I would love the idea of the Indoraptor sparing your life if you saved it, but I doubt it would. The Indoraptor has probably had a bad experience with humans, like the Indominus Rex. She has probably been tested on and put through a lot of pain. Plus in the trailer, she is put in a cage and showed off to other humans in an auction. If she got the chance to kill a human, she would do it. If she was being protected from the other humans by a human, and she noticed that the human was risking its own life to save hers, she just might have mercy. I know this comment is taking a couple of turns on opinions, but I like to look at both sides.
Kafie Panjaitan *Spoilers Ahead* It isn't based off of blues DNA they needed blue for the other indoraptor to learn emotions so they needed blue to be a mother to it which didn't happen cause they couldn't make the second one cause indominous Rex bone was destroyed.
Dogs kills their owners because they are just stupid animals who cares only about food. As long as you are giving them food you have higher chance of not being attacked. Indoraptor is much MUCH more intelligent then dogs so there is no comprasion
I think Ripper would react the same way Toothless did when Hiccup saved him in the first How To Train Your Dragon movie. Ripper's first initial thought is to Kill but then hesitation, and hopefully he would decide not to kill you.
I wonder if Indoraptor would have a less chance of killing u if u feed him his favourite snack everyday. He’d would lay interest on u and see u as someone who CAN give him food. He would defend the feeder, like he knows that if the feeder dies, then no food.
Waaris Sattar what if his favourite snack is human flesh. Also even if you feed him, that thing can probably hunt very fast and efficently itself, so there wouldn't be a need for a feeder. Probably would just end up killing the feeder after the snack.
THAT specific indoraptor would probably kill you as it’s just a “prototype”. The one they were going to create was going to have traits like Blue, which included obedience, the ability to follow human commands, and like Blue with Owen and her pack, form bonds. Unfortunately they never created this one. The indoraptor that they were going to create would probably spare you because of Blue’s human-like traits in it. This one “prototype “ I have no doubt it would kill you because like Indy it was vicious and thought of itself.
Yea, because obedience can by added in ADN without problems Blue had a relation with Owen because he raised him with love, respect and inteligents Even if they make Indoraptors with Blue DNA, they gonna make the same errors that they make with the "prototype" Animal abuse, experimentacion and "training" with electric shocks The true cuestion is: If Owen raise the Indoraptor, or even the Indominus, they could be normal animals or even there they gonna ending how monsters?
@@ricardosucre2992 DNA is part of it, training is another. If animal does not have socialization in its DNA, there is nothing you can do - some animals simply aren't trainable. But DNA only provides basis, so yeah, overall I agree.
I believe the Indoraptor has some kind of bond with Lucy/Maisie. Like the way he approached the girl in bed, he reached his hands out instead of lashing at her quickly. Maybe Indoraptor thought the bed was trapping the girl and he tried to save her. I hope Bayona portrays Ripper’s emotions and his feelings, unlike Indominus Rex in JW, where she was portrayed as a monster.
Waaris Sattar well yeah but these creatures aren't like your average dog. Their brains work differently, their unpredictable. They have millions of years of primal instinct running thru their blood. They wouldn't exactly see you as a "friend". As Owen said, his relationship with the raptors was one of mutual respect. The only reason they didn't snack on him was bc they saw him as their pack leader, as that's what they were raised and conditioned to believe. These animals were designed to kill by nature, but compared to something like the Indoraptor, which was literally created to BE a monster, who knows what it's thinking... yes it's important to sympathize with the animals, but that doesn't go both ways. They aren't as emotionally complex as humans or perhaps the majority of mammals in general. Sometimes the answer lies simply on a biological level too see what it's true intentions are, and if the Indoraptor was designed to be a monster, then that's something it can't really help. It doesn't know it's doing anything wrong, same thing with the Indominus, it's just doing what it was created to do. Kill.
Waaris Sattar what? Obviously they have a heart lmao how else would blood be pumping thru their body? I'm saying they're animals, and not all animals act the same way. We're not talking about a toy poodle, we're talking about an animal that survived purely on primal instinct for millions of years. Don't put words in my mouth that I did not say lol that strawman bs doesn't work on me.
I think that it has some sort of moral compass. That might be why he didn’t kill Maisy right away, and I think he’s smart enough to know if someone would save his life
It wasn't sparing her it got a kick out of terrifying her.its shown it likes playing with people's emotions like when it smiles after tricking the man in its cage
This is based on the idea from another commenter (as long as you haven't already made a video about it and as far as I know that's not the case): What if the Indoraptor wasn't wanting to kill the girl, but instead tried to communicate with her?
Animals are not as dumb as people believe. All animals have a universal understanding. In fact, the Rex in the last movie didn't kill Blue. All creatures have the potential to understand. One of the greatest examples is Life of Pi. So yeah, in my opinion. If you tried to save it, even if you were being chased by it, it wouldn't kill you afterwards.
I don't believe it would because even though that it's supposedly as intelligent as the I-rex, I don't believe that it has the brainpower to spare a creatures life under any circumstance or even know what the word "sparing" is. BTW, I'm saying all of this before I watched the video. Also, what if Muldoon survived his encounter with The Big One at the end of the 1st movie?
The I rex actually had a very high intelligence, if you watch one of their other theorys they talk about why the I rex killed everything, and the theory was it did that because in the land it saw what the humans were doing to the dinosaurs, all the horrible things they did to them for tests, it saw them looking at it's sibling possibly wanting to do those things to it, so she ate her sibling so they couldn't do those horrible things. It wanted to kill all the dinosaurs because it had mercy on them, it saw they were only there to increase the humans intelligence and it saw no reason for it, I think if it did kill all the dinosaurs it would have gone into hiding and observed the humans to better put them into their place. To be honest, I really like that the I rex saw the terrible things we humans do and saw no reason for it to be there and wanted to take action. That's the thing, since humans are the only things capable of seeing these things were the only ones able to stop it. But we aren't huge creatures that are basically invincible to stop this. We all view each other as equals and nobody's really 100 percent affected by words, but the destruction of those things affects everyone greatly and might cause us to see things differently
If I were to guess, given the Indoraptor’s cruel and sadistic nature, it would probably make you think it was gonna just walk away, before turning right back around and going in for the easy kill. In it’s mind I doubt it would care if a person saved it’s life, as long at it was still alive, it’s still survival or get ripped to shreds
I think ripper wouldn't hurt anybody unless a creature was perceived a threat and if a person were to save ripper's life then he would in turn be grateful to said person, also even possibility ripper would ally with said person also even bond/view the person with equal respect on equal footing despite knowing he was made with military intent. Also if people take into account his past behavior then some how be able to rehabilitate ripper then he could start to realize that world isn't a cold, dark place as he views it
The thing is, Ripper is a psychopath. Even the Indominus was lashing out, out of anger at being confined her whole life. But Ripper just wants a body count bigger than anyone else's. He flat out enjoys every minute of fear and pain he can make a victim endure before killing them. At best, you me just be killed quick and painlessly as a "Thank you".
