Keeping the small traders out by increasing entry amount is an unpopular step. SEBI could hv simply asked the brokers to modify their software to put a stop when a trader's account goes into loss during a day (kill switch gets automatically activated, next day only it will open), in which case traders will be very careful, overtrading controlled n losses reduced.
Cash settlement 😅...bt option writer (seller) decide price of underlying bcz he has obligation of delivery of underlying (altogether seller hv upper hand in options)
Due to expiry daily algo trades used to use Hdfc bank to bring up or down that day's nifty expiry... it will stop and hdfcbank might move up ...this elephant was chained for this purpose I think... now it will be used 2 day's in a week instead of daily....my belief hdfc bank share holders will breath easy
You may be wrong Mr Sunder. NSE will retain NIFTY & BSE will retain SENSEX for weekly expiry. Because SEBI may insist to retain broader market indices rather than sectoral indices.
Also it is logical for bse to retain sensex instead of bankex because the people who trade in nifty weekly expiry will shift to sensex weekly expiry , which will generate huge volumes for bse
@@Intraday07 May be true. But fluctuations are more in sectoral indices compared to broader indices. If SEBI really intends to help retailers from losses it may insist for broader indices weekly expiry
Government need to protect the common people from losing money in option trading. It will have effect on market sure and many big sharks can't make much money.
Sir, If i have sold december monthly option 1 lot PE 25qty. If the lot size is increased to 60 qty per lot. The should i square up my position or in case if i dont want to square up then in order to make it complaint with new rule then i should sell 275 more qty so that it is in multiples of 60
Outcome of Sebi changes 1. Throwing small option sellers away from the market 2. Converting them as buyers and preparing them to loosen more 3. Safeguard FIIs and hedge funds by not having proper controls and allowing them to make sudden spikes
People who trading high capital it's not an issue.. Option buyers it is not at all an issue..they can buybat out of the money.....asusual will lose money My suggestion is there should be entry criteria to do options like taking initial deposit of let say 50k. Then people who have lower capital will not show intrest in options and people who have big capital 50k deposit is not a bigmatter
Govt had stopped sale of loose cigarettes. They thought that people will not buy full packet , so consumption will go down . But what actually happened is that since I started buying full packet consumption went up three times since there was no effort to out and buy cigarettes . Same thing they are doing my increasing market lot size . Also all sorts of undesirable activates like dabba trading , pool trading , account management will start .
Currently there is only overnight position limit.... After intraday limit is introduced F&O ban will happen at exactly 95%...currently ban happens only from next day... So before that it can even become 110-130% also
I think NSE will retain Nifty as it is benchmark index and many large institutional investors would like to hedge whole India market exposure with that.
still suppose someone wants to do option selling with 1 lot with hedging then approximately how much money is required ? and why don't you appriciate the traders doing option selling with 1 or 2 lots ?
Well explained sir, so its a Sellers Market and not Buyers. So, Retailers Participation, Economy, Development, Knowledge are nothing, but to gain the Revenue for More market Scan. Very good suggest for safe guarding small traders. What about SEBI Chairperson's case, that must have come first before all this. Are they waiting for Himalayan Baba to answer? This predicts a very Drangerous Fall of all Financial Services and Institutes.
As the retail traders prefer to buy with a small amount of money, with the increase in lot size, they will have to risk more money and that will deter them to enter in the market. As the number of sellers will be decreased, the number of buyers will also be decreased. So, it is tough to say the effect on price. It might be decreased if I am not wrong.
1 How about adding more exchanges and increase the number of expiry days 2. No info on monthly expiry from sebi. Can we assume this product will be available across indices like it is now.
It is also possible that 50% people either turn buyer or leave F&O trading and 50% people increase their capital as seller, thus eventually leading to more F&O trading in market overall..
Sir I used to pledge liquidbees and collect premium by selling options and buy hedges which is net credit stretegy . Without having cash in my trading account. In this up-front margin rule can I do it or I have to keep cash in my account?
