@@freddyfootstomps6557 "oh _boy , i love when my political bias gets in the way of my morals... gotta justify whatever irregularities the people i don't like denounce_ lul" Thanks for sharing
@@mugi_c4420What part of the Biden administration would send the company problematic tweets and then the company would handle it says no government involvement? You ah e to be deliberately misrepresenting what the files say to even say such a thing.
@@meowser1905 bullshit. Twitter kept up childporn because said child was now 18+ when he made the take down request. He had to use legal means to take it down. Twitter will try to justify anything they want to be kept up. CP or anti trump shit.
@@NiceShark420 imagine thinking any Republican or trump supporter likes Kushner lmao. We basically solely blame him for trumps bad policy changes towards the end of his term. Talk to more republicans dude
@@alex-zx7yt Who said anything about liking Kushner? Why does advocating for equality elicit negative assumptions from you? Are you so far right that middle ground looks left? Stop talking to solely to Republicans dude, some people don't care and just want accountability. Please clarify your response because it seems you're deflecting away from Kushner, which is a defense mechanism and manipulation strategy meant to protect him. Just like anyone using "drugs and porn" is with Biden. If it's true not one Republican likes him, why deflect? It seems your argument is we should investigate a president's son due to business dealings with global adversaries, but not investigate a president's son because "nO oNe LiKeS hIm" even though he had business dealings with global adversaries.
The laptop was never “hacked”, the laptop was abandoned by hunter at which point the contractual agreement he signed allotted the ownership of the laptop to the repair store he brought it to. I.e he basically gave it to the repair shop by failure of picking it up, at which point the data was discovered.
The repair store owns the laptop but it doesn’t own the software on the computer. This is such a dogshit argument by biased conservatives. If I left my laptop at a repair store they don’t own my credit card info, my steam account or my dick picks on said laptop.
Bro I don’t give a shit about a laptop or PC unless it’s mine. I don’t understand why so many bumpkins scream Eureka whenever they talk about Joe Biden’s son and his gizmos and gadgets.
I’m not sure how he wants the govt to regulate it in ways that won’t be bias as hell to the current ruling party outside of banning politics all together lol
@@dreddscott3873 ah yes the freedom argument, because being "free" in the american rethoric is being subjugated at will by those who have more money than them. but hey it's fine because whatever reality's different from this one is complete mao-style communism.
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None of this is surprising, per se. BUT people forget that social media platforms like Twitter have governmental protections because they are supposed to be "platforms". If Twitter employees are censoring content, and moderating things so that only ONE side is presented - they are no longer platforms. They should be stripped of their immunities. At that point they are no different then a news organization (i.e. they can be held responsible for their actions). The whole point of social media immunity, was so that service providers were not held liable for what their customers do. They are just providing a service, and if someone wants to do something illegal on that - the responsibility falls on the individual. But based on all these leaked files, Twitter has stepped far beyond being a service provider, and are actively shaping what people see and don't see. They decide who is allowed to be heard and not heard - on a completely arbitrary basis. The "this is what free speech is" argument falls apart legally (under California state law), as Twitter must provide every user with the same rules/outlines. And if a user breaks those rules, Twitter is within their right to ban. But what these leaks again have shown, is that Twitter was banning people who didn't break any of the rules listed. There is actually a lawsuit going on right now where a journalist WON their first pre-trial against Twitter, for de-platforming him for reasons not listed in the Twitter policy/rules. He used California state law (where Twitter is located), and was told his case could proceed for discrimination. Basically Twitter asks users to agree to their Terms of Service, but according to California - Twiter must also abide by their terms and service as well (or else Twitter has violated their contract with you). So I wonder if that case sets a precedent, if we will see more lawsuits popping up. Also crazy that the Biden admin asked Twitter to ban regular citizens, and have regular people's tweets deleted. I wonder if thats a violation of their first Amendment Right? A sitting President is literally asking a tech company to de-platform, even tho those accounts didnt break any rules. That is pretty wild. I DOUBT that would happen tho. But still something to think about.
None of this is even news. I remember reading articles about this when it happened. Many sites, channels, etc chose not to cover it, because the sources were not reputable and the claims were even more wild than the usual for the time. When those media outlets asked for any proof at all before running with the story, they got the run around and a lot of “you’ll see”.
The problem with people making the comment about how the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private companies is this - both sides of the aisle, Democrats AND Republicans - were requesting and receiving help from Twitter to delete posts! If Twitter was doing it on their own, that would be just fine... but the SECOND someone in the Federal government requests it and it happens it IS breaking the 1st Amendment! That is textbook governmental suppression of free speech, and there;s already case law of this precise thing with newspapers suppressing stories at the behest of governmental authority and the government losing! The U.S. government is about to get its pants sued off by a LOT of people...
what no way the mega rich corparation regulated speach on their private platform. Geroge orwin 19189 i cant say the n word on twitter plss elon pls make it so i can say the n word
@@loganrogers4560 While the younger republicans tend to be better, most of the older ones are every bit as much of the problem as their democrat peers. Good luck with your journey though, I got to go through mine in 2014, and for years following everything felt back-to-front and upside-down; describing the experience as disorienting doesn't really do it justice.
@@waffleswafflson3076 People who are fearful of "big government" don't know the tactics to protect themselves from government overreach. I.e. organization and protest.
@@waffleswafflson3076 corporations have power BECAUSE of big government. government is a tool. if the tool is not as effective, their power is slightly mitigated.
@@dancemattdanceify The United States is the freest country in the world in terms of being free from government control. You have the right to protest. You have the right to free speech. You have the right to criticize the government, etc. What the US government refuses to do is crack down on negligent and dangerous corporate behaviour because people like you argue that that's "big government trying to control you."
@@ILoveGrilledCheese i think the problem is they think it a bias from big tech besides the revenge porn it had more information that should at least be investigated
@@ILoveGrilledCheese the issue isn't twitter took it down, the issue is the method of the reporting that dnc/biden staff could email contacts in Twitter office to directly get rid of content. You need to report said content on the app. Thus govt officials had direct access to remove content. If biden reported something on twitter and twitter reviewed the report and said no is different from biden emailing someone who works in twitter to get them to remove it. Its the method of how it was reported that matters just as much as who was doing it. If amon emailed twitter to remove memes of him, its unethical not illegal, if its govt actors who do it, then ever ask is done with the weight of the govt behind it.
This streamer guy is Jewish (last name GOLD). He’s falsely claiming that the removed posts were merely “Hunters D pics”. False. It was proof hunter received 5 mil from China, etc
This guy is also trying to Jewsplain why Hunter Biden receiving 5 million bucks from a communist Chinese military company, is somehow OK, because he “had a hard life”.
The insantity of people thinking the answer to everything is more goverment. Must have your head in the sand to not see all the regulatory capture that goes on.
@@humanbean3 Yeah and they will also just completely censor the internet and hide stories about Corruption, Fraud, Political Assassinations, or anything else our "benevolent" institutions are doing wrong.
@@humanbean3 Politician is the only job where you can use the problems you create to gain even more power and control. A buisnessman makes loses and goes out of buisness for making errors. One has incentive serve the people the other doesn't.
The videos of him on it are still his ?? What are you talking about ?? You steal my laptop what happens? you don't just get to claim everything on it as yours and post videos of me form it online you think your going to jail or not??? We both know the answer
@@Getorix No their not.. so by your logical my credit info and personal info on that laptop are now yours ??No matter how much you want it too be lol law disagrees with you
@@pg9072 actually, he signed a contract with the repairman stating that all data and physical property would transfer ownership if he neglected to pay for the repair and claim the laptop. P.S. It was far longer than 30 days. The repair owner kept it for YEARS before turning it over to the FBI because he was concerned about what data it had. It was in the possession of the FBI. Please do research. Furthermore, I'd say this repairman did his duty, as outlined in Delaware's laws (where this happened); mandating that criminal evidence (like child pornography) are disclosed to the proper authorities. "A customer’s Fourth Amendment rights against warrantless searches and seizures wouldn’t necessarily apply if the repair people were to happen upon evidence through the course of routine servicing and turn it over to law enforcement on their own volition. .. One could argue that fact that the hard drive was reportedly abandoned may also give law enforcement more leeway to search it, though the question of how the Fourth Amendment applies to discarded personal electronic devices still hasn’t been settled by the courts." There’s no law that criminalizes a computer repair facility for doing something different from what they promised or mistreating your data or misusing it, or copying it in a way you weren’t expecting.
I know what state he is from and i am from the south too so i understand his beliefs a bit.. just from living somewhere similar.. and yeah, but unlike the news he doesn't put a bias on it.. he just delivers and share his opinion on it.. which is totally fine.. and makes him a better source than any leftist or rightist media.. because they will always spin.. asmon 'wipes his own a**' as it were so no one can tell him what to and what not to say.. unless it violates a standard..
Asmons take that the government should regulate social media it's so fucking dumb, man. Why the fuck would you trust the fucking government to take care of something so important? I mean, all governments will ALWAYS use the power they have in their favor and that doesn't mean It's necessarily good for the people. It almost never is! Governments never have your interests at heart, they'll always have theirs first, you second. I have no idea why Asmon trusts governments to do the right thing knowing full well all the bad shit they've done in the past. It really boggles my mind.
@@Preacher_. good point. The president of the United States has been proven to lie to your face, this administration has been proven to violate people’s 1st amendment rights, and you, being an establishment shill, make a wiener joke. This is a real story and it goes much further than a crackhead son of the president
@@Murderbits ??? You mean like Edward Snowden who is now in hiding from the US government, the guy that leaked Chelsea Manning's info to wiki leaks, or Julian Assange that is *literally in prison*? Everyone involved with the handling of that data leak was hunted down, put into prison - including Chelsea Manning, though she got out - and so on. That's a completely different level of data, though. The Snowden/Manning leaks on wikileaks were war crimes, footage of civilian murders/genocide by US forces, etc; the Hunter Biden laptop stuff is literally revenge porn and footage/photos of him doing drugs, as well as a bunch of personal messages sent between him and his lawyer and business partners (all of which were already circulated through the news over a year ago). You can't seriously be comparing Hunter Biden's shitty life decisions with the US government covering up war crimes in good faith, they're not even remotely comparable.
@@lesterparker1594 Or maybe we don't care about your concern trolling. You only seem to care about all of those things when it's the democrats doing it but would cheer the right doing the same.
Just like other issues, the story is being spun to focus on the "how did this story get handled, and why it was bad" and glazing over the content of what the story told. This happened with the Snowden leaks, and Hillary's e-mail leaks. The content of what was leaked is the important bit - and in the case of Hunter's laptop the content showed something MUCH worse than illicit drug use.
@@humanbean3 t's a way to make the story feel "out in the open" while disregarding the worst parts to protect the desired party. Snowden was about him "betraying" the country by leaking and not about the government violating the 4th amendment. Hillary's e-mails was about Wikileaks, Russian "hacking" (unproved, still) and not about the media co-ordination it showed, up to and including her getting presidential debate questions in advance.
@@humanbean3 because they dont want to. I have watched thos whole situation for years. If it hurts the Democrats they just ignore it when it is staring them the face twerking. It's a refusal to just tell the truth.
You know, people say freedom of speech does not extend to private companies and I'd say "fair" but that only extends insofar as governing entities do not have any "under the table" influence on these private companies' platform. By which point I would say it betrays the spirit of the first amendment, even if doesn't break the first amendment by technicality.
At the time Twitter was a publicly traded companie, so im not even sure i´d call it private. not to mention that a twitter message is a public statment and should be treated as such
@@Meirnon No, what I’m saying is that the *american government* is betraying the spirit of the first amendment by having government entities influence what can and can’t be said there, specifically stuff that would under other circumstances be protected under the first amendment. Considering that this is a game played by both parties, the fault lies on both parties.
