There is a ROM hack of Emerald called Delta Emerald that includes stuff like Mega Evolution, Fairy Type, and the Battle Frontier. It’s worth checking out
@@baronvonslambert We would've gotten Lightning Yellow or Spirit Crystal by now by that logic Let's Go doesn't count, that's mostly just an ad designed to hook up the Go players to the mainline series
😂a terrible remaster with BDSP that gamefreak didn't even make, and a glorified open world beta test with PLA that barely resembles Sinnoh. they did Gen 4 fans dirty as fuck. at least Renegade Platinum with the following patch exist.
I was so pissed when they remade D/P man😔 i was really hoping for a platinum remake. It what it is tho, so we gotta live with what they gave us unfortunately.
Yeah oras is the remaster and a fun way to play but not the definitive way imo. Rse are. Heart hold and soul silver are good remakes because they’re still 98% faithful to the originals so they can be the definitive way to play gen 2 imo since there’s not many changes compared to rse and oras
I also have a proposal for how to decide which game is better! Emerald is better, because in Lavaridge Town there is the sand where you can walk into and it looks like you lay in the sand. Since ORAS is 3D this is not possible in the remake! Case Closed :D
I think Emerald and ORAS are equally valid. The former has the Battle Frontier and Gym Rematches while the latter has DexNav, Physical/Special Split, Mega Evolution, Delta Episode, but they left out the Battle Frontier I legit think that Game Freak should port ORAS to the Switch or its successor with features from Emerald added. Hell, maybe even add even more Pokemon to the Regional PokeDex like having the Gen 4 Pokemon who appeared in the anime prior to their games being released be added for example. They could keep Steven as Champion though but perhaps have Juan as a superboss like with Steven in Emerald.
@@misterzygarde6431 If i had to give someone a recap of what version they want to play: 1- If you want story and post game content= Emerald 2- if you QOL with megas and Physical/special split= Oras
Well there is one thing I don't remember being brought up and that is the physical special split making it so you no longer can't really use pokemon that have stats that don't align with there typing, that's one for oras
The physical special split is more of a side-grade that can be argued as a plus or minus rather than an objective improvement. It feels like a straight benefit at first because it's a quick fix to poorly designed Pokemon like Hitmonchan, which was clearly intended to have the niche of elemental punch coverage over Hitmonlee, yet can't realistically use these moves with its poor Special Attack. However, there are other Pokemon that realize this kind of idea properly, such as Gengar, which doesn't have the right stat layout to use either of its STABs yet is still viable offensively with coverage moves like Thunderbolt while still being able to benefit from its typing defensively. The physical special split removes this possibility by making every combination of typing and stat layout able to rely on STABs, homogenizing the design space and makes individual Pokemon less distinctive. Unfortunately, not enough Pokemon were actually balanced around the original mechanics (for example, Pokemon with unviable STABs like Sneasel should generally have had higher BST and/or better abilities). Nonetheless, there is enough there that for example Gen 3 is in retrospect considered one of if not the best OU metagames of all time (there are other factors involved like powercreep, but this is definitely one).
...and one point to RSE for overral look. i really like the saturated colors of RSE. meanwhile ORAS definitely upgraded some places, i dont like how washed certain places look
ORAS is weird like I cannot ever call it the definitive Hoenn game as a remake like what HGSS did for the og GSC. But it’s probably the last if not only modern Pokemon games with the least amount of issues to the point where from a gameplay level, I think its the closest Pokemon game to perfecting the older non open zone/world style Pokémon game (shame gen 7 and 8 were downgrades in that aspect)
I'm playing through Omega Ruby on 3DS currently. Got it before the 3DS eShop shut down. I'll say this much: OR is just so refreshing to play after the disjointed Pokémon Violet. OR might not be as feature rich as Emerald from all the missing content, but it is far more focused on a consistent pace than even the majority of 3DS Pokémon version games. I just wish we had a more depth filled Pokémon version game like the B&W 2 games.
This is well said, and matches my thoughts too. ORAS feel cohesive and focused in a way that the switch titles don't. ORAS feels like a polished product. SV by contrast is unpolished, like a turd
I pretty much agree with the conclusion. If you're not going to make a definitive remake of a game, at least make a game that is worth playing for its own reasons.
Exactly why I did not want DP remakes, and why I wanted remakes of platinum. For the same reason I never even wanted ruby and sapphire remakes because I always just wanted Emerald remakes. I would not want BW remakes if they don’t Also plan to remake BW2.
@@Holy_Crusader Thinking about it, that's a new reason i doubt we'll ever get Unova remakes, cause they'll either HAVE to do the sequels eventually separately or somehow fit the sequels in as one remade package like Another Code Recollection/the upcoming Dragon Quest 1&2 remake, which Gamefreak doesn't exactly instill confidence in their ability to do so atm. I dont think they can hit Gen 5 with the BDSP approach for this reason either.
@@ObrigadaJim i didn’t want legends arceus lol, the game is extremely overrated. The game isn’t as good as platinum and didn’t quite hit the same as platinum, legends arceus was also semi open world which I dislike, ruins replayability imo. I would have preferred a platinum remake aka a more linear Pokémon game, not a DP remake or a legends game, a platinum remake has more replayability then legends arceus, legends arceus is just grindy, the overworld feels empty with very little to do. I am strongly against the open world direction that Pokémon games have been heading in. I got bored of legends arceus after 3 times that I replayed the game, can’t ever say I got bored of replaying platinum.
@ that’s why I think they ditched unova remakes despite having obvious unova hints in the dlc of SV, they probably originally had plans to remake unova but they probably realized that their would be tons of negativity if they remade BW and completely ignored BW2. They are better off remaking GSC instead of BW/BW2. Even then I would prefer if GSC remakes also included a lot of or most of the content from HGSS, if I am not mistaken HGSS includes the entirety of Kanto where as in the original GSC Kanto was more limited in terms of exploration.
For some reason, seeing all the good things that ORAS brought to the table makes me wish Game Freak added Emerald content to ORAS even more. If Game Freak actually went through the work adding Emerald to ORAS while adding all the brilliant changes they made, we could've had a remake that was just as good as if not better than HGSS. But alas, it never came to be...
@@V-JesHGSS is a better remake since it actually keeps all of the content from GSC while adding more on top. There was also plenty of weird stuff that GSC had that ended up being improved or fixed in HGSS the idea that HGSS fixed nothing is false. If ORAS actually had Emerald content then they’d be on par with HGSS imo.
@@CEDL0W Most small changes from Krystal weren't kept in HGSS and the only noteworthy addition from Krystal was JUST the Suicune event and nothing else (and HGSS screws that up...) outside of graphical upgrades so it wasn't hard to keep all the noteworthy changes stuff to HGSS, meanwhile if ORAS kept all the Emeralds content it would objectively be a worse game because most Emerald additions aren't good at all like the useless phone that just wastes players time, the Team Magma base where you get random encounters and is a waste of time anyways because you accomplish nothing there, having to deal with more water routes that everyone hates, removal of an actual battle with the legendary to end the Team Magma/Aqua plot as that's replaced by a cutscene in Emerald, downgrading the champion with a Gym leader etc etc, while even in Battle Frontier what has 7 facilities yet only ONE of them is good (Battle Factory) with the rest being just complete garbage what is why nobody plays those these days and is the reason why those keep getting cut in modern games thanks to online battling and raids completely replaced single player battle facilities because the players actually play those...