I don't think the new SEBI rules will impact option buyers, and option writers also have option of buying deep OTM options to bring down their margin requirement when they trade closer to expiry.
You missed one thing. It will badly affect portfolio hedging for investors as lot size increased. We need atleast 15 lakh portfolio. We can not buy put for 5 lakh portfolio.
Sir as you said about options 1st change bad gor buyers i think it's good change because those who doesn't have margin should not buy in too otm strikes because it's much more risky than atm or itm because of his chance of loose his money is 90% than itm or atm.....
Simple, if you have Money and knowledge only then you should trade in F&O. Else just invest, either in ETF or Mutual funds. It will double your capital in 5 years. Many salaried person have compounded their wealth many folds and are holding multi crores portfolio.
Sir to begin with, why did they have to force brokers to not give any leverage benefits in cash market? We have stop losses and also circuit switches to prevent any game stop like situation. This is what forced all the small capital traders to go into options.
These rules are good for option buyers bad for retail sellers, after introduction of weekly expires these retail sellers turned into gamblers by speculating on expiry day, thankfully option buyers are saved.. also these retail sellers use spread on both call and put at margin cost now they hv increased the contract size now they cant afford many lots which gives edge to option buyer now option price will move clean without punching orders from retail sellers...
1:59 ; Small correction; odds are less for the NIFTY Option size to 60; since the LCM will be 300; they will make it 75 so that small retail players can change it to75 instead of 300 . For e.g. if I have 1 lot of dec 26K PE long; I can convert that to 3 lots if it is 75; but I can't take it 300 since it requires 12 X money ; same with option sellers as well.
I am glad to inform you that, due to the tradex, I have earned a profit of 38K with a capital of 75K. As there are few disadvantages to tradex, such as the very limited strike prices. Is there any other applications similar to tradex? Is SEBI is implementing new rules of increasing position size , if yes , from when it is implementing ?
So the actual expiry will be a day before expiry for buyers as the sellers look to square off positions due to higher margin money needed on expiry day
Sir...the buyers logic is not correct. Because with lot size change , option premiums will also change....so buyer can buy the same strike price option as its premium will reduce as lot size is increased.
Sir remember that sebi has said they'll increase lot size to 30 lakhs in a phase manner and the first phase is this ... Expect on more increase in lot size
Whether you do intra day or position trade its permitted by law and its not gambling. There could many buyers who are successful with wealth running into lakha to crores. It's the way you decide how to be profitable trader.
Where is the video you promise to make on Oct 2nd your pnL
😂
Today is holiday wait for tomorrow
He was on ban last year..
in evening
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Sebi need even more money from retailers
AWS12D अभी भी अत्यधिक कम मूल्यांकित है।
What is this?
Later they increase the Lot size from 15 L to 30 L
then to 1cr😂
I like your utter simplicity!! I great sunder!!
Keeping the small traders out by increasing entry amount is an unpopular step. SEBI could hv simply asked the brokers to modify their software to put a stop when a trader's account goes into loss during a day (kill switch gets automatically activated, next day only it will open), in which case traders will be very careful, overtrading controlled n losses reduced.
Hence broker bankrupt
😂😂@@Calmplanner
that canot be done
it will become like gambling app if thy do it😂
@Calmplanner 😂😂😂
Small speculators will be thrown out, or they will suffer more losses, especially who buy far OTM options : chances of loosing entire premium is 99%
Still we get 11 weekly expiries in any month, we are still good😛
if there no buyers then what will the sellers do
he cannot square off his positions without a buyer and says they are gamblers :)
Cash settlement 😅...bt option writer (seller) decide price of underlying bcz he has obligation of delivery of underlying (altogether seller hv upper hand in options)
Due to expiry daily algo trades used to use Hdfc bank to bring up or down that day's nifty expiry... it will stop and hdfcbank might move up ...this elephant was chained for this purpose I think... now it will be used 2 day's in a week instead of daily....my belief hdfc bank share holders will breath easy
Without option, buyers, how to sellers?😢😢
Without option sellers how to option buyers.
