I legit just got the dusk divers 2 launch edition that comes in a special box. Haven’t opened it yet, but super excited to play it on the PlayStation portal
You and I like the same games! I loved “Daemon x Machina”, and while it wasn’t up to Atlus’ usual work, “Soul Hackers 2” was good! Loved the characters & character design. The Sabbath system wasn’t my favorite, but still enjoyable. (I also got into “Vampire Hunter D” b/c of Sci-Fi channel showing it in the 90’s!. Both films are incredible!). Haven’t played “Dusk Divers 2” but I’ll give it a chance now!
Hallowed If you like mech stuff you should look at getting gundam breaker 4 it comes out at the end of this month and is gonna be amazing. Also last of us 2 doesn’t have a story it has idiotic drivel 😆
Well shoot the next time I come across Dusk Divers 2 I just might have to give it a shot as it seems like it could be a rater fun action style game that is quite different form the norm. Along with giving Persona 5 Strikers a shot even though I don't think I can play as Futaba which is something I always like a bought these games. As it would give everyone a little more time to shine. Like how Rise was given a character slot in p4arena ultamax.
I do not understand people who get upset over someone liking a game. There are plenty of games that I don’t like, but I’m glad that there are people who do.
because if you like a shit game the future games are going to be shit, most people like xenoablde 2 because they're not smart and so Xenoblade 3 and the DLC were tainted by the same flaws as 2, you are ruining my favourite franchise by being stupid I have no symphathy for you
@@SJMcK i know the feeling. I said I liked Legend of Korra on an Airbender video yesterday and ppl started ree'ing out. Let ppl like what they like, sheesh. Arguing w ppl will just make them more firm, esp if you do it in a nasty way.
@@Xenowolf8 Ironic you say that when there's a guy going through the whole comment section showing his hate boner for xc2 and trashtalking anyone who likes it, including the owner of the channel.
I didnt realize people hated P5 Strikers. I loved that game. It acted as a sequel and was much more of a Persona game rather than I Dynasty Warriors game (I love both series btw). The soundtrack was amazing, especially the remix of Last Surprise so freaking good!!
I'm surprised too. The game is good. It's a Warriors game that did something DIFFERENT. People kept saying that Warriors games are too repetitive so when they branch out people hate that?! The hell?!
OH MY GOD, THANK YOU! Twitter's hatred over XBC 2 is just annoying! All they do is scream how much it's a "sin" yet offer no meaningful criticism. They just call it bad just because it has big boobs and that's it! And Heaven forbid if you bring up the optional Bunny Girl.
yeah, whenever someone says its bad because big boobs or a character is sexualized because big boobs, my response is always the same " i dare you to go out into the street and say that to a real girl tell them they are bad, and sexualized simply because they went through puberty and have big boobs" lmao
The fact they never talk about the actual issues, like bad tutorials, map compass or field skills just shows that they never even played the game to give a valid opinion.
XBC2 is a great game , story and gameplay, a little complicated if you don't learn how to play but good once you know how to use the mechanics , the boobs is a plus for those that like it
My apathy of XC2 is more mechanics. I didn't like that the game Auto-saved every time you attuned with a gem. The lesser Blades really are useless as all of their abilities are just lessor of the rare blades and you can't use them to power up others. The blades are locked to each character unless you use an insanely rare item to transfer them. (One character can use all late in the game) The fact you could not attack while moving pissed me off because of the enemies that flee and get reinforcements. I beat it but it's definitely my least favorite of the Xenoblade games...
Xenoblade 2 is my favorite Xenoblade. The element-based combat was so fun once you learned how to properly Launch and Smash and pull off millions of damage! Couple that with the music, the locations and the characters and mwah! Loved it! 💕 Can't say the same for XC3. The game felt so humorless. The military aesthetic felt so stoic and cold. The Smash and Launch mechanics didn't feel nearly as satisfying to pull off as they did in XC2, and 3's final boss just draaaaaaagggggggeeeeeeddddd.... I'll take XC2 any day.
@@fikaieldjou Relax, it's about "gaming", not supreme court decisions or medical and financial advice. I imagine you are someone who goes to Comic Con wearing blue jeans and a black T-shirt while ridiculing others "unsophisticated" and "trashy" fashion.
2 is my second favorite behind X, but among the numbered games it's easily my favorite. 3 was infuriating with the constant tutorials that kept popping up even 5 hours in, forcing these long winded menu navigation prompts like we're too dumb to understand the concept. I couldn't get into it because every time I thought the game would let me actually play it for more than a few minutes it had to grind things to a halt just to tell me how to hit the party button, and explain the concept of a party, and force me to change the party members, then change them back, then ask if I wanted to hear the tutorial again.
@@davidk.8686 ok, i feel attacked there, think im catching some stray shots as i usually wear black t shirts and blue jeans, mostly because i dont really care about fashion and just wear what i feel comfortable in, lmao
Glad to see Hero must Die on this list. It's such a hidden gem. As for Soul Hackers 2, another big issue was the lack of a Switch version, which made no sense for a dungeon crawler. A late port with all the DLC included would've improved it's reception.
@@shoked99both XC and XC2 are top tier gems but you can seriously play them in any order (1 and 2) because they are almost virtually focused on their own world
I don't think so, I think it's because of the change in style from xeno chronicles to 2, if it were a direct sequel to x or xenosaga then I think they fit quite well. Or well that's what it seemed to me.
I never tried any of the Nep games for a long time, just writing them off as pure fan service. Then, on a lark (and a deep sale) I grabbed Megadimension Neptunia VII and was surprised that, under the Indeed vast amounts of fan service, there was a pretty damn solid rpg there lol
@@corbinkendall6330 They made a goated game just to not release it in the West (Pulseman), but at the very least he’s been immortalized in Rotom, who’s remained a staple in Pokémon.
Xenoblade 2 is my favorite of the series. It just hit everything I want from a JRPG and really got me into the series. I bounced off of 1 when it released on the Wii because the quests just burnt me out. So 2 did a really good job of pulling me in and properly enjoying the series. I have a couple of games on the list that are still on the backlog like Soul Hackers 2 that I have to find time to try out before I have an opinion.
Xenoblade 2? Hated? I didn't know that; the game was a massive success. I think the haters are just really vocal while the people who actually like it have moved on. Hating on games intended to appeal to the male-audience is pretty popular in the mass media nowadays.
I’m loving the frequent uploads lately! And I also like seeing games mentioned in multiple episodes. It’s basically a reminder for me to get a specific game I might be interested in.
Unlimited SaGa is one for me. I totally understand why western players didn't vibe with it. No one really knew anything about it and in true SaGa fashion, there's no tutorial. But once I watched someone do a speedrun and they were explaining how the game works, so I picked it up again and I truly love it! I also love that, in true SaGa fashion, it's unapologetically itself.
Soul Hackers 2 still has a chance if they release it for the switch 2 with QOL updates and more story added. It would probably work better as a portable experience anyway.
As a fan of the entire FFXIII trilogy, I understand your feelings entirely. It's rough when it feels like everyone else in the world is dunking on your taste and preferences. You start to wonder whether there's something wrong with you, or whether it's everyone else.
I played through the whole trilogy last year and it has some of the best music and gameplay out of all the Final Fantasy games. The story is a bit crazy but JRPG's often have those kinds of stories
@@omegaweapon116Agreed. I've been playing FF games since the original, and while there's always things I enjoy and dislike in every game in the series, the XIII trilogy is just on another level in terms of gameplay and presentation.
Something I learned back in the days of NES, is that even terrible games can grow on you given enough time. Back then you basically bought based on the box, there was no return once you opened it, you played it until your next birthday or Christmas. Every game, good or bad, new or old, was $50. At least until 91 or so.
I love Xenobalde Chronicles 2 so much, I even bought Pyra for Smash Bros. Ultimate, the only Smash Bros. DLC I ever bought, didn't even buy Bayonetta for Smash Bros. on Wii U. Else I don't really know what games that I like are hated, maybe anything by Compile Heart or the Gal*Gun games, or Senran Kagura, but with all those games the people who hate them are usually a certain group. Maybe Hard Edge/T.R.A.G. on PS1? Ah, Deus Ex Invisible War on Xbox.