@ I don’t expect ORAS to keep all of the story changes of Emerald they are still Ruby and Sapphire after all but it should’ve had the obvious improvements like the gym teams and being able to rematch them or heck the double trainer encounter thing emerald did so that the generation that introduced double battles could have more then like 5 of them in the game. Had the battle frontier existed in ORAS it obviously wouldn’t have been a copy and paste of the original it would’ve had quality of life changes especially by Gen 6, and it not being in ORAS was a huge missed opportunity to polish up some of the more annoying battle facilities. The Suicune plot had to change a bit to make room for Ho-oh and Lugia since they’re still the main legends, in Crystal Ho-oh and Lugia were postgame only and the suicune stuff was front and center so they swapped it in HGSS as it would’ve been odd to just have these two legendary plots end at the same time. The changes to the cell phone system, the password show and the extreme speed Dratini reward are all kept from crystal. The only notable Crystal thing missing that I can remember is the odd egg which was an event download in the Japanese version and only added into the base game with the other regions. It’s not that people didn’t like battle facilities it’s that they stopped making good ones. Sword and Shield’s battle tower was terrible they didn’t even try with that one, but if given the option most would trade raids for a modern PWT.
HGSS is a faithful remake of a bad game, GEN2 is the worst pokemon gen excluding 8 and 9, the pokemon selection and level curve is terrible. Why are the highest levels you can find in the wild 30, before the elite 4 16 badges into the game??????
I have to go with Emerald myself. I really liked the story changes they made to RS and I was disappointed they weren't kept for ORAS. Groudon made sense to be in a volcano, I wanted to see a 3D version of Rayquaza bursting through the sky. I think the biggest shame is that ORAS mixed with Emerald would've made the definitive Hoenn game to play. Magma/Groudon and Aqua/Kyogre in base locations that made sense, adding to the version differences. They could've taken a page from BW and do version exclusive Water Gym Leaders as we had two. And I prefer Steven as Champion over Wallace. I was close to having my ideal Hoenn games...
I was born in 1991 so I was there since the beginning but Hoenn is still my favorite too so I don't think it's just nostalgia. Hoenn just hits different.
Extra point for Oras: it makes Pokémon that previously sucked in an emerald playthrough finally usable, like Xatu, who was given an actually good movepool, or Mawile with the fairy typing and mega evolution
3:16 Team Magma taking over the Space Center *is* in the remake, though. It’s just moved to the Delta Episode. You even show a clip of it at 3:42. Obv it’s reworked a bit with some minor differences-like how in ORAS, it’s Courtney or Matt going crazy and wanting to use the Space Center to blow up the region, instead of Maxie-but it’s meant to be a recreation of that part of Emerald as a fun callback. The Delta Episode is full of Emerald callbacks. It introduces the Match Call feature (not as a gameplay mechanic, but as a beta that gets introduced story-wise so Steven can call you), lets you battle Wallace’s Emerald team in a rematch, gives you a cool legendary cutscene involving Rayquaza (though in ORAS it’s a cutscene of you riding Rayquaza to stop Deoxys instead of Rayquaza flying in to stop Groudon/Kyogre), etc. Ofc there are still aspects of Emerald still missing, like the Battle Frontier and the Magma Base in Mt. Chimney, but there’s more from it that’s put into ORAS than you give it credit for imo. Otherwise, I agree with pretty much every point said in this video. I still love Emerald more, but ORAS does have a lot of good going for it that make it fun to play in its own way.
So you prefer a game with objectively worse gameplay in every way because it has muh meme frontier (were you even alive when the games were new?) and prefer the worst story addition the newer games have?
@@sigiligus the worse gameplay is oras. its a 20 fps laggy handholding, streamlined, linear, overblown experience and way too easy version of hoenn. "objectively worse" is so wrong lmao. sounds like you did not play either of them
@KrassomatXD you can literally beat Emerald with just Swampert, Swellow and the level 70 Rayquaza you get free with a Master ball, making it even easier than ORAS, while how delusional do you have to be to somehow say streamline and easy difficulty are bad things in a kids rpg... 🤦♂️
emerald is better in my opinion but oras is still pretty great even if they didn't have emerald content, since they at least added new content to make those remakes feel unique and gives them reason to be played rather than just going back to emerald
It's still original Ruby for me... I find the excessive amount of double battles in Emerald annoying And as others have said I also feel the story and pacing are just better in the originals too
While I did enjoy ORAS during it's run, I started playing Emerald on set mode and getting my ass beaten by Brawly twice without potions made me appreciate the difficulty once I return and beaten Brawly!
I just realized how amazing the ORAS games could have been if all the Emerald content had been included as a post-Delta Episode reward and partially integrated throughout the game. Imagine playing ORAS and experiencing the standard post-game, complete with the Delta Episode as its own standalone story. Then, after completing the Delta Episode, you gain access to the Battle Frontier and other Emerald-exclusive features. What an incredible surprise that would have been! Or maybe I’m just imagining it to be better than it would have turned out-we’ll never know, I guess...
Speaking of Juan, something OR/AS really could have done is for post-game gym leader rematches have him take over the Sootopolis gym. Likewise, Wallace should have taken over as champion for the round 2 elite four, and after beating him there, Steven should have become available with super boss levels in Meteor Falls Anyway, overall Emerald might be the most "definitive" version if only for its unified story featuring both evil teams and the full legendary trio. That said, I still probably like OR/AS more, for all the added quality of life features and expanded Pokédex. Much like HG/SS before it, and even to a lesser extent FR/LG, OR/AS updates an older region to what was at time of release the new modern standard. OR/AS is both nostalgic, while also standing as great set of games entirely on its own merit.
I'll die on the hill that Emerald GBA is the superior Hoenn game. The younger generation will just never understand. And call me old all you want, you just had to be there.
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Gen Alpha and the youngest GenZer think a later year of making and newer technology means better games.
One thing I miss from Emerald was hunting down Kyogre and Groudon in the postgame. I loved how their presence affected the entire route and warranted TV broadcasts.
It´s obviously Pokemon Emerald. Sine it´s two Versions at once and has the best Legendary Rayquaza (who has the only good Mega-Evolution.) Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire as Remakes have the Flaw of being remade Variants of Ruby/Sapphire. So yeah, Emerald should have gotten the Remake Treatment, but no...
somehow i wished game freak would release the third version in combination with the remakes. For example, thunder yellow for gen 3, liquid crystal for gen 4, delta emerald for gen 6 and legendary platinum for gen 8. Imagine with that timeline, their sales would be great on their own. We have pokemon legend AZ coming in next year, which come together finally.
Emerald is better for being an extended story, and even improved the gameplay like adding overworld Ability effects that further Pokémon interaction. It, along with Crystal and Platinum deserve remakes by better and Japanese companies.
