@@stevenliang3213 incorrect, luigi actually cant kill light characters off of lylat but can rack up damage. Also rosa is bad matchup so I dont blame Elegant.
@@TheMouldyOne Bracket demons are people who take you out more then you do them. I saw earlier that they fought recently before today's tournament so I will check it out.
i mean, if theyre his bracket demons theres a reason he keeps losing to them? this frostbite was crazy in terms of the talent, he didn't have anything else to overcome that other players didn't.
Jason because it’s a really bad move over all it’s slow has huge endlag and and doesn’t even do that much damage or have that much knockback unless it’s a misfire but that’s a 1 in 10 chance so it’s not worth it
WeToxicFew • i know that, but throwing out a whacky move from once in a while can actually get your opponent by surprise, and since Luigi is an odd character, odd tactics could work. Im not saying he should spam it, im saying that if hes in a position where he could do it and play the odds, then he sometimes should, bc sometimes he struggles to get a kill, but that misfire can kill pretty well
5:14 Elegant's face after not killing someone off a grab at 40% Seeing Luigi players lose is one of ultimate's greatest pleasures (idc if hes not that good)
Luma's respawn time only 10 seconds - tbh you have to make th best of those seconds - and that is almost impossible to do especaily when Dabuz who plays masterfuilly goes on the offensive with easy to land attacks like dash attack and forwared air. So the death of the luma is so temporary that by the time you act on the lack of it, you've likely just chased the person around the stage into their own trap of having luma again and then going on the attck
@@stevenliang3213 yeah which is the totality of the strategy I am attempting to infer - that for most it is not really a great way to approach a good Rosalina player - you need to be fast enough in some ability or another to get in and out consistently - which is a so jarring of a way to impose on oneself a strategy - imagine if Joker had arsene by default and could control it's placement of hitboxes on the stage AND also disjointedly spray out hitboxes that also come out even tho youve cancelled a move and are already in a different position as the main character - or at least a limited version of it - with a it's own differing set of abilities Same problem with approaching Ice Climber's by "getting rid of Lala first" - well here's a much better way to approach the fight: get rid of her if the option to do so quickly and easily occurs: unlesss they disjoint and are exposed as attempting to bring their hitboxes back together: then strike the secondary character untiil then act as if they are a singular entity being projected in front of our around your actual target - consider every ability as if it's being projected from the luma and bait it and then project your assault PAST the luma whether you kill it in the process of getting to Rosa or not - your goal should be to at least act like it's not controlling your every move - cus then your not leading the dance - the Luma is and that is very frustrating way to play. A lot of the harassment style damage is a lot of star bits which people don't realize is only the coming out of the Luma and Rosa has nothing come out of her that I have ever seen even tho she has a little animation - it's just her controlling the luma Every moment you spend directly in front of the Luma standing there trying to decide when to attack is another moment where she can easily harass you from behind the luma - so if you can't kill it easily and prosecute a set of damage on Rosa in the time that it stays dead then what is the point - accept that this is fight where your going to take inherent risk and pick a character who can overwhelm them more easily quite frankly - its a simply not a great matchup for luigi or any of the combo based close quarters brawlers. Especially since she can absorb projectiles with Down B - so thank you Lord and Savior they didn't let it heal her and get in there and put her on the backfoot - She fights behind an adorable star character that makes cute sounds and can't speak and each squeek might as well be a cry for help and mercy and for God to intervene and stop the madness - to me that's quite relatable frankly to a Failed Terrorist style State that fights it's only winnable scenario in a moderrn era by using it's citizens as puppets or living shields, meat weapons - She's an incapable and UN-elected Monarch who has no military capable of defending her Kingdom so she has her citizens out there one at a time taking bullets while she uses her deity like powers to control their movement. Crazy bitch might as well have the actual song Master of Puppets by Metallica playing as her theme music but no way would Nintendo go that route over generically rehashing the same Xylophone synth garbage they have been making someone sit in a studio and make for family friendly sounding profit motive. Now don't play the game by playing her game - aggress forward and overwhelm her with chaos.
Rapportus5 I really enjoy it when people recognize people’s talents rather than excuse it as playing a lame character or playing a lame playstyle. You’re a good person, thank you!
