I couldn’t agree more, it’s actually laughable that a character like mantis gets a figure update before a character like Tobey Maguire Spider-Man. He’s a generational icon and is THE spiderman. Hot toys clearly don’t give a shit about Tobey. Great video
I am all for respectfully letting HT know what could be improved, like how Daniel clearly articulates his points on FB with reference photos. It is really confusing how HT seems to neglect some really popular primary characters, but show extreme attention to detail with supporting characters. Great vid man!
Exactly, idk why people hate on people for trying to get the word out to fix figures that can be better. It’s so strange to me. Appreciate it, Thanks for watching bro!
Interesting thoughts! I love the passionate takes. I dont totally agree this specifically is the straw breaking the camels back though. In many ways, it does highlight the inconsistency in their approach to their craft /art. But it also gives me some hope that if they do start giving characters like mantis more love, maybe we will see that translate to others as well like Tobey! It's overly optimistic maybe, but the science and tech continues to improve. The ability to render likeness and apply insane paint work. Plus they need to save something for all the 3.0's!! 😅🤙
That’s fair bro, I view it more as inconsistent as we’ve already had a far share of upgrades in the past (peacemaker, mysterio new head sculpt) and others. But future figures not getting the same attention. Thanks for watching and giving your take on it 👌
valid points and oftentimes it's commentary like this that makes me do a double-take and appreciate the attention to nuances that i may overlook all too casually. for an avid spider-man fan such as yourself i really hope your wishes come true and HT updates the black suit tobey
You can make the exact same argument with Batman begins. They make 50 dark knight versions but keep the dogshit begins one alone for good. Great business practices hot toys ✅ joke of a company sometimes
The issue is Hot Toys has no dialogue with their customers. It's all one-way communication with Facebook announcements and "blogger photo" posts. If there's no transparency and evidence that they're listening to customers you get frustrations like you're articulating. I love their products but I can appreciate your concerns.
We dont know for sure they aren't updating Tobey. They didn't announce the update on mantis until release. That said, this was just updated head sculpt where they had a new proto from the GOG3 line. Theh didnt put new engineering into it.
That’s valid, hopefully it ends up actually updating 👌 but this can be said for other figures that do release that they get wrong. Like the red suit tobey
%100 agree. It’s ridiculous and so obvious that they do it knowingly. The Fives helmet is them being cheap not wanting to make a new mold, so they proceed to reuse items knowing that is inaccurate. As small as that is, it’s what bothers me the most. They don’t hesitate to raise their prices, but can’t even invest a little more in accuracy? C’mon now
I have to disagree. We had no idea this was being updated until they released it. So we have no idea if they're updating tobey and we probably won't know until it releases.
That’s fair, but remember. Figures even such the red and blue tobey released fully and came out wrong again. So it’s sort of redundant even with past releases, doc ock as well. I was just highlighting Tobey because I created the movement. Thanks for watching
Completely agree, sucks how any and all constructive criticism is disregarded by majority of collectors as complaining. Like we are criticizing it because we love it and want it to be better, and if hot toys listens to the feedback and makes changes to make it better? Everyone wins in the end because we get a better figure.
There’s people out there who get upset, at figure collectors getting upset, over trying to make better figures... some strange times we live in. Thanks for watching and glad you understood the point of the video 🫡
Would love to see a video about the inart joker being lazy and cheap with the batches that suffered immense quality drops after the influencer ones. Be fair.
I can cover this if it holds true. But I’ve seen people get later jokers that look exactly like mine. And I got mine fairly early. The QC issues with joker doesn’t seem to be a common thing. This also has nothing to do with this video as I’m regarding prototypes and changing them
Another example of they making big improvements over the prototype was Peacemaker. They announced it with a horrendous body, but the final product was a work of art. Hope the Blacksuit Tobey gets fixed too. Cheers
Nice video, Riley. Just like I said on Facebook, I won’t write out my thoughts as it’d be long winded, but I admire your passion and glad you expressed your own thoughts on this matter. Ideally, we’d all want more accuracy and for Hot Toys to be consistent across the board; they’re more than capable of putting more effort into the details. Appreciate the shoutouts (Sidious and Fives helmet). And lastly, can’t not mention the fact that you butchered my last name smh.. #fixblacksuittobey
It’s so funny because as I said it I knew I butchered it lol. Thanks for watching bro, I agree. Not sure why people take such offense to it, I can’t speak for you but trying to make figures the best possible would be a good thing for everyone. That’s how I see it. Thanks for watching 🙌 hopefully sidious and fives also get done justice
Yet whenever someone points out that, they will be attacked by tons of people online, especially on reddit. Hottoys charge a premium price but their quality is about the same as hasbro, even the designs are less lively, lot of structures are sculpted digitally without putting much efforts, look at their armoured batman 2.0, the horns are rectangular and not refined like the original release, their newer products are all like that more angular and rough, it's like someone simply putting shapes together then call it finished. I don't think 'better' paintjob is enough to be regarded as premium, especially that their qc is not as good as back in the day.