Hedgeding balances the equation for both option buyers and sellers to a larger extent
You may be wrong Mr Sunder. NSE will retain NIFTY & BSE will retain SENSEX for weekly expiry. Because SEBI may insist to retain broader market indices rather than sectoral indices.
& VICE VERSA as well bro, SEBI may Insist to keep only monthly expiry for broader market Indices to avoid weekly speculation in it
Also it is logical for bse to retain sensex instead of bankex because the people who trade in nifty weekly expiry will shift to sensex weekly expiry , which will generate huge volumes for bse
@@Rajesh_n_n True. ! This will inturn force NSE to keep NIFTY for weekly expiry so that it does not lose its market to BSE
@@Intraday07 May be true. But fluctuations are more in sectoral indices compared to broader indices. If SEBI really intends to help retailers from losses it may insist for broader indices weekly expiry
@@rambabupenmatsa3011 sensex is senseless index
I have positions In December option In 50 lot size what can I do with this now ?
If option buyers are gamblers, also if no gamblers in market, what is the use of being an option writer.
Option buying meant for hedging portfolio. If no gamblers still buyers will be there to hedge their portfolio
@@parameshbogala-ru5pp they hedge what they sold. So when they sold someone bought. 😂
Government need to protect the common people from losing money in option trading. It will have effect on market sure and many big sharks can't make much money.
If Nifty has only monthly expiry then option premium ATM will be more than ₹500 in the first week.
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I think u have a gift from god how to teach other i.e. god gifted teaching personality...
I dont know why people hate mr pr sundar ,i guess he is a genune person ❤
Any changes in stock options or only in index?
Thank you for explaining so clearly with your views. Once again , the teacher within comes out
Sir, pls clarify is this only related to INDEX DERIVATES or it is also applicable for Stock FnO too?
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By implementing these changes, what will be for Weekly Expiry of NIFTY MIDCAP & FIN NIFTY ?
How will you sell options if sebi targets option buyers .. this will create instability in the market if sebi turns out against option buyers
Yes most worth comment..
Good explanation and professional.
Yes you said India is like this and that. Please be careful and professional when using word Sir.
Sir,
If i have sold december monthly option 1 lot PE 25qty. If the lot size is increased to 60 qty per lot. The should i square up my position or in case if i dont want to square up then in order to make it complaint with new rule then i should sell 275 more qty so that it is in multiples of 60
Sir, Please specify no. expiries in month ? Is there any restriction on them ?
Outcome of Sebi changes
1. Throwing small option sellers away from the market
2. Converting them as buyers and preparing them to loosen more
3. Safeguard FIIs and hedge funds by not having proper controls and allowing them to make sudden spikes
What's your 3rd point
Elaborate
Super bro
People who trading high capital it's not an issue..
Option buyers it is not at all an issue..they can buybat out of the money.....asusual will lose money
My suggestion is there should be entry criteria to do options like taking initial deposit of let say 50k. Then people who have lower capital will not show intrest in options and people who have big capital 50k deposit is not a bigmatter
Sir , this 2% extra margin, is there a mandate that it should be cash or cash equivalent? Please clarify
How about the monthly options in individual stocks?
SEBI good decision this will help small F&O buyers not to trade,go for swing trade shortly
I feel nifty and Sensex have to be retained as they are broader ones for hedging which is the basic cause of options
Most of what PR Sundar Says eventually becomes True! This is a very good reference Material assess PNL and ReCalibrate Trading.
Sir, What about no. of monthly expiries ? They too be available for trading.
Hi Sir, how about the lot size of normal companies? Will they increase them as well?
What will be the impact on stock future buyers?
Long Live SEBI, Long Live Share Market, Long Live PR Sundar 😂
Is there bee liquidity in far otms even if price is higher?
