I wonder why Jeff Trachta left the show, whether he chose to leave or they chose to recast. Winsor Harmon's Thorne never really had that kind of chemistry with Macy.
@@annieo6527I think Bell Jr wanted more of s e x and/or good looks appeal and to connect w other characters romantically such as Taylor and Brooke and relive the brotherhood rivalry w Ridge and I don't think Jeff Trachta could pull it off so it was a bit good timing for Winsor Harmon to let his contract w All My Children expire as his character Del Henry pretty much didn't have any compelling storylines. More to the aftermath, Trachta received an offer to play the role of a man w a casual "affair" over the Internet w a woman surprisingly played by his fellow BB castmate Schae Harrison (Darla) in the movie "Interlocked".
@@rtquest22 yes, Harmon had chemistry with other women but usually not with Eakes, Trachta had chemistry with Eakes _only._ But to me, WH's Thorne had more of an "attraction" chemistry than "love" chemistry with the women he was paired with, with the exception of Darla.
@@annieo6527 I think Thornes character after 2003 ran out of steam after Bobbie Eakes went to All My Children so pairing w Darla might have been the last attempt chemistry budding Bell Jr made. Everything else pretty much was about Ridge/Nick/Brooke. 🙄
It was heartbreaking how Macy kept talking about the concert, wanting to relive it over and over, as if it was the last moment of happiness she would ever have in her life. 😢 And the music cue at the end (one of the most touching ones in the show's soundtrack) where Thorne tried to convince Macy, and himself, that they were "only beginning", added to the poignancy of the scene.
On the other hand, I can't recall a single instance when she _did_ have any control over Thorne and Macy's relationship. She was always just passively unsupportive until this point.
@@rtquest22 that was a touching scene between them, the way Thorne was comforting Macy while still trying to process her illness and almost breaking down himself, and Macy just trying to hold on to the afterglow of the concert and downplay her fears. Great background music too!
LOL, that whole conversation is like: 😈: "Hello Stephanie Forrester, do you want to make a deal with me?" Stephanie: "Sure. Here's what I want you to do. And no, you won't get anything in return from me."
-Blake- Anthony wants Stephanie to stop her son from pursuing the woman -Blake- Anthony loves. If she doesn't, -Blake- Anthony will resort to violence.
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, I thought about that too! And of course there's James wanting to co-conspire with Stephanie about Sheila. Everyone wants Stephanie on their side whenever they're scheming.
Thorne and Macy are finally on the right track they love support each other and Macy understood the real worth of Thorne and his love for her she was willing to sacrifice her life to make him happy and she made the right decision at at the right time too which is new to her these two are finally building a real strong life together
I totally agree!! They where definately on thr right track at that time. If there is one couple who deserved to live hapilly ever after it was them! And to have their own family!❤️ but hey unfortunately that wasn’t the case😢. For me, Bobbie only had chemistry with this Thorne. So when Jeff trachta left the show, for me the character of thorne was gone.
Eric called Stephanie on the plane but not his wife....he really is something😂😂. Stephanie (Susan) looks amazing lately....she looks like she's losing weight....she really don't care nothing about Thorne😆😆....but at least Eric was there for him and Macy🤗
Anthony's complete lack of interest in the Jessica/Dylan drama, and his annoyance that Stephanie wants to talk about nothing else, is the most relatable this character has _ever_ been, or will ever be.
Right? He's been watching the show with us and wondering why in the heck is Steph even involved in what goes on with those two when there are other, more pressing matters...
@@TriniT21 I loved how he was basically telling Stephanie "no no no, keep me out of that boring storyline!" 😂 In fact, I'm sure he would commit murder just to avoid becoming a part of that story.
I have said it a hundred times.they wasted this charecter. He is way more charming and attractive than all the forrester men put together. And they make him a side character that will soon dissappear to obscurity
@@songriver1232 I feel the same way! I've written before how Brad 🔔 wasted Connor's potential and how when the character was first introduced he was clearly being set up as a leading man with the ability to drive plot and even be a VIABLE love interest for Brooke. My theory is that the introduction of James crowded out the role of Connor because they both occupied similar roles in the story (see my comment on episode 1842).
