Henry being the one to make the funtimes would explain why he (at least partially) blames himself for "all of this". Even if the child snatching features were added by William alone. Also making a robot replacement of your daughter instead of mourning the loss could definitely be described as "letting the wound bleed out."
Honestly it explains why Fazbear ENT. so flagrantly disregarded worker safety, especially how he was totally okay putting the volunteer in danger in Pizzeria Simulator every day before burning them on the assumption they wanted to die too...
All we did was reboot Roxy, same way we rebooted Eclipse, that’s why she turned back on, I think GlitchTrap expected his virus to be back in control but Roxy rebooted into safe mode like Freddy did
But we did a hard reboot for Eclipse? that's why Sun and Moon are no longer and why Eclipse seems to think that the Daycare will be filled with kids (even though it's clear that no kid will ever step foot in the Pizza Plex ) Eclipse was factory reset. And if Cassie truly did reboot Roxy she would have also lost her memories and been factory reset just like Sun and Moon and yet she clearly still remembers Cassie after we "reboot her".
@@3nc335 we dont know that all of that is the case, nor what we actually do to the animatronics when we use the wrench. While in real life, the things seen in ruin are similar to 'factory resets' or 'reboots', we dont know wether thats whats actually happening in universe, nor wether those things even can happen to the animatronics in universe. Rebooting in the sense of turning something off then on again has happened many times, but a reboot that actually changes how something behaves, the closest thing i can think of is disarming failsafes modes in parts and services. We dont know what the wrench did to roxy, we dont know how she came back from what the wrench did to roxy, nor do we know if these events are similar to what the wrench did to sun and moon, and we dont even know why whatever happened to sun and moon changed them into eclipse. It could be that, yes, the wrench deactivates and reactivates every animatronic in safe mode the same way freddy turns off and turns back on in safe mode seemingly automatically. It could be that these three instances are completely separate and different, and any connections between them are really just circumstantial at best. It could be that the wrench is only deactivating the animatronics, and something or someone else is reactivating them remotely. We simply do not know, and what we claim to know is entirely based on how many assumptions we are willing to make to fill the gaps in knowledge. Personally, i like to take as small leaps as possible, keeping my thoughts as close as i can to being only whats presented, but thats bad for content so i get why youtubers have to stretch so far to get new and unique 'theories'
Also of note: the port for Roxy is part of her mask. So it’s possible we don’t even reboot Roxy, but reboot the mask. It’s possible the mask was a way to better control Roxy. It creates an AR image that restores her face, so that might be meant to calm her.
@@jc_art_ I mean it's clear we did do a hard reboot or the very least wiped Sun/Moons data and memory. Why else would he be acting like the Pizzaplex is still up and running. I know that Sun did say "Thank you" after the daycare mission but I think that was his last dying words before being reset, his final thanks to Cassie for basically putting him out of his own misery. Now with that said why wouldn't this be the same for Roxy? The Faz-Wrench doesn't seem to have a options menu where you can pick to chose to do a soft reboot or a hard reboot or activating and deactivating a animatronic. It can activate things but only by using the wire puzzles not just jamming in the wrench holes thingy. In my option and theory I think Roxy was hard rebooted and lost all of her data and memory including her history with Cassie. She was rebooted into safe mode which is way she now want's to protect Cassie like Freddy. Even when we Reboot Sun/Moon and wipe their data and memory Eclipse speaks all soft and caring to Cassie just like how Freddy was in safe mode. Now how did Roxy get down there to save Cassie?? I don't know maybe her dad helped Roxy up to save her some how and some reason, If Cassie's dad is still even around or Maybe Vanessa? And the reason why Roxy still remembers Cassie's name is because she knows and can scan her guest profile including her name. But all these questions will probably be answer in a future game lol.
I really like your angle on Roxy not being a security node and instructed to be shutdown by Glitchtrap because she was no longer under control. I think there's an added element of removing the only ally Cassie had. Notably, the Mimic was hair's breadth away from grabbing Cassie until Roxy intervened. If not for Roxy's mysterious second wind (which Glamrock Freddy also had), the Mimic would have killed Cassie.
@@Takejiro24 Well Helpi does get corrupted sometimes in Ruin, and Cassie can only get the mask if the player of HW2 (maybe Cassie's dad) reassembles Glitchtrap or smth (that ending is really confusing), gets stuffed or some how controlling the mask bot. So he might be around in Ruin but it still doesn't make sense why Roxy isn't affect by him in Ruin?
@@prcervi FR and how did she get up, get reactivated, then ran down the fnaf 6 place, down to the burntrap room and down to the save Cassie while blind!!!!
Just to add to the Cassie sort of shocking Roxy back to her original programing, or even possibly giveing her a bit of an AI awakening like Freddy. When Roxy grabs Cassie the 1st time and starts apologizing, Roxy specifically says "Error" when she is trying to explain what is happening to herself and Cassie. To me, this is very much a sign of the virus directive coming into direct conflict with her base programing/AI. No idea of she snapped out of ot in that exact moment or if it took some time for her internal processes to resolve the error, but it clearly sets up for her personality shift later on.
Nice catch! that makes sense if that was her awakening and breaking out of not only Glitchtrap's control but also her base programing kinda like Detroit Become Human LOL
Well, it could be Henry built the robot for sister location like the glamrocks. Innocent ideas like carrying cake, making sure kids stay in an area with the parent mimic, ect. That would explain his saying of robots set for new purposes. They weren't originally made for kidnapping and killing. Afton got ahold of them and repurposed or rebuilt them for his wants. Actually, i think this makes a lot of sense. And that is what silver eyes elude to. Henry built baby and afton took her and alters her to be the baby we know.
I like the Roxy angle you described. I think when it came to Glamrock Freddy, they made his speech vague enough to go either way on purpose (because they wanted to see which way the fans reacted before going down a route). For me, Freddy said he "Found himself" down there and that makes me believe he found his body (like the books describe). Once he's aware he is dead, he's then a ride-along to the programming until seeing Gregory is a powerful enough memory/motivation for him to activate safe mode and take control.
My only take on this so far is, personally, I think it's reversed with Carney and Lefty. I'm more prone to thinking that Lefty was a repurposed Carnie, here's why: In Help Wanted 2, we get some glimpses of Fallfest 1970, both in the poster, the Carousel, and the shooting gallery. What these all have in common is they share a layout with the standalone area of the corn maze in the Curse of Dreadbear DLC from HW1. This may or may not be involved with the trick or treat house, graveyard, Captain Foxys Wild Adventure and the barn, as none of them offer much in area viewing, however, we can actively see parts of the corn maze and surrounding objects, such as the large water tower, in the backgrounds of all three places. This actually provides a small map of what Fallfest 1970 could have looked like if we use that water tower as "point 0." This means, in Fallfest 1970, we have beings such as Helpy (thanks to the overhead voice being a "Carnival" Nurse and not a S.T.A.F.F. bot or Dread Unit), Carney, Sun/Moon (and the Jack-o-Moon variant), and the potential of Grim Foxy, the core 4, Captain Foxy, Balloon Boy and Dreadbear too. It's a weird mix of janky movements, furry suits, outifts, plastic bodies, and a lot of metal. Fallfest was a product of the Freddy Fazbears corporation. As we see in the fazerblast series of games, everything ended when the park caught fire. Carrie was destroyed, the Carousel is seen with fire surrounding it, Grim Foxy.. existing at all really in the state we see him. But what remained? The core 4, who appear to be the unwithered models of Fanf 2, Balloon Boy, Helpy, and Sun/Moon. They were stored away to be repurposed later. So between the Fall of 1970 and the early 1980s, we have a gap where Circus Baby's could open, shut, and reopen as a rental, Fnaf 2 opens with repurposed animatronics, following the mold of BB, as he was likely the least damaged of them all, and, over time, someone, likely Henry, refurbished Carney and redesigned him as Lefty, his fur black, not by design, but by necessity, as no other color would be able to hide the burned, bumpy, destroyed bear underneath. This also explains why, in FNaF 6, Lefty moves so erratically, with his head bobbing and his arms moving in a way that wouldn't fit suit a musical bear. Because he wasn't. He was a carnival bear, his voice box removed, his parts barely working and his tendency to fall apart (if we are to believe some of the lawsuits of course). Plus, if Lefty came first, then why? Why would a capture unit come before the disappearance of any children that predates even the first incident, which may or may not be between 1971 and 1981?
I guess you could argue that since Michael runs on the funtime's remnant from the scooper, after that burnt away in the fnaf6 fire the remnant from him dying could remain?
to be honest I've been thinking what if Henry never actually existed as an actual separate person. FNAF currently has a lot of Jekyll and Hyde characters going on. GGY/Gregory, Vanessa/Vanny, Sun/Moon, Glitchtrap/Mimic. What if Henry and William have been the same person this whole time? This is heavily unlikely tho and I like your theory of Henry being ok with everything until some point (possibly when he discovered Charlie was killed by William and not some mystery man.) It would also explain his deep guilt
Until proven otherwise I fully believe that the Tangle is just a mass of agony and so is Burntrap. The remnant was all burned away and all that remained was agony. The Tangle mindlessly seeks out other agony imbued objects to add to itself such as the old animatronic pieces from Rockstar Row much like how the Stitchwraith did in the books. Just like you proposed here, I think that it didn't leave the Pizzaplex until Ruin because until Ruin, the place was essentially an agony farm. It also REALLY wanted Burntrap because at that point William's remains are basically pure agony from being springlocked and burned 2 different times. That's why it's hardcore camping the FNAF 6 location. Once all the agony was absorbed, it left to find more.
I’ve had a theory for a while, connected to agony. It’s possible that Henry is wrong, or he is right and got rid of the souls, but that doesn’t mean the legacy that the horrors of Freddy’s is gone, so here’s my theory: There was a princess quest arcade machine at the Freddy Fazbear’s pizza place, which we see in help wanted 2, that maybe the agony of everything possessed, and the code that was put into help wanted 1, was the princess quest that we see, creating the agony Glitchtrap
I used to be on the side of mike possessed glamrock freddy but now my favorite is from TheChiptide wherein freddy's ai is trained on mike, perfect middle of the road for me
Personally, I think the “safe mode” disconnects the animatronics from the system, so it’s meant for when they’re on stage. Only thing is after Fred deactivated, then he goes into safe mode.
I've been thinking for awhile that Henry did not know Willy killed Charlie. She's found outside the place her dad works/owns with a robot he created to protect her laying on top of her. Iirc, one of the newspaper clippings talk about someone being detained for the crimes, what if it was Henry? Afton could have used that as a way to manipulate him into helping build bots. My thought has been that Charlie was either a genuine accident or a hit & run. when we see afton get out of the car, maybe he's freaked about it. Maybe he had already planned to kill her to get Henry to help him and or something. But I've always found Charlie's death and even her kidnapping in the books suspicious. (Don't even get me started on Sammy.)
I like the idea of Henry building the machines used to kill. Especially when you remember the line in the true ending of Pizza Sim "Trapped in prisons of my own making" or something along those lines. Especially when you take into account the only one he specifically made was Lefty. What are the other prisons? The funtimes as MF clearly.