@@urazoe8240 Being publicly traded is not the same as being a public service / being owned by the public. If you look at what was asked to be taken down (thanks to waybackmachine) it becomes pretty clear that posts were taken down because they had dick pics in them... and that's illegal under revenge porn laws.
@@SirePuns I mean, what if what was taken down was content that was illegal? Should the government be allowed to lean on a private company to take down revenge porn?
Pretty sure he meant making it illegal for shit like this to happen. Like a law saying people can't just go to companies like Twitter and have them censor stuff that hurts them or their public image. Apparently tho people just hate the government so much they couldn't think that you can use the government to control the government 🤦
if you actually use the wayback machine to look at the tweets the Biden team asked Twitter to remove, they were essentially all j photos of Hunter Biden's dick or Hunter's nudes, since those are examples of revenge porn which is against Twitter TOS. Matt Taibi explicitly states that neither the Biden team nor the US govt was involved in the censoring of the NY Post story, and rather it was a poor decision made by an outsourced moderation team, w/o Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey even knowing at first, and Dorsey reversed the decision after he found out. That's about it. Also Matt Taibi failed to show bias in moderation, the only evidence he showed was that Twitter employees gave more money to Democrat candidates than Republican candidates since a lot of Twitter employees live in California, but that doesn't actually prove that Twitter staff listened to requests from Democrats more than requests from Republicans. that's not to say there couldn't be a bias in moderation, but Taibi failed to prove it
We must stop recognizing the term. Don't even address it any more. Act as if we can't hear it when said. Make it like a small child's imaginary friend🤣. If applied evenly, not selectively, it puts every crime investigator in that same club. When court day comes, simply point out the fact that their primary source for evidence is a known, and only associates with known, conspiracy theorist(s), and motion the evidence is bias and gas lighting, and must be canceled🤣. ...........(when we ALL know the real threat are those Jewish space lasers)
@@freestateofjones5042 fun fact: Israel does have a Laser that shoots into space Another fun fact: The US had one for almost 30 years now, new to technology huh?
@@BeepBop322 well just bless your heart🤣. How did you know? I flunked my cave drawing class. Had trouble making fire to create the ash I needed for a pigment....dagnabit, I guess I'll get it by the next pole flip....sir
@@mukamuka0 Are you even reading my comment? You're question makes no sense, because he doesn't take office until 2021. I'm going to repeat this again since you're having trouble comprehending. Joe Biden wasn't in government. So this isn't a 1st amendment issue. And regardless, Revenge porn is illegal and against Twitter TOS. What part of this do you not understand?
Twitter was deleting stuff for governments since a long time, and everybody knows about that. Elon Musk twitter is still doing this right know, he also deleted tons of tweet that followed the TOS just cause he didn’t liked itx
@@ajohndaeal-asad6731 The story was that Hunter Biden left it at the repair shop to get repaired and after not showing up after a long time to pick it up it's legally abandoned. The repair guy opened it up saw what was on it and backed up all the materials to an external drive before he contacted and handed it over to the FBI which they confirmed. After the FBI did nothing with all the sick material on the laptop he handed the story/material over to the NYT.
The people saying "this is not that big of a deal" are the reason these clowns get away w whatever they want. It's like a spoiled kid running around acting like a little jerk while his mom sits there watching and says "isn't he such an angel 😇"
He doesn’t live at the Whitehouse nor has he been given a position in the administration that he is wholly and hideously unqualified for, that would bother me so much more.
It’s the typical “your side is being attacked so reframe the situation as not a big deal”. We already knew social media companies were heavily biased to the left. But these “files” show them working directly with the Biden administration to affect the election results 😂. You can’t really defend this if you’re “on the left”. So you gotta downplay it and throw in the occasional “not as bad as January 6th”.
the suppression of a story about a presidential candidates son having a computer full of degeneracy by the largest social media platform of all time "isnt that big of a deal"
Its because people are so stubborn that they refuse to admit they were wrong. I am gay but I hate democrats, and in the LGBT community EVERYONE supports the democrats regardless of what crimes they commit. This generation is brainwashed.
The first doesnt apply to private companies, true. However if a government official is using a private company to conduct their political business, then it does apply. As the Government official/partisan is now misusing their position, influence peddling is illegal.
@@LTrotsky21stCentury bro we literally live in an age of influencers. Everything is influenced from all sides, always has been. Just like Asmon said in another vid, growing up the right did this shit too. The files even said Trump tried doing the same thing. It's all corrupt man
Any private company should be forced by the state to go public, if what they're making or providing can in any way be considered a monopoly and/or considered essential for modern living, or if the barrier of entry to create a competing service or product is so utterly high that it's effectively impossible for competition to arise.
I understand things need to be regulated. But I find that regulation of free speech is very dangerous territory for the government to be involved in. It risks the ruling party being able to suppress their opponents. I would very much prefer the government not be involved in censorship and regulation of speech. At the very least, it should be done by a non-partisan third party.
As much as I don't like any incendiary speech that propels on these mediums, but I think it just fails if theres just ANY human involvement (extending to what people set AI to do too is included) could and likely to eventually be abused. Its more on if society can develop ethics and law to keep pace with more and more technology being integrated into our daily lives.
"I am very much worried about social media being like way too powerful and way too uh way too influential and not having any sort of governmental oversight." If you're worried about this, I've got some pretty bad news for you.
This is a great comment because that is a truth we're facing that needs some deep, critical thinking and likely innovation to fix. Not exactly easy to regulate an industry with government policy and oversight when the very nature of that relationship with the government is this complicated and full of collusion. I think you could make a decent argument for simply outlawing censorship, but man does that use a broad stroke that could have some sweeping consequences.
This is a masv nothing burger, it's wild how republicans are quick to condemn them yet quickly glossed over the 2020 insurrection. i would love it if you could point out what exactly was so wrong
When you have power, I expect you to treat me equally and respect my rights because that is your ideal. But when I have power I will suppress you and take away your rights because that is MY IDEAL - leftists
How do people argue this is big nothing when there's literal transcript of inner discussion about censoring content that wouldn't stand even with their own policies
@@masterofreality230 the same people saying "muh private company" are the same ones whining about how Elon is running Twitter now. It's so transparently hypocritical.
People rightly say there is nothing big here* because the internal conversation happened after Twitter started taking down revenge porn at the request of a campaign. The conversation was to clarify how they would handle different types of requests from campaigns going forward. * Nothing big at least from the Biden (private citizen) side. The requests coming from the Trump White House may be a very different matter legally speaking.
19:43 "I'm 100% for regulation of social media" Sadly, this is happening in Brazil, and look at what came from it. The problem is that it's impossible to find someone 100% honest to regulate things, it's always "their point of view", or in the worst case, it's "whatever they want". It often hurts more than it helps. As long as the posts aren't breaking any laws, leave the regulation to the private company itself. The private company may not be the ideal group to regulate social media, but it's the best we can get.
The biggest problem with SECTION 230 is that it needs to be properly enforced. If they were acting purely as a Platform then they would be able to pass legal responsibility for posts to the one who posted. With them enacting editorial control over what content can be posted, and increasing/decreasing visibility of specific content they are acting as a PUBLISHER and then would be forced to follow the same rules as Newspapers and magazines.
@@helmholtzthemulewatson4763 Technically yes, lawfully no. A Good analogy is that they're simply security to a parlor. Any words spoken by the guests can't be held against said parlor. And if the guests are no longer welcomed they can be removed without recourse. There can be arguements made that they SHOULD be held as publishers. However that of course would be outweighed in the interest of Free Speech. Since higher standards of moderation and control would be necessary if held as publishers. It's really not a dull thought to think they should be held accountable as publishers, it's just one that doesn't consider the consequences if they are.
Same rules as newspapers ? like lie and slander freely who is not in your tribe /established political class / or for badthink since most ppl cant fight against you ...
@@MrOssyan same rules as in they can be sued for libel slander and fall under FCC guidelines and regulations Currently social media has it both ways, editorializing and promoting the content that aligns with their interests, then claiming to merely be a platform to avoid lawsuits and regulations.
"The government commanded the suppression of people speech on Twitter, so we should now let the government regulate Twitter" This is the most braindead take
i think it's a kinda good take. The problem is that social media is protected with false blankant immunity under c230, if the government started to regulate it they would be beholden to the 1st amendment and could get sued if they censored speech, which is why the dems don't want social media regulation.
@@splinte111 lololol what? in the twitter thread, dems were complaining how twitter wasnt regulated enough. section230, says platforms cant act as publishers, meaning, unless content is illegal, its allowed. publishers can decide what is posted cause they can be sued. the issue is social media, claims to be a platform but acts as publisher. nyt, is a publisher, they dont allow anyone to write for them, if you send an email you want posted, they can refuse it, fb, you can post any legal content, conspiracy theories are legal. nyt cant post that cause if they do they can be sued. fb, cant be sued cause they claim your posts are your posts, fb isnt saying flat earth theory is legit cause you posted it. the issue isnt do we need new regulation not, its we have existing regulation and why isnt it enforced. why isnt govt saying twitter/fb/yt took down legal speech and thus has to pay 1B in fines.
@@splinte111 ...So you're actually in favour of fascism then? How can a private entity be beholden to laws ONLY applying to government entities without being owned by the government? S230 literally extends the SAME rights you and I have to private entities online. In fact, S230 protects YOU just as much as it protects the company. Making twitter, and thereby it's users, beholden to the first amendment means that you blocking me, or preventing me from commenting on your facebook feed is also illegal. Is it fair that I get to sue you because you put me in your spam folder? Is it fair that I get to sue you because you deleted my comment off your channel? Is it fair that I get to sue Asmongold for timing me out because I spammed the N-word a million times? Don't pretend to understand what S230 is or the implications of private entities being forced to follow the first amendment even means when all it really means to you is... I get to do whatever I want and YOU'RE not allowed to do whatever you want. You want to be able to sue people for being mean, but when the tables turn on you, you'll be crying and whining about it.
Yeah it's crazy, the institution that is built on having the public deciding how it is run should regulate entities that the public have absolutely no power on how they are run. So insane that one would think that.
The laptop is not hacked information. He abandoned that laptop in a computer repair shop, it’s not his anymore. The new owner has every right to do whatever they want with it.
Uh-huh. We had Hunter Biden saying he believes a laptop could have been stolen of his, but not that he left it at a repair shop. The guy said something akin to: "He said he was Hunter Biden." rather than saying he was specifically Hunter Biden.
@@avengemybreath3084 Well, there are a few different factors to it. For one he may not have passworded the account itself but there may have been passwords on folders/files, he may have had a general password and the above or nothing at all, and seeing all the shit that has come out it's probably option 3.
To those that say: "Its a private company, First Amendment does not apply" OK. Do they apply the Terms of Service equally to all parties, or are they selective? If they are selective (and there is proof that they are) then the company can be sued for violation of the contract they have made with its users (ie. Terms of Service)
You are missing the point here Zac, its not about him smoking crack who gives a shit about that, its about the rampant incest in the family, the chinese business dealings using gvt funds and influence, dealings in Ukraine too, its about him getting away with all that shit while also getting book deals for talking about his crimes on TV and being praised for it, not to talk about him being an "artist" knowing everything else he probably uses his paintings for money laundering, but im not sure about that one 100%.
So what, Ivanka and Kushner did the same while holding public office. Hunter is not and has never been a government official. Ivanka got a deal with China and also sold books. Kushner just got 2B from the Saudis. If you are that upset then don't be biased because the Trump family has done the same and profited more off daddy's name. I would argue theirs is worse because some of that profiteering was done while holding a government position
@@insanittiez4860 he legit used his fathers position and got personal deals with foreign governments, also not to mention while trump was in office we didnt have inflations a war and looming ww3.
