5 Star Wars shows that could get me to care again
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Who says the tv shows even have to have plots? I would love to see David Attenborough do a nature documentary on the flora and fauna of the various planets from the original trilogy!
As someone who's been really enjoying Biblaridion's Alien Biospheres series, I'd _love_ for someone to do something akin to The Future Is Wild again. Alternate earth history, alien planet, speculative evolution for earth, something more magical, television adaptation of Serina: World of Birds? I'm 100% down for a documentary based on spec evo, either a nature documentary based on a snapshot of a planet, or something that tells a story of an imagined evolution.
Star Wars nature documentaries? Sure. Not quite as exciting, but I enjoyed Monster Maze's Life As A Bokoblin mockumentary, so absolutely.
David Attenborough or Werner Herzog.
"This is the mighty Sarlacc. It just kinda sits there tbh" -Space David Attenborough
I've been wanting in universe star wars documentaries for years lol.
Like I’ve always said, “Star Wars”…is a galaxy. It has ten thousand billion cultures and planets and species all co-existing together in glorious, mixed-up harmony. It has a whole bunch of incredibly amazing and imaginative and wonderful creature designs waiting to be used.
Sadly, that is not correct. Since the beginning of the history of the Star Wars galaxies, there have been wars between peoples, cultures and factions. Even in the old republic there were always civil wars for various reasons.
These are the shows I've always wanted to see personally.
1. A show about Sifo-Dyas' commissioning of the clone army.
Sifo-Dyas' role in the clone wars had been largely unexplored in the current EU, so I think he could be an interesting blank slate of a character to use to explore the events running up to the prequels in a dedicated TV series. Think of it of the prequels "Better Call Saul", exploring the transformation and eventual fate of a background character, while simultaneously filling in gaps from the prequels such as why Count Dooku turned to the dark side and how Palpatine managed to kill Plaguies and got into politics.
2. A show about a sith that turns to the light side.
Basically the Force Unleashed as a TV show. Always thought there is an over abundance of stories about jedi that turn to the dark side and not enough about sith that turn to the light, so a story about Vader's apprentice becoming disillusioned with the Empire and turning to the light has a lot of potential.
3. A show about a droid revolt.
The droids always get the short end of the stick in Star Wars, always getting abused or forced to do manual labour. It would be nice to have a show featuring all of everyone's beloved droids from the movies and TV shows take part in some kind of uprising.
4. A show about Yoda founding on the Jedi Temple.
Considering how old Yoda is supposed to be when we see him, I think it would make sense for him to have played a part in the creation of the jedi order and the building of the temple. It could also be a great opportunity to get more information about the backstory of Yoda's species and other members of his species, like Yaddle.
5. An Admiral Ackbar show.
Seriously, a show where Ackbar has his own ship and goes on space missions with a ragtag crew would be awesome! The non-human characters of Star Wars should get the spotlight more often.
These are all really good ideas. I’d also be really interested in a show about the creation of the clones. Yoda founding the Jedi order is also something I’d watch, but unfortunately Yoda lived 900 years while the Jedi Order is about 25 thousand years old. There is actually a movie in the works that’s about the founding of the Jedi order, and who knows, maybe we’ll see one of Yoda’s species (in legends there r Jedi who r from Yoda’s species). I also agree that it’d be really awesome to see space mission types of shows. Like Akbar, or even with a new cast of characters
"Jesse, we need to make spice"
"But Walt, the Pyke Syndicate has claimed a monopoly on the spice trade!"
Asajj Ventress and Ahsoka Tano have both walked away from the whole Jedi/Sith stuff. Ahsoka goes through something like you're describing in her book Ahsoka, and Asajj has been on both sides on the equation.
I thought of Ahsoka immediately too, and I think that's her character brief, but then there's the execution. I mean, Ahsoka's time in Rebels and her titular series has her behaving not worlds away from Kanan in terms of being an isolated remnant of the Jedi in the "modern" world, and then the show has her reconcile with her dead Jedi mentor and beats her into taking a new apprentice to train as a Padawan. She just has the distinction of having fallen out with the council a week before they were all killed off anyway. Her white lightsabers are big talk thematically but the fiction never backs it up IMO.
for the imperial bureaucracy show - are you familiar with Dropout's "Troopers"? it's very similar to that pitch, in a parody universe to Star Wars. it went through several reboots, first being a low budget live action, then an animated show, then a high budget live action this time with actual plot. and it was hilarious in all three iterations.
The Office but Star Wars.
Now I really want a show about a rebell spy cell maskerading as band.
Visions features a similar story
"This is Spinal Tap crossed with The Blues Brothers -- in space" is definitely something I'd watch. Star Wars or otherwise.