Both are liable. You have to have 2nd opinion from multiple people to not waste money on a project like this, especially with deadline for opening stores. Normal projects have teams of over 10 people. I think Afton always had Henry look over his work and vice versa... having both ideas in the robots. Henry going reclusive after his kid died, and Atfon went 100% all in after his kids died. Shows both sides of how people react to trauma, and also life changing discoveries.
A little late to the party, but I could see the whole security node argument either way. Considering the fact that durring the gameplay of ruin, both chica and monty kick the bucket, and freddy is already disconnected from the network. Leaving roxy the only node left. On the other hand, and this one requires more speculation. After the daycare section, we dont see eclips again, and realistically, neither would glitchtrap, and so, if i was an evil ai, and i saw a small child put the pointy stick in one of my minions, then it turns off and my conmection is completely separated, and i never see him, you can logically conclude that daycare attendant was just shut off, and not rebooted and had his system flushed or booted in safe mode. So, if i then needed to off one of my rouge minions, lets get the obedient child to just, do it again without expecting roxy to stand back up. Good job, you made it to the bottom, have a cookie 🍪.
On Burntrap: If UCN is happening after FNAF6 and is taking place inside the mind/body/remnant of William, at least his remnant wasn’t destroyed. If UCN is continuing to occur during Security Breach, Burntrap is “possessed” but William isn’t in control. So Glitchtrap might take control of a comatose William.
Glamrock Chica was an interesting case. She makes strange sounds when we’re near her, and it’s still a mystery. At first I thought it’s an Easter egg to how FNAF 1 Chica made moaning noises, but when Matpats diagram shows how certain Glamrocks are infected, that would mean Chica is almost as corrupted as Monty, but deep down, she doesn’t want to hurt anyone or anything. Anyone have any ideas? 🤔
When you stand near her long enough. It typically happens when you get to the point where your free to roam the Pizzaplex. When Freddy has 3 bars of power, get Chica to chase you, hide inside Freddy, and hang around Chica for a while. You’ll hear the sounds.
I really like your argument about Roxy not being a security node, given how easy her puzzle is. But while I was thinking about it, I thought that this could be a mix of narrative and gameplay reasons. We know that the developers wanted for us to feel bad for deactivating her, so I think that, if the puzzle was harder, maybe we could get that "Gotcha!" feeling after completing it, and that might break the emotional flow of the scene. I don't doubt that there is an in-universe explanation for that, but I feel like this was the main reason. Good video, as always
Damn I love the idea of William forcing Henry into the same grief to bind them together and delve into the depths of remnant revival. Fascinating stuff.
5:10 Oof, sounds rough. I can't imagine being trapped in the content grind and having to stick to one topic for that long. 9:38 Do note that before Cassie called her, Roxy thought Gregory was still around, and made it very clear that she had a personal vendetta against him for mutilating her and stealing her eyes. 13:02 I don't think it was correct, as even in the blueprint it was unsure. In the novels and short stories, spirits have to be released willingly, they have to let go on their own. In Pizza Sim, all Henry did was torch the place, the only closure was his own. 17:35 Burntrap's endo looks too different from the Mimic's to really be the same thing, in my opinion. The only similarities they have are a single hand, and in the books, the Mimic is only said to reconfigure and move around existing parts, not T-1000 a new appearance. Burntrap has too much Springtrap to just be the Mimic. 20:50 Burntrap is too Afton-coded to not be William. He's in the Spring Bonnie suit, he emerges _in a cloud of purple gas,_ he's got purple eyes, and he doesn't behave _anything_ like the Mimic. Even the arm curl in his opening can come from him swinging the door open, similar to how Glitchtrap opens the pod door in HW2. Plus, in his ending scene, his arm is held a bit more outward than it looks from the front, which makes sense since he's running away from the fire. 23:00 Ooooh, that's neat! 26:30 The same thing happened with Henry, he was not part of the games until he stowed away into Pizza Sim. 39:20 Yo? Idea? I just like Old Man Consequences because of his name.
I think the broken grammar and the "it is a fair trade" is actually swapping the villains. My interpretation is Glitch trap will no longer be the villain moving forward, it will be Vanny. I think her squishing him is the visual symbolism of "I'm more powerful" and kind of like a Sith motif of the apprentice kills the master and becomes the master.
I dont think that Henry was ever supposed to be this innocent bystander who tries to right wrongs as the fandom has head cannoned him as. He's kinda like our W.D. Gaster in that sense. The novels don't portray him kindly, if we believe that Mike's family in the movie is supposed to be Henry's he abandoned them, if Edwin's his stand in for Tales he's not great, and in the games he disappeared until FFPS. In every iteration of this series Scott has alluded to the fact that Henry is kinda a POS, but because of the fact that the bar is not being a child killer, we give Henry a pass. Maybe we just thought hey he's a little neglectful, but when you put together a lot of the Henry allusions we get in this series it expands way further than that.
Things I want to know if they’re relevant or important in the series. 1. Is William Afton still in his ultimate custom night nightmare or is he finally dead for good. 2. Is glitchtrap a variation of the mimic or is he a copy of William Afton. 3. If Cassie’s dad is the Bonnie bro where are the Freddy mask bully and chica mask bully. 4. Who is the CEO of fazbear entertainment llc and what are they up to. 5. Will the blob/tangle have an important part of the story (also I personally call the tangle the cluster because it’s cooler).
1. If Frights is to be believed - dead 2. IN MY OPINION, a variation of Mimic1 3. He likely is. As for the second part, people have theorised that the Freddy bully is Mr Renner from the Tales story "Animatronic Apocalypse", we haven't any clue where the Chica bully is tho 4. No clue lol 5. Given he appeared in RUIN (tho briefly) means he's clearly being teased
I don't know but glichtrap is treated more like a virus than a out of control computer program. He wasn't intentionally downloaded but is a stow away that was scanned in fron old circutbords which couldn't have come from the mimic which we later find verry much intact in Ruin DLC. Glichtrap has seemingly super natural abilitys like mind control and the ability to directly control any machinery in the area. The mimic has none of those abilitys glichtrap has and can only mimic people's voices. So far I don't think the mimic is glichtrap theory is true. It just relys on to many assumptions and stretches to make it happen. It also makes things way more complicated than it needs to be
1. I would assume ultimate custom night or is now glitch trap. I lean more towards the former than later. 2. Yes, regardless of if William is possessing it or not, we know that glitchtrap is a program with his data. That program is implied to be part of the mimic1 code set. 3. Either dead or will be brought up in some future project. 4. If I had to guess phone dude from FNAF 3 is a likely contender. I would assume he would be a Sammy like character (Henry's son) using his connection to his father to search abandoned Fazbear sites to get merchandise without getting sued to hell and back. 5. Most likely, yes. At minimum, it is a mass of agony from Fazbear's latest victims. If William Afton's spirit is still in the picture then it would likely be there and taking it over.
What if tho... Wiliam knew that Henry could find his blueprints if something happened to him. So he wrote that bit about overheating on purpose because he knew something much more potent came out of the remnant? Perhaps that coudve been his way of making sure that even after his death there still would be something he would left his mark on if he would not be able to do that personally. Not sure how to continue this but perhaps that could be a reason the animatronics are still acting like that even tho the activity shoud be if anything much more sparse.
I'm feeling very confident that Lefty was designed AFTER Henry got the design documents from Afton Robotics. Which is partly why Henry held onto the plans in that computer: To use Afton's ideas in order to build a robot to capture the Puppet. Furthermore, I think Henry was using Afton's funtime designs in order to further his goal of gathering all the animatronics to one place to destroy them.
Mild theory for Roxy: does agony have to come from physical pain? We know that Cassie had a birthday party at the pizzaplex that nobody showed up to (except for Gregory, who probably joined somewhat late). Roxy's voice lines before she gets shut down imply that she was there comforting Cassie to some degree. What if Roxy is infused with the agony of a child all alone at their own birthday party? If this is a form of agony that exists, it would definitely be less...powerful?...than what you get from being shoved into a suit. Maybe just enough to turn her back on and nudge her down the stairs. Once Roxy realizes that Cassie is in danger, her AI would probably tell her to protect Cassie, no possession required
Tbh, the only way the Michael is Glamrock Freddy theory works for me is if Michael decided to escape the fire, as Henry had given him the option to, and he died of other means or decided to abandon his body since he's dead anyways and his body is just going to continue to rot no matter what he does and he happened upon Freddy. Bro probably said "fuck it. This will do and I can monitor the situation from here just in case"
Oooh I LOVE the theory that William killed Charlie not in revenge but to get Henry's genius on his side. That could help explain why they kept opening up new Freddy locations and the bots kept getting more sophisticated as hunters and predators considering Henry was supposed to be the genius engineer. If true, I wonder how he learned that it was William that killed Charlie? Did he somehow find Mike's handbook or have an encounter with one of the more intelligent haunted animatronics? It's narratively satisfying that the two people William abused and manipulated into helping him were the ones to finally take him out.
1- i don think any of the glamrocks are really possessed. i think it was you who i heard it from, but i think theyre ai becoming sentient. i think glamrock freddy may have been taught to be similar to mike afton. i dont think gregory is cc, vanessa is elizabeth, and freddy is mike. i think theyre picked by the mimic because hes trying to recreate the aftons, him being william. i think we might even see them change to become their own characters more overtime because i think the mimic was changing them to fit the afton family. 2- i dont think roxie was actually a security node. i think the mimic saw her as a threat because she was reacting to cassie like freddy reacted to gregory. he doesnt want the problem repeated. 3- i dont think we'd be given information on how remnant could be undone and then it doesnt work at all. i think agony is still there, but i think the fire freed the spirits. i think remnant, agony, and spirits are all separate things. (though i think agony was considered a type of remnant in the books?) i dont think the blob is possessed by spirits, i think its just running on agony. maybe agony is just harder to get rid of completely. then the mimic's actions are adding to it as well. 4- i think fnaf 1-6 was one story, and help wanted 1 on is a new one. i think the only real connection is the blob and the mimic/glitchtrap. i think glitchtrap is a digital version of the ai that is now in the mimic. i think glitchtrap originally wanted to be put into afton's corpse. but burntrap didnt work, so he went into the mimic. i like the idea that he used to be part of the blob. maybe thats why he got yoinked in the ending. the blob wanted him back. 5- if the mimic really is an older animatronic, and it couldve been made by someone we already know, i think that could be why he knows so much about william. maybe he was even made by william to begin with. probably before working with remnant. he wanted life-like robots, so a mimic would be the closest he could get before he learns about remnant and possession. i think henry is more likely to have made him though. i think edwin is probably a stand in for him. but i think itd be really interesting if it was actually cassie's dad. im not sure where the agony wouldve come from though. i dont think we have enough information on him to really decide that, but it is possible. 6- i hope we get a fall fest game as one of the next ones. i think the funtimes being fall fest characters, and carnie being repurposed into lefty is an interesting thought. especially if henry made lefty. i always thought that "henry good william bad" was weird. i think william killing charlie to henry to help him is really interesting! i dont think its likely, but ill probably adopt it as a headcanon of mine ^^ 7- ive always thought omc was just a reaper sorta thing. helping spirits move on. but now with princess quest im not really sure? i guess it could still be a sort of spirit guardian. maybe he sticks around because fazbear entertainment has fucked up so many things. i feel like messing with souls and creating a type of immortality is probably extremely forbidden in most beliefs. i think omc is there to keep track of the people who do and do what he can to prevent/stop the people doing it.