TheOnly ShinyUmbreon You know the one that people that cant speak talk with ther hands.The Indoraptor cant speack so lets say the pearson who is trying to free him teaches him shine language.
now I can only imagine the indoraptor sitting with the little girl helping her with her math home work because of what you said about the math home work XD
All of it's life it's only known the concept of what we consider torture and no matter how many times we save it, it'll always see humans as torturers, if ingen(under Hammond) created it the indoraptor would've acted like a "normal" dinosaur since they take care of their animals but since it wasn't created by ingen it was always treated as a living object not a living creature as we see it in an auction in the trailers
Great video Alteori. I think the Indoraptor will still kill you even if you saved its life. But if you raised it there is a possibility that it might not kill you.
It's like the story of the farmer and the viper. "A farmer goes out into the snow one night, and finds a viper snake frozen on the brink of death. He takes it home, and sits it by the fire to save its life. When the viper came to, it bites the farmer, and the farmer dies from the poisonous bite." The moral of the story: "Kindess to evil, will always be met by betrayal." So my answer is yes. The Indoraptor would still kill you if you saved its life.
During the first Jurassic Park series of movies, some company came out with a series of comics involving the dinosaurs and many of the main characters. They even had Robert Muldoon (the game warden) in there, despite the fact he clearly died in the movies. However, there was a storyline where Dr. Sadler (one of the paleontologists) and Ian Malcom were on a plane trying to get some juvenile raptors to go down into the ocean, because they couldn't let the raptors get out into the wild, but they all survive, and were taken to some war lord/"crime boss" in a central American country as hostages/property. One of the raptors, a female, was injuried, and kept locked up for the time being. Dr. Sadler helped heal the creature, and it was noted that the raptor was permitting the woman to help her. There was a very clear discussion between Dr. Sadler and Malcom about how if the raptor could be free from the metal collar around her neck, or if the chain holding the animal back broke, the raptor would kill her without hesitation. Afterwards, there were panels showing the situation from the raptor's perspective. Malcom and Sadler were talking in some strange scratchy font indicating unknown words/sounds. Malcom and Sadler fought for a moment or two, while the raptor would move her head around while observing them, and then Sadler fell into Malcom's arms crying over being held against their will by a war lord who was training the raptors to kill for him with shock collars. Raptors are suppose to be intelligent animals, and many intelligent animals will permit others to help them, if they are restrained and have no choice in the matter, but that doesn't mean they like the idea or that it was their idea in the first place. They'd kill you and run off to die from their injuries in many cases.
Actually, seeing as it has been bred for military usage, it has to be designed to be compatible with humans. It has to take orders, it has to work alongside soldiers for hybrid operations, it has to recognize individuals for assassination, and many other things. There's no way they'd just use it as a killing machine because we already have killing machines. No, the Indoraptor has to be a multitool that is adaptable and versatile, and the development of such a brain using splicing will undoubtedly bring traits from those specimens into it. The Indominus, after all, tried to communicate with Rexy, and DID communicate with the raptors. We gave Indy a whole lot of individuality and potential. It's criminal to deny that same treatment to the Indoraptor. I believe that the Indoraptor would at least SPARE you if you saved it, not going into any kind of loyalty bond discussion. If it met you again, depending on the circumstances, THEN we could decide whether or not it would kill you this time. That would be interesting.
Dr. Henry Wu has said in the movie that it was a prototype grown in a closed environment and it didn't have the ability to perceive emotion like blue. THe current one that he had in the egges had this modification made after wu found this notion in the prototype. So with that being said it will still try to kill you.
I think if it were treated more like a person and not a savage beast and given classes to cater to its intellect, then it could possibly develop a moral compass and it’s own code of conduct. It may even develop a sense of compassion and see people as it’s equals or even comrades. And with how intelligent it’s suppose to be, maybe it could’ve adapted from making animalistic hisses, snarls and growling to semi speaking in human tongues. And it probably could’ve been adept at sign language
Reminds me of the Xenomorph comic where one scientist tried to test this. It worked-kinda. When the Xeno got free, it hesitated to attack the nice human.. but it still cut them up. While the other scientists were killed or used to birth chest bursters. So.... Maybe
He may recognize that you are helping him, but I think it'd be more a marriage of convenience, than an outright pack formation.as soon as the immidiate threat was nutralized, he would turn on his savior.
I think if the Indoraptor could talk it would say "bro bro what are you doing get away from me" then if you did free it from its trap it would say "I said get away from me and now Ima kill you"
This is probably one of those questions which cannot be reasonably answered until we see what Ripper is really like. For all we know, the trailer maybe creating a deliberately misleading depiction of him and he may just be a misunderstood animal trying to find his place in a world in which he shouldn't even exist. If that's the case, then maybe he is able to empathize with animals smaller and weaker than he is. This could be why Ripper didn't just attack the little girl in her bedroom. Of course, I personally believe that the trailers are telling it like it is. If that's so, I think the most you'd get from Ripper if you saved him would be a brief confounded expression, and then he'd slaughter you.
What if there were different situations Like Riper is about to be killed by dinosaur or a human and me/you save him by let's say throwing or hiding them with a stick and then they attack me/you do you think Riper would save you? Or what if let's Riper is assigned to kill a specific person or dinosaur and he sees you being attacked by seid person or dino what do you think he would do?