*Stephanie and Anthony negotiate plot control* It's interesting that, just before going *extremely* dark, Anthony _issues a warning._ And he doesn't do it to any of the characters directly involved, but rather to the Storyteller of the show (whom he has never met before) - as if to tell her "You have control of the plot. If you don't use that control to shape the plot in the direction *I* like, I will take control and shape the plot in a direction *you* _won't_ like." And Anthony _will_ follow through on his threat - not because Stephanie is _unable_ to stop him, but because he operates in a domain of the plot where Stephanie isn't _motivated_ to be actively involved, giving Anthony free rein. Besides, as I have said before, there is also a structural reason why Stephanie needs to stay out of Anthony's upcoming story - it is a storyline with unusually obvious archetypal "fairy tale" elements, and as such, it can't be dominated by a sensible parental figure who might solve the protagonists' problems for them prematurely. However, this is the kind of situation where Stephanie would normally "make a deal" with someone if she feels they can reach a mutually beneficial agreement. Anthony comes to her expressly to talk about Thorne and Macy, but Stephanie immediately turns the conversation in the direction of Jessica and Dylan, much to Anthony's (and our) frustration as he basically tells her "no, wrong plot, I'm not in that boring storyline, nor do I intend to be!" - but Stephanie persists until she makes Anthony reluctantly agree to talk to Sally on Stephanie's behalf. Then something very odd happens. Anthony asks for a favor in return - for Stephanie to talk to Thorne and discourage him from seeing Macy, and Stephanie _refuses,_ even as she admits to Anthony that she actually _agrees_ with his point of view. The only reason she gives for not wanting to help Anthony is that "it would only invite disaster". It is as if Stephanie, once again the Cassandra of the show, senses that Anthony is not someone you should be making deals with. So instead she just kind of _observes_ him, trying to figure him out without actually getting involved with him. And based on these observations (presumably), Stephanie will eventually be the first one to suspect Anthony's true nature.
LOVE this! It shows how much of Stephanie's storytelling energy is being siphoned away by the dreary Jessica storyline. Her focus on Jessica & Dylan is keeping her out of Thorne, Ridge and Eric's storylines.
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, Stephanie even _explicitly_ states to Anthony "my interest and my _only_ interest is Jessica" and I think "Stephanie, you need to get out more".
@@NewYorkNick0607and makes really zero senses for Stephanies character. Susan/steph can surely handle pulling the strings on multiple sls and able to handle them all. Maybe it will be not always go to her liking. But she would certainly try to get the outcome she wants. Brads writing is absolutely not paying and doing the actress and character justice and don't give her respect. It must have been so frustaring for Susan to only be in this boring sl with Jessica. Even she seems bored. Like I said yesterday, brad had to sideline and put susan/Stephanie out of every other sl, for prob up brooke/kkl and to make her more important than she was and is.
@@andream5998 I can buy that Stephanie would stay out of Thorne's storyline because it's Thorne and nobody in his family really cares what he does, but for Stephanie to stay out of Sheila's storyline, or the Princess Laila storyline? Totally out of character.
@@annieo6527 in some way I can see that, Stephanie would not interfere her with Thorne and macy. She will get involved when its about his freedom and ofc when the hoegans come along. So she does care about him, but knows it's better to keep him be, unless he is in danger or with a logan. At the moment, I can't buy it. Because sally is pissing Stephanie off, so that would be enough for the "old" Stephanie from previous season to get involved in the situation.
@@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 oh she cares about Thorne enough to keep him out of jail for shooting his bro (Altho it is more like, keeping him our of jail to keep the family name out of scandal lol), but there really hasn't been enough care on Steph's part for Thorne and Macy as a couple. She's never been invested in them lol
@@TriniT21 true - Stephanie has usually disapproved (more or less) of Thorne and Macy's marriage, without actually disliking Macy personally. So it's always been more of a passive disapproval, a kind of mindset that she'll just sit back and not offer her support and let them fall apart on their own.