I wish they incorporated the Emerald content inside ORAS (or better yet they made an Emerald remake directly). The new teams from Emerald, the rematches, the new areas, the post game content, Juan, ... They could have expanded on it as well.
In my opinion, I prefer both games but for a tie breaker, I would say which games had some very difficult battles, Elite Four battles, Rivals Fights, Champion Battles, etc. To break up the tie points, I should compare the difference between ORAS and Emerald and the most vote is "No. Of Attempts in Battles without Losing".
Hey gireum, have you thought about making a video about the directors of the series and how changing directors affected the games? Doing the dex in ScVi makes me think it’s necessary to talk about it.
i give presentation to oras strictly on that wally fight. it's honestly the only reason i consider oras better than emerald. the MUSIC, the symbolism of the spider lillies, the emotion. like damn, i really wanted to lose that fight. it really gave wally a true story and made me feel fulfilled with a rival for the first time since N.
Weirdly enough Emerald was one of the games I did not get as a kid, because I thought "I have Ruby and Sapphire, why do I need a 3rd one that just merges them", so it was quite fascinating watching Emerald content when it blew up during Covid with the likes of SmallAnt and PointCrow streaming it and seeing exactly how much difference there was. Although I do think Emerald and OR/AS are both valid choices in their own rights, I'm one of the only people (seemingly) that didn't really care or invest into the Battle Frontiers at all, although I went hardcore in contests in the original R/S (and OR/AS). It doesn't excuse it not being there in OR/AS for those who wanted it, but for me it's a bit of a *shrug* point. When I first got OR/AS I was amazed at all the QoL that was put in (like Phys/Spec. split) and all the different things that were upgraded, without giving a middle finger to the originals. The original R/S will always be special to me and therefore OR/AS would be my choice in this competition. It's quite funny how I remember people shitting on OR/AS when it first came out, then a couple years later people started realising just how damn good those games were.
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No, OR/AS was just plastic. The OST was muffled and sounded like some kind of amateur ''Epic orchestral cover*, Brendan and May looked weird, the Phys/Spec split is the actual *shrug* point, the game was toddler difficulty, the battle frontier easily gives over 100 hours of replay value for a casual play so it isn't just a ''Shrug point''. The only things it had over Emerald was graphics and Delta. OR/AS was just real good compared to the games that came after.
If I had to recommend which one to play for someone who has never played ruby or sapphire, I'd recommend emerald, if it was for someone who played the original, I'd recommend oras
Emerald for me, I much prefer the 2D art, there was a really nice charm to it that I just haven’t felt from any of the 3D titles. That, and I liked when trainers just ride their Pokémon without having to pull out a big bike mechanism or something ridiculous. It felt like people were more connected to Pokémon rather than just using them as tools.
We're in a really unique time where nobody before us ever had digital or online ownership of anything...millions of years on this planet with only ever knowing physical, digital not being a thing until the last few DECADES. We as humans like physicality. It's natural. It's convenient to own digitally, and it's easier for more casual gamers who don't necessarily care about ownership to have their fun digitally. But for any passionate gamer, that physical nature is something we're slowly losing. More companies like Ubisoft taking away digital purchases and requiring internet connections to play single player physical media, less items and paper in physical products, now it's more niche through companies like Limited Run Games. In many ways it's a depressing time to be a video gamer. I think physical collecting is also a way for us to counter that feeling, on top of just pure nostalgia and everything you mentioned.
I was actually upset that the remakes didn’t follow the story of Emerald like HGSS did. So I rushed ORAS. I really feel like I missed out. I’ll replay them actually.
HGSS follow Gold/Silvers story with the added Suicune subplot from Krystal, but it completely screws it up by making it post game and by making Suicune badly underleveled to be even worth using...
@@V-Jes I personally never use legends in a play through. But I did find it a little annoying that the wrap up was moved to post game. But still, all of Crystals material was in HGSS. ORAS while a lot better then RS were, leaving out the emerald content makes them feel unfinished and that weird villain team dynamic is present and just as jarring as in the original RS.
@@virom4 Yet it's still better than how it's handled in Emerald where the player does pretty much nothing and doesn't even fight anyone to safe the day thanks to Rayquaza cutscene, making things just even more unfinished feeling what isn't helped by the fact that you don't even fight the champion in that version for the champion battle but another Water type Gym leader...
The correct answer is the romhack Emerald Crest. All features of the future games including all Pokémon, its own Pokébox app, dozens of options, open world options, follower Pokémon, new map events... It's basically perfect. It's even got Soaring. Emerald, with all of the good stuff.
if Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire DID have the Battle Frontier and maybe even the gym leader rematches Than it would’ve won on part 7, it would’ve won in this entire video while making the Hoenn remakes the most memorable and amazing remakes of all time
For me it's still gotta be Emerald as my go-to Hoenn game. While I recognize all the quality of life improvements and character development ORAS provides, it comes down to how I feel playing both games. I still get the itch to replay Emerald, and find myself only ever wanting to replay ORAS once or twice, and inevitably dropping it midway through. (Yes there is some nostalgia bias in there too) ORAS being way too easy and handing out EXP like crazy detracts from the sense of progression and team building growth/connection. Most people make 2 or even 3 teams when EXP is abundant, but the feeling of not truly training the other 5 members of my team feels like a reward I did not earn. The games are so easy that I can just solo most of the game with my mega evo starter, and rarely have to swap. But then at the end of the game, I have a full team that is at the same level as my starter? It feels like I didn't truly "train" this team, and therefore it feels unearned and not rewarding. In Emerald, I like the idea of planning out my team beforehand, how I'm going to train it/parts of the game where it will prove it's worth on my team, and making sure each team member is properly trained and utilized in the playthrough. But I know that many people prefer being able to try out many pokemon, get enough EXP passively to evolve them, and try them out for a time before deciding on another new pokemon they're interested in. But that's just not personally how I play, unless it's a brand new game I'm playing for the first time! It all comes down to how people interact with and enjoy the EXP share systems of gen 6! But this, coupled with a free mega lati, boss fights having less pokemon on their teams, and having so many more options to get OP detracts from my experience of ORAS. But I recognize all of my negatives on the game are many people's positives, and it's really interesting to see other's perspectives on how they play a pokemon game :)
Speaks perfectly as to what 10 years can do because I was born in 2005 and Alpha Sapphire was the first Pokémon game I played and beat. Still in my Top #10 favorite games of all time
I also love both for differing reasons but I ultimately have to go with Emerald due to the sheer amount of content that appeals to me specifically (and I prefer sprite mon games as far as aesthetics go). I think the real interesting conversation is what is the definitive Kanto experience because although I choose FRLG I actually see quite a bit of people choose LGPE due to things like phys/special split and graphics etc.
@MarvinPowell1 nah I was just repeating what he said. For me Legends was a breath of fresh air for the series changing up the formula and giving us a prequel for Sinnoh. Not perfect but it felt like a great callback to Sinnoh.
