Wonderful comparison video. I personally prefer the genuine cadmiums. To my eyes, they just have a richness and vibrancy that the hues can't match. The hues are definitely still lovely though 😊
I don't use many cadmiums in watercolor (love them in oils, though), and it appears they still don't have the hues quite down yet. And as you mentioned in another comment, it would be a sad day indeed if cobalts, cadmiums, and others were taken away from us. Nothing can match the texture and colors they give.
I prefer the cadmiums. they seem more vibrant to me and I like how they behave in mixes. I don't use an airbrush and I don't put my drink next to me when I paint (anymore, I learnt that lesson), so I don't worry too much about the toxicity
The Schmincke versions are almost all single pigment paints, so I'd be inclined to choose them when I come to replace my existing cadmium colours. I don't have many cadmium paints. All 4 are Kuretake paints: Cadmium Red/Scarlet/Orange/Yellow. They are intense, opaque paints; they're almost like gouache.
Thanks for the video comparison. The cadmiums are all noticeably more beautiful. For me, the toxicity issue with watercolor paints is a bit much. I looked it up. "Cadmium is a natural element found in tiny amounts in air, water, soil, and food. All soils and rocks, including coal and mineral fertilizers, contain some cadmium." So how is my having a tube of cadmium yellow light bad for the environment? Maybe I'm being stupid, but I can't see it.
I used to use cadmium orange in watercolor. The only way to find out if the are a good replacement is in mixes and I never tried the hues myself yet. I'm really not sure how well Cadmium Orange Hue would neutralize but I'm sure I could easily preplace one of the cadmium yellows and the reds.
I'm loving these comparisons! Thank you for doing all the hard work for us. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐. Like you, I'm a huge fan of the cadmiums. Absolutely lightfast, brilliant, opaque. They are superb pigments. The hues can never match them. You can now buy cadmium free cadmium paints. Maybe a comparison video of those? (Please pretty please).
You CANT beat or FULLY imitate cadmium pigments. Just the pure color and strength is just awesome and exactly what you need,when u need it. DS has done a decent job with there hues.....but a "Professional" line should first offer the REAL pigment variation before they even think about a hue IMO..... I dont mind mixes but to he hues should only be in student grade to keep the cost down on some of the more expensive pigments.... Like Winser Newton has done...keeping there cadmium colors but offering a cad free version for those who CHOOSE NOT to use cadmiums....or for kids.
I love cadmium colors! Would you be willing to do a color mixing video to see if the multiple pigments of the imitations hold up to the cadmiums? Would be interesting to see! Not sure if it would sway me away from cadmium paints either way
I think the big thing with the cadmium colors is the way they mix and separate in the mixes. There's no way that can be replicated with any other pigment. Would love to see a mixing test if you feel like making a video on that, although I think you're working off dots here, but I know you have at least some tubes of cadmiums. Have you tried mixing cad red light or med with cobalt teal or turquoise yet? That's one of my favorite greys.
I really like cadmium orange and red for texture qualities so I don’t care too much about mimicking hues, but I cannot replace my cobalt colors.🥲 They’re so beautiful.
I think the yellow hues are pretty. I would love to see the Winsor and Newton hues. I wouldn’t buy those because they’re expensive but they’re okay to me.
Many brands are trying to push the cadmium free etc. As they're concerned for consumers and still charge the same amount for the hues as the genuine cads etc. The cad genuine looks much nicer than the hues imo anyway. Have a great day
I'm a bit surprised that the Qor cadmium yellow medium I got was so much more saturated than the Schmincke by the same name! For some, that might be a good thing.
I think it’s good when companies offer alternatives to cads, although I like the real thing. I wish they would quit using the fugitive PY83 though. kim Crick has shown it fades in Florida sunlight, and my mixes have faded in the MidAtlantic in my testing. I wont buy any mixes with that pigment anymore. PY110 or PY139 are much more stable and serve as good orangey yellows to tone. But I’m sure PY83 is probably cheaper.
I love the way cadmiums look, but I try to avoid them as much as possible. DS did a pretty good job matching the colors, but they aren't quite there yet.