Directed by James Gunn
I like the idea of a focus on a band in space, like something crossed between Spinal Tap, the Monkees, and Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem. And while they have their own interesting dynamics and drama, maybe there's something very Star-Warsy happening in the background. Like, they're playing at an event and a lightsaber fight breaks out, but they just roll their eyes and keep playing anyway.
I think Ahsoka had passion behind it since Dave Filoni created or cocreated the character years ago and then became the showrunner of Ahsoka.
My pitch is more of a short film/stand-alone episode of a larger anthology series: it's basically a slasher film set in the "Star Wars" universe.
So you have a spaceship full of merchants that ferry goods from one imperial outpost to another, say a crew of around 20 or so people, almost none of them are soldiers (maybe a few guardsmen but no stormtroopers) and only a few are trained to even handle a gun. These guys aren't well protected but they don't need to be due to their frequent proximity to imperial ships that can easily fight off any would-be pirates.
One day the ship that they were delivering to has mysteriously gone dark and after several failed attempts to communicate they make port anyway. This turns out to be a grave mistake as everyone on the imperial ship has been murdered by what turns out to be a rogue Sith lord. He doesn't talk, you never see his face, you don't know ANYTHING about him. He's just going around killing everything in his wake like a madman, and he just won't stop.
The merchants try to get away but now he's on their ship, killing them all off one by one, eventually we are left with a handful of characters who try to make a get-away on a small escape vessel, but he's already there on the vessel with them! They crash land on an abandoned colony desert planet and only the final girl survives the crash, but the Sith.... is still... alive....
Our final girl runs away out into the desert where there's a raging red sand storm, she can't see anything around her -- the occasional flash of red -- the sound of a lightsaber -- a dark shape in the distance slowly approaching her -- after some minutes she makes it to an abandoned base on the planet to call for rescue, but before she can, he attacks. She eventually is able to get a lucky upper hand and uses his own lightsaber to stab him right in the head. He's finally dead.
She gets rescued, but the Sith's body (and his lightsaber) are nowhere to be found.
This is probably WAY too scary an idea for Disney to ever do, but it does have the advantage of being lightsaber violence -- thus completely devoid of blood or gore -- it would focus more instead on the building tension and the sense of unease and isolation in the middle of space.
I know you have no plans to watch Clone Wars but I'd be remiss not to mention that the character Asajj Ventress from that show is, at the current state of her arc, literally the exact "ex-Jedi and ex-Sith now a wandering unaffiliated badass annoyed by their moral compass and sick of getting dragged into people's problems" you described at the end. Like, if I didn't know any better I'd think you'd seen Clone Wars and another very recent Star Wars entry that I won't name bc spoilers and were jokingly describing her without using her name. That appearance did also possibly indicate she'll be getting her own series, but I imagine that will tie too much into Clone Wars for your liking.
I should also add that since Clone Wars is an anthology, not all the stories are particularly connected to others and many of them follow clone troopers, bounty hunters or even politicians rather than Jedi and Sith. So some of those individual stories may still be accessible to you.
The four-episode Umbara Arc in Season 4 is a fan-favourite story about a clone legion usually led by Anakin Skywalker (who treats them all as valued friends) being put under the command of a desensitized, brutish and uncaring Jedi general in Anakin's absence. The story is told from the clones' perspective, putting their Jedi leader in an antagonistic role, and exploring the individuality of the clones as they struggle amongst themselves with what it means to be a good soldier and how to deal with being treated as inferior, dispensable beings - it was definitely intended as allegorical for the Vietnam War in particular, and arguably the Battle of the Somme from WWI.
Most of the clones in the story are returning characters but their past adventures don't factor in so I imagine it's perfectly accessible to someone who hasn't seen the rest of the show, unlike The Bad Batch. Definitely worth checking out if you find the time and feel like seeing a rather unique Star Wars story. In terms of tone it was the closest thing Star Wars Canon had to Rogue One and Andor before Rogue One and Andor happened.
This all the way. Clone Wars is one of the coolest things Star Wars ever did. While it’s far from perfect (especially toward the beginning), I think it’s something that is more interesting and varied than the main Skywalker Saga series, and even the pickups of those ideas in the live action shows.
Slight spoilers for Clone Wars, but Ashoka herself could also be said to fall into this idea of a disillusioned Jedi who is similar in concept to what Vera described.
"We need to get the space-band back together!"
"It's 106 parsecs to Coruscant, we've got a full tank of coaxium, half a pack of deathsticks, the dark side is coming and we're wearing blast helmets."
I'd like a series about jedi temple library - how they aquire knowledge, do they check facts for themselves - hidden power like the librariens from The Magicians. What do they think about the field jedi, while they only train for some selfdefense.
I really thought you were gonna say “Light side, Dark side? I’m the one with the blaster.”
