@@lilsinga17That's completely different. U realize that bunch of people who work at big clubs and do analyzing are not coaches? U don't need to be a coach to spot a mistake, it's easy to be smart after the game. Coaches need to think before, during and after the game.
@@lilsinga17yeah because he is good at it, in the rare time we saw a proper coach like wenger and jose do punditry, they arent good as well. Everyone have their own strongsuit
From tv it looks like the players have space and time but when u go to a game you realise how different it is from tv i prefer tv better view no annying idiots no queeing and i cqn sit down and chill enjoying the game
He almost went unbeaten in the league with Barca only one loss in the league to win the league. He is not perfect but still he is great and underrated coach.
@@mightymoeish Michael Owen is one of the best English talents ever. That being said he’s football analysis is nowhere near that of successful managers.
Football is like chess with human pieces. The manager is the actual player. Managers are not viewed from this perspective enough. They are like generals. Some generals know their tactics, know how to tweak for an advantage. Some don't.
Not really, a lot of top managers are interested in man management and motivating their players. Sir Alex and ancelotti are two recent examples that are both probably top ten ever, and would rarely speak about tactics at all. Also recently Arne slot mentioned that people think he thinks about tactics all day, whereas in reality 99% of what he’s thinking about is how to motivate his players and get their energy up
@@conallfarquhar8069 Ancelotti built all his systems to suit the players at hand. He is one of the best tacticians in the game. He doesn't have to speak about it all day. Fergie managed at a time when 442 was the widespread formation, so without an eye for detail, I can see why you might think he didn't play chess with football, but there's a reason he had O'Sheas and Fletchers and Parks and Johnsens and Solskjaers around the place. He tweaked little subtle elements that clearly flew by your head, and assigned specific tasks and roles to players. He didn't do what he did with Aberdeen through motivation alone. He didn't win multiple UCLs without having some tactical nous. Of course a Zidane can take over a team full of world class players and motivate them to success. The elite players are built that way. Let's see Zidane at a Newcastle or Roma...
Ancelottis one of the best tacticians in the game, yet after the champions league final in 2022 he said he couldn’t tell you if Madrid were playing a 433 or 442??? I don’t think so mate, just saying something doesn’t make it true, you’re not Donald trump. Also I didn’t say they never spoke about tactics, just that it was rare. But going back to the point, you’ve just said zidane can motivate world class players to win multiple ucls, in other words you can be incredibly successful without tactics, which is the point I was making
@@conallfarquhar8069 My point was that motivation alone does not make one a great manager, despite success. Hence the Roma/Newcastle comment. Zidane did an amazing thing with Madrid, but I can't class him as a top manager as I do with Ancelotti, Fergie etc. I need to see what he can do with less, even just slightly less, resources before he makes that grade. Ancelotti knew the formation. He just brushes off that type of stuff flippantly, half out of modesty, and half because he's just a stoic guy.
But that wasn’t the point I was making. The initial comment likened managers to chess players or generals as they are very tactical, I was making the point that some are and some aren’t, so it isn’t a great comparison. I don’t know why you’re talking about how good the players are, that was never in the discussion. And you know this about ancelotti how? Because from all I’ve heard from former players of sir Alex and ancelotti, they all emphasise the man management and say they would hardly ever discuss tactics, you’re basing it off of…?
Valverde is also one of the best Spanish coaches of the past 15 years. Massively underrated because his stint at a decaying barcelona wasn't the best ("only" 2 leagues and a cup) but he's been successful and resourceful at almost every team he's been in.
Exactly, almost won the league unbeaten and if Pique, Busquets and Alba's legs weren't gone he probably could have got them a Champions League in 2019.
He shouldve started lower league coaching 1st.. going to la liga on his 1st managerial job was insane.. crushed his confidence altogether.. dont know maybe if he started slow, he'll still be managing now..