@silentquake5154 Is it really a callback for Sinnoh, because I noticed it barely has lore ties in how certain things came to be in the present, and felt like a separate world that adapts some of the Sinnoh map, IMO.
@@zjzr08I'm not that familiar with Pokemon lore but 2 of the things I liked was Giratina having a change of heart from plotting against Arceus to saving the region from Cyrus. And them telling us that the Arceus we know is only a fragment of the real Arceus.
I think Legends is even worse than modern mainline Pokemon games, and by a significant margin. It has most of the same problems in being too easy and largely lacking dedicated dungeons and world interconnectivity, but it removes and simplifies many other features on top of that. I can live with only having one town, but removing abilities as well as held items and having hardly any trainer battles guts the battle system (nearly every battle is 1v1 where you know the opposing Pokemon before it starts, meaning that switching is mostly an irrelevant option). The added action RPG elements don't compensate well as they are mediocre and just invite unflattering comparisons with soulslikes.
ORAS PROS IMO:Boosted starters with mega evolutions, Mega Rayquaza, Primal Groudon/Kyogre, better Exp share for easier leveling up, multiple uses of TMs, CONS: No battle Frontier, locking items behind flag catching and forcing participation in contests, fuck boring contests,.. Emerald PROS IMO: Introduces the best starter mons IMO, Story, "ok" difficulty level. EMERALD CONS IMO: level grinding, lack of multiple TM usage, "Regi" puzzles and sky pillar puzzle (I could only get Rayquaza legitimately years later, and only after I had cheated out using a GameShark, which I then regretted and attempted the sky pillar as an adult, resulting in negating any enthusiasm for achieving it because of burn out)..Clamperl's evolutions and Feebass/Milotic difficulty, psuedo-legendary only in post game .SIDE NOTE. This isn’t a critique of the GEN 3-6 games, or any Pokemon game in particular, rather of Game Freak/Nintendo themselves...or more accurately, an angry rant...Fuck Game Freak/ Nintendo for making some Pokemon only available through trades ( Catch’ em all my ass) I could only trade with myself originally, and for not supporting older gens/ i.e. shutting down 3DS store and wifi, lack of backward compatibility within consoles, I’ll never get Mew and and Zeraork in Ultra Sun now....seriously Fuck Game freak/Nintendo...I can’t finish their games and its by design...TL;DR, you don't have to agree with me, these are my opinions based on personal subjective experience... still, for what its worth, Hoenn games are my favorite, even though I was around for gen 1, I never got into Pokemon until Gen 3...
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You lost me at Regi and Sky Pillar puzzles, you just had to do a bit of intellectualism and git gud.
If they announced Delta Emerald, complete with the Battle Frontier tomorrow, GameFreak would probably end up with more money than the entire per capita of South Dakota
The ORAS made me appreciate more than DBSP many ways even for me who hasn’t play many mainline Pokemon I can tell the difference between the two remake games like day n night
Emerald wins hands down just because of how grandiose the Battle Frontier was. But if there is any way to port the Battle Frontier to ORAS, then ORAS wins. You'd have to still include all the modern features ORAS has to raise Pokemon in the area competitively somehow and possibly rework the Battle Palace into something less terrible but if it can be done, it can be done. Also the Delta Episode should still be included and Emerald's encouragement of impromptu Tag Battles should be thrown in as well.
Alright, but I'm more interested in what is the definitive Alola game, given that Sun/Moon has the better story whereas UltraSun/UltraMoon has more content EDIT: 22:10 Oh
If I had to guess, the developers totally had plans for a DLC on Pokemon ORAS. adding the Battle Frontier, Rematches to gym leaders, and maybe some more side content. but someone at GF said. screw it, we need to add more Pokemon content for merchs ASAP. I truly believe it, because if this isn't the case, adding the Battle Frontier miniature is just a big middle finger for the fans, and I really hope the developers wouldn't be a bunch of jerks, at least I don't expect this to be the case back in 2014. So, they killed 6th gen sooner, and rushed the release of 7th gen, making the Alola games, well... what we have nowadays. The 6th and 7th gen were way too short IMO, if for one hand I think it sucks because I did like 6th gen a lot, on the other hand it was good because I didn't care for 7th gen, at all. Good video, btw!
This fellow jerrycan grew up with Emerald as my first Pokémon game and the ORAS games were amazing. It’s hard to choose which one is more definitive though. 🤔
It’s crazy to think this year ORAS is 10 years old and next week Emerald will be 20
Where is Delta Emerald Gamefreak
None of the remakes have gotten a third version, so...
Never
There is a ROM hack of Emerald called Delta Emerald that includes stuff like Mega Evolution, Fairy Type, and the Battle Frontier. It’s worth checking out
@@baronvonslambert We would've gotten Lightning Yellow or Spirit Crystal by now by that logic
Let's Go doesn't count, that's mostly just an ad designed to hook up the Go players to the mainline series
gamefreak is dead
long live team luminescent and bdsp rom hacks
the one thing bdsp gave us lul
"Say the line, Bart..."
Life is hard as a Sinnoh-Fan...
😂a terrible remaster with BDSP that gamefreak didn't even make, and a glorified open world beta test with PLA that barely resembles Sinnoh. they did Gen 4 fans dirty as fuck.
at least Renegade Platinum with the following patch exist.
I was so pissed when they remade D/P man😔 i was really hoping for a platinum remake. It what it is tho, so we gotta live with what they gave us unfortunately.
No it's not, for Sinnoh Platinum is the obvious correct answer.
@@DragonDArrior You and the genfivers deserve it for the crap spewed about the 3DS era in the past decade
Perhaps in another 2 decades...
Emerald would be the upgraded version, Ruby and sapphire would be the original, and ORAS is the alternate version, but had a cool flight mechanic.
Yeah oras is the remaster and a fun way to play but not the definitive way imo. Rse are. Heart hold and soul silver are good remakes because they’re still 98% faithful to the originals so they can be the definitive way to play gen 2 imo since there’s not many changes compared to rse and oras
I also have a proposal for how to decide which game is better!
Emerald is better, because in Lavaridge Town there is the sand where you can walk into and it looks like you lay in the sand. Since ORAS is 3D this is not possible in the remake!
Case Closed :D
But, in ORAS you can actually sit, it emerald you can't.
I think Emerald and ORAS are equally valid. The former has the Battle Frontier and Gym Rematches while the latter has DexNav, Physical/Special Split, Mega Evolution, Delta Episode, but they left out the Battle Frontier
I legit think that Game Freak should port ORAS to the Switch or its successor with features from Emerald added. Hell, maybe even add even more Pokemon to the Regional PokeDex like having the Gen 4 Pokemon who appeared in the anime prior to their games being released be added for example.
They could keep Steven as Champion though but perhaps have Juan as a superboss like with Steven in Emerald.
Or... Delta Emerald?
@@misterzygarde6431 If i had to give someone a recap of what version they want to play:
1- If you want story and post game content= Emerald
2- if you QOL with megas and Physical/special split= Oras
Well there is one thing I don't remember being brought up and that is the physical special split making it so you no longer can't really use pokemon that have stats that don't align with there typing, that's one for oras
I thought Skynet caused the robot uprising though?