All the people who complained about Dabuz playing the matchup correctly, CRY MORE. Your salty rage tears are so delicious Props to Dabuz and Rosa mains
@@anudistsjury u mean a player that plays a lowerid tier character and trying to make the most of it instead of being like all those no name top tier whoes? Yeah I love cheering for him too
really? maybe its the fact that luigi is the most cancerous character to play against where he can zero to death or kill confirm up b off d-throw. You don't scrap with luigi at top level, that's just asking to lose. Luigi deserves to be camped out every game. Terrible character design that forces the opponent to camp.
yeah.. people say Luigi is mid tier or whatever but personally, I've never believed in tier lists. Luigi is one dangerous dude and when i play against him i respect every move he has cuz I'm not fucking with it. Every attack he throws combos into another attack - needless to say - If Luigi lands one grab or stray nair, know that you're eating either 30%-40% or a stock as long as the Luigi knows how to convert. Trade with Luigi twice and you're at 65%-80% (which is right where he wants you for an easy down throw-upB). There is no such thing as an even trade with him, you've gotta either get in/get out or risk eating a combo from him. Dabuz was playing pretty good sneaking in extra %s so often with the Luma sideB, because everytime Elegant got close to Dabuz, he paid for it.
@@shepeh2416 easily gimpable, yeah, but one wrong move and you're catching a dair to the dome, man. he can throw out like 3 dairs before losing any jump height. i play sheik so that's why i speak with such defense, because I'm in danger range with anyone 70%+ so i have to know the dangers of everyone i never said luigi was the best because i don't believe in tier placements. however, i did say he was dangerous. more specifically, i will definitely say Luigi is one of the most volatile on the roster. he can explode at any second because everything he spaces with combos into something else. low knockback uair, high hitstun nair, low landing lag fair, the bair is self explanatory, and amazing dair? i don't even need to say any more, if any other char had his nair they'd be busted. imma just say falcon with luigi nair would be busted.
Carlos Guzman so what? It was 5 games so the average is 5 mins; a normal match time. I’m surprised that it wasn’t longer cuz lol Dabuz and he’s fighting Luigi.
damn, so you really out here judging someone over something negligible because you feel the need to enforce your strict perception of what masculinity looks like? couldn’t be me 💀
@@vxel No shit people are judged. There are sociological and psychological and physiological norms. Are you not going to judge someone if they run around with half their cloths missing and shit running down their leg and call them crazy? You sound out of touch with reality. He isn't a woman.
running around half naked=/=wearing nail polish. what you said is the textbook definition of a slippery slope fallacy. it was probably something his gf put on for him and he was like “haha i’m gonna keep this for frostbite.” and even if he put it on himself, who cares? it really ain’t that deep. there’s absolutely no reason why you should be so resistant towards guys wearing nail polish. i don’t know if it’s your own fragile masculinity or if you’re just super resistant to any kind of change, but either way i just don’t care anymore. normalize boys with nail polish 2020 because absolutely no one cares about “norms” 💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽
Rosalina really ain't that bad at least we can't know until we see more of her still i think. But i still agree with the fist bump thing, and yea still was a good set despite all of that lol
Dabuz is a great player and he’s playing extremely cautious because he knows Elegant is an amazing player. He’s loyal to the character and does his best with her, even though she struggles with MANY things. I’m sorry you can’t find enjoyment watching this but I found it interesting how methodical Dabuz is with his playstyle. Instead of just saying it’s an annoying playstyle and / or character try to recognize the decisions they had to make in order to succeed
0:08
Pro player neutral
Lol
Not completely wrong
Actually he played smart, I’m pretty sure he was trying to get luma stuffed out since rosalina has way more range
lol. Dabuz at the end looking into the crowd like he was worried the caught him shop lifting or something xD
2:06 you can hear the mkleo prodigy set going on in the background lmao
I can literally feel it
robert holmes that Toast vs Samsora not Prodigy vs Leo
Think I heard them chanting _“TOAST! TOAST! TOAST!”_ which means it was either Toast vs Samsora or Toast vs Light.
shit y’all are right. toast is best waifu
That game was weird. Leo played worse than usual and couldn't get kills until over 150 percent
You've heard of Taunt to Get Bodied
Now get ready for Fist Pump to SD
that crowd is crazy
Who were they cheering for??
Noah Mitchel
Toast beat Samsora
It sounded just like the Prodigy vs MKLeo match I think
Memicchu 3:34 chants were for Toast
They’re watching a different match
22:14
Elegant I love you but...