@@TriniT21 🤣 Oh Trish wow! Something unrelated, you know how Eric has had a never ending midlife crisis since day 1? It hasn't gotten better for him at 80. I recently discovered that the writers are so desperately trying to make Eric and RJ (he's as goofy as Liam and Thorne) relevant. Eric is _anguished_ about putting together one last line to pay homage to his legacy. *He can't draw, he's unable to hold a pencil because he has arthritis.* So he's drawing through his grandson who has no design experience. It's like his impotence storyline from 2021 all over again 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
@@annieo6527 yip. Other than that one time she got Macy arrested for "stealing Belief" (and I wish they had solved that mystery), and then that time they had an odd party for Macy's sobriety in Thorne's office, Steph pretty much kept out of Macy's way after learning she was Sally's daughter. She always said she didn't dislike Macy personally, but she certainly wasn't going out her way to help her out either lol. Shame tho.. I figure Macy could have been a good daughter in law, so Brooke would have felt extra left out when Steph embraced every one else except her into the family lol. I guess since Thorne is persona non grata, they couldn't find many scenes for Steph and Macy to get together 🤷🏽♀️
There's already Christmas decorations at the Bikini, but the Forrester Manse is decorated in tulips like it's Easter time. Maybe to honor Thorne and Macy's Dutch concert? Naw. Maria needs to get in the attic and get on it. ☺️
That's a good observation! Maria was prob the one who put all those tulips to make Thorne feel welcome when he got home. Lawd knows nobody else is going to be rolling out the red carpet for him in that family 😂
@@TriniT21 Thanks Trish 🤗 I'm a flower freak. Sometimes I pay more attention to the floral arrangements and plants than what's going on in the show ☺️🌹🌺🌷🌸💮🏵️🌻🌼🪴🍃
@@alisonrogers4687 This one is a completely separate character from the original, whom I loved to hate! Jeff Trachta and Bobbie Eakes are cute together mainly because of their singing. In my opinion, there would've been more storyline possibilities with the first Thorne, and a more interesting dynamic in the cast as a whole.
It would probably have been a completely different show. I think they wouldn't have been able to overlook Thorne's unstable side. They did do a "chemistry test" with Clayton Norcross and Bobbie Eakes, so I assume they were already planning to explore that pairing before the recast, but it would have been a _very_ different dynamic, with Macy the strong and stable one and Thorne the weak one who needed taking care of. That whole scene between them was Thorne being awkward and apologetic while Macy's jokes flew right over his head as she was trying to cheer him up. Recasting Thorne actually changed _Macy's_ character too.
@@Esi-741the first Thorne (Clayton Norcross) wouldve been more involved in storylines w Donna Logan, Deveney Dixon (albeit stupid) and Taylor Hayes after Caroline's passing.
@@rtquest22 I don't know...I think the rivalry with Ridge would've still been a prominent part of their relationship and I'd much rather watch that than Brooke vs Taylor. Neither RM nor CN are good actors but they had chemistry and the latter portraying an unhinged Thorne added to their conflict.
@@NewYorkNick0607he's seen how Eric and Ridge dress.. And steph loves them more than popping open a bottle of champagne to celebrate getting rid of Brooke. So he figured the outfit was totally appropriate
What is it with grown men taking Jessica to the Bikini? First Ridge... She's underage, the whole controversy about her being with Dylan revolves around that. 😟
So B&B couldnt sonsult with a legal professional regarding (arrogant, entitled, man child, yucky) Dylan defense, smh, Connor as an attorney understands Jessica can't legally consent. So she insisting Dylan treatment by the judicial system is incompetent advice in the real world, fyi. 😮😮😮😮😮
So Stephanie, youre not interested in interfering in Thorne and Macy eventual renewed relationship yet doing so between Jessica / Dylan and then Ridge / Brooke (assuming Taylor comes back).
it is her duty to protect jessica and regarding Brooke any self respecting woman would never accept this trash into her life Macy is a different story the woman made mistakes but she is willing to change
She has no choice with Jessica, as a guardian legally responsible towards a minor engaging in statutory rape which is illegal. For Ridge, she should leave him be.