The hues definitely seem to lay down differently on the paper, or is that a brand thing and to do with formulation? The real cadmium’s are much more vibrant. I am more interested in how pigment interact with each other that anything else other than lightfastness. I find cadmium’s hard to use but maybe I have not yet discovered the best ways to use them. I love orange-red but yet have to find one that really hits the spotI am looking for. Interesting comparison. I have no DS in cadmium or cadmium hue, but do have most of the Schmincke ones you show. Going on this I would not be in a hurry to replace them, though I do have other yellows as well….
The Cadmiums are definitely more vibrant! I think we're close to a time that Cadmiums and Cobalts are going to be discontinued by law, due to their toxicity. As with other Hues though, while we can replicate their color (most of the time, but not always), we can't replicate their texture and their painting intricacies. Also, most Yellows are notoriously non-lightfast outside the cadmium range.
It will be a sad day for us painters if they ever do ban cobalts and cadmiums. I’m sure I remember reading that the toxicity from paint is pretty negligible in the larger scheme of things?
@@JayNathanWatercolor thats right. comparing what the pigment codes are compared to actual toxic cadmium, they arent the same. if anything all this "scare campaign" information from online forums would be enough to scare the buyers away, and if nobody is buying, the manufacturers wont sell.
I love the vibrancy of cadmiums and the fact that they are reliable through the brands
The hues look rather sad compared to the genuine cadmiums. Interesting comparison
They do don’t they? 🤣
Schmincke is my favorite brand. But for Cadmiums, I choose Holbein brand over all the rest. They are outstanding.
I have several Winsor and Newton cadmium watercolors. I particularly like the scarlet.
Wonderful comparison video. I personally prefer the genuine cadmiums. To my eyes, they just have a richness and vibrancy that the hues can't match. The hues are definitely still lovely though 😊
I don't use many cadmiums in watercolor (love them in oils, though), and it appears they still don't have the hues quite down yet. And as you mentioned in another comment, it would be a sad day indeed if cobalts, cadmiums, and others were taken away from us. Nothing can match the texture and colors they give.
The winsor and newton cadmium red hue is in my opinion the closest to the genuine color, not perfect of course but the closest you can get
I prefer the cadmiums. they seem more vibrant to me and I like how they behave in mixes. I don't use an airbrush and I don't put my drink next to me when I paint (anymore, I learnt that lesson), so I don't worry too much about the toxicity
Liked by all of us who have drank paint water and rinsed our brush in our teacup
The Schmincke versions are almost all single pigment paints, so I'd be inclined to choose them when I come to replace my existing cadmium colours. I don't have many cadmium paints. All 4 are Kuretake paints: Cadmium Red/Scarlet/Orange/Yellow. They are intense, opaque paints; they're almost like gouache.
The genuine cadmium paints here can be quite opaque in mass tone but nothing like gouache.
Wow this is a fascinating comparison! I don't usually like cad colors personally, but the genuine ones look like they'd mix so well :)
Thanks for the video comparison. The cadmiums are all noticeably more beautiful. For me, the toxicity issue with watercolor paints is a bit much. I looked it up. "Cadmium is a natural element found in tiny amounts in air, water, soil, and food. All soils and rocks, including coal and mineral fertilizers, contain some cadmium." So how is my having a tube of cadmium yellow light bad for the environment? Maybe I'm being stupid, but I can't see it.
I used to use cadmium orange in watercolor. The only way to find out if the are a good replacement is in mixes and I never tried the hues myself yet. I'm really not sure how well Cadmium Orange Hue would neutralize but I'm sure I could easily preplace one of the cadmium yellows and the reds.
I'm loving these comparisons! Thank you for doing all the hard work for us. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐.
Like you, I'm a huge fan of the cadmiums. Absolutely lightfast, brilliant, opaque. They are superb pigments. The hues can never match them. You can now buy cadmium free cadmium paints. Maybe a comparison video of those? (Please pretty please).
You CANT beat or FULLY imitate cadmium pigments. Just the pure color and strength is just awesome and exactly what you need,when u need it. DS has done a decent job with there hues.....but a "Professional" line should first offer the REAL pigment variation before they even think about a hue IMO..... I dont mind mixes but to he hues should only be in student grade to keep the cost down on some of the more expensive pigments.... Like Winser Newton has done...keeping there cadmium colors but offering a cad free version for those who CHOOSE NOT to use cadmiums....or for kids.