YOU SHOULDNT HAVE!!!
that was the most dead inside thing ive ever seen
He probably did that because Dabuzz was playing campier than usual
Jorge Garcia : And he shouldn’t against a character who can zero to death off of one grab?
But karma got back to Elegant with his own SD
@@stevenliang3213 incorrect, luigi actually cant kill light characters off of lylat but can rack up damage. Also rosa is bad matchup so I dont blame Elegant.
22:14 the BIGGEST “we take those”moment
Lylat takes more stocks then players do. Literally the SD stage.
Not anymore ! ;3
A
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Damn he always ends up against his bracket demons, Dabuz, Marss or CDK.
You gotta feel bad for Elegant.
Actually a little while ago he took out CDK in winners and losers
@@TheMouldyOne Bracket demons are people who take you out more then you do them.
I saw earlier that they fought recently before today's tournament so I will check it out.
Gonna work hard
He’s gonna have his day
i mean, if theyre his bracket demons theres a reason he keeps losing to them? this frostbite was crazy in terms of the talent, he didn't have anything else to overcome that other players didn't.
Ah fist bumping and then losing the set in the end, I love it
This man spiked luma 2:39
😳 Dabuz kinda cute 😳 Dabuz kinda clean 😳 Dabuz lookin like the man of my dreams 😳
Will Fulton ah yes, some wise words from Danny DeVito himself
have you looked at elegant tho
Pelagius Septim It’s a tough choice between elegant thighs and dabuz lips
@@briangeer1024 definitely, dabuz has some thicc lips ik but elegant is just the full package
You ghey...
22:14 taunt to get bodied is still a thing uh
i wouldn't say it was a taunt tbh
Not much of a get bodied either
My man taunted irl
It's not a taunt but... meh
Deserved, dabuz played really boring here
23:10 that's karma if I've ever seen some
MoFi it seemed like Elegant’s fist numb was like; yay a “well deserved stock” than yes I won now.
7:40 DI'ing in is a viable mix up to avoid the up special from Luigi after getting grabbed. You can still get hit though.
Elegant you made us all want to SD after that...
I feel like Elegant should side b a little more, not all the time, but enough to make people double take their reads
Right! He never throws it out on stage
Jason because it’s a really bad move over all it’s slow has huge endlag and and doesn’t even do that much damage or have that much knockback unless it’s a misfire but that’s a 1 in 10 chance so it’s not worth it
WeToxicFew • i know that, but throwing out a whacky move from once in a while can actually get your opponent by surprise, and since Luigi is an odd character, odd tactics could work. Im not saying he should spam it, im saying that if hes in a position where he could do it and play the odds, then he sometimes should, bc sometimes he struggles to get a kill, but that misfire can kill pretty well
11:10 correct me if I’m wrong but, wasn’t Falln from SoCal? And if not then I’m certain at the very least Elegant has practiced against him a lot
Falln is from SoCal but he generally goes to tourneys elegant doesnt attend
In the end, I’m happy. Elegant came close to beating dabuz, dabuz proved that Rosa is good at top 32 of a major, and the game was close.
Not Rosa is good. Dabuz is good.
Rosa isn't even above lower mid tier
Rosa good and dabuz is great.
5:14 Elegant's face after not killing someone off a grab at 40%
Seeing Luigi players lose is one of ultimate's greatest pleasures
(idc if hes not that good)
Ikr
Damn that SD cost Elegant the match.
dabuz SD too.
soo nope
@@fullcoffee950 ya fr. Elegant was at 90 when he sd. Dabuz was at 40
@@fullcoffee950 yeah idk what hes smoking
delusion is real LOL
Amazing set!
Desde cuando elegant no es de NVR?