Good stuff Ren! I really liked Soul Hackers 2 and Dusk Diver 2. I'm pretty sure I bought DD2 at your recommendation actually. Xenoblade 2 I haven't gotten around to playing. I feel like a lot of people seem to think anything under 80% on Metacritic is trash, when it really is more like "77 out of 100 people will have some fun with this." To be fair though, with so MANY games coming out most of us can't keep up, and only want to spend our money on things we feel confident about.🤷♀️
I need to address some things you don't completely understand because I'm not sure you understand the trend here. People who complain about story really about gameplay. As long as the story is good, gameplay can be subpar. You also have to know that people who complain about serialization of characters are crazy to the point where playing the game is unbearable to look at and impossible to play. They're also a little mixed with the 1st group too
My problem with Soul Hackers 2 on release was just how slow everything was. They did eventually patch in the ability to run in dungeons and speed up combat, which fixes a huge problem. Kinda surprised you didn't mention that at all in the video
Need more of these. Love the list. There's some I haven't tried. Soul hackers 2 has a really interesting concept on the devil summoner lore, and for that alone it's worth checking out if you're an SMT/persona fan. Also, I just want to say; I've seen the jrpg community time and time again ask for a nice, small linier style jrpg that's relatively short to beat with "no high school kid simulator" and here's one of the best examples staring us all in the face. I really think we all took this game for granted and didn't give it a chance to take root and improve upon its systems. Huge Xenoblade Chronicles fan. Played them all and the DLC. Rex was just misunderstood by the haters. He's a god among men, and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is better than XB-1 in my opinion (XB1 is great, don't get me wrong. But 2 is just genuinely better in every way mechanically aside from your personal preference in story differences that I understand). The combat, and blades are some of the best free gacha combat you can get in gaming history, and it was ahead of its time -- eventually gifting us the almighty Ouroboros system, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 being my favorite in the series I think my biggest example of a game I see hated on that I love is Tales of Legendia. It's my favorite in the series and I love the art/american voice actors/characters/music. It was unique and really hard to stop playing.
ok so i beat xenoblade 2 and liked it, the 2 big problems i had were the tutorials being wrong part of the time and no way to rewatch them, 2 i didnt care for the gatcha system, other then i really liked playing it
I find tank controls to be less fidgety personally. Like in Tomb Raider, you know exactly how many steps you need, even if you are sometimes pressed to speedrun.😅
ikr, when in the last last chapter I am already beat all the unique monster, it is so different with xbc2, in 2's I feel like " i still can pull it off for more" that kind of feeling
"Mayby im just a shallow human being" well your name is hallow lol. I'll die on the hill of persona strikers as i enjoyed my time with that game tenfolds over persona 5r. Poison control is the definition of a hidden gem as i would have not even known about its existence till a psn sale and im grateful.
Hated by who? Xenoblade 2 sold 3 million copies and is easily the most successful game in the series. Twitter activists and woke game "journalists" speak for no one.
I don't get around to commenting nearly as much as I should, but I REALLY appreciate hearing a content creator's personal opinions not simply received Reddit wisdom. Keep it coming and best wishes all around. Been a fan for a while.
glad to see someone else likes soul hackers 2, I love it for the same reason I love Tokyo mirage sessions. they're definitely budget games but they feel like atlus actually trying something new instead of more of the same smt and persona style that they know sells
I agree. So many devs won't try something different at all when they hit on a winning, lucrative formula, and that just results in less innovation throughout gaming.
Oh yea I was trying to think of a game. I forgot that one was a bit hated, but yea I loved it. To me it was sorta like baby's first shin megami tensei. I def enjoyed the artstyle esp the main character and her gf.
I tried to love dusk diver 2 but here are my nitpicks: 1) You run/sprint pressing the L3 stick instead of ZR like the first game or many action games (you cant change controls). 2) enemies are so spongie, any mob could take forever to kill. 3) that first boss tho’ gave me headaches.
The problem is often many people can't understand people have different tastes and tolerances. They also don't understand they can like something that is bad, and the bad thing still be bad. I just hate when people want to make their thing sound so much better than my thing, when I can point out their own thing is just as if not more bad, especially when it's for the EXACT SAME REASONS MINE IS "SO BAD!" Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess for example. I love TP the most, and honestly have little desire to ever play OoT and WW anymore. But why is TP often considered "so bad?" Because Hyrule Field is "so empty." What about the OoT Hyrule Field? And it's 2 or 3 secret pits, a few peahats during day, and stalchildren at night? That's rather empty and bland, too. Also, OoT is old 3D and jank AF. And WW, why is the ocean so beloved by so many? It's very empty and bland to me, to the point it's the primary reason I don't care to go back to that game. WW was also the most "push A to win" game out of the entire series. Also, TP Link vs. WW Link, the debate of expressiveness vs. not. Sure, the toony Link is much more expressive, it's a toony style, and he's like 12 years old, of course he's much more expressive. TP Link isn't nearly as expressive due to the graphics some, but he is older, also has much more deep emotional bonding situations happening around him, often with much darker themes as well. Also, TP has Midna, the best companion by a huge margin. TP is best Zelda, fight me.
I enjoyed Poison Control, but I did fall off and never finished it because it got a little too samey for me. Your tangent about about playing games without story brought me back to the old days. Story? You talking about story? Mario didn't have a real story! Pong?! We had two lines hitting a pixel back and forth and we were grateful!!!! 🤣
Kind of random but Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days is a renowned “bad game” but I can’t dislike it no matter what people say, I think about it consistently after all these years. Also I love this channel, man!
Wait... Since when is the Xeno franchise "Hated"? Sure, there are those who think RPGs and anything that isn't Twitch Mastery gameplay needs to be purged from the Internet, but they are crazy people and should be rightly ignored. Am I just too deep in the fandom to see the angry mob? Ok, I'm putting the video on mute and letting it play in the background for retention time now.
@@lpfan4491 ...actually, I haven't. I was either too busy actually playing the game, or watching guide creators at the time. Too deep into the Fandom it is. 😕
You... do spend most of the game in Dusk Diver 2 in one city. The city of Taipei. You do visit more locations in the city than in the first game (like Dadaocheng that you might also recognise from The Legend of Tianding), but it's still within one city. I agree that it's not much of a criticism though. DD2 is a beatiful and fun to play game, but as a sequel... I can't agree that it's an upgrade in every way. While DD1 was mostly a brawler bordering on Musou-type, with some RPG elements, DD2 is more of an action RPG and, I think, that's where criticisms come from - especially if you're coming straight from DD1, the differences can be jarring. Stat upgrades play now a bigger role, which make for more recognisable progression, but at the same time, make it look like it's a bit less about player skill than it's about big stats. Another thing - attacks. While in the first game you had access to all attacks at a time, in DD2, a lot of those got relagated to active skills, that you can only equip 4 or so (I'll admit it's been a while since I played it, so might be getting details wrong). In DD1 all attacks were situational, while in DD2 nearly all early skills are exchanged for ones with better stats as game progresses. I that's something I took personally - one of my favourite attacks in DD1, was the 1-2 hook combo, that could be repeated few times, going 1-2,1-2,1-2-1-2-1-2.... and in DD2 - not only you can't spam it like in DD1, it's stats are poor and there's little to no reason to even equip it. There are also some smaller changes, that can just rub you the wrong way - like the super meter being a generic bar instead of stylish hair filling. Or that super mode is no longer the event it was in DD1 - no longer you have a track accompanying your Super Saiyan transformation (I effin loved it in DD1, made the final battle even better with lyrics popping in). Sure, it makes sense to have more universal bar, since now it applies to all characters - one can say it's a small trade-off for having more playable characters, and sure, track for transformation isn't much of a deal in-of-itself, but both made my time in first game all the more enjoyable, and leave an empty seat, so to speak, that I don't think anything filled in. Dusk Diver 2 is a very different game to the original, which sparks conflicting opinions on it as a sequel. It''s a very fun game and I hope the series will see another release... that's not a just a DLC for another game.
People who hate on fun games for having waifus/sexy characters are usually miserable creatures who try to find what passes for joy in their sad lives by searching stuff to be offended and upset about. Ruining other people’s enjoyment is to them more important than actually pursuing their own happiness. So f’ their “opinions”. Beautiful art and design is certainly a big part of my enjoyment of games, be it the settings, the characters, or whatever. I’m not fond of the word “waifu”,but I’m all aboard with the concept. Surprised you haven’t covered Bullet Girls Phantasia yet, though perhaps I missed the video? The English translated Asian version is fairly cheap now on Playasia so check it out if you don’t have it. It’s a pretty hilarious and fun game for sure. Keep up the great work, man. You’re one of the very few UA-camrs I give a like to before even watching the video, and I’m yet to be disappointed!
You will always find people, especially online, proclaiming their hate for something, no matter what it is(social media is a place for pointless contrarianism). It's not really something to be taken seriously. It's rarely a true reflection of what the general/majority/consensus feelings are. Like half the games on your list are actually quite popular and well received by most people.
Love to see another Xenoblade 2 fan! I played the first on my Wii when it come out, and i am currently playing the third... but the second one is my favourite, i loved it! I also enjoyed Dusk Diver, while the second is in my backlog, along with DaemonXMachina. Maybe it's finally time for me to play them.
