Thanks for the video. Would love more info on the e-PPG such as…How much to purchase complete; the weight of the unit; any distributors in the US and so on (or is it purchased directly). Have been to the website but not a lot of details available. The Benefit of Open PPG is that they are USA local with lots of details and an active flying community. I don’t want to discount this unit as I already like the “Fly Products”-like frame better (I have flown the Eclipse). It would be great if more e-PPG products started to be offered. I also grew tired of the 2 stroke maintenance, smell, and reliability issues. Thanks for any info.
I have owned/ operated an EPG21 for around 6 months now and can vouch for what Marshall has said in this video. The endurance is over an hour and the paramotor is fantastic. A couple of netting clips that I’ve swapped out but the rest is really well designed. It’s like flying a drone, just go straight away. No engine vibration and very reliable. It’s 34kg but the battery is pushed in toward your back, there is a smaller lever arm so it feels no heavier than other paramotors I’ve flown. It’s definitely more powerful than my Moster 185.
@tucker got just tested the open source sp140 for duration flight. They claimed between 40 and 60 minutes. Real life is he measured between 18 and 40 minutes at best, depending on wing and flight style. Check his video. Cheers
I know you are an ambassador for the brand but the numbers they gave you and math doesn't really add up. You say 87kgs of thrust but on the site it's says 210A ESC which at most would produce 20kw of power. So no where near 87kgs of thrust. It's using the same motor we develop so we know what it can do. On top of that is using a 130cm prop vs 140cm so its would be less thrust for the same power vs 140cm. That's just the thrust the other info like "guaranteed" flight time is just not mathematical true. I would just be careful taking numbers at face value, It's just one of those things that once one seller it's hard saying numbers that are really exaggerated and then the other sellers are forced to say the same number higher than It ends up with everybody kind of just lying or exaggerating about the specs. Not the path I'd like to see the electric paramotors to go down. I think what would be really valuable video for people It's just take the motor, weigh it and then fly it with your regular paramotor wing and see what the numbers are when the battery completely just discharged. That's a good way to get real numbers at least for flight time so you don't have to rely on trusting the manufacturers. Good over view looking forward to more electric content.
Thanks for your comment! The numbers on the website have all been tested and are accurate but I’ll for sure make a video soon of a full 100% to zero battery flight and show how much flight time I get 🤙🏽
HI Guys , i'm in Australia and fly a Airconception Tornado 280 with a Viper5 16 and Freeride 17 and doen over 600 hours paragliding and paramotoring , but how does time go on a smaller wing and were would i buy or look at in aus . What sort of coin in Aus money pretty keen to try change to electric and is the frame titanium or aluminum .
I think the future of two strokers is gone, kaput ! It´s obvious that paramotors should be fully electric by now. Even the guys at Vittorazi know that ICE systems are finished. I love the idea 100% A 20 minute system but ultra light for seniors and any other pilot that today fears a back injury is a must . Just to take off and get to ridge. That´s it.
Future of 2 strokes is gone?? They will be around for many many more years. The ideal setup is having a battery powered unit and a gas unit. Hopefully within the next decade they can get 2 hours of flight time out of these. Then I believe most people will make the switch. I don't fly yet but if I get into this sport I'm really undecided on a battery unit or a gasser.
The difference between gas & electric paramotor is the same as the difference between gas & electric cars. One cannot replace the other when it comes to range.
Hi, I give you a thumbs up. but nothing is new here. Many DIYers have used e foil trottle years ago and noticed that it is nice for prototypes but never for a series. How can you bear responsibility without building something for man-carrying aviation sports according to the rules of the state of technology?
Dual battery 100watt flexible solar flag trailing out the back. Electric heated suit and gloves. Electric food warmer on board. Mini tent, gun, radio. Fly out to nowhere and be where it’s at
I'd feel I have much more safety with a normal IC engine with a wired controller....I wouldnt fly higher than 5 feet with an electric motor and a wireless throttle trigger.. nah F that
we need to see more pilot test on the flight time
Thanks for the video. Would love more info on the e-PPG such as…How much to purchase complete; the weight of the unit; any distributors in the US and so on (or is it purchased directly). Have been to the website but not a lot of details available. The Benefit of Open PPG is that they are USA local with lots of details and an active flying community. I don’t want to discount this unit as I already like the “Fly Products”-like frame better (I have flown the Eclipse). It would be great if more e-PPG products started to be offered. I also grew tired of the 2 stroke maintenance, smell, and reliability issues. Thanks for any info.
interesting to see you managed to bring the battery into cabin luggage ...