When you remember that Blues Brother *in the Thumbnail* dated in the Movie Princess Leia!!!
I'm sorry but The Office with space nazi callaborators is a seriously awful idea. However, consider: Parks and Rec with space Leslie Knope trying to manage a local civil service after the New Republic cleared out the Imperial presence
Space Ron Swanson.
How about a Star Wars version of The A-Team? Four Jedi cast out of the Order for crimes they didn’t commit. No, they can’t use lightsabers anymore, but you can’t take their other Force abilities from them. If you’re in trouble. If no one else can help. And if you can find them, then you might hire the J-Team!
I love the band/slice of life idea. I'm picturing it similar to the show "High Maintenance." The band serves as the connective tissue but any episode might be about the band, or it might be about a couple's day that ends with them at a cantina the band happens to be performing at in the background.
I would genuinely love an office style show. The SNL undercover boss with Kylo Ren sketch shows the potential when Star Wars doesn’t take itself too seriously
I just watched Blues Brothers for the first time last week. I mean this in the best possible way, what an amazingly absurd film.
Absolute killer thumbnail 🤩
All the credit to Joel, my thumbnail guy. I told him what I was doing and he came up with this.
Given the way that the other shows all seem to be forced to adhere to an episode to episode and overall season based formula, it's seemingly a surprise and a miracle that Andor turned out as great and different as it did...
Something I’ve wanted for a while is a Star Wars anthology series where each episode focuses on a different character from around the galaxy.
In one episode we could see a child coming to terms with Jedi powers with no other Jedi around. In another we could see a droid creator that falls in love. There are so many cool stories that could be told!
my pitch for a Star Wars show would basically be JoJo Rabbit about a kid who is indoctrinated to worshipping the Empire and even has Palpatine as their imaginary friend - would anybody like to watch that show?
I am absolutely, 100% with you on that last one. The promise of The Mandalorian, before it turned into Lone Wolf and Cub, was a Star Wars version of The Man with No Name and I still want that. Making that character a completely unaligned, ronin, gray Jedi would be amazing.
Honestly, something that I want to see that Solo could have done but didn't is a buddy crime comedy/drama in space. It can be during the main era, but the pitch I would make is "five con artists stop the Empire, one job at a time" but also have some episodes be as low-stakes as "yeah, this section of a singular planet one of the main characters has ties to is being exploited for resources and they need to save it by bankrupting the head of the project" all the way to "yeah, we are literally trying to con one of the higher-ups into making a battleship with a whole ton of fatal flaws, but we would never go for the Emperor or his direct goonies." The core, however, is just fun. It's Robin Hood. In space. And yeah, considering that we don't see everything the Empire can do, why don't we have a time loop episode? Or an episode where they trick people into thinking they've traveled back in time? Let's explore that. And also the galaxy.
The biggest practical limitation that I can see for Star Wars shows is that, because of how expensive they are, they really need to bring in most or all of the Star Wars audience to work financially and, while something like a show about a band in a galaxy far, far away could be interesting, I'm not sure that it would bring everybody to the table (the pod-racing show seems like a fairly good bet in that respect, though). EU novels have always had a lot of freedom to try out all sorts of ideas since they don't cost much to produce, but there's a good part of the audience that will never experience them because they just don't think of Star Wars as something that you're supposed to read.
Personally I’d love a Pirates of the Carribean-esque show or movie. Not delving into the complex underworld stuff like you were talking about, but something with a much lighter and almost campy tone. Kind of like Solo but with more treasure hunting and less recognizable characters (though I wouldn’t be opposed to Hondo being in it).
I want this for Doctor Who. Think Inside Job on Gallifrey. Lower decks Sontarans or Cybermen. NCIS but Jidoon. Columbo with the Shadow Proclamation.
I have ideas. Call me, Russell, baby!
i love these ideas. im almost certain the office-like idea u had was word for a word a robot chicken sketch i saw as a kid, down to the blue milk and the reactions to the death stars blowing up, still would be a rly cool show tho
I think the idea from 80s cartoon Droids might make an interesting show along what you're asking. Its C3p0 and R2 wandering from place to place meeting new masters and experiencing the empire inbtween whenever r2 first met Obiwan and meeting Leia in a new hope. It doesn't have to be the main two Droids from the Skywalker movies. There's room for comedic silliness and the occasional heavier episode.
I’m imagining a variation of that last pitch as Apocalypse Now but in space. Maybe it focuses on a Jedi who is sent to deal with the rogue Jedi on behalf of the council. They have to travel from planet to planet through all these cool landscapes, maybe they run into a Sith who was also sent to take out the rogue Jedi. Maybe the main character Jedi and the sith have to work together and maybe by the end of the series they start questioning their respective organizations and have to decide if they’ll complete their mission or join the rogue Jedi. I don’t know if that makes sense, but I think it would be a great limited series
The first step to reinvigorating Star Wars (aside from disavowing the sequels, obviously) is to get out of the overplayed movie era. Start fresh with a new era, like KotOR and Legacy did years ago.
