A bit of research would be good. The HS-S have nothing to do with Schenker. The S stands for Silicon. Rory Gallagher used a TB, Downing and Tipton in Judas Priest and Brian May uses one. The only give that special tone conncted right after the guitar and i don’t know how these works on a computer amp.
Yeah the hs-s if for Blackmore’s sound not schenker. Has to be used in a soecific way to sound great, i understand why you binned it, didnt really sound the way it should be used. I got a couple of BSM pedals, they are awesome!
I've got many G&L's with MFD pickups (they've got treble bleed). Whoch one do you recommend me? Because some treble boosters sound very bright with a lot of unpleasent treble when I clean up with volume. I think BSM RW-F and AP-WA are less "trebly", or not? What are the main difference between them? (I know both of them are favorites of Bruce). Thank you!
Hey Bruce! Here is the nerd comment you asked for ;-) First: I löve the Board or Bin series. I`m a true fan!!!! Thanks for great video! Love when you old school guy play a Treblebooster! The HS-S is the BSM faithful replica version of the old Hornby Skewes Treble Booster fitted with a Silicon transistor. The proceeder was the Germanium version, which is the HS or HS-C (just with a gain "C"ontrol) from BSM. So the "S" is for Silicon, not Scorpions or Schenker :-)) Ritchie Blackmore used both of them before he in around 1974 went to the AIWA reel to reel for the same function but with a delay option. Another famous user of the Silicon version was Martin Barre from Jethro Tull with Humbucker guitars (nee nee nee ne ne ne! tschacka tschaka tschakaschak ... in the shuffling madness ...) Andy Scott from The Sweet was also a user of the Hornby Skewes thing. The AP-WA has the opportunity to have a more Schenker like Marshall tone with the switch in the up position that will cause a tighter bass response. Use the other Setting for a more fullrange Gary Moore tone. And Bruce ... you was using the lowest gain setting on the AP-WA because the gain pot works counterclockwise :-)) By accident or intended? Here a fellow playing it into a JCM800 style amp: ua-cam.com/video/luKsk2BiEUE/v-deo.html To my ears the sound in the Board or Bin video is just a bit too thin and bright than neccessary. But the mids are outstanding great!!! Here you once had a fatter sound wih the AP-WA: ua-cam.com/video/GM4ViVG912Y/v-deo.html Make sure to use a treble booster with a smooth sounding amp or if you use a plexi style amp the normal input could be your friend. Many Marshalls have a bright cap which could easily disfunctioned for the use of a treble booster. The Cut control on a good AC30 helps a lot, even if wanna use the top boost channel (and the Bass/Treble controls) to avoid to get it too bright. The great thing about those units is you can get a fat amps setting stable on the bass strings and get rid of the muddy thing, because trebleboosters are designed to cut off the low end in exactly the way, we want it. And of course you will hit the preamp very hard to get more gain out of a vintage valve amp wth the volunme pot on the guitar on full. Now, if you lower the control, you can achieve cripsy clean tones. But as you found out in the video a treble bleed control on the guitar could be too much, depending on the amp.
FWIW. I've had the HSC for a while and it also works great in the front of the Hayden Mofo 100 and the Classic Lead 80. I tested out today on a DV Mark FG 112 combo which is a bit of an unusual beast but surprisingly good. Not much use on the lead channel because that is already very overloaded anyway but with the clean channel gain up, the HSC was excellent. I put it in line with a Carl Martin Contour and Boost and that added another dimension. Just as another test, I put in my old Throbak Flash Drive which is an old booster they no longer make. This was way too powerful this the combo but works well with the valve amps of course. Strangely the HSC and the Mofo 30 don't seem to blend that well IMO but that is the nature of boost pedals and amps in my opinion and often the pedals get slagged off because they aren't matched with the right amps.
Schenker tone is more closely approximated with a wah toe down and then rolling back the tone knob on the guitar. Closest I have gotten to the old school tone.
Polentaccio Schenker did not roll down the tone and he only used the Wah Wah on certain solos from like 1977 (Lights Out) and didn’t play with it on cocked all the time like many think.
Kooper You’re wrong you can even hear him switching it on on Lights Out on Strangers In The Night. There is live footage from 75 and he doesn’t even have a Wah Wah on stage. In fact he used the Wah Wah very ocasionally in UFO. In the beginning of MSG he used it a lot on solos. Watch MSG Dortmund 1980 he has a tone that is very similar to Strangers In The Night. You can clearly see him switch it on and off. You can easily get that midrangey tone with a Flying V, a Standard (4 inputs) 50W Marshall turned up LOUD and 25W Greenbacks. Have you tried playing chords with a Wah Wah on? It sounds awful and he certainly didn’t roll back the tone.
Kooper yes and he started doing so around the Lights Out album and very sparingly. In early MSG he did it a lot and it didn’t always sound good. I’ve red he thinks so himself now.
didnt know the volume pots were subject to scrutiny, learn something everyday... That making sense sends me down the "do my amps need better pots too hole" I'll research it. I have to imagine that fender amp fender guitar you should be safe...same pots!
the hss is hornby Scewes Blackmore tone
A bit of research would be good. The HS-S have nothing to do with Schenker. The S stands for Silicon. Rory Gallagher used a TB, Downing and Tipton in Judas Priest and Brian May uses one. The only give that special tone conncted right after the guitar and i don’t know how these works on a computer amp.
My BSM HSS is the best for my plexi. Incredible. Thanks to BSM!!!!
HSS = Hornby Scewes Silicon
The HS-C is the one you want.
