Why China, EU and US are at odds over electric vehicle production
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2024
- The EU and US have raised concerns over Chinese dominance in electric vehicle production, accusing them of "flooding the market" and limiting other countries' ability to compete on a level playing field.
China has rejected these claims, saying their car companies have a right to sell their products anywhere in the world, as Nicole Johnston explains.
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If the US is dominating, it's fair trade. If others dominate, it's not fair. 😅
It is fair trade because the USA doesn't have a whole population as slaves.
Also, because we don't steal your technology and your design.
90% of everything China builds is a copy paste Western technology that they stole. Just look at their cars, don't get me started with the planes, or the fighter jets...
It's just plane and simply wrong👎👎👎
@@cmiguel268Chinese workers are paid, just less than what an average US worker is paid because they have triple the population so less money to go around. However having more people means they can bust out more products at a lower price and there’s nothing wrong about that, the US is complaining about capitalism.
@@cmiguel268 i thought US was made up of Native Americans and Blacks
@@adolft_official yes, US was build up by slaving black and natives
Then build them in the US and EU and stop complaining...
funny i was just about to say the same thing
Nah, they’re busy funding Israel and Ukraine!
Lazy people can't build cars.
The west doesn’t allow slave labor.. its impossible to compete
giga Mexico per NAFTA to USA
Because EEU and US can't compete in open market.
What market? Nobody is buying them other than govbots and people who got forced to. That is why sales are toast and it’s tanking.
@@Cryaboutmyhandlefor market in America, the rest like in south east asia EV are selling even fuel is cheap.. EV is a option
@@ahwai82 < when the govbots post.
@@Cryaboutmyhandle West is getting isolated, see russian and israel war
This has nothing to do with the West not being able to compete with China. The CCP has been flooding the world markets for decades. Cheap heavily subsidized EVs will put car markers in the US out of business. This has happened to the steel industry also, with Cheap, below market value steel flooding the world. We will stop cheap Chinese EVs into the American market.
So its not about saving the earth but about money
Yep
It's also about local politics and protecting local companies. Getting votes will always take precedence over climate or any other issue. Protecting VWs viability will always be more urgent than helping the polar bears. It's uncomfortable to say out loud, but impressing at the polls is a "must have" while so many advertised issues are "nice to have" (in the eyes of political decision makers).
its the hypocrisy of the west, they allow chinese prodcts whch is financing russias war
I'm with China on this
we all are. Funny thing is that i.e. VW gets over half their profit from selling in the chinese market. Most carmakers do as it's the second largest car market in the world, so slap tarrifs on their EVs and they will respond with the same tarrifs and we are back to where we started
@@video_head THE largest, more than twice selled each year than the US
its the hypocrisy of the west, they allow chinese prodcts whch is financing russias war
Boeing Airbus BMW Mercedes Ford Apple all these companies didn't get subsidies from respective authorities?
its the hypocrisy of the west, they allow chinese prodcts whch is financing russias war
Boeing and Airbus have received huge subsidies as well as Military Contracts
@@silafaupaulmeredith7251 and still receiving one way or the other
Some Chinese EVs can cost almost double the local Chinese price when landed and sold in the US, Europe etc yet western EV makers still cannot compete with China. With the outsourcing of manufacturing of everything from socks to iphones to China for decades it's a bit late complaining, and difficult to do much, about it now.
Which country is named west
its the hypocrisy of the west, they allow chinese prodcts whch is financing russias war
Dear China be more green, but also be less green. I don't see how it's Chinas problem that we can't keep up and are unwilling to invest.
The Western nations are 20% of the world population. 80% of the rest are prospering. R.i.P G7.
its the hypocrisy of the west, they allow chinese prodcts whch is financing russias war
The so-called subsidies given in China are not that uncommon globally. Most of them are in consumer rebates when buying EVs and that has already stopped in China some years ago. And they were available to foreign companies as well in China. As for manufacturing incentives, one could argue that Tesla received even more than any Chinese manufacturers. From cheap land, cheap water to cheap electricity and even help on hiring 1000s of workers.
Solar electricity would not have reached grid parity without the Chinese
Nor would worldwide EV
Australian tech, Chinese manufacturing.
It’s no surprise America is ranked #27 in the world for intelligence!
its the hypocrisy of the west, they allow chinese prodcts whch is financing russias war
For decades US and EU made U$ billions enjoying majority market car sales in China and it was not a problem. 😐😐
The rest of the world watching China nervously? Which counties are in this rest of the world, that are nervous about China upsurge in EV production?
Europe and usa thought they're the world together with their colony Japan india and the Philippines..
Germany, Japan, France, US, S Korea
American market is filled up with EV . Who wanted to have EV got it already! Lexus canceled EV only after 1 year. Toyota gives one away ($300 lease). USA electricity consumption in past 4 years is up 30% , EV was pushed on us cheap alternative (10 times less moving parts, good for environment). EV is good idea, but there so much need to be done!