I cannot stand that, how people can actually be mad at people trying to make a figure better. If anything you should be rooted on! Leads to toxic conversations definitely, thank you for sharing your insights
@@J_NC_B THANK YOU! Me and nicks_collectibles actually started a movement and have been commenting #FixBlackSuitTobey on their posts. Hopefully change happens
Another example of them being lazy All Clonetrooper hands, always the same few Commander Cody hands repainted Stop it Hot Toys. All figures have been cheating us on hands lately, too few.
I agree with you. Hot Toys company creator Mr. Howard Chen said, “ His company strives to make the most accurate representation of sixth scale figures”. It was his passion as a collector, who could not purchase accurate figures, which led to him starting his company. If they are not delivering on that promise, then they should be calling out about it. Hot Toys is selling their products for a good sum of money and collectors deserve not to be cheated on accuracy. I have heard time and time again to vote with your wallet but sometimes speaking up can help get the corrected figures into our hands. The Tony Stank incident is a good example. Keep fighting the good fight and I hope they hear you and do what’s best.
I really appreciate this comment and agree. For the price we’re paying and figures like Tobey Maguire and RDJ get mistreated is a shame. Thanks for watching!
Goooood let the hate flow through you. I love this, and believe this is a step in the right direction for content creation. Keep doing you bro, I’m here for it!!! #FixBlackSuitTobey
Absolutely agree brother!! I know you can't please everyone, but be consistent...I am waiting on my Mace but can already see from other posts that they did not nail the head sculpt...but I am optimistic! Thanks for the honest opinions and putting this together! Strong work 💪🏻🔥
Dude solid points for sure. That Mantis does look crazy good tho. Reminds me of that theory that HTs goes OFF on figures that are less popular. But will take the easy route with figures of super popular characters. As a big Tobey and Spidey fan, im actually passing on the Symbiote Tobey and pretty happy I am doing so, bc i def wont be giving them anymore money from my wallet towards inaccurate Tobey Spideys. Rather it go to the customizers that will make me accurate and better looking figures 🙌
I respect that bro, I do think this theory holds true. Which is unfortunate, why wouldn’t you want to knock out even your A-list characters! Thanks for watching
I'm 100% with you on black suit spiderman I regret pre ordering it. That and I hate we get none of Spiderman bad guys from the games.. or other bad guys from movies like namor
Get used to it fellas, hot toys has been disappointing It's supporters for over 10 years. I came into the 1/6th scale game in 2010 ish. There has been figures shown that even never got made. Example - some Terminator figures were shown as a teaser or prototype that never got made. They pick and choose what they want not what we want. And now since they're in bed with Disney and marvel. They're going to cater to what they want. You damn right Tobey Maguire Spider-Man is the Spider-Man. They're just going to give you a mediocre figure but fix an issue with a NPC character like mantis
Exactly, I do understand the argument that license issues may have to do with it but that can also be a scapegoat to hot toys constantly prioritizing some figures while lacking with others. Thanks for watching and providing great thoughts bro
A couple of things here, you’re constantly complaining about making changes to the black suit Spider-Man and the figure has not even been released yet so we ultimately don’t know what the end product is going to look like. If you cared that much about this character and hot toys made something that was not to your standard you would pass on the figure But I can probably guarantee you’re buying it regardless of how it turns out. Maybe ask John from in art if they can make you one?
Real collectors vote with their wallet. Ht have made hundreds of figures with only a few lackluster ones. 20+ years in business, no other company can compare. If a figure doesn't meet standards, don't buy.
