INSANE: Sunny Hostin COMPARES J6 To Holocaust, Slavery; Robby & Niall DEBATE
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Robby Soave delivers radar on how "The View" co-host Sunny Hostin has likened the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot to the Holocaust. #j6 #capitolriots
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Amazing how much a 3 hr riot gets covered but a summer of rioting is like it never happened
Those riots were largely peaceful…
@@silikon2 You forgot to add the fiery part.
Those other riots did not occur at the High Church of Secular Control of the People.
Those other riots occurred at locations of commerce and therefore are barely worthy of being recognized.
It's (d)ifferent
Don’t forget the 2017 inauguration riots.
Niall believing that a small mob could succeed in controlling 325 million Americans is hilarious
It’s ridiculous to think that could have happened at all.
😂 as far as I know we’ve got about +30,000 highly trained extremely lethal “special” troops, but an unarmed hypertensive mob…😂😂😂
And thinking that VP's somehow have the ability to overthrow results at a symbolic proceeding...
He's just lost some legitimacy in taking that position. Of course, he has to do that in order to keep his liberal bona fides intact.
That is irrelevant to the main point. They tried to anyway. It sets a dangerous precedent.
If Niall thinks Jan6 was one of our darkest days in history he needs a good US history lesson, he has no idea what reality is.
Yeah. His brain is broken on topic.
@@dank2171 This does seem to be his pet issue, on others he seems well reasoned...not this one.
Anyone that scared of zipties and knives has never met an electrician. According to his logic I too must be a paramilitary force.
Like the burning of the Capitol building, as well of a large part of the city by (ahem) British troops during the War of 1812? That was inarguably one of the darkest days in US history.
Dude they were literally trying to overturn a legit election aka overturn our democratic process which our countrys entire system is based...ya it was a GIANT deal and conservatives downplaying it is amazing since you guys are supposed to be the "patriots" and constitutional party...but who cares about those things if you can gain power right?? Absolute hypocrites. I'm a lefty and if the left did this I also would call it out. Being principled is rare these days apparently
I’m sure Niall thinks the George Floyd riots were just mostly peaceful protests too.
He said they were fiery but peaceful
There was no insurrection. Period.
I think insurrection speaks to intent not outcome. The ones Niall refers to, whether successful or not (or even plausible), had the intention of stopping a democratic process, thus thwarting the will of the people, thus insurrection. It's not about the swamp, or the deep state, or lobbyists.. and weighing Trumps culpability is another matter.. a variable that need not be there to conclude some of these individuals actions should be categorized as acts of "insurrection".
Not a single person arrested was charged with " insurrection ".
@@grant46n2 How do you know what their intent was? I think they were just angry about not being heard when they called for a meaningful investigation into a very irregular and non transparent election.
@@valkimura1053Please post all the evidence of the "irregular " election of 2020.
I'll wait.
@@valkimura1053There was no substantive evidence to suggest that any actual voter fraud was transpiring in 2020, and the individual primarily responsible for instigating the accusations of voter fraud came from Trump. He riles up his base for months that their candidate not winning inherently indicated fraud, with no evidence other than petulance and arrogance, believing he could only have lost by way of fraudulent means. He invites his supporters to the Capitol via a tweet, telling them to meet him there, and thus commences a riot that made its way inside of the building. The common denominator in precipitating all of the violence and debate around voter integrity was Trump’s loss, with his supporters insisting fervently that his second term was stolen from him. It’s grossly disingenuous to suggest there was any other reason that they were there that day, or to pretend that you don’t see what very blatantly obviously was *the* reason.
An "alleged", insurrection with no guns having been used in a nation where guns are legal is laughable!😂
Not only a nation of guns, but one where there are more guns than people, yet the only gun fired was not by an "insurrectionist" at a protest where no one has been charged with insurrection.
So are NIall's credentials as a journalist.
Well said
@@BWolf00 they had guns
@@Ryan-xw2gm yep thousands of them...all fully autos.