What I think. 1. What if instead of being possessed by ghost the modern animatronics are instead haunted by agony or perhaps something completely new, or maybe a few of the animatronics are getting possessed while others are still just mere AI’s. 2. I’m personally under the belief that the mimic and burntrap are 2 complete separate entities, I think burntrap is just the body glitchtrap used to interact with the real world, also if the tales books are canon to the games I think the corpse on burntrap belongs to a boy named luca. 3. I think it’s possible that Cassie’s dad could possibly become a physical vessel for glitchtrap or the mimic AI.
28:45 Yes! Absolutely 100%. As a GlamMike believer, I do believe that if Michael Afton can possess Glamrock Freddy, then the same can hold true for Charlie, Elizabeth, the MCI, and William. I already think that Elizabeth possesses Vanessa as the Vanny persona in some Jekyll and Hyde situation. I think that because of Vanny's childish personality, ghostly echoes on her voicelines in Help Wanted and cut voicelines in Security Breach, and her audio of a giggling little girl that was cut in SB. I think it also ties into Vanessa's backstory seemingly aligning with William's? Or how her dad's name was Bill?
One litteral shower though I had. What if the blob is just the Fun time programing in the cables reacting to abduct "children" but because the damage tge just snap at anything they see as living
38:13 Cassette Man does say "a wound, first inflicted on me, that I let bleed out, into all this", which sounds to me like he knew or atleast knows now that Afton killed Cassette Mans daughter, however in that same tape he also says "Small souls trapped in *prisons of my making,* now set to *new purpose* ", which does support your idea of Cassette Man helping Afton build the funtimes and left-e with trapping in mind. Specifically because he says he made the prisons the souls were trapped in, it sounds to me like he made the traps and the prisons, and Afton just set them to new purpose afterward. Your idea that Cassette Man helped Afton build the funtimes and left-e with the purpose to trap and contain, only afterwards Afton set them to the purpose of killing kids, makes sense to me. The main argument i have against it is that the unnamed voice at the start of sister location almost directly says Afton built these things when he says, "theres no doubting what *youve* (only talking about Afton) achieved on a technical level, *these* (referring to multiple animatronics, likely all the funtimes) are clearly state of the art, there are just certain design choices that were made for *these robots* (once again referring to multiple robots, likely all funtimes) that we dont fully understand. We were hoping you could shed some light on those." Then later "With all due respect, those werent the design choices we were curious about, mr Afton." This all points to Afton being the main, or only, one to build the funtimes, and more likely than not, the only one who built and added the luring and trapping mechanisms that we see in sister location and FFPS. Based on all of the information so far, i would conclude that Cassette Man likely was not involved with building the funtimes or the trapping mechanisms, and instead the line about the souls trapped in prisons he made set to new purpose, was referring to the freddy's characters and how he built them and Afton set them to new purpose post 'Follow Me', or perhaps even referring to Post 'MCI' and how the children were stuffed.
Here’s an interesting theory to try and explain Roxanne coming back suddenly online, it’s much the same conundrum as what Glamrock Freddy had with his “Second wind”, could be the machines own will power, though this falls under Detroit become human territory but what if the animatronics are reveling a certain code to act as the primary which will the equivalent to a soul or a heart. As going by this when you mention Roxanne hearing Cassie and recognizing her and realizing she’s hurting a child, but with Monty and Chica, they straight up don’t respond like Roxanne did, Monty even attacks Cassie after hearing her. Thus there’s a unique connection Roxanne has made a primary coding unlike Monty and Chica, much like with Gregory and Freddy, a personal override, an emotional attachment that can just turn them on. Though that’s just a theory to chew on with maybe some frosting…I think I made a cupcake theory… Edit: adding this so I ain’t annoying with notifications, but I think looking at the blob being the result of FFPS fire would also be paired with a recent thought. That if one where to use stitchline, it directly prove William wrong in that sense as he and TOYSNHK be ejected, TOYSNHK was able to keep William within his own body which being in the fire should be impossible.
I really love the idea of the story being about two grieving engineers willing to do anything to bring their children back at any cost and the echoing repercussions of their actions, it def makes the story a lot more interesting and does make more sense when you consider how everything went down yet Henry did little to nothing to stop William
As an answer to the question about possession on the newer games, i am uncertain about Michael being Glamrock Freddy, but i absolutely think that Burntrap, and by proxy Glitchtrap, are William. The reason I believe this to be the case is that: 1- We know a "vengeful spirit" is capable of keeping someone tethered to life, *even after the body has been burned*, as described in the Fazbear Frights story "The man in room 1280". 2 - If Cassidy and the PQ princess are indeed one and the same, we can assume she would still be keeping William from death/in UCN up until Help Wanted, as she would be still around by the time Security Breach happens. Refusing to move on like the other missing kids (Plus proves a soul can become a digital character). 3 - We have seen spirits in this franchise remain "haunting" an object, in spite of *being able to move on*, if they wish to stay around, which applies for Cassidy post FNAF 6 and William post HW1. 4 - Glitchtrap being William's soul in virtual form explains multiple flaws in the argument that it is just "the mimic program copying Afton", for instance the choice of a fabric, stitched spring bonnie suit for it's own image (why and how does it know what it looked like); the use of "I always come back" in PQI(the only times Afton says this is after jumpscares of FNAF 6, UCN and the fnaf 3 trailer); the insistence on using the burnt and damaged body of Scraptrap instead of a brand new endo; etc. 5 - All animatronics that are under *direct control* of Glitchtrap seem to have purple eyes, as seen with Burntrap and Freddy, while others that have been reprogramed or just connected to the V.A.N.N.I network have the same *red* glowing eyes as Vanny's mask. This also assumes Burntrap and Ruin's Mimic are separate characters, I wont get into why here as this is long enough for a YT comment, and this entire theory could crumble from Baby's chip going into Helpy's brain...
4:00 I don't follow the lore close enough to remember, but like.. what have people said in the past about the missing people Gregory mentioned at the end of Security Breach (like the bad ending with him in the alley)? I don't think it's meant to imply people are being stuffed into animatronics or anything but like, where are those missing people going? (And they seemed to be separate from the employees that went missing after the all staff meeting, right?)
"Apologies if this is tread ground" Bold of you to assume that I absorb anything said about this franchise for more than 2 days. I love your content, don't get me wrong, but I hate the lore, I'm just here because I like how you present your theories.
Could Charlie be giving the MCI victims new life again in the animatronics AI? We’ve seen that Afton maybe managed it with Glitchtrap, so maybe after noticing that, Charlie is starting to give these souls life in bodies they have more control over.
This bakerys been cookin!! I emailed my thoughts on henry, but yes! I never hear people talking about how we might of just reset roxy in safe mode like sun/moon! And im still on burntrap being whats left of scraptrap and vanny attempting to put glitchtrap in there with willys agony. Theres still glam bon and what his deal is with the patpats too
“It’s only now that I understand the depth of the depravity of this…creature, this monster, that I unwillingly helped to create... small souls trapped in prisons of my making, now set to new purpose and used in ways I never thought imaginable.” The idea of William coercing or forcing Henry to build the funtimes sure does track with that insanity ending speech... Like you said there may be evidence that stands against it, but I can't think of any.
Something’s been scratching at the back of my mind since thinking about Cassie’s dad being Bonnie bro but the whole timeline of it being weird because someone who was a teen in the ‘80s would be a bit of an old dad: what if Bonnie Bro is Cassie’s GRANDfather instead of her dad? The player of HW2 could still be Cassie’s dad the Faz-technician, but maybe he recognized the mask because it was his father’s mask instead of his own. That, plus Obnoxas’ theory about Edwin being a parallel to Cassie’s dad, could mean that Edwin is more like Bonnie bro, and Cassie’s dad is the surviving David! Just an off-the-cuff theory, I’m more than happy to workshop it if someone notices holes!
40:25 This is an EXCELLENT theory! We were literally giving Afton the "grieving father turns murderer" arc, so why not Henry? It would also give him more purpose in the story, and maybe (like IDs Fantasy suggested) line up with the story about the snake eating kittens. He let the snake eat the kittens, but felt bad afterwards. He let Afton kill the kids, but regretted it.
i really really really like the idea that henry isn't always the good guy we thought he might've been its such a unique twist and maybe thats just because of how we've always thought about the character being the opposite of william but its really compelling and im keeping my fingers crossed that there isn't something to counter this theory 😆
I think glitchtrap/mimic lost control of Roxy initially because she got so obsessed with getting revenge on Gregory. Recognizing Cassie completely snapped her out of it, like Gregory did for Freddy. Then when she got restarted, she was in safe mode instead of being back in the mimic control. Or all the glamrocks were left with what ever programing Vanny did to them, making them agro it's not their default state.
28:55 To answer that question, if Mike is Freddy, yeah I would think Willam is Burntrap, or he is Glitchtrap in that interpretation, or that’s just how I see it. It would really be odd if Mike was the only one if Freddy was haunted.
29:30 The only angle I can see for Michael being able to possess GR!Freddy, while the other souls not being active, is the fact that Michael isn't in UCN after FNAF 6 We know William, Cassidy, Charlotte, the MCI kids, Elizabeth, and possibly Henry (if you believe him to be Old Man Consequences) are represented in that game; but there's nothing there to represent Michael
Henry dialogue at the end of simulator paints William as the villian not to mention in most theories he’s the one who locked William in the safe room so it wouldn’t make sense for him to go along with him in yo brainstorm
But those are both after william dies, after ALL of the killings. so both of those don't disprove that Henry was on his side up until building the fun time animatronics, especially if they were built for the fall fest.
@@JohnManley12 yeah but he said “what if Henry didn’t know William did it” and that would be why he’s on William side bc of the death of the crying child as well, that would mean Henry would have to be in the know bout what’s goin on
Preamp is great I hope it didn't cost you an arm and a leg cause I forgot to suggest a FetHead rather then a cloudlifter! One thing though you may just want to boost the audio a bit. Best example is your volume level in the intro is basically the level I notice most youtubers hit as I rarely need to adjust my desktop volume BUT the rest of this video was pretty quite so I had to bump up my volume and drop it back down after. In the past I think your intro and recording levels were pretty close.
Okay, one thing that people need to realize is that in Ruin, there's no way Glitchtrap is commanding the Glamrocks. If he was, why the hell would he be sending them to ATTACK Cassie? He didn't "need to do it so she would rely on the mask", she ALREADY would be reliant on the mask to deactivate the nodes and get around. And even if he did, why on earth would they kill her? Glitchtrap NEEDS Cassie to go down and free the Mimic, and to turn her into the next Vanny. There's no way he's actually the one calling the shots at the time of Ruin. However, one puzzle piece people have been shockingly quick to discard as done is M.X.E.S.. We literally see the animatronics responding to M.X.E.S.'s appearance and commands. We can't be sure how (my bets are that it was Cassie's Dad) but somehow, between Security Breach and Ruin, M.X.E.S. took Glitchtrap's place as "AI in charge". Then Glitchtrap regains that position when we deactivate M.X.E.S. at the end of the game. But for the duration of Ruin, M.X.E.S. is the one commanding the Glamrocks, not Glitchtrap.
