I was for a long while, but Bleed Glad just looks like such a good day 1~2 (or 3~5 if you're slow like I sometimes am xD) start. Then I can see how everything else is panning out and decide my second build. So Lacerate it is for me.
I feel you. There are so many more options (or perceived options). I haven’t flip-flopped so much on choices. I hope to have it nailed down before the 24h pre-launch mark.
Thanks for taking the time to put this together! It’s great to be able to see these builds organized from your educated perspective. Now if I can just pick one…
I rate this tier list as B tier for now, after the league starts things will become more clear. Check back after the league start for updates to my tier list tier list to see where it settles.
Recombs cost gold and the material you get from disenchanting items in your town. The disenchanting takes real time and I have a hunch it will be the limiting factor when it comes to recombs.
i guess i just go for div card shifting on a nice linear t16 map i like, maybe atoll, and focusing on these league mechanic shrines that can be found on a map. i think i go for a summoner build because i have good experience with minions on linear/narrow maps. running essences is also always a good idea with minions, and i might try to play around with blight on the atlas. double annoint and the new oil will have great value!!!!!!!!!!!!! i might add something simple on top like strongboxes or exiles.
Surprised to see Explosive trap lower than PS Locust miner. I thought ET had higher numbers for bossing and had less of conditions to trigger than these kind of mines + with shrapnel mapping is smoother
Retaliation skills hit hard, but they also have a 3 or 4 second delay on them. So, when you do the math, they're hitting for about as hard as any one or the other, buffed up melee skills.
Delay can be lowered, you can also chain them, almost permanently. There are some caveats though like first block/proc (before you get lucky) and it's not zoom zoom style. Should be very comfortable though
Might not like to here it, but ultimatum might be the gold farming plus Alva. Monsters now drop loot, 1 13 round survive ultimatum will be giving a ton of monsters
I haven´t played PoE much. Played some D4 and thought Rogue is fun. I like mobility and high skill cap, don´t mind beeing squishy. Anything you would recommend as a starter this season for me?
Anything to do with SRS guardian (elemental) on this list by any chance or any pob's of something more new only got guides from 3.22/3.23 but i dont think much has changed?
I'm shooketh. I dunno what to do. I want to get those 36 challenges for once for that cool portal. I was thinking hexblast mines but getting a curse ring is annoying. I know I can use dreadarc unique in the meantime. What do you think guys? Explosive trap got me 3 voidstones last league, that wasn't bad. Hexblast definitely feels better though
Everyone saying that Recomb isn't as strong as Necropolis league... When I stopped playing Necropolis league I thought everyone was saying the mechanic was total crap. Did it get improved later in the league?
it was crappy in terms of the process of crafting...the power level was absolutely through the roof for certain crafts...could easily make a perfect ele or phys bow for instance...literally perfect. for 10 div i bought a triple T1 ele bow with all the mods i wanted...and everything was max rolled. it was insane.
Archmage will be good but tbh playing the same build doesn't really entice me(same with any bow builds). Gonna play bleed glad, should be decent and pretty fun. Wish me luck and hopefully league start is going to be good for everyone
Question since you played it. Is archmage fun throughout the leveling? I watched ziz video and he said it wasn't until he got the endgame setup going which if that's the case I don't even wanna try archmage cause I like builds you feel strong all the way till the end
@@SheldonEls i mean, POEGuy is an honest dude, what you see is what you get. if you like the playstyle it will be good. I just think that he should be on lists too.
Ziz is less min maxed for the endgame super investment part. You could start with zizz stuff and learn from Goratha the more min max stuff and ideas. Either way, for starting both are around the same logistics, playing the early stuff till you reach red maps.
Its there, A+ tier Ground Slm/EQ its a generic Slam build, you can fit 90% of slams in there and it will work, what amazes me is the fact that is a A+ tier, with those warcry + buff + Crushing fist, i expected a S+ tier.
thinking about playing poe for the first time. all the guides and vids look so confusing and meant for decade exp players, so im thinking i'll go in blind.
It's a leaguestart tierlist not overall tier list. Leaguestart purpose is to complete atlas as fast as possible and to farm currency as efficiently as possible *for as cheap as possible*, so investing into defense is a waste of currency because 6 portal gaming is more efficient.
Im just shocked that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE EVEN MENTIONED dex stacking Hiero siege balista. I mean ffs, the most dumbest one button league starter that can get all 4 stones and can do ALL CONTENT IN THE GAME, and if you want to do bossing just switch to shrapnel balista and you can boss carry. I mean the most expensive piece you need is the split personality jewel, everything else is like 10c at best.
I am crippled by build indecision lmao. More so than ever
I was for a long while, but Bleed Glad just looks like such a good day 1~2 (or 3~5 if you're slow like I sometimes am xD) start. Then I can see how everything else is panning out and decide my second build. So Lacerate it is for me.
I feel you. There are so many more options (or perceived options). I haven’t flip-flopped so much on choices. I hope to have it nailed down before the 24h pre-launch mark.
Just pick an ascendency, or even just a base class. With respecs for gold it's going to be easier than ever to change direction later on.
