My mom passed away in September of last year. I had a “divine” experience in which I was literally moved by God himself on what to do before her passing. My heart began to palpitate, my hands were shaking and I heard a powerful voice in my heart “divine mercy”. I immediately began to pray the Chaplet of the Divine Mercy; the small ICU room was filled with a smell of incense and roses combined. My mom passed peacefully shortly after we finished with the prayer. Those that are against this prayer need to pray for discernment.
I had a similar experience when my father passed away 18 months ago. I use to help my dad to bed every night when he was dying of cancer. This one night he was breathing heavily, and couldn't open his eyes, so I held his hand and prayed the Divine mercy chaplet, and the holy Rosary. I managed to summons all our family to pray around him, as we finished the chaplet, he passed peacefully. The divine mercy is real, we are so fortunate to be in the eara of this massive plan of salvation for humanity. Take it with open arms, and God will welcome you with open arms in heaven.
Same. I prayed divine mercy chaplet while my dad was dying and I felt the heaviness really be lifted from my entire body. I felt such a sense of peace, like my body was floating and I felt no surer sense of relief of God's presence
Two yrs ago,an anti Catholic Pastor burned the image of Divine Mercy as he considered it as idolatry as usual. Then, he was stricken with Cancer. His MDs told him he had few months to live. He eventually became bedridden . One night he asked God to extend his life . Then, the image of Divine Mercy appeared to him with His rays penetrating his entire body like electric shock .He felt better and even walked to the bathroom that night which hadnt done in months .He was cured. He started sobbing when he realized that the image he burned was also the image which cured him . He converted to Catholicism . Saw his video testimony here in YT about 2 yrs ago.
I'm delighted to hear that you've seen truth in it but it's mixed with lies. Once you are well versed in apologetics, sound teachings I hope you will find heresies in the diary and the chaplet. I'm Polish, researched this subject, prayed over it and I'm asking you to do the same, to follow the truth. I contacted sisters in Lagiewniki, Cracow, Poland, and like many researchers was denied access to a copy of original manuscript of 'Diary'.
@RG-iw7py Let's see. Jesus warned of a potential chastisement like the old testament God does several times but would rather you trust in his mercy. Which is consistent to how God acts and behaves throughout the old and new testament unless you want to start saying the old testament is straight up satanic. Nah you tripping.
Im an eastern orthodox but im devoted to the divine mercy chaplet. I read the diary of saint Faustina when i was in deep sorrow and it made me closer to Lord Jesus. Let me tell you an interesting story I had with this chaplet. After I finished the diary, I prayed to God to ask Him if I should pray this chaplet or not, because as an eastern orthodox lay person I wasnt used to the wording of the prayer of offering Jesus up. I asked God if I should pray it or not, or just keep meditating on the diary which gave me boundless widsom. I asked God for a sign. I told God, If you want me to pray this chaplet, make me see the Divine Mercy image during my journey in another country I was taking at that time. If I saw it, I knew that God gave his OK. If I didnt, it meant God didnt want me to pray it. At one point abroad we enter a religious store to buy some religious books in english. The first moment we enter the store, my not very religious aunt calls me over saying: look at this cute statue! And hands me a little statue of Jesus. It was a Divine Mercy Jesus statue. God answered the challange and wanted to make it sure that it was clear, by literally handing me thru a person this blessing to pray it. Hope you enjoy this story and gives you strenght to pray the chaplet. I love both eastern orthodox and catholic faiths. Both are fountains of wisdom! Take care all!
Jesus, as described in the diary, told Sister Faustina that the Devotion to Divine Mercy would initially be suppressed before being accepted and promulgated by the Church. So, the fact that it was suppressed following that prophecy lends weight to the validity of the apparitions. We, as Catholics, are not required to believe in what is revealed in private revelations, so disbelieve if that's what you think is the right thing to do. For me, the Divine Mercy Devotion has been a source of consolation and great graces. I'll continue to give this Devotion great attention.
Logically with our minds it makes sense why pharisees such as Caiphas and roman soldier and thief on the cross were past tense disbelievers mockers and doubters because if i were existing then i wouldnt have believed him! Until of course i crucified him on the ❌🚫 cross! Me being in the position of Christs enemys Caiphas,Longinus,Thief on cross. Eventually believed christ. I believe the possibly true tale of Longinus. And definitely thief. But caiphas never repented and felt remorse. He was simply distraught and perhaps regret but that's not saying SORRY I SINNED LORD GOD to christ so he doesnt count as a true repentance. Only longinus and thief do. And so Christ accepted them all these two sinners into heaven. If makes sense that we should doubt faustina until we read it ourselves and convinced by God the fathers Great Works unseen by feeble minded feasible humans! God bless amen!
@@IsraelCountryCube I also wonder where I would have stood as a Jew or Roman during the time of Christ. It's a daunting question, and, despite all the troubles of this present time, it makes me happy that I grew up in an era when the theology of who Jesus was and is has become very clear.
I get sick of people who have greater belief in the existence and power of demons than in the existence and power of Jesus, God, the Holy Spirit, the saints and angels.
Truth. The power God granted them when they were free. And once left God. They become discontinued from infinite power and reflection of God Father ultimate power. Obviously any demon could and would Physically mortally wound us if were not caring of our pride and God will allow them to excersize their power on humans who act stupidly.@@unacceptablesisterpeter3431
💯 Well said! Thank you for putting in words what I was thinking. When people get so hostile towards the idea of Jesus with the Holy Spirit working through His angels and saints, it's as if they're limiting what God truly does.
He’s the one that really got me to understand and love the Divine Mercy devotion. I quickly got a copy of his book explaining Divine Mercy and recommend it to anyone. I especially love his story about his parents re-igniting their faith, and his mom describing praying the Rosary as “shooting bullets against Satan” and likening the Rosary to “a machine gun” 😂😂 probably one of my favorite quotes and mental images ever.
At Fatima, the Virgin Mary stressed also the importance of devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. She requested that devotion to Her Immaculate Heart be placed side by side with devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
I pray both, as I'm sure many others do; and my favorite litany is the Sacred Heart of Jesus. I don't think there's a plot to replace the rosary, I think it's personal choice/preference, or there are some people pray the DM because it's quicker.
Multiple times, in my dreams, I heard myself praying the Divine Mercy prayer "Jesus, I trust in You" (when faced with dire circumstances: tornado, car going backwards over a cliff). In another dream, I saw myself standing on a very narrow straight, lit path (as wide as my shoulders). To the left and right side of me, were walls of utter thick black darkness. In front of me, but at a distance from me, I saw Jesus standing as He appears in the Divine Mercy picture. His eyes were fixed on mine, and mine on His. As I walked toward Him, neither looking to the left, nor to the right, but with my eyes fixed on Jesus eyes, I repeatedly prayed out loud "Jesus, I trust in You!" As I approached Him, maybe three feet away, Jesus extended His arms (as in a cross formation) and when I stood right in front of Him, He wrapped His arms around me, embracing me. The Divine Mercy prayers, devotion/novena are most definitely revealed by Lord Jesus Himself. These prayers are saving souls from eternal damnation. Believe and pray them! You won't regret it.
I dont think nor feel , and i know lack the intuition my soul is being saved. Are these prayers really useful? I can judge them because they havent been caught really doing much of anything while i pray them and after. I have mabey more than 5 but i dont pray them at all. I have 30+ religious material worth of hours of prayer that i couldn't finish in one year. But im in doubt. Im sorry Jesus just please if i pray this prayer clean my from my stupid chocies and disgusting desire to lust!!!!
@@IsraelCountryCubemany great figures of the faith have experience doubt and bleak times. You arent alone. Keep praying, even when you dont feel like it, even when you feel it is doing no good. This period will pass. I'll pray for you, ok?
Because Faustina claims she's more united to Christ than His mother (Who shares DNA) "Now, I know that it is not for the graces or gifts that you love Me, but because My Will is dearer to you than life. That is why I am uniting Myself with you so intimately as with no other creature."
@@GP-dp4mr Hmmmm. That IS quite weird. But as Jimmy says, that could be due to a translation issue. The fact that Pope John Paul II believed in the Divine Mercy as much as he did makes me inclined to accept it, too.
I have received great consolation from the Divine Mercy devotion and just saying the 3 o’clock prayer is something that helps me reflect on my sins and God’s Mercy. I also offer it up for the sick, suffering and dying.
The other argument I’ve heard is “it preaches mercy without repentance” which is so laughable as to be silly, it commands confession which requires repentance, the only thing it preaches is to not fear repentance
Yeah I have no clue where they get this "no repentance" stuff. I always think of it as the reminder to keep perseverance in repentance and personal reform because Christ will always forgive when I fall and repent. There's always hope, which is one of the Big 3.
Isn't it a good thing we Catholics have the Magisterium to tell us what to believe?! Holy Mother Church says St Faustina is a canonized saint. Holy Mother Church established Divine Mercy Sunday. If we don't want to say the chaplet we don't have to, but let's not discourage others. Or fight. Or demonize. Let's spend our time time getting closer to Jesus, Mary, Joseph and all the saints and angels and let Holy Mother Church tell us if something is to be observed or avoided. Take the burden off your shoulders:)
The Church did suppress the devotion and St. Faustina’s writings for a time. Like the early Christians, though, God kept it from dying out and the DM order exploded from being persecuted down to 1 priest to a worldwide devotional practice with the Marians seeing new vocations and groups. After such a stringent process by Church authorities and St. Pope John Paul II not falling for satan’s trick (a group of anti-DM in the Vatican slipped a document to permanently ban the practice behind a huge stack of documents for him to sign, but that day he decided to start from the back and immediately made them go back and re-evaluate everything), anyone who claims the Divine Mercy as ‘satanic’ or ‘of the devil’ is considered foolish in my eyes.
Bc someone is a "canonized saint" doesn't mean everything they ever said was good & true and must be believed. St Christopher was a saint and then he was deleted bc no evidence of ever being real
Sr Faustina was canonized by Pope JPII. But in one of her diary entries claims she saw demons tormenting souls in Purgatory. Contradicting the St Augustine who said that souls in Purgatory have already defeated the demonic and are saved therefore demons in Purgatory cannot be. This & other blunders appear there but JPII wanted her sainted by all means
"A Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" the fruits of divine mercy speak for themselves. Fr. Chris Alar and many of the Marians who believe and follow Divine Mercy are bringing a lot of people to the Church, if this were satanic, it would be pushing people away.
@@drjanitor3747 If you believe there are two forms of Catholicism, you need to take that to confession as a mortal sin. As a practising Catholic, you are forbidden form dividing the body of Christ, regardless of your preferred form of liturgy.
There is no Vatican 2 sect. The Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires supervised at the time by the now Pope Francis, and compared by blood test to an 8th century Eucharistic Miracle, conclusively proved Vatican 2 did not do away with the sacraments nor could it. Moreover God chose Buenos Aires to defend his future Pope Francis. Go to confession.
