By way of introduction, I'm an American Orthodox Jew. I was searching for recent talks by Dr. Trueman, so I appreciated this program. Sheik Hamza and your channel are a great find and most impressive. Subscribed.
UA-cam is really great for that But I still have to be very mindful about how I use, it's very easy to end up consuming useless content without noticing
Sheikh Hamza Yusuf. MashAllah. Allah bless him and protect him and give him long life with good health, him and all his loved ones and all those who love him.. What more can we say.. An ocean of knowledge..
Wow, this is special. I wanted some Muslim to talk to Carl. And look, our beloved Sh Hamza Yusuf is having a conversation with him. Looking forward to this conversation.
Loved this. Thank you. Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was new to me. Very much like to hear more. The host was marvelous. And Carl Trueman is a profound thinker & cultural critic I hope to read soon.
Great discussion, thank you Gentlemen for putting this on. Very appreciative of your efforts to shed light on how we arrived at where we are now, which then provides some kind of pathway for an escape from our degeneracy and malaise. We need more wise men like Hamza and Dr. Trueman!!!
Thank you for this, such a thoughtful discussion may Allah bless both Hamza Yusuf and Carl Trueman and thank you brother Safir for facilitating the discussion, may Allah keep al of you safe
this was great discussion on many issues prevaling and some of the crucial questions were answered as well... shukran to sheikh hamza yusuf for conducting such sessions as these are important to remain sane in this contemporary world...
A wonderful sharing of thoughts on the issue. Back to the words of God and teachings and the exemplary practices and principles of prophets , especially the last prophet is the only solution to all illnesses of individuals and societies
Allahumma arinal haqqa haqqawarzuqnat tiba'ah, wa arinal baatila baatilawarzuqnaj tinaabah O Allah! Enable us to see the Truth as Truth and give us the ability to follow it. And show us the falsehood as false and give us the ability to refrain from it. Allahumma A'inni ‘Ala Zikrika wa Shukrika wa Husni ‘Ibadatika O Allah help me to remember you, to be grateful to you, and to worship you in the most excellent manner
52:09 Excellent question. Compassion is available and offered to all, without exception. Acceptance on the other hand is not a prerequisite, and unlikely to be true, even if it is coerced from those who know the Truth of creation.
Pertinent discussion. So happy to see dr hamza yusuf again. I request the renovatio to upload the whole program if possible. May Allah swt give barakah in all that u do
Interesting conversation, everything we are wrestling with today started with warp philosophies and presuppositions that can't be substantiated. Humpty's fall and breaking into so many pieces and the wall evacuated of all meaning.
Thanks for sharing this material. I haven't listened to it yet, but I know it won't be disappointing. Sheikh H. Yusuf only attracts to him intelligent and interesting people.
Thank you for offering this discussion! It’s so important for us to understand the origins and cross-pollinations of the philosophies that laid the groundwork for our current social crises. Maybe in a future talk you could discuss the underpinnings of transhumanism specifically. That looks like where the globalists are heading with some of this.
The path being the middle way, it is interesting to look at history and religion itself needing to course correct, both on the macro and micro level..... And maybe it is because a piece of humanity is always battling against the total surrender that is asked of us from Allah, so that it becomes this "too many rules" or "not enough rules", etc. We warp one way, then the other...until we finally perhaps choose to bow in the center of the Light.
Love Truth above All Things ❤️ Accept and Thank the Suffering 💚 (from the knowledge of Truth) Confront and Illuminate Malevolence 💜 Tirany is the Seed of its Own Destruction !!! The Ends Never Justify the Means The Means Always Determine the Ends From the Unconscious Hell ❤️ To the Conscious Hell 💚 Until the Paradise of Consciousness 💜 Stay Awake Not Woke ❤️ 💚 💜
I like Sh. Hamza Yusuf , he is a sincere fellow ; its erudition in arabic language and islamic tradition is based on solid knowledge. However, honesty compels me to say that his thoughts about Rabelais betrays quite a serious misunderstanding of the latter. Alister Crowley is in no way a "trickle down effect" of thelema's rabelaisian myth. Crowley's thelema is a kind of sadian madhouse. Rabelais is in no case involved in such a thing. In a previous talk somewhere, we can hear Shaykh Hamza blaming Albert Camus as a "nihilist thinker", falsely claiming that Camus commited suicide. As a mattrer of fact, Camus died in a car accident. And again, HY misread Camus : this one did not advocate nihilism. In fact, it's the opposite. For Camus, nihilism is a puzzling sign of time, and the task of serious thinking is to find a way out of that state. I'm French, and the way HY tends to despise French philosophers (as he's name dropping them with morgue; Foucault, Derrida, Rousseau...) amazes me. It's obvious that he didn't read nor study any of them. (What he says about Rousseau is distressing). Thelema Abbey is a place - which is nowhere to be found - that is to say : an u-topia - where law cease to be necessary as a ruling factor, since this very place ends a spiritual journey (an initiatic path - a real Odissey) during which the residents have gained enough light to be free and purely educated and ethical. Rabelais is a giant.