I went with a classic, the Ice Boi Hierophant, it works great and isn't experimental
I have changed my build 4 times already.
settlers of cowgirl CAUGHT
Petition for ggg to rename league
Secrets of cowgirl*
WE getting a cowgirl secret level? :)
Guess Sushi is just trying to Milk some more views
funny thing I always thought Tujen is saying "for the cowgirl" everytime I finished killing all expedition mobs
do you not know how to read?
Wash your back!
Thanks for taking the time to put this together! It’s great to be able to see these builds organized from your educated perspective. Now if I can just pick one…
Make a wheel with all of them and spin. Let fate decide😅
I rate this tier list as B tier for now, after the league starts things will become more clear.
Check back after the league start for updates to my tier list tier list to see where it settles.
We await your decision eagerly.
TY for your work sushi
I think Explosve Trap guide from Fearless Dumb0 has been updated for 3.25
Recombs cost gold and the material you get from disenchanting items in your town. The disenchanting takes real time and I have a hunch it will be the limiting factor when it comes to recombs.
Perfect agony Poison LS assassin or pathfinder with pneumatic dagger is the move I think
In Ruetoo's frostblades it says "S+ if not toxic cat", what does this mean?
same question, maybe Ruetoo is a toxic cat? or what
@@Pudzhadzh yeah that's what i was thinking. Im not in ruetoo's crowd enough though to know if its a meme or not, who knows
I know this isn't really listed as a starter but I'm so curious about that poison spark
i guess i just go for div card shifting on a nice linear t16 map i like, maybe atoll, and focusing on these league mechanic shrines that can be found on a map.
i think i go for a summoner build because i have good experience with minions on linear/narrow maps.
running essences is also always a good idea with minions, and i might try to play around with blight on the atlas.
double annoint and the new oil will have great value!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i might add something simple on top like strongboxes or exiles.
Surprised to see Explosive trap lower than PS Locust miner.
I thought ET had higher numbers for bossing and had less of conditions to trigger than these kind of mines + with shrapnel mapping is smoother
could you make a rog guide in your style ? i would like to see how you do it! thanks
Getting back into POE since 2016, what is rog?
what do you think of Connors molten strike of the zenith build?
What if it is deep delve. The way it was talked about scaling made it maybe sound like it could be.
Ima play oro slayer flicker, decent dps with barely any investment, but tons of new op endurance charges
Any thoughts on siege ballistas for league start??
Glad to hear your gonna chill a bit for leaguestart, some of your past ones have seemed excessive
U should check out magefists flickerstrike starter
I hope you’re joking
Check TheBritishExile's Bleed SST Champ, might be added to list
Retaliation skills hit hard, but they also have a 3 or 4 second delay on them. So, when you do the math, they're hitting for about as hard as any one or the other, buffed up melee skills.
That’s not necessarily true if you invest in them.
Delay can be lowered, you can also chain them, almost permanently. There are some caveats though like first block/proc (before you get lucky) and it's not zoom zoom style. Should be very comfortable though
Might not like to here it, but ultimatum might be the gold farming plus Alva. Monsters now drop loot, 1 13 round survive ultimatum will be giving a ton of monsters
How many subs to get my lightning converted chain hook balista totem ascendant on that list?
I haven´t played PoE much. Played some D4 and thought Rogue is fun. I like mobility and high skill cap, don´t mind beeing squishy. Anything you would recommend as a starter this season for me?
Lightning strike deadeye from crouching tuna. Slayer also a good ascendancy
People can say what they want but MSoZ Destructive Play atlas gonna be huge.
If lucky easy leaguestart or painchamp start!
Isn’t just kalandra mirror broken with recomb? If you get 5-6 mega juiced mods on a ring/amulet xD
Anything to do with SRS guardian (elemental) on this list by any chance or any pob's of something more new only got guides from 3.22/3.23 but i dont think much has changed?
I'm shooketh. I dunno what to do. I want to get those 36 challenges for once for that cool portal. I was thinking hexblast mines but getting a curse ring is annoying. I know I can use dreadarc unique in the meantime. What do you think guys? Explosive trap got me 3 voidstones last league, that wasn't bad. Hexblast definitely feels better though
Play dreadarc like everyone dw
Everyone saying that Recomb isn't as strong as Necropolis league... When I stopped playing Necropolis league I thought everyone was saying the mechanic was total crap. Did it get improved later in the league?
it was crappy in terms of the process of crafting...the power level was absolutely through the roof for certain crafts...could easily make a perfect ele or phys bow for instance...literally perfect. for 10 div i bought a triple T1 ele bow with all the mods i wanted...and everything was max rolled. it was insane.
Sushi what build do you think will be able to farm simulacrums comfortably on day 2-3?
Any thoughts on Aero's Iceshot of Pen miner Deadeye? :D
Top of my list atm
Bleed glad in B tier because its kinda experimented and other builds are tested and proven to be good, or is there some new catch in bleed glad?
I was view #5000 - great list Spicy thanks for the docs, really helps!
hey, anyone got a atlas tree for frostbolt archmage? or does that build clap expedition early?
