Unfortunately, most Africans are mentally enslaved so much that we continue to hate ourselves. You can’t hate the roots of the tree without ending up hating the tree. You can’t hate your origin without ending up hating yourself. You can’t hate the land, your motherland, the place that you come from, and we can’t hate Africa without ending up hating ourselves. We need to embrace what's authentically ours and not borrowed religions. We need to embrace our authentic Alkebulan spirituality ❤ Everything the oyinbo brought to the Alkebulan was meant to stop us from connecting to the origin source they way our ancestors did. The moment we embraced their religion was the moment the Alkebulan has never remained the same.
Christianity has shaped the world not just africa however, the present day Church has brought misrepresentation to the Christian faith when i say christian faith i want you to understand the Christianity as a religion is entirely different from the Christian faith and the real christianity has always been metamorphosis in every generation. When the pure christian faith started in Jerusalem and Judea it started as an underground fellowship which we can refer to as a Cult in our modern language, when the church enters Greece it became a Philosophy, when it gets to Rome it became an Institution, when it enters Europe it became a Culture and when it gets to America it became an Enterprise and when the church returns back to Africa pls note that the Church was in Africa from the onset but could not stand because of the gross darkness in Africa when it now comes back the Church doubles as both Business and Personal Empire. Note that am using the Church and Christianity interchangeably.The methodology of practice is the bane of christianity today and that has sends wrong signal to majority of people and that is why lots of people are ridiculing Christianity. To say whether Christianity has impacted the world is an understatement not just impacting the world it is the Church that is Keeping the world together, if the Church is taken away from the world today then the world seize to exist. When we really understand pure christianity we will understand what the LOVE OF GOD in its real form and essence. May God help us to understand him better in Jesus name.
@@Jade_EnDefending or laying out facts. How is what you believe in the truth if Christianity is not the truth. You have to bring evidence and proof and not just talk down on another person's belief
@@segunowolabi4118 Really? Talk down on someone else's belief...is that what you see in my reply?... Also, you are demanding evidence and truth when you already conclude in your mind that whatever you believe is the truth. Well, the truth doesn't work that way, unless, of course you have another definition of the truth 🤷🏽♂️
Both Seun & Daddy Freeze are talking too much. The pastor's primary argument was a philosophical one. About how much the church has contributed to the gross development of the Nigerian society, even with all its internal flaws. Their rebuttals were instead sentimental and debunking, rather than addressed to the pastor's primary argument. From a layman's perspective, anchored on what the pastor's argument was, the church has indeed superseded all traditional religions in Nigeria, in its contribution to the gross development of our society. And in fact, a lot of the menaces that still bedevil our society, which include ritual killings, are still in existence all thanks to our traditional religions. Fullstop.
Yes the church is the only thing that matters to this country. Even our leaders know this. You know the multitude that attends church programs from all over the world.
The church does not supersede ALL traditional religion, you just have never cared to studied. Your claim of human sacrifice, how is it different when churches stop people from taking medication or accepting blood transfusion allowing them to die, how is it less human sacrifice? Child abuse by priests. Some pastor that burn their members... I know you will argue those are the false ones, but guess what, the same can be argued for traditional. Actually, very few believed in sacrifice, in fact insignificant number. Christianity itself evolved from a barbaric religion, Jephtha sacrificed his daughter, Abraham almost did, Children are stoned to death for disobeying parents, People were killed for fornication, The people commit genecide of communities, killing both parent and children. God disowned King Saul because he did not kill everyone. God killed the child of David for what David did, Moses sacrificed the first born of Egyptians, after God deliberately made Pharoah stubborn. Even after evolving, the Christianity itself did the crusade, burning of women they called witches, teaching slaves to be submissive and yield to oppression, working with colonisers. Christianity is teaching people to accept bad government and not to revolve against it. In contrast, most traditional religion are peaceful and would have evolved even better if given the time.
@@dolapoogunsanlu6865and how has ifa worship contributed anything to Nigeria. Churches have employed people and connected people amongst many other things. If you don't know...churches have played a great role in the health sector of this country. So again...how has ifa worship contributed anything to this country.
Pastor Femi, God will bless you. Anytime a genuine pastor preaches, evil people are angry. I dont understand. Freeze need schooling. A small child in the children church of Deeper life will beat freeze hands down. Because he caused chaos about tithe and the jelly fish christians got confused, he thinks he can confise everyone.
MUGU, your country is being destroyed, no prayer you give now or your celebrity pastor gives go stop what is to come. Next year everything will be double and triple in price . MUGU
If a man is passionate about evil he will defend it, so also, if a man is passion about good he will defined it. Between evil and good, which do you want, choose one. Good good is associate with God in Christ. Evil and deep evil is associated with evil men and satanist. Choose whom you will follow this day. Ultimately, Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one come to God except through Him, Jesus.