Right! They never believed it was hacked. That was the only excuse they could use. They had no others. They even discuss if they could defend that claim and internally determines it was BS. But who cares...they have immunity.
Asmon's regulation strawman at the end was dumb. None of the other shit he said was regulated is in the Bill of Rights, unlike freedom of speech. Freedom of the press is also protected, and if there is evidence a politician TOLD twitter to censor something, then that's a big deal.
This comment is dumb. A politician sending an email isn't a law. US freedom of speech means that the government cannot make laws to suppress you. Twitter can do whatever it wants, because it is not the government; if you were standing on a soapbox rambling and a random passerby decided he didn't like what you were saying he could push you off and physically hold your mouth closed. That does not impact your free speech in any way, because random passerby's are not the government. You might not like how this works, but now, possibly for the first time in your life, you actually do know how it works
After more than 10 years of shit inside Twitter and now the "machine" goes hard against those who dare to speack about it, thats scary AF. For those who didnt know a single thing about how dirty the Staff was: welcome to the real world.
Right? Crazy they worked for trump until 2020 shit was nuts and they didn't cover any of the shady deals Ivanka and Jared and Don JR made over 10 billion from China Russia and the saudis and were worried about one retard with a laptop lmfao
He left his laptop at a store to be fixed and while trying to recover the computers information the store owner saw all the information. He could not get Hunter to come get it so he gave it to the FBI and then told news outlets about it so it was not hacked.
@@joeevett9007 No, the laptop was stolen. Why would Hunter Biden leave a laptop somewhere with confidential emails/files and never return to get it? Think about that. He said that the contents were real, just wasn't him that went to the store.
@Joe Evett Not being charged with a crime does not mean a crime was not committed. Widespread fraud was responsible for the2008 financial crash, how many people were charged with crimes for it?
@@darksaint0124 store owner had a pick up policy. It was something around 90 days or you forfeit the item. Payment due on pick up, item is held as collateral. this wasn't stolen, when hunter biden, who shares a bank account with his dad, left his laptop he forfeited the laptop to the owner.
@@nickkemp4979it was close election and this was bug because it shows corruption in family circle of president to be. Election is all about momentum because R/D is almost 50/50 in supports, just whoever got more support from their usual party and some independents.
Government should have direct access to Social Media moderation. - A quote that only someone who always lived under the save umbrella of 1a could ever even think it's a good idea.
Its a global platform darkeon. This isnt a matter about speech. Its a matter about business. Does twitter want to conduct business in other countries? Then they have to follow the laws of all those countries. Its a compromise. The alternative is to censor everything to those countries.
@@zanido9073 Like I said, it takes someone so very sheltered to believe that the government wouldn't abuse it, given the chance - like PLENTY of governments already do worldwide.
@@Darkeonable Social media companies are bigger and in some ways more powerful than governments, I can not say that I care about their right to censor people more than I care about the peoples right to free speech.
There is something here but not what everyone thinks it is. Everyone just ignoring the nugget that The thread confirms the Whitehouse under Trump censored Tweets but immediately distracts everyone with donations by Twitter employees... Lol
@@jry0511 Ah yes, the latest thing he totally did (Just trust us.) and wasn't fabricated at all. He's sure to be arrested (this time) any second now. Annnnnnyyyyy second now... lol
@@MikeAvoo August 2021. 3 Rus jets were confirmed to have flown over the airspace and at least one flew over the island of Gotland. I was there, about to board a bus and what I assume to be a mig 21 flew directly my and my ex's head just some feet above the treetops. We heard nothing until it was directly over our heads. She dropped screaming and crying cause it scared the absolute shiz out of her. I say mig 21 because it had a flat-ish nose from where I saw it. We who live here have regular contact with the stationed military, and this was about the time we started to receive more stationed troops. It was later confirmed by both close acquaintances of mine and the local newspaper. I'm also sure if you did some digging, you will find some official reports. I get it- it's the internet, and random comments looks like NPCs and bots from time to time. But stuff that you will never hear about happens on a daily. No one talks on the global news about the murders and crime ramp-up we've been having here the past few years aside from Malmö being full of gangs with guns and grenades. No one's talking about the massive drug-trade that teens that don't want to work are falling into. Tonnes and tonnes of drugs and alcohol being smuggled on public transport ferries. Massive grow-ops ran by the farmers. Kids openly mugging you in public at atms. As said, this place is small. Barely 70k people during the summers- and everyone knows everyone. But we got like max 10 cops. But ye, the jet thing is real, and has been going on for awhile.
...Dems also knew this. The people you're talking about took what was public knowledge and then turned it into "And they're using their power to fuck kids and be lizard people behind our backs". That's literally the inner workings of conspiracy theorists. They take public information, claim only THEY know about it, and then make some other wild bullshit conclusions on the back end that can't be proven. The idea is that idiots like you do research and find out the public information to confirm the person isn't making shit up, and then when you can't find the other bullshit they made up, you think "Oh shit, they're hiding it from me and this guy is some super smart brilliant hacker man with insider information" even though they're manipulating you and betting on you being too stupid to have critical thinking skills. Here's an example: "X company was caught dumping contaminates in the water which have devastating ecological and environmental effects. These chemicals are proven to affect genetics and future generations genetics" This part is 100% true... then they go "Know what else they say is genetics? Homosexuality. What this company is doing is dumping chemicals in the water to turn the fucking frogs gay to push the insane agenda that homosexuality is normal in the animal kingdom even though they're forcing them to be gay with chemicals. This is the liberal agenda... THEY WANT TO FEED CHEMICALS TO YOUR KIDS TO MAKE THEM GAY!!". Bottom line, we knew the government asked companies to take shit down... hell, zuckerberg admitted as much on a podcast with Joe rogan more than 3 months ago.... That doesn't mean gay agenda lizards spraying chemicals through airplane trails is suddenly true.
Whenever someone says "social media should be regulated", I ask "what regulation exactly?". People never get into the specifics. Democrats, for example, want regulation to stop misinformation and hate speech. Meanwhile Republicans want regulation to prevent social media companies from "censoring" speech. And how could you do this without infringing on the first amendment either way? (censorship and compelled speech).
Not that I disagree with you but I just wanted to mention that Freedom of speech shouldn’t apply to private companies. Regulating companies is fine of course, you don’t want to have child p*** floating around obv. But making companies allow everything they see is stupid as hell. the first amendment only really applies when the government is directly censoring something or when someone is speaking out in public. So why would a private entity need to comply with something like freedom of speech?
I was raped in the army and ended up getting thrown our for smoking Crack. I was 20 and didn't know how to process it. I continued to ruin my life for 15 years and I'm just now getting it together. Being rich doesn't give you more opportunities to ruin your life. It gives you more opportunities to get it together when you are done ruining your own life.
You can still ruin your life while being rich. But you'll take bunch of people down with you, and it'll take waaaaaay more work on your part rather than unfortunate chance to ruin your life.
@@pillepalle3133 Corrupt business deals with Chinese communists and profits going to the "big guy" = Joe Biden - Also Hunter saved his dads number as Pedo-Peter
@@pillepalle3133 I would like to know too, I have yet to find anyone specify the incriminating things connected to Joe Biden. A lot of outrage from conservatives yet no substantive reason to be outraged, but I would like to know what they they mean by the incriminating evidence.
took me way too much scrolling down past all the main stream media pushed by youtube to fill a narative until i found this, the first video i could find by a normal person on the topic.
I would imagine that government regulation of social media would just allow the government more control over what to censor? Is that really a good solution - that's the scandal in the first place lol.
So we were all correct, stigmatized and called conspiracy theorists but ultimately right. The funniest part is that people will not go like "oh man they were right about everything, let me apologize and perhaps look at the world a bit differently!". Nope, people will double down on the stupidity, just watch.
What is this “everything” you’re talking about? Twitter is still full of right wing lunatics spewing baseless accusations and allegations 24/7 about elections and democrats. Removing revenge porn is not that crazy because literally anybody would’ve done that if it’s within their power and private companies don’t want to get sued into oblivion.
6:30 he has enough resources around him to not be a crackhead. He was also getting kicked back millions of dollars from Barisma for being the VPs son. I don't have empathy, as any pictures of me would take 2 years to get taken off any of these platforms, and they censored news outlets from even sharing the information.
You can't compare regulation of social media companies (in broad terms) to regulation of food, power, transport.. Those are not comparable. Also, would be nice to elaborate what kind of regulation are You for; what would that entail
The bill of rights are restrictions on what the federal government can do...Jefferson described it as "shackles on government". Not saying it was right or ok for Twitter to do what they did but we have to be careful when we're talking about anything private
@@Niterayde > A private citizen requesting a private company to moderate itself isn’t collusion. It’s not a crime in any way. > Sedition against whom exactly? Seditious conspiracy involves plots to violently overthrow elected officials. Censoring stories on Twitter would not qualify. > “Protecting child predators” isn’t a crime. Actually molesting children is.
@@Hazard0ss No because even the people who claim to want it don't really want it. The thing that is ignored is that conservative social media platforms also curate content. A social media platform for a church does not want people to have the freedom to come in and say whatever they want on their platform. People want to selectively apply it to something like twitter. Go look at the Terms of Service for any "free speech" loving conservative platform and you will find the same assertions of their right to curate and remove content at their own discretion regardless of cause.
@@Hazard0ss no one is mad that Twitter is regulating their speech. The problem is it is a political party colluding with a private company behind the scenes, thwarting their opponent. Due to government being involved. It is in direct conflict with freedom of speech. It would be no different then going to China and listening to government controlled media. If you can’t see the problem with that. Do some research and critical thinking.
@@zanido9073 The problem is you can't force people to stay on a platform that allows "free speech" if there feeds are constantly full of misinformation and hate speech they are going to leave just like what happened to face book. It is only big because people want to be there if the majority leave it becomes like truth social and the point becomes moot. Making special rules to try and force people to hang out with you on the most popular platforms is nonsense.
"politics is everyone cheating and doing everything they can to gain and keep power" "let's have them regulate the most powerful social media platforms!" -asmongold
Why would you bring up the 2020 election as the catalyst for election shenanigans when another political party screamed for 4 years that the 2016 election was rife with those same issues and as a matter of fact every time a Republican wins they scream shenanigans
The problem with government regulation is simple, it allows whoever is in power to directly control (ministry of truth style) everything that social media is allowed to do and who's opinions are allowed to be heard...and not face uneven enforcement of the law for. Equating regulating freedom of speech to things like manufacturer safety regulations doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You can point to a problem like the design and function of a car's safety features and objectively say, 'these features need to be standard and always be in working order before leaving the factory' Free speech is not so obvious due to different people's subjective opinions on what should and should not be allowed, especially when both sides like to move the goal posts on classification on what's harmful/disinformation/hateful ECT.
I mean isn't that true about anything that the government controls, like if you break the law you get thrown in jail so is better that the government doesn't inforce those laws because laws can be changed by the ones on power at any time
We have laws against hate speech or incitement. Why do we need soy boy and blue haired cuunts censoring Americans. Pretty sure the courts can handle it.
@@Hazard0ss Bro I'll rather take my chances with private companies than government, because private companies have to make money. If they start regulating too much and turn the website into shit they will make less money which means, there is an incentive to make platform better. I trust in capitalism to figure this shit out. Government gives no fucks if people like the platform or not, they can't go bust or even care about financials, so there is no incentive for them to make platform better. Besides at least people like Elon Musk doesn't take orders from Claus Schwab from WEF lmao
@@hamm8934 if people aren't happy with regulations on twitter, they will stop using twitter which means less money for twitter. That's not going to increase their profits if people dislike twitter. Are you dumb?