Ren, I absolutely love your videos and pick up most of the intriguing games on Steam. I have a question and somewhat of a favor to ask you. Can you suggest or do a video of a handful of MUST HAVE GAMES for those of us who are new to JRPG's on the Switch? I'm not a fan of turn based battles so that has held me back from trying some of your games. There are so many damn games on the Switch, I don't know what to start with. Thanks man.... I appreciate your work!
Awe thanks so much! So hyped you're enjoying the videos! And I think that's a fantastic idea for a video. I'll have to put that on my list of video ideas. Definitely let me know if you have any other list ideas requests. I'm so hyped for you to discover the insane quality and vast JRPG list on switch!
Xbc2 and golden country not only have the best story but also the best gaming mechanics in the series. If a new Xeno game comes out, I would want more inspiration to be drawn from 2 than any other.
I love all the xenoblade games. My favorite is probably Xenoblade Chronicles X (got totally lost in that world for 200+ hours) but since the cowards at nintendo won't port it off the WiiU, I'd say XBC2 is next lol. The psuedo gacha mechanic sucked but it allowed for a huge supporting cast, many with their own side stories. The characters in general were just fun. Pyra and Mythra were great. Rex was a fairly stereotypical shonen protagonist and i enjoyed all the rest of the supporting cast. The story also goes HARD once you get about halfway in. I enjoyed XBC3, but it felt like a step back. More bland environments, a less likable cast, a less flashy and somehow more messy battle system and just a geneal bleak tone. Good RPG. Not as good as its predecessor. Side note: for a long time, Soul Hackers 2 was on GamePass. It, sadly, has been taken off now, but while it was there i tried it out. I didnt finish it but i could definitely appreciate the art, characters, etc even if the level design was a bit dull.
I really like Parasite Eve 3rd Birthday. But people just complain about "sexualization" and "its different from the originals". And i bet those people never even played that game or the originals, and were just angry about the cover art.
@@fikaieldjou dude, you are all over the comment section. We get it, you have a hate boner for xc2. Now quit being a loser and let people enjoy their games.
@@nintendo1889x that's part of what makes it great though. The bad voice direction(what you put on the acting) is what makes it stand out, memeable, fun and memorable
A game i like that's also one of the most hated games for no good reason is Final Fantasy 13. For some reason it was really popular to create a massive hate campaign against it before it even released which created a brain washing effect that made people believe FF13 was the worst game of all time without even playing 1 second to try it out. Not until recently in the past couple years people started to try it out and are totally blown away just how good of a game it is compared to what they were told.
Wait. Strikers was hated? Bro.. I played all SMT and Persona games, and I enjoyed Strikers. The adrenaline of fighting bosses in high speed is just amazing. Not to mention, it was the game where I learned to appreciate Haru and genuinely liked her.
Gotta say I agree with your assessment of Soul Hackers 2. It’s a very fun and good game. It’s no Persona, but it was never supposed to be. You’re correct that the biggest issue was the pricing and DLC. The thing that kills me about it is that if all of the issues around this game boil down to the fact that it’s too expensive… then why don’t people just get it on sale? Why not just pass on the DLC? It’s a damn shame because I had a heap of fun playing that game.
All of this game you mention is now back on my radar. I have a feeling games you mention here will probably go up in value because of the disparity between it's real and perceived value. This might as well be titled criminally underrated games.
Godzilla for PS4. I bought Overwatch due to the recommendations and hype, but was bummed that there wasn't a solo campaign. I returned it and ended up with a few titles, with Godzilla being one of them. The only flaw is the saving system (or lack thereof), but it's my favorite game to just chill and destroy. Love what you love, and if other people go out of their way to tell you otherwise: good! More for you.
I absolutely loved Xenoblade Chronicles 2. The story was amazing, they gave all the Rare blades their own quests, where we learn more about them. We learn about the Antagonists reasons for doing what they did. The character designs were incredible too, and I liked the open world play style. I'll admit I can see why some people disliked it, since some quests don't tell you how or where to get certain items. But there's guides for a reason.
It’s funny, I was gonna say Xenoblade chronicles 2 and then you brought it up. It’s literally my favorite Xenoblade game along with Torna the Golden country.
I love love Metroid Other M. I’ve never been a big story guy so I could care less about the problems people have with the story. It’s fast and fluid, the ship is fun to explore, and Samus has a lot of cool moves. That’s all I need in a video game.
23:04 "A snowball would have a better chance in the 7th circle of hell of surviving..." You know, in the Divine Comedy the 7th circle of Hell, Cocytus,, is described as entirely frozen over, binge the prison of Satan, so I think a is snowball would have pretty good chance at surviving there
Yeah, this is a subject I'm all too familiar with. There are plenty of games I like that are seemingly despised everywhere else. Heck, I can think of a number of channels who seemingly go out of their way just to hate on not just some games, but entire franchises and even developers at that. Just one of the unfortunately natures of being into the more niche stuff I guess, they are relatively easier and safer targets to harass. Anyway, I've actually played and enjoyed some of the games listed on here myself. Namely "Poison Control" and "Dusk Diver 2", though "Hero Must Die Again" is on my wishlist.
xenobabe chronicles 2 is my most fav game ever made. and it always will be... played it well over 1000 hours by now and i'll play it thousands more until the day i kick the bucket.
My problem with Deamon X Machina is the strong red tint of the game, it's bordering painful. I also started on Xenoblade X then Xenoblade 1 but I really liked Xenoblade 2.
8:59 to be fair, it was hard for me to get into even in the tutorial. I am with you in regards to story, if the story was just “you are a mercenary, you do mercenary things as you build up your mech’s power” I’m cool with it. But as it stands with gameplay, I can’t seem to get a good grasp of it.
my experience with daemon x machina is getting to the final boss of the campaign and not being able to win because you don't have enough ammo to deplete his hp lmfao
Keep sticking to your guns man. I love Pyra so much lol and xeno2 is just pure fun its what gaming is about. Ive had dusk diver 2 sitting on the shelf for a while now and haven't touched it yet sadly
@@HallowedBeThyGame what point are you making in your fast food video ? people dont like games you like ? what an insightful point at the end of the day the reality is the game is shit wether you like it or not, so I guess like it all you want i'm contempt with being right
@@fikaieldjou Xeno2 brought TONS of new fans to the franchise. We all have our opinion but you dont need to be a jerk about it. Xeno2 is kino. go back to league or fortnight dude.
I was afraid of what I might find from here, considering the thumbnail was Praxis. And yeah my reaction was WTF!? Okay, to be fair when Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was first revealed, I hated the art style that they went with at first, but it grew on me. As for the ”waifu” aspect, I won’t lie, Pyra’s assets were distracting for the first few cutscenes, but the novelty wore off quickly enough.
yeah P5 Strikers rocks. my only issue, and tbf it's a big one, is the lack of Akechi. I also love Xenoblade 2 and genuinely think it's one of the better games ever made. being honest a lot of these feel more like deep cuts than actually hated games lol
It took place after the original p5 where Akechi was assumed dead. I suppose you can write your own canon to why he's not there if you only played royal.
yeah, the people who complained about xenoblade 2 were kind of crazy, i remember seeing one post on a forum where a guy was complaining about pyra not just having big boobs, but also having the cooking skill, basically complaining that she as a female is attractive and can cook like none of that should be allowed lmao
Musou games have improved so much, P5S got ruled out as one but after Dragon Quest heroes 1 and 2, those were really good news and it delivered. I wish the Xenoblade Chronicles games were available on PC, I only played the first one on the Wii but I never bought another nintendo console ever again and still have no plans.
Final Fantasy VIII, the XIII trilogy and Star Ocean: The Last Hope are games a lot of people aren't too fond of, but they're near and dear to my heart ❤
Finally someone sees how I feel about Persona 5 Strikers. I do wish the story was a little better as it felt like they copied Persona 5's vanilla story by making villains that were very similar.
I don't think this was a "hated" game but definitely a forgotten one and a not very well designed game that I absolutely love is Chaos Legion for PS2. Effectively a DMC 1 clone by capcom where you play as a sword wielding summoner. The performance is not the greatest, the story is cheesy as hell, and while there are deep/multiple mechanics it's also pretty simple and repetitive. I swear that if you can gell with the gameplay then you are going to end up feeling either moved by the story, or you are going to laugh at it or maybe even a little bit of both. it can also feel a bit grindy at times much like old DMC
I'm a huge fan of the Neptunia series and every time I hear someone rip into them I think, 'you just don't get it!' Still. I respect everyone's wrong opinions.
@@user-ef7gn4jy6v I mean, there is always more than that... it just means you like the characters design and personality basically. Point any JRPG that you've played and I it will probably have a husbando/waifu, at least I think so 🤔
I dont mind waifu games in fact ive enjoyed more than one, like the senran kagura series, but I do prefer my non waifu focused games to not lean too heavily into waifu character styles as I can find it a bit distracting. Just imo though edit. I hadn't got to the xb2 portion yet but its exactly what I was thinking of haha. But I do like that game and I like Pyramid as a character.