But you didn't talk about Quran Islam . Of course you know Christianity is calm .The day you talk about Islam you will be buttered at you home. I'm a Muslim and I believe God exist.
Some parts of Yoruba land kills twins. They use to kill twins in my hometown in Ekiti state and some part of Osun state.. you can only know what you are exposed to.
Christianity saved Africa....the killing of twins was stopped by a Christian missionary....How many schools do we have in Africa before Christian missionaries came? That European colonized Africa should not make anyone to underrate the impact of Christianity in development of Africa.
Using many developmental indices, are we better now? - Are we more moral or Godly? - Are we more intelligent. Do we invent things? - Are we richer? - Are we more organized?
@@alabaolawole4912 I don't think so. Be it Islam or Christianity, both has been exploiyed as a weapon to keep people at bay. I was speaking with a friend lately and i explained hw the potency of ITAGIRI(Christmas Melon) as an antibiotic is stronger than Erythromycin [Read research conducted on it] and our forefathers have been usin this thing to fight ailment for millenials. This means that they also exercised some form of civilization in their rights.. So many of our things did not grow because these people wanted to paint us as savages. They stereotyped black community as populated by barbarians and Religion was just their tool in this quest. If i put my car's battery outside and place the freshly plucked innard growings of the palm tree (MARIWO) on it, i bet you, nobody would go there. You could try it as practice and take something that this object has been placed on.. These things were real and had a way of homing a rather sane community. The atrocities that have and are being performed under the cover of religion is alarming.. Insofar as i understand, we had our own civilization, unique of it's kind. Our art, Our Medicine, Our craft have all been taken away by these so called missionaries and all we have today is a dysfunctional society full of holy liars and thieves. I wish Africa could do better.
@@JoJo-tm4wdyou are the fool hear because I don’t see anything bad in what he said that made you call him ode. Make Una Dey use una brain, don’t be daft.
Church is supposed to be owned collectively and not by an individual. When we want to build, every body contributes, but after building one person will take over. Others that contributed can go there for personal retreat.
God bless you my brother,let Femi come here in Greece where the whole new testament was written......Femi is one the slave master... what do you expect from him ... education originated from Africa
These gates of hell shall never prevail against the church. The more they hit the more outdated they become. I stand with Pastor Lazarus. If not for the Church, many people will be worse than bokoharam, inclusing Freeze and Seun. I leave you with this: If you think The Church is a perfect place where you go and see all the saints, you need to think again cos the devil will be very happy with you...
You said if not for the church How many churches are there in China and India why are they doing better than us? I know your answer will be ; its because we have "Bad leaders". But our leaders are all Christians and Muslims. So what will be your next point?😂😂
Fela had a native doctor he brought from one of the neighbouring countries in his pursuit of ancestral worship and the need to speak to his late mother. It was this marabout that told Fela to travel with excess forex which got Fela jailed. After Fela's sentencing, his boys beat up the native doctor and almost killed him. After Fela got out of prison, he stopped ancestral worship and his quest to speak to his late mother. Seun needs to realise he is not as clever as he thinks, taking on the church is a wrong move.
Seun should not use any music instruments made by the White man since he felt they have slavery mentality. He should also quite the UA-cam. You dont talk because you have mouth, you talk because you know what to say and not attacking. Remind him also, that his uncle and father have Ransom to their name, which i suppose it is English name. This is not about been african or Asian,it is about been you. Man is forever limited without God and here he is, he does not believe in God. His ancestors are more important than God. We know how those "ancestors " ended up anyways. We also know how those who embraced God ended.
You see that man called daddy freeze he survives on clout! He must do or say something to trend by force, so I’m not surprised when he keeps attacking all pastors, both fake and real pastors. What baffles me is the group of people that rely on him for validation and guidance. 😂. I can’t imagine some people mirror their lives after these so called celebrities.
Neither Freeze nor Ṣeun provided a superior argument. Freeze talked about the remote cases of killing of twins in Nigeria but didn't address the issue of ritual killings and our chiefs/kings contributions to slave trade. Seun on his part just danced around the topic, asking people to go read a book. I expected he would have given a more accurate historical account of how our ancestors were absolutely innocent of the allegations the pastor raised. The truth is both the Europeans and our ancestors were partners in the slave trade business, however with time the Europeans overran their partners and established colonialism. Speaking of the Europeans, not every of them bought into the slavery/colonialism trade, some were of a noble mind and sought the true liberation of all mankind inclusive of Africans. This is not to say that the church at some point did not participate and benefit from slavery/colonialism. My point is not every European/organ of the church were complicit.