Thanks for the upload !! So the show just copied when Paul Williams and Family brought Lauren home after being buried alive in 1986..??. And Stephanie.. So is when one brother shoots another in the back of the head !!
"*Dylan broke the law!"* - The *law* strictly matters when it serves Stephanie and it can be bent when it involves her own family. - Thorne broke the law, when he shot his brother. - Ridge broke the law, when he had sex with his brother's wife in Thorne's bed without clear identifying himself to the woman in the dark. - Stephanie broke the law, when she hired someone to forge a letter in Eric's handwriting At other times Stephanie has been involved in at least _bending_ the rules/law - > getting Brooke to sign a backdated work contract, encouraging and helping Eric to hide his vasectomy but reminding him afterwards that it could be disastrous in a divorce if it gets revealed, pushing psychiatrists to tell her confidential patient information even if that could cost them their medical license (Jay Garvin, nowadays James).
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I love Thorn's and Macy's relationship. So much love and compassion. Too bad these actors didn't stay long in this soap. ❤
I wonder why Jeff Trachta left the show, whether he chose to leave or they chose to recast. Winsor Harmon's Thorne never really had that kind of chemistry with Macy.
@@annieo6527I think Bell Jr wanted more of s e x and/or good looks appeal and to connect w other characters romantically such as Taylor and Brooke and relive the brotherhood rivalry w Ridge and I don't think Jeff Trachta could pull it off so it was a bit good timing for Winsor Harmon to let his contract w All My Children expire as his character Del Henry pretty much didn't have any compelling storylines. More to the aftermath, Trachta received an offer to play the role of a man w a casual "affair" over the Internet w a woman surprisingly played by his fellow BB castmate Schae Harrison (Darla) in the movie "Interlocked".
@@rtquest22 yes, Harmon had chemistry with other women but usually not with Eakes, Trachta had chemistry with Eakes _only._
But to me, WH's Thorne had more of an "attraction" chemistry than "love" chemistry with the women he was paired with, with the exception of Darla.
@@annieo6527 I think Thornes character after 2003 ran out of steam after Bobbie Eakes went to All My Children so pairing w Darla might have been the last attempt chemistry budding Bell Jr made. Everything else pretty much was about Ridge/Nick/Brooke. 🙄
@@rtquest22Del Roy should have been paried up with Karen. Cindy's Twin sister who died of AIDS in 1991 Right after she married Adam ..!!
It was heartbreaking how Macy kept talking about the concert, wanting to relive it over and over, as if it was the last moment of happiness she would ever have in her life. 😢
And the music cue at the end (one of the most touching ones in the show's soundtrack) where Thorne tried to convince Macy, and himself, that they were "only beginning", added to the poignancy of the scene.
Stephanie says she has no control over Thorne and Macy’s relationship and can’t control them,please this is all you do in everyone’s life
On the other hand, I can't recall a single instance when she _did_ have any control over Thorne and Macy's relationship. She was always just passively unsupportive until this point.
@@annieo6527 So true Annie, Thorne was just treated like a gardener, Lol
Good scenes throughout this episode, especially with Sally. Her inner strength as a mother really shines through.💝
What really shines is Thorne and Macy's singing and their eventual renewed relationship.
So true! And in a way she's acting like a mother to Thorne too.
@@rtquest22 that was a touching scene between them, the way Thorne was comforting Macy while still trying to process her illness and almost breaking down himself, and Macy just trying to hold on to the afterglow of the concert and downplay her fears. Great background music too!
@@rtquest22 It is nice to see after what they went through in the past.💕
@@annieo6527 Sally has a big heart, and she's not afraid to show it 💓🌷
No doctor tells a patient they might have cancer until they have a definitive diagnosis!!!!
Sally AND Stephanie really are beautiful in this era!
Poor Macy... why dont the writers give her a litte luck... she deserves it. I hoped she gets a great star. But thorne & macy love each other ❤
Whenever you think Macy's had enough bad luck to last her a lifetime, things just keep getting _worse_ for her.