Luma's respawn time only 10 seconds - tbh you have to make th best of those seconds - and that is almost impossible to do especaily when Dabuz who plays masterfuilly goes on the offensive with easy to land attacks like dash attack and forwared air. So the death of the luma is so temporary that by the time you act on the lack of it, you've likely just chased the person around the stage into their own trap of having luma again and then going on the attck
Rapportus5 : With luigi’s poor mobility, that’s fairly difficult to do
@@stevenliang3213 yeah which is the totality of the strategy I am attempting to infer - that for most it is not really a great way to approach a good Rosalina player - you need to be fast enough in some ability or another to get in and out consistently - which is a so jarring of a way to impose on oneself a strategy - imagine if Joker had arsene by default and could control it's placement of hitboxes on the stage AND also disjointedly spray out hitboxes that also come out even tho youve cancelled a move and are already in a different position as the main character - or at least a limited version of it - with a it's own differing set of abilities
Same problem with approaching Ice Climber's by "getting rid of Lala first" - well here's a much better way to approach the fight: get rid of her if the option to do so quickly and easily occurs: unlesss they disjoint and are exposed as attempting to bring their hitboxes back together: then strike the secondary character untiil then act as if they are a singular entity being projected in front of our around your actual target -
consider every ability as if it's being projected from the luma and bait it and then project your assault PAST the luma whether you kill it in the process of getting to Rosa or not - your goal should be to at least act like it's not controlling your every move - cus then your not leading the dance - the Luma is and that is very frustrating way to play. A lot of the harassment style damage is a lot of star bits which people don't realize is only the coming out of the Luma and Rosa has nothing come out of her that I have ever seen even tho she has a little animation - it's just her controlling the luma
Every moment you spend directly in front of the Luma standing there trying to decide when to attack is another moment where she can easily harass you from behind the luma - so if you can't kill it easily and prosecute a set of damage on Rosa in the time that it stays dead then what is the point - accept that this is fight where your going to take inherent risk and pick a character who can overwhelm them more easily quite frankly - its a simply not a great matchup for luigi or any of the combo based close quarters brawlers. Especially since she can absorb projectiles with Down B - so thank you Lord and Savior they didn't let it heal her and get in there and put her on the backfoot -
She fights behind an adorable star character that makes cute sounds and can't speak and each squeek might as well be a cry for help and mercy and for God to intervene and stop the madness - to me that's quite relatable frankly to a Failed Terrorist style State that fights it's only winnable scenario in a moderrn era by using it's citizens as puppets or living shields, meat weapons - She's an incapable and UN-elected Monarch who has no military capable of defending her Kingdom so she has her citizens out there one at a time taking bullets while she uses her deity like powers to control their movement. Crazy bitch might as well have the actual song Master of Puppets by Metallica playing as her theme music but no way would Nintendo go that route over generically rehashing the same Xylophone synth garbage they have been making someone sit in a studio and make for family friendly sounding profit motive. Now don't play the game by playing her game - aggress forward and overwhelm her with chaos.
@@DekkarJr beautiful
Rapportus5 I really enjoy it when people recognize people’s talents rather than excuse it as playing a lame character or playing a lame playstyle. You’re a good person, thank you!
All the people who complained about Dabuz playing the matchup correctly, CRY MORE.
Your salty rage tears are so delicious
Props to Dabuz and Rosa mains
I agree
Ahhhh I was rooting for Elegant! Still a great set!
Elegant was so confused when Rosa fsmash hit him from below...
Brian Geer: more like why his super jump punch missed
Last game is 3 minutes on Lylat.
I’m scared for dabuz, but excited for Elegant
this didnt age well
I don’t mind - I like them both.
It was the sour up special in the first match that cost elegant the game, man he had that!
7:05 what was that. How did dabuz do that?
I am sadly not in the rosa discord
I would love the link to it tho
Lets go Dabuz
@@anudistsjury seethe
@@anudistsjury u mean a player that plays a lowerid tier character and trying to make the most of it instead of being like all those no name top tier whoes?
Yeah I love cheering for him too
25 minute set... Thats Dabuz alright
really? maybe its the fact that luigi is the most cancerous character to play against where he can zero to death or kill confirm up b off d-throw. You don't scrap with luigi at top level, that's just asking to lose.
Luigi deserves to be camped out every game. Terrible character design that forces the opponent to camp.
yeah.. people say Luigi is mid tier or whatever but personally, I've never believed in tier lists. Luigi is one dangerous dude and when i play against him i respect every move he has cuz I'm not fucking with it.
Every attack he throws combos into another attack - needless to say - If Luigi lands one grab or stray nair, know that you're eating either 30%-40% or a stock as long as the Luigi knows how to convert.
Trade with Luigi twice and you're at 65%-80% (which is right where he wants you for an easy down throw-upB). There is no such thing as an even trade with him, you've gotta either get in/get out or risk eating a combo from him. Dabuz was playing pretty good sneaking in extra %s so often with the Luma sideB, because everytime Elegant got close to Dabuz, he paid for it.
