They are re-making each classic set into a smaller version while also increasing the prices. This is the ultimate profit scheme for LEGO, and it’s so tiring.
PPP is the same it has been for the past 20 years. This one is $0.14 PPP. People ask for better detail, they make better detail, then people cry about it for other reasons. There
I honestly wouldn't complain as much about the price increases if the designs were always getting better, but it's just downgrades left and right. The minifigs aren't bad here, but nothing really feels too special either.
Genuinely think we're getting to the stage where Lego Star Wars outside of battle packs is becoming unaffordable for the general consumer. The whole point of a starfighter as a kid is that you're buying another one to have a battle with, 45 dollars for a tiny jedi interceptor and 70 for the arc-170 just makes it really unaffordable for a kid to really play with them. With these prices it feels like kids are being priced out of the entire theme, why spend 45 dollars on a tiny ship when you can buy multiple video games with longer lasting value?
Kids are becoming less interested in toys now that technology does so much for them. Rather than fight that and make toys more appealing to kids, I think Lego are trying to benefit from the growing demographic that is adult fans. They might not care that Lego Star Wars is not affordable for most kids if they make enough money from adults. Their original IPs like Ninjago are probably still heavily kids' sales, but Star Wars is one of their oldest themes still going, so has a lot of older fans for this strategy to work.
@@Poopustheclown bruh literally the only one of these that's ever been made before was the ARC-170, FIFTEEN years ago. The Grogu one is arguable too I guess but it was a totally different scale and half of this one's build is the pram. The home one, the acclamator, and Ahsoka's interceptor are brand new and were all highly requested by the community. This is the literal worst example you could have chosen for the "lego just makes the same thing over and over again" argument
I wouldn’t necessarily call this wave redundant. Most of the sets are vehicles from Star Wars which we either have never seen before in LEGO, or have not been made in 10+ years. The last ARC-170 released in 2009, almost 16 years ago. It’s a set that has been long asked for to be remade, so I wouldn’t say it’s completely out of left-field either. Ahsoka’s Jedi Interceptor has never been made as a set, and also includes minifigures of Ahsoka, in an outfit we haven’t seen in 10 years. The midi-scale Acclamator is a unique set of a ship we’ve never seen before in LEGO outside of polybags. The midi-scale Home-One is a set we also haven’t seen in a while, with it being 16 years since the Home-One playset released. However, the set did not represent the ship, but a hanger within it, plus the meeting room from the first act of ROTJ. While the buildable Grogu is something we have seen before, and it hasn’t been too long since it retired, (about a year) it is unique in the fact where it isn’t just a statue of Grogu, as it includes the pram, and is at a completely different scale. The 4+ N-1 Starfighter, while being released at the same time as the play-scale version, is obviously not intended as a “remake” of the set, but rather a version of the ship for much younger audiences. While value-wise, the wave sure is questionable, it’s far from redundant. Constant remakes aren’t even unique to just Star Wars. Take themes like Harry Potter, or LEGO City for example. I don’t necessarily view remakes as a bad thing, either.
100%. No other theme is this overpriced. LEGO is expensive generally, but at least normally it’s consistent with inflation and set size. LEGO Star Wars is not at all fairly priced. I would love all of these sets if I didn’t feel like I was getting scammed buying it. But that doesn’t stop people from making purchases regardless 🤷♂️
Makes me wonder if the sales prices they offer on like May 4, BF, Boxing Day, Amazon Sales, etc. are what the actual prices should be, because the market for LEGO Star Wars has grown and LEGO knows people will pay high prices on Day 1, they inflate the cost.
I like the overall build of the ARC 170 but there are some parts that are lacking. The guns are definitely too small. The 2010 ones felt so right with how beefy they were because this is supposed to be a heavy fighter bomber craft. It looks good but needs some modifying to be perfect IMO
Man I feel old. Back in the day I remember buying 8088, the last ARC 170 and was thinking of returning it because the $60 price was high. I was just a poor HS student. Now I have an actual career and I still think the new one is overpriced. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
At the time I felt the same way, and it was one of the last Legos I considered before stopping completely. I ended up not getting it and it's a regret I still have
If it makes you feel better, if you adjust for inflation to get a fair comparison, the old ARC-170 costed $87 and had 101 less pieces than the new one. So compared to the old set, this one is $17 cheaper while having 25% more pieces.
Eh I don’t think the last one was overpriced. It was a pretty big set but flimsy around the wings and you got Kit Fisto. That’s what a triple A game was for the longest time. Halo Reach, Black Ops, New Vegas etc. These days you get a game and it’s $70 while it’s broken and unfinished. Lego seems to be the same way in a sense that you’re paying more for less in many aspects
The new one is $17 cheaper than the inflation adjusted price of the 2010 model, has 101 more pieces, better minifigs, and more detail. You are choosing to deny facts in order to fit your narrative.
Lego, If you are going to charge an astronomical price for the sets, that's fine. BUT don't make them so dang small, give us something for our money, and more minifigs! I have no clue how they miss adding an exclusive minifigure to each Midi-set, it's truly mind-boggling
Most if not all of the mini scale sets are based off past, present, or future UCS scale sets and play scale sets. The adult market for mini scale sets is super hot because they look amazing but don't take up space. UCS sets look amazing but take up too much space and play sale sets are marketed for kids and look the worst in my opinion
Why would they add exclusive minifigs? They never did that before, they're not playsets and doing that would raise the price even more. Minifigs go straight to the bin anyway.
Leia with Tantive IV, Ackbar with Home One, Grievous with Invisible Hand, it's like they even chose the ships deliberately somewhere down the line to be perfect for the most desirable minifigures, but then didn't include them!! It's infuriating, they'd be absolutely printing money!
"$70 does not feel outrageous." Perhaps by the inflated standards of Lego Star Wars, but to me, it's pretty crazy for fewer than 500 pieces. I recently bought a Funwhole set (with lights) that was around the same price for over 1,800 pieces and a Pantasy set with 3,000 pieces for not much more. (In fairness, those included discounts, but since their sets are discounted or have promo codes pretty much year round, I treat those as the MSRP's.)
You can get discounted Lego in a ton of places too (even brand new sets), so why are you counting discounts and coupons for 1 side but not the other? That seems extremely disingenuous.