Social Media, to an extent, does need to be regulated to ensure that nothing nefarious is going on such as the distribution of child pornography, etc. But beyond child pornography and perhaps calls to physical violence, harassment, etc..I believe beyond that what should be regulated gets more complicated and muddy. I personally believe that as long as you're not breaking any laws, people should be able to say what they want and if people don't like it, then they're free to use the tools that exists on the platform to decide who they want to see, what conversations they want to participate in, etc. As long as people have an out, people should be able to say whatever the fuck they want. Just my two cents.
regulation means they will make it political. If you say something that is different from government narrative, you get banned. If you don't support the climate change narrative or maybe you think the vaccines are fake, you get banned for misinformation. Whatever narrative is currently being pushed and if anybody is against that narrative, they get silenced. That's basically Stalinist Russia but globally
Cool when you buy a sever and start hosting a forum be sure to apply those rules in fact thats a thing its called 4chan. The part people are missing is these are private spaces owned by companies they make the rules not the first amendment. agree or disagree with twitter they were at least a one time run in a semi democratic fashion in the sense that decisions were made by a board of directors and not a single person. Elon Musk Has brought totalitarian dictatorship to twitter and morons are out here calling it a win for freedom. Humanity has lost the ability for independent thought.
@@lizardKingCDXX the board of directors of twitter were not elected by people. Those were hired by some guy who had the same views on everything which means "a board" is essentially just 1 person if they all have the same views on things
@@bonsailup The big deal about Hunter's laptop wasn't the content but the censorship. And the content people did care about was his shady business dealings, not his naked pictures. Bringing them up a justification for the blanket censorship of the laptop is incredibly dishonest. The laptop did not implicate his father in anything but it would have damaged his campaign. It was censored because Twitter and many in the media wanted him to win. This revenge porn justification is pure cope.
@@Pyryp2 watched the whole vid and now with more context your right, censoring the article is where the issue is, its annoying that more people didn't talk about that, i think every one agrees with them deleting the revenge porn tweets but seems like that's what had the main focus over all.
@@Pyryp2 his father was somewhat implicated though, with the "10% to the big guy", his dad using foreign aid money to Ukraine as extortion to get the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was looking into his son getting a shady deal with a job on the board of an Ukrainian energy company (Burisma), and letting him Use government planes to make business deals in China. It implies both of them imho. It's just more vague with Joe.
Lol you’re delusional. It’s not everything because nothing will happen from this. Elon is just looking for attention and wants people to stop abandoning twitter
@@christopher7763 Twitter is at a all time high of users. You are delusional, this was conspiracy years ago and they blamed Russia. Good one though lol
It wasn't first time for global instant messages, you had AOL IMs you had Yahoo, had ICQ, had a shit ton of instant messengers back in the 90s well before tweeter existed.
6:56 The village theory-If a person grows up in a village that raids, they will become(and quite proudly)murderers/rapists/thief's.Once we INTERNALISE this, the empathy will really radiate outwards.
Damn I saw this tweet pop up the other day and it intrigued me, but I still didn't actually read the thread 💀💀 what's wrong with me that I don't follow through on my own intrigue
Not having empathy for rich people is much different than not having empathy for public servants who made a fortune selling your future to the highest bidder..
@@Hazard0ss but we don't have net neutrality, it was shot down by that idiot with the giant coffee mug who also tried to say states couldn't override the FCC. Mozilla took it to the courts and got that overturned so that states can enforce net neutrality regulations, but as of now we have no federal net neutrality regulations like you're describing. So nothing is currently stopping them from doing that nonsense, they're just weary to do so because when they tried (verizon) they were taken to court and they know a simple change in presidential admins can get them back to title ii status, thus being able to be federally regulated under net neutrality laws.
@@masterofreality230 I was still a youngling but I'm sure it must have been hell. We take too many things for granted. We download apps from the app store and assume that they are all malware free.
To brush this off as revenge porn is moronic. We all know it wasn't about that. They screamed that the content of the laptop is russian disinfo while knowing that to be a lie.
what was in the laptop and why is that never the story? Ive only halfway followed this story but it seems like the headlines never have to do with what was actually on the laptop
Matt Taibi is literally a Kremlin propagandist so I mean.. yeah it kind of is Russian disinformation. Or at least framed information operating under a lot of motivated reasoning.
Surface level : loads of amateur porn featuring hunter biden, copious amounts of drugs and hookers (allegedly some of them underage). Iceberg level : tons of emails confirming ties between president biden and various Ukrainian companies and political figures, tons of corruption, embezzlement of tax dollars, election interference, nepotism and other typical Democrat scandals...
The first amendment absolutely applies when the government is backdooring as social media moderators.
@@freddyfootstomps6557 because they are U.S. companies.
@@freddyfootstomps6557 if you had any morals you wouldn't be asking that question. Lol
yet this reporter said there was no gov involvment lmao so clueless
@@freddyfootstomps6557 "oh _boy , i love when my political bias gets in the way of my morals... gotta justify whatever irregularities the people i don't like denounce_ lul"
Thanks for sharing
@@mugi_c4420What part of the Biden administration would send the company problematic tweets and then the company would handle it says no government involvement? You ah e to be deliberately misrepresenting what the files say to even say such a thing.
If this was trump and one of his kids I guarantee you they would be showing up on their houses and twitter employees houses right now.
You mean if the was trump or his kids it would still be up on Twitter and a matter of “public record”.
@@manofcultura no it'd be taken down because its revenge porn, same as this.
@@meowser1905 wasn't removed for that reason but try to keep up, Kenosha wasn't enough clearly.
@@manofcultura nah you can't just post revenge pron
@@meowser1905 bullshit. Twitter kept up childporn because said child was now 18+ when he made the take down request. He had to use legal means to take it down. Twitter will try to justify anything they want to be kept up. CP or anti trump shit.
Don't care about Hunter's crack problem either, but the corrupt business dealings for his dad however...
Bingo. Anyone bringing up the drugs or porn is trying to deflect from the real issue which is business dealings with our global adversaries
Couldn't agree more. Keep this same energy with all politicians and investigate Kushner, Saudi Arabia and that $2 billion as well
@@NiceShark420 imagine thinking any Republican or trump supporter likes Kushner lmao. We basically solely blame him for trumps bad policy changes towards the end of his term. Talk to more republicans dude
@@alex-zx7yt Who said anything about liking Kushner? Why does advocating for equality elicit negative assumptions from you? Are you so far right that middle ground looks left? Stop talking to solely to Republicans dude, some people don't care and just want accountability.
Please clarify your response because it seems you're deflecting away from Kushner, which is a defense mechanism and manipulation strategy meant to protect him. Just like anyone using "drugs and porn" is with Biden. If it's true not one Republican likes him, why deflect?
It seems your argument is we should investigate a president's son due to business dealings with global adversaries, but not investigate a president's son because "nO oNe LiKeS hIm" even though he had business dealings with global adversaries.
How about the censorship of Americans and the betrayal of our government. Does that interest you ?
The laptop was never “hacked”, the laptop was abandoned by hunter at which point the contractual agreement he signed allotted the ownership of the laptop to the repair store he brought it to. I.e he basically gave it to the repair shop by failure of picking it up, at which point the data was discovered.
The repair store owns the laptop but it doesn’t own the software on the computer. This is such a dogshit argument by biased conservatives. If I left my laptop at a repair store they don’t own my credit card info, my steam account or my dick picks on said laptop.
Yep. That’s why they just threw it under so they could say oh they didn’t know
Bro I don’t give a shit about a laptop or PC unless it’s mine. I don’t understand why so many bumpkins scream Eureka whenever they talk about Joe Biden’s son and his gizmos and gadgets.
@@Archy__ stop poking kids archy
You still can't post people's private nudes online, that's considered revenge porn and is against the law.
15:00 Imagine thinking that government does a better job at content moderation
I’m not sure how he wants the govt to regulate it in ways that won’t be bias as hell to the current ruling party outside of banning politics all together lol
@@mxchump government fusing with corporations is literally fascism lol
You can have it run by a board of equal parties, say 4 dems and 4 Republicans. With major issues needing at least 6 votes.
@@insanittiez4860 you let the government run your life. The rest of us will remain free.
@@dreddscott3873 ah yes the freedom argument, because being "free" in the american rethoric is being subjugated at will by those who have more money than them.
but hey it's fine because whatever reality's different from this one is complete mao-style communism.
Why watch reality TV if you can just watch the US clowning every day?
You can say the same for every country out there lmao. The US just gives you Cort side seating
@@herewegoagain4033 Nah, the US gives us the source
@@smolpp585 Your name is the perfect description of modern day not the US lmao
United States of Clowns is the best reality show ever produced. 🇺🇲🤡
- Openly Corrupt Politicians
- Pedo friendly
- Uneducated & delusional
- Celebritie controlled markets
- Only place where 1+1 is 7
- 3,4 mil civilians death due to war
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Its still slightly scripted too, just like reality TV!
The laptop was not"hacked".
None of this is surprising, per se. BUT people forget that social media platforms like Twitter have governmental protections because they are supposed to be "platforms". If Twitter employees are censoring content, and moderating things so that only ONE side is presented - they are no longer platforms. They should be stripped of their immunities. At that point they are no different then a news organization (i.e. they can be held responsible for their actions).
The whole point of social media immunity, was so that service providers were not held liable for what their customers do. They are just providing a service, and if someone wants to do something illegal on that - the responsibility falls on the individual. But based on all these leaked files, Twitter has stepped far beyond being a service provider, and are actively shaping what people see and don't see. They decide who is allowed to be heard and not heard - on a completely arbitrary basis.
The "this is what free speech is" argument falls apart legally (under California state law), as Twitter must provide every user with the same rules/outlines. And if a user breaks those rules, Twitter is within their right to ban. But what these leaks again have shown, is that Twitter was banning people who didn't break any of the rules listed. There is actually a lawsuit going on right now where a journalist WON their first pre-trial against Twitter, for de-platforming him for reasons not listed in the Twitter policy/rules. He used California state law (where Twitter is located), and was told his case could proceed for discrimination. Basically Twitter asks users to agree to their Terms of Service, but according to California - Twiter must also abide by their terms and service as well (or else Twitter has violated their contract with you).
So I wonder if that case sets a precedent, if we will see more lawsuits popping up. Also crazy that the Biden admin asked Twitter to ban regular citizens, and have regular people's tweets deleted. I wonder if thats a violation of their first Amendment Right? A sitting President is literally asking a tech company to de-platform, even tho those accounts didnt break any rules. That is pretty wild. I DOUBT that would happen tho. But still something to think about.
None of this is even news. I remember reading articles about this when it happened. Many sites, channels, etc chose not to cover it, because the sources were not reputable and the claims were even more wild than the usual for the time.
When those media outlets asked for any proof at all before running with the story, they got the run around and a lot of “you’ll see”.
A legitimate assault on democracy. End stage social rot.
EXACTLY!!
This dude wants the goverment to control social media LMAO
Just goes to show Trust and Safety were every bit their 1984 counterparts.
The problem with people making the comment about how the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private companies is this - both sides of the aisle, Democrats AND Republicans - were requesting and receiving help from Twitter to delete posts!
If Twitter was doing it on their own, that would be just fine... but the SECOND someone in the Federal government requests it and it happens it IS breaking the 1st Amendment! That is textbook governmental suppression of free speech, and there;s already case law of this precise thing with newspapers suppressing stories at the behest of governmental authority and the government losing!
The U.S. government is about to get its pants sued off by a LOT of people...
Beautiful
what no way the mega rich corparation regulated speach on their private platform. Geroge orwin 19189 i cant say the n word on twitter plss elon pls make it so i can say the n word
@@loganrogers4560 While the younger republicans tend to be better, most of the older ones are every bit as much of the problem as their democrat peers.