Tbf he was great tactical player, so this could work but it just didn't. Same thing, even more, with players like Pirlo, Lampard or Xavi. If you asked decade ago about them I would bet lot of money all of theylm will be great managers. And today I will broke asf 😂
Possibly. A few less eyes and a bit less pressure. Lower league coaching is light years ahead of where it was though I think, and I'd imagine he'd have found it equally as tough. Generally, you have to be obsessive about the tiniest details to be successful. You still get some who do well, by being good man managers and letting the players get on with it, but I think those type of managers are becoming far less common.
@@SpiderGYR Bro how dare you pUt Xavi in that list? Xavi won Laliga against a Prime Madrid that had just won Champions league & Laliga prior season, And got to 3 back to back semifinals of UCL. Xavi actually won trophies with Barca, lampard & pirlo were clueless
This ia the same Enersto valverde that some fans have called clueless, and has no tactics.. now we know he squats for a reason, and he is absolutely tactically acute. Thanks Gary for the honest breakdown.
I guess that's why tactical analysis and preparation during training needs to be spot on. Because it's not that easy to adapt during a 90 minute(or more) match when time and atmosphere and all that pressure is against You.
I respect him for this. He went from "I would never coach again if anyone scored 7 against my team" (as a pundit), to getting trashed 7:0 by Luis Enrique (as a Valencia coach) and getting ridiculed for years after, to "I was nowhere near that level" now.
I appreciate the honesty. Most good players dont make good coaches precisely because they see the game differently and their ability allows them to do things most cant do but when it comes to translating your instructions, seeing the game from a different vantage it can become a frustrating job
This makes the fact that rugby coaches sit in the gantrees very interesting and brings to mind a curiosity as to why football managers didnt follow suit (or have a rep up there passing on information)
Spot on! Managers for sure have this mental map of the pitch. Cause I have though the same as Gary. It's IMPOSSIBLE to make it out from the sideline. I had no problems ON the pitch though to be aware and stuff.. But off it.. I think many take coaching for granted. Esp the best ones
Nicely said!!! Valverde is still our coach and we won las night against Real Madrid with only Bask players😊 Yes,Nico and Iñaki were born in the Basque Country ❤🎉😍✌🏾
This is why i always wonder how Messi has a clear map on his head because he always makes the right decision 9/10 it's like he's watching on tv while he's on the pitch 🤯
Love Gary he always keeps it real! I remember getting some amazing seats at a game and I just could not follow positions or what anyone was doing it’s completely different pitch side.
I actually respect Gary that he doesn't make excuses about Valencia. He was chucked in at the deep end and stitched up by Peter Lim, but he holds himself responsible for the team being so poor.
His point about being able to see the game from the touch line is a huge thing because he is right you can see lines and patterns of play from an elevation but you literally just see legs from the grass😂
Richie Wellens at Orient has recently started watching games from upstairs and says he can’t understand why he wasn’t doing it years ago, it’ll be the norm soon
For me this is why it shouldn't be rushed. Be a coach first and get used to it. I remember sitting right at the front on the half way line at Stamford bridge and it was such a weird angle and experience just like he mentioned.
Tbh hes totally right, go to a local sunday league game and stand near the halfway line on the touchline, whenever the balls on the opposite side/near the corners you cant see anything
"That is what a good manager does - you study, think and discuss, and you come up with a model of playing" - Carlo Ancelotti "I just remember thinking, what's going on out there? Know what I mean?" - Gary Neville
The funny thing is most coaches, even the top, ones feel like this from time to time. Doubt and confusion is a natural part of leadership, but its important you always have a mindset of “how do i figure it out”. Thats why Pep and Carlo and them look so serious. They are just as confused at times but they gotta keep that poker face
I would think after playing for 20 or so years he would be able to identify different systems and positions from pitch level. I find this incredible that he would struggle to identify them as a coach on the sideline. When you think about how teams used to have actual dugouts where the bench was even below pitch level in some stadiums and coaches were able to see everything, I wonder how some people who experienced that would struggle more than others.
Usually the best managers are good students of the game. Of all the current top managers, I think only Zidane is not what I deem as a student of the game, as he is naturally gifted and depends more on technical ability than tactical prowess.