It's too bad they didn't take the opportunity to do something like this with Mara Jade from the novels. A special agent of the Emperor, who was Force sensitive but who he never tried to turn into a Sith, who ended up cut off from her powers and at loose ends after his death, working on the fringes of the underworld because her identity had been a complete secret, so that was the only work she could get. If they didn't want her story to intersect with the main film characters in the new canon like it did in the books, they could have used the chance to explore a different part of the universe, one connected with both the Empire and major smuggling organizations. Still, it might have just been The Mandalorian, but with a lesser-known character. The point is, you're absolutely right about the universe being big enough for more creative projects. I see the same thing happening with the Lord of the Rings franchise, decision makers thinking people want the same thing again when what many of us want is different things in the same world. That's my little rant over.🖖
i want a series where each season follows 1 of the bounty hunters who were called to help find the millennium falcon (not including boba fett. guys like bossk, dengar, 4-lom, zuckuss and ig-88). each season shows a different job per episode that they did in lead up to getting summoned by darth vader which would be the final scene for each season
Of the ideas you suggested, I like the office in star wars/imperial bureaucracy show idea the most, but, I've thought this might be a good idea for a Star Wars TV show or movie for a while: a story following young jedi in the temple learning about the force Harry Potter style.
If it was a movie it would have to be Knights of the Old Republic, hands down. But since we're talking T.V. shows here, how about any of the "Tales from..." books? Jabba's Palace, Mos Eisley Cantina, Bounty Hunters, the Empire, and the New Republic... how many series and episodes could you get off of just those alone? And those tales are focused on the background characters, not the famous ones, perfect for what Vera's looking for.
Another possibility could be some of the stores from "A Certain Point of View" books. They take different angles on the established events from the Original Trilogy. Make them in an animated show. There's tons of stories to choose from with either option, and they would be interesting to watch for most fans. That would be a good place to start from I'd say.
I really wonder what a straight up sitcom set in the Star Wars universe would look like…
Oh honestly, one of my dream Star Wars projects that I would absolutely just love would be if they basically did a Star Wars version of Black Adler. Where it's this it's higher genetic line through multiple historical. And Star Wars. Where the main character played by the same actor is always constantly on the wrong side of history and has to deal with the insane bureaucracy and evil of that side while maintaining his own sanity. So like it would start off with like dim the despot and having to do with those crazy pirates than his next generation of Ken would end up as a government bureaucrat that is trying to manage the planet after it gets taken over by the sith during the sith Wars then his descendant becomes a nile trying to deal with the insanity of the Marauders. That descendant then ends up involved in the trade federation and gets then involved in the separatist war than their descendant ends up working in the insane bureaucracy that is the empire. What then his son or daughter turns over a new leaf and is now part of the banal bureaucracy of the galactic Republic and then that person's kid were bells against them and joins the first order and deals with that shit show. And it's all played by the same actor and it's just a dark comedy and I would fucking love it.
10:45 - Wandering Badass show? Use Kyle Katarn! I'd love to see him adopted into Cannon.
That "depths of the Imperial bureaucracy" idea brings to mind the old series "Yes, Minister" from here in the UK. As you may know, the focus is on the staff of a particular Minister in the low-mid levels of the UK government, who have held the positions for years and served successive bosses, thus they know how to play the system and look busy without letting anything important actually get done
Syril Karn: "Is my life a joke to you?"
Who?
"Yes."
I would like a series about a droid, that way it could last hundreds of years and span a lot of different eras.
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I really want a comedy/slice of life show that's all droids in a droid maintenance factory. every character. some are verbal, some just beep boop. Disney canceled the willow series, but an ewok adventures show would be good old fashioned, all ages adventure fun!
I'd be more interested in a Force User who _isn't_ a Jedi or a Sith than Jedi vs Sith stuff. Someone who comes to realize their abilities on their own, having to deal with their powers in a context where no one knows what's going on with them. Give me - Well, I suppose don't aim it at me, I'm in my late 30s, aim it at 10-12-year-olds, 15-year-olds at a push - But make a Superpowers As Puberty Metaphor show in Star Wars using the Force. (...Though, ideally, do one of those that has nothing to do with any established IP or which is a reboot that's not connected to a Franchise other than itself - Eh, I suppose we're only about 5-10 years off of the next Tomorrow People reboot if the last one didn't kill the IP entirely because of how mishandled it was, those seem to happen every twenty years (8 seasons from 1973 to 1979, 3 seasons from 1992 to 1995, 1 season in 2013-2014))
(Though the thing I like most about the wandering badass pitch is that it lends itself to episodic storytelling in a way a lot of shows just... Aren't interested in doing these days. Like, I like serialised storytelling, but I also like episodic and the balance feels far too far on the serialised side of things right now)
I would really dig an Imperial-era noir detective procedural about a private eye on one of the big super-corrupt core worlds. The only person/people willing to stand up against the mob and Imperial security forces to make sure the opprressed masses can get some sense of justice.