A thought that came to me was how Ganondorf in the original legend of zelda games is how he turned into a beast and lost all humanity and it makes me think about agony and maybe it's still springtrap/burntrap but he's lost all humanity its only agony now that controls the body
Also look into burntraps model because it has those black gooey streaks all over it(mainly the inside of burntrap). I think burntrap might be fueled by agony
How do you edit all these recordings??? I have to do a second recording for me and my sister’s timeline video and the audio editing alone is killing me
I’ve said this under a few of these, but I think that burn trap and the mimic the same because of the nightmare gas of sister location, making the mimic even more grotesque
I don't think that fire gets rid of remnant cause if it did William would have died in the Fnaf 3 fire Like why did Micheal set the place on fire in the first place? Because he also read the blueprints William left behind about his expiriments! Think about it after Ennard left Micheals body, wouldn't you want to go back and look for an explaination of what the heck is going on? (like my guy was just worn as a suit by possesed robots and is now possesing his own corpse, obviously he went back to the bunker to find an explaination and in doing so also found the blueprints) So when Fnaf 3 happens he starts a fire hoping it would get rid of William but as we saw in Pizza Sim he came back as Scraptrap, meaning fire doesn't get rid of remnant/souls And Micheal couldn't have told Henry fire doesn't work as they weren't communicating, see insanity ending for what happens to "brave volunteer" who find out the plan. (which makes the whole burning Micheal with everyone else kinda a shitty thing to do cause like it means he didn't ask Micheal if he was ok with being burned alive) actually of topic but is Henry even a good guy cause with burning Micheal without asking, not stoping William and traping his own daughter in Lefty (a suit that constantly gives her controlled shocks to keep her "calm") and then burning her too, like is Henry even a good guy? But back to the topic of if fire gets rid of remnant, I'd say no cause if Micheal tried to burn William in Fnaf 3 and it didn't work why would it in Pizza Sim?
A really strong piece of evidence for Baby chip = mimic (or at least its genesis) is the fact that one of the core functions of the funtimes is voice mimicry
Long winded thoughts in defense of Glamrock Freddy having Michael’s spirit in him: Before Mimic, my assumption was the scanned circuit boards had Afton’s agony and that’s how Glitchtrap manifested. Vanny was rebuilding him and charging him in the pod. So he was still tied to burntrap but also the software. Knowing Mimic, Afton is still tied to his body. Mimic learned from the game. And Michael moved into Glamrock Freddy when he cleared the way. William “always comes back” and his experiments with remnant make him nearly immortal. Michael was injected with so much remnant he was able to possess his own body. Baby, while loyal to dear old dad, didn’t have nearly the same power as her dad and brother. The other spirits moved on. Cassidy won’t let William move to the afterlife, and Charlie is holding out for everyone to move on. That’s why the puppet is all over the pizzaplex.
That's actually a fair point, if remnant and agony help Williams stay alive, Michael should have the same properties. I still don't think Michael is in glamrock freddy, but this is a good defense on why Elizabeth wouldn't be back as well
Maybe Gregory was able to turn on Roxy? Maybe the reason Glitchtrap couldn’t turn her off remotely was Gregory was counter-hacking to keep her on so he needed help. Once she was off, Glitchtrap just stopped paying attention to her so Gregory could turn her on. Is this a bit overly complicated? Yes. Is that on brand for FNAF? Also yes
So we know that other people in universe are killed throughout the timeline. And nothing happens to their souls? No additional possesions or anything? Like the other security guards, random teens, the all staff meeting employees.
What if we put Roxy into low power mode like freddy at the beginning of the main game? So she was temporarily shut off and was able to help us when she went back online. Or she could have a backup power source that boots on when danger is detected, even though she should be disabled? Roxy can see through walls so she could also have a danger sensor or that works similarly. The sensor would not be active when she is under glitchtrap.
7:32 timing might be a bit off, I agree that could work, the reason I personally think it has potential to be Michael because if we are assuming ITS ME is the crying child (aka his brother) then him saying I am not me thematically is a good play on ITS ME, bc he’s being hacked and is not him I just like the idea there still some of the OG souls or key players but obviously it might not be
To your question on possession. I think heating gets rid of remnant if the soul wants to move on, the the MCI are gone because of happiest day. William fought to stay alive, and Cassidy kept him alive to punish him so he's burntrap or glitchtrap or both with soul splitting. I think Michael and Charlie knew William wasn't fully dead and fought to stay around and when they knew part of William had escaped they tried to go after him, resulting in Michael being able to possess Glamrock Freddy and maybe Charlie possessing the building like what Fuhnaff said, materialising the Nightmarionne plushes to tell Michael she's in charge of that part and it's Nightmarionne not the Puppet plushes as its telling William, someone tried before a more peaceful way to get rid of him, the gloves are off, they are coming for him, this means war. And Elizabeth, I think if she is still around, we haven't seen her. But I don't think she still is, she was a servant of William and I think if she thought he was going to go and didn't resist, she wouldn't either or just wasn't strong enough to resist, or as she seemed to be going crazy she could be controlling the Tangle but I doubt it. I think the MCI went first in molten Freddy as they wanted to go. Elizabeth felt that and thought William would go too and went. Michael and Charlie held on, wanting to make sure William was gone, be they felt him fighting to stay, and Cassidy keep him here, so they fought to stay to make sure William couldn't escape and that's why those 4 would be left.
I do like the idea of William manipulating Henry into making the Funtimes. It fits with William’s characterization of being manipulative. The question is fitting it into a timeline. When would William get the idea of being able to bring back his son? It pretty much has to happen after Charlie’s death, since Elizabeth has to die after the creation of the Funtimes, and the classics need the puppet to “give gifts give life”. So William kills Charlie as simple anger/revenge, but comes up with the idea to recruit Henry when he sees the puppet come to life.
Questions while I watch the video: Even if Henry had built Lefty why was it to capture only puppet? Was it to see his daughter again? How did Henry know Charlie was the puppet ever since 1987? Explanation of Ryes questions about Mike :the missing children souls are free back in fnaf 3,William afton spirit is trapped in ucn so,circus baby (EA) is merged with the blob Have a good fazday
I haven't finished watching, so I'll probably add more to my comment as I watch along, but! I am of the opinion that Roxy's second wind wasn't paranormal. I think that Gregory might have had a hand in her getting up so quickly. Think about it, throughout Ruin Gregory was trying to get into contact with Cassie, but he's unable to until the very end of Ruin. He suddenly is able to hack into the elevator speaker too, which implies he's found access into the Pizzaplex systems, including the sinkhole stuff. So, either he hacked into Roxy to give her her second wind, or alternatively, he (alongside Vanessa and possibly Freddy) were already on their way to the Pizzaplex to try and save Cassie and stop her from freeing the Mimic, allowing them to get Roxy up while they attempt to get the security system up. Addtionally, while they aren't Glamrocks, what about the little wet floor sign bots? Could they be possessed? Maybe not by spirits but something equivalent? Like, here me out--- the same way that Glamrock Freddy's AI might have gone rogue for good, could whatever is up with the cleaning bots be something paranormal but good? It'd at least partially explain why they're surrounding Glamrock Bonnie and (possibly) keeping him powered up? Either that or they're just straight up possessed by people because those things freaking cry whenever Cassie is in the AR world and she gets close enough to them.
While I agree, glitch trap/mimic probably has control of some of the vehicles in the pizza plex and probably trapped Roxy, why would he try and hit us with a go cart? It doesn't make sense for the mimic to try and hurt Cassie at that point since there's still security nodes in Bonnie Bowl and Fazer Blast
For William to corrupt both Michael and Elizabeth just to get the crying child back it would imply he really loved that a kid a lot, because otherwise there wouldn't be much motivation for the willpower to do all this, I don't think the games show that affecttion and preciousness of the child to him, and the opposite doesn't seem true too, otherwise if the crying child is in golden Freddy with Cassidy too, it wouldn't be so powerful in torturing William because the child would hold and fight Cassidy back. The main motivations the FNAF media shows for William are jealousy of Henry, and blaming him for his failures too. Saying he does everything just to get back at Henry and blame him for everything and all other people are tools to do it, seems far more solid as far as reasons for what he does. Killing the children is just his serial killer hobby, although even that might be internally justified initially as getting back at someone, maybe Henry. And his doings with Michael are just a side nuisance he has to deal with because Michael is kinda the protagonist in a way. I do think he became lost in his curiousness of experimenting bringing life back just for the sake of it though, but the amount he cares for the crying child is just okaysh levels and a little less or same for elizabeth. I do think ironically Afton got what he wanted, he certainly hurt Henry back and he is shown to have made more technological robots than Henry. The whole thing about creativity though, if Henry has more, is debatable, if you actually look at accomplishments, Afton blinds himself of his abilities in his jealousy and anger but he pretty much got what he wanted in the end. Bringing back the kids wasn't the main goal, he just wanted to get back at Henry and do his killing hobby in peace without much care. I do think he loved the idea of his company and the animatronics too though, so if he came back and had cleared his name he'd probably really try to take control of the company back.
If you're telling me GlitchTrap or whatever we are dealing with is forklift certified I fear it's too late and we've already lost
I think you may be right
Oh we’re all fucked
If the mimic IS the forklift we’re doubly fucked.
My dad was forklift certified,does that count?
@@birdmcturd1626is your name cassy?
Henry being the one to make the funtimes would explain why he (at least partially) blames himself for "all of this". Even if the child snatching features were added by William alone. Also making a robot replacement of your daughter instead of mourning the loss could definitely be described as "letting the wound bleed out."
You can see that as Henry feeling bad for steady tryna rebrand Freddie’s instead of ending it after the MCI
holy shit the henry was on aftons side until the very end theory is the wildest thing i have seen in years and i LOVE IT
Honestly it explains why Fazbear ENT. so flagrantly disregarded worker safety, especially how he was totally okay putting the volunteer in danger in Pizzeria Simulator every day before burning them on the assumption they wanted to die too...
All we did was reboot Roxy, same way we rebooted Eclipse, that’s why she turned back on, I think GlitchTrap expected his virus to be back in control but Roxy rebooted into safe mode like Freddy did
But we did a hard reboot for Eclipse? that's why Sun and Moon are no longer and why Eclipse seems to think that the Daycare will be filled with kids (even though it's clear that no kid will ever step foot in the Pizza Plex ) Eclipse was factory reset. And if Cassie truly did reboot Roxy she would have also lost her memories and been factory reset just like Sun and Moon and yet she clearly still remembers Cassie after we "reboot her".
@@3nc335 we dont know that all of that is the case, nor what we actually do to the animatronics when we use the wrench. While in real life, the things seen in ruin are similar to 'factory resets' or 'reboots', we dont know wether thats whats actually happening in universe, nor wether those things even can happen to the animatronics in universe. Rebooting in the sense of turning something off then on again has happened many times, but a reboot that actually changes how something behaves, the closest thing i can think of is disarming failsafes modes in parts and services.