@@drjanitor3747There have been countless schisms and splits since the onset of the Catholic Church, for all sorts of reasons and excuses, many claiming that they are the original or the true one. You are not special. You want to think you are by “being against the establishment” or some other idiocy, you’re just another prideful prick who thinks they know better than Christ.
@@drjanitor3747The documents from Vatican 2 were not heretical. Everybody signed them including archbishop Lefebvre. Pope Benedict said the documents have to be interpreted in light of tradition. There is no break or discontinuity in the Catholic Church. Pope Francis is the Pope.
It seems like a lot of Catholics have scrupulosity/ocd. I reverted 3 yrs ago and but had moral ocd my entire adult life. I have to be careful of the content I watch so it doesn’t make me obsess over whether I am doing Catholicism “right”.
I'm from Krakow. The first version of the image is not the best one - the one painted during St. Faustina's lifetime. When she saw it, she cried saying it was nothing like what she saw in her visions, and indeed there are no visible wounds on Christ's hands and feet in that version. But it was Adolf Hyla's version, created after St Faustina's death, that young Karol Wojtyla (St John Paul II) prayed in front of, even before he had taken religious orders.
@@jonatikaWwe I actually wrote a blog post on blogger that describes the history of the Divine Mercy Image, and why that second version by Adolf Hyla plays a special role there. krakowski-ruch-katolikow.blogspot.com/2023/07/three-generations-of-artists-from.html
@@scottritz7520 My point is rather to do with the involvement of St John Paul II in the institution of the Divine Mercy devotion. And the role Hyla's version played in his life, as if it were placed in his biography by Providence.
@@cmcc9589 Perhaps you're partly right! In her diary, St Faustina wrote that when she saw the original first version, she was so dissapointed with it she wept a good deal (Diary 313). However, it was the second version that sparked John Paul II's interest in the Divine Mercy devotion. The author's name was Adolf Hyla, and he painted it soon after Faustina's death. www.saint-faustina.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/01/Cudowny-obraz-Jezusa-Milosiernego-z-Sanktuarium-w-Krakowie.jpg
I think the biggest problem with St Faustina’s diary and the Divine Mercy devotion in the eyes of some Traditionalists is that it conflicts with their belief - which is often based on earlier private revelations- that the vast majority of people are going to hell. To them, Jesus seems too merciful in St. Fausina’s visions to be true
Agree. They don't believe God is true merciful even though St Theresa said that one of the biggest issues with Catholics is that we don't believe enough in our Lord's Mercy.
@@peaceandlove544 I think St. Theresa was saying that we don't even deserve to be alive for another second because of our sins yet God sustains us and gives us chance after chance to change. Even to the last seconds of our life He gives us the opportunity to make an act of true contrition and be saved; He is indeed a God of unfathomable mercy. Yet many many souls don't appreciate this gift and refuse to convert; that's when God shows his justice.
Good grief! Of all the ways to discourage and cause people to toss hope and faith into oblivion. Now, the Divine Mercy is wrong?!?! Satan IS at work. Catholics come together, our prayers are what’s left to save our children and grandchildren. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us all.
And we can't see it! We are all fighting with each other instead of loving each other, and we are calling all God's interventions evil. All going according to Satan's plan, people. Division and rejection of the means to save us.
Really?? Do you accept Faustina is more united to Christ than the Mother of God herself? "Now, I know that it is not for the graces or gifts that you love Me, but because My Will is dearer to you than life. That is why I am uniting Myself with you so intimately as with no other creature."
@@GP-dp4mr I love reciting the Divine Mercy chaplet, and I have found it quite powerful in my own testimony, but in terms of that quote, I suppose it could be said Mary is no longer a creature on Earth by the time of Sister Faustina's writings; however, I have seen someone else write this, and it does concern me. Is there a proper answer someone can provide to rebut this? Is it a translation issue?
@@DelioJez creature can mean those in heaven or on earth including angels, this is very troubling imo Regarding the devotion itself, I struggle to reconcile this and the sacred heart devotion?
@@GP-dp4mr Yes, it can mean that, though the context of the writing, like prior and after that paragraph, may be relevant to identify it as earthly creature, but I don’t know what that context is as I don’t have it in front of me. What do you mean you struggle to reconcile it with the Sacred Heart Devotion? Thanks
Same!!! Praying a different version with my family every night…and pray the rosary every night before bed and at other times during the day when I have the time to on certain days, so there goes the whole “divine mercy replaces the rosary” argument. Have a blessed Divine Mercy Sunday!
"Eternal Father, I offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your Dearly Beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, for the atonement for our sins and those of the whole world" - literally every priest on earth celebrating the Holy Mass.
Literally no priest ever believed Faustina was more united to Christ than Mary yet here we are...... "Now, I know that it is not for the graces or gifts that you love Me, but because My Will is dearer to you than life. That is why I am uniting Myself with you so intimately as with no other creature."
@@GP-dp4mr She is saying that she united herself to Christ more than to any creature, not that Christ is united to her the most of all creatures. So your claim is wrong.
"literally every priest on earth celebrating the Holy Mass." Then why are you praying as a mantra the prayer that is only proper to a sacerdotal priest? Does this not confuse and mix together two different things? 1) The Holy Eucharist IS the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus the Son of God offered for atonement/propitiation of sins - not the Divine Mercy Chaplet, which is just a devotional prayer (sacramental). The Divine Mercy Chaplet is not the actual Blessed Sacrament (the Holy Eucharist). 2) Lay people are not priests and therefore cannot offer the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ to the Father - only an ordained sacerdotal priest can do that because he shares in the single High Priesthood of Jesus Christ - Who it is that offers Himself to the Father on our behalf through the action/words of one of his human priests at the Words of Consecration. Lay people can only offer the sacrifice in union with the priest, not without him. So again, why would one pray a repetitious prayer of offering - "I offer" - as if they were themselves a sacerdotal priest? At the least end of the spectrum, this confuses people about their role and that of the priest and conflates these two things which is very much a problem in the Novus Ordo world. Jimmy's answers are weak - he seems desperate to defend the sunk ship of a post-Vatican 2 wreck - he has a lot invested in that ship - which in truth is NOT the bark of Peter.
At Fatima, the angel made the children pray an even more explicit version of the priestly sacrifice prayer look it up. I pray it very often. You're uneducated about the devotional practices of reparation of sins, you should stop speaking in pride and submit to the Church.
@@ElijahSchneider-x5e It doesn't confuse it at all. Firstly, you're assuming that these words are sacred such that it is "only proper to a sacerdotal priest". If such is the case, the devotion wouldn't allow for it. Do you really think the Pope (and the magisterium) would promulgate something "only proper to priests", something obviously not in the See's interest? Finally, of all the objections to the DM noted, this prayer's involvement is NOT one of them, at best it's a fringe theory that seemingly no one, lay or religious, takes seriously.
Divine Mercy chaplet takes less than 10 minutes to pray. If someone is telling me that they don’t have enough time to pray a rosary and a divine mercy chaplet in the same day, they’re telling me that they literally don’t even have one hour of free time. If someone doesn’t have even one hour of free time, they have no business scrolling on the Internet.
Something tells me that if St. Faustina had described seeing an vengeful Jesus who started telling her about stern justice and hellfire, non of the radtrads would have a problem with it. You wouldn't hear anything about holes in hands.
Spot on. Sometimes I do not know if they are either so sure of their salvation and anyone below their standards should rot in Hell, or they really love to fear. Divine Mercy is absolute gift and Grace. Having few minutes? Going like this...Dear Lord there is a dying person somewhere, right now, someone who is not prayed for. Someone who is in great danger of going to Hell. If it is according to your will please take this prayer as it is prayed for that soul according to your choice. This idea came to me from above, I believe. I did not know for which the next pray should be offered and the mentioned appeared in my mind. :)
The Rosary as Mary asked for it at Fatima and as it was prayed for most of the history of Catholicism had 15 decades, not 5. Unless you did mean 15, in which case, very well.
@youareblessedyouareloved928 😀 Thank you, that's exactly what I meant. I talk text on my phone, and it it's kind of like a child, in one ear and out the other, and then makes its own decisions🤣
I used to be Orthodox, I find this a really dumb argument. Almost none of the early icons of the church depicted him with holes in his hands. I'm a traditional Catholic as well, but trads go way too far with petty things all the time 😆 many of them are never happy either with anything Catholic lol
It’s a very dumb argument, it comes from lefevrists. St. Faustian was vindicated in 1976, Lefevre broke off from the Church in 1975, hence his followers still believe the erroneous status quo of pre-1976 which is a bad translation of her diary. Furthermore Divine Mercy Sunday is officially promulgated by the church as of 2000! (Which the children of lefevre reject due to their schism)
Well as a traditional Catholic, many Catholics going way over the top with the private revelation stuff, sometimes putting it above scripture and traditional teaching. I thought orthodox taught against mental imaginations during prayer?
I did the divine mercy chaplet during lent of 2023 and I was attacked so hard after that, every good person had medical or personal crisis in their lives that separated us and I’d just been pulled away from my old bad friends, it was an extremely hard time after saying that Chaplet through, I think it’s powerful, I don’t think it’s demonic
another thing about the divine mercy and the rosary, saint faustina is in the Congregation of the Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy which has secial devotion to the most holy rosary and so she never stopped praying the rosary infact she was required to pray many a day
@@josuesilva9409 Paragraph 476 Substitute for rosary - as millions do now Nigerian visionary Chaplet of Precious Blood 🩸 no 700 page Diary 📔 yet very adamant Pray rosary first 🙏
I’m so glad that my daughter had already heard this because today a dear friend told me she had heard from a few sources that Divine Mercy was not true! She says it every day! I was sad that someone was undermining her faith. I told her it was the work of Satan to try and chip away at people’s faith in Jesus and his divine mercy. Then my daughter shared this and now I have a great source to help her see the truth. Thanks gentlemen! God Bless!
ST. TERESA OF AVILA: “Jesus has no body on earth but yours. No hands, no feet on earth, but yours. Yours are the eyes through which His compassion looks out on the world. Yours are the feet with which He is to go about doing good, and Yours are the hands with which Jesus blesses the world now.”
It's a prayer to God the Father for mercy that focuses on Christ's redemptive suffering. Does that sound like the kind of thing demons would come up with?
So we are told to focus on Agony, Scourging, Thorns, Carrying Cross & Crucifixion each decade of Chaplet? Jesus name said middle of every Hail Mary I’d only pray it AFTER Rosary
@@jimmydarm I fell into the trap of praying instead of Rosary Akin: Mary didn’t say only rosary on rosary Well she didn’t say replace rosary, that’s for sure
My mom stayed at my house and flipped out on me because I had that picture on the wall. she started screaming that it was full of demons and that’s not her Jesus and she made me take it down while she stayed at my house. She is LDS and a few days later called me a satanist for being Catholic. please pray for her.