Right, Lego is becoming their own worst enemy while everyone else catches up and Cobi surpasses them in that niche. I can't see how Lego's trajectory is sustainable long term.
All the midi scale ships last year were a roaring success, with excellent prices. As a community we asked for more. In response to our enthusiasm, Lego has now ruined the line by inflating all the prices massively for even smaller models. Hooray.
These prices in general are getting absolutely ridiculous. The only set that doesn't feel completely overpriced is the grogu set, cuz at least that thing has over 1000 pieces and some pretty big ones aswell. Which makes the prices for the other sets, especially the midi-scale ones, feel even more absurd. If the grogu can be sold at a 10c/piece ratio, with big pieces, printed parts, and even a minifigure, what is the reasonable justification for the midi scale sets being so above in the PPP ratio, even though they use only very tiny pieces, don't have minifigures at all...? (It's a rhetorical question, the answer is obviously because they know they can charge these prices and keep getting away with it.) LEGO has always been expensive, as Jang says, but it just seems like their only priority, their single objective nowadays, is maximizing the corporate profit margin above everything else, with complete disregard to respecting consumers, whom, may I recall, saved them from bankruptcy in the early 2000s. Sadly, LEGO seems to have unlearned the first thing about gratitude, and it still has this market cornered, and until such a time comes when we have more healthy competition in this segment, things are only going to get worse and worse. What a shame.
So true. You could remove 80% of the pieces from the marvel logo and still have a perfectly displayable marvel logo, the box shape is such a waste of pieces, probably only done so they can give it a higher price tag.
It is weird on multiple levels. Even if it was a full scale set, why come out in June, apart from it’s counterpart arc-170 in January? So that is why I suspect the ahsoka starfighter set was supposed to be Plo Koon’s starfighter, but either due to the piece decrease or some stupid idea that ahsoka is more popular to kids than revenge of the sith, its spot was taken
The ARC170 is a massive disappointment, very little value. It could've been better if it had a tiny side build to make up for the price. Given that it's basically just a slightly bigger X wing with 3 figures $70 is crazy. This wave of Lego sets is just them doubling down on their ridiculous prices.
Its $0.14 Per peice....thats roughly the exact same PPP it has been for starwars legos for the last 20 years lol. Is this smaller than the first, yes, but this one has better detail. Fact is Lego has done an amazing job keeping prices down. If they kept up with inflation based on PPP it should be $0.20+ per peice.
Yeah it's pretty much the same as Luke's X-Wing from 2021 which was €50 back then. Same number of figures with an astromech for almost the same piece count. It's smaller in length but wider that that set I'm pretty sure although the images they give makes it look smaller all around (with no wing opening mechanism). Accounting for inflation, it would be about €60 now. So yeah they're blatantly "scamming" knowing that fans will blindly pay anything. The Horizon sets are the only things keeping me hopeful
It is completely in line with the pricing of the old arc 170. That being said I will likely be waiting for a sale, though it might be awhile with a set this in-demand
I don’t understand the hate with the ARC 170. It released a decade ago at $60 with 101 less pieces than the new one. A decade later a new one comes out with 100 more pieces with only $10 increase. Plus the mini figs got leg printing! W in my book
Just a reminder, if we want Lego to stop overpricing everything, we need to stop buying it at the inflated prices. The company doesn't care if you're annoyed with them, as long as you keep buying from them. Vote with your wallet.
‘45 dollars, this is small’ Yeah, I’m just starting to realize how bad it is, I could get those for around 20 to 30 dollars as a child and that was CAD meaning it was less in USD That kid set being 30 dollars is also outrageous, it’s so impossibly small I wouldn’t pay more than 15 dollars for something like that
I love the midi-scale series, but man that home one is a tough pill to swallow. The acclimator is at least in a range where I can afford a little overpricing but man... these are getting ridiculous. I liked the 170 and interceptor, but there is literally no way I could afford them
3:15 yes, the movie model has this flat 'clothing iron' type of shape on the bottom of the fuselage, so it is actually accurate more or less to the movie!
I want all those plaque to be printed regardless of set price. The sticker my ucs R2 came with was bent in the box and sat with a hug crease down the middle when I attached it. So I requested a replacement.
Why does it feel like the ARC-170 is a 6+ set? (idk if that exists). It looks so toyish for a 70 euro set, i also know its a toy in itself but my point persists. While for the Acclamator, 23cm is more than 2/3rds of the Executor, thats a win in my book.
Just compare the Acclamator to the Invisible Hand... which just went on sale for $30...(original $50), it's just not worth it, unless it goes on sale too...which it should..
I'm torn on the ARC-170, I could never afford the previous models as a kid, and I can appreciate the idea of scaling it down like other recent fighter sets, but the ARC is kinda supposed to be a big fighter and this one looks kinda weird. Something about the pilots really hits a good spot for me though, really like those figures. Ahsoka's fighter looks really nice to me but is absolutely overpriced. I love that the Acclamator is getting appreciation but I'm also a hypocrite because I don't think I'd buy it, even if it was like 10-15$ cheaper.
My theory is that Ahsoka's interceptor being that price is that it is intended to go in one of those Walmart 3in1 for $50 deal packs later to drive the value. I would definitely wait and see.
@@Brickster6745 honestly it is kinda worse. If you are making the ARC-170 $70 at least put a Jedi in the set like Kit Fisto/Shaak Ti or someone else to at least make the price even slightly more stomachable.
Yes, they made an ARC170 microfighter back in the day. Woof on that Home One price. I did like seeing stud depictions of Ackbar and Hera though. Couldn't quite make out the ship in the middle, perhaps an A-wing?
Im getting the arc 170 microfighter for Christmas from ebay. The reason im getting it is 1) great microfighter that i missed buying 2) it will skyrocket in price
I think the Arc 170 foils might be opened/closed by that lever at the bottom shown in the same slide? That would automatically put it 4 steps above the original, and also explain the rather blocky underside, space for some mechanism
The Acclamator looks like a really nice and accurate build, with some interesting things going on through the center and the engines. The price is _rough_ though. For $10 less, I might've considered it, but this is not great
I don't like the look of either. The original 170 had bombastic engines, sleek wings, and very cool proportions overall, none of which are pleasing me on the new design. And I agree with Jang about the new interceptor's canopy, which looks strangely bulbous.