Good luck with your journey though, I got to go through mine in 2014, and for years following everything felt back-to-front and upside-down; describing the experience as disorienting doesn't really do it justice.
@@loganrogers4560 Congrats fellow right winger.
Asmon: "regulate me harder daddy government"
Nixon signed the clean air act which cut down drastically on the amount of pollution in cities
@@waffleswafflson3076 People who are fearful of "big government" don't know the tactics to protect themselves from government overreach. I.e. organization and protest.
@@nickkemp4979 you can't protest a government this big, you already lost. it's out of control. if they want to crack down on you, you're fucked.
@@waffleswafflson3076 corporations have power BECAUSE of big government. government is a tool. if the tool is not as effective, their power is slightly mitigated.
@@dancemattdanceify The United States is the freest country in the world in terms of being free from government control. You have the right to protest. You have the right to free speech. You have the right to criticize the government, etc. What the US government refuses to do is crack down on negligent and dangerous corporate behaviour because people like you argue that that's "big government trying to control you."
2:33 it wasn’t revenge porn, it was pictures of hunter smoking crack in his underwear from his laptop
Notice how fast the leftist fanboys jumped on the "revenge porn" claims.
That would still fall under that umbrella tbh
@@ILoveGrilledCheese i think the problem is they think it a bias from big tech besides the revenge porn it had more information that should at least be investigated
@@ILoveGrilledCheese the issue isn't twitter took it down, the issue is the method of the reporting that dnc/biden staff could email contacts in Twitter office to directly get rid of content.
You need to report said content on the app. Thus govt officials had direct access to remove content. If biden reported something on twitter and twitter reviewed the report and said no is different from biden emailing someone who works in twitter to get them to remove it.
Its the method of how it was reported that matters just as much as who was doing it. If amon emailed twitter to remove memes of him, its unethical not illegal, if its govt actors who do it, then ever ask is done with the weight of the govt behind it.
@@ILoveGrilledCheese The laptop was surrendered at a shop, this has nothing to do with revenge porn.
Twitter never disappoints to provide us with quality content
If a shitshow is quality content then I guess you're right.
@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly - You do realise that all quality content is a shitshow, right?
@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly It is
This streamer guy is Jewish (last name GOLD). He’s falsely claiming that the removed posts were merely “Hunters D pics”. False. It was proof hunter received 5 mil from China, etc
This guy is also trying to Jewsplain why Hunter Biden receiving 5 million bucks from a communist Chinese military company, is somehow OK, because he “had a hard life”.
The insantity of people thinking the answer to everything is more goverment. Must have your head in the sand to not see all the regulatory capture that goes on.
These people think Kanye will soon be leading the government
@@humanbean3 Yeah and they will also just completely censor the internet and hide stories about Corruption, Fraud, Political Assassinations, or anything else our "benevolent" institutions are doing wrong.
@@humanbean3 Trust in government is inversely correlated with knowledge of history.
@@Chaka421 just because they trust the government more than corporations doesn’t mean they trust the government to begin with.
@@humanbean3 Politician is the only job where you can use the problems you create to gain even more power and control. A buisnessman makes loses and goes out of buisness for making errors. One has incentive serve the people the other doesn't.
Hunter left the laptop for 30 days and it became the repairmans property... u can't hack your own laptop
The videos of him on it are still his ?? What are you talking about ?? You steal my laptop what happens? you don't just get to claim everything on it as yours and post videos of me form it online you think your going to jail or not??? We both know the answer
@@pg9072 right and in most sensible jurisdictions you have to follow privacy laws but the US Constitution does not guarantee privacy at all
@@pg9072 that's exactly what they can do as those videos and photos are now their property by your neglectful forfeiture.
@@Getorix No their not.. so by your logical my credit info and personal info on that laptop are now yours ??No matter how much you want it too be lol law disagrees with you
@@pg9072 actually, he signed a contract with the repairman stating that all data and physical property would transfer ownership if he neglected to pay for the repair and claim the laptop. P.S. It was far longer than 30 days. The repair owner kept it for YEARS before turning it over to the FBI because he was concerned about what data it had. It was in the possession of the FBI. Please do research.
Furthermore, I'd say this repairman did his duty, as outlined in Delaware's laws (where this happened); mandating that criminal evidence (like child pornography) are disclosed to the proper authorities.
"A customer’s Fourth Amendment rights against warrantless searches and seizures wouldn’t necessarily apply if the repair people were to happen upon evidence through the course of routine servicing and turn it over to law enforcement on their own volition. .. One could argue that fact that the hard drive was reportedly abandoned may also give law enforcement more leeway to search it, though the question of how the Fourth Amendment applies to discarded personal electronic devices still hasn’t been settled by the courts."
There’s no law that criminalizes a computer repair facility for doing something different from what they promised or mistreating your data or misusing it, or copying it in a way you weren’t expecting.
what an odd world we live in where my primary source of world news is a wow streamer... and i love it!
I know what state he is from and i am from the south too so i understand his beliefs a bit.. just from living somewhere similar.. and yeah, but unlike the news he doesn't put a bias on it.. he just delivers and share his opinion on it.. which is totally fine.. and makes him a better source than any leftist or rightist media.. because they will always spin.. asmon 'wipes his own a**' as it were so no one can tell him what to and what not to say.. unless it violates a standard..
ikr XD
more reasonable than most msm
You need new sources bud
Anything with an ounce of credibility more than the MSM is fine by me...
The one chatter when Asmon said we should let the government regulate it:
"Black pilled Aware"
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he is part of it, influencer and such...
Never ever give the government power, there A: incompetent, B: Corrupt, or C: evil
@@SkreltNL Ding ding... You even see hes allowed to have the kayne west interview up, even when all others get deleted for it!
@@AceHighAlbion i mean his main gig is on twitch, the leftist cesspool
Him and penguinz0 are the same garbage
Asmons take that the government should regulate social media it's so fucking dumb, man. Why the fuck would you trust the fucking government to take care of something so important? I mean, all governments will ALWAYS use the power they have in their favor and that doesn't mean It's necessarily good for the people. It almost never is! Governments never have your interests at heart, they'll always have theirs first, you second. I have no idea why Asmon trusts governments to do the right thing knowing full well all the bad shit they've done in the past. It really boggles my mind.
Fun fact for this video that needs to be known: IT WAS NOT HACKED MATERIAL. Ted talk over
You're just mad Hunter Brandon has a bigger hog than you :p
@@Preacher_. good point. The president of the United States has been proven to lie to your face, this administration has been proven to violate people’s 1st amendment rights, and you, being an establishment shill, make a wiener joke. This is a real story and it goes much further than a crackhead son of the president
@@Murderbits ??? You mean like Edward Snowden who is now in hiding from the US government, the guy that leaked Chelsea Manning's info to wiki leaks, or Julian Assange that is *literally in prison*? Everyone involved with the handling of that data leak was hunted down, put into prison - including Chelsea Manning, though she got out - and so on.
That's a completely different level of data, though. The Snowden/Manning leaks on wikileaks were war crimes, footage of civilian murders/genocide by US forces, etc; the Hunter Biden laptop stuff is literally revenge porn and footage/photos of him doing drugs, as well as a bunch of personal messages sent between him and his lawyer and business partners (all of which were already circulated through the news over a year ago).
You can't seriously be comparing Hunter Biden's shitty life decisions with the US government covering up war crimes in good faith, they're not even remotely comparable.
@@lesterparker1594 Or maybe we don't care about your concern trolling. You only seem to care about all of those things when it's the democrats doing it but would cheer the right doing the same.
Really, where did they get the passwords? Since it wasn't Hunter Biden who left the laptop...
The amount of times I heard "Yeah I'm not reading that whole thing" and then coming to a conclusion is funny. You skipped some meaty stuff.
juicy and fat meaty stuff
Just like other issues, the story is being spun to focus on the "how did this story get handled, and why it was bad" and glazing over the content of what the story told. This happened with the Snowden leaks, and Hillary's e-mail leaks. The content of what was leaked is the important bit - and in the case of Hunter's laptop the content showed something MUCH worse than illicit drug use.
@@humanbean3 t's a way to make the story feel "out in the open" while disregarding the worst parts to protect the desired party.
Snowden was about him "betraying" the country by leaking and not about the government violating the 4th amendment.
Hillary's e-mails was about Wikileaks, Russian "hacking" (unproved, still) and not about the media co-ordination it showed, up to and including her getting presidential debate questions in advance.
Everything you believe is a lie
Ah yes the important content bits they glossed over like hunter bidens fat hog
@@bobhanson1037 I guess you missed the ones where he's half-naked with small children wearing adult lingerie and make-up
@@humanbean3 because they dont want to. I have watched thos whole situation for years. If it hurts the Democrats they just ignore it when it is staring them the face twerking. It's a refusal to just tell the truth.
You know, people say freedom of speech does not extend to private companies and I'd say "fair" but that only extends insofar as governing entities do not have any "under the table" influence on these private companies' platform. By which point I would say it betrays the spirit of the first amendment, even if doesn't break the first amendment by technicality.
So the Trump government betrayed the spirit of the first amendment is what you're saying.
At the time Twitter was a publicly traded companie, so im not even sure i´d call it private. not to mention that a twitter message is a public statment and should be treated as such
@@Meirnon
No, what I’m saying is that the *american government* is betraying the spirit of the first amendment by having government entities influence what can and can’t be said there, specifically stuff that would under other circumstances be protected under the first amendment.
Considering that this is a game played by both parties, the fault lies on both parties.
@@urazoe8240 Being publicly traded is not the same as being a public service / being owned by the public. If you look at what was asked to be taken down (thanks to waybackmachine) it becomes pretty clear that posts were taken down because they had dick pics in them... and that's illegal under revenge porn laws.
@@SirePuns I mean, what if what was taken down was content that was illegal?
Should the government be allowed to lean on a private company to take down revenge porn?
Crickets from NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS..."If you just say nothing it will go away"...sure.
“The government may need to intervene [in content moderation].” How do you not see that this is exactly what happened here?
Pretty sure he meant making it illegal for shit like this to happen. Like a law saying people can't just go to companies like Twitter and have them censor stuff that hurts them or their public image. Apparently tho people just hate the government so much they couldn't think that you can use the government to control the government 🤦
The best way to combat conspiracy theories is to not make them true.
if you actually use the wayback machine to look at the tweets the Biden team asked Twitter to remove, they were essentially all j photos of Hunter Biden's dick or Hunter's nudes, since those are examples of revenge porn which is against Twitter TOS. Matt Taibi explicitly states that neither the Biden team nor the US govt was involved in the censoring of the NY Post story, and rather it was a poor decision made by an outsourced moderation team, w/o Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey even knowing at first, and Dorsey reversed the decision after he found out. That's about it. Also Matt Taibi failed to show bias in moderation, the only evidence he showed was that Twitter employees gave more money to Democrat candidates than Republican candidates since a lot of Twitter employees live in California, but that doesn't actually prove that Twitter staff listened to requests from Democrats more than requests from Republicans. that's not to say there couldn't be a bias in moderation, but Taibi failed to prove it
We must stop recognizing the term. Don't even address it any more. Act as if we can't hear it when said. Make it like a small child's imaginary friend🤣. If applied evenly, not selectively, it puts every crime investigator in that same club. When court day comes, simply point out the fact that their primary source for evidence is a known, and only associates with known, conspiracy theorist(s), and motion the evidence is bias and gas lighting, and must be canceled🤣. ...........(when we ALL know the real threat are those Jewish space lasers)
@@freestateofjones5042 fun fact: Israel does have a Laser that shoots into space
Another fun fact: The US had one for almost 30 years now, new to technology huh?