Adding Hero Must Die Again to my wishlist that sounds fantastic. I find most people don't actually hate time mechanics they just think they do so it intimidates them from trying games that have them like Dead Rising and Pathfinder: Kingmaker both games that most who actually try like and the few that don't like them almost always cite something other than the time management as their complaint just as an example.
I liked playing Poison Control myself a year or two ago. I just think one thing that killed some of my enjoyment that some of the later levels had some ingame lag and for some reason I had a few times where my game kinda crash during the final level a few times. (forgot if it did a level earlier or not) Also some weapons just weren't as useful as others and I wished it had a bit more enemy variety but still I did have fun in my playthrough, however. It just needed some more polishing to be more of a classic.
I will hear NO blasphemy against Dusk Diver or Dusk Diver 2! I’ll admit, some of these I haven’t had the pleasure of playing but I will not allow any slander towards Dusk Diver!!!! Stellar video my brother! You tell ‘em!!!
Dynasty Warriors/Musou is awesome, it's just pure fun and not as braindead as people think. It's even weird seeing it getting hate from JRPGs fans, since there's always so much customization, setups and optimization to it. Some of the best of the series were the crossovers/licensed titles, like Gundam 2, Hyrule Warriors, Fire Emblem Three Hopes (this one was special!).
Strange, I love Xenoblade 2. Every chapter added a new battle mechanic and it ended up in this really complex system at the end. Xenoblade 3 let me switch classes every 5 minutes. All my characters had all classes and it never picjed up until I dropped it.
Got Soul Hackers 2 half off during an anime game sale at GameStop. Not the best I've ever played but I was fine with that given I'd only spent $30. I think what I really didn't love was the dungeons. I need to give it more time when I have a chance because I liked the customization.
P5 Strikers rocks, and I don’t care what anyone says, especially the soundtrack. Speaking of, are you a “Daredevil” or “Counter Strike” guy? I go back and forth between them both as my favorites, but both songs are jams.
Somehow many of my favorite games end up being ones everyone else seems to dislike. Two of my favorite games of all time are: - Dark Souls 2 - Tokyo Mirage Sessions Your list was also full of great games. I haven’t played all of them, but I can vouch for Poison Control, Daemon x Machina, XC2, and Soul Hackers 2. All fantastic games!
@@DangerCrow ds2 def got a hate following. I enjoyed my initial playthrough. I also beat the dlc with the pyramid type place. I also enjoyed the story prob more than any From game since (until ER.) That said, when I try replays I tend to hit places where I just stop having fun and give up. Also don't know what is considered the best experience anymore. For years I saw the scholar version, but now I see more love for the original release. I honestly didn't enjoy the scholar version. It felt like the game was plugged into a randomizer or something.
Never played the first two but they look interesting. The rest are all good games. Surprised to find out they are “hated.” Especially Strikers. The only criticism I’ve heard is about the lack of Royal content.
I bought Poison Control on release day, I liked it. It's not fantastic but it was a fun game and it filled a small part of the gigantic hole of Mega Man Legends 3's cancelation. I thought Red Ash would help but it's "existence" just makes the hole bigger.
no it doesnt its still shit, in fact the more you pay attention to it the worst it gets, you simply have to have the necessary critical thinking skills to see how shit it is
@@fikaieldjou This is just low hanging bait honestly so I won't even respond to it. Nice try tho. I will however give you a nice block! Try a bit harder next time.
What's funny is that people complained that "you can win battles by just auto attacking" and that the combat isn't interesting until much later, but those same people would complain if the game told you everything in a much shorter timespan. You just can't win lol
Xenoblade chronicles 2 is my favorite Xenoblades. I love it from the blades to the super bosses, definitely an amazing game and it’s my favorite RPG on the Switch. I thought it was amazing that all the blades had a different artist create them (almost all the blades I believe some had the same artist)
The Xenoblade Chronicles 2 discourse has calmed down but it's still pretty awful at times. And as someone who does like the game there are still issues that are much more of a problem then attractive ladies. The tutorials that you can only see once, the way the field skills are implemented, the gacha system, its pacing at times. But instead it's just "you only like this game because there's some big old honker around every corner." As someone who hates it's style of gameplay it is easily one of my favorite games on the switch because of its story and its characters and it's music. Oh my God it's music I love it so much. It was also the first Xenoblade game I played, I think it's better than 1 DE and 3 and it's no contest. And it's DLC torna is even better.
Xenoblade 2 isnt really hated. It has a portion of people that absolutely despise it. But its still a well recieved game overall. I even think its the best game of the trilogy.
maybe not as hated but seeing as you include music from it in the editing I think Legend of Heroes: Cold Steel could count. It is one of the most popular game of the series but also the one that typically gets the most blame for "ruining the series" but it certainly is still a great game, in some aspects worse, in some aspects better. Though I will never exuse the existence of Musse in the later games. I could do without her, the rest of those games is fine.
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I legit just got the dusk divers 2 launch edition that comes in a special box. Haven’t opened it yet, but super excited to play it on the PlayStation portal
You and I like the same games! I loved “Daemon x Machina”, and while it wasn’t up to Atlus’ usual work, “Soul Hackers 2” was good! Loved the characters & character design. The Sabbath system wasn’t my favorite, but still enjoyable. (I also got into “Vampire Hunter D” b/c of Sci-Fi channel showing it in the 90’s!. Both films are incredible!). Haven’t played “Dusk Divers 2” but I’ll give it a chance now!
Same @@michaelmurray2033
Hallowed If you like mech stuff you should look at getting gundam breaker 4 it comes out at the end of this month and is gonna be amazing. Also last of us 2 doesn’t have a story it has idiotic drivel 😆
Well shoot the next time I come across Dusk Divers 2 I just might have to give it a shot as it seems like it could be a rater fun action style game that is quite different form the norm. Along with giving Persona 5 Strikers a shot even though I don't think I can play as Futaba which is something I always like a bought these games. As it would give everyone a little more time to shine. Like how Rise was given a character slot in p4arena ultamax.
I do not understand people who get upset over someone liking a game. There are plenty of games that I don’t like, but I’m glad that there are people who do.
You should tell that to the Xenoblade 2 fanbase, if anyone says “I don’t like Xenoblade 2” they start going haywire.
because if you like a shit game the future games are going to be shit, most people like xenoablde 2 because they're not smart and so Xenoblade 3 and the DLC were tainted by the same flaws as 2, you are ruining my favourite franchise by being stupid I have no symphathy for you
@@SJMcK i know the feeling. I said I liked Legend of Korra on an Airbender video yesterday and ppl started ree'ing out. Let ppl like what they like, sheesh. Arguing w ppl will just make them more firm, esp if you do it in a nasty way.
@@Xenowolf8 Ironic you say that when there's a guy going through the whole comment section showing his hate boner for xc2 and trashtalking anyone who likes it, including the owner of the channel.
Why don't you get upset about people making 30 minute videos whining about other people not liking videogames? It is literally the same argument.
I stopped paying attention to game "journalists" a long time ago. I'll bet these are all solid.
Game journalists are laughable
Absolutely
Every IGN review is a total clown fiesta so yeah.
I didnt realize people hated P5 Strikers. I loved that game. It acted as a sequel and was much more of a Persona game rather than I Dynasty Warriors game (I love both series btw). The soundtrack was amazing, especially the remix of Last Surprise so freaking good!!
Oh man does that song slap!!!
Un peu trop esthetisant et mis en scène ,a mon goût ..
I have it,it's a good game. The people that don't like it, could just go play the other persona games.
It's not. It's pretty highly rated, really. There will always be people that don't like something though.
I'm surprised too. The game is good. It's a Warriors game that did something DIFFERENT. People kept saying that Warriors games are too repetitive so when they branch out people hate that?! The hell?!
OH MY GOD, THANK YOU! Twitter's hatred over XBC 2 is just annoying! All they do is scream how much it's a "sin" yet offer no meaningful criticism. They just call it bad just because it has big boobs and that's it!
And Heaven forbid if you bring up the optional Bunny Girl.
yeah, whenever someone says its bad because big boobs or a character is sexualized because big boobs, my response is always the same " i dare you to go out into the street and say that to a real girl tell them they are bad, and sexualized simply because they went through puberty and have big boobs" lmao
The fact they never talk about the actual issues, like bad tutorials, map compass or field skills just shows that they never even played the game to give a valid opinion.
XBC2 is a great game , story and gameplay, a little complicated if you don't learn how to play but good once you know how to use the mechanics , the boobs is a plus for those that like it
@@woteveruk1 considering the current landscape of society, I'm pretty sure there's already someone going around doing this lol.