Of course, to go a step further, make it fu-on Leverage in Star Wars.
The Bad Batch is really good but hardly anyone watches it. I wasn’t into the Clone Wars series until I started to watch The Bad Batch. The I went back and watched the episodes of CW and Rebels that were relevant to BB and Ashoka and now I am quite invested in the Filoniverse. A lot of what you pitch here is done in these shows.
First off, I like the band idea. And I want the A-plot to always be some petty drama between the band members and the B-plot is a standard pre-battle Star Wars story, political thriller intrigue happening in the background that they are trying not to get involved in. And it’s a trope that they always leave before the fighting starts.
I will also say that it's funny because it was one of the inspiration for Star Wars that Disney and to be honest, a certain chunk of fans feel like that Star Wars should really stay away from politics and religion when Dune has proven otherwise. And honestly out of all the shows and it's my favorite shit and it's actually touched on in the comics and movies. I would absolutely love if they did a Star Wars show or movie. That was about the first hell even about the Jedi and sith, but let's actually explore them like a real religion. Hell my fantasy about the new Ray movie that they'll never do is the revelation which they kind of hinted out with ahsoka that maybe in the beginning of the galaxy the galaxy was colonized by a bunch of other creatures and people, including humans from other galaxies, bringing all of their different diverse force religions. But then it manifests into the Jedi and the Jedi turning into the sith was inevitable so they just went fuck it and left the galaxy. Now that Ray has basically wiped out the sith and the Jedi or almost nothing, they've now started to come back. So like here's Ray thinking okay. I have to rebuild the Jedi order. How the hell do I do that? But because I'm a force user I'm on the top of the food chain only. They get smacked down by these radically different force users that aren't anything like the Jedi or sith would be absolutely fascinating. It would even be interesting too because these other factions aren't good or evil. So the audience is constantly questioning of who do you trust? What's everyone's motive? What's going on?. Absolutely love it!!
I guess this is more of a movie than a show or miniseries, just because the scope is smaller. Casablanca, but on Cloud City just before ESB. Lando isn't Bogart's Rick, he's Claude Rains's Captain Renault. "I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here."
I want live action Taka Jamoreesa. I want a Nightsisters/Dathomiri-focused story. I really want stories about obscure Force traditions like the Aing Ti. And I want some Old Republic era stories, preferably focusing on the Sith Empire prior to the Rule of Two, not for the lightsabers but for the political intrigue and obscure Force powers. Give me something like House of the Dragon in space. Give me some Sith who follow the Sith Code but aren’t actually anywhere close to evil and team up with, say, a Fallanassi and a Voss Mystic to stop another Hyperspace War in between excavating ancient Rakata relics, kind of like Star Wars meets Indians Jones.
I wish Disney could understand how vast Star Wars could actually be. Every show we've gotten, even the good one's, have been very focused on things we've already seen. Jedi, the force, old characters, nostalgia. I wish they could tell a much smaller story, or heck tell a big grand story that takes place many years in the future. There's so much potential in this world but they continue to box themselves in. I know Michael Scott is there as a joke in the thumbnail but how funny would a Star Wars sitcom be? It could be on a random Star Destroyer about the lives of some Storm Troopers and other imperial workers. That would actually be really cool to see!
The core problem which is part the company's fault and part the fan base unfortunately... Is that when they tried to experiment with the last Jedi which was supposed to be their big huge experiment, everyone fucking hated it. And then when they did a baby version of an existing character with grogo and filled a ton of references with the mandalorian and everyone in their mom love that show it unfortunately sealed Star Wars fate. As I am also someone who thinks that the stories way too much rely on the Skywalker saga and way too much rely on the Jedi which frustrates me because I would love to have an exploration of the philosophy and religion of the Jedi in the same way Dune explored that in their universe. The problem is is that the audience spoke. They just want Luke and Darth Vader doing crazy explosion stunts like John Wick style but Star Wars and the whole Star Wars universe's poor for it. Exactly why? I always tell people that if they want to see what Star Wars truly can be right now to get into the comic books and the novels because that's where a lot of the real experimentation is and it's glorious. Books that entirely focused on starfighters which is something that I've been wanting since the amazing battle in rogue One. You have stories based on ground soldiers from both sides. Different eras, different philosophies, myths and legends. A bounty hunters smugglers musicians. That's where unfortunately gets really creative because most Americans and global consumers just don't read books and comic books so Disney doesn't focus on them. They do watch a fucked on a TV and movies and that's why those films are bland because they're constantly product testing and the audience keeps saying. Please fill me up with more shit.