@@Andrew-ww1hz It did not. Physical Special Split was Gen 4
@@Andrew-ww1hzgen 4!
The physical special split is more of a side-grade that can be argued as a plus or minus rather than an objective improvement.
It feels like a straight benefit at first because it's a quick fix to poorly designed Pokemon like Hitmonchan, which was clearly intended to have the niche of elemental punch coverage over Hitmonlee, yet can't realistically use these moves with its poor Special Attack. However, there are other Pokemon that realize this kind of idea properly, such as Gengar, which doesn't have the right stat layout to use either of its STABs yet is still viable offensively with coverage moves like Thunderbolt while still being able to benefit from its typing defensively. The physical special split removes this possibility by making every combination of typing and stat layout able to rely on STABs, homogenizing the design space and makes individual Pokemon less distinctive.
Unfortunately, not enough Pokemon were actually balanced around the original mechanics (for example, Pokemon with unviable STABs like Sneasel should generally have had higher BST and/or better abilities). Nonetheless, there is enough there that for example Gen 3 is in retrospect considered one of if not the best OU metagames of all time (there are other factors involved like powercreep, but this is definitely one).
...and one point to RSE for overral look. i really like the saturated colors of RSE. meanwhile ORAS definitely upgraded some places, i dont like how washed certain places look
ORAS is weird like I cannot ever call it the definitive Hoenn game as a remake like what HGSS did for the og GSC. But it’s probably the last if not only modern Pokemon games with the least amount of issues to the point where from a gameplay level, I think its the closest Pokemon game to perfecting the older non open zone/world style Pokémon game (shame gen 7 and 8 were downgrades in that aspect)
I'm playing through Omega Ruby on 3DS currently. Got it before the 3DS eShop shut down. I'll say this much: OR is just so refreshing to play after the disjointed Pokémon Violet. OR might not be as feature rich as Emerald from all the missing content, but it is far more focused on a consistent pace than even the majority of 3DS Pokémon version games.
I just wish we had a more depth filled Pokémon version game like the B&W 2 games.
This is well said, and matches my thoughts too. ORAS feel cohesive and focused in a way that the switch titles don't. ORAS feels like a polished product. SV by contrast is unpolished, like a turd
They will never make a game as good as bw2.
All the missed content? You mean, only theBF?
@2810Mad B&W2 felt to Gamefreak, what Halo: Reach was to Bungie, a swan song for the end of a gaming generation. Except Gamefreak is still around...
I pretty much agree with the conclusion. If you're not going to make a definitive remake of a game, at least make a game that is worth playing for its own reasons.
Exactly why I did not want DP remakes, and why I wanted remakes of platinum. For the same reason I never even wanted ruby and sapphire remakes because I always just wanted Emerald remakes. I would not want BW remakes if they don’t Also plan to remake BW2.
@@Holy_Crusader Thats why instead of platinum remakes we got something even better as legends arceus
@@Holy_Crusader Thinking about it, that's a new reason i doubt we'll ever get Unova remakes, cause they'll either HAVE to do the sequels eventually separately or somehow fit the sequels in as one remade package like Another Code Recollection/the upcoming Dragon Quest 1&2 remake, which Gamefreak doesn't exactly instill confidence in their ability to do so atm. I dont think they can hit Gen 5 with the BDSP approach for this reason either.
@@ObrigadaJim i didn’t want legends arceus lol, the game is extremely overrated. The game isn’t as good as platinum and didn’t quite hit the same as platinum, legends arceus was also semi open world which I dislike, ruins replayability imo. I would have preferred a platinum remake aka a more linear Pokémon game, not a DP remake or a legends game, a platinum remake has more replayability then legends arceus, legends arceus is just grindy, the overworld feels empty with very little to do. I am strongly against the open world direction that Pokémon games have been heading in. I got bored of legends arceus after 3 times that I replayed the game, can’t ever say I got bored of replaying platinum.
@ that’s why I think they ditched unova remakes despite having obvious unova hints in the dlc of SV, they probably originally had plans to remake unova but they probably realized that their would be tons of negativity if they remade BW and completely ignored BW2. They are better off remaking GSC instead of BW/BW2. Even then I would prefer if GSC remakes also included a lot of or most of the content from HGSS, if I am not mistaken HGSS includes the entirety of Kanto where as in the original GSC Kanto was more limited in terms of exploration.
For some reason, seeing all the good things that ORAS brought to the table makes me wish Game Freak added Emerald content to ORAS even more. If Game Freak actually went through the work adding Emerald to ORAS while adding all the brilliant changes they made, we could've had a remake that was just as good as if not better than HGSS. But alas, it never came to be...
Just as good as HGSS? It's already better than HGSS by actually fixing issues from the originals rather than ignoring them or making them worse...
@@V-JesHGSS is a better remake since it actually keeps all of the content from GSC while adding more on top. There was also plenty of weird stuff that GSC had that ended up being improved or fixed in HGSS the idea that HGSS fixed nothing is false. If ORAS actually had Emerald content then they’d be on par with HGSS imo.
@@CEDL0W Most small changes from Krystal weren't kept in HGSS and the only noteworthy addition from Krystal was JUST the Suicune event and nothing else (and HGSS screws that up...) outside of graphical upgrades so it wasn't hard to keep all the noteworthy changes stuff to HGSS, meanwhile if ORAS kept all the Emeralds content it would objectively be a worse game because most Emerald additions aren't good at all like the useless phone that just wastes players time, the Team Magma base where you get random encounters and is a waste of time anyways because you accomplish nothing there, having to deal with more water routes that everyone hates, removal of an actual battle with the legendary to end the Team Magma/Aqua plot as that's replaced by a cutscene in Emerald, downgrading the champion with a Gym leader etc etc, while even in Battle Frontier what has 7 facilities yet only ONE of them is good (Battle Factory) with the rest being just complete garbage what is why nobody plays those these days and is the reason why those keep getting cut in modern games thanks to online battling and raids completely replaced single player battle facilities because the players actually play those...
@ I don’t expect ORAS to keep all of the story changes of Emerald they are still Ruby and Sapphire after all but it should’ve had the obvious improvements like the gym teams and being able to rematch them or heck the double trainer encounter thing emerald did so that the generation that introduced double battles could have more then like 5 of them in the game. Had the battle frontier existed in ORAS it obviously wouldn’t have been a copy and paste of the original it would’ve had quality of life changes especially by Gen 6, and it not being in ORAS was a huge missed opportunity to polish up some of the more annoying battle facilities. The Suicune plot had to change a bit to make room for Ho-oh and Lugia since they’re still the main legends, in Crystal Ho-oh and Lugia were postgame only and the suicune stuff was front and center so they swapped it in HGSS as it would’ve been odd to just have these two legendary plots end at the same time. The changes to the cell phone system, the password show and the extreme speed Dratini reward are all kept from crystal. The only notable Crystal thing missing that I can remember is the odd egg which was an event download in the Japanese version and only added into the base game with the other regions. It’s not that people didn’t like battle facilities it’s that they stopped making good ones. Sword and Shield’s battle tower was terrible they didn’t even try with that one, but if given the option most would trade raids for a modern PWT.