Bank Nifty is now on monthly expiry...😢😢
Govt had stopped sale of loose cigarettes. They thought that people will not buy full packet , so consumption will go down . But what actually happened is that since I started buying full packet consumption went up three times since there was no effort to out and buy cigarettes . Same thing they are doing my increasing market lot size .
Also all sorts of undesirable activates like dabba trading , pool trading , account management will start .
Pool trading 😂
Expiry day
Biggest loss😢😢😢😢
Daily expiry is needed for option buyers
Currently there is only overnight position limit.... After intraday limit is introduced F&O ban will happen at exactly 95%...currently ban happens only from next day... So before that it can even become 110-130% also
I think NSE will retain Nifty as it is benchmark index and many large institutional investors would like to hedge whole India market exposure with that.
They will hedge with Monthly not with weekly generally
Yes NSE WILL RETAIN NIFTY AS THEIR WEEKLY EXPIRY...
Awesome work, beyond words…. Congratulations!!!
still suppose someone wants to do option selling with 1 lot with hedging then approximately how much money is required ? and why don't you appriciate the traders doing option selling with 1 or 2 lots ?
Well explained sir, so its a Sellers Market and not Buyers. So, Retailers Participation, Economy, Development, Knowledge are nothing, but to gain the Revenue for More market Scan. Very good suggest for safe guarding small traders.
What about SEBI Chairperson's case, that must have come first before all this. Are they waiting for Himalayan Baba to answer?
This predicts a very Drangerous Fall of all Financial Services and Institutes.
As the retail traders prefer to buy with a small amount of money, with the increase in lot size, they will have to risk more money and that will deter them to enter in the market. As the number of sellers will be decreased, the number of buyers will also be decreased. So, it is tough to say the effect on price. It might be decreased if I am not wrong.
Sebi and govt don't want retail option sellers .they need option buyers for the favour of big players
Contract size should be 5k so that retailers can sell options
SEBI could have made all the weekly options expiry to same day like previously Nifty and Bank Nifty had expiry on Thursday.
True
1 How about adding more exchanges and increase the number of expiry days
2. No info on monthly expiry from sebi. Can we assume this product will be available across indices like it is now.
It is also possible that 50% people either turn buyer or leave F&O trading and 50% people increase their capital as seller, thus eventually leading to more F&O trading in market overall..
Wish you were made the SEBI chief.
Very good explanation of the changes, thank you sir!
Whoever already in trading, they know all these & SEBI announcement if these changes itself is self-explanatory. No need of explanation by others
Sir I used to pledge liquidbees and collect premium by selling options and buy hedges which is net credit stretegy . Without having cash in my trading account. In this up-front margin rule can I do it or I have to keep cash in my account?
Speculation on UA-cam is more than in F & O
Ha ha ha ha. Super comment!😂
Sir, When buyers are reduced due to New F&O rules, to whom Sellers are going to sell ?
Is any of theses changes are applicable to equity FnO
Still those doing intra,, will do,,,,, since one can buy & sell the same day..
What is the lot size of nifty in your beginning of option career, in which year sir, please share your biography sir?
Hello Sir, Could you please make a video on how can we open Business Account just for FnO trading purpose?
Retailers lossing heavy money in banknifty so sebi allows only Nifty
I don't think the new SEBI rules will impact option buyers, and option writers also have option of buying deep OTM options to bring down their margin requirement when they trade closer to expiry.
Sir as per the news on business standard website, NSE is retaining Nifty 50 weekly expiry, is that true?
Sebi taken very good step to protect small retailers , daily expiry make market worst totally side ways , now market will move daily
You missed one thing. It will badly affect portfolio hedging for investors as lot size increased. We need atleast 15 lakh portfolio. We can not buy put for 5 lakh portfolio.
The better thing is to stop Intraday trading &develope only investment.
You need buyers and sellers in market else market will become standstill
Nifty is the good index for optain and bse sensex is the best index for optain buying . when release p&l sir thanks
Good, bad or ugly, our market goes up only.