Do you have any specific recommendations for experimental Star Wars books and comics to check out?
@@adamdavis1648 Off the top of my head, Comics: The entire Dath Vader 2015 Run and Dark Lord Of The Sith run, Star Wars Yoda's Secret War & Ashes Of Jedha, all of Doctor Aphra comics, Obi-Wan & Anakin comics, Lando Mini-Series, The High Republic Trail Of Shadow & The Blade, Star Wars: Darth Vader - Black, White & Red , Star Wars Visions Peach Momoko. Books: Ronin Visions Novel, Phasma, Thrawn Ascendancy series, Alphabet Squadron, Inquisitor: Rise of the Red Blade, Force Collector, The Legends Of Luke Skywalker, A Crash of Fate, 'Leia, Princess Of Alderaan', Canto Bight, Catalyst A Rouge One Novel, Last Shot and finally Myths & Legends and Dark Legends.
@@jordanwhite352 Thanks!
i think the issue is money. doing more interesting stuff would be risky and a lot of the fanbase cares mostly or only about the jedi/sith stuff.
I would love to see a show based around the purple lightsaber
7:50 I honestly didn't like lower decks, and the second I heard you say that what I thought was those episodes of Andor with Dedra and Syril, and how it took a more dramatic tone. A star wars bureaucracy drama would be so good.
I really wanted a follow up show on what they touched on in ROS, where former storm troopers try to live ordinary lives. And you can go funny like one of them doesn’t know how to cook, one of them keeps changing their name so it’s different every episode or you can do more serious things with it. Just always thought that was wasted potential.
There definitely was passion behind Ahsoka. It is basically a love letter to Rebels and Clone Wars, but it does do some interesting stuff.
Ahsoka and Ray Stevenson’s character (Baylon Skul) are like two sides of the same coin, both are former Jedi who are trying to find their place without the doctrine they once followed. Baylon has embraced darkness, but has not become full sith, whilst Ahsoka is trying to continue with the code, but in her own way. Both have their own padawans whom they are passing on their own, new ideas for what a Jedi should be…. Unfortunately I can’t imagine it will be anywhere near as interesting without Ray Stevenson stealing every scene.
I want Star Wars to try something like Farscape but that would never happen under Disney ownership. If Farscape is put on Disney plus, it would get more censored than when it was broadcasted on the BBC.
I feel like Star Wars Resistance wasn't but almost sorta could have been something like a Pod Racing show. Eclectic group of pilots and racers, mechanics and shopkeepers. It wasn't terrible, but I think it was unwilling to commit to a mundane premise that could have made it more fun.
I loved the cartoons, and have rewatched the Clone wars recently, but I'd love to see the shows you pitched more than seeing the tie ins. Andor was great because it was about the little guys. It's a vast universe and I've been tired of the Skywalker focus for a long time.
I think it would be good to have smaller side shows like this to freshen up the galaxy a bit, but I think what Star Wars is missing in terms of a narrative direction is just continuing on from the original trilogy in an interesting way that develops the world without reling on something else. I think that's why Mandolorian originally resonated and why all the most interesting things in the current shows are the New Republic. The franchise kinda feels like its hesitating to use characters and stories general audiences are familiar with in favour of building a bunch of new characters and plotlines from the ground up and it honestly feels more messy and directionless than if they had a Leia show with some smaller shows dotted around it.
I feel like a show based on the character Cal Keistis from the Jedi: Fallen Order and Jedi: Survivor games has some potential
"What are midichlorians?"
"It's heroin.."
"My midichlorian count is at nine right now. That's like, stupid low!"
With the wanderer, my mind went to Samarai Jack but with light sabers. Or the old show The Fugitive from the '50s.
I read all the “Tales From…” books back in the day and always wanted to see these brought to life. Considered EU Legends now they took background characters from the OG star Wars era and told their story. Some of the ideas seem to pop up in the various TV series.
To continue on the band idea:
The band in question could be made of those enjoyable, morally grey characters, who are happy to play for both the Rebellion and the Empire. For their own safety, they can't disclose that to either side, of course, so they have to keep on coming up with ways to seem very innocent so no one interrogates them.
In one of the novels (disclaimer: I haven't read more than an excerpt from it) one of the clones comes out as a trans woman, so something exploring gender could be fun.