@@kalibkadafi7747 If someone isn't happy with the product HT makes, its very easy don't buy like you said but the fact is people don't have the balls to do that at the end of the day. If a character that is so beloved is not being made to someone's standards go the custom route and have it made perfectly. Going custom is to much for many hence why they will continue to buy Hot Toys lol He will still buy this figure to review it for his channel to either bash it or praise it so this rant video is pointless.
You do realize the red & blue tobey “released” and also has the same accuracy issues? So your point that it hasn’t released yet is a little redundant. I highlighted black suit tobey, but this can be said for any amount of figures, like the released doc ock that never changed? This video wasn’t made just for prototypes. If I do buy it and it stays the same I will get it custom done. Thanks for watching my content bro!
yeah man, It's so cool that Mantis got this update, BUT that means they listen to our feedback and choose to do nothing, cause they know is gonna sell anyway, ESPECIALLY Black Suit Tobey. LISTEN YOUR COLLECTORS HOT TOYS #FixBlackSuitTobey
They aren’t cheap nor lazy and I think people should show some respect and patience for the company that there willingly giving money to and that have already given many extraordinary figures that collectors like us enjoy. It’s unfair to criticize and make up your own allegations against them without knowing the full picture. Criticizing them like this just makes us seem ungrateful and it doesn’t make Hot toys want to give us their best work.
I understand the frustration for sure, but what’s the counter to this, saying nothing and accepting non accurate products? Like I said, I understand very minor details, but sometimes it’s just too drastic and leaves big fans of the character like me and others dissatisfied. Again, I just want to provide clarity, my intention isn’t to hate
It’s unfair to criticize the multimillion dollar company that expects US to pay for their figures? LOL this comment is bootlicking personified, have some self respect man
It isn’t fair to criticize the multimillion dollar company that has shown multiple times they aren’t afraid to cut corners and be lazy while expecting us to pay a premium for it? Just look at the most recent Batman Begins figure… Have some self respect man, cause your comment is bootlicking to a T
There probably going to make only one mantis like yondu and she will be highly sought after down the road and you will have to pay double on eBay so quit bitching we have how many spiderman almost as much as iron man
Comment #FixBlackSuitTobey for a cookie 🍪
where do i get the spiderman toys at
@@darkness0823 sideshow.com
I couldn’t agree more, it’s actually laughable that a character like mantis gets a figure update before a character like Tobey Maguire Spider-Man. He’s a generational icon and is THE spiderman. Hot toys clearly don’t give a shit about Tobey. Great video
Mind boggling to say the least, the goat deserves justice
that’s not spider man , that’s spooder man
@@hi-yg8ql on god lol 😂
I am all for respectfully letting HT know what could be improved, like how Daniel clearly articulates his points on FB with reference photos. It is really confusing how HT seems to neglect some really popular primary characters, but show extreme attention to detail with supporting characters. Great vid man!
Exactly, idk why people hate on people for trying to get the word out to fix figures that can be better. It’s so strange to me. Appreciate it, Thanks for watching bro!
@Riley.Reviews Of course man! Keep up the great work.
Interesting thoughts! I love the passionate takes. I dont totally agree this specifically is the straw breaking the camels back though. In many ways, it does highlight the inconsistency in their approach to their craft /art. But it also gives me some hope that if they do start giving characters like mantis more love, maybe we will see that translate to others as well like Tobey! It's overly optimistic maybe, but the science and tech continues to improve. The ability to render likeness and apply insane paint work. Plus they need to save something for all the 3.0's!! 😅🤙
That’s fair bro, I view it more as inconsistent as we’ve already had a far share of upgrades in the past (peacemaker, mysterio new head sculpt) and others. But future figures not getting the same attention. Thanks for watching and giving your take on it 👌
We need to start a petition for a new Mace Windu head-sculpt.
