Stormwater drain filled with concrete at Longwood community

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • Robin Rodriguez - an HOA board member in the Shadow Bay community in Longwood - said she is afraid flooding will become normal in their neighborhood.

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  • @kmbbmj5857
    @kmbbmj5857 7 місяців тому +31

    I'm confused. If the plat show is correct, it shows a drainage easement. If that easement was there when she bought the property, then she was aware she was buying property with an easement. The only way otherwise would be if she owned the property before the drainage was built and they came on and did it without proper notification way back when.

    • @jannibal9273
      @jannibal9273 7 місяців тому +6

      Exactly.

    • @kevintaylor1434
      @kevintaylor1434 7 місяців тому +4

      I agree with you , would have been better for the story if they had added that information. Then you could tell who's at fault.

    • @vpghahat6328
      @vpghahat6328 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, since the easement was part of the sale of the property and she was aware of it, that means she has already been compensated for the easement (since the price of the property with the easement, which is the price that she paid, was a lower price than if this same property did not have this easement). She had already been compensated 😅

  • @lizzieb6311
    @lizzieb6311 7 місяців тому +35

    No…. It wasn’t HER property…. She needs to be thrown in jail where she belongs. She’s deranged.

    • @Crow-me1er
      @Crow-me1er 6 місяців тому

      How is not her property?!

    • @lizzieb6311
      @lizzieb6311 6 місяців тому

      @@Crow-me1er Are you kidding me?? It’s not a personal stormdrain…it is connected to all the surrounding neighbors…because she filled “her section” it effectively cut off the flow of all other neighbors draining water to the proper outlet. What a ridiculous comment.

    • @AllThingsRacing392
      @AllThingsRacing392 6 місяців тому

      @@Crow-me1erit was there before she moved in

    • @tazpupper7828
      @tazpupper7828 6 місяців тому

      It does not matter if the sewer drain was there before she moved in the house if it wasn’t listed in the details of the home sale somebody installed it illegally between homeowners which wouldn’t be surprising from an HOA. either way it’s called encroaching and a judge has to make a ruling before anybody can do anything to this homeowner because they have the right to do process, but judging by the comments, a lot of people forget that.

    • @DWilliam1
      @DWilliam1 2 місяці тому

      She wasn’t aware of it when she bought the property. She ended up suing the title company and won in 2021 and received $7K in compensation. Her actions are wrong but she also got screwed over.

  • @torence
    @torence 8 місяців тому +30

    Drainage systems on neighborhood streets is the top reason why neighborhoods in Florida don’t go underwater during a big storm. Almost every neighborhood that didn’t have a drainage system on their streets in Sarasota got flooded the other day, even those in Zone D like my dad.
    Sewage and drainage systems need to be compatible and functional to prevent more flooding. Filling them in with concrete should be illegal in Florida, period. Whoever placed the concrete in the drainage system should be legally charged and have their license revoked in the state of Florida. Water can’t recede easily on top of concrete, that’s why cities like Sarasota got more flooded than Bradenton in Manatee County when we both received the same amount of rain on the same day.
    If the HOA was concerned about a sinkhole on her property, getting rid of drainage systems won’t do anything but make the sinkholes worse. When flooded waters sit on top of land, the flow of the water can completely tear away top layers of soil, causing slight erosion to the land/property.

    • @adamsilberman9377
      @adamsilberman9377 7 місяців тому +3

      Its personal property my disputatious friend

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому +1

      @@adamsilberman9377 According to the report, the developer created an easement for the drain pipe to run through the property. Blocking the drain would be in violation of the easement. Besides which, it is incredibly poor citizenship and downright un-neighborly. Regardless of the legalities, as a resident of the neighborhood it was just the wrong thing to do.

    • @adamsilberman9377
      @adamsilberman9377 7 місяців тому

      @@evanstauffer4470
      Yes the contractor SAID an easement was created although there is NO easement recorded with the city.
      Poor citizenry? Its a matter of law, ownership and individual freedom. Only municipalities can claim EMINENT DOMAIN.