Niall is so propagandized.
He’s vaxxed & boosted, so it should be expected that he’s an NPC.
Is he seriously suggesting that the January 6th rioters almost overthrew the US government?!?!
Yes he is. Remarkable.
That's laughable, so yeah...must have been said by someone [on the extreme left] who refuses to look at proven/provable facts
Yes and all without guns. You would think people planning an insurrection would bring weapons but alas many of these gun owners seemed to have left them at home.
"when the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
Without even hearing his statements yet, I look forward to hearing Nial try to carry water for the idea that “J6 and the holocaust really aren’t that different when you think about it.”
Haha Niall has more integrity than to argue that. I disagree with him totally here but I think he argues more fair than any other cohost that’s been on.
Niall is a fool. Nobody was armed. It was a bad look, but you saw security walking around with the people that broke in. You didn’t see a lot of violent fights. You didn’t see anything extraordinarily violent in the protest. They broke some windows some people trespassed and that’s it. Nobody died, except for one poor lady who was shot by a security guard
I don’t think he’s a fool, but he is wrong
Don't disrespect Niall
No, the protestors absolutely destroyed parts of the building. But I agree that it wasn't as consequential as numerous other protests-turned-riots in the most recent past--especially when you consider that the 2020 riots harmed and even killed innocent civilians/businesses who had nothing to do with police violence.
I think Naill's point is not the probable success of the riot in stopping the transfer of power but that it was the intent of many of the rioters to stop the transfer of power.
Yeah, somehow the Faction that is known for loving Guns went all 'ooops' and forgot said Guns when doing their 'Insurrection'. Yet the narrative had been set and locked quickly
Im sorry but no one cares about jan 6 anymore
I do! Speaks for yourself
Just the moral high ground ultra libs
@@WOKETOREALITY know what that makes you?
I do....I want an investigation into the FBI. Feebs seemed to be running a false flag / fishing op. Sunny is a lunatic.
I do think we shouldn’t forget about it. As a conservative it was objectively wrong for those who stormed a federal building and tried to stop election procedure. If we can criticize the horrors of the BLM riots (which are definitely horrid) we can also lay blame on the criminals who destroyed federal property.
" had it succeeded ""????they didn't get thrown out of the peoples house.they walked away. Stop the pandering
This is all gas lighting. what should be the biggest discussion around this is how the government intentionally neglected policing this protest to allow it to go as far as it did. and the whole reason for this was to create a political talking piece to demonize an opponent of the elites of the uni party. that they would allow our government buildings, historic buildings and important buildings, to be overrun by an almost completely unarmed group of protesters just to create a situation that they could rail on about for years if not decades is disgraceful. to Niall This is the same attitude that speaks to The complete disregard for human life in the Gaza conflict that the elites have shown. This is what is most important about this situation.
I agree completely.
The entire day was orchestrated by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
Niall jumps shark today. If it was a mob, it had no intention. The videos show most stayed between the velvet ropes. His description is contra-factual. He has discredited himself and needs to go. Unfortunately because on other issues he is ok. Wrong & ok. No one NO ONE has been charged with insurrection.
Don't be ridiculous. The FBI was well represented on Jan. 6th. Including dozens of informants who just so happened to show up on their own volition?
You disagree with one thing he said and suddenly he "needs to go"?
Niall has been by far the most honest and well spoken cohost on this show. I totally disagree with him here but he explained himself well and it’s just a genuine difference of viewpoint, which is fine. Some of the other cohosts literally called Ronnie racist and would international misunderstand his arguments as a tactic..anyway I disagree with Niall on most points but I can usually see where he is coming from and I think he’s a breath of fresh air
Strongly disagree with Niall, but his ability to say “ok I guess we just disagree about that…” and do it in a respectful way, is why I like having him on this show.
Yup I totally agree. I like how respectful and level headed he always is, despite having ridiculous takes at times like J6.