HGSS is a faithful remake of a bad game, GEN2 is the worst pokemon gen excluding 8 and 9, the pokemon selection and level curve is terrible. Why are the highest levels you can find in the wild 30, before the elite 4 16 badges into the game??????
I have to go with Emerald myself. I really liked the story changes they made to RS and I was disappointed they weren't kept for ORAS. Groudon made sense to be in a volcano, I wanted to see a 3D version of Rayquaza bursting through the sky.
I think the biggest shame is that ORAS mixed with Emerald would've made the definitive Hoenn game to play.
Magma/Groudon and Aqua/Kyogre in base locations that made sense, adding to the version differences.
They could've taken a page from BW and do version exclusive Water Gym Leaders as we had two.
And I prefer Steven as Champion over Wallace.
I was close to having my ideal Hoenn games...
I was born in 1991 so I was there since the beginning but Hoenn is still my favorite too so I don't think it's just nostalgia. Hoenn just hits different.
Yeah I been playing since RBY too, the Hoenn games are also my favorite.
I lean more towards ORAS purely due to having more quality of life features that more modern pokemon games have.
Extra point for Oras: it makes Pokémon that previously sucked in an emerald playthrough finally usable, like Xatu, who was given an actually good movepool, or Mawile with the fairy typing and mega evolution
3:16 Team Magma taking over the Space Center *is* in the remake, though. It’s just moved to the Delta Episode. You even show a clip of it at 3:42.
Obv it’s reworked a bit with some minor differences-like how in ORAS, it’s Courtney or Matt going crazy and wanting to use the Space Center to blow up the region, instead of Maxie-but it’s meant to be a recreation of that part of Emerald as a fun callback.
The Delta Episode is full of Emerald callbacks. It introduces the Match Call feature (not as a gameplay mechanic, but as a beta that gets introduced story-wise so Steven can call you), lets you battle Wallace’s Emerald team in a rematch, gives you a cool legendary cutscene involving Rayquaza (though in ORAS it’s a cutscene of you riding Rayquaza to stop Deoxys instead of Rayquaza flying in to stop Groudon/Kyogre), etc.
Ofc there are still aspects of Emerald still missing, like the Battle Frontier and the Magma Base in Mt. Chimney, but there’s more from it that’s put into ORAS than you give it credit for imo.
Otherwise, I agree with pretty much every point said in this video. I still love Emerald more, but ORAS does have a lot of good going for it that make it fun to play in its own way.
Emerald for gameplay due to battle frontier, ORAS for story due to Delta episode
So you prefer a game with objectively worse gameplay in every way because it has muh meme frontier (were you even alive when the games were new?) and prefer the worst story addition the newer games have?
@@sigiligus the worse gameplay is oras. its a 20 fps laggy handholding, streamlined, linear, overblown experience and way too easy version of hoenn. "objectively worse" is so wrong lmao. sounds like you did not play either of them
@KrassomatXD you can literally beat Emerald with just Swampert, Swellow and the level 70 Rayquaza you get free with a Master ball, making it even easier than ORAS, while how delusional do you have to be to somehow say streamline and easy difficulty are bad things in a kids rpg... 🤦♂️
@@sigiligus I have played since I got Pokemon Red on Christmas 99 ;- )
"Objectively worst" - clearly baiting, anon
@@V-Jesyou’re a clown
emerald is better in my opinion but oras is still pretty great even if they didn't have emerald content, since they at least added new content to make those remakes feel unique and gives them reason to be played rather than just going back to emerald
i prefer the one with mega evolutions and a physical/special split, but oras should also have the frontier
It's still original Ruby for me... I find the excessive amount of double battles in Emerald annoying
And as others have said I also feel the story and pacing are just better in the originals too
Fave Designs of Brendan and May: Emerald Brendan and ORAS May ✌️
21:46 fun fact: in the german version of ORAS the moving company Machokes for some reason say the German name if Machamp.
Quite the twist at the end! What a close game!
Oras redesigns are so good
You want a more fleshed out story, characters and cinimatics, play ORAS
You want a more challenging game with more post game content, play Emerald
Oras is for a playthrough and not much more after delta episode
Emerald is for doing a lot more postgame
While I did enjoy ORAS during it's run, I started playing Emerald on set mode and getting my ass beaten by Brawly twice without potions made me appreciate the difficulty once I return and beaten Brawly!
I just realized how amazing the ORAS games could have been if all the Emerald content had been included as a post-Delta Episode reward and partially integrated throughout the game. Imagine playing ORAS and experiencing the standard post-game, complete with the Delta Episode as its own standalone story. Then, after completing the Delta Episode, you gain access to the Battle Frontier and other Emerald-exclusive features. What an incredible surprise that would have been! Or maybe I’m just imagining it to be better than it would have turned out-we’ll never know, I guess...
Nice video, never really stopped to think and compare both games in that way.
Speaking of Juan, something OR/AS really could have done is for post-game gym leader rematches have him take over the Sootopolis gym. Likewise, Wallace should have taken over as champion for the round 2 elite four, and after beating him there, Steven should have become available with super boss levels in Meteor Falls
Anyway, overall Emerald might be the most "definitive" version if only for its unified story featuring both evil teams and the full legendary trio. That said, I still probably like OR/AS more, for all the added quality of life features and expanded Pokédex. Much like HG/SS before it, and even to a lesser extent FR/LG, OR/AS updates an older region to what was at time of release the new modern standard. OR/AS is both nostalgic, while also standing as great set of games entirely on its own merit.
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It's been a long time Gireum
I'll die on the hill that Emerald GBA is the superior Hoenn game. The younger generation will just never understand. And call me old all you want, you just had to be there.
Gen Alpha and the youngest GenZer think a later year of making and newer technology means better games.
One thing I miss from Emerald was hunting down Kyogre and Groudon in the postgame. I loved how their presence affected the entire route and warranted TV broadcasts.
It´s obviously Pokemon Emerald.
Sine it´s two Versions at once and has the best Legendary Rayquaza (who has the only good Mega-Evolution.)
Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire as Remakes have the Flaw of being remade Variants of Ruby/Sapphire.
So yeah, Emerald should have gotten the Remake Treatment, but no...
I'd give the edge to ORAS solely for the physical special split
I really appreciated the protagonist being named JJ Abrams.
You should make a video ranking all the regions from favorites. Also currently replaying through Alpha Sapphire with a mono water team lmao
The one where you get both legendaries, obviously
Nice to see you are back!
Emerald 100%
But Rubin and Sapphire are great too and don't feel half baked like Gold, Silver and D/P.
Gold and Silver arent really half baked
somehow i wished game freak would release the third version in combination with the remakes. For example, thunder yellow for gen 3, liquid crystal for gen 4, delta emerald for gen 6 and legendary platinum for gen 8. Imagine with that timeline, their sales would be great on their own. We have pokemon legend AZ coming in next year, which come together finally.
