Really nice presentation. Clarification: Crank is putting the targetted / locked enemy on the gimbals of the radar either side of limit of radar (which is on either side of the fire control radar FCR MFD). Purpose is to keep separation from enemy while guiding missile with FCR until the missile can go pitbull mode and self guide.
"20 hours lesson in a nutshell of 5 minutes". I heard that once before 🙂(Mokum). Had already "liked" this tutorial, but watched many more times now and I slowely start to understand this. Thanks for the lesson!
Ya it is a lot and takes a while to understand even from others who this is their job to teach. Glad to see you learned from it. I learn a lot making these and teaching others too.
@@AviationPlus Haha, get to understand the MAR (E-pole) much better now. BTW; I wait before the 6th switch back to KTO (GE actual now) and as soon the 6th switch back to KTO I join missions again 🙂
Yes here is a link to it. It used to be apart of the Korea Training Theater but training assets have been included in the base Korea Theater in BMS. drive.google.com/file/d/1DaUdAfnqnkepsOKgJOhUtwrVqHXEgh5e/view?usp=sharing
I’m confused on how this is initiated. When you first start the grinder (line abreast) does one fighter (or element) always initiate a turn cold? Regardless of spiked etc. So lead would call grinder and element turns cold? It seems if you don’t turn at a set distance from MAR or DOR the elements will end up very close after re engaging. With like 0 time to shoot before MAR. Sorry for long question - hope that makes sense. Really asking about maintaining separation from MAR and eachother
This depends on the situation you could just fly in a wall of 4 spread out x miles or you could initiate the grinder earlier. The lead would have an element perform a spin in advance. There are too many variables to explain I just wanted to get the basics out there in short videos. Attention span to watch a 1+ hour lecture is not ideal for the masses. Thanks for watching.
In general, yes. Flight lead will tell which element (lead and 2 or 3 and 4) will "pump" and that element will turn cold, fly cold a few seconds and then turn back hot to cover the other pair. They can't turn back too soon as they will loose the "grinder effect". There has to be a separation of a few miles after turning back in. Of course you can also do it with a 2-ship, not only with a full 4-ship.
Maybe I just need to get a really good example and just make a video about the example in Tacview. I had a pretty good grinder example in one of the other videos. The pictures help a bit too.
Really nice presentation. Clarification: Crank is putting the targetted / locked enemy on the gimbals of the radar either side of limit of radar (which is on either side of the fire control radar FCR MFD). Purpose is to keep separation from enemy while guiding missile with FCR until the missile can go pitbull mode and self guide.
"20 hours lesson in a nutshell of 5 minutes". I heard that once before 🙂(Mokum). Had already "liked" this tutorial, but watched many more times now and I slowely start to understand this. Thanks for the lesson!
Ya it is a lot and takes a while to understand even from others who this is their job to teach. Glad to see you learned from it. I learn a lot making these and teaching others too.
@@AviationPlus Haha, get to understand the MAR (E-pole) much better now. BTW; I wait before the 6th switch back to KTO (GE actual now) and as soon the 6th switch back to KTO I join missions again 🙂
@@nicovelthuijsen We are moving back to KTO this next week. Anticipation of u4 soon sticking with KTO for a bit and do some training.
Those are great stuff man! keep up with the great work! Just curios where you took the diagram present at 1:10, can you give us at least a reference?
Yes here is a link to it. It used to be apart of the Korea Training Theater but training assets have been included in the base Korea Theater in BMS. drive.google.com/file/d/1DaUdAfnqnkepsOKgJOhUtwrVqHXEgh5e/view?usp=sharing
@@AviationPlus Awsome! Sorry for the late reply!
I’m confused on how this is initiated. When you first start the grinder (line abreast) does one fighter (or element) always initiate a turn cold? Regardless of spiked etc.
So lead would call grinder and element turns cold?
It seems if you don’t turn at a set distance from MAR or DOR the elements will end up very close after re engaging. With like 0 time to shoot before MAR.
Sorry for long question - hope that makes sense. Really asking about maintaining separation from MAR and eachother
This depends on the situation you could just fly in a wall of 4 spread out x miles or you could initiate the grinder earlier. The lead would have an element perform a spin in advance. There are too many variables to explain I just wanted to get the basics out there in short videos. Attention span to watch a 1+ hour lecture is not ideal for the masses. Thanks for watching.
In general, yes. Flight lead will tell which element (lead and 2 or 3 and 4) will "pump" and that element will turn cold, fly cold a few seconds and then turn back hot to cover the other pair. They can't turn back too soon as they will loose the "grinder effect". There has to be a separation of a few miles after turning back in. Of course you can also do it with a 2-ship, not only with a full 4-ship.
@@AviationPlus thank you for the video and answering.
These are so great. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Do you plan to include an overhead tacview of examples of these?
Maybe I just need to get a really good example and just make a video about the example in Tacview. I had a pretty good grinder example in one of the other videos. The pictures help a bit too.
@@AviationPlus the radar lock feature could be useful