I feel that ripper has a sadistic sense of humor and mindset as he is seen literally smiling at the man collecting teeth before killing him. But I also feel that if you were to unlock the cage and calmly turn your back and walk away he would be confused and may very well kill you with your back turned as most animals see that as an opening OR, he would try to toy with you like a cat would to a mouse. But as for a friend in ripper. I dont think that's an option unless you were seen as useful or highly dominant over ripper. These animal with the exception of blue see no companionship , they only see the necessities of their lives. Food, water, and rest. Even blue leaves owen as they aren't meant to be dogs. Ripper is intelligent enough to taunt with his tail. He is strong enough to pull himself up without breaking the glass around him with his weight. Why would he see us as useful to him is a more likable question. I am curious and hope you see this comment and appreciate my take on it. Love the videos
this is a very good theory. maybe you can do a video titled "what if maisie tamed the indoraptor" (correct me if i misspell it :') ) btw in my au of JWFK, (and the other films)the indoraptors name is fang.
Alteori btw while I was looking at one of the bedroom pictures of the indo raptor/Ripper I noticed that it blended in or camouflaged I can't remember which one it was but im pretty certain it was when it showed his face and teeth and stuff.
Dogs will only attack it's owner if the owner is bad, if it's scared, if the dog thinks the human is goingto hurt him, or if it has a disease that effects its mind
Well in the movie Owen pushes the lever to stop the cage that the Indoraptor is in Owen mostly saves the Indoraptor from going to Russia. In the scene the Indoraptor doesn't kill Owen then closer to the ending the Indoraptor try's to kill Owen but doesn't. It's very strange that the Indoraptor was only going for Maisie
I was planning to subscribe but, i refuse to sub to someone who thinks dogs are at fault for the attacks. If you are attacked by a dog there *is* a reason behind it that can be pointed back at the owner. Dogs do NOT just simply attack. Primal instincts aside, as they are related to wolves but these instincts only come out when the dog is truly pushed into a feral state, a dog is Domesticated and must be trained to show certain traits. Dogs were domesticated and were selectively bred to show off compassion + Loyalty toward humans. They were bred to be hunting dogs, working dogs, and so-on. However, some breeds (i.e, the breeds bred for Fighting, toy breeds, and most working dogs actually) require more training as they are what one could call Stubborn. They require more training and a stricter hand (not an abusive hand, mind you) to prevent them from turning aggressive. Careless pet owners *create* aggressive dogs. I know this from experience as i failed to socialize my dog when she was young. She became aggressive and territorial as a result when she was an adult. My lab, the breed is as of late not recommended for families with children due to their hunting capabilities (A lab? Attack someone? What?), has been socialized and trained and you would never guess it! But, he's FRIENDLY. It takes training and proper care of an animal otherwise, YES, they will show aggression. But that isn't just for dogs, that's for Any animal. If Indorex or even Indoraptor was shown the same treatment as Blue (who, let's face it, while Owen knew what she was capable of- he still pretty much treated her as a dog, and let's also face it- she pretty much was a prehistoric dog) they'd of likely grown up into Apex predators, yes, but they likely would of at least been willing to listen to a human and show a trace of loyalty toward said human. But, because they were treated horribly (like a monster and object in the case of Rex, and abused and treated like an object in case of raptor) they ended up becoming highly aggressive and unable to show remorse or empathy. If indoraptor was shown affection, or general care, yeah there's a chance he'd attack but let's face it- he likely also wouldn't know what care was so at the same time you'd likely confuse him. If you took careful measures (i.e, showing him compassion/care/kindness from a safedistance while he is enclosed (i.e, offering him fresh food) you'd gain his interest. Slow and steady wins the race and in the case of a hybrid like him, Slow and steady is also safer than trying to rush to gain his attention (i.e such as freeing him when he's trapped or something) as all that will do is possibly cause him to confuse you for another tormentor (i.e, he could confuse you for someone trapping him instead of freeing him) or possibly confuse you as potential prey. My point here? There is a difference between Indoraptor and Dogs- One was bred to be used for war, the other was bred for Loyalty. In addition, wolves are actually a poor comparison for Indo. Believe it or not, wolf attacks aren't very common as a singular wolf - much like a singular dog - can be dispatched easily by a human being attack by it. Hell, a simple punch to the snout can damage it's sense of smell and cause it to run away in simple confusion. Most wild-dog breeds are more inclined to run away, only standing ground if directly threatened (i.e, you tried to kick one of them, for lack of better example), or if there is a den housing pups very closely by. The only known breeds not to actually run from confrontation with humans are African wild dogs and Dingoes. I suppose you could also throw Hyenas in there but hyenas are under a different genus. Their frequency varies with geographical location and historical period. Gray wolf attacks are rare because wolves are often subsequently killed, or even extirpated in reaction by human beings. As a result, wolves today tend to live mostly far from people or have developed the tendency and ability to avoid them. Less often, people are bitten by cornered coyotes, or even more rarely, rabid coyotes. There have only been two recorded incidences in the United States and Canada of humans being killed by coyotes. "The motivation for lots of dog bites is fear," he says. "Others are territorial - if they're guarding something that they highly value, or defending their favourite resting place, their bed... Or if they've learned to defend, say, a dog bowl - that can result in aggression." So, what would make a dog turn so dramatically? Experts say that dogs can be aggressive when they feel frightened and for most bites, the motivation is fear. Dogs, by nature, are territorial and they guard something which they value highly, and they defend their favorite resting place. However, Fear and fright are often results of *not* training your dog (i.e, you need to train your dog to not fear things like people/other dogs- a unconfident dog is an accident waiting to happen.) or simply not exposing your dog to anything they may possibly come across. In addition, guarding is a *awful* behaviour as for many small breeds that leads to Toy-aggression (chihuahuas, for example, are very prone to toy aggression) and bigger breeds can lead to food/foodbowl aggression. All these aggressions are things you can train out early and, if you start slow, even later in life.