The ARC-170 looks not quite right to me, amd the price certainly isn't helping. Glad to see more midi scale capital ships, tho these ones specifically arent for me.
The other sets are okay priced, Grogu & pram is probably the best deal in my opinion. It is the ARC-170 and Jedi Interceptor that are bad, should have been $60 and $35 respectively.
For acclamator, i wonder if it was suppose to be a venator for $70 because we know lego determines the price first. But when 2024 come around they did the price increase and brick decrease thing, so they had to do acclamator because it is smaller than the venator both in lego and in lore
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with buying these things even at the higher prices. I realize not buying it would send a small message but that’s not realistic. Buy it, enjoy it if you’re able and give us awesome reviews. I personally don’t like the midi-scale stuff and don’t think I’ll get those two. But the rest of it is on my list to pick up.
I dropped almost 100 bucks on a 2003 Geonosian Fighter on Bricklink a few weeks back. Complete with all parts and minifigs in fairly good condition. Pricey, because it's 20 years old and old gray, plus every figure in this set was exclusive, AND it had multiple exclusive prints and rare colors, not a single sticker. The Geonosian Fighter had an MSRP of 20 USD when it released in 2003. 20 USD, for TWO decent sized builds, WITH printed pieces, with FOUR figures, two of whom were standard battle droids, but in a special color, and two of whom had unique molded heads AND leg printing. Oh, and one of them had wings as a cape, which were also printed. And sure, here I am paying for 1 for the price of 4-5 of them now, but Lego doesn't make them anymore, and let's be real, I'm partly paying for nostalgia. But come on, they're actually good. These new sets offer exactly zero of those upsides. Gosh knows when we're gonna get any AOTC thing that isn't a gunship again, anyway.
The flatness on the bottom of the arc is correct, they could have done a bit more to make it look less jagged but that's an issue with the set overall too
The Lego Disney Buildable Hei Hei set just got revealed and oh my gosh. Holy cow is that thing absolutely beautiful. The colors and pieces used are phenomenal! And the price for piece is really good! 566 pieces for $40 is really good. I gotta start being more mindful about what sets I buy. Star Wars is getting ridiculously expensive, and I can’t justify paying $45 for a starfighter and $70 for an Arc-170.
As someone who has been wanting to collect capital ships for years but doesn’t have the money/space for a massive UCS collection, the midi scale ships were a dream come true….. until I saw the prices. I got the Executor on sale at Walmart a while ago, and the only one of the second wave that I got was the Invisible Hand. The Falcon and Tantive were just too expensive for what they were. I want to get these two, but $120 for two small ish ships feel really bad.
Thank you for your reactions Jang! I love Star Wars and Lego… these prices however, they are so much ughh ☹️ I am interested in Ashoka’s interceptor, I love Clone Wars and I want it! Will wait for a sale of course, it’s the only option. I hope the new year brings more playsets and affordable options for us! Excited to see your reviews for any of these ❤️ I wish you well idk where to express this but it makes me sad that Lego won’t do any Acolyte sets or Bad Batch season 2&3. No more sequels stuff… I hope the Skeleton Crew set does well and Lego and Star Wars will wanna do stuff from the other shows :D
One flaw with the new interceptor piece is that they made it stick to the front glass piece, which should be attached to the ship and was accurately represented in previous models. A minor detail to some, but you can't say they couldn't have gotten it right.
Looks like the ARC-170 uses a sliding mechanism down at the base to make the wings pop open. Not finger hinges. That might explain some of the bulk at the bottom of the model.
The starship series has once again proven to be a great group of sets, I love both of the sets slated for the early portion of next year, and the price points are pretty nice, too all things considered. I was not expecting a home one set, and I am wonderfully surprised. I know everyone is pretty disappointed with the Arc-170, but there's some cool stuff here, and the creator sets revealed for the same time are neat, too.
7:16 I love seeing how close to spherical (or ovoid or whatever) they’re able to get using mostly rectilinear SNOT building with round slopes and angled parts! I wonder how hard it would be to separate the quarter domes and fill the gap, so that there’s room to use 2 more of them as a movable shell inside the existing shell so that it can close?
I dont even bother with new releases unless theres a nice GWP for it and I feel like spending Insiders points for a discount. Hell Iv gotten to the point where I mostly focus on retiring sets that usually are on sale periodically online pretty much everywhere. i have adapted to Lego's increasing prices by not chasing the new thing and focusing on what thing is about to leave. It has saved me so much money over the past 3-4 years when I started to buy things like this
The last ARC-170 was 2010 I actually really like the Jedi Interceptor, I don’t care that it’s small that’s fine, it’s a cool set and comes with 2 of my favorite characters
imo the new canopy piece for the ETA-2 is great, because it captures the general eggy shape of the interceptors body much better, as unlike the piece theyve used since 2005 (?) with their first attempt at the jedi interceptor, this one isnt symmetrical front to back and is far closer to how the actual canopy looks, with a bigger slope towards the front and a rounder bum end, the price is bloody outrageous tho, charging 45 bucks for a 25-30 dollar set is ridiculous
the arc actually seems to have a mechanism for the flaps to open, a small technic piece at the bottom that you can push (you can see the arrow oj the box art)
Acclamator seems on par with the Invisible Hand so not too bad. Home One for $70 is crazy though when you consider the Falcon for $85 gets you an extra 300 pieces with a slew of prints.
The front shaping for the ARC-170 is so so sooo good. Looks great to me. Anakin in Ahsoka’s Interceptor looks so boring and plain, his Clone Wars getup is literally red and blue and I see neither of those colours there.
We need a competitor brand to get ahold of some big IPs like Star Wars so they can actually take Lego down a notch. The only reason Lego is able to maintain its hold as the top building block brand despite being too expensive for most of its own customers is because they have a monopoly on all the biggest brands and IPs. If other competitors managed to get some of those big IPs then Lego would be forced to play more fair in order to not be undercut by other companies selling the same things for better value.