My apathy of XC2 is more mechanics. I didn't like that the game Auto-saved every time you attuned with a gem. The lesser Blades really are useless as all of their abilities are just lessor of the rare blades and you can't use them to power up others. The blades are locked to each character unless you use an insanely rare item to transfer them. (One character can use all late in the game) The fact you could not attack while moving pissed me off because of the enemies that flee and get reinforcements. I beat it but it's definitely my least favorite of the Xenoblade games...
Xenoblade 2 is my favorite Xenoblade. The element-based combat was so fun once you learned how to properly Launch and Smash and pull off millions of damage! Couple that with the music, the locations and the characters and mwah! Loved it! 💕
Can't say the same for XC3. The game felt so humorless. The military aesthetic felt so stoic and cold. The Smash and Launch mechanics didn't feel nearly as satisfying to pull off as they did in XC2, and 3's final boss just draaaaaaagggggggeeeeeeddddd....
I'll take XC2 any day.
Xc2 is easily my favorite
@@HallowedBeThyGame to be expected from a fast food channel
@@fikaieldjou Relax, it's about "gaming", not supreme court decisions or medical and financial advice. I imagine you are someone who goes to Comic Con wearing blue jeans and a black T-shirt while ridiculing others "unsophisticated" and "trashy" fashion.
2 is my second favorite behind X, but among the numbered games it's easily my favorite. 3 was infuriating with the constant tutorials that kept popping up even 5 hours in, forcing these long winded menu navigation prompts like we're too dumb to understand the concept. I couldn't get into it because every time I thought the game would let me actually play it for more than a few minutes it had to grind things to a halt just to tell me how to hit the party button, and explain the concept of a party, and force me to change the party members, then change them back, then ask if I wanted to hear the tutorial again.
@@davidk.8686 ok, i feel attacked there, think im catching some stray shots as i usually wear black t shirts and blue jeans, mostly because i dont really care about fashion and just wear what i feel comfortable in, lmao
Glad to see Hero must Die on this list. It's such a hidden gem. As for Soul Hackers 2, another big issue was the lack of a Switch version, which made no sense for a dungeon crawler. A late port with all the DLC included would've improved it's reception.
I'm just finishing up Persona 4 and can't wait to start SH2 because I've got got this feeling I may like it better.
The people who hate xenoblade 2 for the girls are people who just hate anime.
Agreed
After this video now I want to play it more. But I still want to play the first one too.
@@shoked99both XC and XC2 are top tier gems but you can seriously play them in any order (1 and 2) because they are almost virtually focused on their own world
I don't think so, I think it's because of the change in style from xeno chronicles to 2, if it were a direct sequel to x or xenosaga then I think they fit quite well. Or well that's what it seemed to me.
@@DaddyGamerDiariesnot really,you can play those two how you think is better and still works but you definitely need to play this two before XBC3
I like a lot of the Idea Factory and Neptunia games but they always get so much crap lol
I agree, I hate they get hated way too much. Love them
I have several and remember playing the original back on PS3. Pretty cheesy yet funny, even wrote a guide for the Neptunia vs Senran Kagura
I never tried any of the Nep games for a long time, just writing them off as pure fan service.
Then, on a lark (and a deep sale) I grabbed Megadimension Neptunia VII and was surprised that, under the Indeed vast amounts of fan service, there was a pretty damn solid rpg there lol
I'm proud to say I own every Neptunia game physically. I love the series overall.
As games they are a bit lacking in a lot of areas, but I still enjoy them. Something can be below average and still be enjoyable.
Nobody else likes Game Freak's Little Town Hero and it BLOWS MY MIND. It is such an insanely fun game.
Because it is garbage like gamefreak themselves :)
@@matthewbraith0411facts😂
Game freak makes games other than pokemon?
@@corbinkendall6330
They made a goated game just to not release it in the West (Pulseman), but at the very least he’s been immortalized in Rotom, who’s remained a staple in Pokémon.
Xenoblade 2 is my favorite of the series. It just hit everything I want from a JRPG and really got me into the series. I bounced off of 1 when it released on the Wii because the quests just burnt me out. So 2 did a really good job of pulling me in and properly enjoying the series.
I have a couple of games on the list that are still on the backlog like Soul Hackers 2 that I have to find time to try out before I have an opinion.
Xeno 2 is also my favorite by far! I'd love to hear what ya think of Soul Hackers 2 if ya get to it.
Xenoblade 2? Hated? I didn't know that; the game was a massive success. I think the haters are just really vocal while the people who actually like it have moved on. Hating on games intended to appeal to the male-audience is pretty popular in the mass media nowadays.
Fuck the Act man! 😂
its just a bad game lmao thats why 3 was 90% of the old games combat and exploration lol
@@fikaieldjou I haven't played 3 yet. That's disappointing to hear.
@@suicunesolsan disappointing to hear 3 is better ?
@@fikaieldjou I liked 2's combat better.
I’m loving the frequent uploads lately! And I also like seeing games mentioned in multiple episodes. It’s basically a reminder for me to get a specific game I might be interested in.
Unlimited SaGa is one for me. I totally understand why western players didn't vibe with it. No one really knew anything about it and in true SaGa fashion, there's no tutorial. But once I watched someone do a speedrun and they were explaining how the game works, so I picked it up again and I truly love it! I also love that, in true SaGa fashion, it's unapologetically itself.
I gotta check this out, thanks for recommending it! Never dove into the series before
Xenoblade 2 holds a special place in my heart but at the same time just like all 3 games
Me too!
dont put 2 in the same level as either 1 or 3, its nowhere near close
@@fikaieldjou xenoblade 1 is my fav one but 2 had so many enjoyable moments i couldnt forget xeno 3 im in progress of beating it so far its fun
don't forget X!
@@riesonomura me!
Soul Hackers 2 still has a chance if they release it for the switch 2 with QOL updates and more story added. It would probably work better as a portable experience anyway.
As a fan of the entire FFXIII trilogy, I understand your feelings entirely. It's rough when it feels like everyone else in the world is dunking on your taste and preferences. You start to wonder whether there's something wrong with you, or whether it's everyone else.
I played through the whole trilogy last year and it has some of the best music and gameplay out of all the Final Fantasy games. The story is a bit crazy but JRPG's often have those kinds of stories
@@omegaweapon116Agreed. I've been playing FF games since the original, and while there's always things I enjoy and dislike in every game in the series, the XIII trilogy is just on another level in terms of gameplay and presentation.
Something I learned back in the days of NES, is that even terrible games can grow on you given enough time. Back then you basically bought based on the box, there was no return once you opened it, you played it until your next birthday or Christmas. Every game, good or bad, new or old, was $50. At least until 91 or so.
I love Xenobalde Chronicles 2 so much, I even bought Pyra for Smash Bros. Ultimate, the only Smash Bros. DLC I ever bought, didn't even buy Bayonetta for Smash Bros. on Wii U.
Else I don't really know what games that I like are hated, maybe anything by Compile Heart or the Gal*Gun games, or Senran Kagura, but with all those games the people who hate them are usually a certain group. Maybe Hard Edge/T.R.A.G. on PS1? Ah, Deus Ex Invisible War on Xbox.
Man compile heart hate is wild! I love those game s
Good stuff Ren!
I really liked Soul Hackers 2 and Dusk Diver 2. I'm pretty sure I bought DD2 at your recommendation actually. Xenoblade 2 I haven't gotten around to playing.
I feel like a lot of people seem to think anything under 80% on Metacritic is trash, when it really is more like "77 out of 100 people will have some fun with this." To be fair though, with so MANY games coming out most of us can't keep up, and only want to spend our money on things we feel confident about.🤷♀️
Thanks so much! Yeah the metacritic worship is bonkers to me. It's locking people from genuinely incredible expereinces!