Brendan/May explain that they no longer seek to pursuit battling and want to explore other ventures after their final defeat in Lilycove.
Emerald is better for being an extended story, and even improved the gameplay like adding overworld Ability effects that further Pokémon interaction. It, along with Crystal and Platinum deserve remakes by better and Japanese companies.
It’s a great day when Gireum post!
It's Emerald.
I wish they incorporated the Emerald content inside ORAS (or better yet they made an Emerald remake directly).
The new teams from Emerald, the rematches, the new areas, the post game content, Juan, ... They could have expanded on it as well.
In my opinion, I prefer both games but for a tie breaker, I would say which games had some very difficult battles, Elite Four battles, Rivals Fights, Champion Battles, etc.
To break up the tie points, I should compare the difference between ORAS and Emerald and the most vote is "No. Of Attempts in Battles without Losing".
Hey gireum, have you thought about making a video about the directors of the series and how changing directors affected the games? Doing the dex in ScVi makes me think it’s necessary to talk about it.
i give presentation to oras strictly on that wally fight. it's honestly the only reason i consider oras better than emerald. the MUSIC, the symbolism of the spider lillies, the emotion. like damn, i really wanted to lose that fight. it really gave wally a true story and made me feel fulfilled with a rival for the first time since N.
Weirdly enough Emerald was one of the games I did not get as a kid, because I thought "I have Ruby and Sapphire, why do I need a 3rd one that just merges them", so it was quite fascinating watching Emerald content when it blew up during Covid with the likes of SmallAnt and PointCrow streaming it and seeing exactly how much difference there was.
Although I do think Emerald and OR/AS are both valid choices in their own rights, I'm one of the only people (seemingly) that didn't really care or invest into the Battle Frontiers at all, although I went hardcore in contests in the original R/S (and OR/AS). It doesn't excuse it not being there in OR/AS for those who wanted it, but for me it's a bit of a *shrug* point. When I first got OR/AS I was amazed at all the QoL that was put in (like Phys/Spec. split) and all the different things that were upgraded, without giving a middle finger to the originals. The original R/S will always be special to me and therefore OR/AS would be my choice in this competition.
It's quite funny how I remember people shitting on OR/AS when it first came out, then a couple years later people started realising just how damn good those games were.
No, OR/AS was just plastic. The OST was muffled and sounded like some kind of amateur ''Epic orchestral cover*, Brendan and May looked weird, the Phys/Spec split is the actual *shrug* point, the game was toddler difficulty, the battle frontier easily gives over 100 hours of replay value for a casual play so it isn't just a ''Shrug point''. The only things it had over Emerald was graphics and Delta.
OR/AS was just real good compared to the games that came after.
If I had to recommend which one to play for someone who has never played ruby or sapphire, I'd recommend emerald, if it was for someone who played the original, I'd recommend oras
It’s Emerald for me, but the megas they introduced in ORAS were wicked
Emerald easily.
Seaglass Emerald
3:50 C mon bro at least Legends was fun.
Emerald for me, I much prefer the 2D art, there was a really nice charm to it that I just haven’t felt from any of the 3D titles. That, and I liked when trainers just ride their Pokémon without having to pull out a big bike mechanism or something ridiculous. It felt like people were more connected to Pokémon rather than just using them as tools.
We're in a really unique time where nobody before us ever had digital or online ownership of anything...millions of years on this planet with only ever knowing physical, digital not being a thing until the last few DECADES.
We as humans like physicality. It's natural. It's convenient to own digitally, and it's easier for more casual gamers who don't necessarily care about ownership to have their fun digitally. But for any passionate gamer, that physical nature is something we're slowly losing. More companies like Ubisoft taking away digital purchases and requiring internet connections to play single player physical media, less items and paper in physical products, now it's more niche through companies like Limited Run Games. In many ways it's a depressing time to be a video gamer.
I think physical collecting is also a way for us to counter that feeling, on top of just pure nostalgia and everything you mentioned.
Might be biased as a 1997 baby but this man might be the best Pokemon UA-cam essayist of all time
The man is back
What’s the music at 18:23?
We’ve got so much in common yet so much NOT in common
hey gireum, would love to see you cover the gamecube games xd gale of darkness and colosseum in a video. keep up le epic content
Emerald is mostly better in the aspects that matters the most like basic difficulty and level/region design.
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I would combine the Hoenn of ORAS and the Hoenn of Emerald to create a new Ultimate Hoenn.
That imaginary Delta Emerald game is the definitive Hoenn.
17:53 "would you like to put your hand deep in the hole?" 💀
I was actually upset that the remakes didn’t follow the story of Emerald like HGSS did. So I rushed ORAS. I really feel like I missed out. I’ll replay them actually.
HGSS follow Gold/Silvers story with the added Suicune subplot from Krystal, but it completely screws it up by making it post game and by making Suicune badly underleveled to be even worth using...
@@V-Jes I personally never use legends in a play through. But I did find it a little annoying that the wrap up was moved to post game. But still, all of Crystals material was in HGSS. ORAS while a lot better then RS were, leaving out the emerald content makes them feel unfinished and that weird villain team dynamic is present and just as jarring as in the original RS.
@@virom4 Yet it's still better than how it's handled in Emerald where the player does pretty much nothing and doesn't even fight anyone to safe the day thanks to Rayquaza cutscene, making things just even more unfinished feeling what isn't helped by the fact that you don't even fight the champion in that version for the champion battle but another Water type Gym leader...
@ I agree. And all of that could have, and should have, been addressed in ORAS. But instead they just left it all on the cutting room floor.
Emerald is the best version, because only the cutscene at 20:45 is -100 points. Emerald has awesome glitches just like FRLG.
ORAS did not have the cool "location preview" art that that shows when you enter an area in the previous remakes. Unforgivable -38/10
There is always Pokemmo where you can play Emerald among many other players online.
If you really care about having battling (difficulty + post game facilities), play emerald. Otherwise, I'd say oras is better
The correct answer is the romhack Emerald Crest. All features of the future games including all Pokémon, its own Pokébox app, dozens of options, open world options, follower Pokémon, new map events... It's basically perfect. It's even got Soaring. Emerald, with all of the good stuff.
if Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire DID have the Battle Frontier and maybe even the gym leader rematches
Than it would’ve won on part 7, it would’ve won in this entire video while making the Hoenn remakes the most memorable and amazing remakes of all time
the answer is Inclement Emerald
For me it's still gotta be Emerald as my go-to Hoenn game. While I recognize all the quality of life improvements and character development ORAS provides, it comes down to how I feel playing both games. I still get the itch to replay Emerald, and find myself only ever wanting to replay ORAS once or twice, and inevitably dropping it midway through. (Yes there is some nostalgia bias in there too)
ORAS being way too easy and handing out EXP like crazy detracts from the sense of progression and team building growth/connection. Most people make 2 or even 3 teams when EXP is abundant, but the feeling of not truly training the other 5 members of my team feels like a reward I did not earn. The games are so easy that I can just solo most of the game with my mega evo starter, and rarely have to swap. But then at the end of the game, I have a full team that is at the same level as my starter? It feels like I didn't truly "train" this team, and therefore it feels unearned and not rewarding.