Thanks for this! I have read full fledged Catholics saying that this is satanic and I couldn’t find much on it. Disgusting people. Wait until people praying the Divine Mercy to free them from purgatory and only will they know how precious it is.
The Blessed Mother also came to St Faustina and never once discouraged anyone from saying the Chaplet. Her message was consistent with her messages at Fatima and everywhere else, "pray ptay pray to my Son!!"
This was an odd response. Of course Jesus post resurrection has wounds in his hands……I have no opinion on the authenticity of the Devine Mercy controversy but I would suggest apparitions of the risen Lord would have wounds.
@@ocay2854I delayed putting up a crucifix for a long time but had DM pic up….Something is wrong with that Crucifix represents our salvation Paul: I preach Christ crucified
Yes, that bothered me too. Many saints were attacked by the devil, who would sometimes appear as Jesus himself. St. Teresa of Avila said her litmus test was to see if Jesus had the wounds or not, because when he didn't, it would be the devil trying to deceive her. So I did not appreciate Jimmy's glib response.
Less people were praying the rosary before Divine Mercy was approved. Many people ( older) would tell me they had to pray the rosary everyday growing up, and they would never pray it again. 😮 For those I know praying the divine Mercy, they, we always pray the rosary first. As far as His wounds being missing, maybe Jesus wants us to focus on the wounds of His Heart.
The Divine Mercy chaplet takes like maybe less than 10 minutes to pray. Or maybe 10 minutes at most. I pray both it and the rosary. They're also several other chaplets available in the church. For example the chaplet of Saint Michael the archangel. You can pray both You can pray all
Exactly. It is like saying you can only admire, or have devotion to, one saint, or you can only work on one virtue at a time, or obey only one Commandment . . . because, there are only so many hours in a day! Nonsense.
Ridiculous and sinful to suggest such a thing. Many miracles have been attributed to the image alone, it’s a powerful and miraculous image which should have utmost respect
Why are people so determined to create an either/or dichotomy? Ours is a both/and Faith. You can pray BOTH the rosary AND the Divine Mercy Chaplet on rosary beads. Imagine that!
"Where does the Virgin Mary tell us we need to pray the Rosary?" Why Fatima? Why not in 1214 in her appearance to St. Dominic when she gave him the Rosary?"🤔 Fatima's acceptance (like the first private revelation of the Rosary to St. Dominic) is due to it not relying on private revelation - in both cases they are aligned with theology and public revelation. Divine Mercy is a private revelation like Akita, and when they've been given approval by the local Bishop and then Rome (which I understand has significant rigour) it should be considered as an adjunct but NOT core. Any "trad" would know that and wouldn't say that it advocates for the replacement of the Rosary. FYI Jimmy, the Rosary is not about Mary or for Mary... praying the Rosary is the contemplation of the Divine Mysteries....of Christ's life (so not sure what you meant by "did Mary ever say pray only my Rosary and don't show devotion to my son" 🤔) - I agree that we should not leap to condemning everything as demonic if we don't understand it... God will as he has done throughout the Old Testament communicate through private revelations - discernment is key. Acts are considered public revelation, but at the time for Paul for example when Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus it was a private revelation.
No way we found the clown who seems to question The Divine Mercy. You are getting a such a good thing which is basically infinite aka God's mercy and you are basically refusing it due to some baseless conspiracy. If you are questioning the Divine Mercy (which I hope you aren't) I will just say this if it was demonic we would have had millions of people of who pray this prayer being possessed by demons which clearly isn't the case, otherwise we would have had reports of religious people using super human strength or screeching out like madmen.
@@denniselroy4517 You clearly misunderstood (or completely missed) my point. I was clearly stating why it being a private revelation should not call into question its authenticity after it has been given approval by the local Bishop and the Pope. How did you miss that?
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Great comment; I was just at the Holy Rosary chapel in Bologna Italy last lent what an experience gorgeous Basilica of St Dominic. Yes I thought the Rosary was given to Blessed Allan who was from the south of France who brought it to St Dominic still researching this. It is possible because the rosary was being used to defeat heresies by Dominic in the south of France first.
2:04 she saw and met Him. It wasn’t just a painting. Secondly crucifictions were done through the wrists, you wouldn’t see them in His palms if it was really Him. 3rd, the face of The Lord in the ORIGINAL Divine Mercy painting is almost a direct match to the face on The Shroud of Turin
What I love about Catholicism is it's richness - there is room for many devotions and traditions. You can be to devoted the Sacred Heart, the Immaculate Heart, etc. and still have room for Divine Mercy. But yeah, I knew a super trad from the TFP (an organization I like devoted to Fatima and the Rosary) who had a problem with The Divine Mercy. This person also had a problem with Saint John Paul II. Holier than thou attitude.
Nothing at all. Just certain groups of people (mainly radical trads) trying to gate-keep the Church so she looks more like what they imagine her to have been before “modernism” took over. Most of the Divine Mercy spreaders have no issue saying praying the Rosary is also great, as they understand the dual role of the Sacred and Immaculate hearts. I’m still praying for a big St. Joseph style of devotion, so we can have the Sacred, Immaculate, and Chaste hearts all together.
In the wise words of Fr. Chris Alar, the Rosary and the Divine Mercy Chaplet are complimentary. He said the Rosary was the Liturgy of the Word and the Divine Mercy Chaplet is Liturgy of the Eucharist
I only ever knew one priest who was seriously opposed to Divine Mercy. He was removed from the priesthood a few years later for abuse. Tells me all a need to know about which side of this debate is "satanic."
There is a Calvinistic streak to some of the more conservative traditional Catholics. Being told that God's Mercy is universal and even more deserved by the greatest sinners is a difficult thing to hear. Obviously, the Rosary and the Chaplet aren't mutually exclusive. But, consider when Our Lord was making these revelations, how much evil was going on in the world. Humanity had a greater need for the message of God's Mercy than ever before and still does. Is it demonic for anyone to try to deny God's Mercy to sinners? Would the people denying this be the same people resenting Jesus extending His Mercy to tax collectors and adulterers? We have to be careful not to judge and condemn others in our hearts. It may be difficult when we see people doing great evil, or when great evil is done to us, but God wants us to be humble and put these issues in His hands.
I believe in the Divine Mercy but I have something that always sticks with me. As we pray the chaplet, to whom are we praying? God the Father? So when we say “ For the sake of His sorrowful passion ( referring to Jesus) have mercy on us and on the whole world. But I thought Jesus was to be the judge of the whole world. Hence, I’d rather say, “For the sake of YOUR sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.”
In Divine Mercy you are praying “Eternal Father. i offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of your beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ.” Just like in Catholic Mass all prayers are offered up to the Father through Christ
Some of us value these conversations and care about the salvation of ourselves and the people Go watch the thousands of testimonies of people who go to hell and heaven
@@Maicon-b1b my dear friend in Christ, I too value these conversations! I just couldn’t believe that a Catholic could possibly think that the apparitions to St. Faustina about the mercy of Jesus could be of Satanic origin. Perhaps I may have sounded sarcastic - my bad!
In addition to weird first answer, Akin says Mary never said only rosary on rosary Well she certainly didn’t suggest replacing rosary (I don’t recommend chaplet but only pray after rosary if so)
I do have some reservations about a few of the things Faustina claimed that Jesus said to her… but that aside, I do think the divine mercy is a lovely prayer.
She claimed that Jesus said he was uniting himself to her so intimately as with no other creature. She also claimed that Jesus told her she was purer that angels. Those types of claims are suspect to me because why would Jesus elevate her even above Mary? But they said in this video that there were translation errors so I’m hoping that’s all it is. I will have to look into that more.
@@Intrepid_InsomniacChrist didn't elevate her above our blessed mother He just said she was purer than some angels which makes sense because angels have fallen before
I would say that the Divine Mercy devotion is perfectly valid precisely because it is Christocentric. This is how we test the spirits...they must confess that Christ is the Lord. This would include any apparition or private revelation.
I say the same thing about "End Times" stuff. I am alive today and will be gone in flash sometime in the future. If it happens in the "End Times", what is the difference? Live your best life this moment. Do not worry, do not be afraid. Jesus is closer to us than we are to our own thoughts.
I was a sinful, cold Catholic. Not even Mass on Sunday. Researching into prophecies, I ran into St Faustina's diary. It slowly brought me home. Now I'm a marian who attends TLM as regularly as my health allows me to. Laudetur Iesus Christus!
The Divine Mercy Chaplet actually led me to start praying the rosary as the long and repetitive prayers are a bit hard for me to pray. I'm right next the Divine Mercy Shrine in Vilnius as of this moment and I invite You, everyone to celebrate the week of Divine Mercy together!!!❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 There is a 24/7 adoration, 24/7 streaming online: youtube.com/@dievogailestingumosventove3457?si=g9MpnVWW5qpPa_jf And this Sunday 04-07, this Divine Mercy Sunday there will be celebrated Mass in English at 5PM EEST🕊❤️🔥❤️🔥
My great-grandparents and grandparents always prayed the Rosary at 6:30PM, after supper was cleaned up. That's what time Father Hogan was on the local radio station leading the Rosary every night, 7 days a week.
One prayer used in the Eastern Rites is the Divine Mercy prayer: Lord Jesus Christ,have mercy on me, a sinner. Gospel based. George Jetson simple. Engrained in their spiritually for centuries....
And the Trisagion prayer too, which appears at the end of the chaplet. I'm Byzantine Catholic, and my pastor thinks it's possible that St. Faustina probably had some Ukrainian ancestry because of the very Eastern nature of the prayer in the Devine Mercy Chaplet.
@@hammerheadmsOr: 1. The Trisagion is part of the Good Friday Liturgy in the LR. 2. Poland is the crossroads between western and eastern Europe. It is possible she had some contact with an Eastern Rite in Communion.
All the Divine Mercy devotion shows is that The lord is not bound to the rules He sets and can make exceptions based on His own good pleasure, which is directly a TRUE CHURCH TEACHING.
Divine Mercy was rejected at first because of poor translation. When Pope JP read it in the Polish, his first language, he was able to see the translation errors and correct them. Pope JP, DM, and our troubled times were brought together in our time intentionally by God. The world is more embattled than ever before.
One important reason why the Faustina Divine Mercy devotion is not from heaven is that it over-emphasizes mercy at the expense of Divine justice. Diabolical forces are trying to replace Sacred Heart devotion with "Divine Mercy devotion". Another bad thing is that the "Divine Mercy" image of Jesus does not show the loving Heart of Jesus but hides It, and this contradicts what the Sacred Heart wanted, & that is for His Heart to be exposed publicly & adored by the faithful !!
You are a lefevrist aren’t you, stop rejecting the authority of the living magisterium and things will clear up for you. (I used to be a lefevrist also)
First of all, it's merely a depiction. Second, that is the "blood and water which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus" as seen on the Cross. Did not His most Sacred Heart pour out blood and water? This devotion, in fact, can complement devotion to His Most Sacred Heart. I think we can get too caught up on things such as this. Is not something that encourages us to lean on His love and mercy a good thing? May God's love and blessings be upon you and your loved ones.