That we trade ourselves and fought war was the way of the world as at that time. The European came to exploit and it was acceptable as at that time. That was the way of the world as at then. We really need to know who we are.
The first mission of Oyibo when they arrived Africa was to make you hate your ancestors/forefathers. Once you don't like them, you won't like yourself. Trust me, there was nothing our forefathers practised then that Oyibo people didn't do worse. Do you want to compare the numbers kpai through rituals and the 10m King Leopard kpai. Do you know how many people crusaders kpai? Do you know Israel used to practise human sacrifice? Have you heard of gladiators who fight themselves to death and people will be watching and laughing, using human lives for sport.
Keep quiet , is it not the members money they use in building whatever business deir into ? Or u tink say dey get money open business without contributions of his church
@@franklinchibuike905 believe whatever you choose to believe, but know that Pastors can survive very well without a dime from their churches, especially the genuine ones who are not into it to take financial advantage of their flock.
@@emmywealthfilms1524 making yourself available for the lord's work does not require publicity and the message of Jesus Christ is all about salvation and not a battle between the church and others.
@@DAI-yw3vk for the fact that you said it doesn't require publicity shows you are just a charlatan. You really do not know. Secondly the church is not in battle with anyone. Someone preached a msg and unbelievers gathered to analyze wat they do not know. Who is battling who? You can't fight the church nor the men. Just wasting ur data
There was kịllị̀ng of twins somewhere in Nigeria and the women happened to have lived and worked in that area and part of her legacy was to see such cultural practices stopped. The pastor never said Mary Slessor came to stop something that was not existing nor did he suggest it was happening everywhere. Nigeria has different cultural practices, some may have been considered normal or good by the practioners then but maybe not today again.
Is Calaba Nigeria? Have you done research to be certain that she actually stopped it abi you are suffering from the wrong curriculum that was fed you with?
the funny thing is that ,all the must wicked people are already born again if not so things will have been way too worse then this ...all this guys talking online are not even wicked ...if not for the church things would have gone bad in africa and even the whole world at large ....i just watch all this guys fighting the church and laugh ,they don`t know the impact of the church ...
I don't think pastor Femi really understand while Christians takes some of the names such as Lazarus and co, you don't become Lazarus because you belong to a particular worship center or because you attend churches every Sundays and Wednesdays, someone that even mentioned Christmas as a way of given back to the people Christmas of that matter Christmas that's not even mentioned in the Bible Meanwhile Ṣeun Kuti, the Bible is not a stupid book, To people like me the Bible is an excellent reality That words became flesh in me.
Bro its very obvious why seun kuti called it a ????? Book. Christians attack other religious groups and make dem a villain. Especially a man called King James that has version of the Bible, committed on of the greatest atrocities.
Seun I like u so much, I like ur beliefs but please don't call the Bible a stupid book again. The Bible is not a stupid book please don't say that again. The Bible is the greatest book but they intentionally interpreted it wrongly to us just to satisfy their selfish interest. There a lot of truths in the Bible.
Igbo and the books he is reading is worrying him.No respect at all. The igbo he learnt to spoke from his father that marries 27 wives and walk with pants with his sick moving left to right were their are young girls around is worrying him. What do you expect from the son of a prostitute.
Daddy Freeze who couldn't succeed in his Nollywood career and Seun Kuti who keeps struggling with his music career are contesting with a whose voice is endorsed by heaven. Seun Kuti should be ashamed of himself I believe his father will be grossly disappointed in him.
That baby 🍼🍼🍼 freeze at his age ask him when marry slessor came to Nigeria was any state like EBONYI STATE SHE CAME 1876 EBONYI WAS FORM 1996 THAT MAN IS TO BABYISH 🍼🍼
Daddy freeze, freeze oh. He didn't insist it happened in Yoruba land. He only said in Nigeria. Is Calabar not Nigeria? Abeg make una stop this confusion Joo. In Africa we no bury kings with people? Why are you guys silent on that? All the kings that claimed next to divinity, what is the reality today? Does any human being have a different biology? Abeg oh.
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
This is a very sumlkd question to answer on a individual basis. Answers will depend on experiences. In it’s purest & holiest form, if had been good, Bug does that form exist in abundance? Girls who lost their virginity to their pastors in prayer rooms might disagree. Young men who have had their hard earned cash taken by so called spiritual fathers might disagree. Those who have contributed to build education establishment they can’t afforded to send their kids to might disagree. Those who have helped fund luxurious life styles of the Christians leader might disagree. The answer is relative depending which dnd of the scale one is.
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. John 3:16 If you are yet be saved please make this confession. Lord Jesus, I believe you are the Son of God, that you died on the cross to rescue me from sin and death and to restore me to the Father. I confess and repent of my sins. I accept you as my Lord and Saviour. I give myself to you in Jesus name. Amen Welcome into the family of God.