In Emerald, I like the idea of planning out my team beforehand, how I'm going to train it/parts of the game where it will prove it's worth on my team, and making sure each team member is properly trained and utilized in the playthrough. But I know that many people prefer being able to try out many pokemon, get enough EXP passively to evolve them, and try them out for a time before deciding on another new pokemon they're interested in. But that's just not personally how I play, unless it's a brand new game I'm playing for the first time!
It all comes down to how people interact with and enjoy the EXP share systems of gen 6! But this, coupled with a free mega lati, boss fights having less pokemon on their teams, and having so many more options to get OP detracts from my experience of ORAS. But I recognize all of my negatives on the game are many people's positives, and it's really interesting to see other's perspectives on how they play a pokemon game :)
I was born in 1995 & Emerald is the first mainline Pokémon game I've played as a kid. This & Colosseum are my personal favorite games.
Speaks perfectly as to what 10 years can do because I was born in 2005 and Alpha Sapphire was the first Pokémon game I played and beat. Still in my Top #10 favorite games of all time
I also love both for differing reasons but I ultimately have to go with Emerald due to the sheer amount of content that appeals to me specifically (and I prefer sprite mon games as far as aesthetics go). I think the real interesting conversation is what is the definitive Kanto experience because although I choose FRLG I actually see quite a bit of people choose LGPE due to things like phys/special split and graphics etc.
21:28 Legends a Zelda ripoff? That beta test game is still better than anything game freak has given us since Gen 5 lmao
Dry shit is still "better" than wet shit. That doesn't make it good.
@MarvinPowell1 nah I was just repeating what he said. For me Legends was a breath of fresh air for the series changing up the formula and giving us a prequel for Sinnoh. Not perfect but it felt like a great callback to Sinnoh.
@silentquake5154 Is it really a callback for Sinnoh, because I noticed it barely has lore ties in how certain things came to be in the present, and felt like a separate world that adapts some of the Sinnoh map, IMO.
@@zjzr08I'm not that familiar with Pokemon lore but 2 of the things I liked was Giratina having a change of heart from plotting against Arceus to saving the region from Cyrus. And them telling us that the Arceus we know is only a fragment of the real Arceus.
I think Legends is even worse than modern mainline Pokemon games, and by a significant margin.
It has most of the same problems in being too easy and largely lacking dedicated dungeons and world interconnectivity, but it removes and simplifies many other features on top of that. I can live with only having one town, but removing abilities as well as held items and having hardly any trainer battles guts the battle system (nearly every battle is 1v1 where you know the opposing Pokemon before it starts, meaning that switching is mostly an irrelevant option). The added action RPG elements don't compensate well as they are mediocre and just invite unflattering comparisons with soulslikes.
Maybe we will see Emerald return on Switch 2… it’s easy money Nintendo!!!
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ORAS PROS IMO:Boosted starters with mega evolutions, Mega Rayquaza, Primal Groudon/Kyogre, better Exp share for easier leveling up, multiple uses of TMs, CONS: No battle Frontier, locking items behind flag catching and forcing participation in contests, fuck boring contests,.. Emerald PROS IMO: Introduces the best starter mons IMO, Story, "ok" difficulty level. EMERALD CONS IMO: level grinding, lack of multiple TM usage, "Regi" puzzles and sky pillar puzzle (I could only get Rayquaza legitimately years later, and only after I had cheated out using a GameShark, which I then regretted and attempted the sky pillar as an adult, resulting in negating any enthusiasm for achieving it because of burn out)..Clamperl's evolutions and Feebass/Milotic difficulty, psuedo-legendary only in post game .SIDE NOTE. This isn’t a critique of the GEN 3-6 games, or any Pokemon game in particular, rather of Game Freak/Nintendo themselves...or more accurately, an angry rant...Fuck Game Freak/ Nintendo for making some Pokemon only available through trades ( Catch’ em all my ass) I could only trade with myself originally, and for not supporting older gens/ i.e. shutting down 3DS store and wifi, lack of backward compatibility within consoles, I’ll never get Mew and and Zeraork in Ultra Sun now....seriously Fuck Game freak/Nintendo...I can’t finish their games and its by design...TL;DR, you don't have to agree with me, these are my opinions based on personal subjective experience... still, for what its worth, Hoenn games are my favorite, even though I was around for gen 1, I never got into Pokemon until Gen 3...
You lost me at Regi and Sky Pillar puzzles, you just had to do a bit of intellectualism and git gud.
Nintendo is holding off for the true Hoenn experience
Hoenn will always be my favorite region. I love Hoenn in gen 3 and I love it gen 6. Platinum, HGSS are pretty solid too.
I hope you do a What is the Definitive Sinnoh Game? video. That would be fun too.
Platinum
Emerald Brendan is best trainer design wise.
If they announced Delta Emerald, complete with the Battle Frontier tomorrow, GameFreak would probably end up with more money than the entire per capita of South Dakota
I've heard ZA is getting some leaks already, nothing solid enough to mention, but since tera leak we an expect the game to leak soon
The ORAS made me appreciate more than DBSP many ways even for me who hasn’t play many mainline Pokemon I can tell the difference between the two remake games like day n night
The guy remembered to upload
Emerald wins hands down just because of how grandiose the Battle Frontier was. But if there is any way to port the Battle Frontier to ORAS, then ORAS wins. You'd have to still include all the modern features ORAS has to raise Pokemon in the area competitively somehow and possibly rework the Battle Palace into something less terrible but if it can be done, it can be done.
Also the Delta Episode should still be included and Emerald's encouragement of impromptu Tag Battles should be thrown in as well.
Boy are you lucky you clarified that these are your opinions
Alright, but I'm more interested in what is the definitive Alola game, given that Sun/Moon has the better story whereas UltraSun/UltraMoon has more content
EDIT: 22:10
Oh
If I had to guess, the developers totally had plans for a DLC on Pokemon ORAS. adding the Battle Frontier, Rematches to gym leaders, and maybe some more side content. but someone at GF said. screw it, we need to add more Pokemon content for merchs ASAP. I truly believe it, because if this isn't the case, adding the Battle Frontier miniature is just a big middle finger for the fans, and I really hope the developers wouldn't be a bunch of jerks, at least I don't expect this to be the case back in 2014. So, they killed 6th gen sooner, and rushed the release of 7th gen, making the Alola games, well... what we have nowadays. The 6th and 7th gen were way too short IMO, if for one hand I think it sucks because I did like 6th gen a lot, on the other hand it was good because I didn't care for 7th gen, at all.
Good video, btw!
honewtly, luminescent platinum is the definitive sinnoh experience
0:18 He is the chosen one
This fellow jerrycan grew up with Emerald as my first Pokémon game and the ORAS games were amazing. It’s hard to choose which one is more definitive though. 🤔
I’m no “Jerry Can”
Do a video on Metaphor Refantazio my g, bro you're gonna nut so hard for that game
ORAS for the mega evolution and primal forms.
Well in a few days, Emerald Legacy will be the definitive Hoenn game