We dont know what the wrench did to roxy, we dont know how she came back from what the wrench did to roxy, nor do we know if these events are similar to what the wrench did to sun and moon, and we dont even know why whatever happened to sun and moon changed them into eclipse.
It could be that, yes, the wrench deactivates and reactivates every animatronic in safe mode the same way freddy turns off and turns back on in safe mode seemingly automatically.
It could be that these three instances are completely separate and different, and any connections between them are really just circumstantial at best.
It could be that the wrench is only deactivating the animatronics, and something or someone else is reactivating them remotely.
We simply do not know, and what we claim to know is entirely based on how many assumptions we are willing to make to fill the gaps in knowledge. Personally, i like to take as small leaps as possible, keeping my thoughts as close as i can to being only whats presented, but thats bad for content so i get why youtubers have to stretch so far to get new and unique 'theories'
Also of note: the port for Roxy is part of her mask. So it’s possible we don’t even reboot Roxy, but reboot the mask. It’s possible the mask was a way to better control Roxy. It creates an AR image that restores her face, so that might be meant to calm her.
@@3nc335sun still exists as established by his little “thank you” right after eclipse removes you from the daycare
@@jc_art_ I mean it's clear we did do a hard reboot or the very least wiped Sun/Moons data and memory. Why else would he be acting like the Pizzaplex is still up and running. I know that Sun did say "Thank you" after the daycare mission but I think that was his last dying words before being reset, his final thanks to Cassie for basically putting him out of his own misery.
Now with that said why wouldn't this be the same for Roxy? The Faz-Wrench doesn't seem to have a options menu where you can pick to chose to do a soft reboot or a hard reboot or activating and deactivating a animatronic. It can activate things but only by using the wire puzzles not just jamming in the wrench holes thingy.
In my option and theory I think Roxy was hard rebooted and lost all of her data and memory including her history with Cassie. She was rebooted into safe mode which is way she now want's to protect Cassie like Freddy. Even when we Reboot Sun/Moon and wipe their data and memory Eclipse speaks all soft and caring to Cassie just like how Freddy was in safe mode.
Now how did Roxy get down there to save Cassie?? I don't know maybe her dad helped Roxy up to save her some how and some reason, If Cassie's dad is still even around or Maybe Vanessa? And the reason why Roxy still remembers Cassie's name is because she knows and can scan her guest profile including her name.
But all these questions will probably be answer in a future game lol.
You know there’s some *real* thinking when Toast gets quiet.
I really like your angle on Roxy not being a security node and instructed to be shutdown by Glitchtrap because she was no longer under control. I think there's an added element of removing the only ally Cassie had. Notably, the Mimic was hair's breadth away from grabbing Cassie until Roxy intervened.
If not for Roxy's mysterious second wind (which Glamrock Freddy also had), the Mimic would have killed Cassie.
Are the Glamrocks still controlled by Glitchtrap? I thought he was destroyed in SB and Hw2
@@3nc335 It's hard to say, honestly. Especially since we don't yet know which ending is canon from Help Wanted 2.
@@Takejiro24 Well Helpi does get corrupted sometimes in Ruin, and Cassie can only get the mask if the player of HW2 (maybe Cassie's dad) reassembles Glitchtrap or smth (that ending is really confusing), gets stuffed or some how controlling the mask bot. So he might be around in Ruin but it still doesn't make sense why Roxy isn't affect by him in Ruin?
i still don't know how girl got under a forklift, and got out from under said forklift
i mean, aside from cut gameplay segments
@@prcervi FR and how did she get up, get reactivated, then ran down the fnaf 6 place, down to the burntrap room and down to the save Cassie while blind!!!!
Just to add to the Cassie sort of shocking Roxy back to her original programing, or even possibly giveing her a bit of an AI awakening like Freddy. When Roxy grabs Cassie the 1st time and starts apologizing, Roxy specifically says "Error" when she is trying to explain what is happening to herself and Cassie. To me, this is very much a sign of the virus directive coming into direct conflict with her base programing/AI. No idea of she snapped out of ot in that exact moment or if it took some time for her internal processes to resolve the error, but it clearly sets up for her personality shift later on.
Nice catch! that makes sense if that was her awakening and breaking out of not only Glitchtrap's control but also her base programing kinda like Detroit Become Human LOL
Well, it could be Henry built the robot for sister location like the glamrocks. Innocent ideas like carrying cake, making sure kids stay in an area with the parent mimic, ect. That would explain his saying of robots set for new purposes. They weren't originally made for kidnapping and killing. Afton got ahold of them and repurposed or rebuilt them for his wants. Actually, i think this makes a lot of sense. And that is what silver eyes elude to. Henry built baby and afton took her and alters her to be the baby we know.
I like the Roxy angle you described. I think when it came to Glamrock Freddy, they made his speech vague enough to go either way on purpose (because they wanted to see which way the fans reacted before going down a route).
For me, Freddy said he "Found himself" down there and that makes me believe he found his body (like the books describe). Once he's aware he is dead, he's then a ride-along to the programming until seeing Gregory is a powerful enough memory/motivation for him to activate safe mode and take control.
You sounded fine in that bit where you were a bit further from the mic. I'm into the idea of Everyone Sucks Here.
How innocent is Henry? That subject is blowing my mind!
My only take on this so far is, personally, I think it's reversed with Carney and Lefty. I'm more prone to thinking that Lefty was a repurposed Carnie, here's why:
In Help Wanted 2, we get some glimpses of Fallfest 1970, both in the poster, the Carousel, and the shooting gallery. What these all have in common is they share a layout with the standalone area of the corn maze in the Curse of Dreadbear DLC from HW1. This may or may not be involved with the trick or treat house, graveyard, Captain Foxys Wild Adventure and the barn, as none of them offer much in area viewing, however, we can actively see parts of the corn maze and surrounding objects, such as the large water tower, in the backgrounds of all three places. This actually provides a small map of what Fallfest 1970 could have looked like if we use that water tower as "point 0."
This means, in Fallfest 1970, we have beings such as Helpy (thanks to the overhead voice being a "Carnival" Nurse and not a S.T.A.F.F. bot or Dread Unit), Carney, Sun/Moon (and the Jack-o-Moon variant), and the potential of Grim Foxy, the core 4, Captain Foxy, Balloon Boy and Dreadbear too. It's a weird mix of janky movements, furry suits, outifts, plastic bodies, and a lot of metal.
Fallfest was a product of the Freddy Fazbears corporation. As we see in the fazerblast series of games, everything ended when the park caught fire. Carrie was destroyed, the Carousel is seen with fire surrounding it, Grim Foxy.. existing at all really in the state we see him. But what remained? The core 4, who appear to be the unwithered models of Fanf 2, Balloon Boy, Helpy, and Sun/Moon. They were stored away to be repurposed later. So between the Fall of 1970 and the early 1980s, we have a gap where Circus Baby's could open, shut, and reopen as a rental, Fnaf 2 opens with repurposed animatronics, following the mold of BB, as he was likely the least damaged of them all, and, over time, someone, likely Henry, refurbished Carney and redesigned him as Lefty, his fur black, not by design, but by necessity, as no other color would be able to hide the burned, bumpy, destroyed bear underneath. This also explains why, in FNaF 6, Lefty moves so erratically, with his head bobbing and his arms moving in a way that wouldn't fit suit a musical bear. Because he wasn't. He was a carnival bear, his voice box removed, his parts barely working and his tendency to fall apart (if we are to believe some of the lawsuits of course).
Plus, if Lefty came first, then why? Why would a capture unit come before the disappearance of any children that predates even the first incident, which may or may not be between 1971 and 1981?
An interesting take!! I like this
RyeToast’s eyes are looking BLUE blue today. Love the podcast
the blue shirt makes their eyes pop so well
I noticed that too
shes always nervous lefty theory mentioned !! william manipulating henry and convincing him there's a way to bring back Charlotte! yesssssss
I guess you could argue that since Michael runs on the funtime's remnant from the scooper, after that burnt away in the fnaf6 fire the remnant from him dying could remain?
to be honest I've been thinking what if Henry never actually existed as an actual separate person. FNAF currently has a lot of Jekyll and Hyde characters going on. GGY/Gregory, Vanessa/Vanny, Sun/Moon, Glitchtrap/Mimic. What if Henry and William have been the same person this whole time? This is heavily unlikely tho and I like your theory of Henry being ok with everything until some point (possibly when he discovered Charlie was killed by William and not some mystery man.) It would also explain his deep guilt
Until proven otherwise I fully believe that the Tangle is just a mass of agony and so is Burntrap. The remnant was all burned away and all that remained was agony. The Tangle mindlessly seeks out other agony imbued objects to add to itself such as the old animatronic pieces from Rockstar Row much like how the Stitchwraith did in the books. Just like you proposed here, I think that it didn't leave the Pizzaplex until Ruin because until Ruin, the place was essentially an agony farm. It also REALLY wanted Burntrap because at that point William's remains are basically pure agony from being springlocked and burned 2 different times. That's why it's hardcore camping the FNAF 6 location. Once all the agony was absorbed, it left to find more.
I'm glad my theory was mentioned! The age thing was one of the big things I was thinking about too, but it's still quite an interesting idea.
I’ve had a theory for a while, connected to agony. It’s possible that Henry is wrong, or he is right and got rid of the souls, but that doesn’t mean the legacy that the horrors of Freddy’s is gone, so here’s my theory: There was a princess quest arcade machine at the Freddy Fazbear’s pizza place, which we see in help wanted 2, that maybe the agony of everything possessed, and the code that was put into help wanted 1, was the princess quest that we see, creating the agony Glitchtrap
I used to be on the side of mike possessed glamrock freddy but now my favorite is from TheChiptide wherein freddy's ai is trained on mike, perfect middle of the road for me
Personally, I think the “safe mode” disconnects the animatronics from the system, so it’s meant for when they’re on stage. Only thing is after Fred deactivated, then he goes into safe mode.
I've been thinking for awhile that Henry did not know Willy killed Charlie. She's found outside the place her dad works/owns with a robot he created to protect her laying on top of her. Iirc, one of the newspaper clippings talk about someone being detained for the crimes, what if it was Henry?
Afton could have used that as a way to manipulate him into helping build bots.
My thought has been that Charlie was either a genuine accident or a hit & run.
when we see afton get out of the car, maybe he's freaked about it. Maybe he had already planned to kill her to get Henry to help him and or something. But I've always found Charlie's death and even her kidnapping in the books suspicious. (Don't even get me started on Sammy.)
That would be interesting. Though I do think Henry simply didn't figure it out until later where the then turned on William.
I like the idea of Henry building the machines used to kill. Especially when you remember the line in the true ending of Pizza Sim
"Trapped in prisons of my own making" or something along those lines. Especially when you take into account the only one he specifically made was Lefty.
What are the other prisons? The funtimes as MF clearly.
Both are liable. You have to have 2nd opinion from multiple people to not waste money on a project like this, especially with deadline for opening stores. Normal projects have teams of over 10 people. I think Afton always had Henry look over his work and vice versa... having both ideas in the robots. Henry going reclusive after his kid died, and Atfon went 100% all in after his kids died. Shows both sides of how people react to trauma, and also life changing discoveries.