Note, i speak from both Experience and Knowledge on and with dogs. While i am not a certified trainer or a vet (but honestly, listening to vets is where a lot of people tend to gain false ideas on animals) i have grown up with dogs my entire life and have been training my dogs since i was around 13. (i'm now twenty). In those seven years i have trained around 10 dogs and all were fairly friendly animals. In addition, i have done research on animals since i was thirteen as i once aspired to be a vet (but i found i would likely be unable to handle euthanization, so, i decided to lean towards writing instead). Most of what i've supplied can be found online with the right wording (i.e, Why do dogs attack owners) or even heard from Dog Trainers such as Victoria on 'It's me or the dog' which is shown here on youtube. (note, i don't recommend caeser as he is actually an advocate for dog cruelty devices - such as prong collars which are capable of collapsing a dog's trachea.)
What i wanna know is if you had a good enough bond with a velociraptor like blue and owen, when the velociraptor allow you to ride it and carry to safety or attack you iff you tried
Henry did this to Elise who didn't know until it was late enough that she found something that smelled simlar meaning she never thought about that one time with weird bug
Hence her dear spinosaurus mixed boy ment so much to her, but Kash made him to have been a dinosaur who never ate most of his prey, and never took prey that wasn't live after Daniel ended up in his cage
I think it's 50 50 chance I'd attempt to save him but I'd try talking in a non aggressive voice first I mean if he does kill you at least he might do it faster as an act of mercy it would probably be confused as to why your trying to free it that might be the key here to the situation but yeah no it's 50-50 and with your life on the line not many people would.
I think Ripper would recognize it because in Jurassic World, the indoraptor is made with DNA of Indominus with extra raptor DNA, who of which is blue's, Ripper would be capable because its roots are capable
If it is programmed to kill, then it must kill. If it is programmed to be intelligent, then it has chosen to kill from its intelligence, then it could maybe not kill you. Especially if it knew you before the incident, and then you tried to save it. If raptors weren’t some of the most perfect killing machines ever made, and you kept their nails cut and stopped them from biting, they would be the most adorable, fun pet imaginable. Imagine a raptor like blue sitting on your lap at home while you are watching the football game.
I just realized some thing they said in the movie. Ripper was a young juvenile in the movie. Imagine how smart and large he would be at full size.
@@wallacesmith5426 I did math he would live 204 years 💀 71 feet 💀 and have the strength to lift hills 💀 and have 156 gallons of blood💀😭
@@kgtheog8682 wait how did you get that math?
Wait when did they say that?? I don’t remember
I would love the idea of the Indoraptor sparing your life if you saved it, but I doubt it would. The Indoraptor has probably had a bad experience with humans, like the Indominus Rex. She has probably been tested on and put through a lot of pain. Plus in the trailer, she is put in a cage and showed off to other humans in an auction. If she got the chance to kill a human, she would do it. If she was being protected from the other humans by a human, and she noticed that the human was risking its own life to save hers, she just might have mercy. I know this comment is taking a couple of turns on opinions, but I like to look at both sides.
she killed the buyers and a tenichan.
It’s a he get it right. Not to be mean
Isn't the Indoraptor a *He* ?
Yea he would kill any human except he didn't kill Macy because she ain't human
He was actually tortured by humans in a deleted scene
100% i would die
100% if i run, i would also die
110% if i hide, i will also die
1000% if i looked at it, i would of already died.
Aura
So true
And if you breath 100000% you would die
Indorapter will blows up in 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
100000% if you eat a sandwich 3.4 miles away from it u die
1000000% if you were on its back you would die
If you raise it then we may have an exception
Yes since its DNA is mostly based from blue
Kafie Panjaitan *Spoilers Ahead*
It isn't based off of blues DNA they needed blue for the other indoraptor to learn emotions so they needed blue to be a mother to it which didn't happen cause they couldn't make the second one cause indominous Rex bone was destroyed.
TheUnbeleivableGaming {UBG} welp not gonna read that spoiler. Thanks for the warning
EDIT: (NVM I read it anyway) ok sorry for my mistake
Lol, its okay.
Why will Orange kill someone wait he did
No way, even dogs attack its own owners! The IndoRaptor would only kill you quicker as a "thank you"
Nope
@@sachinhunter7248 yes
@@thenovazone1778 I agree.
Dogs kills their owners because they are just stupid animals who cares only about food. As long as you are giving them food you have higher chance of not being attacked. Indoraptor is much MUCH more intelligent then dogs so there is no comprasion
Dogs attacking owners are usually the result of abuse and overall bad care of them.
I think Ripper would react the same way Toothless did when Hiccup saved him in the first How To Train Your Dragon movie.
Ripper's first initial thought is to Kill but then hesitation, and hopefully he would decide not to kill you.
He would most likely kill u
Why is everyone only talking about him killing me why me
Then they would have to unlike a pedigree nightfurry take to a vet and it eill be sad for that boy, but must be done
And he saw it his dinosaur would not meet a dinosaur someday
He was so sad, he was gonna love that day
I wonder if Indoraptor would have a less chance of killing u if u feed him his favourite snack everyday. He’d would lay interest on u and see u as someone who CAN give him food. He would defend the feeder, like he knows that if the feeder dies, then no food.
Waaris Sattar Again, its a her
Jeremy Godzilla Bloody hell, wait til the fim comes out and you’ll see DA BOIII
Jeremy Godzilla actually when Mattel made their toys they said in a video our first male dino villan check it out it's like 9 minutes long
Waaris Sattar what if his favourite snack is human flesh. Also even if you feed him, that thing can probably hunt very fast and efficently itself, so there wouldn't be a need for a feeder. Probably would just end up killing the feeder after the snack.
Jp3 Spinosaurus it’s a male
THAT specific indoraptor would probably kill you as it’s just a “prototype”. The one they were going to create was going to have traits like Blue, which included obedience, the ability to follow human commands, and like Blue with Owen and her pack, form bonds. Unfortunately they never created this one. The indoraptor that they were going to create would probably spare you because of Blue’s human-like traits in it. This one “prototype “ I have no doubt it would kill you because like Indy it was vicious and thought of itself.