Archmage will be good but tbh playing the same build doesn't really entice me(same with any bow builds). Gonna play bleed glad, should be decent and pretty fun. Wish me luck and hopefully league start is going to be good for everyone
Question since you played it. Is archmage fun throughout the leveling? I watched ziz video and he said it wasn't until he got the endgame setup going which if that's the case I don't even wanna try archmage cause I like builds you feel strong all the way till the end
can someone tell me which of builds in the list are good for expedition early in the league ?
good job my man, may u be blessed!
What build would be good to do the simulacrum strat mentioned at the beginning?
Hexblast probably the best for that
What's the toxic cat/kitty?
great video!
i thought lacerate gladi would be higher in tier. still don't know what to play^^
What a surprise Sushi playing Archmage DD
What about Tati's Storm burst Totems? :)
In SST slayer Ruetoo spread sheet section has "need return rune work" what is that mean guys? Do we have new enchant?
Yes. Go watch the reveal video.
will Ventrua update his hexblast guide for 3.25?
Why "affliction" hashtag tho...
Why is pconc recommended as a sanctum farmer?
what are the mtx for 3:53 and 4:00?
Do u know someone that is League starting Ball Lighning of Orbiting ?
Im a bit scared about the 50k gold and 1k enchant cost of new recombs.
Lighting Strike Warden or Deadeye?
Where's that essence drain contagion build
I’m doing flicker strike phys impale slayer
anyone got a dual strike slayer build for 3.25? thank you
what is the best mecanic you can do with frostbolt ice nova???
WHATEVER YOU WANT
I just really want bleed block eq glad to be pretty good
Should be. Albeit I think 1h shield versions are good.
How about PoEGuy's Siege Ballista starter?
same here, I'd like to know if it's good :)
@@SheldonEls i mean, POEGuy is an honest dude, what you see is what you get. if you like the playstyle it will be good.
I just think that he should be on lists too.
What do you think about fubgun's LS Slayer?
Expensive and a bit squishy, his day 2 standard is a headhunter so take that as you will
Can we petition to have our build included on the list? :)
should i be following gorathas or zizarans guide for archmage?
Whichever you prefer. Both are pretty good for league start!
Ziz is less min maxed for the endgame super investment part. You could start with zizz stuff and learn from Goratha the more min max stuff and ideas. Either way, for starting both are around the same logistics, playing the early stuff till you reach red maps.
tricky hexblaster or dirty skullthrower
thank you
salute
Google should be sued, and someone jailed for not having a built-in dark mode feature MY EYES! Good video though.
Use darkreader extension
You should be sued being awake only during night and sleeping all the sunlight hours. smh
what about sunder jugg? its missing in the tier list.
Its there, A+ tier Ground Slm/EQ its a generic Slam build, you can fit 90% of slams in there and it will work, what amazes me is the fact that is a A+ tier, with those warcry + buff + Crushing fist, i expected a S+ tier.
Who tf made this crazy Flicker PoB from the List? I need to know.
Dark pact warlock ?
oh god he's already yappin
I do love me some cowgirl
For the cowgirl!
bro this is definitely better
Anyone looking to league start Consecrated Path??
How bad is generals cry yall think?
surprised that occultist hexblast wasn't mentioned as S+ tier
sabo/trickster are insanely weaker in terms of dps
🤡
what is "rog"?
Expedition league. Rog the dealer
Totems builds where? :(
-"dont be blowing all your gold on the black market"-
mission rejected.
I'm so ready to lose all my gold to gamba, I know I won't be able to hold back.
thinking about playing poe for the first time. all the guides and vids look so confusing and meant for decade exp players, so im thinking i'll go in blind.
no way lightning strike deadeye is above slayer
Welp, changed buildstarter yet again
Wdy think about Conor molten strike of zenith
after league starting bama last season, it feels trash without cooldown invest, wouldnt recommend
What about Ice Shot miner?
what about volcanic fissure of snaking? isnt that any good?
That is what I will be playing.
Is wildwood ascendancy still a thing ?
no they removed it
Im expecting 5 ways to be the best gold per hour
Why Deadeye LS is S+ and warden is S? Deadeye have better clear, but Warden better as allrounded(survive + more dmg(even if shock is hard to stack)?
deadeye objectively better for leaguestart purposes
It's a leaguestart tierlist not overall tier list. Leaguestart purpose is to complete atlas as fast as possible and to farm currency as efficiently as possible *for as cheap as possible*, so investing into defense is a waste of currency because 6 portal gaming is more efficient.
he said tiers are subjective. Honestly you can pick and play any S, A, B tier and you will be fine.
video for the hexblast trickster: ua-cam.com/video/OkmlNkjsZTI/v-deo.html
shpishy shushi
спасисуси 🙃
Redvile xdd
Mmhmm
garf
Flicker b tier? Noob detected😂 flicker is always s 🗿
Im just shocked that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE EVEN MENTIONED dex stacking Hiero siege balista. I mean ffs, the most dumbest one button league starter that can get all 4 stones and can do ALL CONTENT IN THE GAME, and if you want to do bossing just switch to shrapnel balista and you can boss carry. I mean the most expensive piece you need is the split personality jewel, everything else is like 10c at best.
Shh don't tell them😂
Thank you for the google doc list!