Not that the experience is comparable but, I have been coaching the U18 school team for the last 4 years. Seeing a game pitch side compared to the TV is genuinely night and day. It’s so hard!
some peoples dont understand how underrated valverde are. he took the shittiest barca squad from the decades to win la liga, its technically most of the squads are deadwoods, and messi ofc.
I find this kind of honesty quite relatable. Kudos to Gary! I hate it when players or journalists act like anyone could coach.
People just want to hear good things even when its mot true, they say otherwise but in reality being honest tends to hurt people in the end
Neville can’t coach but gets paid to criticize coaches 😂
@@lilsinga17 does he aye ?
@@lilsinga17That's completely different. U realize that bunch of people who work at big clubs and do analyzing are not coaches? U don't need to be a coach to spot a mistake, it's easy to be smart after the game. Coaches need to think before, during and after the game.
@@lilsinga17yeah because he is good at it, in the rare time we saw a proper coach like wenger and jose do punditry, they arent good as well. Everyone have their own strongsuit
I’ve always thought that about players. It’s easy thinking about space when you’re in tele mode.
Yea. With regards to players I used to think it was easier for taller players until Xavi and Iniesta came along
I personally prefer co-op
Vision is an underrated ability
@olisejay2316
Short players have always been the best
5'9 height. They never get to 6foot
Tele broadcast
Lol I appreciate the honesty
*honesty.
Same
@@okoman really ?
Just say thanks....you literally edited it.@@LubulaChikwekwe
I mean we have his record 😅
At least he’s bloody honest about it! Made him realise the levels!
The fact he said he can’t follow a game when he’s on ground level is shocking.
@@SuperMuneera He'll never get anywhere in football, time to assess his career options.
He just outed himself should’ve kept that to himself
It’s about levels
@@timboslice8559 I doubt he has any intentions of going back into management.
This is very very true, seeing the gamw from tele angle and pitch side, are completely different
I wish we could choose cameras like in a videogame 😊
Like imagine, having a follow-a-player cam 😅
@PeterGaşperan-d6c 🤣👍, that was the first time I noticed the viewing angle matters
That’s exactly what the video says 😂
From tv it looks like the players have space and time but when u go to a game you realise how different it is from tv i prefer tv better view no annying idiots no queeing and i cqn sit down and chill enjoying the game
@@brandonkeary-o3z 👌
Valverde is one of the best coaches ever, hugely underrated. The fact that he spent 3 seasons in the Greek league is nothing short of a miracle.
I'm a huge admirer of Valverde. Bilbao won their only silverware in like 30 years under him
Great coach but not for biggest clubs
He almost went unbeaten in the league with Barca only one loss in the league to win the league.
He is not perfect but still he is great and underrated coach.
@@ikpeamaojichukwu5947 almost and didnt do nothing in CL
In fact, 4 seasons, 3 league titles.
That's why we shouldn't care so much about the opinion of casuals or pundits on the internet. Coaches have the best understanding of the game
Pundit??? This pundit is maybe the best RB in Prem history.
@@mightymoeish Michael Owen is one of the best English talents ever. That being said he’s football analysis is nowhere near that of successful managers.
@@masilomoshesh1475 lol could you imagine him as a coach? Golly
Roy did well at Sunderland and Ipswich
@@mightymoeishthere talking about you not Gary
Football is like chess with human pieces. The manager is the actual player. Managers are not viewed from this perspective enough. They are like generals. Some generals know their tactics, know how to tweak for an advantage. Some don't.
Not really, a lot of top managers are interested in man management and motivating their players. Sir Alex and ancelotti are two recent examples that are both probably top ten ever, and would rarely speak about tactics at all. Also recently Arne slot mentioned that people think he thinks about tactics all day, whereas in reality 99% of what he’s thinking about is how to motivate his players and get their energy up
@@conallfarquhar8069 Ancelotti built all his systems to suit the players at hand. He is one of the best tacticians in the game. He doesn't have to speak about it all day. Fergie managed at a time when 442 was the widespread formation, so without an eye for detail, I can see why you might think he didn't play chess with football, but there's a reason he had O'Sheas and Fletchers and Parks and Johnsens and Solskjaers around the place. He tweaked little subtle elements that clearly flew by your head, and assigned specific tasks and roles to players. He didn't do what he did with Aberdeen through motivation alone. He didn't win multiple UCLs without having some tactical nous. Of course a Zidane can take over a team full of world class players and motivate them to success. The elite players are built that way. Let's see Zidane at a Newcastle or Roma...