@@Bonoiscoolful it already releases so I doubt it will happen anymore, that’s one that was heavily off as well
valid points and oftentimes it's commentary like this that makes me do a double-take and appreciate the attention to nuances that i may overlook all too casually. for an avid spider-man fan such as yourself i really hope your wishes come true and HT updates the black suit tobey
I really appreciate that bro! If it does end up changing me and tons of other tobey fans will rejoice ☝️
You can make the exact same argument with Batman begins. They make 50 dark knight versions but keep the dogshit begins one alone for good. Great business practices hot toys ✅ joke of a company sometimes
Yea tbh Batman begins fans got absolutely robbed 😭
The issue is Hot Toys has no dialogue with their customers. It's all one-way communication with Facebook announcements and "blogger photo" posts. If there's no transparency and evidence that they're listening to customers you get frustrations like you're articulating. I love their products but I can appreciate your concerns.
Exactly, there’s no way of knowing the actual reason why this happens because they are radio silent. I appreciate you watching and providing insights!
I love my doc ock figure. Looks amazing. Is the sculpt accurate perhaps not. But with the glasses on it looks like an awesome figure. One of my favs
@@nicholashollingsworth7215 I think when the glasses are on it looks totally fine! Thanks for watching
We dont know for sure they aren't updating Tobey. They didn't announce the update on mantis until release. That said, this was just updated head sculpt where they had a new proto from the GOG3 line. Theh didnt put new engineering into it.
That’s valid, hopefully it ends up actually updating 👌 but this can be said for other figures that do release that they get wrong. Like the red suit tobey
%100 agree. It’s ridiculous and so obvious that they do it knowingly. The Fives helmet is them being cheap not wanting to make a new mold, so they proceed to reuse items knowing that is inaccurate. As small as that is, it’s what bothers me the most. They don’t hesitate to raise their prices, but can’t even invest a little more in accuracy? C’mon now
Exactly, I just feel we need more consistency especially for characters of this magnitude!! Thanks for watching bro
I have to disagree. We had no idea this was being updated until they released it. So we have no idea if they're updating tobey and we probably won't know until it releases.
That’s fair, but remember. Figures even such the red and blue tobey released fully and came out wrong again. So it’s sort of redundant even with past releases, doc ock as well. I was just highlighting Tobey because I created the movement. Thanks for watching
Completely agree, sucks how any and all constructive criticism is disregarded by majority of collectors as complaining. Like we are criticizing it because we love it and want it to be better, and if hot toys listens to the feedback and makes changes to make it better? Everyone wins in the end because we get a better figure.
There’s people out there who get upset, at figure collectors getting upset, over trying to make better figures... some strange times we live in. Thanks for watching and glad you understood the point of the video 🫡
Would love to see a video about the inart joker being lazy and cheap with the batches that suffered immense quality drops after the influencer ones. Be fair.
I can cover this if it holds true. But I’ve seen people get later jokers that look exactly like mine. And I got mine fairly early. The QC issues with joker doesn’t seem to be a common thing. This also has nothing to do with this video as I’m regarding prototypes and changing them
Another example of they making big improvements over the prototype was Peacemaker. They announced it with a horrendous body, but the final product was a work of art. Hope the Blacksuit Tobey gets fixed too.
Cheers
Exactly! Speaking out does numbers to figures such as that, thanks for providing great insights and for watching 🙌
Nice video, Riley.
Just like I said on Facebook, I won’t write out my thoughts as it’d be long winded, but I admire your passion and glad you expressed your own thoughts on this matter. Ideally, we’d all want more accuracy and for Hot Toys to be consistent across the board; they’re more than capable of putting more effort into the details.
Appreciate the shoutouts (Sidious and Fives helmet). And lastly, can’t not mention the fact that you butchered my last name smh..
#fixblacksuittobey
It’s so funny because as I said it I knew I butchered it lol. Thanks for watching bro, I agree. Not sure why people take such offense to it, I can’t speak for you but trying to make figures the best possible would be a good thing for everyone. That’s how I see it. Thanks for watching 🙌 hopefully sidious and fives also get done justice
Hot Toys are banging out the figures, but quality is slipping on some, not all! Just got Mighty Thor and She-Hulk, both have superb head sculpts!
Love to see those turn out great. They’re definitely on it I just wish figures that are so popular didn’t turn out so lackluster!
#FixBlackSuitTobey !! Proud of you
Thank you :)
Yet whenever someone points out that, they will be attacked by tons of people online, especially on reddit.
Hottoys charge a premium price but their quality is about the same as hasbro, even the designs are less lively, lot of structures are sculpted digitally without putting much efforts, look at their armoured batman 2.0, the horns are rectangular and not refined like the original release, their newer products are all like that more angular and rough, it's like someone simply putting shapes together then call it finished.