100% agree. It’s fine to have differing opinions on things. With Jan 6, I can understand why some people have that opinion, even if I don’t agree. Respectful discourse is always better than a shouting match, it’s why I appreciate the Hill, as it provides such things. I’m sure at some point I’ll find myself agreeing more with Niall on some subjects.
It’s disrespectful to the descendants of slaves and to the Jews persecuted by the Nazis and their families. Although it was a black eye for the country It’s not close to comparable to either.
People that compare things to the holocaust should experience something identical to the holocaust and see if their comparison is correct.
Western society has become so comfortable they don’t know what real threats look like. It’s not microagressions, the earth being two degrees warmer, and unarmed protesters illegally entering the capitol. Good times create weak men…
This is offensive to the victims of the actual tragedy who are surviving. How do you even compare the two?
They forgot the fire arms for the insurrection?????
Right what were they really going to do without weapons trying to overthrow the government that’s ridiculous and nobody cares about January 6 anyway but these Democrats real people don’t care
The INTENTION Niall was not to THWART the certification but to QUESTION it.
You're not aloud to question the acts of the government. Democrats are but you are not.
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You have to love Sunny for working so hard to make sure Dems don't get elected.
It's the PEOPLE's house, not the politicians.
January 6th is Ashley Babbitt remembrance day . Unarmed vet cold-bloodedly murdered for jumping in a window. No one ever held accountable
**Ashli Babbitt. Murdered by a capital police officer, smeared by democrats and RINOs in congress
If you are going to have a remembrance day for her, at least get her name right; Babbitt
@richfarmer3478 jajajajaja got me. voice to text hates my accent . I'm glad you didn't put your hood on and praise the killing of American citizens .
I think it's unfortunate that she died, but let's be real here. What did she think was going to happen? Or does the whole FAFO thing only apply to people you don't agree with?
Dude you don’t just trespass on to federal property and not expected consequences. Those police officers had no idea what the intent of these people was.
I appreciate and respect Ashley for her services, but she should have known out of all people that she was a potential threat. You don’t just trespass into a military base, because you can and will be shot on site. Same for all federal buildings with an armed guard.
there have been other protests at The Capital - why aren't they remembered as something so horrible? On the other hand, the degree of violence, destruction and death of the 2020 summer of love has been completely ignored and forgotten by democrats. There was billions of dollars of damage and over 30 associated deaths.
How is the view not canceled? Oh yeah they’re federally funded.
There was a literal "autonomous zone" on federal propoerty for months. If you dont call that an insurrection you are not a good faith person in this discussion.
How could Sunny Hostin behave in such a callous and cruel manner? “The View” needs to be shut down permanently. Their behavior is heinously reprehensible.
You left out the whole part about Pelosi refusing Trumps offer of sending in the Nat'l Guard. The DEMS wanted this to happen and actively helped it to occur.
Trump believed there was cheating in my opinion. I too believe there was cheating. It does not mean that Trump always handles things well
The fact that no one talks anymore about the attempts on Trump’s life yet they still talk about this BS is unreal to me. We STILL know nothing about Thomas Crooks and his motivations.
4:45 - Poor d'Niall, he's so deluded.... Expressing an opinion is not lying.
January 6th was less violent than the average riot in fact January 6th was the most peaceful riot in America history regarding injuries deaths and property damage
Niall lost the plot on this one. J6 was disgusting but not an insurrection. Last I checked zero people have been charged much less covicted of insurrection. He's still better than the other cohosts.
I disagree with Niall. I was in uniform and on duty that day, and no one in my office was going to take orders from Jim Bob just because he was calling from Pelosi’s office.
That said I am so glad that Niall is representing the left now. He is far more coherent than many of the other people that tried out for that seat. Keep him around!
I'm sorry but rules is rules. If you get a call from the Speaker of the House's Office, you better follow the lawful orders from the Speaker of the House to law enforcement (there are no such orders).