I need to address some things you don't completely understand because I'm not sure you understand the trend here. People who complain about story really about gameplay. As long as the story is good, gameplay can be subpar. You also have to know that people who complain about serialization of characters are crazy to the point where playing the game is unbearable to look at and impossible to play. They're also a little mixed with the 1st group too
My problem with Soul Hackers 2 on release was just how slow everything was. They did eventually patch in the ability to run in dungeons and speed up combat, which fixes a huge problem. Kinda surprised you didn't mention that at all in the video
Need more of these. Love the list. There's some I haven't tried. Soul hackers 2 has a really interesting concept on the devil summoner lore, and for that alone it's worth checking out if you're an SMT/persona fan. Also, I just want to say; I've seen the jrpg community time and time again ask for a nice, small linier style jrpg that's relatively short to beat with "no high school kid simulator" and here's one of the best examples staring us all in the face. I really think we all took this game for granted and didn't give it a chance to take root and improve upon its systems. Huge Xenoblade Chronicles fan. Played them all and the DLC. Rex was just misunderstood by the haters. He's a god among men, and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is better than XB-1 in my opinion (XB1 is great, don't get me wrong. But 2 is just genuinely better in every way mechanically aside from your personal preference in story differences that I understand). The combat, and blades are some of the best free gacha combat you can get in gaming history, and it was ahead of its time -- eventually gifting us the almighty Ouroboros system, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 being my favorite in the series
I think my biggest example of a game I see hated on that I love is Tales of Legendia. It's my favorite in the series and I love the art/american voice actors/characters/music. It was unique and really hard to stop playing.
ok so i beat xenoblade 2 and liked it, the 2 big problems i had were the tutorials being wrong part of the time and no way to rewatch them, 2 i didnt care for the gatcha system, other then i really liked playing it
I like that the gacha system has a canonical reason for existing
I find tank controls to be less fidgety personally. Like in Tomb Raider, you know exactly how many steps you need, even if you are sometimes pressed to speedrun.😅
Xenoblade 2 is my favorite switch game.. 3 was good as well but I didn't enjoy it as much
3 was too good for you I guess
@@fikaieldjou You are miserable
ikr, when in the last last chapter I am already beat all the unique monster, it is so different with xbc2, in 2's I feel like " i still can pull it off for more" that kind of feeling
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is the most replayable Xeno game to me. The core crystals always make each play through a new experience
"Mayby im just a shallow human being" well your name is hallow lol. I'll die on the hill of persona strikers as i enjoyed my time with that game tenfolds over persona 5r. Poison control is the definition of a hidden gem as i would have not even known about its existence till a psn sale and im grateful.
Hated by who? Xenoblade 2 sold 3 million copies and is easily the most successful game in the series. Twitter activists and woke game "journalists" speak for no one.
sold the most therefore not hated ? are you ok ?
I don't get around to commenting nearly as much as I should, but I REALLY appreciate hearing a content creator's personal opinions not simply received Reddit wisdom. Keep it coming and best wishes all around. Been a fan for a while.
Wow thanks so much! Made my day!
not reddit wisdom yet reddit video lmao
glad to see someone else likes soul hackers 2, I love it for the same reason I love Tokyo mirage sessions. they're definitely budget games but they feel like atlus actually trying something new instead of more of the same smt and persona style that they know sells
I agree. So many devs won't try something different at all when they hit on a winning, lucrative formula, and that just results in less innovation throughout gaming.
@@Djw8991 i love it. I also liked its stripped down design. Not every single game needs to be a bloated triple A title. Channels like this prove that!
Soul Hackers 2 is so good man. They did a great job with voiced protag in it
Ringo and her VA are so freaking cool!
That's the exact opposite I've heard anyone say
If it weren’t for it not coming to the switch I would have played it.
However, if it does come out on switch I’ll be snatching it up.
Oh yea I was trying to think of a game. I forgot that one was a bit hated, but yea I loved it. To me it was sorta like baby's first shin megami tensei. I def enjoyed the artstyle esp the main character and her gf.
SH2 definitely needs to have a definitive version
I tried to love dusk diver 2 but here are my nitpicks:
1) You run/sprint pressing the L3 stick instead of ZR like the first game or many action games (you cant change controls).
2) enemies are so spongie, any mob could take forever to kill.
3) that first boss tho’ gave me headaches.
The problem is often many people can't understand people have different tastes and tolerances. They also don't understand they can like something that is bad, and the bad thing still be bad. I just hate when people want to make their thing sound so much better than my thing, when I can point out their own thing is just as if not more bad, especially when it's for the EXACT SAME REASONS MINE IS "SO BAD!" Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess for example. I love TP the most, and honestly have little desire to ever play OoT and WW anymore. But why is TP often considered "so bad?" Because Hyrule Field is "so empty." What about the OoT Hyrule Field? And it's 2 or 3 secret pits, a few peahats during day, and stalchildren at night? That's rather empty and bland, too. Also, OoT is old 3D and jank AF. And WW, why is the ocean so beloved by so many? It's very empty and bland to me, to the point it's the primary reason I don't care to go back to that game. WW was also the most "push A to win" game out of the entire series.
Also, TP Link vs. WW Link, the debate of expressiveness vs. not. Sure, the toony Link is much more expressive, it's a toony style, and he's like 12 years old, of course he's much more expressive. TP Link isn't nearly as expressive due to the graphics some, but he is older, also has much more deep emotional bonding situations happening around him, often with much darker themes as well.
Also, TP has Midna, the best companion by a huge margin. TP is best Zelda, fight me.
I enjoyed Poison Control, but I did fall off and never finished it because it got a little too samey for me. Your tangent about about playing games without story brought me back to the old days. Story? You talking about story? Mario didn't have a real story! Pong?! We had two lines hitting a pixel back and forth and we were grateful!!!! 🤣
Haha so true! Extremely well said man
Great video. Haters are going to hate. That's all they know how to do.
Thanks and so true!
Kind of random but Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days is a renowned “bad game” but I can’t dislike it no matter what people say, I think about it consistently after all these years. Also I love this channel, man!
Love your answer! Stoked you're enjoying the channel!
Does the game have sexy/lewd waifus? Shut up and take my money. Great character design should _always_ be rewarded.
Wait... Since when is the Xeno franchise "Hated"? Sure, there are those who think RPGs and anything that isn't Twitch Mastery gameplay needs to be purged from the Internet, but they are crazy people and should be rightly ignored. Am I just too deep in the fandom to see the angry mob?
Ok, I'm putting the video on mute and letting it play in the background for retention time now.
Have you seen the general feedback to Xenosaga 2? Xenoblade 2 is not the first time a Xeno game did not receive much positive feedback.
@@lpfan4491 ...actually, I haven't. I was either too busy actually playing the game, or watching guide creators at the time. Too deep into the Fandom it is. 😕
xc3 may be the best in terms of gameplay, but xc2 I love the most. It simply heals an aching soul
too bad the story is stupid and the characters are shit and the gameplay is boring lmao
@@fikaieldjou So is your reply.
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Also, only in terms of overworld progression imo. Not in terms of battle system.
@@fikaieldjou Ok, we know you hate the game and you reply on whoever said love xbc2 game, looks like you need touch some grass😂
You... do spend most of the game in Dusk Diver 2 in one city. The city of Taipei. You do visit more locations in the city than in the first game (like Dadaocheng that you might also recognise from The Legend of Tianding), but it's still within one city. I agree that it's not much of a criticism though.
DD2 is a beatiful and fun to play game, but as a sequel... I can't agree that it's an upgrade in every way. While DD1 was mostly a brawler bordering on Musou-type, with some RPG elements, DD2 is more of an action RPG and, I think, that's where criticisms come from - especially if you're coming straight from DD1, the differences can be jarring.
Stat upgrades play now a bigger role, which make for more recognisable progression, but at the same time, make it look like it's a bit less about player skill than it's about big stats.
Another thing - attacks. While in the first game you had access to all attacks at a time, in DD2, a lot of those got relagated to active skills, that you can only equip 4 or so (I'll admit it's been a while since I played it, so might be getting details wrong). In DD1 all attacks were situational, while in DD2 nearly all early skills are exchanged for ones with better stats as game progresses.
I that's something I took personally - one of my favourite attacks in DD1, was the 1-2 hook combo, that could be repeated few times, going 1-2,1-2,1-2-1-2-1-2.... and in DD2 - not only you can't spam it like in DD1, it's stats are poor and there's little to no reason to even equip it.
There are also some smaller changes, that can just rub you the wrong way - like the super meter being a generic bar instead of stylish hair filling.
Or that super mode is no longer the event it was in DD1 - no longer you have a track accompanying your Super Saiyan transformation (I effin loved it in DD1, made the final battle even better with lyrics popping in).
Sure, it makes sense to have more universal bar, since now it applies to all characters - one can say it's a small trade-off for having more playable characters,
and sure, track for transformation isn't much of a deal in-of-itself, but both made my time in first game all the more enjoyable, and leave an empty seat, so to speak, that I don't think anything filled in.
Dusk Diver 2 is a very different game to the original, which sparks conflicting opinions on it as a sequel.
It''s a very fun game and I hope the series will see another release... that's not a just a DLC for another game.
People who hate on fun games for having waifus/sexy characters are usually miserable creatures who try to find what passes for joy in their sad lives by searching stuff to be offended and upset about. Ruining other people’s enjoyment is to them more important than actually pursuing their own happiness. So f’ their “opinions”. Beautiful art and design is certainly a big part of my enjoyment of games, be it the settings, the characters, or whatever. I’m not fond of the word “waifu”,but I’m all aboard with the concept.
Surprised you haven’t covered Bullet Girls Phantasia yet, though perhaps I missed the video? The English translated Asian version is fairly cheap now on Playasia so check it out if you don’t have it. It’s a pretty hilarious and fun game for sure. Keep up the great work, man. You’re one of the very few UA-camrs I give a like to before even watching the video, and I’m yet to be disappointed!