@@BeepBop322 well just bless your heart🤣. How did you know? I flunked my cave drawing class. Had trouble making fire to create the ash I needed for a pigment....dagnabit, I guess I'll get it by the next pole flip....sir
When the government is involved yes 1st amendment laws do apply.
Joe Biden wasn't in government in 2020. You do know who was president in 2020 right?
Wasn’t in govt. But that’s a technicality - anyone one can report a crime (revenge porn).
@@variant_mc coping leftoid
@@mukamuka0 Are you even reading my comment? You're question makes no sense, because he doesn't take office until 2021. I'm going to repeat this again since you're having trouble comprehending. Joe Biden wasn't in government. So this isn't a 1st amendment issue. And regardless, Revenge porn is illegal and against Twitter TOS. What part of this do you not understand?
Just like the 4th amendment applies to the NSA right?
Once you are doing the bidding of the government, you are no longer a private company; you are the government.
Says the person who pays taxes
Twitter was deleting stuff for governments since a long time, and everybody knows about that.
Elon Musk twitter is still doing this right know, he also deleted tons of tweet that followed the TOS just cause he didn’t liked itx
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So I guess every company every who took government contract for their business is also the government too 🤔
@@spikegilfer1997 yes it is. Private companies working at the behest of the government to further the goals of the government = facism.
10:25 they laptop wasn’t hacked, it was left behind at a repair shop and they had the password lol
where did they say that?
@@ajohndaeal-asad6731 news
Mainstream media should be the last place anyone goes for information
@@ajohndaeal-asad6731 The story was that Hunter Biden left it at the repair shop to get repaired and after not showing up after a long time to pick it up it's legally abandoned.
The repair guy opened it up saw what was on it and backed up all the materials to an external drive before he contacted and handed it over to the FBI which they confirmed.
After the FBI did nothing with all the sick material on the laptop he handed the story/material over to the NYT.
@@ajohndaeal-asad6731 lol umm that's how repair shops work bruh
The people saying "this is not that big of a deal" are the reason these clowns get away w whatever they want. It's like a spoiled kid running around acting like a little jerk while his mom sits there watching and says "isn't he such an angel 😇"
He doesn’t live at the Whitehouse nor has he been given a position in the administration that he is wholly and hideously unqualified for, that would bother me so much more.
It’s the typical “your side is being attacked so reframe the situation as not a big deal”. We already knew social media companies were heavily biased to the left. But these “files” show them working directly with the Biden administration to affect the election results 😂. You can’t really defend this if you’re “on the left”. So you gotta downplay it and throw in the occasional “not as bad as January 6th”.
the suppression of a story about a presidential candidates son having a computer full of degeneracy by the largest social media platform of all time "isnt that big of a deal"
Its because people are so stubborn that they refuse to admit they were wrong. I am gay but I hate democrats, and in the LGBT community EVERYONE supports the democrats regardless of what crimes they commit. This generation is brainwashed.
Exactly the fact they deleted the revenge porn is basically fascism we’re one step away from the Kanye reich at this point 😂
The first doesnt apply to private companies, true. However if a government official is using a private company to conduct their political business,
then it does apply. As the Government official/partisan is now misusing their position, influence peddling is illegal.
I'm nearly certain you have no idea what the legal definition of influence peddling is.
Biden was a private citizen when his people asked twitter to remove Hunter's porn.
@@LTrotsky21stCentury bro we literally live in an age of influencers. Everything is influenced from all sides, always has been.
Just like Asmon said in another vid, growing up the right did this shit too. The files even said Trump tried doing the same thing.
It's all corrupt man
Anyone can report a crime (revenge porn). Also, which government official?
Any private company should be forced by the state to go public, if what they're making or providing can in any way be considered a monopoly and/or considered essential for modern living, or if the barrier of entry to create a competing service or product is so utterly high that it's effectively impossible for competition to arise.
"all a big nothing" always means something.
You know which side said such comments lol
@@BleachRush Oh I know. A little bs something is huge though. Sooooooooo you know.
Dude it’s annoying to see some people defend this. Like this is disgusting
I understand things need to be regulated. But I find that regulation of free speech is very dangerous territory for the government to be involved in. It risks the ruling party being able to suppress their opponents. I would very much prefer the government not be involved in censorship and regulation of speech. At the very least, it should be done by a non-partisan third party.
As much as I don't like any incendiary speech that propels on these mediums, but I think it just fails if theres just ANY human involvement (extending to what people set AI to do too is included) could and likely to eventually be abused. Its more on if society can develop ethics and law to keep pace with more and more technology being integrated into our daily lives.
You are already suppressed a long time ago. There are certain times of history that you get jail time for questioning them
Agreed. Regulation of social media is very scary territory. I would call it basically extremist honestly.
"I am very much worried about social media being like way too powerful and way too uh way too influential and not having any sort of governmental oversight."
If you're worried about this, I've got some pretty bad news for you.
This is a great comment because that is a truth we're facing that needs some deep, critical thinking and likely innovation to fix. Not exactly easy to regulate an industry with government policy and oversight when the very nature of that relationship with the government is this complicated and full of collusion.
I think you could make a decent argument for simply outlawing censorship, but man does that use a broad stroke that could have some sweeping consequences.
"it's not a big deal" until our side gets the same treatment.
literally every liberal
This is a masv nothing burger, it's wild how republicans are quick to condemn them yet quickly glossed over the 2020 insurrection. i would love it if you could point out what exactly was so wrong
Facts
When you have power, I expect you to treat me equally and respect my rights because that is your ideal. But when I have power I will suppress you and take away your rights because that is MY IDEAL - leftists
They're scum, thankfully generally unarmed scum.
“A big nothing” said the cope.
21:50 Except voting literally doesn't matter when elections and bills are passed because of lobbyists instead of votes
Asmongold too young to remember how fun the internet was before government interference.
Internet was invented by the government.....
Unregulated internet is like playing soccer in a minefield, fun until you step on a landmine.
Also, regulation is different from censorship.
@@voidwalker9939 "this is dangerous to our democracy" You bot 🤖
nah hes 32
Im gonna go out on a limb and say he is probably older than you 💀
How do people argue this is big nothing when there's literal transcript of inner discussion about censoring content that wouldn't stand even with their own policies
During an election no less
Yea, I am tired of the "private company" argument, these companies are too big, with too much influence to look at it that way.
That's what the NPC update told them to say.
@@masterofreality230 the same people saying "muh private company" are the same ones whining about how Elon is running Twitter now. It's so transparently hypocritical.
People rightly say there is nothing big here* because the internal conversation happened after Twitter started taking down revenge porn at the request of a campaign. The conversation was to clarify how they would handle different types of requests from campaigns going forward.
* Nothing big at least from the Biden (private citizen) side. The requests coming from the Trump White House may be a very different matter legally speaking.
James Woods tweet was censored, far from revenge porn
Revenge porn should be censored 💀💀 it doesn't matter who does it
@@bluebird1954 ok zoomer, the actual image was blurred, so not revenge porn
19:43 "I'm 100% for regulation of social media"
Sadly, this is happening in Brazil, and look at what came from it. The problem is that it's impossible to find someone 100% honest to regulate things, it's always "their point of view", or in the worst case, it's "whatever they want". It often hurts more than it helps.
As long as the posts aren't breaking any laws, leave the regulation to the private company itself. The private company may not be the ideal group to regulate social media, but it's the best we can get.
Careful, the supreme court might take your comment down.
The biggest problem with SECTION 230 is that it needs to be properly enforced. If they were acting purely as a Platform then they would be able to pass legal responsibility for posts to the one who posted. With them enacting editorial control over what content can be posted, and increasing/decreasing visibility of specific content they are acting as a PUBLISHER and then would be forced to follow the same rules as Newspapers and magazines.
Reddit mods are Publishers?
Seriously some people should have to wear a helmet when commenting on youtube.
@@helmholtzthemulewatson4763 Technically yes, lawfully no. A Good analogy is that they're simply security to a parlor. Any words spoken by the guests can't be held against said parlor. And if the guests are no longer welcomed they can be removed without recourse.
There can be arguements made that they SHOULD be held as publishers. However that of course would be outweighed in the interest of Free Speech. Since higher standards of moderation and control would be necessary if held as publishers.
It's really not a dull thought to think they should be held accountable as publishers, it's just one that doesn't consider the consequences if they are.
Same rules as newspapers ? like lie and slander freely who is not in your tribe /established political class / or for badthink since most ppl cant fight against you ...
@@MrOssyan same rules as in they can be sued for libel slander and fall under FCC guidelines and regulations
Currently social media has it both ways, editorializing and promoting the content that aligns with their interests, then claiming to merely be a platform to avoid lawsuits and regulations.
"The government commanded the suppression of people speech on Twitter, so we should now let the government regulate Twitter"
This is the most braindead take
It's Asmongoloid, what do you expect? The man's brain is rotted from Diet Pepsi and $2 steaks.
i think it's a kinda good take. The problem is that social media is protected with false blankant immunity under c230, if the government started to regulate it they would be beholden to the 1st amendment and could get sued if they censored speech, which is why the dems don't want social media regulation.
@@splinte111 lololol what? in the twitter thread, dems were complaining how twitter wasnt regulated enough. section230, says platforms cant act as publishers, meaning, unless content is illegal, its allowed. publishers can decide what is posted cause they can be sued. the issue is social media, claims to be a platform but acts as publisher. nyt, is a publisher, they dont allow anyone to write for them, if you send an email you want posted, they can refuse it, fb, you can post any legal content, conspiracy theories are legal. nyt cant post that cause if they do they can be sued. fb, cant be sued cause they claim your posts are your posts, fb isnt saying flat earth theory is legit cause you posted it.
the issue isnt do we need new regulation not, its we have existing regulation and why isnt it enforced. why isnt govt saying twitter/fb/yt took down legal speech and thus has to pay 1B in fines.
@@splinte111 ...So you're actually in favour of fascism then? How can a private entity be beholden to laws ONLY applying to government entities without being owned by the government? S230 literally extends the SAME rights you and I have to private entities online. In fact, S230 protects YOU just as much as it protects the company. Making twitter, and thereby it's users, beholden to the first amendment means that you blocking me, or preventing me from commenting on your facebook feed is also illegal. Is it fair that I get to sue you because you put me in your spam folder? Is it fair that I get to sue you because you deleted my comment off your channel? Is it fair that I get to sue Asmongold for timing me out because I spammed the N-word a million times?
Don't pretend to understand what S230 is or the implications of private entities being forced to follow the first amendment even means when all it really means to you is... I get to do whatever I want and YOU'RE not allowed to do whatever you want. You want to be able to sue people for being mean, but when the tables turn on you, you'll be crying and whining about it.
Yeah it's crazy, the institution that is built on having the public deciding how it is run should regulate entities that the public have absolutely no power on how they are run. So insane that one would think that.
The laptop is not hacked information. He abandoned that laptop in a computer repair shop, it’s not his anymore. The new owner has every right to do whatever they want with it.
Owning it doesn't mean it wasn't hacked into to get the information.
Uh-huh. We had Hunter Biden saying he believes a laptop could have been stolen of his, but not that he left it at a repair shop. The guy said something akin to: "He said he was Hunter Biden." rather than saying he was specifically Hunter Biden.
What’s the difference? Also wouldn’t he have left his password so they could repair it? Not really “hacking”
@@avengemybreath3084 Well, there are a few different factors to it.
For one he may not have passworded the account itself but there may have been passwords on folders/files, he may have had a general password and the above or nothing at all, and seeing all the shit that has come out it's probably option 3.
They didn’t hack a laptop. It was properly accessed
The first amendment doesn't apply to private companies, until the private company is limiting people at the request of government officials
So many people who claim to uphold the values of the 1st amendment don't seem to realize this.