Ancelottis one of the best tacticians in the game, yet after the champions league final in 2022 he said he couldn’t tell you if Madrid were playing a 433 or 442??? I don’t think so mate, just saying something doesn’t make it true, you’re not Donald trump. Also I didn’t say they never spoke about tactics, just that it was rare. But going back to the point, you’ve just said zidane can motivate world class players to win multiple ucls, in other words you can be incredibly successful without tactics, which is the point I was making
@@conallfarquhar8069 My point was that motivation alone does not make one a great manager, despite success. Hence the Roma/Newcastle comment. Zidane did an amazing thing with Madrid, but I can't class him as a top manager as I do with Ancelotti, Fergie etc. I need to see what he can do with less, even just slightly less, resources before he makes that grade. Ancelotti knew the formation. He just brushes off that type of stuff flippantly, half out of modesty, and half because he's just a stoic guy.
But that wasn’t the point I was making. The initial comment likened managers to chess players or generals as they are very tactical, I was making the point that some are and some aren’t, so it isn’t a great comparison. I don’t know why you’re talking about how good the players are, that was never in the discussion. And you know this about ancelotti how? Because from all I’ve heard from former players of sir Alex and ancelotti, they all emphasise the man management and say they would hardly ever discuss tactics, you’re basing it off of…?
Valverde is also one of the best Spanish coaches of the past 15 years. Massively underrated because his stint at a decaying barcelona wasn't the best ("only" 2 leagues and a cup) but he's been successful and resourceful at almost every team he's been in.
Exactly, almost won the league unbeaten and if Pique, Busquets and Alba's legs weren't gone he probably could have got them a Champions League in 2019.
I love how honest Gary is about his shortcomings as a coach. I’d have never even thought about the sort of view they have from the technical area etc
That's why they have assistants watching the game on tablets and giving the coach information.
Yes
But that's a new thing but when they didn't have tablets
Gary is becoming rhetorical best football personality in the world, funny humble and intelligent is everything you want from a tv personality
He shouldve started lower league coaching 1st.. going to la liga on his 1st managerial job was insane.. crushed his confidence altogether.. dont know maybe if he started slow, he'll still be managing now..
Tbf he was great tactical player, so this could work but it just didn't. Same thing, even more, with players like Pirlo, Lampard or Xavi. If you asked decade ago about them I would bet lot of money all of theylm will be great managers. And today I will broke asf 😂
Possibly. A few less eyes and a bit less pressure. Lower league coaching is light years ahead of where it was though I think, and I'd imagine he'd have found it equally as tough. Generally, you have to be obsessive about the tiniest details to be successful. You still get some who do well, by being good man managers and letting the players get on with it, but I think those type of managers are becoming far less common.
Dont put xavis name next to these wannabe manager, he won la liga and placed the foundations for hansi’s barca
He would've sucked no matter which team he started at. Too comfortable sitting in that studio with his golf buddies.
@@SpiderGYR Bro how dare you pUt Xavi in that list? Xavi won Laliga against a Prime Madrid that had just won Champions league & Laliga prior season, And got to 3 back to back semifinals of UCL. Xavi actually won trophies with Barca, lampard & pirlo were clueless
This ia the same Enersto valverde that some fans have called clueless, and has no tactics.. now we know he squats for a reason, and he is absolutely tactically acute. Thanks Gary for the honest breakdown.
You don't have to be a tactical genius to know better than Gary Neville.
* astute
I guess that's why tactical analysis and preparation during training needs to be spot on. Because it's not that easy to adapt during a 90 minute(or more) match when time and atmosphere and all that pressure is against You.