Yeah the hs-s if for Blackmore’s sound not schenker. Has to be used in a soecific way to sound great, i understand why you binned it, didnt really sound the way it should be used. I got a couple of BSM pedals, they are awesome!
Yep based off of the hornby skewes (hs)
Is that a bit of She Could Never Be You at 8.20? Loved those songs These treble boosters sound great. Completely agreed the second was the best!
I've got many G&L's with MFD pickups (they've got treble bleed). Whoch one do you recommend me? Because some treble boosters sound very bright with a lot of unpleasent treble when I clean up with volume. I think BSM RW-F and AP-WA are less "trebly", or not? What are the main difference between them? (I know both of them are favorites of Bruce). Thank you!
Hey Bruce! Here is the nerd comment you asked for ;-)
First: I löve the Board or Bin series. I`m a true fan!!!!
Thanks for great video! Love when you old school guy play a Treblebooster!
The HS-S is the BSM faithful replica version of the old Hornby Skewes Treble Booster fitted with a Silicon transistor. The proceeder was the Germanium version, which is the HS or HS-C (just with a gain "C"ontrol) from BSM. So the "S" is for Silicon, not Scorpions or Schenker :-))
Ritchie Blackmore used both of them before he in around 1974 went to the AIWA reel to reel for the same function but with a delay option.
Another famous user of the Silicon version was Martin Barre from Jethro Tull with Humbucker guitars (nee nee nee ne ne ne! tschacka tschaka tschakaschak ... in the shuffling madness ...)
Andy Scott from The Sweet was also a user of the Hornby Skewes thing.
The AP-WA has the opportunity to have a more Schenker like Marshall tone with the switch in the up position that will cause a tighter bass response. Use the other Setting for a more fullrange Gary Moore tone.
And Bruce ... you was using the lowest gain setting on the AP-WA because the gain pot works counterclockwise :-)) By accident or intended?
Here a fellow playing it into a JCM800 style amp: ua-cam.com/video/luKsk2BiEUE/v-deo.html
To my ears the sound in the Board or Bin video is just a bit too thin and bright than neccessary. But the mids are outstanding great!!!
Here you once had a fatter sound wih the AP-WA:
ua-cam.com/video/GM4ViVG912Y/v-deo.html
Make sure to use a treble booster with a smooth sounding amp or if you use a plexi style amp the normal input could be your friend. Many Marshalls have a bright cap which could easily disfunctioned for the use of a treble booster.
The Cut control on a good AC30 helps a lot, even if wanna use the top boost channel (and the Bass/Treble controls) to avoid to get it too bright.
The great thing about those units is you can get a fat amps setting stable on the bass strings and get rid of the muddy thing, because trebleboosters are designed to cut off the low end in exactly the way, we want it. And of course you will hit the preamp very hard to get more gain out of a vintage valve amp wth the volunme pot on the guitar on full. Now, if you lower the control, you can achieve cripsy clean tones.
But as you found out in the video a treble bleed control on the guitar could be too much, depending on the amp.
This is awesome info and its a shame I didn't get the research right on the JHS unit. Boo to me. Bruce X
@@brucedickinson7592 Hahaha. Ask me first ;-) No it`s all good. Great video!
Love it😵🥴😄😄😄yeeah👍👍👍
( Aren' t there not at least 2 Blackmore versions available one Skewer and one Aiwa Type later)..
FWIW. I've had the HSC for a while and it also works great in the front of the Hayden Mofo 100 and the Classic Lead 80. I tested out today on a DV Mark FG 112 combo which is a bit of an unusual beast but surprisingly good. Not much use on the lead channel because that is already very overloaded anyway but with the clean channel gain up, the HSC was excellent. I put it in line with a Carl Martin Contour and Boost and that added another dimension. Just as another test, I put in my old Throbak Flash Drive which is an old booster they no longer make. This was way too powerful this the combo but works well with the valve amps of course. Strangely the HSC and the Mofo 30 don't seem to blend that well IMO but that is the nature of boost pedals and amps in my opinion and often the pedals get slagged off because they aren't matched with the right amps.
Schenker tone is more closely approximated with a wah toe down and then rolling back the tone knob on the guitar. Closest I have gotten to the old school tone.
Polentaccio Schenker did not roll down the tone and he only used the Wah Wah on certain solos from like 1977 (Lights Out) and didn’t play with it on cocked all the time like many think.
Schenker is well documented saying he used the wah most of the time. If you listen to Strangers and the multitude of bootlegs available it is obvious.
Kooper You’re wrong you can even hear him switching it on on Lights Out on Strangers In The Night. There is live footage from 75 and he doesn’t even have a Wah Wah on stage. In fact he used the Wah Wah very ocasionally in UFO. In the beginning of MSG he used it a lot on solos. Watch MSG Dortmund 1980 he has a tone that is very similar to Strangers In The Night. You can clearly see him switch it on and off. You can easily get that midrangey tone with a Flying V, a Standard (4 inputs) 50W Marshall turned up LOUD and 25W Greenbacks. Have you tried playing chords with a Wah Wah on? It sounds awful and he certainly didn’t roll back the tone.
@@matsandersson8857 Agreed that he didn't use the pedal for chords. When he said "most of the time" I am sure he was talking about soloing.
Kooper yes and he started doing so around the Lights Out album and very sparingly. In early MSG he did it a lot and it didn’t always sound good. I’ve red he thinks so himself now.
Can I have some more plz! ooohhhhh you guys are too much, ya cant stop, keep it comin...
didnt know the volume pots were subject to scrutiny, learn something everyday... That making sense sends me down the "do my amps need better pots too hole" I'll research it. I have to imagine that fender amp fender guitar you should be safe...same pots!
Great demos , subscribed