Yea, because obedience can by added in ADN without problems
Blue had a relation with Owen because he raised him with love, respect and inteligents
Even if they make Indoraptors with Blue DNA, they gonna make the same errors that they make with the "prototype"
Animal abuse, experimentacion and "training" with electric shocks
The true cuestion is:
If Owen raise the Indoraptor, or even the Indominus, they could be normal animals or even there they gonna ending how monsters?
@@ricardosucre2992 DNA is part of it, training is another. If animal does not have socialization in its DNA, there is nothing you can do - some animals simply aren't trainable. But DNA only provides basis, so yeah, overall I agree.
It would probably kill you, but I would find it very interesting if somebody could have kind of a friendship with this beautiful hybrid.
The attempt to befriend the creature:
I also think this hybrid dinosaur is beautiful I don't care if he was designed to be scary. Didn't work for me lol
@@DrevorReal did you see the earlier designs?
@@DrevorReal same it's cute and megastic
@@nataliazajac6130 I agree he really is
I believe the Indoraptor has some kind of bond with Lucy/Maisie. Like the way he approached the girl in bed, he reached his hands out instead of lashing at her quickly. Maybe Indoraptor thought the bed was trapping the girl and he tried to save her. I hope Bayona portrays Ripper’s emotions and his feelings, unlike Indominus Rex in JW, where she was portrayed as a monster.
Waaris Sattar dinosaurs don't necessarily have emotions
Agent Vεɳσɱ They have a heart, they’re STILL animals and audiences have to understand the animal’s feelings
Waaris Sattar well yeah but these creatures aren't like your average dog. Their brains work differently, their unpredictable. They have millions of years of primal instinct running thru their blood. They wouldn't exactly see you as a "friend". As Owen said, his relationship with the raptors was one of mutual respect. The only reason they didn't snack on him was bc they saw him as their pack leader, as that's what they were raised and conditioned to believe. These animals were designed to kill by nature, but compared to something like the Indoraptor, which was literally created to BE a monster, who knows what it's thinking... yes it's important to sympathize with the animals, but that doesn't go both ways. They aren't as emotionally complex as humans or perhaps the majority of mammals in general. Sometimes the answer lies simply on a biological level too see what it's true intentions are, and if the Indoraptor was designed to be a monster, then that's something it can't really help. It doesn't know it's doing anything wrong, same thing with the Indominus, it's just doing what it was created to do. Kill.
Agent Vεɳσɱ So ur saying dinosaurs are dumb and they can never follow a humans orders and just be monsters? So basically they dnt have a heart
Waaris Sattar what? Obviously they have a heart lmao how else would blood be pumping thru their body? I'm saying they're animals, and not all animals act the same way. We're not talking about a toy poodle, we're talking about an animal that survived purely on primal instinct for millions of years. Don't put words in my mouth that I did not say lol that strawman bs doesn't work on me.
I think it wld still try to kill.
Just being the hybrid that it is
lol yee
SportsFan JW
Brett Holtz We are talking about a killing machine
Brett Holtz its Chris Pratt IDIOT!!!
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I think that it has some sort of moral compass. That might be why he didn’t kill Maisy right away, and I think he’s smart enough to know if someone would save his life
It wasn't sparing her it got a kick out of terrifying her.its shown it likes playing with people's emotions like when it smiles after tricking the man in its cage
I think Loki said it best.
"It depends on the day."
This is based on the idea from another commenter (as long as you haven't already made a video about it and as far as I know that's not the case):
What if the Indoraptor wasn't wanting to kill the girl, but instead tried to communicate with her?
Daisy 4 So ur saying the little girl has Indoraptor DNA?😂
Waaris Sattar 😂maybe he/she means ripper has human dna 😂😂😂😂(knowing ingen everything is possible)
Who knows, both may be true ;D
thats dumb...
Daisy The Fox that would mean the indo has human DNA, which is lame af and something Jurassic World would never do...
I think he'd recognized that I was trying to save him, but I think he'd still kill me
Animals are not as dumb as people believe. All animals have a universal understanding. In fact, the Rex in the last movie didn't kill Blue. All creatures have the potential to understand. One of the greatest examples is Life of Pi. So yeah, in my opinion. If you tried to save it, even if you were being chased by it, it wouldn't kill you afterwards.
I don't believe it would because even though that it's supposedly as intelligent as the I-rex, I don't believe that it has the brainpower to spare a creatures life under any circumstance or even know what the word "sparing" is. BTW, I'm saying all of this before I watched the video. Also, what if Muldoon survived his encounter with The Big One at the end of the 1st movie?
The I rex actually had a very high intelligence, if you watch one of their other theorys they talk about why the I rex killed everything, and the theory was it did that because in the land it saw what the humans were doing to the dinosaurs, all the horrible things they did to them for tests, it saw them looking at it's sibling possibly wanting to do those things to it, so she ate her sibling so they couldn't do those horrible things. It wanted to kill all the dinosaurs because it had mercy on them, it saw they were only there to increase the humans intelligence and it saw no reason for it, I think if it did kill all the dinosaurs it would have gone into hiding and observed the humans to better put them into their place. To be honest, I really like that the I rex saw the terrible things we humans do and saw no reason for it to be there and wanted to take action. That's the thing, since humans are the only things capable of seeing these things were the only ones able to stop it. But we aren't huge creatures that are basically invincible to stop this. We all view each other as equals and nobody's really 100 percent affected by words, but the destruction of those things affects everyone greatly and might cause us to see things differently
I read it and like that theory very much
But on the other hand the i rex just could of been killing just to be a dick lol.
If Muldoon survived the Raptor attack, then he would be stuck on Isla Nublar and still die
Of course it'll kill me, it's a freaking abomination.
Watch your language!
Indoraptor Unstopable *Calls Rexy*
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Fight me ya old fool.