We noticed, Gary 😂
😂 everyone knows
I respect him for this. He went from "I would never coach again if anyone scored 7 against my team" (as a pundit), to getting trashed 7:0 by Luis Enrique (as a Valencia coach) and getting ridiculed for years after, to "I was nowhere near that level" now.
Have to admire Gary's honesty and humility.
I appreciate the honesty. Most good players dont make good coaches precisely because they see the game differently and their ability allows them to do things most cant do but when it comes to translating your instructions, seeing the game from a different vantage it can become a frustrating job
This makes the fact that rugby coaches sit in the gantrees very interesting and brings to mind a curiosity as to why football managers didnt follow suit (or have a rep up there passing on information)
Big Sam did this back in the Bolton days if I remember right
They have assistant coaches on tablets
Wow, great for you to come out and say this.
His honesty should be praised tbh but also considered common sense at this point in time, we're not all about our highs so share your lows as well
Yet Lampard still finds employment. Frank must be seeing bootlaces only out there
Spot on! Managers for sure have this mental map of the pitch.
Cause I have though the same as Gary. It's IMPOSSIBLE to make it out from the sideline. I had no problems ON the pitch though to be aware and stuff.. But off it..
I think many take coaching for granted. Esp the best ones
"I have no idea"
Yeah Gary, we know 😂
Nice to know he clearly learned a lot and was able to humble himself to understand that he was out of his depth.
"What's going out there" 😂😂😂
Valverde is the GOAT Spanish coach. He managed to win titles with that Barca roster…. Truly insane
Keeping it 💯. Gotta respect that
"What's actually going on out there?" 😂😂😂
Excellent commentary. Respect!
Nicely said!!!
Valverde is still our coach and we won las night against Real Madrid with only Bask players😊
Yes,Nico and Iñaki were born in the Basque Country ❤🎉😍✌🏾
Gorri ta zuria!
This is why i always wonder how Messi has a clear map on his head because he always makes the right decision 9/10 it's like he's watching on tv while he's on the pitch 🤯
Love Gary he always keeps it real!
I remember getting some amazing seats at a game and I just could not follow positions or what anyone was doing it’s completely different pitch side.
Really admire the honesty
That sums up his coaching stint haha
If he was as humble in his punditry he would be revered everywhere. Almost like he acts a spiteful fool on purpose
I love his honesty.
The way he says “I am nowhere near that” 😂😂
I admire Gary's honesty to admit he wasn't on the level of other coaches.
this is how i feel everytime i try to play football, all I see is people everywhere..its overwhelming
Honestly appreciate the honesty
i appreciate the facthe never shits on a coach or calls for sacking
Fair play for him being honest regarding this
Pleased to see some honesty from Neville about his managerial career.
I actually respect Gary that he doesn't make excuses about Valencia. He was chucked in at the deep end and stitched up by Peter Lim, but he holds himself responsible for the team being so poor.
Pundit?? This pundit is perhaps the best RB in Premier league history. With a 20 year career playing professionally.
Credit to Gary for being honest about it. Good on ya.
I like his honesty.
He's so honest 😂
Props for this gary
His point about being able to see the game from the touch line is a huge thing because he is right you can see lines and patterns of play from an elevation but you literally just see legs from the grass😂
I love how Gary just openly admits how incompetent he was for the job😂 Honestly more power to him for saying it
Yep can't make fun of him now
It’s kind of amazing he lasted as long as he did then
Richie Wellens at Orient has recently started watching games from upstairs and says he can’t understand why he wasn’t doing it years ago, it’ll be the norm soon
Donnie legend
There was a coach in Brazil that would bring a TV to the ground 😂
Sam allardyce was doing it years ago with the headset
You do know Fergie used to do that all the time at United?
@ For that reason then why wasn’t anyone copying him? Greatest manager ever
I always wondered I how they saw shit so clearly from such a weird view😂😂
Perfect example of just because you sit in the cockpit doesn't mean you're a pilot
For me this is why it shouldn't be rushed. Be a coach first and get used to it. I remember sitting right at the front on the half way line at Stamford bridge and it was such a weird angle and experience just like he mentioned.