I don't think 'better' paintjob is enough to be regarded as premium, especially that their qc is not as good as back in the day.
I cannot stand that, how people can actually be mad at people trying to make a figure better. If anything you should be rooted on! Leads to toxic conversations definitely, thank you for sharing your insights
Black suit Tobey needs a mask rework and a body change bad ngl.
They be mistreating the raimi figures like crazy besides goblin..
@@J_NC_B THANK YOU! Me and nicks_collectibles actually started a movement and have been commenting #FixBlackSuitTobey on their posts. Hopefully change happens
Another example of them being lazy
All Clonetrooper hands, always the same few Commander Cody hands repainted
Stop it Hot Toys. All figures have been cheating us on hands lately, too few.
Right, I’m just tired of the inconsistency at times!
If you want to expect such quality, it's not possible until 10 years later. Or maybe it's possible at JND Studio..
Possibly !
I will never forgive hot toys for that trash Supergirl figure from the flash😭😭😭
Bro ign even covered it. It was bad 😂
I agree with you. Hot Toys company creator Mr. Howard Chen said, “ His company strives to make the most accurate representation of sixth scale figures”. It was his passion as a collector, who could not purchase accurate figures, which led to him starting his company. If they are not delivering on that promise, then they should be calling out about it. Hot Toys is selling their products for a good sum of money and collectors deserve not to be cheated on accuracy. I have heard time and time again to vote with your wallet but sometimes speaking up can help get the corrected figures into our hands. The Tony Stank incident is a good example. Keep fighting the good fight and I hope they hear you and do what’s best.
Almost forgot #FixBlackSuitTobey
I really appreciate this comment and agree. For the price we’re paying and figures like Tobey Maguire and RDJ get mistreated is a shame. Thanks for watching!
Goooood let the hate flow through you. I love this, and believe this is a step in the right direction for content creation. Keep doing you bro, I’m here for it!!! #FixBlackSuitTobey
Gotta be honest. Thanks bro, trying!
HT is been lazy for years, only the newbies notice that recently. But don't say that loud because some people will scream 😂
lol 😂 alrighty then
Hot toys sunk and “invested substantial time in studying…” mantis? Mantis.. Lmfao, this company makes interesting decisions #FixBlackSuitTobey
When it’s hot toys you have to think opposite logic
I see your points, I am surprised by the choices HT chose to rework figures….thanks for airing this to the community
I really appreciate that bro! Thanks for watching
Absolutely agree brother!! I know you can't please everyone, but be consistent...I am waiting on my Mace but can already see from other posts that they did not nail the head sculpt...but I am optimistic! Thanks for the honest opinions and putting this together! Strong work 💪🏻🔥
Appreciate that a lot brother! Yeah mace is a controversial one, thanks for watching
Dude solid points for sure. That Mantis does look crazy good tho. Reminds me of that theory that HTs goes OFF on figures that are less popular. But will take the easy route with figures of super popular characters. As a big Tobey and Spidey fan, im actually passing on the Symbiote Tobey and pretty happy I am doing so, bc i def wont be giving them anymore money from my wallet towards inaccurate Tobey Spideys. Rather it go to the customizers that will make me accurate and better looking figures 🙌
I respect that bro, I do think this theory holds true. Which is unfortunate, why wouldn’t you want to knock out even your A-list characters! Thanks for watching
@@Riley.Reviews oh and #FixBlackSuitTobey
INART should come and justice the Tobey spiderman figures , hot toys suck at that
Say it louder for the people!
I'm 100% with you on black suit spiderman I regret pre ordering it. That and I hate we get none of Spiderman bad guys from the games.. or other bad guys from movies like namor
Yeah they brush off a lot of the villains with NWH as the exception. I really hope black suit Tobey changes, thanks for watching
So does this mean you will stop buying hot toys?
It makes me feel more doubt with future orders that have accuracy issues, which is unfortunate
They wait for an new figure to improve the sculpt
Another great theory!
Get used to it fellas, hot toys has been disappointing It's supporters for over 10 years. I came into the 1/6th scale game in 2010 ish. There has been figures shown that even never got made.