@@vTheStranger luigi isn't one of the best or top tier on the tierlists because once he goes off stage he can easily be killed
@@shepeh2416 easily gimpable, yeah, but one wrong move and you're catching a dair to the dome, man. he can throw out like 3 dairs before losing any jump height. i play sheik so that's why i speak with such defense, because I'm in danger range with anyone 70%+ so i have to know the dangers of everyone
i never said luigi was the best because i don't believe in tier placements. however, i did say he was dangerous. more specifically, i will definitely say Luigi is one of the most volatile on the roster. he can explode at any second because everything he spaces with combos into something else.
low knockback uair, high hitstun nair, low landing lag fair, the bair is self explanatory, and amazing dair? i don't even need to say any more, if any other char had his nair they'd be busted. imma just say falcon with luigi nair would be busted.
Carlos Guzman so what? It was 5 games so the average is 5 mins; a normal match time. I’m surprised that it wasn’t longer cuz lol Dabuz and he’s fighting Luigi.
Lets fucking goooo rosa! 🙏🏻🙏🏻💯💯
I hope Elegant beat Marss on losers bracket :(
4:22 nice
That first game was amazing
Great match to Dabuz da god
Elegant is wearing pink nail polish wtf...
okay? and he looks fabulous
@@vxel absurd on a guy
damn, so you really out here judging someone over something negligible because you feel the need to enforce your strict perception of what masculinity looks like? couldn’t be me 💀
@@vxel No shit people are judged. There are sociological and psychological and physiological norms. Are you not going to judge someone if they run around with half their cloths missing and shit running down their leg and call them crazy? You sound out of touch with reality. He isn't a woman.
running around half naked=/=wearing nail polish. what you said is the textbook definition of a slippery slope fallacy. it was probably something his gf put on for him and he was like “haha i’m gonna keep this for frostbite.” and even if he put it on himself, who cares? it really ain’t that deep. there’s absolutely no reason why you should be so resistant towards guys wearing nail polish. i don’t know if it’s your own fragile masculinity or if you’re just super resistant to any kind of change, but either way i just don’t care anymore. normalize boys with nail polish 2020 because absolutely no one cares about “norms” 💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽
惜しかったな〜 最後elegantもミスして自滅したの悔しいだろうな
Losing like this must suck
He was a loser from the start with the pink nail polish.
that crowd was so annoying
tbh does dabuz ever go in like he is just camping every fucking game...
He’s just playing the match ups correctly
please stop comparing everything to a sword move...
5:08 Dame da ne
Dabuz missed so many free punishes. Totally deserved to lose this
Why?
Laylet is a hell no character should be forced to fight in .its just a bad stage
ban lylat broken stage nobody likes it why is it still legal
swixx : Adapt
@@stevenliang3213 adapt to jank? This isn't melee bro
Cole Butler melee is cool idk why you brought it up as if ultimate doesnt have jank too. Both are great games you lame
@@p4sma421 I don't think he's saying it's bad i think he's saying it's really jank. Which is hard to disagree with.
He needs a haircut.
Whats up with the audience? Lol
Elegant is a noob
Rosalina is such a trash character. You can’t fist bump off the SD. Good set though.
Rosalina really ain't that bad at least we can't know until we see more of her still i think. But i still agree with the fist bump thing, and yea still was a good set despite all of that lol
Damn I feel bad for Elegant
Me too, his pink nail polish is cringe worthy.
WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I think he’s pretty
LAUREN SPAMMER
Elegant got robbed game one
I watched the first 2 games and just had to stop, Dabuz playing like straight cancer
and luigi isn't the embodiment of cancer? his 0-death kill confirm is the epitome of gimmick.
right
@@OMGlvl86turtlepilot confirm? Are you blind?
the potato dog oh, you mean the one that’s impossible to pull off and rarely works anymore? Ya
You mean Dabuz *played the matchup correctly*
Dabuz plays annoying characters and has an annoying playstyle
dabuz plays mediocre characters that require very smart and efficient play
Dabuz is a great player and he’s playing extremely cautious because he knows Elegant is an amazing player. He’s loyal to the character and does his best with her, even though she struggles with MANY things. I’m sorry you can’t find enjoyment watching this but I found it interesting how methodical Dabuz is with his playstyle. Instead of just saying it’s an annoying playstyle and / or character try to recognize the decisions they had to make in order to succeed
And Elegant is just plain annoying with his pink nail polish.
WaterspoutsOfTheDeep faaaaaaxxxx
Nah Davy’s Plays Actually Good Characters