The #1 Best selling car in the world 2023 was an EV, Tesla Y
#1 Car manufacturer in the world is Tesla
The only car manufacturers left in 5-10 years are Tesla and Chinese EV manufacturers
Cant wait until cheaper Chinese EV's land in Europe. Hopefully at an affordable price!
US gets them first through Mexico NAFTA. BYd!
The BYD Dolphin costs about 100,000 yuan in China, which is around 13,000 euros. But in Europe, it's sold at 29,990 euros.
its the hypocrisy of the west, they allow chinese prodcts whch is financing russias war
They are already in Europe -- most of them are parked in various European ports for China's overcapacity.
As consumers, we want cheap, not expensive and good quality cars. I don't care as long as I am not paying too much.
Byd seagull 10k in China. Say NO to tariffs only hurts consumers
It's very impressive how quickly the Chinese car industry caught up when just a decade ago, everyone was laughing at Chinese cars.
Western car manufacturer greed has led to this. They took production to China. The Chinese watched and learnt how to build and then opened their own brand to the world.
We had a little over manufacturing capacity at Tesla United States.
That's not true. Aside form the low volume S, X and Cybertruck, they only have the Y & 3. They just need to diversify the product range. That'll happen soon.
is it the China domestic market we are talking about ? green and ev are of course our soft spot. It's about the "leadership".
They are da one that proposed open market 😋
The only reason is now the western brands are failing to compete with chinese in quality cost and innovation. All else r bs.
Dolphin huh that explains why somebody shot one in california
Probably explains why the Japanese eat them.
Why EU, US are at odds against China over EV? Because EU and especially US could not compete and full of sit.
China is the safest, technologically advanced, disciplined and hard working force and huge market country for investors giving a very long term grantee which is not the case in US or western Europe. They are on the process to confiscate the Russian assets in N. America, Europe and Australia reminding the rest of the world don't invest there. De-dollarisation is the best answer the Global South needs the most.
Taiwan 🇹🇼 🇺🇲
Can't imagine if down south were to use tax subsidies in cut throat competition for export market.
Ha ha ha. So called west is afraid of Chinese EVs. But talking about net zero carbon emission.
Capitalism bites the Capitalists 😂😂 ... Competition is the Free Market... So Complete instead of Complaining 😮
SIMPLY BECAUSE POLITICS DO NOT LOOK AT THE REAL MARKET!
WRONG AI SUGGESTION!
I see, it is such a bad thing for people to have access to affordable EVs.
There are about 241 automobile manufacturers in China, of which about 20% are expected to produce less than 1,000 units in 2023, and about 17% of them are expected to produce less than 10,000 units annually. Major Chinese car manufacturers include FAW, Dongfeng, Changan, SAIC, Chery, GAC, BAIC, and others. SAIC has been China's largest car exporter for eight years, last year selling 1.208 million overseas.
Your information is not correct.
In 2023, China exported 5.221 million automobiles. (No.1 in the world)
Under the directive of the US, EU must do all it can to stop Chinese EV car sales in EU. This is to ensure China will not control the EV market around the world. China did take the initiative to raise the price of its EV , twice that in China, in EU market so that it can leave some room for the EU car manufacturers a chance to sell their EV in EU. However, the boss in Washington wont buy it. Same policy by US on Chinese solar panels.
My next car will be an exlectric car from China! And I live in Europe.
The winner of EV is the winner in south east Asian and south Amerika EV competition. Thats why BYD start build the Productions factory in Subang Indonesia, and Campinas in Brazil.
The big companies make so much money with replacement parts for combustion engines that they don't won't cheap and easy maintenance electric car's.
Hopefully the customer's wins!
Sure, tell Hertz about it.
The only major car manufacturers left in 5-10 years are Tesla and Chinese ev manufacturers.
💀Legacy auto 💀
Team China 🫰.
China says it helps other countries meet their climate requirements (so China doesn’t have to)😅
usa also is at odds when huawei first spread 5G phone,until themself sell 5G phone
Production and sales plans use to be responded accordingly and these days economics are excuted on profitabilty by which China leads undefeated for the cost per quantity/unit. " money money is not funny ".
No other looks at these things objectively.
Does China have an advantage YES, is it purely subsidies no. China has a large percentage of the world's supple of Lithium
Monday: Nothing is more important than climate change. Ban gas, make EVs! Tuesday: The Chinese make cheap EVs. Wednesday: We’d better stop that immediately.
China has a more mature EV industry than Europe or the US. China started with 300 EV manufacturers. The demand was slow to start with and the number was whittled down to 100. China is finding that they still have too many manufacturers and the big ones (eg SAIC, Gheely, BYD) are absorbing the smaller ones.