A little late to the party, but I could see the whole security node argument either way. Considering the fact that durring the gameplay of ruin, both chica and monty kick the bucket, and freddy is already disconnected from the network. Leaving roxy the only node left.
On the other hand, and this one requires more speculation. After the daycare section, we dont see eclips again, and realistically, neither would glitchtrap, and so, if i was an evil ai, and i saw a small child put the pointy stick in one of my minions, then it turns off and my conmection is completely separated, and i never see him, you can logically conclude that daycare attendant was just shut off, and not rebooted and had his system flushed or booted in safe mode. So, if i then needed to off one of my rouge minions, lets get the obedient child to just, do it again without expecting roxy to stand back up.
Good job, you made it to the bottom, have a cookie 🍪.
On Burntrap:
If UCN is happening after FNAF6 and is taking place inside the mind/body/remnant of William, at least his remnant wasn’t destroyed.
If UCN is continuing to occur during Security Breach, Burntrap is “possessed” but William isn’t in control. So Glitchtrap might take control of a comatose William.
Assuming Glitchtrap isn't also William, which isn't confirmed one way or the other.
Glamrock Chica was an interesting case. She makes strange sounds when we’re near her, and it’s still a mystery. At first I thought it’s an Easter egg to how FNAF 1 Chica made moaning noises, but when Matpats diagram shows how certain Glamrocks are infected, that would mean Chica is almost as corrupted as Monty, but deep down, she doesn’t want to hurt anyone or anything.
Anyone have any ideas? 🤔
When does Glamrock Chica make weird noises?
When you stand near her long enough. It typically happens when you get to the point where your free to roam the Pizzaplex. When Freddy has 3 bars of power, get Chica to chase you, hide inside Freddy, and hang around Chica for a while. You’ll hear the sounds.
I really like your argument about Roxy not being a security node, given how easy her puzzle is. But while I was thinking about it, I thought that this could be a mix of narrative and gameplay reasons.
We know that the developers wanted for us to feel bad for deactivating her, so I think that, if the puzzle was harder, maybe we could get that "Gotcha!" feeling after completing it, and that might break the emotional flow of the scene. I don't doubt that there is an in-universe explanation for that, but I feel like this was the main reason.
Good video, as always
Henry had a specific wording: "...which I let bleed out, into all this..."
He LET it happen, meaning he KNEW about it!
Damn I love the idea of William forcing Henry into the same grief to bind them together and delve into the depths of remnant revival. Fascinating stuff.
I really like the new audio quality! I'm glad I can see more of your face too lol
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5:10 Oof, sounds rough. I can't imagine being trapped in the content grind and having to stick to one topic for that long.
9:38 Do note that before Cassie called her, Roxy thought Gregory was still around, and made it very clear that she had a personal vendetta against him for mutilating her and stealing her eyes.
13:02 I don't think it was correct, as even in the blueprint it was unsure. In the novels and short stories, spirits have to be released willingly, they have to let go on their own. In Pizza Sim, all Henry did was torch the place, the only closure was his own.
17:35 Burntrap's endo looks too different from the Mimic's to really be the same thing, in my opinion. The only similarities they have are a single hand, and in the books, the Mimic is only said to reconfigure and move around existing parts, not T-1000 a new appearance. Burntrap has too much Springtrap to just be the Mimic.
20:50 Burntrap is too Afton-coded to not be William. He's in the Spring Bonnie suit, he emerges _in a cloud of purple gas,_ he's got purple eyes, and he doesn't behave _anything_ like the Mimic. Even the arm curl in his opening can come from him swinging the door open, similar to how Glitchtrap opens the pod door in HW2. Plus, in his ending scene, his arm is held a bit more outward than it looks from the front, which makes sense since he's running away from the fire.
23:00 Ooooh, that's neat!
26:30 The same thing happened with Henry, he was not part of the games until he stowed away into Pizza Sim.
39:20 Yo? Idea?
I just like Old Man Consequences because of his name.
I totally agree that Henry isn’t that innocent. There is more bad to that guy than there has been let on.
Both wanting to bring their kids back? That's insanely good!!! I definitely can see that.
I think the broken grammar and the "it is a fair trade" is actually swapping the villains. My interpretation is Glitch trap will no longer be the villain moving forward, it will be Vanny. I think her squishing him is the visual symbolism of "I'm more powerful" and kind of like a Sith motif of the apprentice kills the master and becomes the master.
I dont think that Henry was ever supposed to be this innocent bystander who tries to right wrongs as the fandom has head cannoned him as. He's kinda like our W.D. Gaster in that sense. The novels don't portray him kindly, if we believe that Mike's family in the movie is supposed to be Henry's he abandoned them, if Edwin's his stand in for Tales he's not great, and in the games he disappeared until FFPS.
In every iteration of this series Scott has alluded to the fact that Henry is kinda a POS, but because of the fact that the bar is not being a child killer, we give Henry a pass. Maybe we just thought hey he's a little neglectful, but when you put together a lot of the Henry allusions we get in this series it expands way further than that.
This will be a nice video to have while waiting for 1.6
Small souls trapped in prisons of my making, now set to new purpose, and used in ways I never thought imaginable. 38:15
This videos amazing!! You have a reason for the crying child to be first and then it be Charlie. That makes so much sense.
Things I want to know if they’re relevant or important in the series.
1. Is William Afton still in his ultimate custom night nightmare or is he finally dead for good.
2. Is glitchtrap a variation of the mimic or is he a copy of William Afton.
3. If Cassie’s dad is the Bonnie bro where are the Freddy mask bully and chica mask bully.
4. Who is the CEO of fazbear entertainment llc and what are they up to.
5. Will the blob/tangle have an important part of the story (also I personally call the tangle the cluster because it’s cooler).
1. If Frights is to be believed - dead
2. IN MY OPINION, a variation of Mimic1
3. He likely is. As for the second part, people have theorised that the Freddy bully is Mr Renner from the Tales story "Animatronic Apocalypse", we haven't any clue where the Chica bully is tho
4. No clue lol
5. Given he appeared in RUIN (tho briefly) means he's clearly being teased
I don't know but glichtrap is treated more like a virus than a out of control computer program. He wasn't intentionally downloaded but is a stow away that was scanned in fron old circutbords which couldn't have come from the mimic which we later find verry much intact in Ruin DLC.
Glichtrap has seemingly super natural abilitys like mind control and the ability to directly control any machinery in the area.
The mimic has none of those abilitys glichtrap has and can only mimic people's voices.
So far I don't think the mimic is glichtrap theory is true. It just relys on to many assumptions and stretches to make it happen. It also makes things way more complicated than it needs to be
@@f.a.cbeauty4355 nope that's just a headcanon
1. I would assume ultimate custom night or is now glitch trap. I lean more towards the former than later.
2. Yes, regardless of if William is possessing it or not, we know that glitchtrap is a program with his data. That program is implied to be part of the mimic1 code set.
3. Either dead or will be brought up in some future project.
4. If I had to guess phone dude from FNAF 3 is a likely contender. I would assume he would be a Sammy like character (Henry's son) using his connection to his father to search abandoned Fazbear sites to get merchandise without getting sued to hell and back.
5. Most likely, yes. At minimum, it is a mass of agony from Fazbear's latest victims. If William Afton's spirit is still in the picture then it would likely be there and taking it over.
What if tho... Wiliam knew that Henry could find his blueprints if something happened to him. So he wrote that bit about overheating on purpose because he knew something much more potent came out of the remnant? Perhaps that coudve been his way of making sure that even after his death there still would be something he would left his mark on if he would not be able to do that personally. Not sure how to continue this but perhaps that could be a reason the animatronics are still acting like that even tho the activity shoud be if anything much more sparse.
I'm feeling very confident that Lefty was designed AFTER Henry got the design documents from Afton Robotics. Which is partly why Henry held onto the plans in that computer: To use Afton's ideas in order to build a robot to capture the Puppet.
Furthermore, I think Henry was using Afton's funtime designs in order to further his goal of gathering all the animatronics to one place to destroy them.
Mild theory for Roxy: does agony have to come from physical pain? We know that Cassie had a birthday party at the pizzaplex that nobody showed up to (except for Gregory, who probably joined somewhat late). Roxy's voice lines before she gets shut down imply that she was there comforting Cassie to some degree. What if Roxy is infused with the agony of a child all alone at their own birthday party? If this is a form of agony that exists, it would definitely be less...powerful?...than what you get from being shoved into a suit. Maybe just enough to turn her back on and nudge her down the stairs. Once Roxy realizes that Cassie is in danger, her AI would probably tell her to protect Cassie, no possession required
Tbh, the only way the Michael is Glamrock Freddy theory works for me is if Michael decided to escape the fire, as Henry had given him the option to, and he died of other means or decided to abandon his body since he's dead anyways and his body is just going to continue to rot no matter what he does and he happened upon Freddy. Bro probably said "fuck it. This will do and I can monitor the situation from here just in case"
“Carni is a re purposed Lefty”? Ry, you have the name’s backwards Lefty came AFTER Carni did
Oooh I LOVE the theory that William killed Charlie not in revenge but to get Henry's genius on his side. That could help explain why they kept opening up new Freddy locations and the bots kept getting more sophisticated as hunters and predators considering Henry was supposed to be the genius engineer. If true, I wonder how he learned that it was William that killed Charlie? Did he somehow find Mike's handbook or have an encounter with one of the more intelligent haunted animatronics? It's narratively satisfying that the two people William abused and manipulated into helping him were the ones to finally take him out.
1- i don think any of the glamrocks are really possessed. i think it was you who i heard it from, but i think theyre ai becoming sentient. i think glamrock freddy may have been taught to be similar to mike afton. i dont think gregory is cc, vanessa is elizabeth, and freddy is mike. i think theyre picked by the mimic because hes trying to recreate the aftons, him being william. i think we might even see them change to become their own characters more overtime because i think the mimic was changing them to fit the afton family.
2- i dont think roxie was actually a security node. i think the mimic saw her as a threat because she was reacting to cassie like freddy reacted to gregory. he doesnt want the problem repeated.
3- i dont think we'd be given information on how remnant could be undone and then it doesnt work at all. i think agony is still there, but i think the fire freed the spirits. i think remnant, agony, and spirits are all separate things. (though i think agony was considered a type of remnant in the books?) i dont think the blob is possessed by spirits, i think its just running on agony. maybe agony is just harder to get rid of completely. then the mimic's actions are adding to it as well.
4- i think fnaf 1-6 was one story, and help wanted 1 on is a new one. i think the only real connection is the blob and the mimic/glitchtrap. i think glitchtrap is a digital version of the ai that is now in the mimic. i think glitchtrap originally wanted to be put into afton's corpse. but burntrap didnt work, so he went into the mimic. i like the idea that he used to be part of the blob. maybe thats why he got yoinked in the ending. the blob wanted him back.