Can someone explain to me how it's more morally palatable for rioters to harm and threaten innocent bystanders who have nothing to do with the Injustice they are claiming exist, rather than against government officials who are actually responsible?
Oh Niall 😂 have fun defending and abiding by the most immature naive and ignorant. Beta perspective.
It’s nice to see 2 people with opposing views being able to respectfully argue their positions.
Anybody SOMEBODY want to go read the last couple lines of our "BILL of RIGHTS"?
Who is paying that Irish guy
NO! There were no guns. Only the few idiots carried knives. They were arrested and still in jail.
Were they actual knives for stabbing people? Or were they just the pocket knives that men 40+ years old and over 240 pounds seem to love carrying around?
For Niall if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. He is really not living in reality
This guy on this show is crazy with his take. They weren't armed and they were even escorted into the building in some cases by the Capitol Police and it's right there as plain as day. Stop, stop, stop.
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, Niall.
Niall is just using excuses for the women on the view
oh and how does Niall say a mob was there to not allow a transfer of power? It is an illogical assumption. Almost all were there to protest, having thought, like many, that there were anomalies in the write in ballots. That is fact, not like Nialls statement, an assumption
What about all the people trespassing at our southern boarder. Why isn't that treated the same as J6?
Let's call Jan 6th what it was. A mostly peaceful protest.
The worst case scenario. They may have succeeded in killing some political figures. But, the government wouldn’t be overthrown. The military would wipe them out. Maybe in Europe that can happen. But in America the majority would prevent that from happening.
Naill: Is "judges REFUSING TO HEAR accusations of illegitimacy of an election" a sign of true democracy? The "darkest days" was late Nov and Dec 2020 when the current oligarchy declared any request for investigation as BASELESS! We see how much they value democracy by the free and fair democratic primary election that was held in 2024!
People went to the Capitol and tried to stop the certification of a Supreme Court Judge. The same judges who uphold our LAWS. How did that become an afterthought? That makes no sense to me.
You do realize that most of these people planned to, and actually did, stay out of the Capitol, and yelled and shouted their discontentment.
At the hearings? They were at the capitol, blocked entries, pounded on the senate doors. Oh yes. Very nice peaceful protest.
Niall believes there is a magic button hidden in the capitol, and when someone presses that button; they get to pick who the president is.
What I like about Niall, unlike past hosts... he calmly explains his view and opinion and doesn't call Robbie a racist.
Niall says the mob had intentions… it’s a mob. The nature of a random mob has no intention other than to disrupt. They were upset, some destroyed property, most even stayed in the velvet ropes of the tour guide path. People forget, over 70 of them had weapons and the only shots fired were by the cops.
Nial is wrong, but I will say he is by far the best of their left leaning hosts.
If we should pedestal j6 then we should also highlight the summer of love & how the media called burning cities peaceful.
20ish years, and people are starting to forget 9/11 and they think we're going to remember Jan 6th? Grow up!
Dems protested every republican presidential win in the past century...
But when the Republicans do it it's an "insurrection"...
😂
I didn’t know that 70-80 years ago, dudebros and grandmas were allowed to move freely and take selfies. I missed that memo.
Niall can’t possibly believe that a shirtless guy wearing buffalo horns came dangerously close to overturning the US election.
Did 'Sunny" remember to compare herself to Goebbels ???
An unarmed protest in a nation virtually awash with guns can't be called a insurrection 😂
What if security in the Capitol had been adequate.
Niall is unbearable, sometimes I think he actually believes what he says...which makes him even more unbearable
Nial, in a country with one of the highest concentrations of firearms, do you think the fact guns were not present (at least not at scale) and shots not fired support claims that Jan 6 was an angry 'protest', rather than an attempt at insurrection. And have you not followed reporting on the FBI's role?
While I agree that it was criminal to break and enter and vandalize our nation’s capital, I am infuriated that the blm rioters and the Minneapolis and Oregon (and multiple others places across America) takeovers weren’t treated the same. Why were those people not held accountable?