First of all a picture of a picture of a picture is *NOT Jesus.* Secondly, the blood water burst from His right side therefore symbolizing the new covenant and His church. The DM image shows the blood & water emerging from the center of the chest and that is *NOT* biblical. Thirdly, the Divine Mercy devotion *Demands confidence in an image beyond that allowed by the church* "I demand the worship of My mercy thru the solemn celebration of the feast and thru the veneration of the image which is painted. *By means of this image I shall grant many graces to souls.* It is to be a reminder of the demands of My mercy bcz even the strongest faith is of no avail w/o works" (veneration of the image = works)(Diary 742) Vs: Catechism of Trent: "It is clear that there are two chief ways in which God’s majesty can be seriously outraged. The first way is by worshipping idols and images as God, or believing that they possess any divinity or virtue entitling them to our worship, by praying to, or reposing confidence in them, as the Gentiles did, who placed their hopes in idols, and whose idolatry the Scriptures frequently condemn." So then the Catechism prohibits having confidence in the image which is demanded by the devotion
I always thought it was weird the Divine Mercy image IS the Sacred Heart of Jesus portrait ......only they blotted out His Sacred heart and put rays of light over it.. And the other thing I heard from a priest is that it is (the devils) intention to stop the Rosary which Our Lady told us to say. The divine mercy chaplet uses the Rosary... to say a different prayer... not the Rosary which Our Lady told us to say.
It's funny you use that argument to attack the private revelation of St. Faustina - so do you attack St. Gertrude also? Because her chaplet for the Holy Souls in purgatory is also prayed on the rosary beads Or do you just have a particular hate for St. Faustina?
I use the Rosary beads to say the Jesus Prayer also. lol. They are beads used to keep track of the numbers of prayers, it isn’t magic, anyone can make a rosary. you don’t even need a rosary, you can use your fingers.
lol you sound like a leftist, criticism of something bad means you must hate them! Must be an anti-faustinist right ?! Except the church does not require us to accept this flimsy private revelation
There is like 5 other chaplets you also use the rosary beads for. Chaplet of St. Michael, St. Gertrude, Holy Wounds Chaplet, etc. Do you think all of them are demonic too?
Most critics tend to largely be in online circles. I’ve never met anyone in real life that ever had a problem with the devotion. Ultimately you’ve just got to go to church authority whenever you have questions about these kind of things. Yes there was a ban, but it was lifted under the same level of authority. The reasons for why it was banned were laid to rest over that 20 year period.
I sometimes think that traditionalist means “If I didn’t grow up with it in the 1950’s and 60’s then it’s wrong.” What is the point of having a Church if change is always rejected and even villified?
Throughout her diary, many supposed heresies can be dismissed as mere figures of speech distorted by translation. However throughout Sr. Faustina's diary, the subversion for her in the place of the Holy Mother isn't simply in whether the chaplet or rosary is prayed, but in statements such as "I see your love, so pure and true that I give you **first place among the virgins**. You are the honor and glory of My Passion". If in any personal revelation Jesus speaks to one more highly than his own mother, perhaps that revelation should be reconsidered and scrutinized against other Catholic teaching and scripture. The affirmations Jesus states that Sr. Lucia's name will be venerated not only in heaven but most especially on this earth make a case for the potential demonic deception; would a truly humble saint desire as much as she did to be recognized as a saint on this earth? + "I desire that this mercy flow out upon the whole world **through your heart...** " reveals another subversion for the heart of the Holy Mother and Sr. Lucia in her place.
I'm skeptical of the devotion but hearing about the possibility that my family could be saved through the divine mercy is what brought me into Catholicism. It doesn't hinge on me REMAINING Catholic as I'm starting to take a more grim tint on it, thanks to the unfortunately sound writings of the majority of saints who took a public stand on the matter, but it got me in. I think it might be helpful, it might be harmful, but I don't know if it's true. The tabernacle stuff, the stuff you pointed out, the promises... I don't know what to think of it.
I read the Diary over and over. There is no place where Faustina is given a higher place of honor than our Lady. That is an interpretation only and personal perspective of a reader ONLY. Beware those that put words in Our Lord's mouth.
Yeeaaah, considering the sun had danced and literal Wars were predicted, whether we believe that the original Sister was assassinated and replaced by a communist or it was actually her. I do feel like Polish communist subversion could still be prevalent to this day and it is wickedly scary.
I was not devoted not even trust the devotion until literally I was in full dispair from health issues and in my vision I saw this blue and red lights of beams and then an image of the Divine Mercy but not the one you know but the original one and then in gold letters "In Jesus, I trust", and I heard Ya! (in Spanish means now) With a loving masculine voice. instantly all my horrible pain and hemorraghes that I endure for months instantly when away. My parrish also had not only but 2 huge miracles he ateibutes to the Divine Mercy. In which he almost loses his life by gun shots after he has assaulted.
Why did the devil want us to remember our Lord’s passion? The very same thing that defeated him AND saved us. Not alone, asking the Lord for mercy and helping us to trust Jesus. You can pray both, the rosary and the Divine Mercy Chaplet and you morning offering, and your thanksgiving and your Angelus and your night offering.
I'm living in Poland. Just some most 'traditional' try to show divine mercy as demonic but I think it is because for some people ALL things accepted after 1960s are wrong. For rest of us (also traditional) it's a blessing. We can pray the chaplet every day in most of bigger churches and many radio stations. It keeps us as a church even during such bad, wrong events that we can find in Poland.
Jesus can decide if he chooses to appear with wounds or not. Just like Our Lady, she chooses to appear in a way she wants to be revealed to people, that is she is shown to have different nationality features with her apparitions such as Akita compared to Fatima.
You can see wound in the hands of the larger images of the painting. The original is quite big and it was darkened by dirt and soot where it was hanging away from notice of the invaders during the war. It has been cleaned and the restored image is way clearer than people who’ve only seen the “dirty” version realize.
My mom passed away in September of last year. I had a “divine” experience in which I was literally moved by God himself on what to do before her passing. My heart began to palpitate, my hands were shaking and I heard a powerful voice in my heart “divine mercy”. I immediately began to pray the Chaplet of the Divine Mercy; the small ICU room was filled with a smell of incense and roses combined. My mom passed peacefully shortly after we finished with the prayer. Those that are against this prayer need to pray for discernment.
Yep it happened also during my grandmother's deathbed. Without scents though
I learned today that Jesus told St Faustina to pray the Chaplet when a person is dying.
I had a similar experience when my father passed away 18 months ago.
I use to help my dad to bed every night when he was dying of cancer. This one night he was breathing heavily, and couldn't open his eyes, so I held his hand and prayed the Divine mercy chaplet, and the holy Rosary. I managed to summons all our family to pray around him, as we finished the chaplet, he passed peacefully.
The divine mercy is real, we are so fortunate to be in the eara of this massive plan of salvation for humanity. Take it with open arms, and God will welcome you with open arms in heaven.
Same. I prayed divine mercy chaplet while my dad was dying and I felt the heaviness really be lifted from my entire body. I felt such a sense of peace, like my body was floating and I felt no surer sense of relief of God's presence
Thanks for sharing your beautiful testimony Maria. God bless you. ❤
Two yrs ago,an anti Catholic Pastor burned the image of Divine Mercy as he considered it as idolatry as usual. Then, he was stricken with Cancer. His MDs told him he had few months to live. He eventually became bedridden . One night he asked God to extend his life . Then, the image of Divine Mercy appeared to him with His rays penetrating his entire body like electric shock .He felt better and even walked to the bathroom that night which hadnt done in months .He was cured. He started sobbing when he realized that the image he burned was also the image which cured him . He converted to Catholicism . Saw his video testimony here in YT about 2 yrs ago.
I don't believe it. The Catholic Catechism forbids the worshipful veneration of images as they were the real thing
I don't believe it. The Catholic Catechism forbids the worshipful veneration of images as if they were the real thing
I don't believe it. The Catholic Catechism forbids the worshipful veneration of images as if they were the real thing
I don't believe it. The Catholic Catechism forbids the worshipful veneration of images as if they were the real thing
@@truthhurtsalways4u Can you provide a link to that UA-cam video? Thanks.
The Lord of Divine Mercy helped lead me to Catholicism 😊
I'm delighted to hear that you've seen truth in it but it's mixed with lies. Once you are well versed in apologetics, sound teachings I hope you will find heresies in the diary and the chaplet. I'm Polish, researched this subject, prayed over it and I'm asking you to do the same, to follow the truth. I contacted sisters in Lagiewniki, Cracow, Poland, and like many researchers was denied access to a copy of original manuscript of 'Diary'.
@RG-iw7py Let's see.
Jesus warned of a potential chastisement like the old testament God does several times but would rather you trust in his mercy.
Which is consistent to how God acts and behaves throughout the old and new testament unless you want to start saying the old testament is straight up satanic.
Nah you tripping.
@@RG-iw7py"heresies"
I am sure a schismatic doesn't have authority to determine what's heretical and not.
@@RG-iw7py JP2 was polish and true catholic Pope and if it was good for him is good for me. Maybe St Faustina wrote end of time prophecies.
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Im an eastern orthodox but im devoted to the divine mercy chaplet. I read the diary of saint Faustina when i was in deep sorrow and it made me closer to Lord Jesus. Let me tell you an interesting story I had with this chaplet. After I finished the diary, I prayed to God to ask Him if I should pray this chaplet or not, because as an eastern orthodox lay person I wasnt used to the wording of the prayer of offering Jesus up. I asked God if I should pray it or not, or just keep meditating on the diary which gave me boundless widsom. I asked God for a sign. I told God, If you want me to pray this chaplet, make me see the Divine Mercy image during my journey in another country I was taking at that time. If I saw it, I knew that God gave his OK. If I didnt, it meant God didnt want me to pray it. At one point abroad we enter a religious store to buy some religious books in english. The first moment we enter the store, my not very religious aunt calls me over saying: look at this cute statue! And hands me a little statue of Jesus. It was a Divine Mercy Jesus statue. God answered the challange and wanted to make it sure that it was clear, by literally handing me thru a person this blessing to pray it.
Hope you enjoy this story and gives you strenght to pray the chaplet.
I love both eastern orthodox and catholic faiths. Both are fountains of wisdom! Take care all!
Please read about my miracle above
Did you buy the statue?
Jesus, as described in the diary, told Sister Faustina that the Devotion to Divine Mercy would initially be suppressed before being accepted and promulgated by the Church. So, the fact that it was suppressed following that prophecy lends weight to the validity of the apparitions.
We, as Catholics, are not required to believe in what is revealed in private revelations, so disbelieve if that's what you think is the right thing to do. For me, the Divine Mercy Devotion has been a source of consolation and great graces. I'll continue to give this Devotion great attention.