5- if the mimic really is an older animatronic, and it couldve been made by someone we already know, i think that could be why he knows so much about william. maybe he was even made by william to begin with. probably before working with remnant. he wanted life-like robots, so a mimic would be the closest he could get before he learns about remnant and possession. i think henry is more likely to have made him though. i think edwin is probably a stand in for him. but i think itd be really interesting if it was actually cassie's dad. im not sure where the agony wouldve come from though. i dont think we have enough information on him to really decide that, but it is possible.
6- i hope we get a fall fest game as one of the next ones. i think the funtimes being fall fest characters, and carnie being repurposed into lefty is an interesting thought. especially if henry made lefty. i always thought that "henry good william bad" was weird. i think william killing charlie to henry to help him is really interesting! i dont think its likely, but ill probably adopt it as a headcanon of mine ^^
7- ive always thought omc was just a reaper sorta thing. helping spirits move on. but now with princess quest im not really sure? i guess it could still be a sort of spirit guardian. maybe he sticks around because fazbear entertainment has fucked up so many things. i feel like messing with souls and creating a type of immortality is probably extremely forbidden in most beliefs. i think omc is there to keep track of the people who do and do what he can to prevent/stop the people doing it.
What I think.
1. What if instead of being possessed by ghost the modern animatronics are instead haunted by agony or perhaps something completely new, or maybe a few of the animatronics are getting possessed while others are still just mere AI’s.
2. I’m personally under the belief that the mimic and burntrap are 2 complete separate entities, I think burntrap is just the body glitchtrap used to interact with the real world, also if the tales books are canon to the games I think the corpse on burntrap belongs to a boy named luca.
3. I think it’s possible that Cassie’s dad could possibly become a physical vessel for glitchtrap or the mimic AI.
28:45 Yes! Absolutely 100%. As a GlamMike believer, I do believe that if Michael Afton can possess Glamrock Freddy, then the same can hold true for Charlie, Elizabeth, the MCI, and William.
I already think that Elizabeth possesses Vanessa as the Vanny persona in some Jekyll and Hyde situation. I think that because of Vanny's childish personality, ghostly echoes on her voicelines in Help Wanted and cut voicelines in Security Breach, and her audio of a giggling little girl that was cut in SB. I think it also ties into Vanessa's backstory seemingly aligning with William's? Or how her dad's name was Bill?
One litteral shower though I had. What if the blob is just the Fun time programing in the cables reacting to abduct "children" but because the damage tge just snap at anything they see as living
Freddy could be just a robot or possessed by Michael and I wouldn’t be surprised either way.
He definitely not Mike since William isn’t glitchtrap
@@Sonicmid Eh 🤷🏻♂️
38:13 Cassette Man does say "a wound, first inflicted on me, that I let bleed out, into all this", which sounds to me like he knew or atleast knows now that Afton killed Cassette Mans daughter, however in that same tape he also says "Small souls trapped in *prisons of my making,* now set to *new purpose* ", which does support your idea of Cassette Man helping Afton build the funtimes and left-e with trapping in mind. Specifically because he says he made the prisons the souls were trapped in, it sounds to me like he made the traps and the prisons, and Afton just set them to new purpose afterward. Your idea that Cassette Man helped Afton build the funtimes and left-e with the purpose to trap and contain, only afterwards Afton set them to the purpose of killing kids, makes sense to me. The main argument i have against it is that the unnamed voice at the start of sister location almost directly says Afton built these things when he says, "theres no doubting what *youve* (only talking about Afton) achieved on a technical level, *these* (referring to multiple animatronics, likely all the funtimes) are clearly state of the art, there are just certain design choices that were made for *these robots* (once again referring to multiple robots, likely all funtimes) that we dont fully understand. We were hoping you could shed some light on those." Then later "With all due respect, those werent the design choices we were curious about, mr Afton." This all points to Afton being the main, or only, one to build the funtimes, and more likely than not, the only one who built and added the luring and trapping mechanisms that we see in sister location and FFPS.
Based on all of the information so far, i would conclude that Cassette Man likely was not involved with building the funtimes or the trapping mechanisms, and instead the line about the souls trapped in prisons he made set to new purpose, was referring to the freddy's characters and how he built them and Afton set them to new purpose post 'Follow Me', or perhaps even referring to Post 'MCI' and how the children were stuffed.
Disagree with you on a lot of things in your theories, but you always bring up great info and evidence. So, I leave my video engagement and like!
Here’s an interesting theory to try and explain Roxanne coming back suddenly online, it’s much the same conundrum as what Glamrock Freddy had with his “Second wind”, could be the machines own will power, though this falls under Detroit become human territory but what if the animatronics are reveling a certain code to act as the primary which will the equivalent to a soul or a heart.
As going by this when you mention Roxanne hearing Cassie and recognizing her and realizing she’s hurting a child, but with Monty and Chica, they straight up don’t respond like Roxanne did, Monty even attacks Cassie after hearing her.
Thus there’s a unique connection Roxanne has made a primary coding unlike Monty and Chica, much like with Gregory and Freddy, a personal override, an emotional attachment that can just turn them on. Though that’s just a theory to chew on with maybe some frosting…I think I made a cupcake theory…
Edit: adding this so I ain’t annoying with notifications, but I think looking at the blob being the result of FFPS fire would also be paired with a recent thought. That if one where to use stitchline, it directly prove William wrong in that sense as he and TOYSNHK be ejected, TOYSNHK was able to keep William within his own body which being in the fire should be impossible.
I really love the idea of the story being about two grieving engineers willing to do anything to bring their children back at any cost and the echoing repercussions of their actions, it def makes the story a lot more interesting and does make more sense when you consider how everything went down yet Henry did little to nothing to stop William
As an answer to the question about possession on the newer games, i am uncertain about Michael being Glamrock Freddy, but i absolutely think that Burntrap, and by proxy Glitchtrap, are William. The reason I believe this to be the case is that:
1- We know a "vengeful spirit" is capable of keeping someone tethered to life, *even after the body has been burned*, as described in the Fazbear Frights story "The man in room 1280".
2 - If Cassidy and the PQ princess are indeed one and the same, we can assume she would still be keeping William from death/in UCN up until Help Wanted, as she would be still around by the time Security Breach happens. Refusing to move on like the other missing kids (Plus proves a soul can become a digital character).
3 - We have seen spirits in this franchise remain "haunting" an object, in spite of *being able to move on*, if they wish to stay around, which applies for Cassidy post FNAF 6 and William post HW1.
4 - Glitchtrap being William's soul in virtual form explains multiple flaws in the argument that it is just "the mimic program copying Afton", for instance the choice of a fabric, stitched spring bonnie suit for it's own image (why and how does it know what it looked like); the use of "I always come back" in PQI(the only times Afton says this is after jumpscares of FNAF 6, UCN and the fnaf 3 trailer); the insistence on using the burnt and damaged body of Scraptrap instead of a brand new endo; etc.
5 - All animatronics that are under *direct control* of Glitchtrap seem to have purple eyes, as seen with Burntrap and Freddy, while others that have been reprogramed or just connected to the V.A.N.N.I network have the same *red* glowing eyes as Vanny's mask.
This also assumes Burntrap and Ruin's Mimic are separate characters, I wont get into why here as this is long enough for a YT comment, and this entire theory could crumble from Baby's chip going into Helpy's brain...
4:00 I don't follow the lore close enough to remember, but like.. what have people said in the past about the missing people Gregory mentioned at the end of Security Breach (like the bad ending with him in the alley)?
I don't think it's meant to imply people are being stuffed into animatronics or anything but like, where are those missing people going? (And they seemed to be separate from the employees that went missing after the all staff meeting, right?)
"Apologies if this is tread ground"
Bold of you to assume that I absorb anything said about this franchise for more than 2 days. I love your content, don't get me wrong, but I hate the lore, I'm just here because I like how you present your theories.
Could Charlie be giving the MCI victims new life again in the animatronics AI? We’ve seen that Afton maybe managed it with Glitchtrap, so maybe after noticing that, Charlie is starting to give these souls life in bodies they have more control over.
I love your videos :)
This bakerys been cookin!! I emailed my thoughts on henry, but yes! I never hear people talking about how we might of just reset roxy in safe mode like sun/moon!
And im still on burntrap being whats left of scraptrap and vanny attempting to put glitchtrap in there with willys agony.
Theres still glam bon and what his deal is with the patpats too
“It’s only now that I understand the depth of the depravity of this…creature, this monster, that I unwillingly helped to create... small souls trapped in prisons of my making, now set to new purpose and used in ways I never thought imaginable.”
The idea of William coercing or forcing Henry to build the funtimes sure does track with that insanity ending speech...
Like you said there may be evidence that stands against it, but I can't think of any.
Something’s been scratching at the back of my mind since thinking about Cassie’s dad being Bonnie bro but the whole timeline of it being weird because someone who was a teen in the ‘80s would be a bit of an old dad: what if Bonnie Bro is Cassie’s GRANDfather instead of her dad? The player of HW2 could still be Cassie’s dad the Faz-technician, but maybe he recognized the mask because it was his father’s mask instead of his own. That, plus Obnoxas’ theory about Edwin being a parallel to Cassie’s dad, could mean that Edwin is more like Bonnie bro, and Cassie’s dad is the surviving David!
Just an off-the-cuff theory, I’m more than happy to workshop it if someone notices holes!
40:25 This is an EXCELLENT theory! We were literally giving Afton the "grieving father turns murderer" arc, so why not Henry? It would also give him more purpose in the story, and maybe (like IDs Fantasy suggested) line up with the story about the snake eating kittens. He let the snake eat the kittens, but felt bad afterwards. He let Afton kill the kids, but regretted it.
i really really really like the idea that henry isn't always the good guy we thought he might've been
its such a unique twist and maybe thats just because of how we've always thought about the character being the opposite of william but its really compelling and im keeping my fingers crossed that there isn't something to counter this theory 😆
I think glitchtrap/mimic lost control of Roxy initially because she got so obsessed with getting revenge on Gregory. Recognizing Cassie completely snapped her out of it, like Gregory did for Freddy. Then when she got restarted, she was in safe mode instead of being back in the mimic control. Or all the glamrocks were left with what ever programing Vanny did to them, making them agro it's not their default state.
this whole thing was a 🤓moment, and I loved it, we're so lucky to have you as a part of the FNAF community, Rye.
28:55 To answer that question, if Mike is Freddy, yeah I would think Willam is Burntrap, or he is Glitchtrap in that interpretation, or that’s just how I see it. It would really be odd if Mike was the only one if Freddy was haunted.
29:30 The only angle I can see for Michael being able to possess GR!Freddy, while the other souls not being active, is the fact that Michael isn't in UCN after FNAF 6
We know William, Cassidy, Charlotte, the MCI kids, Elizabeth, and possibly Henry (if you believe him to be Old Man Consequences) are represented in that game; but there's nothing there to represent Michael
Henry dialogue at the end of simulator paints William as the villian not to mention in most theories he’s the one who locked William in the safe room so it wouldn’t make sense for him to go along with him in yo brainstorm
But those are both after william dies, after ALL of the killings. so both of those don't disprove that Henry was on his side up until building the fun time animatronics, especially if they were built for the fall fest.