Connor's like, wait I'm defending an actual innocent person? 😄
That was hilarious! 😂
yes doing something right instead of helping bad women like Brooke and Sheila
Sharon this is genius 💯 I don't know how I missed it
He is my favourite Thorne
me too
Mine too!!❤
@@daliaelkhatib1726I Hed find and Clayton was handsome too,why did this thor e leave,may I ask?
It was cool having Anthony and Stephanie in a scene together.
Anthony views Dylan and Jessica's relationship like most of us (6:07) Good to see Steph and Anthony share the screen
Yes, Anthony Armando for once speaking for the _entire_ comments section! 😆
@@annieo6527 yes, his dress sense was a bit off today though
Me reading the episode description: "Anthony talks to WHO?!"
Looking forward to that!
LOL, that whole conversation is like:
😈: "Hello Stephanie Forrester, do you want to make a deal with me?"
Stephanie: "Sure. Here's what I want you to do. And no, you won't get anything in return from me."
-Blake- Anthony wants Stephanie to stop her son from pursuing the woman -Blake- Anthony loves. If she doesn't, -Blake- Anthony will resort to violence.
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, I thought about that too! And of course there's James wanting to co-conspire with Stephanie about Sheila. Everyone wants Stephanie on their side whenever they're scheming.
@@annieo6527if you aren't scheming with Steph Forrester, you're a nobody on this show 😂
Thorne and Macy are finally on the right track they love support each other and Macy understood the real worth of Thorne and his love for her she was willing to sacrifice her life to make him happy and she made the right decision at at the right time too which is new to her these two are finally building a real strong life together
I totally agree!! They where definately on thr right track at that time. If there is one couple who deserved to live hapilly ever after it was them! And to have their own family!❤️ but hey unfortunately that wasn’t the case😢. For me, Bobbie only had chemistry with this Thorne. So when Jeff trachta left the show, for me the character of thorne was gone.
*THORNE:* "I don't believe you!" (gets up huffily at 9:25)
_Who reacts like this_ to news from a mother that her child might have cancer?? 😵💫
Thorne's _always_ getting huffy for no reason. Someone lied to that man and told him he was cute enough to pull off brooding.
Thorne never believes anything that Sally says. 😂
@@parker341 😂
Eric called Stephanie on the plane but not his wife....he really is something😂😂. Stephanie (Susan) looks amazing lately....she looks like she's losing weight....she really don't care nothing about Thorne😆😆....but at least Eric was there for him and Macy🤗
Nice to see Michael Sabitino and Susan Flannery two former days of our lives actors now on B&B !!
Enjoy Michael here while you can.
@@kristinazubic9669He doesn't bother me..He always plays less than human characters !!
Anthony's complete lack of interest in the Jessica/Dylan drama, and his annoyance that Stephanie wants to talk about nothing else, is the most relatable this character has _ever_ been, or will ever be.
Oh he is just getting warmed up !! 😅😅
Right? He's been watching the show with us and wondering why in the heck is Steph even involved in what goes on with those two when there are other, more pressing matters...
@@TriniT21 I loved how he was basically telling Stephanie "no no no, keep me out of that boring storyline!" 😂
In fact, I'm sure he would commit murder just to avoid becoming a part of that story.
@@annieo6527 😂
@@annieo6527😂😂😂
And now Connor and Sly. Is there anyone Connor _doesn't_ have chemistry with? 😍
Connor is a human flint. Put someone close to him in a scene and you get sparks.
Karen?
@@NewYorkNick0607Oh yea he is so fine 😵😵😵
I have said it a hundred times.they wasted this charecter. He is way more charming and attractive than all the forrester men put together. And they make him a side character that will soon dissappear to obscurity
@@songriver1232 I feel the same way! I've written before how Brad 🔔 wasted Connor's potential and how when the character was first introduced he was clearly being set up as a leading man with the ability to drive plot and even be a VIABLE love interest for Brooke. My theory is that the introduction of James crowded out the role of Connor because they both occupied similar roles in the story (see my comment on episode 1842).