Tbh hes totally right, go to a local sunday league game and stand near the halfway line on the touchline, whenever the balls on the opposite side/near the corners you cant see anything
Appreciate the honesty
Now this is real talk about managing a team.
Valverde is a fine coach, great temperament. Was a strong player too.
Thats exactly how i also think but wen ur on the pitch, its completely diffrent
This is why Allardyce always enjoyed watching from the stands
"That is what a good manager does - you study, think and discuss, and you come up with a model of playing" - Carlo Ancelotti
"I just remember thinking, what's going on out there? Know what I mean?" - Gary Neville
Neville proving why he couldn’t cut it as a Coach.
If sport didn’t exist these coaches would be the most effective generals in the world.
HOW TF did this guy become Valencia manager 💀
These days, at least in Europe, most teams have a tablet by the bench, giving you an overall view of the pitch from different angles.
Look at least he’s honest
The funny thing is most coaches, even the top, ones feel like this from time to time. Doubt and confusion is a natural part of leadership, but its important you always have a mindset of “how do i figure it out”. Thats why Pep and Carlo and them look so serious. They are just as confused at times but they gotta keep that poker face
I would think after playing for 20 or so years he would be able to identify different systems and positions from pitch level. I find this incredible that he would struggle to identify them as a coach on the sideline. When you think about how teams used to have actual dugouts where the bench was even below pitch level in some stadiums and coaches were able to see everything, I wonder how some people who experienced that would struggle more than others.
Works for when you want to play every position during the same game
This is also why Fergie used to set his seat on the highest point of the dugout so his coaches and himself could see as much as they can from above
Valverde would outclass most rookie managers tactically, so no disgrace. I admire his honesty though.
Usually the best managers are good students of the game. Of all the current top managers, I think only Zidane is not what I deem as a student of the game, as he is naturally gifted and depends more on technical ability than tactical prowess.
At least he is honest about it.
He hadn't a clue, lol
If he had any idea he’d have survived as a manager.
In their mind they are playing a formation with lines😂.
That’s why you should respect Messi and other exceptional players tactically gifted beyond imagination 😊
Except fans, apparently fans know more than the manager.
When the two zemo samas were watching the gods fight “what’s actually going out there”
Gary will never get a job in Spain ever again 😭😭😭😂😂😂
Not that the experience is comparable but, I have been coaching the U18 school team for the last 4 years. Seeing a game pitch side compared to the TV is genuinely night and day. It’s so hard!
some peoples dont understand how underrated valverde are. he took the shittiest barca squad from the decades to win la liga, its technically most of the squads are deadwoods, and messi ofc.
That's because you saw the game in 2D when your supposed to envision it in 3D
Gary neville going for the 'man management' approach but doesn't speak their language
This is much more about Gary Neville not being very clever rather than coaches being geniuses
coaches and politicians get critised more than any other job
"No one can get anything passed us" says the guy that always gets Arsenal's tactics way wrong 😂😂
I've managed at semi pro level and amateur level, I can tell you management is fcking hard😂😂😂😂
Respect to gary for telling the truth
How did he manage to get the job in the first place, if he can't even see what's going on? 🤦♂️😂
He took the job as a favour to the owner, who had helped with Salford previously.
@ThisAlbino Valencia is a big club to be run by an inexperienced manager for a favour 🤣I guess that's why he didn't last long. Thanks for the info.
Gary is so honest...coach and manager not your best into...you are best in talking (like what SAF said about you)
yet he didn't resign, he waited to be fired.
Bro literally coached a team without knowing what to do😆
The first time in Gary's life he realised he was as bad as everyone said he was 😂
And today Valverde's Athetic club has defeated Real Madrid after 9 years❤🎉
Should have become an Assistant Manager and worked his way up. Now he makes a career criticising managers and their tactics
This is why I play FM in 2D mode.