How old are you
0:57
Me: ok what is the square root of 2718393
Indoraptor: ROARRRR
me: speak English
Lol
If I were to guess, given the Indoraptor’s cruel and sadistic nature, it would probably make you think it was gonna just walk away, before turning right back around and going in for the easy kill. In it’s mind I doubt it would care if a person saved it’s life, as long at it was still alive, it’s still survival or get ripped to shreds
I think ripper wouldn't hurt anybody unless a creature was perceived a threat and if a person were to save ripper's life then he would in turn be grateful to said person, also even possibility ripper would ally with said person also even bond/view the person with equal respect on equal footing despite knowing he was made with military intent. Also if people take into account his past behavior then some how be able to rehabilitate ripper then he could start to realize that world isn't a cold, dark place as he views it
The thing is, Ripper is a psychopath. Even the Indominus was lashing out, out of anger at being confined her whole life. But Ripper just wants a body count bigger than anyone else's. He flat out enjoys every minute of fear and pain he can make a victim endure before killing them.
At best, you me just be killed quick and painlessly as a "Thank you".
If it ate recently before getting trapped, you have a 50 50 chance. If its starving as it gets out you are absolutely dead
This is a hard qustion.Uummmmm I got it! Shine language thats the way to go.
Fang shine language?
TheOnly ShinyUmbreon You know the one that people that cant speak talk with ther hands.The Indoraptor cant speack so lets say the pearson who is trying to free him teaches him shine language.
Fang OHHHHHHH YOU MEANT *SIGN* LANGUAGE, DIDNT YOU, that makes a lot more sense...
Fang do u mean sign language
Im dead lmao
now I can only imagine the indoraptor sitting with the little girl helping her with her math home work because of what you said about the math home work XD
Me: I save you, you save me?
Indoraptor: *HELL NO!* (pounces)
Lol
Dennis nedry scream
All of it's life it's only known the concept of what we consider torture and no matter how many times we save it, it'll always see humans as torturers, if ingen(under Hammond) created it the indoraptor would've acted like a "normal" dinosaur since they take care of their animals but since it wasn't created by ingen it was always treated as a living object not a living creature as we see it in an auction in the trailers
Welcome to Jurassic Park John Hammond 1993
I feel like it would depend on the time that the situation took place , before it was trained or after.
Ripper? What about Reaper?
cause it's the name of an animal in Ark Aberration !!! lol
Victoria Nagy yeah, with extremely developped claws too, though the reaper is supposed to be an alien... (xenomorph)
What about calling the Indoraptor Pennywise?
hi
I want to sound scary and not funny.
I would let it kill me imagine at my funeral how bad ass would it be to have been killed by a f****** hybrid dinosaur!
I’ll save you darling if it kills me 💕🙂
If I bonded with it I know it spare me
Steven Wolf spear you
Ind0minus Rex0 zero twoooo
Ind0minus Rex0 is indorapter your brither?
More like blue and the indomonus Rex are lesbos cuz they got blues DNA and the I Rex so more like mothers
Spoiler Alert
But it is said in the movie by Doctor Wu that the indoraptor wasn't complete and wasn't for sale because it doesn't have compassion!
What I've learnt from this video. Indoraptor isn't a wolf
Great video Alteori. I think the Indoraptor will still kill you even if you saved its life. But if you raised it there is a possibility that it might not kill you.
It's like the story of the farmer and the viper.
"A farmer goes out into the snow one night, and finds a viper snake frozen on the brink of death. He takes it home, and sits it by the fire to save its life. When the viper came to, it bites the farmer, and the farmer dies from the poisonous bite."
The moral of the story: "Kindess to evil, will always be met by betrayal."
So my answer is yes. The Indoraptor would still kill you if you saved its life.
During the first Jurassic Park series of movies, some company came out with a series of comics involving the dinosaurs and many of the main characters. They even had Robert Muldoon (the game warden) in there, despite the fact he clearly died in the movies. However, there was a storyline where Dr. Sadler (one of the paleontologists) and Ian Malcom were on a plane trying to get some juvenile raptors to go down into the ocean, because they couldn't let the raptors get out into the wild, but they all survive, and were taken to some war lord/"crime boss" in a central American country as hostages/property. One of the raptors, a female, was injuried, and kept locked up for the time being. Dr. Sadler helped heal the creature, and it was noted that the raptor was permitting the woman to help her. There was a very clear discussion between Dr. Sadler and Malcom about how if the raptor could be free from the metal collar around her neck, or if the chain holding the animal back broke, the raptor would kill her without hesitation. Afterwards, there were panels showing the situation from the raptor's perspective. Malcom and Sadler were talking in some strange scratchy font indicating unknown words/sounds. Malcom and Sadler fought for a moment or two, while the raptor would move her head around while observing them, and then Sadler fell into Malcom's arms crying over being held against their will by a war lord who was training the raptors to kill for him with shock collars. Raptors are suppose to be intelligent animals, and many intelligent animals will permit others to help them, if they are restrained and have no choice in the matter, but that doesn't mean they like the idea or that it was their idea in the first place. They'd kill you and run off to die from their injuries in many cases.
Actually, seeing as it has been bred for military usage, it has to be designed to be compatible with humans. It has to take orders, it has to work alongside soldiers for hybrid operations, it has to recognize individuals for assassination, and many other things. There's no way they'd just use it as a killing machine because we already have killing machines. No, the Indoraptor has to be a multitool that is adaptable and versatile, and the development of such a brain using splicing will undoubtedly bring traits from those specimens into it. The Indominus, after all, tried to communicate with Rexy, and DID communicate with the raptors. We gave Indy a whole lot of individuality and potential. It's criminal to deny that same treatment to the Indoraptor. I believe that the Indoraptor would at least SPARE you if you saved it, not going into any kind of loyalty bond discussion. If it met you again, depending on the circumstances, THEN we could decide whether or not it would kill you this time. That would be interesting.
"I'm grateful, unfortunately for you though you're the only food I can see"-IndoRaptor
Dr. Henry Wu has said in the movie that it was a prototype grown in a closed environment and it didn't have the ability to perceive emotion like blue. THe current one that he had in the egges had this modification made after wu found this notion in the prototype. So with that being said it will still try to kill you.
He would spare your life, perhabs only once however, if your lucky however ge will always spare you until you attack him.
I think if it were treated more like a person and not a savage beast and given classes to cater to its intellect, then it could possibly develop a moral compass and it’s own code of conduct. It may even develop a sense of compassion and see people as it’s equals or even comrades. And with how intelligent it’s suppose to be, maybe it could’ve adapted from making animalistic hisses, snarls and growling to semi speaking in human tongues. And it probably could’ve been adept at sign language
Reminds me of the Xenomorph comic where one scientist tried to test this. It worked-kinda. When the Xeno got free, it hesitated to attack the nice human.. but it still cut them up. While the other scientists were killed or used to birth chest bursters.
