As long as they make them closer to DF strength/defensiveness I'm fine with it. IMHO all tanks or healers should be in A&B tier ONLY. You want to fix the drought of Tanks&Healers in M+ LFG? Start there!
Erh... Luck of the draw is the 15% damage boost, separate from the defensive proc/cast - extending luck of the draw means you do more damage as a prot pally, but it doesn't extend guardian of ancient kings lol.
Please note, it's not that I think the prot pally tier isn't incredibly broken - but it's the fact that the damage boost on double the uptime compared to every other tank spec that's great - not goak uptime Also, you gotta think about the procs of defensives in relation to their normal duration. Survival instincts baseline lasts 6 seconds - so getting 4 seconds extra is a lot better than prot pally goak which lasts natively for 8 seconds, relatively. bdk one is kinda weak cause we do not play umbilicus currently in either m+ or raid content. Meta proc for vdh is insanely strong. BRM fort brew incentivizes master of harmony over shadopan.
Blizz beefing up tanks for the next patch is a win (?Blackjack?)! Mosh pit Guardian sounds like fun. The patch notes for Death Strike could be a little more clear.
I only play prot warrior, but GDruid set seems to be trying to push cat weaving in all forms of content. If you play DoTC you retain 80% uptime of iron fur armor and regenerate. So if we have 50% uptime of the 2pc you could almost fully tank in cat form within certain pulls. Imagine grabbing all NW first area proc the set bonus, swap into cat send your devastate to that casts mangle for free from your 4pc. That free mangle procs devastate again casting idk Starfall. Sounds like that’s the *fun way to go for me*
wounder if the proc rates will be based on number of hits, or damage taken. almost have to be based on HP lost cus other wise it will be a nightmare to balance m+ trash pulls v raid boss fights.
blood dk should now do alot more dps in dungeons with these tier sets,atleast they got dps boost and as i read wowhead deathstrike hit upt to 15 not 2 enemies
Be aware that Prot paladin baseline takes more damage then say a guardian druid. Paladin is made to have cooldowns up much of the time otherwise you fall down this is not a new thing it was the same in dragonflight. I am not saying it is not strong just that only looking at what a cooldown does is not telling the whole story.
Zuco Quote of the Year: "You're just gonna be wigging out as a Druid. You're gonna have this crazy Druid. He's just dancin' on the dance floor, casting 500 different spells, and they're all just spittin' out of him like a machine gun." 🤣
As long as they make them closer to DF strength/defensiveness I'm fine with it. IMHO all tanks or healers should be in A&B tier ONLY. You want to fix the drought of Tanks&Healers in M+ LFG? Start there!
As a dps player I whole-heartedly support this!
Brewmasters needs alot of love.
Erh... Luck of the draw is the 15% damage boost, separate from the defensive proc/cast - extending luck of the draw means you do more damage as a prot pally, but it doesn't extend guardian of ancient kings lol.
Please note, it's not that I think the prot pally tier isn't incredibly broken - but it's the fact that the damage boost on double the uptime compared to every other tank spec that's great - not goak uptime
Also, you gotta think about the procs of defensives in relation to their normal duration. Survival instincts baseline lasts 6 seconds - so getting 4 seconds extra is a lot better than prot pally goak which lasts natively for 8 seconds, relatively. bdk one is kinda weak cause we do not play umbilicus currently in either m+ or raid content. Meta proc for vdh is insanely strong. BRM fort brew incentivizes master of harmony over shadopan.
Blizz beefing up tanks for the next patch is a win (?Blackjack?)! Mosh pit Guardian sounds like fun. The patch notes for Death Strike could be a little more clear.
Didn’t brew basically get zero changes though?
@@MysteryMan159 This is just the tier sets for each tank and how they might perform
I only play prot warrior, but GDruid set seems to be trying to push cat weaving in all forms of content. If you play DoTC you retain 80% uptime of iron fur armor and regenerate. So if we have 50% uptime of the 2pc you could almost fully tank in cat form within certain pulls. Imagine grabbing all NW first area proc the set bonus, swap into cat send your devastate to that casts mangle for free from your 4pc. That free mangle procs devastate again casting idk Starfall. Sounds like that’s the *fun way to go for me*
wounder if the proc rates will be based on number of hits, or damage taken. almost have to be based on HP lost cus other wise it will be a nightmare to balance m+ trash pulls v raid boss fights.
blood dk should now do alot more dps in dungeons with these tier sets,atleast they got dps boost and as i read wowhead deathstrike hit upt to 15 not 2 enemies
I know almost NOTHING about tanking on Prot Pally but this sounds absolutely broken. Can any prot mains vouch for it?
Prot Pally Pusher here. Yes.. This is crazy good... The insane DPS we can pump out during this WHILE taking 50% less damage is nuts..
@ so it’s (probably) getting nerfed haha?
@sethsullivan3986 I would assume these will all probably see some tuning. Also the PPM will make a massive determination.
Pretty sure they confirmed it was IBF not Vamp Blood for the 2 piece
The guardian 4pc implies a longer procc cd. Otherwise you wouldn´t have the time to use your 10 abilities.
Will other tier lists be made for the dps?
@@nikodrac2105 Yep, going to do DPS and healers
blood dk is a absolute joke... F
As a bdk I agree, absolute garbage...
Be aware that Prot paladin baseline takes more damage then say a guardian druid.
Paladin is made to have cooldowns up much of the time otherwise you fall down this is not a new thing it was the same in dragonflight.
I am not saying it is not strong just that only looking at what a cooldown does is not telling the whole story.
This is correct. But this can smooth them out ALOT depending on its PPM.
Videos without timestamps man...
Zuco Quote of the Year: "You're just gonna be wigging out as a Druid. You're gonna have this crazy Druid. He's just dancin' on the dance floor, casting 500 different spells, and they're all just spittin' out of him like a machine gun." 🤣
@@adamtatusko IM WIGGIN' OUT DUDE!!
@@ZucoWoWhey you calm down
Warr can have the best tier set but the class will be giga nerfed and prot warr will be worst tank in s2 if the changes go live.