I spent 160 to get the Mega GI Joe set and the Fallout set. I'm in no position to judge. If it's what you want,it's fine. Just make sure you know it's something you want,you've made space for it,and you're ready to put it up.
Last ARC-170 was in 2010 with 2005 the set before that. A fan of the 170, I'll end up getting this one. Just over 100 more pieces than the last sets plus new minifigures. Not sure how they made it smaller with the incteased piece count. Disappointed on the wingtip cannons not being true to the original design and wings/ s-foils should be longer to the overall proportions. But just my two cents to throw into the comments. 😊
ARC-170 is one of my favourite ships in Star Wars. I am really happy to be getting a new one, and I'm happy that it is less than $100. But I agree. It doesn't hit as much as I would expect from a ship that I love so much. Something is off about the shape
I have a feeling the Acclamator might be more or less the same size as the 2022 Obi Wan starfighter....which considering the price difference is absolutely wild.
Crazy how people aren’t super dissatisfied with the ARC-170 at .14/piece but outrageously furious at the interceptor’s .15/piece. I know piece count isn’t everything because size/mass is also an important metric, but frankly the 170 doesn’t appear twice as large as the interceptor, I think a good amount of price went into those pilot helmets. Whereas the CW we Ahsoka is a fantastic print and getting an astromech and Anakin on top is nice
Haha! That Grogu looks very Gizmo/Furby-esque lol Especially the mouth. Acclamator is... kinda dissapointing to me. I was very happy and excited to hear they finally made one, but then I looked at pictures, and the profile was all kinds of wrong. Midi-scale ships aren't always accurate (Executor was very fat for instance), but I wish it was a bit better.
That astromech is a remake, actually. That being said I plan on getting this set for R4-P44 as well. Landing gear is not necessary but would be a nice inclusion. Over all the arc 170 should probably be 50 60 dollars; However, 70 is not bad due to the 2011 set being 60 back then.
Finally LEGO makes the Home One! One of my favorite ships! $70?! It's the same price as the Executor, which is ridiculous. The Executioner has 630 pieces vs Home One's 559, and is 17 inches long and 7 inches wide, while Home One is only 13 inches long and 5.5 inches wide. How does LEGO justify this?!
The star wars ship models are such a neat idea, but the prices on them are rough. Im not as into lego or star wars as I once was, but Im also not the biggest fan of licensed minifigures (I generally prefer original characters to superdeforming existing characters). In another life these ships could have been right up my alley.
The midi-scale Starships could work if they hit the same price-point ($30) as the smaller Botanical sets Lego is doing now with the Chrysanthemum, Plum Blossom etc. but instead they are priced where you could buy so many other bigger sets or a handful of sets at that $70 and get way more for your money. They both hit the mark and also completely missed it. It's just ridiculous what Lego expects people to pay for these tiny little sets nowadays.
I think I want the Home one, it would make one great companion for the Executor. And perhaps the new Ducati Panigale motorcycle? I have the small Panigale but the new bit one just looks sooo good.
They are re-making each classic set into a smaller version while also increasing the prices. This is the ultimate profit scheme for LEGO, and it’s so tiring.
PPP is the same it has been for the past 20 years. This one is $0.14 PPP.
People ask for better detail, they make better detail, then people cry about it for other reasons. There
The last 3 years have been a slug fest. Kinda over the SW theme for a bit. Even the Ideas sets are creeping into this territory. Wild.
Sames things again and again and again for higher prices. I used to collect Lego Star Wars, but Lego drove me away from it :(
@@andrewgus8763 i absolutely agree, the sets are getting downscaled and the prices are going up
I honestly wouldn't complain as much about the price increases if the designs were always getting better, but it's just downgrades left and right. The minifigs aren't bad here, but nothing really feels too special either.
Genuinely think we're getting to the stage where Lego Star Wars outside of battle packs is becoming unaffordable for the general consumer. The whole point of a starfighter as a kid is that you're buying another one to have a battle with, 45 dollars for a tiny jedi interceptor and 70 for the arc-170 just makes it really unaffordable for a kid to really play with them. With these prices it feels like kids are being priced out of the entire theme, why spend 45 dollars on a tiny ship when you can buy multiple video games with longer lasting value?
It's been that way for a while, they even inflate the prices of 4+ sets. Lego is for rich AFOLs now, not kids.
I know, both together would be 115 CRAZY!!! 😠
Kids are becoming less interested in toys now that technology does so much for them. Rather than fight that and make toys more appealing to kids, I think Lego are trying to benefit from the growing demographic that is adult fans. They might not care that Lego Star Wars is not affordable for most kids if they make enough money from adults.
Their original IPs like Ninjago are probably still heavily kids' sales, but Star Wars is one of their oldest themes still going, so has a lot of older fans for this strategy to work.
I swear Lego Star Wars has become a crash course in product redundancy
What do you mean three Jedi Starfighters in the same color is redundant?
How so?
@@Poopustheclown bruh literally the only one of these that's ever been made before was the ARC-170, FIFTEEN years ago. The Grogu one is arguable too I guess but it was a totally different scale and half of this one's build is the pram. The home one, the acclamator, and Ahsoka's interceptor are brand new and were all highly requested by the community. This is the literal worst example you could have chosen for the "lego just makes the same thing over and over again" argument
I wouldn’t necessarily call this wave redundant. Most of the sets are vehicles from Star Wars which we either have never seen before in LEGO, or have not been made in 10+ years.
The last ARC-170 released in 2009, almost 16 years ago. It’s a set that has been long asked for to be remade, so I wouldn’t say it’s completely out of left-field either.
Ahsoka’s Jedi Interceptor has never been made as a set, and also includes minifigures of Ahsoka, in an outfit we haven’t seen in 10 years.
The midi-scale Acclamator is a unique set of a ship we’ve never seen before in LEGO outside of polybags.
The midi-scale Home-One is a set we also haven’t seen in a while, with it being 16 years since the Home-One playset released. However, the set did not represent the ship, but a hanger within it, plus the meeting room from the first act of ROTJ.
While the buildable Grogu is something we have seen before, and it hasn’t been too long since it retired, (about a year) it is unique in the fact where it isn’t just a statue of Grogu, as it includes the pram, and is at a completely different scale.