So.... Maybe
Xenos still spared few humans like Church
The dog clip was hilarious
She never heard wings sound like a robot, she very well should have known
So sad to think Masie would think, how cute small Rippers
The girl with the dinosaurs would operate on him, because she knows those little hybirds are only at risk of being sold.
That made him frustrated when they said not to play with it
He may recognize that you are helping him, but I think it'd be more a marriage of convenience, than an outright pack formation.as soon as the immidiate threat was nutralized, he would turn on his savior.
0:39 what the fikety frick
keep up the good work :)
0:45 lol it's the Bell Witch all over again
I think if the Indoraptor could talk it would say "bro bro what are you doing get away from me" then if you did free it from its trap it would say "I said get away from me and now Ima kill you"
2:44 lol I can’t get over the bary looking thing like help
I love you're vids
This is probably one of those questions which cannot be reasonably answered until we see what Ripper is really like. For all we know, the trailer maybe creating a deliberately misleading depiction of him and he may just be a misunderstood animal trying to find his place in a world in which he shouldn't even exist. If that's the case, then maybe he is able to empathize with animals smaller and weaker than he is. This could be why Ripper didn't just attack the little girl in her bedroom. Of course, I personally believe that the trailers are telling it like it is. If that's so, I think the most you'd get from Ripper if you saved him would be a brief confounded expression, and then he'd slaughter you.
It would depend on how it was raised.
What if there were different situations
Like Riper is about to be killed by dinosaur or a human and me/you save him by let's say throwing or hiding them with a stick and then they attack me/you do you think Riper would save you?
Or what if let's Riper is assigned to kill a specific person or dinosaur and he sees you being attacked by seid person or dino what do you think he would do?
Hell no Ripper wouldn't think twice
I think it would, because it’s very smart, like a raptor plus the intelligence of other dinosaurs
I feel that ripper has a sadistic sense of humor and mindset as he is seen literally smiling at the man collecting teeth before killing him. But I also feel that if you were to unlock the cage and calmly turn your back and walk away he would be confused and may very well kill you with your back turned as most animals see that as an opening OR, he would try to toy with you like a cat would to a mouse. But as for a friend in ripper. I dont think that's an option unless you were seen as useful or highly dominant over ripper. These animal with the exception of blue see no companionship , they only see the necessities of their lives. Food, water, and rest. Even blue leaves owen as they aren't meant to be dogs. Ripper is intelligent enough to taunt with his tail. He is strong enough to pull himself up without breaking the glass around him with his weight. Why would he see us as useful to him is a more likable question. I am curious and hope you see this comment and appreciate my take on it. Love the videos
this is a very good theory. maybe you can do a video titled "what if maisie tamed the indoraptor" (correct me if i misspell it :') ) btw in my au of JWFK, (and the other films)the indoraptors name is fang.
Alteori btw while I was looking at one of the bedroom pictures of the indo raptor/Ripper I noticed that it blended in or camouflaged I can't remember which one it was but im pretty certain it was when it showed his face and teeth and stuff.
Dogs will only attack it's owner if the owner is bad, if it's scared, if the dog thinks the human is goingto hurt him, or if it has a disease that effects its mind
As a compassionate, yet lateral thinker, I'd give it some opiates. R.I.P. Indoraptor, you shall suffer not...
Remember fear equals indoraptor petting you
The best you could hope for is that it pauses slightly or kills you quickly
Yeah cause making it in the first place was such a good idea your gonna put your body near it to save it
Oooo very scary music i mean it just doesn't exacly fit the vid
I think the indoor raptor was trying to get to the little kid cause you been trying to get to her
raptor are like wolf's in a pack raptors are in a pack and a random wolf saves the wolf in the pack they join so as the raptor pack as well
Why such scary music??? 😕 (I know why just its creepy!)
Because the indoraptor is one of the smartest dinosaurs i think i might understand that your helping it but still might hurt you
I think indoraptor is intelligent enough to take pity on those it doesn't see as prey
The indoraptor s name is Ripper?
Plus Kash was trying to put little eatie with him, just to test something
I feel like Ripper would not kill you if he imprinted on you like blue and owen. However that is still debated based on the hostility of Ripper.
Well in the movie Owen pushes the lever to stop the cage that the Indoraptor is in Owen mostly saves the Indoraptor from going to Russia. In the scene the Indoraptor doesn't kill Owen then closer to the ending the Indoraptor try's to kill Owen but doesn't. It's very strange that the Indoraptor was only going for Maisie
I was planning to subscribe but, i refuse to sub to someone who thinks dogs are at fault for the attacks. If you are attacked by a dog there *is* a reason behind it that can be pointed back at the owner. Dogs do NOT just simply attack. Primal instincts aside, as they are related to wolves but these instincts only come out when the dog is truly pushed into a feral state, a dog is Domesticated and must be trained to show certain traits. Dogs were domesticated and were selectively bred to show off compassion + Loyalty toward humans. They were bred to be hunting dogs, working dogs, and so-on. However, some breeds (i.e, the breeds bred for Fighting, toy breeds, and most working dogs actually) require more training as they are what one could call Stubborn. They require more training and a stricter hand (not an abusive hand, mind you) to prevent them from turning aggressive. Careless pet owners *create* aggressive dogs. I know this from experience as i failed to socialize my dog when she was young. She became aggressive and territorial as a result when she was an adult. My lab, the breed is as of late not recommended for families with children due to their hunting capabilities (A lab? Attack someone? What?), has been socialized and trained and you would never guess it! But, he's FRIENDLY. It takes training and proper care of an animal otherwise, YES, they will show aggression. But that isn't just for dogs, that's for Any animal. If Indorex or even Indoraptor was shown the same treatment as Blue (who, let's face it, while Owen knew what she was capable of- he still pretty much treated her as a dog, and let's also face it- she pretty much was a prehistoric dog) they'd of likely grown up into Apex predators, yes, but they likely would of at least been willing to listen to a human and show a trace of loyalty toward said human. But, because they were treated horribly (like a monster and object in the case of Rex, and abused and treated like an object in case of raptor) they ended up becoming highly aggressive and unable to show remorse or empathy.