To those that say: "Its a private company, First Amendment does not apply" OK. Do they apply the Terms of Service equally to all parties, or are they selective? If they are selective (and there is proof that they are) then the company can be sued for violation of the contract they have made with its users (ie. Terms of Service)
delusional much?
You are missing the point here Zac, its not about him smoking crack who gives a shit about that, its about the rampant incest in the family, the chinese business dealings using gvt funds and influence, dealings in Ukraine too, its about him getting away with all that shit while also getting book deals for talking about his crimes on TV and being praised for it, not to talk about him being an "artist" knowing everything else he probably uses his paintings for money laundering, but im not sure about that one 100%.
Be sure. That's what art is for in our economy.
@@HereTakeAFlower since when is Hunter Biden selling his daddies influence “art?”
I'm sure you cared as much about Trump's family using government funds and influence in China and Saudi Arabia right
So what, Ivanka and Kushner did the same while holding public office. Hunter is not and has never been a government official. Ivanka got a deal with China and also sold books. Kushner just got 2B from the Saudis. If you are that upset then don't be biased because the Trump family has done the same and profited more off daddy's name. I would argue theirs is worse because some of that profiteering was done while holding a government position
@@insanittiez4860 he legit used his fathers position and got personal deals with foreign governments, also not to mention while trump was in office we didnt have inflations a war and looming ww3.
It's great you're sharing a story that a surprisingly large amount of people don't know about
@@Niterayde WTF are you talking about?
Them you dont know about
its a big nothing burger
woof
@@AGuyPlayingAGame twitch already shadow bans asmon. Stuff like that.
It wasn't hacked he left the laptop, it became the property of the store
Right! They never believed it was hacked. That was the only excuse they could use. They had no others. They even discuss if they could defend that claim and internally determines it was BS. But who cares...they have immunity.
Asmon's regulation strawman at the end was dumb. None of the other shit he said was regulated is in the Bill of Rights, unlike freedom of speech. Freedom of the press is also protected, and if there is evidence a politician TOLD twitter to censor something, then that's a big deal.
This comment is dumb. A politician sending an email isn't a law. US freedom of speech means that the government cannot make laws to suppress you. Twitter can do whatever it wants, because it is not the government; if you were standing on a soapbox rambling and a random passerby decided he didn't like what you were saying he could push you off and physically hold your mouth closed. That does not impact your free speech in any way, because random passerby's are not the government. You might not like how this works, but now, possibly for the first time in your life, you actually do know how it works
After more than 10 years of shit inside Twitter and now the "machine" goes hard against those who dare to speack about it, thats scary AF.
For those who didnt know a single thing about how dirty the Staff was: welcome to the real world.
Right? Crazy they worked for trump until 2020 shit was nuts and they didn't cover any of the shady deals Ivanka and Jared and Don JR made over 10 billion from China Russia and the saudis and were worried about one retard with a laptop lmfao
Yuo
It wasn't even hacked
He left his laptop at a store to be fixed and while trying to recover the computers information the store owner saw all the information. He could not get Hunter to come get it so he gave it to the FBI and then told news outlets about it so it was not hacked.
It was considered stolen then... Where does it say that you're allowed to go through customer's information and release the information to the news?
@@AnonDoge he abandoned it. Stealing is illegal and the store owner was never charged with a crime.
@@joeevett9007 No, the laptop was stolen. Why would Hunter Biden leave a laptop somewhere with confidential emails/files and never return to get it? Think about that. He said that the contents were real, just wasn't him that went to the store.
@Joe Evett Not being charged with a crime does not mean a crime was not committed. Widespread fraud was responsible for the2008 financial crash, how many people were charged with crimes for it?
@@darksaint0124 store owner had a pick up policy. It was something around 90 days or you forfeit the item. Payment due on pick up, item is held as collateral.
this wasn't stolen, when hunter biden, who shares a bank account with his dad, left his laptop he forfeited the laptop to the owner.
Lmao Twitter is throwing elections but Asmon be like “it’s not a big deal though”
There's nothing really in that thread that would constitute as "Twitter is throwing elections"
Its not a big deal to him because his side won.
@@nickkemp4979 censoring incriminating information during an election is “Twitter throwing elections”
@@nickkemp4979it was close election and this was bug because it shows corruption in family circle of president to be. Election is all about momentum because R/D is almost 50/50 in supports, just whoever got more support from their usual party and some independents.
@@yudistiraliem135 Nothing that was taken down is "corruption." Hunter's D pics aren't "corruption."
Government should have direct access to Social Media moderation. - A quote that only someone who always lived under the save umbrella of 1a could ever even think it's a good idea.
Its a global platform darkeon. This isnt a matter about speech. Its a matter about business. Does twitter want to conduct business in other countries? Then they have to follow the laws of all those countries. Its a compromise.
The alternative is to censor everything to those countries.
@@zanido9073 Like I said, it takes someone so very sheltered to believe that the government wouldn't abuse it, given the chance - like PLENTY of governments already do worldwide.
@@Darkeonable Social media companies are bigger and in some ways more powerful than governments, I can not say that I care about their right to censor people more than I care about the peoples right to free speech.
@Urusovite and u think theres no work around?
The people that are saying this is nothing has the same energy as battered spouses saying “oh it’s nothing”.
ok npc
@@VulcanP90 Hit a nerve there did he? Your girlfriend's boyfriend locking you out again?
There is something here but not what everyone thinks it is.
Everyone just ignoring the nugget that The thread confirms the Whitehouse under Trump censored Tweets but immediately distracts everyone with donations by Twitter employees... Lol
I'm sure you thought Drumpf stealing top secret documents was 'nothing.'
@@jry0511 Ah yes, the latest thing he totally did (Just trust us.) and wasn't fabricated at all. He's sure to be arrested (this time) any second now. Annnnnnyyyyy second now... lol
Nothing worse than losing your only sibling at a young age. Your never the same.
Seriously. This is why Trump never drinks or does drugs.
@@Evadann Why would I? Covid is still raging out there.
He died quite old tho
@@anthonyju6392 covid 🙄 this guy
I don’t think he died when hunter was at a young age. Just looked it up and Hunter actually dated his brothers wife after his death in about a year.
I was locked out of twitter a year ago when I tweeted about Rus jets violating our airspace which was later confirmed.
Swedish airspace btw.
I actually posted this too, but i was never locked out lol.
I'm 100% certain that's not true.
@@MikeAvoo August 2021. 3 Rus jets were confirmed to have flown over the airspace and at least one flew over the island of Gotland. I was there, about to board a bus and what I assume to be a mig 21 flew directly my and my ex's head just some feet above the treetops. We heard nothing until it was directly over our heads. She dropped screaming and crying cause it scared the absolute shiz out of her. I say mig 21 because it had a flat-ish nose from where I saw it. We who live here have regular contact with the stationed military, and this was about the time we started to receive more stationed troops. It was later confirmed by both close acquaintances of mine and the local newspaper. I'm also sure if you did some digging, you will find some official reports. I get it- it's the internet, and random comments looks like NPCs and bots from time to time. But stuff that you will never hear about happens on a daily. No one talks on the global news about the murders and crime ramp-up we've been having here the past few years aside from Malmö being full of gangs with guns and grenades. No one's talking about the massive drug-trade that teens that don't want to work are falling into. Tonnes and tonnes of drugs and alcohol being smuggled on public transport ferries. Massive grow-ops ran by the farmers.
Kids openly mugging you in public at atms.
As said, this place is small. Barely 70k people during the summers- and everyone knows everyone. But we got like max 10 cops.
But ye, the jet thing is real, and has been going on for awhile.
"Conspiracy theorists" knew this all along. Tim pool called this stuff out a long time ago.
...Dems also knew this. The people you're talking about took what was public knowledge and then turned it into "And they're using their power to fuck kids and be lizard people behind our backs". That's literally the inner workings of conspiracy theorists. They take public information, claim only THEY know about it, and then make some other wild bullshit conclusions on the back end that can't be proven. The idea is that idiots like you do research and find out the public information to confirm the person isn't making shit up, and then when you can't find the other bullshit they made up, you think "Oh shit, they're hiding it from me and this guy is some super smart brilliant hacker man with insider information" even though they're manipulating you and betting on you being too stupid to have critical thinking skills.
Here's an example: "X company was caught dumping contaminates in the water which have devastating ecological and environmental effects. These chemicals are proven to affect genetics and future generations genetics" This part is 100% true... then they go "Know what else they say is genetics? Homosexuality. What this company is doing is dumping chemicals in the water to turn the fucking frogs gay to push the insane agenda that homosexuality is normal in the animal kingdom even though they're forcing them to be gay with chemicals. This is the liberal agenda... THEY WANT TO FEED CHEMICALS TO YOUR KIDS TO MAKE THEM GAY!!".
Bottom line, we knew the government asked companies to take shit down... hell, zuckerberg admitted as much on a podcast with Joe rogan more than 3 months ago.... That doesn't mean gay agenda lizards spraying chemicals through airplane trails is suddenly true.
@@ryanthompson3737 must be nice living in a fantasy world where nothing terrible happens.
Like Alex Jones says. " INFOWARS tomorrows news today."
Whenever someone says "social media should be regulated", I ask "what regulation exactly?". People never get into the specifics. Democrats, for example, want regulation to stop misinformation and hate speech. Meanwhile Republicans want regulation to prevent social media companies from "censoring" speech. And how could you do this without infringing on the first amendment either way? (censorship and compelled speech).
Not that I disagree with you but I just wanted to mention that Freedom of speech shouldn’t apply to private companies. Regulating companies is fine of course, you don’t want to have child p*** floating around obv.
But making companies allow everything they see is stupid as hell. the first amendment only really applies when the government is directly censoring something or when someone is speaking out in public. So why would a private entity need to comply with something like freedom of speech?
I was raped in the army and ended up getting thrown our for smoking Crack. I was 20 and didn't know how to process it. I continued to ruin my life for 15 years and I'm just now getting it together. Being rich doesn't give you more opportunities to ruin your life. It gives you more opportunities to get it together when you are done ruining your own life.
Keep on keeping on
Being rich just gives you different ways to do both
Kinda like unlocking a new character to play the same game
You can still ruin your life while being rich.
But you'll take bunch of people down with you, and it'll take waaaaaay more work on your part rather than unfortunate chance to ruin your life.
The whole crack thing is not the main problem
Anyone who is using "removing revenge porn" defense is either dumb or a massive scumbag.
@@michaeld8280 yeah didn't realise James Woods was big into revenge porn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What is ?
@@pillepalle3133 Corrupt business deals with Chinese communists and profits going to the "big guy" = Joe Biden - Also Hunter saved his dads number as Pedo-Peter
@@pillepalle3133 I would like to know too, I have yet to find anyone specify the incriminating things connected to Joe Biden. A lot of outrage from conservatives yet no substantive reason to be outraged, but I would like to know what they they mean by the incriminating evidence.
took me way too much scrolling down past all the main stream media pushed by youtube to fill a narative until i found this, the first video i could find by a normal person on the topic.
JP Reacts also has a video on it
Well ofcourse they would bury the truth because they don’t want to face the music. Now they are deflecting it on trump lol
“A big nothing”
I would imagine that government regulation of social media would just allow the government more control over what to censor? Is that really a good solution - that's the scandal in the first place lol.
So we were all correct, stigmatized and called conspiracy theorists but ultimately right. The funniest part is that people will not go like "oh man they were right about everything, let me apologize and perhaps look at the world a bit differently!". Nope, people will double down on the stupidity, just watch.
Either that or pretend they never said anything
They keep insisting it's about his dick...
Its all obvious stuff we all knew happened anyway. It's a nothing burger. the RNC and DNC has been doing this for decades it's not news.