    • @TraceeBlair
      @TraceeBlair 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@adamsilberman9377It was there before she bought the house. She can not say it's on her property without permission when she bought it knowing good and well it was there. Duhh!

    • @Ericah81
      @Ericah81 6 місяців тому

      😂

  • @kelvinw.1384
    @kelvinw.1384 2 місяці тому +5

    The pipe was built there in 1981, the home built there in 1994 and she moved in 2019. So her saying they never got her permission is BS. She was trying to get a payoff and thought she could blackmail her neighbors.

  • @carymarshallfelton9188
    @carymarshallfelton9188 7 місяців тому +23

    Covering a drain in florida is insane

    • @AFloridaSon
      @AFloridaSon 7 місяців тому +1

      Buying property and looking and allowing other people to use it as they please isn't very smart either. She payed for it, they should get together and compensate her if they want to use it. Property isn't cheap here.

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому +3

      @@AFloridaSon According to the report, there is an existing legal easement for that pipe. Unless specified in the easement document, once an easement is in place, subsequent owners of the property must abide by the easement and have no right to compensation. That's the way easements work.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 Місяць тому

      @@AFloridaSon Thing is, she paid less for her property with the easement than a comparable piece without an easement. She does not get to violate the easement just because she is the new owner.

  • @TKO67
    @TKO67 4 місяці тому +3

    02:25. Thanks WKMG for the Duck footage. The duck is making the most of it.

  • @Petra-ms3ku
    @Petra-ms3ku 7 місяців тому +26

    She is the problem.

    • @AFloridaSon
      @AFloridaSon 7 місяців тому +2

      Why? Because she wants what she paid for? If you own your own land, are you willing to let other people do what they want on it without you being compensated?

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому +3

      @@AFloridaSon According to the report, there is a legal easement for that pipe. It was created by the developer who built the house. She has no right to be compensated and no right to violate the easement.

    • @joez.2794
      @joez.2794 7 місяців тому +1

      @@AFloridaSon You seem to have a 5-year-old's basic understanding of property rights. Do you even know what the word "easement" means?

  • @southwestsearch
    @southwestsearch 8 місяців тому +11

    Yada yada.
    If there's a problem causing a sink hole then there's a problem with the drainage pipe.
    Blocking off the storm water drain will only add to the ' allegedly ' sink hole problem.

  • @Badpoison1
    @Badpoison1 7 місяців тому +7

    That woman would never have an unbroken window ever again

  • @lisalastnamesmith
    @lisalastnamesmith 6 місяців тому +3

    That drain pipe was there long before that woman was there.

  • @Thomas63r2
    @Thomas63r2 8 місяців тому +9

    The HOA needs to have their legal counsel look into the history of the development, especially in regards to mandated drainage systems by the developer. No developer can obtain construction approval without demonstrating accommodations for drainage. As for payment for drainage and easements, that will be sorted out in court. The likely outcome is that the owner of the land that will have an easement, and the lawyers and the courts will decide how much that is and who will pay for it. As for the photos showing past flooding: they are meaningless without context.