(1) Sunny is an idiot. I would say stop covering her since it gives her press time but reporting how morning TV is still spouting lies and propoganda is worth reporting I guess. (2) It was a good back-n-forth between Robby and Niall today. I like the reasonableness of it.
Key words; had that mob succeeded.
They never were going to succeed. If anything they were a delayal nuisance. To compare them to a real full on coup or military assault is assinine. They were hooligans not seal team 6.
By all means don’t move on. Please please please.
Niall, how can you possibly say what anyone's intentions were on Jan 6th? Are you able to read people's minds?
People invading the peoples house 🤔🤔🤔
Listen to Nialls voice @9:25 on onward, this kind of tone is a key marker of someone when they are lying, to themselves and others.
Could the British subject shut up about jan 6 for 5 minutes? We fought a revolution so we didn't have to listen to your bs anymore. In America, we have a right to protest our government you absolute tool.
Arguing that January 6th was no big deal because the perpetrators were inept is no different than arguing that the assassination attempt on Trump was no big deal because the shooter was incompetent.
I love the fact that these guys can have a respectful conversation about something they are both so passionate and opinionated about. This should be shown to kids/teenagers in school to demonstrate how to have a logical and respectful debate.
Niall, were the people walking between the guide ropes trying to ferment an insurrection?
Finally an actual debate! Love it!
What Naile really wants to say is, He hasn't seen anything like this since the storming of the Bastille.🤣🤣
They went there to make their voices heard because the courts weren't hearing them, Congressmen and women weren't hearing them and it is the #1 thing the CONSTITUTION ALLOWS... is to PETITION THEIR GOVERNMENT!!!
Great debate guys! 😊
7:28 If any of them had guns, it would have been front page news. In fact, I recall a statement from an official that not a single gun charge had been made.
They'd be permitless carrying and would have been prosecuted. If even one had a firearm we'd know his name.
And it still was front page news for a ridiculous amount of time
I'd love to hear Niall describe how a bunch of people walking through the Capitol taking pictures were going to stop an election and overthrow a government with no weapons. That would be a neat trick.
Can’t we compare it to the Whiskey Rebellion or Shay’s Rebellion (which BTW were more violent than Jan 6th) instead of going to Chattel Slavery or the Holocaust?
That would require Sonny to actually know about those events...
9:25 Niall’s high pitch change… says he knows it is ludicrous
Niall is clearly wrong on this, but I really appreciate the format that the Hill has finally settled on. These two are awesome together. Informative, entertaining, and insightful. Thank you thank you thank you.
They have a constitutionally protected right to protest, disrupt, and prevent that certification. In fact, they have a constitutional right to overthrow the government.
This was worst of all time. I will NEVER forget it!
What an insult to everyone who experienced slavery and the Holocaust.
oh I really like Nialls. The first liberal on rising that can stand by his convictions (which I do not share) and not devolve into name calling, hysteria or smug dismissal. *chef's kiss*
Yeah he's a good guy. Misguided at times, but always respectful.
Ignorance...pure ignorance and prejudice by people who have probably never demonstrated for anything.
Well said Robby, good job.
SO refreshing to hear people DEBATE !! Great job exploring various perspectives regarding J6...there is more at play here than meets the eye.
The United States Capitol cannot be invaded by its own people. The Capitol belongs to it's people, not the government.
Great to see a vigorous debate between these two.
I agree 100%, we need to close the borders, accept Canada as our next State, buy Greenland, give back Porter Rico, pardon of the Jan 6th prisoners, Now!!!
Not only did she compare it to the Holocaust, she said the Holocaust is part of American history in her quote. In other words, she included the Holocaust as one of the worst things in American history
An unarmed insurrection in THIS country? Cmon Niall
Congratulations to Sunny Hostin for snitching on her husband, who was committing insurance fraud.
Jan 6th was a small dust up in the big picture. Those people have been over punished and one was murdered. They all need pardoned and allowed to move on with their lives.