Example - some Terminator figures were shown as a teaser or prototype that never got made.
They pick and choose what they want not what we want. And now since they're in bed with Disney and marvel. They're going to cater to what they want.
You damn right Tobey Maguire Spider-Man is the Spider-Man. They're just going to give you a mediocre figure but fix an issue with a NPC character like mantis
Exactly, I do understand the argument that license issues may have to do with it but that can also be a scapegoat to hot toys constantly prioritizing some figures while lacking with others. Thanks for watching and providing great thoughts bro
A couple of things here, you’re constantly complaining about making changes to the black suit Spider-Man and the figure has not even been released yet so we ultimately don’t know what the end product is going to look like. If you cared that much about this character and hot toys made something that was not to your standard you would pass on the figure But I can probably guarantee you’re buying it regardless of how it turns out. Maybe ask John from in art if they can make you one?
😂😂😂 facts
Real collectors vote with their wallet. Ht have made hundreds of figures with only a few lackluster ones. 20+ years in business, no other company can compare. If a figure doesn't meet standards, don't buy.
@@kalibkadafi7747 If someone isn't happy with the product HT makes, its very easy don't buy like you said but the fact is people don't have the balls to do that at the end of the day. If a character that is so beloved is not being made to someone's standards go the custom route and have it made perfectly. Going custom is to much for many hence why they will continue to buy Hot Toys lol He will still buy this figure to review it for his channel to either bash it or praise it so this rant video is pointless.
You do realize the red & blue tobey “released” and also has the same accuracy issues? So your point that it hasn’t released yet is a little redundant. I highlighted black suit tobey, but this can be said for any amount of figures, like the released doc ock that never changed? This video wasn’t made just for prototypes. If I do buy it and it stays the same I will get it custom done. Thanks for watching my content bro!
Don’t like it, don’t buy it! Don’t agree with that mentality but that’s just me 👌
who does it better than hot toys?
I would still say hot toys is best due to the high volume figures they pump out, but, inart is closest
yeah man, It's so cool that Mantis got this update, BUT that means they listen to our feedback and choose to do nothing, cause they know is gonna sell anyway, ESPECIALLY Black Suit Tobey.
LISTEN YOUR COLLECTORS HOT TOYS #FixBlackSuitTobey
Right, since they know it’s popular and will sell they decide to do nothing, just doesn’t seem fair
They aren’t cheap nor lazy and I think people should show some respect and patience for the company that there willingly giving money to and that have already given many extraordinary figures that collectors like us enjoy. It’s unfair to criticize and make up your own allegations against them without knowing the full picture. Criticizing them like this just makes us seem ungrateful and it doesn’t make Hot toys want to give us their best work.
I understand the frustration for sure, but what’s the counter to this, saying nothing and accepting non accurate products? Like I said, I understand very minor details, but sometimes it’s just too drastic and leaves big fans of the character like me and others dissatisfied. Again, I just want to provide clarity, my intention isn’t to hate
It’s unfair to criticize the multimillion dollar company that expects US to pay for their figures? LOL this comment is bootlicking personified, have some self respect man
It isn’t fair to criticize the multimillion dollar company that has shown multiple times they aren’t afraid to cut corners and be lazy while expecting us to pay a premium for it? Just look at the most recent Batman Begins figure… Have some self respect man, cause your comment is bootlicking to a T
In the words of red letter media: “Don’t ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product”.
You're fighting the good fight Riley. #SaveTobey
Appreciate you brother!
Update mantis and here comes another iron man 🤣 I know it sells yada yada lol
lol 😂 it’s the repeating cycle
Been saying this for sooooooo long! But I'm not a youtuber so my opinion doesn't mean shit😂😂
thanks for this 👏🏽💯👏🏽
Don’t say that bro! You always have a voice no matter if you do UA-cam or not 👌 appreciate it
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Thanks for watching
Both new Tobey Maguire figures a total letdowns for me, a die hard fan. It’s a shame
Correct, for such an iconic character it’s truly unfortunate :(
Superman from justice league is of those figures that aren’t accurate
Exactly, needs retooling!
There probably going to make only one mantis like yondu and she will be highly sought after down the road and you will have to pay double on eBay so quit bitching we have how many spiderman almost as much as iron man
Damn shots fired! Thanks for watching