The 4+ N-1 Starfighter, while being released at the same time as the play-scale version, is obviously not intended as a “remake” of the set, but rather a version of the ship for much younger audiences.
While value-wise, the wave sure is questionable, it’s far from redundant. Constant remakes aren’t even unique to just Star Wars. Take themes like Harry Potter, or LEGO City for example. I don’t necessarily view remakes as a bad thing, either.
Idk I’m excited I missed the first Ashoka starship
The Star Wars Tax is worse than inflation. Almost everything is 5-15 bucks over.
the ahsoka interceptor is genuinely at least 20 over
100%. No other theme is this overpriced. LEGO is expensive generally, but at least normally it’s consistent with inflation and set size. LEGO Star Wars is not at all fairly priced. I would love all of these sets if I didn’t feel like I was getting scammed buying it. But that doesn’t stop people from making purchases regardless 🤷♂️
Blame scalpers
Makes me wonder if the sales prices they offer on like May 4, BF, Boxing Day, Amazon Sales, etc. are what the actual prices should be, because the market for LEGO Star Wars has grown and LEGO knows people will pay high prices on Day 1, they inflate the cost.
The tax has always been a crux. These days, it's mainly just Lego testing the waters. See how much folks are willing to pay despite protesting online.
I like the overall build of the ARC 170 but there are some parts that are lacking. The guns are definitely too small. The 2010 ones felt so right with how beefy they were because this is supposed to be a heavy fighter bomber craft. It looks good but needs some modifying to be perfect IMO
It looks more accurate to the screen version funnily enough but I agree old version looked and felt better
100%, I’ll be ordering the parts for the 2010 model’s guns & engines and Frankensteining them onto the new one
Yes the guns look weak and terrible
Yeah, if the guns weren't so chibi-looking I'd be a good bit less harsh on it.
Oh,yeah,I remember seeing that one and wanted it so much,but never got it. So it's been 14+ years then since we had a Arc-170. 😳
Man I feel old. Back in the day I remember buying 8088, the last ARC 170 and was thinking of returning it because the $60 price was high. I was just a poor HS student. Now I have an actual career and I still think the new one is overpriced. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Yeah but inflation does effect things
At the time I felt the same way, and it was one of the last Legos I considered before stopping completely. I ended up not getting it and it's a regret I still have
If it makes you feel better, if you adjust for inflation to get a fair comparison, the old ARC-170 costed $87 and had 101 less pieces than the new one. So compared to the old set, this one is $17 cheaper while having 25% more pieces.
Eh I don’t think the last one was overpriced. It was a pretty big set but flimsy around the wings and you got Kit Fisto. That’s what a triple A game was for the longest time. Halo Reach, Black Ops, New Vegas etc. These days you get a game and it’s $70 while it’s broken and unfinished. Lego seems to be the same way in a sense that you’re paying more for less in many aspects
The new one is $17 cheaper than the inflation adjusted price of the 2010 model, has 101 more pieces, better minifigs, and more detail. You are choosing to deny facts in order to fit your narrative.
Lego, If you are going to charge an astronomical price for the sets, that's fine. BUT don't make them so dang small, give us something for our money, and more minifigs! I have no clue how they miss adding an exclusive minifigure to each Midi-set, it's truly mind-boggling
Most if not all of the mini scale sets are based off past, present, or future UCS scale sets and play scale sets. The adult market for mini scale sets is super hot because they look amazing but don't take up space. UCS sets look amazing but take up too much space and play sale sets are marketed for kids and look the worst in my opinion
And take cuts to max profits, such as low qaulity figures, overpriced sets and ignoring fans or lore detail
Why would they add exclusive minifigs? They never did that before, they're not playsets and doing that would raise the price even more. Minifigs go straight to the bin anyway.
Leia with Tantive IV, Ackbar with Home One, Grievous with Invisible Hand, it's like they even chose the ships deliberately somewhere down the line to be perfect for the most desirable minifigures, but then didn't include them!! It's infuriating, they'd be absolutely printing money!
"$70 does not feel outrageous." Perhaps by the inflated standards of Lego Star Wars, but to me, it's pretty crazy for fewer than 500 pieces. I recently bought a Funwhole set (with lights) that was around the same price for over 1,800 pieces and a Pantasy set with 3,000 pieces for not much more. (In fairness, those included discounts, but since their sets are discounted or have promo codes pretty much year round, I treat those as the MSRP's.)
I think he said that because the last ARC-170 was $60 for 396 pieces and same number of minifigs, which is a little over $85 today.
You can get discounted Lego in a ton of places too (even brand new sets), so why are you counting discounts and coupons for 1 side but not the other? That seems extremely disingenuous.
Right, Lego is becoming their own worst enemy while everyone else catches up and Cobi surpasses them in that niche. I can't see how Lego's trajectory is sustainable long term.
The old one would be $87 this year. This one feel like it is acceptable for the price
It’s getting out of hand.
All the midi scale ships last year were a roaring success, with excellent prices. As a community we asked for more. In response to our enthusiasm, Lego has now ruined the line by inflating all the prices massively for even smaller models. Hooray.
Idk man I think all midi scale sets where overpriced.
These prices in general are getting absolutely ridiculous. The only set that doesn't feel completely overpriced is the grogu set, cuz at least that thing has over 1000 pieces and some pretty big ones aswell. Which makes the prices for the other sets, especially the midi-scale ones, feel even more absurd. If the grogu can be sold at a 10c/piece ratio, with big pieces, printed parts, and even a minifigure, what is the reasonable justification for the midi scale sets being so above in the PPP ratio, even though they use only very tiny pieces, don't have minifigures at all...? (It's a rhetorical question, the answer is obviously because they know they can charge these prices and keep getting away with it.) LEGO has always been expensive, as Jang says, but it just seems like their only priority, their single objective nowadays, is maximizing the corporate profit margin above everything else, with complete disregard to respecting consumers, whom, may I recall, saved them from bankruptcy in the early 2000s. Sadly, LEGO seems to have unlearned the first thing about gratitude, and it still has this market cornered, and until such a time comes when we have more healthy competition in this segment, things are only going to get worse and worse. What a shame.
Based comment. My thoughts exactly.