On the other hand, Camus focused most of his philosophy around existential questions. The absurdity of life, the inevitable ending (death) is highlighted in his acts. His belief was that the absurd-life being void of meaning, or man's inability to know that meaning if it were to exist-was something that man should embrace. His anti-Christianity, his commitment to individual moral freedom and responsibility are only a few of the similarities with other existential writers.[84] More importantly, Camus addressed one of the fundamental questions of existentialism: the problem of suicide. He wrote: "There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide."[85] Camus viewed the question of suicide as arising naturally as a solution to the absurdity of life.[47]
Good show; Trueman attack in Wordsworth is over the top. The shows a divine structure to the world. Give me a break. Certainly, other romantics lead a path away from a lose of values. Everyone learns from pattern they are exposed to. Instinct is not the correct term. Books are not the only method to distribute the concept of cause and effect. Sequential translation into language then to writing and back by the reader in a loop over and over. This is academia, which defines ths as the only way and declares any other mode of transmission is for the "masses." Hamza Yusuf has so very good comments
Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is an ocean of knowledge. May Allah always protect and preserve him. Aameen
❤
ameen
@@naimahmajeed50366:00 captures the spirit of their sophistry
It's a shame most of the youth will not watch this but only certain intellectuals.
I am far from a certain intellectual, but watch still I do do
@@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858you're an intellectual in the making
or parents watch it!
By way of introduction, I'm an American Orthodox Jew. I was searching for recent talks by Dr. Trueman, so I appreciated this program. Sheik Hamza and your channel are a great find and most impressive. Subscribed.
Shaloom dear brother.
It's always a delight to listen to learned people. This reminded me again to use UA-cam more as a learning tool and less an entertainment channel 😅.
Glad it was helpful!
UA-cam is really great for that
But I still have to be very mindful about how I use, it's very easy to end up consuming useless content without noticing
So much love and respect for Sh. Hamza and Zaytuna. May Allah bless everyone involved in producing this video.
اللهم ارني الحق حقاً و ارزقني اتباعه و ارني الباطل باطلًا و ارزقني اجتنابه
May Allah swa bless our beloved shiekh Hamza yusuf. He is a gift to the muslim Ummah.
Sheikh Hamza Yusuf. MashAllah. Allah bless him and protect him and give him long life with good health, him and all his loved ones and all those who love him..
What more can we say.. An ocean of knowledge..
Come for Shaikh Yusuf, stay for prof. Trueman. Very rewarding.
Wow, this is special. I wanted some Muslim to talk to Carl. And look, our beloved Sh Hamza Yusuf is having a conversation with him. Looking forward to this conversation.
The best company is that of righteous educators.
Masha'Allah wataBarakAllah
21:00 I thought the hillfire club was fake
Masha'Allah Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is so intelligent. May Allah (swt) preserve him and bless him for his works. In shaa Allah.
Loved this. Thank you. Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was new to me. Very much like to hear more. The host was marvelous. And Carl Trueman is a profound thinker & cultural critic I hope to read soon.
My love for shaykh Hamza increases day by day, may Allah preserve him.
I could listen to Hamza Yusuf all day
Great discussion, thank you Gentlemen for putting this on. Very appreciative of your efforts to shed light on how we arrived at where we are now, which then provides some kind of pathway for an escape from our degeneracy and malaise. We need more wise men like Hamza and Dr. Trueman!!!
Was up!!!!!
❤🎉❤😊
@@jrock201915:30 what shaped moral intuition
Quality work right here. A similar book I've read had a profound effect. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint
Thank you for this, such a thoughtful discussion may Allah bless both Hamza Yusuf and Carl Trueman and thank you brother Safir for facilitating the discussion, may Allah keep al of you safe
Hamza Yusuf is a jewel of wisdom, faith and knowledge.