Nice review mate! Got really interested in paramotor now!! :D
I have owned/ operated an EPG21 for around 6 months now and can vouch for what Marshall has said in this video. The endurance is over an hour and the paramotor is fantastic. A couple of netting clips that I’ve swapped out but the rest is really well designed. It’s like flying a drone, just go straight away. No engine vibration and very reliable. It’s 34kg but the battery is pushed in toward your back, there is a smaller lever arm so it feels no heavier than other paramotors I’ve flown. It’s definitely more powerful than my Moster 185.
No prices on the website. How much is that with bigger battery?
What’s the price difference against the OpenPPg ? I am looking to buy a OpenPPg in the summer and just ran across this?
@tucker got just tested the open source sp140 for duration flight. They claimed between 40 and 60 minutes. Real life is he measured between 18 and 40 minutes at best, depending on wing and flight style. Check his video.
Cheers
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I know you are an ambassador for the brand but the numbers they gave you and math doesn't really add up.
You say 87kgs of thrust but on the site it's says 210A ESC which at most would produce 20kw of power. So no where near 87kgs of thrust. It's using the same motor we develop so we know what it can do. On top of that is using a 130cm prop vs 140cm so its would be less thrust for the same power vs 140cm.
That's just the thrust the other info like "guaranteed" flight time is just not mathematical true.
I would just be careful taking numbers at face value, It's just one of those things that once one seller it's hard saying numbers that are really exaggerated and then the other sellers are forced to say the same number higher than It ends up with everybody kind of just lying or exaggerating about the specs. Not the path I'd like to see the electric paramotors to go down.
I think what would be really valuable video for people It's just take the motor, weigh it and then fly it with your regular paramotor wing and see what the numbers are when the battery completely just discharged.
That's a good way to get real numbers at least for flight time so you don't have to rely on trusting the manufacturers.
Good over view looking forward to more electric content.
Thanks for your comment! The numbers on the website have all been tested and are accurate but I’ll for sure make a video soon of a full 100% to zero battery flight and show how much flight time I get 🤙🏽
@@marshallmosher You tested these numbers? Are you able to post a video show thrust on the trust stand? Would be cool to see.
Yo plz answer the question from PDwhite
@@rickardjonsson4526 yes, they have been tested. I’ll work on getting a video showing the thrust on a trust stand.
@@marshallmosher the numbers have been tested by you?
HI Guys , i'm in Australia and fly a Airconception Tornado 280 with a Viper5 16 and Freeride 17 and doen over 600 hours paragliding and paramotoring , but how does time go on a smaller wing and were would i buy or look at in aus . What sort of coin in Aus money pretty keen to try change to electric and is the frame titanium or aluminum .
How much?
I think the future of two strokers is gone, kaput ! It´s obvious that paramotors should be fully electric by now. Even the guys at Vittorazi know that ICE systems are finished. I love the idea 100%
A 20 minute system but ultra light for seniors and any other pilot that today fears a back injury is a must . Just to take off and get to ridge. That´s it.
Future of 2 strokes is gone?? They will be around for many many more years. The ideal setup is having a battery powered unit and a gas unit. Hopefully within the next decade they can get 2 hours of flight time out of these. Then I believe most people will make the switch. I don't fly yet but if I get into this sport I'm really undecided on a battery unit or a gasser.
The difference between gas & electric paramotor is the same as the difference between gas & electric cars. One cannot replace the other when it comes to range.
Hi, I give you a thumbs up. but nothing is new here. Many DIYers have used e foil trottle years ago and noticed that it is nice for prototypes but never for a series. How can you bear responsibility without building something for man-carrying aviation sports according to the rules of the state of technology?
good stuff
Dual battery 100watt flexible solar flag trailing out the back. Electric heated suit and gloves. Electric food warmer on board. Mini tent, gun, radio. Fly out to nowhere and be where it’s at
😂
I'd feel I have much more safety with a normal IC engine with a wired controller....I wouldnt fly higher than 5 feet with an electric motor and a wireless throttle trigger.. nah F that