    • @eugeniuciurea631
      @eugeniuciurea631 6 місяців тому

      Probably back in days developers had different mandates and requirements for the atom water drain system.
      As usually developer, and builder want to build neighborhood with less expenses.
      Project for storm water drain system may had two or three solutions, and a good one was too expensive, so developer ran for less expensive solution and placed drain along the privat propriety initially proving with calculations that amount of water will not be drastically and it is okay to run drain pipe like that.
      People don’t know that engineers always have two or three solutions, and one which is the best. But managers, builders, project money owners are not building neighborhoods for them, but for money.
      So why spend extra money for the best solution if they can assure minimum and sell houses as it is ?
      If HOA invited mass media that means situation is complicated and there are some code violations in that drain system which were not fixed initially.
      Otherwise nobody will call news but will handle situation through the court.
      Sometime builder creates drain line between three four front yards and then terminate in a pipe which just drains all water into someone property dousing flood on his/her backyard.
      Everybody has a happy but the one which ends up with the flood.
      it does not matter who bought the house and when house owner should not leave flood on his/her property.
      Fixing issue by homeowner was too costly and he/she decided to go with cheap advise.
      He/she should address that issue to the county, or city if HOA did not want to do anything to help homeowner (as usually HOA gets only money).
      Seems like homeowner nailed a letter to HOA, but that is not HOA responsibility.
      HOA should address question to the neighborhood builder, but seems like they did not do anything to avoid the situation.
      Hopefully now both: homeowner and HOA through the court will find violations and will find a better solution than pore concrete into the water storm drain system.

  •  5 місяців тому +1

    She should be sued by the council damages awarded.

  • @Ericah81
    @Ericah81 6 місяців тому +3

    She just wanted them to start paying her for the water running through her property!

    • @TKO67
      @TKO67 4 місяці тому

      That is where she went wrong. It is all about collecting a check.

  • @car24dude
    @car24dude 5 місяців тому +1

    Put her in prison

  • @genehasenbuhler2594
    @genehasenbuhler2594 7 місяців тому +10

    Every homeowner affected should sue the dumb homeowner for blocking a drainage!

  • @danlowe8684
    @danlowe8684 7 місяців тому +4

    It's not a sinkhole, it's a sump used to collect the water and carry it away. So, no one saw this work happening? The contractor that poured the concrete didn't pull a permit or think something was odd about filling a storm water catch basin with concrete?

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому +4

      Exactly. Highly unethical and probably illegal conduct on the part of whoever actually placed the concrete.

    • @felipenunez2058
      @felipenunez2058 7 місяців тому

      If you pay me to fill in a hole with concrete on your private property who am I to question it.

    • @danlowe8684
      @danlowe8684 7 місяців тому +1

      @@felipenunez2058 Not private property. Utility easement. No one has storm sewer catch basins on their private property.

  • @ShadowbayRobin
    @ShadowbayRobin 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi all! Update: we got the promised “letter” from Seminole County yesterday afternoon, although it was sent via email (to an incomplete list of community members, with the wrong community names referenced, a list of actions the county is taking, and a plea to “contact the HOA” instead of them). Well, that landed as nicely as a lead balloon. Or, maybe a concrete balloon? 😅
    We are not “the HOA”. We are the citizens and voters of Seminole County. We are all talking to each other. We don’t have a communication or follow-through problem. In fact, we are more committed than ever to share our concerns with everyone because we need them to hear about our retirees and their fears. The kids who can’t walk to the school bus stop. The postal workers and the garbage pick-up crews who wade through gross water to get to mailboxes and driveways.
    By the way, I understand from the County that the property owner is challenging the plat . It’s apparently her “right” to do so and that is another reason for the extension.
    Since Seminole County is happy to revisit 40-year-old drainage plans, and 20-40 year old community plats, maybe everyone who hates their community plats and easements should grieve it with Seminole County. The County employee over Public works is Assistant County Manager Kristian Swenson. His phone number is 407-665-7246. The County Attorney reviewing plats for disgruntled homeowners is Neysa Borkert, and her phone number is 407-665-7273.
    I’m sure they would be happy to hear from concerned citizens who have problems with their plats and governing documents.

  • @EatCampShootRide
    @EatCampShootRide 7 місяців тому +2

    How is the concrete crew not somewhat to blame here as well? You can't just go putting concrete wherever you feel like because someone paid you to.

  • @chuckhunter77
    @chuckhunter77 8 місяців тому +16

    Hahahahha! FL is full of geniuses.

    • @lizzieb6311
      @lizzieb6311 7 місяців тому

      Hahahahaha! Yeah! Because California, NYC, Seattle, Chicago, and every other Democrat nest of nasties is FULL of sanity!