Market goes up because of economy and cash purchases. People are bullish on India are investing through MF.
To get profit in trading one should have cores of rupees to manipulate.
Skill is more important than money in Trading
More option buyers, and even more far OTM buyers. Party for sellers! Long live Theta!
Sir as you said about options 1st change bad gor buyers i think it's good change because those who doesn't have margin should not buy in too otm strikes because it's much more risky than atm or itm because of his chance of loose his money is 90% than itm or atm.....
Daily expiry make our market gambling only sideways, now it will good for market movement
Simple, if you have Money and knowledge only then you should trade in F&O. Else just invest, either in ETF or Mutual funds. It will double your capital in 5 years. Many salaried person have compounded their wealth many folds and are holding multi crores portfolio.
What about the equity option case, so now people are slowly moving to equity options instead of index options?
Sir I am an option seller with single lot
After loosing lot of money in buying decided to sell options now
And now this rule 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sir to begin with, why did they have to force brokers to not give any leverage benefits in cash market? We have stop losses and also circuit switches to prevent any game stop like situation. This is what forced all the small capital traders to go into options.
These rules are good for option buyers bad for retail sellers, after introduction of weekly expires these retail sellers turned into gamblers by speculating on expiry day, thankfully option buyers are saved.. also these retail sellers use spread on both call and put at margin cost now they hv increased the contract size now they cant afford many lots which gives edge to option buyer now option price will move clean without punching orders from retail sellers...
1:59 ; Small correction; odds are less for the NIFTY Option size to 60; since the LCM will be 300; they will make it 75 so that small retail players can change it to75 instead of 300 . For e.g. if I have 1 lot of dec 26K PE long; I can convert that to 3 lots if it is 75; but I can't take it 300 since it requires 12 X money ; same with option sellers as well.
He already mentioned that
@@arayaray2666 he mentioned that in the last; he was telling lot size 60 in the beginning for NIFTY
All though your too good at market analysis sir i respect you
How about market reaction for this news? Nothing? Rally resumes?
I am glad to inform you that, due to the tradex, I have earned a profit of 38K with a capital of 75K.
As there are few disadvantages to tradex, such as the very limited strike prices. Is there any other applications similar to tradex?
Is SEBI is implementing new rules of increasing position size , if yes , from when it is implementing ?
All these changes are only for Index trade? What about individual stocks
It will be Monthly expiry as usual
NSE WILL RETAIN NIFTY AS THEIR WEEKLY EXPIRY
Thank You for taking time out and doing this..
So the actual expiry will be a day before expiry for buyers as the sellers look to square off positions due to higher margin money needed on expiry day
Very good decision by sebi. I was waiting for for this decision
Bhai tu profitable tho nahi hoga...Thora sa knowledge la Bhai.
@@filterrahasya593 Is it Thora or Thoda ?
Lot sizes also increases for stock ftr n options. Pl reply
Any changes in mcx also?
Thanks for the detailed information sir
Sir...the buyers logic is not correct. Because with lot size change , option premiums will also change....so buyer can buy the same strike price option as its premium will reduce as lot size is increased.
SEBI want to restrict expiry day trading announcing stiff action on expiry nifty thursday vow what a policy..
Sir remember that sebi has said they'll increase lot size to 30 lakhs in a phase manner and the first phase is this ... Expect on more increase in lot size
so 150😮lot finally
When onwards these Rules will be applicable?
Whether you do intra day or position trade its permitted by law and its not gambling. There could many buyers who are successful with wealth running into lakha to crores. It's the way you decide how to be profitable trader.
How to manage if already buy 2 or 3 lots nifty of November
I am usually selling Nifty weekly contracts every week. Can't I continue this?
Excellent decisions by SEBI! some bogus option buyers should be thrown out of the market
What if they make it 60 and nifty falls ?
Will they increase contract size again ?
How to recover 92 persentage people money