If indoraptor was shown affection, or general care, yeah there's a chance he'd attack but let's face it- he likely also wouldn't know what care was so at the same time you'd likely confuse him. If you took careful measures (i.e, showing him compassion/care/kindness from a safedistance while he is enclosed (i.e, offering him fresh food) you'd gain his interest. Slow and steady wins the race and in the case of a hybrid like him, Slow and steady is also safer than trying to rush to gain his attention (i.e such as freeing him when he's trapped or something) as all that will do is possibly cause him to confuse you for another tormentor (i.e, he could confuse you for someone trapping him instead of freeing him) or possibly confuse you as potential prey.
My point here? There is a difference between Indoraptor and Dogs- One was bred to be used for war, the other was bred for Loyalty. In addition, wolves are actually a poor comparison for Indo. Believe it or not, wolf attacks aren't very common as a singular wolf - much like a singular dog - can be dispatched easily by a human being attack by it. Hell, a simple punch to the snout can damage it's sense of smell and cause it to run away in simple confusion. Most wild-dog breeds are more inclined to run away, only standing ground if directly threatened (i.e, you tried to kick one of them, for lack of better example), or if there is a den housing pups very closely by. The only known breeds not to actually run from confrontation with humans are African wild dogs and Dingoes. I suppose you could also throw Hyenas in there but hyenas are under a different genus.
Their frequency varies with geographical location and historical period. Gray wolf attacks are rare because wolves are often subsequently killed, or even extirpated in reaction by human beings. As a result, wolves today tend to live mostly far from people or have developed the tendency and ability to avoid them.
Less often, people are bitten by cornered coyotes, or even more rarely, rabid coyotes. There have only been two recorded incidences in the United States and Canada of humans being killed by coyotes.
"The motivation for lots of dog bites is fear," he says. "Others are territorial - if they're guarding something that they highly value, or defending their favourite resting place, their bed... Or if they've learned to defend, say, a dog bowl - that can result in aggression."
So, what would make a dog turn so dramatically? Experts say that dogs can be aggressive when they feel frightened and for most bites, the motivation is fear. Dogs, by nature, are territorial and they guard something which they value highly, and they defend their favorite resting place.
However, Fear and fright are often results of *not* training your dog (i.e, you need to train your dog to not fear things like people/other dogs- a unconfident dog is an accident waiting to happen.) or simply not exposing your dog to anything they may possibly come across. In addition, guarding is a *awful* behaviour as for many small breeds that leads to Toy-aggression (chihuahuas, for example, are very prone to toy aggression) and bigger breeds can lead to food/foodbowl aggression. All these aggressions are things you can train out early and, if you start slow, even later in life.
Note, i speak from both Experience and Knowledge on and with dogs. While i am not a certified trainer or a vet (but honestly, listening to vets is where a lot of people tend to gain false ideas on animals) i have grown up with dogs my entire life and have been training my dogs since i was around 13. (i'm now twenty). In those seven years i have trained around 10 dogs and all were fairly friendly animals. In addition, i have done research on animals since i was thirteen as i once aspired to be a vet (but i found i would likely be unable to handle euthanization, so, i decided to lean towards writing instead). Most of what i've supplied can be found online with the right wording (i.e, Why do dogs attack owners) or even heard from Dog Trainers such as Victoria on 'It's me or the dog' which is shown here on youtube. (note, i don't recommend caeser as he is actually an advocate for dog cruelty devices - such as prong collars which are capable of collapsing a dog's trachea.)
What i wanna know is if you had a good enough bond with a velociraptor like blue and owen, when the velociraptor allow you to ride it and carry to safety or attack you iff you tried
Y u no have 10mil subs yet!?
I'm so hipped for fallen kingdom
My morals wouldn’t let me let anything suffer
If it understands your body language it would understand you were saving it but it wouldn't spare your life.
He shouldn't have the opposite fate as indominus, having a pack to tame him, while indominus needed a owner
Ripper does have a heart of COLD
Prephaps if the person not only save, but take care of an injured Indoraptor is possible to develop a bond
2:23 that laugh tho...
Henry did this to Elise who didn't know until it was late enough that she found something that smelled simlar meaning she never thought about that one time with weird bug
Hence her dear spinosaurus mixed boy ment so much to her, but Kash made him to have been a dinosaur who never ate most of his prey, and never took prey that wasn't live after Daniel ended up in his cage
I think it's 50 50 chance I'd attempt to save him but I'd try talking in a non aggressive voice first I mean if he does kill you at least he might do it faster as an act of mercy it would probably be confused as to why your trying to free it that might be the key here to the situation but yeah no it's 50-50 and with your life on the line not many people would.
I’m confused. There are comments from two months ago about fallen kingdom and it was not even out during that period
I think Ripper would recognize it because in Jurassic World, the indoraptor is made with DNA of Indominus with extra raptor DNA, who of which is blue's, Ripper would be capable because its roots are capable
the Indoraptor is a psychotic being, even worse than the Indominus, which at least tried to pack with the raptors
I like Ripper so much that i would even save his life if I knew that he would kill me afterwards.
The likelihood of saving it is you can’t it would kill you before you even tried to start saving the damn monster!
Good trick with the thumbnail I see you used a yellow gold color to trick us thinking it said a heart of gold then a heart of cold
I would save the indoraptor
Seeing this could have been helped if Elise would have told Owen that Bug had her DNA
Keep me searching for a heart of Cold...and I'm getting Warm....
If it is programmed to kill, then it must kill. If it is programmed to be intelligent, then it has chosen to kill from its intelligence, then it could maybe not kill you. Especially if it knew you before the incident, and then you tried to save it. If raptors weren’t some of the most perfect killing machines ever made, and you kept their nails cut and stopped them from biting, they would be the most adorable, fun pet imaginable. Imagine a raptor like blue sitting on your lap at home while you are watching the football game.