*Stephanie and Anthony negotiate plot control*
It's interesting that, just before going *extremely* dark, Anthony _issues a warning._ And he doesn't do it to any of the characters directly involved, but rather to the Storyteller of the show (whom he has never met before) - as if to tell her "You have control of the plot. If you don't use that control to shape the plot in the direction *I* like, I will take control and shape the plot in a direction *you* _won't_ like."
And Anthony _will_ follow through on his threat - not because Stephanie is _unable_ to stop him, but because he operates in a domain of the plot where Stephanie isn't _motivated_ to be actively involved, giving Anthony free rein.
Besides, as I have said before, there is also a structural reason why Stephanie needs to stay out of Anthony's upcoming story - it is a storyline with unusually obvious archetypal "fairy tale" elements, and as such, it can't be dominated by a sensible parental figure who might solve the protagonists' problems for them prematurely.
However, this is the kind of situation where Stephanie would normally "make a deal" with someone if she feels they can reach a mutually beneficial agreement. Anthony comes to her expressly to talk about Thorne and Macy, but Stephanie immediately turns the conversation in the direction of Jessica and Dylan, much to Anthony's (and our) frustration as he basically tells her "no, wrong plot, I'm not in that boring storyline, nor do I intend to be!" - but Stephanie persists until she makes Anthony reluctantly agree to talk to Sally on Stephanie's behalf.
Then something very odd happens. Anthony asks for a favor in return - for Stephanie to talk to Thorne and discourage him from seeing Macy, and Stephanie _refuses,_ even as she admits to Anthony that she actually _agrees_ with his point of view. The only reason she gives for not wanting to help Anthony is that "it would only invite disaster". It is as if Stephanie, once again the Cassandra of the show, senses that Anthony is not someone you should be making deals with. So instead she just kind of _observes_ him, trying to figure him out without actually getting involved with him.
And based on these observations (presumably), Stephanie will eventually be the first one to suspect Anthony's true nature.
LOVE this! It shows how much of Stephanie's storytelling energy is being siphoned away by the dreary Jessica storyline. Her focus on Jessica & Dylan is keeping her out of Thorne, Ridge and Eric's storylines.
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, Stephanie even _explicitly_ states to Anthony "my interest and my _only_ interest is Jessica" and I think "Stephanie, you need to get out more".
@@NewYorkNick0607and makes really zero senses for Stephanies character. Susan/steph can surely handle pulling the strings on multiple sls and able to handle them all. Maybe it will be not always go to her liking. But she would certainly try to get the outcome she wants.
Brads writing is absolutely not paying and doing the actress and character justice and don't give her respect. It must have been so frustaring for Susan to only be in this boring sl with Jessica. Even she seems bored.
Like I said yesterday, brad had to sideline and put susan/Stephanie out of every other sl, for prob up brooke/kkl and to make her more important than she was and is.
@@andream5998 I can buy that Stephanie would stay out of Thorne's storyline because it's Thorne and nobody in his family really cares what he does, but for Stephanie to stay out of Sheila's storyline, or the Princess Laila storyline? Totally out of character.
@@annieo6527 in some way I can see that, Stephanie would not interfere her with Thorne and macy. She will get involved when its about his freedom and ofc when the hoegans come along. So she does care about him, but knows it's better to keep him be, unless he is in danger or with a logan.
At the moment, I can't buy it. Because sally is pissing Stephanie off, so that would be enough for the "old" Stephanie from previous season to get involved in the situation.
Anthony, what Steph's really telling u is... I'm not going to get involved bc I don't really care that much about Thorne and Macy, and I never have 😂
contrary to popular belief Steph cares about Thorne more than most 😅
@@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 oh she cares about Thorne enough to keep him out of jail for shooting his bro (Altho it is more like, keeping him our of jail to keep the family name out of scandal lol), but there really hasn't been enough care on Steph's part for Thorne and Macy as a couple. She's never been invested in them lol
@@TriniT21 true - Stephanie has usually disapproved (more or less) of Thorne and Macy's marriage, without actually disliking Macy personally. So it's always been more of a passive disapproval, a kind of mindset that she'll just sit back and not offer her support and let them fall apart on their own.