Or, a reality-tv style fashion series. But like, in character (as in not a BTS of the clothing department). "A Day in the Life of the Emperor's Stylist" or something.
There was a Jedi who decided she was done with the Jedi and we don't know what happened to her so there's potential.
Cousil of Geeks pitching Cowboy Bebop but Spike is a former sith apprentice.
tbh I need it.
Star Wars Visions season 2 is very different from season 1. I think you would like season 2 a lot more
I second this, roughly half the entries have nothing to do with the Jedi or the Sith, and even the ones that do explore them in very interesting fashions
Similar to your idea for The Office in space. O want to see The Thick Of it but set in the dysfunctional New Republic. It always struck me as odd that we see this victory in ROTJ then its all gone again by Force Awakens. So lets see the people behind the scenes being completely inept and just focus on their struggles while the system collapses around them. Also I just want Peter Capaldi in star wars and this seems like a fun way too include him!
Yesssss to the band! Maybe at some point they’ll have to get the band back together? I want to see the drummer have to kick death sticks! Cheers!
My pitch would be a series set 100 years after the events of Rise of Skywalker. That's been one of my big issues; everything is set in the franchise's own past. I want to see something that moves the story forward.
Since they blew up the Republic and First Order there's no real system of government in the galaxy and after a century things would descend into absolute chaos. I think that's a setting worth exploring.
I'd also like to see groups of Force users emerge other than Jedi and the Sith.
Wandering disillusioned Jedi idea is brilliant. It’s what I was hoping Obi Wan would be. Ashoka is great. Ashoka is a character seperate from the OG but with a fan base all her own. She moved on from the Jedi yet feels the influence of her old master who just happens to be Anakin/Vader combing the both to become the Gray Jedi. Combining her story with the Legends EU’s favourite villain is brilliant. BUT yes if you aren’t into either the Clone Wars stuff or the Grand Admiral Thrawn EU stuff then do you care?
Extra wrinkle: If it takes place before _A New Hope_ , have one of these shows set on Alderaan.
I like the Breaking Bad in Space the best. The last one, the Bruce Banner Kung Fu, it's kinda what Ahsoka could've been, but instead that show is live action Rebels Season 5 with a new name. Although Ahsoka never went Sith (she was just framed and not believed by the Jedi Council, excommunicated, then later when exonerated she was like um how about Get F'd and didn't come back to them). That said I think her show gets crapped on unnecessarily. I loved it, but then I watched Clone Wars and Rebels so I understand the lore they're building on and it has very little to do with Jedi or Sith, but tons to do with Light and Dark and the Origins and Nature of the Force itself.
I'm holding out that Ashoka is actually building to a force thing that isn't Jedi and Sith related but just my theory
One show I'd like to see is a dark, gritty, adult animated show. Not like the later seasons of Clone Wars, that's the first thing that comes to mind in terms of "dark, gritty Star Wars animation."
No, Clone Wars and Rebels deliberately started in the kids' show ghetto before going into gritty war drama territory. I wanna see one that aims for adult audiences RIGHT OFF THE BAT. Go full Netflix Castlevania from the very first episode.
Not so interested in the first or third stories, but the second idea is one I'd really like and had been hoping we'd see with Boba Fett (or at least a mix of a western, mob film, and Star Wars, but more coherent than we got). Fourth might work for me, but - like the third - feels more like a sketch (maybe recurring) in something broader. Frell, you probably could probably put the first, third, and fourth into such a show. Otherwise, they remind me of that rightfully short-lived Powerless show which was just an office sitcom set in the DC universe, which wasn't very good.
Yeah, the wandering Force user show could be interesting, but honestly that's a little similar to what Mandalorian was early on (and I kind of wish it hewed more that direction). Also, "Grey Jedi" bothers me on various levels, but mainly there really is no reason they couldn't just be a Jedi, as they're mostly portrayed this way outside of when they want the big order to be important - just be a Jedi who doesn't associate with the Jedi Order (or give me the Jedi A-Team). At most, it could be like Doctor Who, with the Jedi Order and Time Lords being similar-ish.
I'd also be up for a Space: Above and Beyond-style show about an X-Wing squadron, though I hope that's kind of what the on-again Patty Jenkins Rogue Squadron movie will be.
I can't believe we don't have a BB type show other than the failure that is Boba, also I think a Rahm Kota Samurai show would be great and detached from the empire stuff because I'm getting sick of the constant need to have that
that last idea is awesome.
I could go for a podracing show. It'll be neat.
I dig these ideas, especially the last one...though to fully embrace that premise to its true potential, I feel like they'd have to allow such a protagonist to be shady and irreverent/unidealized to a degree of "doesn't always have to be likable" that I'm not sure the Disney suits would let fly. Think Malcom Reynolds (appropriate consider the mental picture you painted)...Like The Mandalorian obviously wore its Dollars Trilogy influence on its sleeve, with Mando coded as "The Man With No Name in Space"...but it became very quickly apparent that nah, Mando's not *really* as morally gray as TMWNN.