Logically with our minds it makes sense why pharisees such as Caiphas and roman soldier and thief on the cross were past tense disbelievers mockers and doubters because if i were existing then i wouldnt have believed him! Until of course i crucified him on the ❌🚫 cross! Me being in the position of Christs enemys Caiphas,Longinus,Thief on cross. Eventually believed christ. I believe the possibly true tale of Longinus. And definitely thief. But caiphas never repented and felt remorse. He was simply distraught and perhaps regret but that's not saying SORRY I SINNED LORD GOD to christ so he doesnt count as a true repentance. Only longinus and thief do. And so Christ accepted them all these two sinners into heaven. If makes sense that we should doubt faustina until we read it ourselves and convinced by God the fathers Great Works unseen by feeble minded feasible humans! God bless amen!
For me too!
@@IsraelCountryCube I also wonder where I would have stood as a Jew or Roman during the time of Christ. It's a daunting question, and, despite all the troubles of this present time, it makes me happy that I grew up in an era when the theology of who Jesus was and is has become very clear.
Amen I will disbelieve in Satan’s trick including fake picture (Mt 24: 24)
I pray the rosary and chaplet of Divine mercy every day.
Same 🙂
Mee too, actually :one led to the other
Exactly! Even the one hour with Divine Mercy gives room for both
Me Tooooooo❤
@@christianedion5517 me too, it doesn’t take that much longer.
I get sick of people who have greater belief in the existence and power of demons than in the existence and power of Jesus, God, the Holy Spirit, the saints and angels.
Amen.
Demons only have the power God grants them. They are creatures and in no way equals.
Truth. The power God granted them when they were free. And once left God. They become discontinued from infinite power and reflection of God Father ultimate power. Obviously any demon could and would Physically mortally wound us if were not caring of our pride and God will allow them to excersize their power on humans who act stupidly.@@unacceptablesisterpeter3431
Christ is King
Agreed
💯 Well said! Thank you for putting in words what I was thinking. When people get so hostile towards the idea of Jesus with the Holy Spirit working through His angels and saints, it's as if they're limiting what God truly does.
Fr. Chris Alar has ALL the explanations in the Divine Mercy through his weekly Saturday talk, “Explaining the Faith”.
I like him a lot. ❤
I have watched a lot of his videos and enjoy them very much!
@@drjanitor3747 You are a heretic. 🤡
@@drjanitor3747 You sound as a heretic
He’s the one that really got me to understand and love the Divine Mercy devotion. I quickly got a copy of his book explaining Divine Mercy and recommend it to anyone.
I especially love his story about his parents re-igniting their faith, and his mom describing praying the Rosary as “shooting bullets against Satan” and likening the Rosary to “a machine gun” 😂😂 probably one of my favorite quotes and mental images ever.
At Fatima, the Virgin Mary stressed also the importance of devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. She requested that devotion to Her Immaculate Heart be placed side by side with devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
Sacred Heart of Jesus, I trust in you. (Fatima) Jesus I trust in You. (Faustina)
@@peaceandlove544 Faustina & Sopocko end message
1) Subvert the rosary (millions pray dm chaplet instead)
2) Venerate fake image (Mt 24: 24)
I pray both, as I'm sure many others do; and my favorite litany is the Sacred Heart of Jesus. I don't think there's a plot to replace the rosary, I think it's personal choice/preference, or there are some people pray the DM because it's quicker.
@@whoputyouontheplanet3345 You literally summed up millions replacing cheap masonic Chaplet for rosary
@@whoputyouontheplanet3345 …personal choice…quicker…
Multiple times, in my dreams, I heard myself praying the Divine Mercy prayer "Jesus, I trust in You" (when faced with dire circumstances: tornado, car going backwards over a cliff). In another dream, I saw myself standing on a very narrow straight, lit path (as wide as my shoulders). To the left and right side of me, were walls of utter thick black darkness. In front of me, but at a distance from me, I saw Jesus standing as He appears in the Divine Mercy picture. His eyes were fixed on mine, and mine on His. As I walked toward Him, neither looking to the left, nor to the right, but with my eyes fixed on Jesus eyes, I repeatedly prayed out loud "Jesus, I trust in You!" As I approached Him, maybe three feet away, Jesus extended His arms (as in a cross formation) and when I stood right in front of Him, He wrapped His arms around me, embracing me. The Divine Mercy prayers, devotion/novena are most definitely revealed by Lord Jesus Himself. These prayers are saving souls from eternal damnation. Believe and pray them! You won't regret it.
Thanks for sharing. ❤
I dont think nor feel , and i know lack the intuition my soul is being saved. Are these prayers really useful? I can judge them because they havent been caught really doing much of anything while i pray them and after. I have mabey more than 5 but i dont pray them at all. I have 30+ religious material worth of hours of prayer that i couldn't finish in one year. But im in doubt. Im sorry Jesus just please if i pray this prayer clean my from my stupid chocies and disgusting desire to lust!!!!
What interesting is, the Novena of DM have the intentions of Christ Himself instead of our own intentions like other traditional novenas.
@@IsraelCountryCubemany great figures of the faith have experience doubt and bleak times. You arent alone. Keep praying, even when you dont feel like it, even when you feel it is doing no good. This period will pass. I'll pray for you, ok?
What a beautiful dream ❤
"Lord Jesus, please help me to understand truth and to avoid error and heresy."
I am so confused as to why we even have this "conversation"
It’s because there are those who actually think it’s a demonic devotion. Have heard rumblings in my parish when we started reading about divine mercy.
Because Faustina claims she's more united to Christ than His mother (Who shares DNA)
"Now, I know that it is not for the graces or gifts that you love Me, but because My Will is dearer to you than life. That is why I am uniting Myself with you so intimately as with no other creature."
@@GP-dp4mr Hmmmm. That IS quite weird. But as Jimmy says, that could be due to a translation issue. The fact that Pope John Paul II believed in the Divine Mercy as much as he did makes me inclined to accept it, too.
@thekingchrissygwho exactly is attempting to boost their ego?
It's because people believe what they want to believe. That's why.
I have received great consolation from the Divine Mercy devotion and just saying the 3 o’clock prayer is something that helps me reflect on my sins and God’s Mercy. I also offer it up for the sick, suffering and dying.
The other argument I’ve heard is “it preaches mercy without repentance” which is so laughable as to be silly, it commands confession which requires repentance, the only thing it preaches is to not fear repentance
Yeah I have no clue where they get this "no repentance" stuff. I always think of it as the reminder to keep perseverance in repentance and personal reform because Christ will always forgive when I fall and repent. There's always hope, which is one of the Big 3.
Isn't it a good thing we Catholics have the Magisterium to tell us what to believe?! Holy Mother Church says St Faustina is a canonized saint. Holy Mother Church established Divine Mercy Sunday. If we don't want to say the chaplet we don't have to, but let's not discourage others. Or fight. Or demonize. Let's spend our time time getting closer to Jesus, Mary, Joseph and all the saints and angels and let Holy Mother Church tell us if something is to be observed or avoided. Take the burden off your shoulders:)
The Church did suppress the devotion and St. Faustina’s writings for a time. Like the early Christians, though, God kept it from dying out and the DM order exploded from being persecuted down to 1 priest to a worldwide devotional practice with the Marians seeing new vocations and groups.
After such a stringent process by Church authorities and St. Pope John Paul II not falling for satan’s trick (a group of anti-DM in the Vatican slipped a document to permanently ban the practice behind a huge stack of documents for him to sign, but that day he decided to start from the back and immediately made them go back and re-evaluate everything), anyone who claims the Divine Mercy as ‘satanic’ or ‘of the devil’ is considered foolish in my eyes.
Bc someone is a "canonized saint" doesn't mean everything they ever said was good & true and must be believed.
St Christopher was a saint and then he was deleted bc no evidence of ever being real
I'd rather carry my cross with Jesus. That's the fruits of the gospels.
Sr Faustina was canonized by Pope JPII. But in one of her diary entries claims she saw demons tormenting souls in Purgatory. Contradicting the St Augustine who said that souls in Purgatory have already defeated the demonic and are saved therefore demons in Purgatory cannot be. This & other blunders appear there but JPII wanted her sainted by all means
I'd rather help others carry theirs gracefully
"A Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" the fruits of divine mercy speak for themselves. Fr. Chris Alar and many of the Marians who believe and follow Divine Mercy are bringing a lot of people to the Church, if this were satanic, it would be pushing people away.
@@drjanitor3747 If you believe there are two forms of Catholicism, you need to take that to confession as a mortal sin. As a practising Catholic, you are forbidden form dividing the body of Christ, regardless of your preferred form of liturgy.
Your a lefevrist aren’t you.@@drjanitor3747
There is no Vatican 2 sect. The Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires supervised at the time by the now Pope Francis, and compared by blood test to an 8th century Eucharistic Miracle, conclusively proved Vatican 2 did not do away with the sacraments nor could it.
Moreover God chose Buenos Aires to defend his future Pope Francis.
Go to confession.
@@drjanitor3747There have been countless schisms and splits since the onset of the Catholic Church, for all sorts of reasons and excuses, many claiming that they are the original or the true one. You are not special. You want to think you are by “being against the establishment” or some other idiocy, you’re just another prideful prick who thinks they know better than Christ.
@@drjanitor3747The documents from Vatican 2 were not heretical. Everybody signed them including archbishop Lefebvre. Pope Benedict said the documents have to be interpreted in light of tradition. There is no break or discontinuity in the Catholic Church. Pope Francis is the Pope.
It seems like a lot of Catholics have scrupulosity/ocd. I reverted 3 yrs ago and but had moral ocd my entire adult life. I have to be careful of the content I watch so it doesn’t make me obsess over whether I am doing Catholicism “right”.
I agree. Most of the people at the Newman Center at my college do.
I'm from Krakow. The first version of the image is not the best one - the one painted during St. Faustina's lifetime. When she saw it, she cried saying it was nothing like what she saw in her visions, and indeed there are no visible wounds on Christ's hands and feet in that version.
But it was Adolf Hyla's version, created after St Faustina's death, that young Karol Wojtyla (St John Paul II) prayed in front of, even before he had taken religious orders.
I never knew that, I did thought it was odd that there were two versions but actually assumed the first one should be the best 😅
@@jonatikaWwe I actually wrote a blog post on blogger that describes the history of the Divine Mercy Image, and why that second version by Adolf Hyla plays a special role there.
krakowski-ruch-katolikow.blogspot.com/2023/07/three-generations-of-artists-from.html
@@scottritz7520 My point is rather to do with the involvement of St John Paul II in the institution of the Divine Mercy devotion. And the role Hyla's version played in his life, as if it were placed in his biography by Providence.
The artwork I see associated with the images cringy it actually repels me from reading more about it. And Lord knows I need Mercy but ugh, I hate it!