You will always find people, especially online, proclaiming their hate for something, no matter what it is(social media is a place for pointless contrarianism). It's not really something to be taken seriously. It's rarely a true reflection of what the general/majority/consensus feelings are. Like half the games on your list are actually quite popular and well received by most people.
Love to see another Xenoblade 2 fan! I played the first on my Wii when it come out, and i am currently playing the third... but the second one is my favourite, i loved it!
I also enjoyed Dusk Diver, while the second is in my backlog, along with DaemonXMachina.
Maybe it's finally time for me to play them.
Xenoblade 2 is my favorite too! Hope ya have a blast with Dusk Diver 2!
Ren, I absolutely love your videos and pick up most of the intriguing games on Steam. I have a question and somewhat of a favor to ask you. Can you suggest or do a video of a handful of MUST HAVE GAMES for those of us who are new to JRPG's on the Switch? I'm not a fan of turn based battles so that has held me back from trying some of your games. There are so many damn games on the Switch, I don't know what to start with. Thanks man.... I appreciate your work!
Awe thanks so much! So hyped you're enjoying the videos! And I think that's a fantastic idea for a video. I'll have to put that on my list of video ideas. Definitely let me know if you have any other list ideas requests. I'm so hyped for you to discover the insane quality and vast JRPG list on switch!
Xbc2 and golden country not only have the best story but also the best gaming mechanics in the series. If a new Xeno game comes out, I would want more inspiration to be drawn from 2 than any other.
I love all the xenoblade games. My favorite is probably Xenoblade Chronicles X (got totally lost in that world for 200+ hours) but since the cowards at nintendo won't port it off the WiiU, I'd say XBC2 is next lol.
The psuedo gacha mechanic sucked but it allowed for a huge supporting cast, many with their own side stories.
The characters in general were just fun. Pyra and Mythra were great. Rex was a fairly stereotypical shonen protagonist and i enjoyed all the rest of the supporting cast.
The story also goes HARD once you get about halfway in.
I enjoyed XBC3, but it felt like a step back. More bland environments, a less likable cast, a less flashy and somehow more messy battle system and just a geneal bleak tone. Good RPG. Not as good as its predecessor.
Side note: for a long time, Soul Hackers 2 was on GamePass. It, sadly, has been taken off now, but while it was there i tried it out. I didnt finish it but i could definitely appreciate the art, characters, etc even if the level design was a bit dull.
I really like Parasite Eve 3rd Birthday. But people just complain about "sexualization" and "its different from the originals". And i bet those people never even played that game or the originals, and were just angry about the cover art.
I love xenoblade chronicles 2, it's my favorite from the trilogy.
those games are wasted on you if that's your takeaway
@@fikaieldjou your comment makes no sense, XC2 was easily the most fun to play and my 1,4k hours in it speaks for itself.
@@fikaieldjou dude, you are all over the comment section. We get it, you have a hate boner for xc2. Now quit being a loser and let people enjoy their games.
Too bad the English dub was awful, esp. Rex, his "Screaming" was unbearable lol
@@nintendo1889x that's part of what makes it great though. The bad voice direction(what you put on the acting) is what makes it stand out, memeable, fun and memorable
A game i like that's also one of the most hated games for no good reason is Final Fantasy 13. For some reason it was really popular to create a massive hate campaign against it before it even released which created a brain washing effect that made people believe FF13 was the worst game of all time without even playing 1 second to try it out. Not until recently in the past couple years people started to try it out and are totally blown away just how good of a game it is compared to what they were told.
Wait. Strikers was hated? Bro.. I played all SMT and Persona games, and I enjoyed Strikers. The adrenaline of fighting bosses in high speed is just amazing. Not to mention, it was the game where I learned to appreciate Haru and genuinely liked her.
Sexualized characters is a positive not a mark against a game
Never played any of these games, but yunno what? It's pretty based to talk so lovingly about something you expect to get hated on for
Gotta say I agree with your assessment of Soul Hackers 2. It’s a very fun and good game. It’s no Persona, but it was never supposed to be. You’re correct that the biggest issue was the pricing and DLC. The thing that kills me about it is that if all of the issues around this game boil down to the fact that it’s too expensive… then why don’t people just get it on sale? Why not just pass on the DLC? It’s a damn shame because I had a heap of fun playing that game.
All of this game you mention is now back on my radar. I have a feeling games you mention here will probably go up in value because of the disparity between it's real and perceived value. This might as well be titled criminally underrated games.
Godzilla for PS4. I bought Overwatch due to the recommendations and hype, but was bummed that there wasn't a solo campaign. I returned it and ended up with a few titles, with Godzilla being one of them. The only flaw is the saving system (or lack thereof), but it's my favorite game to just chill and destroy.
Love what you love, and if other people go out of their way to tell you otherwise: good! More for you.
I absolutely loved Xenoblade Chronicles 2. The story was amazing, they gave all the Rare blades their own quests, where we learn more about them. We learn about the Antagonists reasons for doing what they did.
The character designs were incredible too, and I liked the open world play style. I'll admit I can see why some people disliked it, since some quests don't tell you how or where to get certain items. But there's guides for a reason.
It’s funny, I was gonna say Xenoblade chronicles 2 and then you brought it up. It’s literally my favorite Xenoblade game along with Torna the Golden country.
I love love Metroid Other M. I’ve never been a big story guy so I could care less about the problems people have with the story. It’s fast and fluid, the ship is fun to explore, and Samus has a lot of cool moves. That’s all I need in a video game.
23:04 "A snowball would have a better chance in the 7th circle of hell of surviving..."
You know, in the Divine Comedy the 7th circle of Hell, Cocytus,, is described as entirely frozen over, binge the prison of Satan, so I think a is snowball would have pretty good chance at surviving there
Oh sick, so it's happening! 🙏
Lmao, this was unironically a good "akschually" moment. Im not even mad.
Yeah, this is a subject I'm all too familiar with. There are plenty of games I like that are seemingly despised everywhere else. Heck, I can think of a number of channels who seemingly go out of their way just to hate on not just some games, but entire franchises and even developers at that. Just one of the unfortunately natures of being into the more niche stuff I guess, they are relatively easier and safer targets to harass.
Anyway, I've actually played and enjoyed some of the games listed on here myself. Namely "Poison Control" and "Dusk Diver 2", though "Hero Must Die Again" is on my wishlist.
Is it alright to go straight to Dusk Divers 2, or should I try the first game?
For me, I've seen a lot of people Hate on Dark Souls II, but it's Very Positive on Steam so that must be a vocal minority.
Dusk Diver 2 left my moobies hurting. Poor ladies must have had circular bruising.
xenobabe chronicles 2 is my most fav game ever made. and it always will be... played it well over 1000 hours by now and i'll play it thousands more until the day i kick the bucket.
Xenobabe 2 is best xenobabe. 😭
My problem with Deamon X Machina is the strong red tint of the game, it's bordering painful.
I also started on Xenoblade X then Xenoblade 1 but I really liked Xenoblade 2.
18:43 you're talking about twitter, you cant take people that use that app seriously. Most people on twitter have more scarlet-rot than malenia.
8:59 to be fair, it was hard for me to get into even in the tutorial.
I am with you in regards to story, if the story was just “you are a mercenary, you do mercenary things as you build up your mech’s power” I’m cool with it.
But as it stands with gameplay, I can’t seem to get a good grasp of it.
my experience with daemon x machina is getting to the final boss of the campaign and not being able to win because you don't have enough ammo to deplete his hp lmfao
Keep sticking to your guns man. I love Pyra so much lol and xeno2 is just pure fun its what gaming is about. Ive had dusk diver 2 sitting on the shelf for a while now and haven't touched it yet sadly
Xeno 2 will always have the warmest of places in my heart. Love it!
you have a twisted view of gaming if merc missions and stutter stepping is what you consider gaming to be about
@@fikaieldjou thx for proving my point as you mald your way through my comments 🤣
@@HallowedBeThyGame what point are you making in your fast food video ? people dont like games you like ? what an insightful point
at the end of the day the reality is the game is shit wether you like it or not, so I guess like it all you want i'm contempt with being right
@@fikaieldjou Xeno2 brought TONS of new fans to the franchise. We all have our opinion but you dont need to be a jerk about it. Xeno2 is kino. go back to league or fortnight dude.
I was afraid of what I might find from here, considering the thumbnail was Praxis. And yeah my reaction was WTF!?