I love cadmium yellows from Sennelier and agree with you about cadmiums in general. Pity that they are not so environmentally friendly as others
I love cadmium colors! Would you be willing to do a color mixing video to see if the multiple pigments of the imitations hold up to the cadmiums? Would be interesting to see! Not sure if it would sway me away from cadmium paints either way
Schmincke looks superior. Actually, I only have a few tubes of cadmium red, which is perfect for, say, an accent flower in a landscape or garden
I think the big thing with the cadmium colors is the way they mix and separate in the mixes. There's no way that can be replicated with any other pigment. Would love to see a mixing test if you feel like making a video on that, although I think you're working off dots here, but I know you have at least some tubes of cadmiums. Have you tried mixing cad red light or med with cobalt teal or turquoise yet? That's one of my favorite greys.
I really like cadmium orange and red for texture qualities so I don’t care too much about mimicking hues, but I cannot replace my cobalt colors.🥲 They’re so beautiful.
I think the yellow hues are pretty. I would love to see the Winsor and Newton hues. I wouldn’t buy those because they’re expensive but they’re okay to me.
Many brands are trying to push the cadmium free etc. As they're concerned for consumers and still charge the same amount for the hues as the genuine cads etc. The cad genuine looks much nicer than the hues imo anyway. Have a great day
I'm a bit surprised that the Qor cadmium yellow medium I got was so much more saturated than the Schmincke by the same name! For some, that might be a good thing.
I'll choose cadmiums and cobalts as long as I can afford them. I don't know much about enviromental factors. I need to search more on that.
I think it’s good when companies offer alternatives to cads, although I like the real thing. I wish they would quit using the fugitive PY83 though. kim Crick has shown it fades in Florida sunlight, and my mixes have faded in the MidAtlantic in my testing. I wont buy any mixes with that pigment anymore. PY110 or PY139 are much more stable and serve as good orangey yellows to tone. But I’m sure PY83 is probably cheaper.
I love the way cadmiums look, but I try to avoid them as much as possible. DS did a pretty good job matching the colors, but they aren't quite there yet.
The hues definitely seem to lay down differently on the paper, or is that a brand thing and to do with formulation? The real cadmium’s are much more vibrant. I am more interested in how pigment interact with each other that anything else other than lightfastness. I find cadmium’s hard to use but maybe I have not yet discovered the best ways to use them. I love orange-red but yet have to find one that really hits the spotI am looking for. Interesting comparison. I have no DS in cadmium or cadmium hue, but do have most of the Schmincke ones you show. Going on this I would not be in a hurry to replace them, though I do have other yellows as well….
I definitely think the cad pigments settle on the paper in a certain way. Amazing to make separating mixes with them.
Honestly this is getting serious.🤔🤔🤔Where IS that always first guy?
I wonder 🤔
I’m here, here, over here 🙋🏻♂️. Sorry, I’m doing the ironing 😂
Man people are faster than me now. You must have taken my advice and glued yourselves to your screens 😂😂😂😂
Couldn’t the ironing wait until after you’re first to comment? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😊
@@JayNathanWatercolor I have no idea what possessed me to include myself from my tablet. I could have just kept it next to me like I do at work 🤣
Cadmiums are the safest they've ever been thanks to technological advances. I use them and love them.
One, clearly, can see the difference between the real cadmium’s and the hues.
Schmincke are nicer more vibrant
The cadmiums glow, the hues are dull and lifeless.
The Cadmiums are definitely more vibrant! I think we're close to a time that Cadmiums and Cobalts are going to be discontinued by law, due to their toxicity. As with other Hues though, while we can replicate their color (most of the time, but not always), we can't replicate their texture and their painting intricacies. Also, most Yellows are notoriously non-lightfast outside the cadmium range.
It will be a sad day for us painters if they ever do ban cobalts and cadmiums. I’m sure I remember reading that the toxicity from paint is pretty negligible in the larger scheme of things?
Aren't the Benzimidazolones and Arylides excellent replacements for the cadmiums?
@@monsoon_magic2874 Hello 👋🏼. The Benzimidazolones and the arylides are not that opaque, although many members of these families are lightfast.
@@JayNathanWatercolor thats right. comparing what the pigment codes are compared to actual toxic cadmium, they arent the same. if anything all this "scare campaign" information from online forums would be enough to scare the buyers away, and if nobody is buying, the manufacturers wont sell.