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому

      @@lizzieb6311 STOP! The subject of this thread has nothing to do with political parties. Comments like this do not belong in this thread. There are almost an infinite number of You Tube channels dedicated to political BS - take your hate speech there. P.s. "Genius" has nothing to do with "sanity"; it's a measure of intelligence - two totally different things.

    • @lizzieb6311
      @lizzieb6311 7 місяців тому

      @@evanstauffer4470 learn to READ…not hard to do…two comments…the POLITICAL ONE and my RESPONSE. I’m responding to the fool who MADE it political! Now go 🖕yourself. As for “hate speech”…well, add another mask to your Leftist face and go find a closet to cry in. Comments like YOURS make you look like a fool. You’re welcome, Genius 😉😘

  • @EnlistedBombin
    @EnlistedBombin 7 місяців тому +6

    I would build a sand bag wall around her front yard and trap all the water I could on her property. If she had a sink hole before standing water sure is not going to make it go away genius

  • @chrisregister8021
    @chrisregister8021 7 місяців тому +3

    Sounds like she was trying to hold the neighborhood for ransom....😮

  • @joeydego2
    @joeydego2 7 місяців тому +2

    Pretty sure the town and or the developer has rights to put and maintain drainage easements on any property to avoid situations just like this one.

  • @ClockWorkCroc
    @ClockWorkCroc 7 місяців тому +11

    I would feel for them if it wasn’t a HOA

  • @douglaskerr6813
    @douglaskerr6813 6 місяців тому +2

    Can you imagine the skeeters that are growing there? As far her filling that drain with concrete she should be heavily fine and its an HOA too and sur the contractor who did it too

  • @rirkc
    @rirkc 7 місяців тому +1

    What with all the rainfall over the last couple of days, I bet it's catastrophic right now.

  • @brianmack3665
    @brianmack3665 7 місяців тому +2

    How is that not a city drainage pipe with easements. Just because the HOA did not install it what easements predated that project.

  • @artvandelay8090
    @artvandelay8090 6 місяців тому

    It's NOT her property, it's drainage easement. Aside from that, the government owns ALL real estate property. People just buy the rights to it when they buy a home or land, but they don't have the right to do what they please with designated easements.

  • @AFKBard
    @AFKBard 7 місяців тому +5

    That's someone who doesn't care about other people and has decided the world can screw itself. There's no civil conversation to be had with anyone who willingly causes damage to others. The biggest joke is that the city can't do anything to help coz their laws are insufficient. Guess that community can go eff itself coz that one lady doesn't care about anyone but herself.

    • @adamsilberman9377
      @adamsilberman9377 7 місяців тому +1

      You go buy a property and youll change your mind.
      The HOA didnt want to pony up money so she did what she wanted

    • @AFKBard
      @AFKBard 7 місяців тому +3

      @@adamsilberman9377 I am a homeowner and part of a HOA. Her careless disregard for others is not forgivable just because she felt "upset" or taken advantage of. She still affected many others. Not excusable.

    • @adamsilberman9377
      @adamsilberman9377 7 місяців тому +1

      @@AFKBard you know how she feels? Shes not part of the HOA. she may feel taken advantage of by the HOA.
      If there wasnt an easement and the HOA wasnt willing to compensate her thats what they get. You should realize that being part of an HOA Rules are rules and LAWS cant be ignored

    • @jannibal9273
      @jannibal9273 7 місяців тому +2

      The city could step in because the property owner has created a gigantic and dangerous public nuisance that could become extremely dangerous. The HOA is stupid for twiddling its thumbs instead of suing the pants off of the homeowner who couldn't buy the property without getting title insurance and seeing that there was a drainage easement. That he/she/it didn't bother to read the paperwork on file with the City Clerk or the Register of Deeds before buying the property is not the problem of the HOA.