The brickbuilt Grogu feels like a waaay better deal than the Marvel sign. Crazy how similar part counts can have such a massive difference of impact.
So true. You could remove 80% of the pieces from the marvel logo and still have a perfectly displayable marvel logo, the box shape is such a waste of pieces, probably only done so they can give it a higher price tag.
For 70, Plo Koon should have come in the ARC-170 instead of a random microfighter
It is weird on multiple levels. Even if it was a full scale set, why come out in June, apart from it’s counterpart arc-170 in January? So that is why I suspect the ahsoka starfighter set was supposed to be Plo Koon’s starfighter, but either due to the piece decrease or some stupid idea that ahsoka is more popular to kids than revenge of the sith, its spot was taken
For exactly double the price the could have gone the X-Wing/TIE fighter or E-Wing/Shin Hati route.
No a seprate set
The ARC170 is a massive disappointment, very little value. It could've been better if it had a tiny side build to make up for the price. Given that it's basically just a slightly bigger X wing with 3 figures $70 is crazy. This wave of Lego sets is just them doubling down on their ridiculous prices.
Its $0.14 Per peice....thats roughly the exact same PPP it has been for starwars legos for the last 20 years lol.
Is this smaller than the first, yes, but this one has better detail.
Fact is Lego has done an amazing job keeping prices down. If they kept up with inflation based on PPP it should be $0.20+ per peice.
What would the side build be? Vulture droid?
Yeah it's pretty much the same as Luke's X-Wing from 2021 which was €50 back then. Same number of figures with an astromech for almost the same piece count. It's smaller in length but wider that that set I'm pretty sure although the images they give makes it look smaller all around (with no wing opening mechanism). Accounting for inflation, it would be about €60 now. So yeah they're blatantly "scamming" knowing that fans will blindly pay anything. The Horizon sets are the only things keeping me hopeful
Prices are rough.
That reaction to the acclimator next to the hand 😂
Home One is the same size as the Invisible Hand, same part count, for $20 more. Insane
70 for 500 pieces
I can't believe how bad it looks, the older one is much much better. It's so tiny and just for that price really?!
I’d pay £45 for it
It is completely in line with the pricing of the old arc 170. That being said I will likely be waiting for a sale, though it might be awhile with a set this in-demand
Give em a few years, it'll be $500 for 70 pieces...
And whats worse is that the ship could have half the pieces.. they use tiny pieces to inflate the price.
9:50 "I think this is gonna feel like not as bad as a value.. Oh nevermind"
I don’t understand the hate with the ARC 170. It released a decade ago at $60 with 101 less pieces than the new one. A decade later a new one comes out with 100 more pieces with only $10 increase. Plus the mini figs got leg printing! W in my book
Just a reminder, if we want Lego to stop overpricing everything, we need to stop buying it at the inflated prices. The company doesn't care if you're annoyed with them, as long as you keep buying from them. Vote with your wallet.
‘45 dollars, this is small’
Yeah, I’m just starting to realize how bad it is, I could get those for around 20 to 30 dollars as a child and that was CAD meaning it was less in USD
That kid set being 30 dollars is also outrageous, it’s so impossibly small I wouldn’t pay more than 15 dollars for something like that
The blue builds on the Grogu set are the blue macaroons he eats and vomits up again.
To quote that rebel pilot from the Empire strikes back ‘$70 for a star fighter?!’
😂
I love the midi-scale series, but man that home one is a tough pill to swallow. The acclimator is at least in a range where I can afford a little overpricing but man... these are getting ridiculous. I liked the 170 and interceptor, but there is literally no way I could afford them
3:15 yes, the movie model has this flat 'clothing iron' type of shape on the bottom of the fuselage, so it is actually accurate more or less to the movie!
I want all those plaque to be printed regardless of set price. The sticker my ucs R2 came with was bent in the box and sat with a hug crease down the middle when I attached it. So I requested a replacement.
The ARC-170 does seem to have a mechanism for the S-foils, there's a bar on the bottom that moves across, you can see it at 1:38
Why does it feel like the ARC-170 is a 6+ set? (idk if that exists). It looks so toyish for a 70 euro set, i also know its a toy in itself but my point persists.
While for the Acclamator, 23cm is more than 2/3rds of the Executor, thats a win in my book.
Happy to see more mid scale capital ships but I don't love how the home one and acclamator look
Just compare the Acclamator to the Invisible Hand... which just went on sale for $30...(original $50), it's just not worth it, unless it goes on sale too...which it should..
Lego really cannot hit recently. These kits are extremely mediocre--and it's not like the price is lower to compensate.
I'm torn on the ARC-170, I could never afford the previous models as a kid, and I can appreciate the idea of scaling it down like other recent fighter sets, but the ARC is kinda supposed to be a big fighter and this one looks kinda weird. Something about the pilots really hits a good spot for me though, really like those figures. Ahsoka's fighter looks really nice to me but is absolutely overpriced. I love that the Acclamator is getting appreciation but I'm also a hypocrite because I don't think I'd buy it, even if it was like 10-15$ cheaper.
My theory is that Ahsoka's interceptor being that price is that it is intended to go in one of those Walmart 3in1 for $50 deal packs later to drive the value. I would definitely wait and see.
Man that ARC-170 takes me back to my childhood. I got one for christmas in like 2004 or something. Its still in my attic somewhere
I'm glad the arc170 doesn't have a jedi like kit fisto cause then people could make the childish argument of "Lego's pay walling a named character."
But he comes in the microfighter so there is no paywall
I'm glad just because I don't like to put Jedi in not jedi Starfighter.
It would have been cool to have him as extra figure, but whatever
@@Brickster6745 honestly it is kinda worse. If you are making the ARC-170 $70 at least put a Jedi in the set like Kit Fisto/Shaak Ti or someone else to at least make the price even slightly more stomachable.
Jang actully cried, seeing the price on the Star Cruiser. This is most peoples sentiments now a days. Lego has great plastic but criminal prices.
Some of these prices are nuts.
Yes, they made an ARC170 microfighter back in the day. Woof on that Home One price. I did like seeing stud depictions of Ackbar and Hera though. Couldn't quite make out the ship in the middle, perhaps an A-wing?