@@cmcc9589 Perhaps you're partly right! In her diary, St Faustina wrote that when she saw the original first version, she was so dissapointed with it she wept a good deal (Diary 313).
However, it was the second version that sparked John Paul II's interest in the Divine Mercy devotion. The author's name was Adolf Hyla, and he painted it soon after Faustina's death.
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Matthew 12:7 "I desire mercy, not sacrifice"
Matthew 9:13 "I desire mercy, not sacrifice"
Hosea 6:6 "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice"
I think the biggest problem with St Faustina’s diary and the Divine Mercy devotion in the eyes of some Traditionalists is that it conflicts with their belief - which is often based on earlier private revelations- that the vast majority of people are going to hell. To them, Jesus seems too merciful in St. Fausina’s visions to be true
Agree. They don't believe God is true merciful even though St Theresa said that one of the biggest issues with Catholics is that we don't believe enough in our Lord's Mercy.
In describing the vision of hell at Fatima, Lucia said souls were falling into the flames like snowflakes.
God's mercy is always balanced by his divine justice. They are so connected that if we pray for justice He will grant mercy.
@@peaceandlove544 I think St. Theresa was saying that we don't even deserve to be alive for another second because of our sins yet God sustains us and gives us chance after chance to change. Even to the last seconds of our life He gives us the opportunity to make an act of true contrition and be saved; He is indeed a God of unfathomable mercy. Yet many many souls don't appreciate this gift and refuse to convert; that's when God shows his justice.
there is no contradiction between the Divine Mercy and this
Good grief! Of all the ways to discourage and cause people to toss hope and faith into oblivion. Now, the Divine Mercy is wrong?!?! Satan IS at work. Catholics come together, our prayers are what’s left to save our children and grandchildren. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us all.
yeah not going to lie now i’m kind of scared to pray it 🙁
@@laurenlooolllDon’t be, it’s a beautiful prayer and the Lord gives many graces to those who pray it.
And we can't see it! We are all fighting with each other instead of loving each other, and we are calling all God's interventions evil. All going according to Satan's plan, people. Division and rejection of the means to save us.
Oh Precious Blood of Jesus Christ, save us and the whole world!
Certain "traditionalists" sound more like Protestants than Catholics. How's that for a sign?
Really?? Do you accept Faustina is more united to Christ than the Mother of God herself?
"Now, I know that it is not for the graces or gifts that you love Me, but because My Will is dearer to you than life. That is why I am uniting Myself with you so intimately as with no other creature."
@@GP-dp4mr I love reciting the Divine Mercy chaplet, and I have found it quite powerful in my own testimony, but in terms of that quote, I suppose it could be said Mary is no longer a creature on Earth by the time of Sister Faustina's writings; however, I have seen someone else write this, and it does concern me. Is there a proper answer someone can provide to rebut this? Is it a translation issue?
@@DelioJez creature can mean those in heaven or on earth including angels, this is very troubling imo
Regarding the devotion itself, I struggle to reconcile this and the sacred heart devotion?
@@GP-dp4mr Yes, it can mean that, though the context of the writing, like prior and after that paragraph, may be relevant to identify it as earthly creature, but I don’t know what that context is as I don’t have it in front of me.
What do you mean you struggle to reconcile it with the Sacred Heart Devotion? Thanks
Yeah, sspx types.
I pray both every day. Coming to the end of the Divine Mercy Novena at the moment.
Same here. ❤
Same!!! Praying a different version with my family every night…and pray the rosary every night before bed and at other times during the day when I have the time to on certain days, so there goes the whole “divine mercy replaces the rosary” argument. Have a blessed Divine Mercy Sunday!
"Eternal Father, I offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your Dearly Beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, for the atonement for our sins and those of the whole world" - literally every priest on earth celebrating the Holy Mass.
Literally no priest ever believed Faustina was more united to Christ than Mary yet here we are......
"Now, I know that it is not for the graces or gifts that you love Me, but because My Will is dearer to you than life. That is why I am uniting Myself with you so intimately as with no other creature."
@@GP-dp4mr She is saying that she united herself to Christ more than to any creature, not that Christ is united to her the most of all creatures. So your claim is wrong.
"literally every priest on earth celebrating the Holy Mass."
Then why are you praying as a mantra the prayer that is only proper to a sacerdotal priest? Does this not confuse and mix together two different things?
1) The Holy Eucharist IS the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus the Son of God offered for atonement/propitiation of sins - not the Divine Mercy Chaplet, which is just a devotional prayer (sacramental). The Divine Mercy Chaplet is not the actual Blessed Sacrament (the Holy Eucharist).
2) Lay people are not priests and therefore cannot offer the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ to the Father - only an ordained sacerdotal priest can do that because he shares in the single High Priesthood of Jesus Christ - Who it is that offers Himself to the Father on our behalf through the action/words of one of his human priests at the Words of Consecration. Lay people can only offer the sacrifice in union with the priest, not without him. So again, why would one pray a repetitious prayer of offering - "I offer" - as if they were themselves a sacerdotal priest?
At the least end of the spectrum, this confuses people about their role and that of the priest and conflates these two things which is very much a problem in the Novus Ordo world. Jimmy's answers are weak - he seems desperate to defend the sunk ship of a post-Vatican 2 wreck - he has a lot invested in that ship - which in truth is NOT the bark of Peter.
At Fatima, the angel made the children pray an even more explicit version of the priestly sacrifice prayer look it up. I pray it very often. You're uneducated about the devotional practices of reparation of sins, you should stop speaking in pride and submit to the Church.
@@ElijahSchneider-x5e It doesn't confuse it at all. Firstly, you're assuming that these words are sacred such that it is "only proper to a sacerdotal priest". If such is the case, the devotion wouldn't allow for it. Do you really think the Pope (and the magisterium) would promulgate something "only proper to priests", something obviously not in the See's interest? Finally, of all the objections to the DM noted, this prayer's involvement is NOT one of them, at best it's a fringe theory that seemingly no one, lay or religious, takes seriously.
Divine Mercy chaplet takes less than 10 minutes to pray. If someone is telling me that they don’t have enough time to pray a rosary and a divine mercy chaplet in the same day, they’re telling me that they literally don’t even have one hour of free time. If someone doesn’t have even one hour of free time, they have no business scrolling on the Internet.
I have been saying one traditional rosary (all three mysteries) and lately other rosaries. This is why I don' t have time.
@@steveisaak4320 it’s all private revelation, be at peace, sibling in Christ.
@@MikePasqqsaPekiM private revelation?
Excellent point!! 😅🇨🇦🙏
@steveisaak4320 watch the video before commenting lol
Something tells me that if St. Faustina had described seeing an vengeful Jesus who started telling her about stern justice and hellfire, non of the radtrads would have a problem with it. You wouldn't hear anything about holes in hands.
Spot on. Sometimes I do not know if they are either so sure of their salvation and anyone below their standards should rot in Hell, or they really love to fear. Divine Mercy is absolute gift and Grace. Having few minutes? Going like this...Dear Lord there is a dying person somewhere, right now, someone who is not prayed for. Someone who is in great danger of going to Hell. If it is according to your will please take this prayer as it is prayed for that soul according to your choice. This idea came to me from above, I believe. I did not know for which the next pray should be offered and the mentioned appeared in my mind. :)
@@daxdax4528 That's so lovely thank you! :)
I'm a traditional Catholic. I pray the divine mercy. There are wounds in his hands and feet.
5:15 Jokes on them. I pray the Rosary and then the Chaplet.
The Rosary as Mary asked for it at Fatima and as it was prayed for most of the history of Catholicism had 15 decades, not 5. Unless you did mean 15, in which case, very well.
The only way it should be
Edited
I wouldn't think that Satan would encourage people to go to confession!
I think you meant to say "I wouldn't think that Satan would encourage people to go to confession"... right?
@youareblessedyouareloved928 😀 Thank you, that's exactly what I meant. I talk text on my phone, and it it's kind of like a child, in one ear and out the other, and then makes its own decisions🤣
I think Chaplet fine AFTER Rosary
Isn’t there a suggestion (psychologically) maybe do whatever you want, all wiped clean DM Sunday
I used to be Orthodox, I find this a really dumb argument. Almost none of the early icons of the church depicted him with holes in his hands. I'm a traditional Catholic as well, but trads go way too far with petty things all the time 😆 many of them are never happy either with anything Catholic lol
It’s a very dumb argument, it comes from lefevrists. St. Faustian was vindicated in 1976, Lefevre broke off from the Church in 1975, hence his followers still believe the erroneous status quo of pre-1976 which is a bad translation of her diary. Furthermore Divine Mercy Sunday is officially promulgated by the church as of 2000! (Which the children of lefevre reject due to their schism)
Well as a traditional Catholic, many Catholics going way over the top with the private revelation stuff, sometimes putting it above scripture and traditional teaching.
I thought orthodox taught against mental imaginations during prayer?
@@TA-yw7ceCorrect.
@@TA-yw7ce clarify what you mean by mental imagination
St. Faustina is canonized so the Church has spoken
I did the divine mercy chaplet during lent of 2023 and I was attacked so hard after that, every good person had medical or personal crisis in their lives that separated us and I’d just been pulled away from my old bad friends, it was an extremely hard time after saying that Chaplet through, I think it’s powerful, I don’t think it’s demonic
Satan hates the prayer because it focuses on God's victory.
another thing about the divine mercy and the rosary, saint faustina is in the Congregation of the Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy which has secial devotion to the most holy rosary and so she never stopped praying the rosary infact she was required to pray many a day
She only mentions Rosary once in her Diary?
@@scootahscoot9389and she still prays it for her order
@@josuesilva9409
Paragraph 476 Substitute for rosary - as millions do now
Nigerian visionary Chaplet of Precious Blood 🩸 no 700 page Diary 📔 yet very adamant Pray rosary first 🙏
I’m so glad that my daughter had already heard this because today a dear friend told me she had heard from a few sources that Divine Mercy was not true! She says it every day! I was sad that someone was undermining her faith. I told her it was the work of Satan to try and chip away at people’s faith in Jesus and his divine mercy. Then my daughter shared this and now I have a great source to help her see the truth. Thanks gentlemen! God Bless!
Today is the Devine Mercy day second Sunday of Easter may our Lord have mercy on all of us.
ST. TERESA OF AVILA: “Jesus has no body on earth but yours. No hands, no feet on earth, but yours. Yours are the eyes through which His compassion looks out on the world. Yours are the feet with which He is to go about doing good, and Yours are the hands with which Jesus blesses the world now.”
Appreciate the discussion. May we all have mercy on each other. Discussions like this are important for healing.
It's a prayer to God the Father for mercy that focuses on Christ's redemptive suffering. Does that sound like the kind of thing demons would come up with?
Well said
So we are told to focus on Agony, Scourging, Thorns, Carrying Cross & Crucifixion each decade of Chaplet?