@@TriniT21 🤣 Oh Trish wow! Something unrelated, you know how Eric has had a never ending midlife crisis since day 1? It hasn't gotten better for him at 80. I recently discovered that the writers are so desperately trying to make Eric and RJ (he's as goofy as Liam and Thorne) relevant. Eric is _anguished_ about putting together one last line to pay homage to his legacy. *He can't draw, he's unable to hold a pencil because he has arthritis.* So he's drawing through his grandson who has no design experience. It's like his impotence storyline from 2021 all over again 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
@@annieo6527 yip. Other than that one time she got Macy arrested for "stealing Belief" (and I wish they had solved that mystery), and then that time they had an odd party for Macy's sobriety in Thorne's office, Steph pretty much kept out of Macy's way after learning she was Sally's daughter. She always said she didn't dislike Macy personally, but she certainly wasn't going out her way to help her out either lol.
Shame tho.. I figure Macy could have been a good daughter in law, so Brooke would have felt extra left out when Steph embraced every one else except her into the family lol. I guess since Thorne is persona non grata, they couldn't find many scenes for Steph and Macy to get together 🤷🏽♀️
There's already Christmas decorations at the Bikini, but the Forrester Manse is decorated in tulips like it's Easter time. Maybe to honor Thorne and Macy's Dutch concert? Naw. Maria needs to get in the attic and get on it. ☺️
That's a good observation!
Maria was prob the one who put all those tulips to make Thorne feel welcome when he got home. Lawd knows nobody else is going to be rolling out the red carpet for him in that family 😂
@@TriniT21 aww, now I'm going to picture Maria, wearing wooden shoes, greeting Thorne with a bouquet of tulips when he comes home. ❤
@@TriniT21 Maria is so thoughtful in that way. She appreciates everyone unconditionally 🤗🏵️🌸
@@TriniT21 Thanks Trish 🤗 I'm a flower freak. Sometimes I pay more attention to the floral arrangements and plants than what's going on in the show ☺️🌹🌺🌷🌸💮🏵️🌻🌼🪴🍃
Unfortunately Stephanie doesn't know enough about Thorne to have a full on conversation about him😂.
😂 Anthony wants to talk about Thorne and Stephanie is like "Thorne? Are you sure you got the right address?"
@@annieo6527 I know right? Has the show ever really explored why she always favours Ridge? I think it might have in its early years?
She’s not ravaged by cancer Sally! Just wait for the biopsy of the pea sized growth! 😮
I wonder how different the show would've been, had Thorne #1 not been recast!
I loved that Thorne and thought I’d never like this one, But I do really like him now.
@@alisonrogers4687 This one is a completely separate character from the original, whom I loved to hate! Jeff Trachta and Bobbie Eakes are cute together mainly because of their singing. In my opinion, there would've been more storyline possibilities with the first Thorne, and a more interesting dynamic in the cast as a whole.
It would probably have been a completely different show. I think they wouldn't have been able to overlook Thorne's unstable side. They did do a "chemistry test" with Clayton Norcross and Bobbie Eakes, so I assume they were already planning to explore that pairing before the recast, but it would have been a _very_ different dynamic, with Macy the strong and stable one and Thorne the weak one who needed taking care of. That whole scene between them was Thorne being awkward and apologetic while Macy's jokes flew right over his head as she was trying to cheer him up. Recasting Thorne actually changed _Macy's_ character too.
@@Esi-741the first Thorne (Clayton Norcross) wouldve been more involved in storylines w Donna Logan, Deveney Dixon (albeit stupid) and Taylor Hayes after Caroline's passing.
@@rtquest22 I don't know...I think the rivalry with Ridge would've still been a prominent part of their relationship and I'd much rather watch that than Brooke vs Taylor. Neither RM nor CN are good actors but they had chemistry and the latter portraying an unhinged Thorne added to their conflict.
Thank you. ❤❤❤
Why do all the fashion designers dress so blandly? Anthony looks like an adjunct college professor.
Imagine going over to _Stephanie Forrester's house_ dressed like a sitcom dad.