Shaykh Hamza dazzles. May you shine brighter.
this was great discussion on many issues prevaling and some of the crucial questions were answered as well... shukran to sheikh hamza yusuf for conducting such sessions as these are important to remain sane in this contemporary world...
A wonderful sharing of thoughts on the issue.
Back to the words of God and teachings and the exemplary practices and principles of prophets , especially the last prophet is the only solution to all illnesses of individuals and societies
God give Protection to these good people
16:00 what are his books ?
One of my fav sheikh
Hamza Yusuf ❤❤
Humpty Dumpty- Wonderful analogy Hamza. Always exceed expectation. Allah protect u my brother. So many goid points from Carl. Appreciated.
Very informative. So much to learn and to contemplate. These intellectuals are so needed in society. Thank you for this video
can’t express my love n respect for zaytuna in words !! Would love to study there one day ❤❤
Thank you so much for a very thoughtprovoking talk. So so deep. Never despare of Allahs mercy!! Even if we live in interesting times.
Well said!
Great talk. What a pleasure it is to listen to these great minds! Thank you Zaytuna College!
Absolutely brilliant. Wonderful times we live in , having to listen to such conversations.
So glad you found it beneficial.
Refreshing discussion. Deconstructing the current paradigm is the first step.
Loved this talk. Only Renovatio can bring discussions on such interesting topics from the Islamic perspective.
Thank you!
This lecture opened my eyes to hidden facts and factors surrounding us in this time and age.
Allahumma arinal haqqa haqqawarzuqnat tiba'ah, wa arinal baatila baatilawarzuqnaj tinaabah
O Allah! Enable us to see the Truth as Truth and give us the ability to follow it.
And show us the falsehood as false and give us the ability to refrain from it.
Allahumma A'inni ‘Ala Zikrika wa
Shukrika wa Husni ‘Ibadatika
O Allah help me to remember you, to be grateful to you, and to worship you in the most excellent
manner
Love❤ from Kerala south India
Thank you for watching!
52:09 Excellent question. Compassion is available and offered to all, without exception. Acceptance on the other hand is not a prerequisite, and unlikely to be true, even if it is coerced from those who know the Truth of creation.
Shared and nourished by,
very insightful about all sorts of unexpected angles. Much appreciated
Pertinent discussion. So happy to see dr hamza yusuf again. I request the renovatio to upload the whole program if possible.
May Allah swt give barakah in all that u do
Thank you!
Interesting conversation, everything we are wrestling with today started with warp philosophies and presuppositions that can't be substantiated. Humpty's fall and breaking into so many pieces and the wall evacuated of all meaning.
Wonderful! Love these type of discussions
Fascinating exchanges. Thank You
“If God’s aid is not helping the servant of God, then the thing that most harms him is in own effort”.
Appreciate the discussion.
Alhamdulillah, this is a brilliant reminder. Jazzak Allah khair.
From the Unconscious Hell ❤️
To the Conscious Hell 💚
Until the Paradise of Consciousness 💜
Stay Awake Not Woke ❤️ 💚 💜
Thanks for sharing this material. I haven't listened to it yet, but I know it won't be disappointing. Sheikh H. Yusuf only attracts to him intelligent and interesting people.
Really good conversation.
Thank you for offering this discussion! It’s so important for us to understand the origins and cross-pollinations of the philosophies that laid the groundwork for our current social crises.
Maybe in a future talk you could discuss the underpinnings of transhumanism specifically. That looks like where the globalists are heading with some of this.
social crises = folks not believing the same stuff you do
brilliant
Allah ybaarik feek ya Sheikhna!
Excellent conversation!
Thank you
Poignant!! Im sharing.
"Once you remove God from art, really art dissipates, in any serious way" 13:43
Wonderful and necessary presentation that is so needed.
Very interesting indeed. Many thanks to all involved
Watching a discussion with Sheikh Hamza may take half a day, as one may feel the urge to stop the recording every second to take notes.
Will read the book.
Fantastic Discussion!
Masha Allah, great insight
Thaaannnk Yooouuu ❤️💚💜
جزاك الله خيرا شيخ همزه
A great eye_opening talk
The path being the middle way, it is interesting to look at history and religion itself needing to course correct, both on the macro and micro level..... And maybe it is because a piece of humanity is always battling against the total surrender that is asked of us from Allah, so that it becomes this "too many rules" or "not enough rules", etc. We warp one way, then the other...until we finally perhaps choose to bow in the center of the Light.
Jazakallahu Khairn
Thank you for this... very stimulating, very affirming for me personally. Aarrgg...