In the US, Tesla is keeping up but no-one else is. Mainly because they delayed moving across to manufacturing EVs.
If its gonna make cars cheaper then thats great!
If biden wants us to have electric cara let the cheap 10K Chinese cars in
Agreed
nothing can stop China from creating a new cars any types 😁😁😁
Overcapacity? I’m trying to buy an EV in Canada but it’s so experience I can’t afford it. And Chinese EVs have much better value for money but they effectively ban them.
Overcapacity is a busit invented by the american.
And that's why there's thousands and thousands of acres of electric cars and junk yards
Source ? Proof ?
and I wonder which country is pushing for EVs to be sold everywhere? whose benefit is it?
No need to be at Odds as it's Good for the Global Economy In terms of Energy Transition as everyone's efforts do Payoff.
The Global Economy do get much needed Investments for Energy Transition as to Battle with the Climate Change and why do anyone deny it for oneself.
Protect us market and increasing automobile workers wages. It will be not working.
has'nt the western world relized every thing made in china is 50% cheaper, a few more years your Boeing and airbus be screaming.
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
What's western world ?
Japan china Korea is Eastern workd
Jai Hinduja. We Indian consumers will be able to buy supercheap EVs because of overcapacity.
Stop ICE. Only EV permits.
the u.s. is crazy.
China thought we will develop Ev’s and adopt it faster and also Sell it faster in other Countries but the Catch is The Chinese Manufacturing Western Brands has different Standards and Cheaper cars have Different Standards and Safety & privacy is a always problem with Chinese bands like Byd,MG,Wuling and Neta they Do Gimmicky things to Sell cars 360 ,Jumping cars,Floating cars which eventually Damage car chassis and Types
Why does every thrid word of your comment starts with a Capital letter? very hard to read.
Which country is named west
@@jacksmith-mu3ee Ask White people who Live in Europe or 🏳️🌈North America they can answer this question
American and european dead scare to compete on level playing field with China. They suddenly became chicken when on the other hand they talked of open and free trade when they are on the drivers' seats😂😂😂.
people need to relax first of all its made in china. since when has that tag line been a good thing. Don't forget in china is quantity not quality.
嗯嗯 你说的对
Yer so are western consumers. Not a lot of ppl still able to afford quality after their well paying jobs went to… China
@@piotrklos9543They prefer to live in tents like the native Indians rather than houses. 😂
Because the US and EU are losing.
Go China 🇨🇳 👏 💪
😂Tesla model Y was the Best selling carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023
model Y sales worldwide is only 8% of all electric car sold in 2023. your statement is correct but failed to describe the overall picture.
I'm fine with petrol cars
标配的阴间滤镜来了😂
I'd prefer Japaness or Korean. I will not buy Chinese.
It'll be your loss not theirs. 🤑🤑🤑🤑
Both import from china 😆
@@jacksmith-mu3ee everywhere imports from China
@@jacksmith-mu3ee everyone does...
China's vehicles are built poorly and ridiculous reliability issues.
More byd cars set themselves on fire compared to any other brands
Dont let them in...
We will . Keep your politics out of my wallet
Hilarious
Electric cars aren't cheaper. better or demanded by free market. Overall a bad bet.
所以美国赚不到钱时就不公平了吗？
so they should buy their own production and reserve it to their bff russia and iran =P stop dump their unwanted car into ports waiting, after stealing design. it is obstruction.
Electric grid is not ready anyway.
Word salad 👆👆👆👆
Bbf
Should be investing in public transport. As our populations expand roads will eat into land space that can otherwise be used for residential.
Populations won't be expanding much longer.
Public transportation is for mega-metropolis drones who enjoy city-prisons.
@@PayasosMalvados i live in the city and love it. American suburbs look like places where dreams go to die. i am not American thank the stars.
China BYD is making the busses in California
That's no excuse for my chicken cully and flied lice taking over an hour to be delivered last night.
Forgot the flee plawn clackas as well 😡
Wait until the start of race Armement ,😂😂😂
Ban all CCP EVs. Hydro is the future!
Start with yourself. Show video racist ladies
No one wants any EV garbage
Tesla model Y was the Best selling carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023
Tesla model Y was the Best selling carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023
Tesla model Y was the Best selling carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023.
Best selling car says otherwise. #1 car manufacturer says otherwise
Then at are they sold
Normal CCP strategy here. Subsidies, flood the world with goods - much of it is of dubious quality.
based China. that's real capitalism.
If the quality is bad then the market will not allow China to succeed, so then what is the fear of Chinese cars?
first artificially make them cheap with state subsidies. then when all other competitors run out business, dictate the market with real face. never trust china.
China rules 21st century
Cope.
If China was a truly free market economy, without government subsidies, they would not be able to compete with the West. The West has had 100 years to hone it's skills in the real world, China has had 30 years of government handouts.
Being excellent is not a sin