    • @AFKBard
      @AFKBard 7 місяців тому +2

      @@adamsilberman9377 feeling taking advantage doesn't give anyone the right to cause malicious damage like that. It sucks for her but she acted for herself and didn't take the others into account

  • @bluekitty3731
    @bluekitty3731 2 місяці тому

    Update...the homeowner has been sued and has been found liberal for removing the storm pipe at the cost of 45 thousand dollars, unfortunately the members of the HOA (homeowners) will eat the cost of the lawyer fees and the damages to cars and properties.

  • @goddessmelanisia
    @goddessmelanisia 4 місяці тому

    Thats a violation of the utility easement. Homeowners are breaking the law.

  • @Gfysimpletons
    @Gfysimpletons 8 місяців тому +6

    The resident is a more-on*

  • @CharleneCrowe
    @CharleneCrowe 6 місяців тому +1

    Well tht sinkhole should take out the whole area now with tht retaining water. Not to mention the occ alligator tht will move into the neighborhood.

  • @zcvxs
    @zcvxs 5 місяців тому

    Lawsuit Lawsuit Lawsuit

  • @BrianHom-d6j
    @BrianHom-d6j 6 місяців тому +1

    Pipe was there before she bought the house. Just ANOTHER shameless entitled cry baby…

  • @My_Hair_Is_0n_Fire_2023
    @My_Hair_Is_0n_Fire_2023 5 місяців тому

    Diane Goglas Is a realtor too y’all. How could anyone buy a house from a woman who would do this to her own neighbors?

  • @Outrunninaround.
    @Outrunninaround. 6 місяців тому

    Sounds like the HOA got bullied back 😂

  • @joepauly2311
    @joepauly2311 8 місяців тому +5

    Not a drain problem...an HOA problem.

  • @jebrehbaker8613
    @jebrehbaker8613 7 місяців тому +6

    Sand your ground, hahahaha

  • @tamarockstar09
    @tamarockstar09 7 місяців тому

    She did it to be destructive

  • @RodgerMudd
    @RodgerMudd 7 місяців тому +1

    I could care less.

  • @bruceashby6900
    @bruceashby6900 4 місяці тому

    So the pipe broke the hoa said not ours to fix The city said not ours to fix then its hers to fill. Interesting story.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 Місяць тому

      Where do you get the idea it broke from?

  • @tvviewer4500
    @tvviewer4500 8 місяців тому +2

    Just get an easement on another property to make a drain pipe. It’s not a problem with a difficult tip.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 Місяць тому

      Then what is to stop that owner from filling it after it is installed? Would you tell them to just go get an easement on another property to install another drain again? What use is an easement if it can be violated so easily?

    • @tvviewer4500
      @tvviewer4500 Місяць тому

      @ in this case it is way cheaper for the municipality to pay another person for an easement and install a sewer pipe than it is to deal with this lady

  • @ronin2963
    @ronin2963 2 місяці тому

    This HOA is ignorant

  • @craigklein5563
    @craigklein5563 7 місяців тому +1

    I don't feel sorry for anybody who has problems with their property when they choose to live in an HOA!

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому

      In many parts of the country, HOAs are so common that most people are forced to buy in an HOA for lack of enough non-HOA properties. It's gotten to the point where living in an HOA isn't a "choice".

  • @porkchopjp
    @porkchopjp 7 місяців тому +1

    oh floridah!

  • @sibhuskyguy
    @sibhuskyguy 7 місяців тому +1

    she should be held responsible, but being 50 and growing up in the 70's 80's and 90's... that clean clear water is ripe to be played in if you're a kid that goes outside...... just saying.....if i was a kid and lived there i would be playing and enjoying it till it's gone.....

    • @sibhuskyguy
      @sibhuskyguy 7 місяців тому +1

      then hunting up night crawlers (big worms used for fishing) at night and crawfish during the day when it mostly dried up..... both night crawlers and crawfish tails make excellent bait........