Im getting the arc 170 microfighter for Christmas from ebay. The reason im getting it is 1) great microfighter that i missed buying 2) it will skyrocket in price
I think the Arc 170 foils might be opened/closed by that lever at the bottom shown in the same slide? That would automatically put it 4 steps above the original, and also explain the rather blocky underside, space for some mechanism
The Acclamator looks like a really nice and accurate build, with some interesting things going on through the center and the engines. The price is _rough_ though. For $10 less, I might've considered it, but this is not great
And same thing with Home One🥲 It looks quite nice, but it will need a deep discount before I can even reasonably consider it
Well I mean I need to get the Home One because I've been asking for a Mon Cal cruiser from Lego forever but I'm not super pleased with it.
i had the exact same reaction to the home one
The interceptor and arc 170 are really overpriced imo but the Look good
They're all overpriced except for maybe grogu and his pram.
I don't like the look of either. The original 170 had bombastic engines, sleek wings, and very cool proportions overall, none of which are pleasing me on the new design. And I agree with Jang about the new interceptor's canopy, which looks strangely bulbous.
LEGO prices are definitely way too high these days but I still like the sets regardless.
@@Ericcibricks I love the ARC 170 so I'll most likely get the set, but only with a discount
The ARC-170 looks not quite right to me, amd the price certainly isn't helping. Glad to see more midi scale capital ships, tho these ones specifically arent for me.
The other sets are okay priced, Grogu & pram is probably the best deal in my opinion. It is the ARC-170 and Jedi Interceptor that are bad, should have been $60 and $35 respectively.
For acclamator, i wonder if it was suppose to be a venator for $70 because we know lego determines the price first. But when 2024 come around they did the price increase and brick decrease thing, so they had to do acclamator because it is smaller than the venator both in lego and in lore
I wonder if the prices are from Disney gouging them with the license because outside of LEGO the brand is pretty much worthless.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with buying these things even at the higher prices. I realize not buying it would send a small message but that’s not realistic. Buy it, enjoy it if you’re able and give us awesome reviews. I personally don’t like the midi-scale stuff and don’t think I’ll get those two. But the rest of it is on my list to pick up.
Everyone needs to go to Lego customer service and ask them to reduce the Ashoka Jedi star fighter price to $30.00 (with the hope of lowering it to 35)
I have submitted my customer service question.
The new Marvel sets are overpriced. Star Wars: “Hold my brick”.
I dropped almost 100 bucks on a 2003 Geonosian Fighter on Bricklink a few weeks back. Complete with all parts and minifigs in fairly good condition. Pricey, because it's 20 years old and old gray, plus every figure in this set was exclusive, AND it had multiple exclusive prints and rare colors, not a single sticker.
The Geonosian Fighter had an MSRP of 20 USD when it released in 2003.
20 USD, for TWO decent sized builds, WITH printed pieces, with FOUR figures, two of whom were standard battle droids, but in a special color, and two of whom had unique molded heads AND leg printing. Oh, and one of them had wings as a cape, which were also printed.
And sure, here I am paying for 1 for the price of 4-5 of them now, but Lego doesn't make them anymore, and let's be real, I'm partly paying for nostalgia. But come on, they're actually good.
These new sets offer exactly zero of those upsides.
Gosh knows when we're gonna get any AOTC thing that isn't a gunship again, anyway.
The flatness on the bottom of the arc is correct, they could have done a bit more to make it look less jagged but that's an issue with the set overall too
The Lego Disney Buildable Hei Hei set just got revealed and oh my gosh. Holy cow is that thing absolutely beautiful. The colors and pieces used are phenomenal! And the price for piece is really good! 566 pieces for $40 is really good. I gotta start being more mindful about what sets I buy. Star Wars is getting ridiculously expensive, and I can’t justify paying $45 for a starfighter and $70 for an Arc-170.
As someone who has been wanting to collect capital ships for years but doesn’t have the money/space for a massive UCS collection, the midi scale ships were a dream come true….. until I saw the prices. I got the Executor on sale at Walmart a while ago, and the only one of the second wave that I got was the Invisible Hand. The Falcon and Tantive were just too expensive for what they were.
I want to get these two, but $120 for two small ish ships feel really bad.
Thank you for your reactions Jang! I love Star Wars and Lego… these prices however, they are so much ughh ☹️ I am interested in Ashoka’s interceptor, I love Clone Wars and I want it! Will wait for a sale of course, it’s the only option. I hope the new year brings more playsets and affordable options for us! Excited to see your reviews for any of these ❤️ I wish you well
idk where to express this but it makes me sad that Lego won’t do any Acolyte sets or Bad Batch season 2&3. No more sequels stuff… I hope the Skeleton Crew set does well and Lego and Star Wars will wanna do stuff from the other shows :D
One flaw with the new interceptor piece is that they made it stick to the front glass piece, which should be attached to the ship and was accurately represented in previous models. A minor detail to some, but you can't say they couldn't have gotten it right.
Good to see the arc 170 has been working out and keeping his form in check
Looks like the ARC-170 uses a sliding mechanism down at the base to make the wings pop open. Not finger hinges. That might explain some of the bulk at the bottom of the model.
The starship series has once again proven to be a great group of sets, I love both of the sets slated for the early portion of next year, and the price points are pretty nice, too all things considered. I was not expecting a home one set, and I am wonderfully surprised.
I know everyone is pretty disappointed with the Arc-170, but there's some cool stuff here, and the creator sets revealed for the same time are neat, too.
Yeah, on second glance, the prices are still quite rough, but I've enjoyed each starship collection set, so I still look forward to these 2
Downsize the toys, raise the price, I’ll pass
7:16 I love seeing how close to spherical (or ovoid or whatever) they’re able to get using mostly rectilinear SNOT building with round slopes and angled parts!
I wonder how hard it would be to separate the quarter domes and fill the gap, so that there’s room to use 2 more of them as a movable shell inside the existing shell so that it can close?
I dont even bother with new releases unless theres a nice GWP for it and I feel like spending Insiders points for a discount. Hell Iv gotten to the point where I mostly focus on retiring sets that usually are on sale periodically online pretty much everywhere. i have adapted to Lego's increasing prices by not chasing the new thing and focusing on what thing is about to leave. It has saved me so much money over the past 3-4 years when I started to buy things like this
I'm so done with Lego Star Wars. I've been steadily buying less and less because I know I'm not getting enough plastic for what I pay.