Jesus name said middle of every Hail Mary
I’d only pray it AFTER Rosary
@@scootahscoot9389 Nice, I usually say the Divine Mercy Chaplet after my rosary.
@@jimmydarm I fell into the trap of praying instead of Rosary
Akin: Mary didn’t say only rosary on rosary
Well she didn’t say replace rosary, that’s for sure
My mom stayed at my house and flipped out on me because I had that picture on the wall. she started screaming that it was full of demons and that’s not her Jesus and she made me take it down while she stayed at my house. She is LDS and a few days later called me a satanist for being Catholic. please pray for her.
Aren't LDS heretics
@@Maicon-b1b I thought that too but I learned that they aren’t considered heretics but a completely new religion
they're not even Christian
@@knghtcmdr you try telling them that 😂
"My mercy does not want this. But Justice demands it."
Thanks for this! I have read full fledged Catholics saying that this is satanic and I couldn’t find much on it. Disgusting people. Wait until people praying the Divine Mercy to free them from purgatory and only will they know how precious it is.
Amazing how they don’t accept HIS Divine Mercy!
😂😂😂😂 😮
Share with them my miracle story
The Blessed Mother also came to St Faustina and never once discouraged anyone from saying the Chaplet. Her message was consistent with her messages at Fatima and everywhere else, "pray ptay pray to my Son!!"
This was an odd response. Of course Jesus post resurrection has wounds in his hands……I have no opinion on the authenticity of the Devine Mercy controversy but I would suggest apparitions of the risen Lord would have wounds.
Not necessarily but still He had the biggest wound of His sacred heart with the red and blue lights of water and blood coming out
agreed
The point of His image is the focus on His Merciful heart - not the sacrificial wounds of His crucifixion. 🙏🕊
@@ocay2854I delayed putting up a crucifix for a long time but had DM pic up….Something is wrong with that
Crucifix represents our salvation
Paul: I preach Christ crucified
Yes, that bothered me too. Many saints were attacked by the devil, who would sometimes appear as Jesus himself. St. Teresa of Avila said her litmus test was to see if Jesus had the wounds or not, because when he didn't, it would be the devil trying to deceive her. So I did not appreciate Jimmy's glib response.
Less people were praying the rosary before Divine Mercy was approved. Many people ( older) would tell me they had to pray the rosary everyday growing up, and they would never pray it again. 😮 For those I know praying the divine Mercy, they, we always pray the rosary first.
As far as His wounds being missing, maybe Jesus wants us to focus on the wounds of His Heart.
I love this devotion and this is the reminder I needed to keep praying it.
The Divine Mercy chaplet takes like maybe less than 10 minutes to pray. Or maybe 10 minutes at most. I pray both it and the rosary. They're also several other chaplets available in the church. For example the chaplet of Saint Michael the archangel. You can pray both You can pray all
Exactly. It is like saying you can only admire, or have devotion to, one saint, or you can only work on one virtue at a time, or obey only one Commandment . . . because, there are only so many hours in a day! Nonsense.
Ridiculous and sinful to suggest such a thing. Many miracles have been attributed to the image alone, it’s a powerful and miraculous image which should have utmost respect
There's a Divine Mercy shrine in Newark NJ in Saint Francis I Go to on Fridays..it means the world to me and helps me spiritually..
God bless you
Why are people so determined to create an either/or dichotomy? Ours is a both/and Faith. You can pray BOTH the rosary AND the Divine Mercy Chaplet on rosary beads. Imagine that!
Saint Faustina provided me a miracle. I believe.
"Where does the Virgin Mary tell us we need to pray the Rosary?" Why Fatima? Why not in 1214 in her appearance to St. Dominic when she gave him the Rosary?"🤔 Fatima's acceptance (like the first private revelation of the Rosary to St. Dominic) is due to it not relying on private revelation - in both cases they are aligned with theology and public revelation. Divine Mercy is a private revelation like Akita, and when they've been given approval by the local Bishop and then Rome (which I understand has significant rigour) it should be considered as an adjunct but NOT core. Any "trad" would know that and wouldn't say that it advocates for the replacement of the Rosary. FYI Jimmy, the Rosary is not about Mary or for Mary... praying the Rosary is the contemplation of the Divine Mysteries....of Christ's life (so not sure what you meant by "did Mary ever say pray only my Rosary and don't show devotion to my son" 🤔) - I agree that we should not leap to condemning everything as demonic if we don't understand it... God will as he has done throughout the Old Testament communicate through private revelations - discernment is key. Acts are considered public revelation, but at the time for Paul for example when Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus it was a private revelation.
No way we found the clown who seems to question The Divine Mercy. You are getting a such a good thing which is basically infinite aka God's mercy and you are basically refusing it due to some baseless conspiracy.
If you are questioning the Divine Mercy (which I hope you aren't) I will just say this if it was demonic we would have had millions of people of who pray this prayer being possessed by demons which clearly isn't the case, otherwise we would have had reports of religious people using super human strength or screeching out like madmen.
@@denniselroy4517 You clearly misunderstood (or completely missed) my point. I was clearly stating why it being a private revelation should not call into question its authenticity after it has been given approval by the local Bishop and the Pope. How did you miss that?
Great comment; I was just at the Holy Rosary chapel in Bologna Italy last lent what an experience gorgeous Basilica of St Dominic. Yes I thought the Rosary was given to Blessed Allan who was from the south of France who brought it to St Dominic still researching this.
It is possible because the rosary was being used to defeat heresies by Dominic in the south of France first.
2:04 she saw and met Him. It wasn’t just a painting.
Secondly crucifictions were done through the wrists, you wouldn’t see them in His palms if it was really Him.
3rd, the face of The Lord in the ORIGINAL Divine Mercy painting is almost a direct match to the face on The Shroud of Turin
What I love about Catholicism is it's richness - there is room for many devotions and traditions. You can be to devoted the Sacred Heart, the Immaculate Heart, etc. and still have room for Divine Mercy. But yeah, I knew a super trad from the TFP (an organization I like devoted to Fatima and the Rosary) who had a problem with The Divine Mercy. This person also had a problem with Saint John Paul II. Holier than thou attitude.
I don’t think there’s a problem with Divine Mercy. I love the Divine Mercy Chaplet, and it’s very important to me.
One of the most powerful prayers we can say, especially for the dying.
Any person I've seen who has a strong DM devotion always talks about a Rosary devotion. They go hand in hand. They are not at odds.
Amen , both and , not either or.
The divine mercy is prayed to the Father.
And the Hail Mary says Jesus middle of every prayer
Rosary also says Oh Sacrament most holy…
What's wrong with praying both, the Holy Rosary and the Divine Mercy chaplet. It's not the case that we can only pray one of them. Pax.
Nothing at all. Just certain groups of people (mainly radical trads) trying to gate-keep the Church so she looks more like what they imagine her to have been before “modernism” took over.
Most of the Divine Mercy spreaders have no issue saying praying the Rosary is also great, as they understand the dual role of the Sacred and Immaculate hearts. I’m still praying for a big St. Joseph style of devotion, so we can have the Sacred, Immaculate, and Chaste hearts all together.
In the wise words of Fr. Chris Alar, the Rosary and the Divine Mercy Chaplet are complimentary. He said the Rosary was the Liturgy of the Word and the Divine Mercy Chaplet is Liturgy of the Eucharist
I only ever knew one priest who was seriously opposed to Divine Mercy. He was removed from the priesthood a few years later for abuse. Tells me all a need to know about which side of this debate is "satanic."
I’d be willing to bet he was a Lefevre sympathizer……
Just saying….
@ 5:04 I usually say the rosary before the DM chaplet, or immediately after it.
There is a Calvinistic streak to some of the more conservative traditional Catholics. Being told that God's Mercy is universal and even more deserved by the greatest sinners is a difficult thing to hear. Obviously, the Rosary and the Chaplet aren't mutually exclusive. But, consider when Our Lord was making these revelations, how much evil was going on in the world. Humanity had a greater need for the message of God's Mercy than ever before and still does. Is it demonic for anyone to try to deny God's Mercy to sinners? Would the people denying this be the same people resenting Jesus extending His Mercy to tax collectors and adulterers? We have to be careful not to judge and condemn others in our hearts. It may be difficult when we see people doing great evil, or when great evil is done to us, but God wants us to be humble and put these issues in His hands.
The divine mercy is true. I have prayed the divine mercy novena and I've had so many miracles. 🙏❤️
ICKSP Limerick preached the divine mercy message last week.😊 Not all Traddies are off their trolly.
I believe in the Divine Mercy but I have something that always sticks with me. As we pray the chaplet, to whom are we praying? God the Father? So when we say “ For the sake of His sorrowful passion ( referring to Jesus) have mercy on us and on the whole world. But I thought Jesus was to be the judge of the whole world. Hence, I’d rather say, “For the sake of YOUR sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.”
In Divine Mercy you are praying “Eternal Father. i offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of your beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ.” Just like in Catholic Mass all prayers are offered up to the Father through Christ
They are both the same
We can pray to both our Father and Christ
Pray to both
Didn’t know this was a thing - this is ridiculous! I’m not even sure if refuting people who think this way was worth airtime…! But fair play lads!
Some of us value these conversations and care about the salvation of ourselves and the people
Go watch the thousands of testimonies of people who go to hell and heaven
@@Maicon-b1b my dear friend in Christ, I too value these conversations! I just couldn’t believe that a Catholic could possibly think that the apparitions to St. Faustina about the mercy of Jesus could be of Satanic origin. Perhaps I may have sounded sarcastic - my bad!
Jesus mercy is so needed today!
Jimmy’s voice is a gift from God. Any audiobook that he records would go to the top of my reading list.
In addition to weird first answer, Akin says Mary never said only rosary on rosary
Well she certainly didn’t suggest replacing rosary
(I don’t recommend chaplet but only pray after rosary if so)
I do have some reservations about a few of the things Faustina claimed that Jesus said to her… but that aside, I do think the divine mercy is a lovely prayer.
Like what things?
She claimed that Jesus said he was uniting himself to her so intimately as with no other creature. She also claimed that Jesus told her she was purer that angels. Those types of claims are suspect to me because why would Jesus elevate her even above Mary? But they said in this video that there were translation errors so I’m hoping that’s all it is. I will have to look into that more.
@@Intrepid_InsomniacChrist didn't elevate her above our blessed mother
He just said she was purer than some angels which makes sense because angels have fallen before
I often have no idea what people are talking about and this is another example.
People in the Church online just like to make a name for themselves by undermining the authority of the Church.
I would say that the Divine Mercy devotion is perfectly valid precisely because it is Christocentric. This is how we test the spirits...they must confess that Christ is the Lord. This would include any apparition or private revelation.
Exactly what I was thinking
I love St Faustina and thank you so much Jesus for the Divine Mercy you share with her and with us.
Amen!!!