What is this “everything” you’re talking about? Twitter is still full of right wing lunatics spewing baseless accusations and allegations 24/7 about elections and democrats. Removing revenge porn is not that crazy because literally anybody would’ve done that if it’s within their power and private companies don’t want to get sued into oblivion.
Conspiracy theorist is practically a compliment now-a-days
6:30 he has enough resources around him to not be a crackhead. He was also getting kicked back millions of dollars from Barisma for being the VPs son. I don't have empathy, as any pictures of me would take 2 years to get taken off any of these platforms, and they censored news outlets from even sharing the information.
Where can I watch this
You can't compare regulation of social media companies (in broad terms) to regulation of food, power, transport.. Those are not comparable.
Also, would be nice to elaborate what kind of regulation are You for; what would that entail
The first amendment is not absolute?
That's like saying your right to live is not absolute.
The bill of rights are restrictions on what the federal government can do...Jefferson described it as "shackles on government". Not saying it was right or ok for Twitter to do what they did but we have to be careful when we're talking about anything private
Except when those "private" companies are acting on behalf of the government
@@Niterayde What crime are you even alluding too?
@@Niterayde > A private citizen requesting a private company to moderate itself isn’t collusion. It’s not a crime in any way.
> Sedition against whom exactly? Seditious conspiracy involves plots to violently overthrow elected officials. Censoring stories on Twitter would not qualify.
> “Protecting child predators” isn’t a crime. Actually molesting children is.
I thought a little higher of you before this, gov breaking the 1st is unforgivable
Well Said +1
The plot like my gravy thickens...
Haha😂
@Lylee cow Literally addicted to Asmongold uploads 😂.
Laptop was not hacked it was forfeited property
The election denying stuff really became the common default in 2016, not 2020
"I'm 100% for regulations of social media" just imagine Bobby Kotick controlling ALL of the social media platforms.
Internet proves once again they dont know what 1A is.
1A?
A1 steak sauce?
@@shanty6953 lmao
@@Hazard0ss No because even the people who claim to want it don't really want it. The thing that is ignored is that conservative social media platforms also curate content. A social media platform for a church does not want people to have the freedom to come in and say whatever they want on their platform. People want to selectively apply it to something like twitter. Go look at the Terms of Service for any "free speech" loving conservative platform and you will find the same assertions of their right to curate and remove content at their own discretion regardless of cause.
@@Hazard0ss no one is mad that Twitter is regulating their speech. The problem is it is a political party colluding with a private company behind the scenes, thwarting their opponent. Due to government being involved. It is in direct conflict with freedom of speech. It would be no different then going to China and listening to government controlled media. If you can’t see the problem with that. Do some research and critical thinking.
@@zanido9073 The problem is you can't force people to stay on a platform that allows "free speech" if there feeds are constantly full of misinformation and hate speech they are going to leave just like what happened to face book. It is only big because people want to be there if the majority leave it becomes like truth social and the point becomes moot. Making special rules to try and force people to hang out with you on the most popular platforms is nonsense.
"politics is everyone cheating and doing everything they can to gain and keep power" "let's have them regulate the most powerful social media platforms!" -asmongold
The only regulation that should happen is governments enforcing that companies respect free speech.
Asmon is likely a US Government agent
Why would you bring up the 2020 election as the catalyst for election shenanigans when another political party screamed for 4 years that the 2016 election was rife with those same issues and as a matter of fact every time a Republican wins they scream shenanigans
The problem with government regulation is simple, it allows whoever is in power to directly control (ministry of truth style) everything that social media is allowed to do and who's opinions are allowed to be heard...and not face uneven enforcement of the law for.
Equating regulating freedom of speech to things like manufacturer safety regulations doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
You can point to a problem like the design and function of a car's safety features and objectively say, 'these features need to be standard and always be in working order before leaving the factory'
Free speech is not so obvious due to different people's subjective opinions on what should and should not be allowed, especially when both sides like to move the goal posts on classification on what's harmful/disinformation/hateful ECT.
I mean isn't that true about anything that the government controls, like if you break the law you get thrown in jail so is better that the government doesn't inforce those laws because laws can be changed by the ones on power at any time
We have laws against hate speech or incitement. Why do we need soy boy and blue haired cuunts censoring Americans. Pretty sure the courts can handle it.
@@Hazard0ss Bro I'll rather take my chances with private companies than government, because private companies have to make money. If they start regulating too much and turn the website into shit they will make less money which means, there is an incentive to make platform better. I trust in capitalism to figure this shit out. Government gives no fucks if people like the platform or not, they can't go bust or even care about financials, so there is no incentive for them to make platform better. Besides at least people like Elon Musk doesn't take orders from Claus Schwab from WEF lmao
@@hamm8934 they behave in the interest of making money, that's why I trust them. You can't make money if you make your platform shit
@@hamm8934 if people aren't happy with regulations on twitter, they will stop using twitter which means less money for twitter. That's not going to increase their profits if people dislike twitter. Are you dumb?
Social Media, to an extent, does need to be regulated to ensure that nothing nefarious is going on such as the distribution of child pornography, etc. But beyond child pornography and perhaps calls to physical violence, harassment, etc..I believe beyond that what should be regulated gets more complicated and muddy. I personally believe that as long as you're not breaking any laws, people should be able to say what they want and if people don't like it, then they're free to use the tools that exists on the platform to decide who they want to see, what conversations they want to participate in, etc. As long as people have an out, people should be able to say whatever the fuck they want. Just my two cents.
Kind of what section 230 says, but they ignore it
regulation means they will make it political. If you say something that is different from government narrative, you get banned. If you don't support the climate change narrative or maybe you think the vaccines are fake, you get banned for misinformation. Whatever narrative is currently being pushed and if anybody is against that narrative, they get silenced. That's basically Stalinist Russia but globally
Cool when you buy a sever and start hosting a forum be sure to apply those rules in fact thats a thing its called 4chan. The part people are missing is these are private spaces owned by companies they make the rules not the first amendment. agree or disagree with twitter they were at least a one time run in a semi democratic fashion in the sense that decisions were made by a board of directors and not a single person. Elon Musk Has brought totalitarian dictatorship to twitter and morons are out here calling it a win for freedom. Humanity has lost the ability for independent thought.
@@lizardKingCDXX the board of directors of twitter were not elected by people. Those were hired by some guy who had the same views on everything which means "a board" is essentially just 1 person if they all have the same views on things
Yeah, but then they cry "I'm being Cancelled" when their traffic dies or ppl mass-unfollow
Twitter is definitely the best video game in existence.
The Twitter flies
Oh yea it was totally about deleting revenge porn.
Did you search the links provided on the email?
@@bonsailup The big deal about Hunter's laptop wasn't the content but the censorship. And the content people did care about was his shady business dealings, not his naked pictures. Bringing them up a justification for the blanket censorship of the laptop is incredibly dishonest.
The laptop did not implicate his father in anything but it would have damaged his campaign. It was censored because Twitter and many in the media wanted him to win.
This revenge porn justification is pure cope.
@@Pyryp2 watched the whole vid and now with more context your right, censoring the article is where the issue is, its annoying that more people didn't talk about that, i think every one agrees with them deleting the revenge porn tweets but seems like that's what had the main focus over all.
@@bonsailup Thank you for intellectual honesty.
@@Pyryp2 his father was somewhat implicated though, with the "10% to the big guy", his dad using foreign aid money to Ukraine as extortion to get the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was looking into his son getting a shady deal with a job on the board of an Ukrainian energy company (Burisma), and letting him Use government planes to make business deals in China.
It implies both of them imho. It's just more vague with Joe.
Lol, love the people screaming its nothing. Thats how you know its everything.
@@anovaguy please guys I know we don’t have the narrative anymore. Please just don’t listen
Lol you’re delusional. It’s not everything because nothing will happen from this. Elon is just looking for attention and wants people to stop abandoning twitter
@@deadlybossbros5222 would you apply the same logic to J6 and top secret documents? Lots of people screaming that both of those were nothing.
@@deviouskris3012 lol the j6 logic. They had nothing. If they had something they would release all the footage and answer for who ray epps is.
@@christopher7763 Twitter is at a all time high of users. You are delusional, this was conspiracy years ago and they blamed Russia. Good one though lol
They should make twitter left and twitter right and it changes whenever you turn your phone upside down like twix.
You should tweet that. Maybe Elon would do it.
It wasn't first time for global instant messages, you had AOL IMs you had Yahoo, had ICQ, had a shit ton of instant messengers back in the 90s well before tweeter existed.
"It's a big nothing" Bro c'mon, are you serious?
6:56 The village theory-If a person grows up in a village that raids, they will become(and quite proudly)murderers/rapists/thief's.Once we INTERNALISE this, the empathy will really radiate outwards.
Bro I thought you were talking about wow raids 😂
Which is why people should understand how easily they could have been Nazis.
He mentions rapists, and you feel called out. Amazing
@@dreddscott3873 lobster! Kill it!
Can you name a country in history where nepotism didn’t exist 😂.
Why are news stations not covering this? I have to search for it, even though i am subscribed to tv channels
The food we eat isn’t regulated enough
Damn I saw this tweet pop up the other day and it intrigued me, but I still didn't actually read the thread 💀💀 what's wrong with me that I don't follow through on my own intrigue
Dawg. Asmon goes SO easy on the left lol.
the left didn't do jan 6th
Not having empathy for rich people is much different than not having empathy for public servants who made a fortune selling your future to the highest bidder..
People had plenty of empathy for trump for whatever the fuck reason.
Last thing I want is a regulated internet.
It’s already regulated by the FTC
Your internet is already regulated. There is a reason why Google searches take you to friendly pages rather than dark web illegal shit.
@@Hazard0ss but we don't have net neutrality, it was shot down by that idiot with the giant coffee mug who also tried to say states couldn't override the FCC. Mozilla took it to the courts and got that overturned so that states can enforce net neutrality regulations, but as of now we have no federal net neutrality regulations like you're describing. So nothing is currently stopping them from doing that nonsense, they're just weary to do so because when they tried (verizon) they were taken to court and they know a simple change in presidential admins can get them back to title ii status, thus being able to be federally regulated under net neutrality laws.
We already have one, it was not as bad in the late 90s, it was much more fun.
@@masterofreality230 I was still a youngling but I'm sure it must have been hell. We take too many things for granted. We download apps from the app store and assume that they are all malware free.
To brush this off as revenge porn is moronic. We all know it wasn't about that. They screamed that the content of the laptop is russian disinfo while knowing that to be a lie.
what was in the laptop and why is that never the story? Ive only halfway followed this story but it seems like the headlines never have to do with what was actually on the laptop
Matt Taibi is literally a Kremlin propagandist so I mean.. yeah it kind of is Russian disinformation. Or at least framed information operating under a lot of motivated reasoning.
Who is “they,” champ?
@@kyleleehufnagel the media and kids on Twitter
Travis I can't reply to ur comment without it getting insta deleted. If you read the story it's about shady dealings with Russia
When the government tells a "private" company to do something it is no longer a private company and therefore it is a governmental agency.
I’ve never gotten a good layout of what was the big deal with the laptop anyways. Can someone explain to me and those of us not in the know?
It exposed political payola happening between Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, and foreign states to trade political influence for cash.
Surface level : loads of amateur porn featuring hunter biden, copious amounts of drugs and hookers (allegedly some of them underage).
Iceberg level : tons of emails confirming ties between president biden and various Ukrainian companies and political figures, tons of corruption, embezzlement of tax dollars, election interference, nepotism and other typical Democrat scandals...
Wtf are all these bots. Jesus.
Bot
What constitutes a bot?!
so far no real smoking gun sadly
He screwed his dead brother's wife. For some reason this doesn't me think he's all that fucked up over his brother's death