@@JohnManley12 yeah but he said “what if Henry didn’t know William did it” and that would be why he’s on William side bc of the death of the crying child as well, that would mean Henry would have to be in the know bout what’s goin on
Preamp is great I hope it didn't cost you an arm and a leg cause I forgot to suggest a FetHead rather then a cloudlifter! One thing though you may just want to boost the audio a bit. Best example is your volume level in the intro is basically the level I notice most youtubers hit as I rarely need to adjust my desktop volume BUT the rest of this video was pretty quite so I had to bump up my volume and drop it back down after. In the past I think your intro and recording levels were pretty close.
I think Burntrap is just Scraptrap with William's agony
Okay, one thing that people need to realize is that in Ruin, there's no way Glitchtrap is commanding the Glamrocks. If he was, why the hell would he be sending them to ATTACK Cassie? He didn't "need to do it so she would rely on the mask", she ALREADY would be reliant on the mask to deactivate the nodes and get around. And even if he did, why on earth would they kill her? Glitchtrap NEEDS Cassie to go down and free the Mimic, and to turn her into the next Vanny. There's no way he's actually the one calling the shots at the time of Ruin.
However, one puzzle piece people have been shockingly quick to discard as done is M.X.E.S.. We literally see the animatronics responding to M.X.E.S.'s appearance and commands. We can't be sure how (my bets are that it was Cassie's Dad) but somehow, between Security Breach and Ruin, M.X.E.S. took Glitchtrap's place as "AI in charge". Then Glitchtrap regains that position when we deactivate M.X.E.S. at the end of the game. But for the duration of Ruin, M.X.E.S. is the one commanding the Glamrocks, not Glitchtrap.
A thought that came to me was how Ganondorf in the original legend of zelda games is how he turned into a beast and lost all humanity and it makes me think about agony and maybe it's still springtrap/burntrap but he's lost all humanity its only agony now that controls the body
Also look into burntraps model because it has those black gooey streaks all over it(mainly the inside of burntrap). I think burntrap might be fueled by agony
How do you edit all these recordings??? I have to do a second recording for me and my sister’s timeline video and the audio editing alone is killing me
You forgot to talk about some v important SB bots: the STAFFBots and the probability of them being the missing staff
I think "maybe there no good people" better cold open, then the one that ended up being here
I’ve said this under a few of these, but I think that burn trap and the mimic the same because of the nightmare gas of sister location, making the mimic even more grotesque
I don't think that fire gets rid of remnant cause if it did William would have died in the Fnaf 3 fire
Like why did Micheal set the place on fire in the first place? Because he also read the blueprints William left behind about his expiriments!
Think about it after Ennard left Micheals body, wouldn't you want to go back and look for an explaination of what the heck is going on?
(like my guy was just worn as a suit by possesed robots and is now possesing his own corpse, obviously he went back to the bunker to find an explaination and in doing so also found the blueprints)
So when Fnaf 3 happens he starts a fire hoping it would get rid of William but as we saw in Pizza Sim he came back as Scraptrap, meaning fire doesn't get rid of remnant/souls
And Micheal couldn't have told Henry fire doesn't work as they weren't communicating, see insanity ending for what happens to "brave volunteer" who find out the plan. (which makes the whole burning Micheal with everyone else kinda a shitty thing to do cause like it means he didn't ask Micheal if he was ok with being burned alive)
actually of topic but is Henry even a good guy cause with burning Micheal without asking, not stoping William and traping his own daughter in Lefty (a suit that constantly gives her controlled shocks to keep her "calm") and then burning her too, like is Henry even a good guy?
But back to the topic of if fire gets rid of remnant, I'd say no cause if Micheal tried to burn William in Fnaf 3 and it didn't work why would it in Pizza Sim?
This would make the HW 2 death order make sence too!!!! 😮
However ~ “there is a possibility of agony” lol same though
Could Roxxy reactivating and saving Cassie happen from some kind of safe mode?
A really strong piece of evidence for Baby chip = mimic (or at least its genesis) is the fact that one of the core functions of the funtimes is voice mimicry
Long winded thoughts in defense of Glamrock Freddy having Michael’s spirit in him:
Before Mimic, my assumption was the scanned circuit boards had Afton’s agony and that’s how Glitchtrap manifested. Vanny was rebuilding him and charging him in the pod. So he was still tied to burntrap but also the software. Knowing Mimic, Afton is still tied to his body. Mimic learned from the game. And Michael moved into Glamrock Freddy when he cleared the way. William “always comes back” and his experiments with remnant make him nearly immortal. Michael was injected with so much remnant he was able to possess his own body. Baby, while loyal to dear old dad, didn’t have nearly the same power as her dad and brother. The other spirits moved on. Cassidy won’t let William move to the afterlife, and Charlie is holding out for everyone to move on. That’s why the puppet is all over the pizzaplex.
That's actually a fair point, if remnant and agony help Williams stay alive, Michael should have the same properties. I still don't think Michael is in glamrock freddy, but this is a good defense on why Elizabeth wouldn't be back as well
Maybe Gregory was able to turn on Roxy? Maybe the reason Glitchtrap couldn’t turn her off remotely was Gregory was counter-hacking to keep her on so he needed help. Once she was off, Glitchtrap just stopped paying attention to her so Gregory could turn her on. Is this a bit overly complicated? Yes. Is that on brand for FNAF? Also yes
So we know that other people in universe are killed throughout the timeline. And nothing happens to their souls? No additional possesions or anything? Like the other security guards, random teens, the all staff meeting employees.
What if we put Roxy into low power mode like freddy at the beginning of the main game? So she was temporarily shut off and was able to help us when she went back online. Or she could have a backup power source that boots on when danger is detected, even though she should be disabled? Roxy can see through walls so she could also have a danger sensor or that works similarly. The sensor would not be active when she is under glitchtrap.
7:32 timing might be a bit off, I agree that could work, the reason I personally think it has potential to be Michael because if we are assuming ITS ME is the crying child (aka his brother) then him saying I am not me thematically is a good play on ITS ME, bc he’s being hacked and is not him I just like the idea there still some of the OG souls or key players but obviously it might not be
Yesss my lunch is saved
To your question on possession. I think heating gets rid of remnant if the soul wants to move on, the the MCI are gone because of happiest day. William fought to stay alive, and Cassidy kept him alive to punish him so he's burntrap or glitchtrap or both with soul splitting. I think Michael and Charlie knew William wasn't fully dead and fought to stay around and when they knew part of William had escaped they tried to go after him, resulting in Michael being able to possess Glamrock Freddy and maybe Charlie possessing the building like what Fuhnaff said, materialising the Nightmarionne plushes to tell Michael she's in charge of that part and it's Nightmarionne not the Puppet plushes as its telling William, someone tried before a more peaceful way to get rid of him, the gloves are off, they are coming for him, this means war. And Elizabeth, I think if she is still around, we haven't seen her. But I don't think she still is, she was a servant of William and I think if she thought he was going to go and didn't resist, she wouldn't either or just wasn't strong enough to resist, or as she seemed to be going crazy she could be controlling the Tangle but I doubt it. I think the MCI went first in molten Freddy as they wanted to go. Elizabeth felt that and thought William would go too and went. Michael and Charlie held on, wanting to make sure William was gone, be they felt him fighting to stay, and Cassidy keep him here, so they fought to stay to make sure William couldn't escape and that's why those 4 would be left.
I do like the idea of William manipulating Henry into making the Funtimes. It fits with William’s characterization of being manipulative.
The question is fitting it into a timeline. When would William get the idea of being able to bring back his son?
It pretty much has to happen after Charlie’s death, since Elizabeth has to die after the creation of the Funtimes, and the classics need the puppet to “give gifts give life”.
So William kills Charlie as simple anger/revenge, but comes up with the idea to recruit Henry when he sees the puppet come to life.
I think leaning on thematics when it leaves stuff unexplained, like the "I found myself" line is a bit too much of a hole
What about the Wet Floor Bots? Especially now that we know that Map Bot is possessed
Questions while I watch the video:
Even if Henry had built Lefty why was it to capture only puppet?
Was it to see his daughter again?
How did Henry know Charlie was the puppet ever since 1987?
Explanation of Ryes questions about Mike :the missing children souls are free back in fnaf 3,William afton spirit is trapped in ucn so,circus baby (EA) is merged with the blob
Have a good fazday
I haven't finished watching, so I'll probably add more to my comment as I watch along, but! I am of the opinion that Roxy's second wind wasn't paranormal. I think that Gregory might have had a hand in her getting up so quickly. Think about it, throughout Ruin Gregory was trying to get into contact with Cassie, but he's unable to until the very end of Ruin. He suddenly is able to hack into the elevator speaker too, which implies he's found access into the Pizzaplex systems, including the sinkhole stuff. So, either he hacked into Roxy to give her her second wind, or alternatively, he (alongside Vanessa and possibly Freddy) were already on their way to the Pizzaplex to try and save Cassie and stop her from freeing the Mimic, allowing them to get Roxy up while they attempt to get the security system up.
Addtionally, while they aren't Glamrocks, what about the little wet floor sign bots? Could they be possessed? Maybe not by spirits but something equivalent? Like, here me out--- the same way that Glamrock Freddy's AI might have gone rogue for good, could whatever is up with the cleaning bots be something paranormal but good? It'd at least partially explain why they're surrounding Glamrock Bonnie and (possibly) keeping him powered up? Either that or they're just straight up possessed by people because those things freaking cry whenever Cassie is in the AR world and she gets close enough to them.
While I agree, glitch trap/mimic probably has control of some of the vehicles in the pizza plex and probably trapped Roxy, why would he try and hit us with a go cart? It doesn't make sense for the mimic to try and hurt Cassie at that point since there's still security nodes in Bonnie Bowl and Fazer Blast
For William to corrupt both Michael and Elizabeth just to get the crying child back it would imply he really loved that a kid a lot, because otherwise there wouldn't be much motivation for the willpower to do all this, I don't think the games show that affecttion and preciousness of the child to him, and the opposite doesn't seem true too, otherwise if the crying child is in golden Freddy with Cassidy too, it wouldn't be so powerful in torturing William because the child would hold and fight Cassidy back.
The main motivations the FNAF media shows for William are jealousy of Henry, and blaming him for his failures too. Saying he does everything just to get back at Henry and blame him for everything and all other people are tools to do it, seems far more solid as far as reasons for what he does. Killing the children is just his serial killer hobby, although even that might be internally justified initially as getting back at someone, maybe Henry. And his doings with Michael are just a side nuisance he has to deal with because Michael is kinda the protagonist in a way. I do think he became lost in his curiousness of experimenting bringing life back just for the sake of it though, but the amount he cares for the crying child is just okaysh levels and a little less or same for elizabeth.
I do think ironically Afton got what he wanted, he certainly hurt Henry back and he is shown to have made more technological robots than Henry. The whole thing about creativity though, if Henry has more, is debatable, if you actually look at accomplishments, Afton blinds himself of his abilities in his jealousy and anger but he pretty much got what he wanted in the end. Bringing back the kids wasn't the main goal, he just wanted to get back at Henry and do his killing hobby in peace without much care. I do think he loved the idea of his company and the animatronics too though, so if he came back and had cleared his name he'd probably really try to take control of the company back.