I'm more into Star Trek than Star Wars but I love your ideas and feel, with a tweak or two here and there, they could also work really well in Trek
Thank You for making putting your ideas out there :)
So basically the Mad Max Fury Road of Star Wars shows
A Breaking Bad type show in the Star Wars universe would be peak ngl
I didn't realize that there were so many streaming shows in the Star Wars universe. That is bit of overkill, but then this is Disney we're talking about. They will milk it for all that it's worth. As for my own opinions on Star Wars, I love the original trilogy but really didn't like Phantom Menace or Attack Of The Clones, Revenge Of The Sith was a lot better but was still lacking something that made the original trilogy so great but I wasn't quite able to put my finger on it at the time. I saw The Force Awakens and thought that it was okay but too long and I was pretty bored with it by the end. I never bothered with the movies that came after that but I'd heard good things about The Mandalorian so I thought I'd give that a go and I love it. I think that it's the first Star Wars show that I've seen since the original trilogy that gets what made those 3 movies work. Phantom Menace leaned too far into trying to be funny but fell flat, Clones, Sith and Awakens went too far in the other direction, but The Mandalorian has the right balance of serious sci-fi and humour. The comedy moments aren't overdone and are believable within the universe, there's no annoying characters and the only bad actor is Gina Carano (and she was good at being a bad ass, just useless at anything else). Then I tried watching The Book Of Boba Fett and I found that it made the same mistake as Clones and Sith in that it did away with the comic relief. In the original trilogy, you had C3PO and R2D2 bickering like an old married couple, Yoda and the snarky comments of Han and Leia, in Mandalorian you have Grogu and Pelli, but everything else seems to miss that aspect as far as I can see. They either tried too hard and failed like with Jar Jar or they just didn't try at all. The original trilogy and Mandalorian don't take themselves too seriously but they're able to be serious when needed. I think that is what any future Star Wars shows need to keep in mind. It's a galaxy of cute and strange aliens and droids.
What about a Police Procedure/Detective. Disgruntled, grizzled detective who worked for the RBI, Republic Bureau of Investigation and is getting used to working for the IBI, Imperial Bureau of Investigation, new rules, new restrictions & new bosses
3: So, Dolores Imperial HR the series. Why not?
Please watch the clone wars. I think you’ll really enjoy it (though the first seasons, they’re a bit hit or miss at times)
Might I recommend The Sopranos if you're after a power struggle show in general. If you haven't seen it. Or Berserk the manga from your last idea
Ideas aren't terrible, I just got tired of hearing 'it's like another show that's already out there...in space!'
My list:
Lando, pre-Empire, wheeling and dealing to keep Cloud City running, juggling his 'notorious gambler' past and his legitimate businessman future.
Troopers: either done as grunt soldiers, down on the ground, while big, epic events swirl around them or a procedural CSI show (in space!), trying to keep the peace on some outpost.
Your band idea, but it has to be the band from Jabba's Palace. If you are going to do rock band tropes, I want it to be a bunch of funky looking aliens.
What about a political drama about running the Republic (be it the old one from the prequels or the new one fighting the First Order in the sequels), like a Star Wars "West Wing." Or maybe it's about an imperial governor who struggles to balance running their sector/planet/whatever as humanely as possible without getting in trouble with the higher-ups?
Also, I suppose the existence of various alien cultures and planets probably presents possibilities for ways a detective murder mystery show could be different in Star Wars from how the same genre is written in more realistic settings. They could be worth trying.
Maybe they should try an anthology show where each episode is essentially a pilot for a different Star Wars show that's really different from what we're used to. That way, a lot of the various different possibilities of Star Wars are explored and if certain episodes turn out to be particularly popular, those ones can get full series.
I just want my ANDOR season 2 and I'm good with star wars
You asked for something offbeat and unusual?...... Golden Girls style sitcom but in Star Wars. Or for something a bit more serious and maybe achievable.... A muder mystery following a private investigator. Not a week-to-week series but a single case over 6 episodes
Happy Birthday! Cool shirt!😃
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Andor was good, and Ahsoka was interesting. Also the Mandalorian. Of course they could do better, but I'm still ready for some more SW.
Hey, and touching on the cartoons, "Bad batch" was quite good and hat quite a lot of this band based show. Did you watch it? What do you think?
P.S. Yes!!!!! Gray Jedi! All for it!
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What do you think of the state of Star Trek?
While I like Star Trek I’ve never been enough of a Trekkie to have much investment or opinion about “the current state.”