Okay, to be fair when Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was first revealed, I hated the art style that they went with at first, but it grew on me. As for the ”waifu” aspect, I won’t lie, Pyra’s assets were distracting for the first few cutscenes, but the novelty wore off quickly enough.
yeah P5 Strikers rocks. my only issue, and tbf it's a big one, is the lack of Akechi. I also love Xenoblade 2 and genuinely think it's one of the better games ever made.
being honest a lot of these feel more like deep cuts than actually hated games lol
It took place after the original p5 where Akechi was assumed dead. I suppose you can write your own canon to why he's not there if you only played royal.
@@logiclunacy606 I know why, I'm just grumpy about it haha
yeah, the people who complained about xenoblade 2 were kind of crazy, i remember seeing one post on a forum where a guy was complaining about pyra not just having big boobs, but also having the cooking skill, basically complaining that she as a female is attractive and can cook like none of that should be allowed lmao
Musou games have improved so much, P5S got ruled out as one but after Dragon Quest heroes 1 and 2, those were really good news and it delivered. I wish the Xenoblade Chronicles games were available on PC, I only played the first one on the Wii but I never bought another nintendo console ever again and still have no plans.
Final Fantasy VIII, the XIII trilogy and Star Ocean: The Last Hope are games a lot of people aren't too fond of, but they're near and dear to my heart ❤
Agreed on all 3 counts! SO4 has some insanely fun combat. It's a completionist's nightmare, but great for a casual playthrough.
Finally someone sees how I feel about Persona 5 Strikers. I do wish the story was a little better as it felt like they copied Persona 5's vanilla story by making villains that were very similar.
I don't think this was a "hated" game but definitely a forgotten one and a not very well designed game that I absolutely love is Chaos Legion for PS2. Effectively a DMC 1 clone by capcom where you play as a sword wielding summoner. The performance is not the greatest, the story is cheesy as hell, and while there are deep/multiple mechanics it's also pretty simple and repetitive. I swear that if you can gell with the gameplay then you are going to end up feeling either moved by the story, or you are going to laugh at it or maybe even a little bit of both. it can also feel a bit grindy at times much like old DMC
I'm a huge fan of the Neptunia series and every time I hear someone rip into them I think, 'you just don't get it!' Still. I respect everyone's wrong opinions.
Anyone who claims to hate waifus must not really play JRPGs. It would be like a Madden player who hates athletes, or a COD player who hates guns.
I strongly disagree. I am not into the whole waifu/husbando culture and luckily there is more to it than that in jrpg.
I really dig hot anime babes, but I don’t love the word “waifu.” I’m not sure what that says about me.
@@user-ef7gn4jy6v I mean, there is always more than that... it just means you like the characters design and personality basically.
Point any JRPG that you've played and I it will probably have a husbando/waifu, at least I think so 🤔
Yeah you get it.
I dont mind waifu games in fact ive enjoyed more than one, like the senran kagura series, but I do prefer my non waifu focused games to not lean too heavily into waifu character styles as I can find it a bit distracting. Just imo though edit. I hadn't got to the xb2 portion yet but its exactly what I was thinking of haha. But I do like that game and I like Pyramid as a character.
Adding Hero Must Die Again to my wishlist that sounds fantastic. I find most people don't actually hate time mechanics they just think they do so it intimidates them from trying games that have them like Dead Rising and Pathfinder: Kingmaker both games that most who actually try like and the few that don't like them almost always cite something other than the time management as their complaint just as an example.
I liked playing Poison Control myself a year or two ago. I just think one thing that killed some of my enjoyment that some of the later levels had some ingame lag and for some reason I had a few times where my game kinda crash during the final level a few times. (forgot if it did a level earlier or not) Also some weapons just weren't as useful as others and I wished it had a bit more enemy variety but still I did have fun in my playthrough, however. It just needed some more polishing to be more of a classic.
I will hear NO blasphemy against Dusk Diver or Dusk Diver 2!
I’ll admit, some of these I haven’t had the pleasure of playing but I will not allow any slander towards Dusk Diver!!!!
Stellar video my brother! You tell ‘em!!!
Dude thanks so much for the support with Dusk Diver 2! It's so gat dang good!
The only thing i hate about Daemon X Machina is
Marvelous made Code Geass DLC exclusive to Japan only
Dynasty Warriors/Musou is awesome, it's just pure fun and not as braindead as people think. It's even weird seeing it getting hate from JRPGs fans, since there's always so much customization, setups and optimization to it.
Some of the best of the series were the crossovers/licensed titles, like Gundam 2, Hyrule Warriors, Fire Emblem Three Hopes (this one was special!).
Strange, I love Xenoblade 2. Every chapter added a new battle mechanic and it ended up in this really complex system at the end.
Xenoblade 3 let me switch classes every 5 minutes. All my characters had all classes and it never picjed up until I dropped it.
Got Soul Hackers 2 half off during an anime game sale at GameStop. Not the best I've ever played but I was fine with that given I'd only spent $30. I think what I really didn't love was the dungeons. I need to give it more time when I have a chance because I liked the customization.
P5 Strikers rocks, and I don’t care what anyone says, especially the soundtrack.
Speaking of, are you a “Daredevil” or “Counter Strike” guy? I go back and forth between them both as my favorites, but both songs are jams.
Somehow many of my favorite games end up being ones everyone else seems to dislike. Two of my favorite games of all time are:
- Dark Souls 2
- Tokyo Mirage Sessions
Your list was also full of great games. I haven’t played all of them, but I can vouch for Poison Control, Daemon x Machina, XC2, and Soul Hackers 2. All fantastic games!
@@DangerCrow ds2 def got a hate following. I enjoyed my initial playthrough. I also beat the dlc with the pyramid type place. I also enjoyed the story prob more than any From game since (until ER.) That said, when I try replays I tend to hit places where I just stop having fun and give up. Also don't know what is considered the best experience anymore. For years I saw the scholar version, but now I see more love for the original release. I honestly didn't enjoy the scholar version. It felt like the game was plugged into a randomizer or something.
Never played the first two but they look interesting. The rest are all good games. Surprised to find out they are “hated.” Especially Strikers. The only criticism I’ve heard is about the lack of Royal content.
Poison Control is 3 dollars on the PSN store by the way.
HOW COULD ANYONE HATE WAIFU!?!?
A lot of people hate cute things and want to uglify it.
@@orangeslash1667 That's true, along with fanservice complaints as well. Then again, sex sells.
@@orangeslash1667 Can you back it up with a source? Where is the proof? Can you show everyone the evidence? Come on.
Show us the proof.
I bought Poison Control on release day, I liked it. It's not fantastic but it was a fun game and it filled a small part of the gigantic hole of Mega Man Legends 3's cancelation. I thought Red Ash would help but it's "existence" just makes the hole bigger.
Xenoblade 2 is a very slow burner tho.
Getting past the early parts is a little bit of a trial... but if you can stick with it, it gets much better
no it doesnt its still shit, in fact the more you pay attention to it the worst it gets, you simply have to have the necessary critical thinking skills to see how shit it is
@@fikaieldjou This is just low hanging bait honestly so I won't even respond to it. Nice try tho. I will however give you a nice block! Try a bit harder next time.
What's funny is that people complained that "you can win battles by just auto attacking" and that the combat isn't interesting until much later, but those same people would complain if the game told you everything in a much shorter timespan. You just can't win lol
@@fikaieldjousince when is investing time into a game and learning how it works bad?
12:36 FINALLY!!! SOMEONE THAT KNOWS THIS GAME!!! God this game is good.
Many people criticize Drakengard's ground combat; however, I enjoy it and believe it's prefect for the story that's being told.
So F them.
wish someone would make a psx hack to get rid of the tank controls in vampire hunter d. someone made armored core full 360 analog so its def possible
Xenoblade chronicles 2 is my favorite Xenoblades. I love it from the blades to the super bosses, definitely an amazing game and it’s my favorite RPG on the Switch. I thought it was amazing that all the blades had a different artist create them (almost all the blades I believe some had the same artist)
The Xenoblade Chronicles 2 discourse has calmed down but it's still pretty awful at times. And as someone who does like the game there are still issues that are much more of a problem then attractive ladies.
The tutorials that you can only see once, the way the field skills are implemented, the gacha system, its pacing at times. But instead it's just "you only like this game because there's some big old honker around every corner."
As someone who hates it's style of gameplay it is easily one of my favorite games on the switch because of its story and its characters and it's music. Oh my God it's music I love it so much. It was also the first Xenoblade game I played, I think it's better than 1 DE and 3 and it's no contest. And it's DLC torna is even better.
Xenoblade 2 isnt really hated. It has a portion of people that absolutely despise it. But its still a well recieved game overall. I even think its the best game of the trilogy.
maybe not as hated but seeing as you include music from it in the editing I think Legend of Heroes: Cold Steel could count. It is one of the most popular game of the series but also the one that typically gets the most blame for "ruining the series" but it certainly is still a great game, in some aspects worse, in some aspects better. Though I will never exuse the existence of Musse in the later games. I could do without her, the rest of those games is fine.