the BAR and can’t get why people consider it so good
The Chauchat, better than nothing™
M1917 mg and Lewis gun are amazing
People call me noobie but the huot is awesome
Madsen mg "WW1 laser beam" 😎🏹
I'm using the Parabellum LMG08 and Burton Trench