You're very welcome
18:14 religious rituals transform our emotions over time
Love listening to gems
Ma sha Allah, it's an enlightening discussion
Morality: A habitus of the soul that is acquired over effort 14:11
It has an objective reality that is identifiable 14:37
MashaAllah. :)
Love Truth above All Things ❤️
Accept and Thank the Suffering 💚
(from the knowledge of Truth)
Confront and Illuminate Malevolence 💜
Tirany is the Seed of its Own Destruction !!!
The Ends Never Justify the Means
The Means Always Determine the Ends
From the Unconscious Hell ❤️
To the Conscious Hell 💚
Until the Paradise of Consciousness 💜
Stay Awake Not Woke ❤️ 💚 💜
Love it Jazakallah khayr !!
What was Forest’s poem again ?
Wonderful subject
amazing and truly thought provoking discussion
Glad you enjoyed it!
Will Dr. Trueman's speech (and if Shaykh Hamza had one too) be available too?
Yes, soon!
@@RenovatioJournal alhumdulillah
Brillisnt!
Mashallah
Gawd!! We are fallen... need to be repentant!!
best
15:36 they have not been argues out of the positions there are other things at play(emotional attunement)
I like Sh. Hamza Yusuf , he is a sincere fellow ; its erudition in arabic language and islamic tradition is based on solid knowledge. However, honesty compels me to say that his thoughts about Rabelais betrays quite a serious misunderstanding of the latter. Alister Crowley is in no way a "trickle down effect" of thelema's rabelaisian myth. Crowley's thelema is a kind of sadian madhouse. Rabelais is in no case involved in such a thing. In a previous talk somewhere, we can hear Shaykh Hamza blaming Albert Camus as a "nihilist thinker", falsely claiming that Camus commited suicide. As a mattrer of fact, Camus died in a car accident. And again, HY misread Camus : this one did not advocate nihilism. In fact, it's the opposite. For Camus, nihilism is a puzzling sign of time, and the task of serious thinking is to find a way out of that state. I'm French, and the way HY tends to despise French philosophers (as he's name dropping them with morgue; Foucault, Derrida, Rousseau...) amazes me. It's obvious that he didn't read nor study any of them. (What he says about Rousseau is distressing).
Thelema Abbey is a place - which is nowhere to be found - that is to say : an u-topia - where law cease to be necessary as a ruling factor, since this very place ends a spiritual journey (an initiatic path - a real Odissey) during which the residents have gained enough light to be free and purely educated and ethical. Rabelais is a giant.
On the other hand, Camus focused most of his philosophy around existential questions. The absurdity of life, the inevitable ending (death) is highlighted in his acts. His belief was that the absurd-life being void of meaning, or man's inability to know that meaning if it were to exist-was something that man should embrace. His anti-Christianity, his commitment to individual moral freedom and responsibility are only a few of the similarities with other existential writers.[84] More importantly, Camus addressed one of the fundamental questions of existentialism: the problem of suicide. He wrote: "There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide."[85] Camus viewed the question of suicide as arising naturally as a solution to the absurdity of life.[47]
This the best i ever heard Bout god
32:42
👌🏼
27:43
Where did he got info on all these people 😳. What do u read ?
Salamun alaykum jamee’an
Can anyone link me or message me the exact title or R, L, Colnoy “the riders/or writers of the apocalypse”
The philosopher's name is Aurel Kolnai and the article he wrote is titled "Three Riders of the Apocalypse."
48:04
They Are IN Jahiliyah (IGNORANCE) & Also Are CONFOUNDED
1:03:25 liberal education
W.o.w
OKAY HERE IS THE QUESTION - WHY IS UA-cam SHORTS SO INFESTED WITH IMMODEST PROFANITY? SO MANY LADIES BEHAVE AS IF ITS NORMAL
Good show; Trueman attack in Wordsworth is over the top. The shows a divine structure to the world. Give me a break. Certainly, other romantics lead a path away from a lose of values. Everyone learns from pattern they are exposed to. Instinct is not the correct term. Books are not the only method to distribute the concept of cause and effect. Sequential translation into language then to writing and back by the reader in a loop over and over. This is academia, which defines ths as the only way and declares any other mode of transmission is for the "masses." Hamza Yusuf has so very good comments
A woman's highest calling is to be a Custodian of the Culture. Civility, safety for children, socialbility with grace.
57:54 ●
44:15 morality religion
MashaAllah