@@NewYorkNick0607he's seen how Eric and Ridge dress.. And steph loves them more than popping open a bottle of champagne to celebrate getting rid of Brooke.
So he figured the outfit was totally appropriate
@@TriniT21 Has Anthony ever dressed like this before? Or is it just his "go visit Stephanie Forrester" outfit?
@@soft-with-edge But Eric, Ridge and Anthony NEVER dress like fashion designers. It's not just this time.
@@annieo6527 I'm thinking the same thing, Anthony usually dresses slightly better than Ridge and Eric
Why would you meet an underaged witness to discuss a case at the Bikini Bar? 🤨
See, this is what Connor means when a few months from now he will be referring to himself as a _"relatively_ respected attorney."
@@annieo6527 😂
@@NewYorkNick0607 IKR! Why not go to that coffee shop she likes?
@@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 And then Connor could have chemistry with the cute coffee guy too.
What is it with grown men taking Jessica to the Bikini? First Ridge... She's underage, the whole controversy about her being with Dylan revolves around that. 😟
So B&B couldnt sonsult with a legal professional regarding (arrogant, entitled, man child, yucky) Dylan defense, smh, Connor as an attorney understands Jessica can't legally consent. So she insisting Dylan treatment by the judicial system is incompetent advice in the real world, fyi. 😮😮😮😮😮
Stephanie and Antony first scenes ??
GOOD TO SEE SLY BACK HOW ABOUT ROCCO?
It would have been great to see Rocco show up at The Bikini and get hired by Sly. 🤗
So Stephanie, youre not interested in interfering in Thorne and Macy eventual renewed relationship yet doing so between Jessica / Dylan and then Ridge / Brooke (assuming Taylor comes back).
She never cared for what Thorne did unless it involved ridge. Or when he was involved with brooke. Otherwise his personal life means nothing to her
it is her duty to protect jessica and regarding Brooke any self respecting woman would never accept this trash into her life Macy is a different story the woman made mistakes but she is willing to change
Stephanie only interferes in Bridge and anything Eric 🙄🙄
She has no choice with Jessica, as a guardian legally responsible towards a minor engaging in statutory rape which is illegal. For Ridge, she should leave him be.
Bill never got caught for taking Macy's tape to Thorn. Thought that would result in something further but guess it was just forgotten.
Both Stephanie and Sally are wearing Outfits that suit them.
Yes, Sally always looks good in animal prints. And this is what I refer to as Stephanie's Santa outfit.
@@annieo6527 lol
This episode aired on my 25th birthday!
❤❤❤ It is good to see Macy resting!
Angel/Trinidad.
❤❤❤.
Would be nice to see Susan Flannery play Vivian Alamanie on days of our lives for once !!
❤❤❤ Take while icy Ivana! Macy needs her mister mister to fly again.
Angel/Trinidad.
❤❤❤.
Thanks for the upload !! So the show just copied when Paul Williams and Family brought Lauren home after being buried alive in 1986..??. And Stephanie.. So is when one brother shoots another in the back of the head !!
She always does and yet she says she has no control over anyone’s relationship this is all she does especially with her baby boy Ridge
@@kchellkat1847Ridge should have been stoned for what her did to Caroline In 1988 !!
@@MrCraigblaze So true,I hope you’re doing well
"*Dylan broke the law!"* - The *law* strictly matters when it serves Stephanie and it can be bent when it involves her own family.
- Thorne broke the law, when he shot his brother.
- Ridge broke the law, when he had sex with his brother's wife in Thorne's bed without clear identifying himself to the woman in the dark.
- Stephanie broke the law, when she hired someone to forge a letter in Eric's handwriting
At other times Stephanie has been involved in at least _bending_ the rules/law - > getting Brooke to sign a backdated work contract, encouraging and helping Eric to hide his vasectomy but reminding him afterwards that it could be disastrous in a divorce if it gets revealed, pushing psychiatrists to tell her confidential patient information even if that could cost them their medical license (Jay Garvin, nowadays James).
@@mara4450 Exactly, I know they couldn’t pay me enough to live with them