The last ARC-170 was 2010
I actually really like the Jedi Interceptor, I don’t care that it’s small that’s fine, it’s a cool set and comes with 2 of my favorite characters
The arc looks very good, I love it. I don't even mind the price because I think they did an excellent job capturing the ship.
imo the new canopy piece for the ETA-2 is great, because it captures the general eggy shape of the interceptors body much better, as unlike the piece theyve used since 2005 (?) with their first attempt at the jedi interceptor, this one isnt symmetrical front to back and is far closer to how the actual canopy looks, with a bigger slope towards the front and a rounder bum end, the price is bloody outrageous tho, charging 45 bucks for a 25-30 dollar set is ridiculous
the arc actually seems to have a mechanism for the flaps to open, a small technic piece at the bottom that you can push (you can see the arrow oj the box art)
Acclamator seems on par with the Invisible Hand so not too bad. Home One for $70 is crazy though when you consider the Falcon for $85 gets you an extra 300 pieces with a slew of prints.
The front shaping for the ARC-170 is so so sooo good. Looks great to me. Anakin in Ahsoka’s Interceptor looks so boring and plain, his Clone Wars getup is literally red and blue and I see neither of those colours there.
He had ditched the armor for the robes at this point, but yeah, that would be a nice figure to have.
Considering the Interceptor is from one of the later seasons of TCW, his outfit is actually pretty accurate.
acclamator I'm ok with - on par with other MIDI ships. Home one first impression - makes me want a Battlestar Galactica
Def gonna pick these up on sale, full price for those are crazy.
Wow! I really hope the acclimator and home one looks better in person after built....the prices are so ridiculous
The fact that the midi scale Home One is the same price as the Arc-170 is wild
What I like about that Arc70 is the 3 seats. I am not familiar with the ship (seen here and there) but thats cool.
We need a competitor brand to get ahold of some big IPs like Star Wars so they can actually take Lego down a notch. The only reason Lego is able to maintain its hold as the top building block brand despite being too expensive for most of its own customers is because they have a monopoly on all the biggest brands and IPs. If other competitors managed to get some of those big IPs then Lego would be forced to play more fair in order to not be undercut by other companies selling the same things for better value.
I spent 160 to get the Mega GI Joe set and the Fallout set. I'm in no position to judge. If it's what you want,it's fine. Just make sure you know it's something you want,you've made space for it,and you're ready to put it up.
I believe the blue window panels in the Home One ship represent water and not shields. Those ships are filled with water to house the mon calamari.
Last ARC-170 was in 2010 with 2005 the set before that. A fan of the 170, I'll end up getting this one. Just over 100 more pieces than the last sets plus new minifigures. Not sure how they made it smaller with the incteased piece count. Disappointed on the wingtip cannons not being true to the original design and wings/ s-foils should be longer to the overall proportions. But just my two cents to throw into the comments. 😊
ARC-170 is one of my favourite ships in Star Wars. I am really happy to be getting a new one, and I'm happy that it is less than $100. But I agree. It doesn't hit as much as I would expect from a ship that I love so much. Something is off about the shape
the gap between the two rear cockpit covers is brutal
I have a feeling the Acclamator might be more or less the same size as the 2022 Obi Wan starfighter....which considering the price difference is absolutely wild.
Are they going to make LEGO bricks edible in 2025?
Crazy how people aren’t super dissatisfied with the ARC-170 at .14/piece but outrageously furious at the interceptor’s .15/piece. I know piece count isn’t everything because size/mass is also an important metric, but frankly the 170 doesn’t appear twice as large as the interceptor, I think a good amount of price went into those pilot helmets. Whereas the CW we Ahsoka is a fantastic print and getting an astromech and Anakin on top is nice
The Arc-170 looks so beautiful 🤩😍🥲✌🏼
Haha! That Grogu looks very Gizmo/Furby-esque lol Especially the mouth.
Acclamator is... kinda dissapointing to me. I was very happy and excited to hear they finally made one, but then I looked at pictures, and the profile was all kinds of wrong. Midi-scale ships aren't always accurate (Executor was very fat for instance), but I wish it was a bit better.
Jang what price point would you consider buying and reviewing Jabba's sail badge?
Best thing to do is wait for in store discounts. 20% off would be more reasonable prices
Grogu's face keeps reminding me of a gremlin instead.. Its the mouth piece 😆
That astromech is a remake, actually. That being said I plan on getting this set for R4-P44 as well. Landing gear is not necessary but would be a nice inclusion. Over all the arc 170 should probably be 50 60 dollars; However, 70 is not bad due to the 2011 set being 60 back then.
Great video. Thank you
Finally LEGO makes the Home One! One of my favorite ships! $70?!
It's the same price as the Executor, which is ridiculous. The Executioner has 630 pieces vs Home One's 559, and is 17 inches long and 7 inches wide, while Home One is only 13 inches long and 5.5 inches wide. How does LEGO justify this?!
Respect for the honesty🙏
that arc170 is so small. 8088 looks SO much better. Glad I still have it.
The star wars ship models are such a neat idea, but the prices on them are rough. Im not as into lego or star wars as I once was, but Im also not the biggest fan of licensed minifigures (I generally prefer original characters to superdeforming existing characters). In another life these ships could have been right up my alley.
The midi-scale Starships could work if they hit the same price-point ($30) as the smaller Botanical sets Lego is doing now with the Chrysanthemum, Plum Blossom etc. but instead they are priced where you could buy so many other bigger sets or a handful of sets at that $70 and get way more for your money. They both hit the mark and also completely missed it. It's just ridiculous what Lego expects people to pay for these tiny little sets nowadays.
Interesting that one of the stud characters in Home One was Hera
"Not hitting me in the feels" felt that.
Not a single one is fairly priced
Grogu looks quite cute set
I am happy we are getting an updated ARC-170, however, it looks way too small.
I think I want the Home one, it would make one great companion for the Executor. And perhaps the new Ducati Panigale motorcycle? I have the small Panigale but the new bit one just looks sooo good.