    • @sibhuskyguy
      @sibhuskyguy 7 місяців тому

      to hunt night crawlers you have to step lightly everywhere and use a red lensed flashlight...... can pull them right out of the ground..... for crawfish use a dead sunfish that sinks from squeezing the air bladder out... ever so slowly pull it up and net the contents...

    • @sibhuskyguy
      @sibhuskyguy 7 місяців тому

      with the crawfish give it 1 and a half to two hours..... with night crawlers you scan the ground and see them on the surface, they do not see the red flashlight and do not hear your vibrations when you tread ever so lightly on the ground....

    • @sibhuskyguy
      @sibhuskyguy 7 місяців тому

      so they just sit there on the surface of the ground...

  • @thisismyusername6717
    @thisismyusername6717 7 місяців тому

    Wtf are beavers rapidly evolving now?

  • @AFloridaSon
    @AFloridaSon 7 місяців тому +2

    It's their property. No one should be allowed to force you to do it their way on your own property. The rest of the neighbors should be willing to give compensation to the homeowner for use of her land for drainage. It would be cheaper in the long run.

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому +5

      A drainage easement has the force of law and must be respected. No one should have to pay a land owner to abide by an easement that he or she is required by law to honor. A landowner demanding to be paid to not violate a valid easement is guilty of extortion.

    • @DWilliam1
      @DWilliam1 2 місяці тому

      @@evanstauffer4470If it is a valid easement. She apparently sued the title company and won and was compensated. I guess she was looking for more money.

  • @RightsAreNotTradition
    @RightsAreNotTradition 8 місяців тому

    Collect it and see what's in it.

  • @herbbot8241
    @herbbot8241 7 місяців тому

    Lol sand bag be their solution lol the crew who filled the pipe should've said no

  • @frankleespeaking9519
    @frankleespeaking9519 7 місяців тому +1

    Desanctimonious 😂😜🤪😆

  • @dnacenturion
    @dnacenturion 7 місяців тому

    That not far for ware brad heath of the wspd sexually asulted me

  • @Liveabndlearm
    @Liveabndlearm 7 місяців тому

    Lmao

  • @_DB.COOPER
    @_DB.COOPER 7 місяців тому +7

    democrats, 😝😆😆😆😂

    • @rebeccamartin2399
      @rebeccamartin2399 7 місяців тому +1

      GUILTY 34 counts🤣😂🤣👍 Still hurtin?

    • @_DB.COOPER
      @_DB.COOPER 7 місяців тому +1

      @@rebeccamartin2399 democrats, 😆😂😝😝😆😆😆😂😝😝😝😂

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому

      Common decency should not be limited to one political party.

    • @_DB.COOPER
      @_DB.COOPER 7 місяців тому +1

      @@evanstauffer4470 should not but it is unfortunately.

  • @laurie7689
    @laurie7689 7 місяців тому

    Ownership of property is ownership of property regardless of anything that neighbors want. Nobody has to pay any attention to the wants of their neighbors. The only thing that people have to pay attention to is laws. If there were no laws broken in the closure of the drain, then the HOA residents will need to seek another remedy. They can whine about it, but they don't have rights over someone else's property.

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 7 місяців тому

      According to the report, an easement was created by the builder. Just like any other contract, and easement has the force of law. Disrupting a drainage easement is illegal. Anybody who believes they have no moral obligation to consider the effect of their actions on the NEEDS of their neighbors should go live off-grid in the wilderness. This "ME ME ME and Only ME" cancer that is taking over America has to stop.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 Місяць тому

      Have you never heard of an easement? Believe it or not, they do carry the force of law. Given the homeowner has had to mortgage her house to pay for replacing the storm drain, I would suggest there were laws she violated.

  • @BrianHom-d6j
    @BrianHom-d6j 6 місяців тому

    It’s a black American woman living in that house. Now it all makes sense…

  • @frankpirate6708
    @frankpirate6708 7 місяців тому

    Sounds like a liberal