It’s blasphemy against the Holy Spirit to deny God’s Divine Mercy and accuse a good as evil.
I say the same thing about "End Times" stuff. I am alive today and will be gone in flash sometime in the future. If it happens in the "End Times", what is the difference? Live your best life this moment. Do not worry, do not be afraid. Jesus is closer to us than we are to our own thoughts.
Jesus doesn't say to live your best life dude
Jesus says to deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow him
@@Maicon-b1b Well, is that not your best life?
I pray both the rosary and the Divine Mercy
Man. This is getting painful. If it’s church approved accept it. Or leave. Or be quiet. You’re not God.
Should you be telling people to leave the Church?
I was a sinful, cold Catholic. Not even Mass on Sunday. Researching into prophecies, I ran into St Faustina's diary. It slowly brought me home. Now I'm a marian who attends TLM as regularly as my health allows me to. Laudetur Iesus Christus!
There is NOTHING in the Divine Mercy Prayer that would remotely be against GOD in any way !! This doubt is from Satan
The Divine Mercy Chaplet actually led me to start praying the rosary as the long and repetitive prayers are a bit hard for me to pray.
I'm right next the Divine Mercy Shrine in Vilnius as of this moment and I invite You, everyone to celebrate the week of Divine Mercy together!!!❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
There is a 24/7 adoration, 24/7 streaming online: youtube.com/@dievogailestingumosventove3457?si=g9MpnVWW5qpPa_jf
And this Sunday 04-07, this Divine Mercy Sunday there will be celebrated Mass in English at 5PM EEST🕊❤️🔥❤️🔥
My grandma has always prayed Rosary at the noon and Divine Mercy Chaplet at 3 pm.
So... how exactly is one competing against another? 🤔
My great-grandparents and grandparents always prayed the Rosary at 6:30PM, after supper was cleaned up. That's what time Father Hogan was on the local radio station leading the Rosary every night, 7 days a week.
Not sure if you know but St. Faustina was instructed to paint a picture of Jesus, that of which she eventually completed out of obedience.
Yep, and she had him paint it so much, trying to make it perfect that even Jesus had to basically tell her it's good enough 🤣
If detractors are wrong, they hurt souls in Purgatory and those in their hour of death if people are discouraged from praying Chaplets.
One prayer used in the Eastern Rites is the Divine Mercy prayer:
Lord Jesus Christ,have mercy on me, a sinner.
Gospel based. George Jetson simple. Engrained in their spiritually for centuries....
No questionable diary entries either. Sign me up.
And the Trisagion prayer too, which appears at the end of the chaplet. I'm Byzantine Catholic, and my pastor thinks it's possible that St. Faustina probably had some Ukrainian ancestry because of the very Eastern nature of the prayer in the Devine Mercy Chaplet.
@@hammerheadmsOr:
1. The Trisagion is part of the Good Friday Liturgy in the LR.
2. Poland is the crossroads between western and eastern Europe. It is possible she had some contact with an Eastern Rite in Communion.
All the Divine Mercy devotion shows is that The lord is not bound to the rules He sets and can make exceptions based on His own good pleasure, which is directly a TRUE CHURCH TEACHING.
Only God knows our hearts
@@peaceandlove544 Amen
Divine Mercy was rejected at first because of poor translation. When Pope JP read it in the Polish, his first language, he was able to see the translation errors and correct them. Pope JP, DM, and our troubled times were brought together in our time intentionally by God. The world is more embattled than ever before.
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Thank you!!!! Especially right before Divine Mercy Sunday.
It is a possibility that those devoted to saying the daily rosary also say the DM chaplet.
One important reason why the Faustina Divine Mercy devotion is not from heaven is that it over-emphasizes mercy at the expense of Divine justice. Diabolical forces are trying to replace Sacred Heart devotion with "Divine Mercy devotion". Another bad thing is that the "Divine Mercy" image of Jesus does not show the loving Heart of Jesus but hides It, and this contradicts what the Sacred Heart wanted, & that is for His Heart to be exposed publicly & adored by the faithful !!
You are a lefevrist aren’t you, stop rejecting the authority of the living magisterium and things will clear up for you. (I used to be a lefevrist also)
Very well said. Thank you & kudos for having a working compass in a sea full of rudderless boats. 💯 🎯❤👍 😊
(And I'm NOT a Lefevre-ist)
First of all, it's merely a depiction. Second, that is the "blood and water which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus" as seen on the Cross. Did not His most Sacred Heart pour out blood and water? This devotion, in fact, can complement devotion to His Most Sacred Heart.
I think we can get too caught up on things such as this. Is not something that encourages us to lean on His love and mercy a good thing? May God's love and blessings be upon you and your loved ones.
First of all a picture of a picture of a picture is *NOT Jesus.* Secondly, the blood water burst from His right side therefore symbolizing the new covenant and His church. The DM image shows the blood & water emerging from the center of the chest and that is *NOT* biblical. Thirdly, the Divine Mercy devotion *Demands confidence in an image beyond that allowed by the church*
"I demand the worship of My mercy thru the solemn celebration of the feast and thru the veneration of the image which is painted. *By means of this image I shall grant many graces to souls.* It is to be a reminder of the demands of My mercy bcz even the strongest faith is of no avail w/o works" (veneration of the image = works)(Diary 742)
Vs: Catechism of Trent:
"It is clear that there are two chief ways in which God’s majesty can be seriously outraged. The first way is by worshipping idols and images as God, or believing that they possess any divinity or virtue entitling them to our worship, by praying to, or reposing confidence in them, as the Gentiles did, who placed their hopes in idols, and whose idolatry the Scriptures frequently condemn."
So then the Catechism prohibits having confidence in the image which is demanded by the devotion
I always thought it was weird the Divine Mercy image IS the Sacred Heart of Jesus portrait ......only they blotted out His Sacred heart and put rays of light over it.. And the other thing I heard from a priest is that it is (the devils) intention to stop the Rosary which Our Lady told us to say. The divine mercy chaplet uses the Rosary... to say a different prayer... not the Rosary which Our Lady told us to say.
It's funny you use that argument to attack the private revelation of St. Faustina - so do you attack St. Gertrude also? Because her chaplet for the Holy Souls in purgatory is also prayed on the rosary beads
Or do you just have a particular hate for St. Faustina?
I use the Rosary beads to say the Jesus Prayer also. lol. They are beads used to keep track of the numbers of prayers, it isn’t magic, anyone can make a rosary.
you don’t even need a rosary, you can use your fingers.
lol you sound like a leftist, criticism of something bad means you must hate them! Must be an anti-faustinist right ?! Except the church does not require us to accept this flimsy private revelation
There is like 5 other chaplets you also use the rosary beads for. Chaplet of St. Michael, St. Gertrude, Holy Wounds Chaplet, etc. Do you think all of them are demonic too?
Most critics tend to largely be in online circles. I’ve never met anyone in real life that ever had a problem with the devotion. Ultimately you’ve just got to go to church authority whenever you have questions about these kind of things. Yes there was a ban, but it was lifted under the same level of authority. The reasons for why it was banned were laid to rest over that 20 year period.
You have never met a lefevrist, you are blessed sir! Carry on and be ready in case you actually do meet one in the future.
I sometimes think that traditionalist means “If I didn’t grow up with it in the 1950’s and 60’s then it’s wrong.” What is the point of having a Church if change is always rejected and even villified?
Throughout her diary, many supposed heresies can be dismissed as mere figures of speech distorted by translation. However throughout Sr. Faustina's diary, the subversion for her in the place of the Holy Mother isn't simply in whether the chaplet or rosary is prayed, but in statements such as "I see your love, so pure and true that I give you **first place among the virgins**. You are the honor and glory of My Passion". If in any personal revelation Jesus speaks to one more highly than his own mother, perhaps that revelation should be reconsidered and scrutinized against other Catholic teaching and scripture.
The affirmations Jesus states that Sr. Lucia's name will be venerated not only in heaven but most especially on this earth make a case for the potential demonic deception; would a truly humble saint desire as much as she did to be recognized as a saint on this earth? + "I desire that this mercy flow out upon the whole world **through your heart...** " reveals another subversion for the heart of the Holy Mother and Sr. Lucia in her place.
I'm skeptical of the devotion but hearing about the possibility that my family could be saved through the divine mercy is what brought me into Catholicism. It doesn't hinge on me REMAINING Catholic as I'm starting to take a more grim tint on it, thanks to the unfortunately sound writings of the majority of saints who took a public stand on the matter, but it got me in. I think it might be helpful, it might be harmful, but I don't know if it's true. The tabernacle stuff, the stuff you pointed out, the promises... I don't know what to think of it.
I read the Diary over and over. There is no place where Faustina is given a higher place of honor than our Lady. That is an interpretation only and personal perspective of a reader ONLY. Beware those that put words in Our Lord's mouth.
Excuse me but Fatima is a public apparition. Totally different from private
Yeeaaah, considering the sun had danced and literal Wars were predicted, whether we believe that the original Sister was assassinated and replaced by a communist or it was actually her. I do feel like Polish communist subversion could still be prevalent to this day and it is wickedly scary.
I was not devoted not even trust the devotion until literally I was in full dispair from health issues and in my vision I saw this blue and red lights of beams and then an image of the Divine Mercy but not the one you know but the original one and then in gold letters "In Jesus, I trust", and I heard Ya! (in Spanish means now) With a loving masculine voice. instantly all my horrible pain and hemorraghes that I endure for months instantly when away. My parrish also had not only but 2 huge miracles he ateibutes to the Divine Mercy. In which he almost loses his life by gun shots after he has assaulted.
Why did the devil want us to remember our Lord’s passion? The very same thing that defeated him AND saved us. Not alone, asking the Lord for mercy and helping us to trust Jesus.
You can pray both, the rosary and the Divine Mercy Chaplet and you morning offering, and your thanksgiving and your Angelus and your night offering.
I only have problems with some of the diary passages. ie.. a small Jesus flew off the alter. I just don’t believe that.
Flew off?
I think @mrsandmom5947 is referring to when the Eucharist flew off the altar into Faustina’s hands three times?
I'm living in Poland. Just some most 'traditional' try to show divine mercy as demonic but I think it is because for some people ALL things accepted after 1960s are wrong. For rest of us (also traditional) it's a blessing. We can pray the chaplet every day in most of bigger churches and many radio stations. It keeps us as a church even during such bad, wrong events that we can find in Poland.
Jesus can decide if he chooses to appear with wounds or not. Just like Our Lady, she chooses to appear in a way she wants to be revealed to people, that is she is shown to have different nationality features with her apparitions such as Akita compared to Fatima.
Exactly
If it can be used to drive out devils, the how could it be satanic.Mt12:30
You can see wound in the hands of the larger images of the painting. The original is quite big and it was darkened by dirt and soot where it was hanging away from notice of the invaders during the war. It has been cleaned and the restored image is way clearer than people who’ve only seen the “dirty” version realize.