Dwddy freeze is like an antichrist. He his not for the kingdom of God. Always fighting the truth and attacking men of God. The name given to Jesus is Emanuel- God is with us and not Lucifer. Lucifer is owned by the devil.
Daddy freeze your brain don freeze, see what traditional worship have done to our society with young boys sacrificing their parents to idols for money. Get sense quick
You guys are making him feel important his is not daddy freeze His is baby 🍼🍼🍼 freeze When the woman came to Nigeria ask baby 🍼 🍼 freeze is Ebonyi state was created
Its not a lie that traditional gods uses human blood if you know. So why will a man worship a god yhat will request for you blood or ur fellow humans blood when there is a way of life that requires no blood from you.
Where were the ancestors when the white people came, took the people of Africa and their so called gods away to Europe? Even put these so called gods in their museum! Seun Kuti just dey play
Where was the real God as we all know HIM, when Israel was taken away as slave by Egypt and wandering in the wilderness for that long period of time...
@@akintoyedekalu7743 At least, the Israelites got delivered by this same God through the red sea. Today, despite all their travails, they are on top of the world. But look at Africa, it has remain an inferior in perpetuity. Fake ancestors!
What are you people saying? To read na issues, the biggest scam in d world today is us not studying history, to tell me that, someone said this will happen? No make me vex
Unfortunately both of them (Freeze & Kuti) said nothing. So, Freeze would rather take the side of someone who doesn't believe what he believes. Goes to show that Freeze is a false teacher of whatever he claims he's doing. God bless you Apst. Femi Lazarus
that's how slow you people ARE . HAVE you seen their full videos? how can you make a conclusion base on video clips instead of the complete original video?
What's not the truth about what Pastor Femi said? Is it not true that Mary Selessor stopped the killing of twins in Calabar and part of Ebonyi state? Are Cross River and Ebonyi not of Nigeria? If she did it for that part of the country she did it for the whole country. That Yoruba people worship Twins does everywhere else in Nigeria does. How is the statement is irresponsible is what I don't understand, maybe Freeze has a beef with him and does want to say it publicly.
Did Pastor Femi mention calabar? Now u want to justify one place with the whole country. Thats very irresponsible. Pastors now a days re just hypemen in suit
@@liviasparks821you believe it is only Calabar and Ebonyi state just ask yourself when the woman came to Nigeria the state Ebonyi has it been created ? Baby 🍼 freeze can lieeeeeeeeee
Daddy Freeze and Seun rantings are full of sound and fury signifying nothing-chaff. Guys under the influence of sunstances speaking insubstantial nonsense.
Daddy Freeze does not have point to make he just wants to show his face... Did Mary do something about killing of things or not? Weda its in one region or not? So wat kind of childish arguement is he making. He is wasting his intellectual prowess which I acknowledge and respect by the way. Seun is just a lost ignoramus like Paul was... Full empty head. He needs a divine encounter not an argument, till then just nod your head when he talks.
Its obvious u belive to what people tell rather than u do a proper reaserch. We were told in school she stopped the killing of twins in Nigeria not Calabar
@@liviasparks821 Bros are we not told everything... We largely products of books and concepts whose authors we'll never know or have the chance to verify, so keeping things simple... Is there any controversy about weda or not she was involved in such activities, directly or remotely, small region or whole country, as long as the move was made, what are we dragging, he should simply find a clear and fresh point or go and sit down quietly. I repeat that Seun is simply like Dual with plenty information that amounts to nothing on the matter. No need to argue with such person bcos dem go win. They need something deeper to show them the truth. And I am saying this bcos I used to do that kind of argument before I retire from am... If you bring the most ridiculous idea, I can argue with sound logic, so when I see Seun, I say leave. By the way, I don't follow blindly... When Daddy Freeze came with tithe matter, I follow talk set make church find beta answer or let him show us the Truth.
You guys truly know no jack . Select and pick.,if it favours you is that knowledge. Very funny when you see people brags but you see through them ,very very empty guys
Mr.Seun we all knew your father and all he stood for , why do you have to bad mouth his name, your claim lacks authenticity, he only stated for the fact the history of our culture before Christianity came. Where do you belong Oga. You called Bible a what? It’s a shame. This is excess weed talking. I’m sorry for you.
Churches in Nigeria has become a business ventures, we have prove everywhere Secondly, the primary reasons of Christianity is salvation not building schools that's unaffordable to the church members We have many large church auditorium with heavy capacity without repentance Waitin Una dey preach?
@ao4514 The Pastor was chatting nonsense. I am with @SeunKuti and Freeze on this, we give too much power to people who have been brainwashed and become Pastors, they end up defrauding their congregation and also brainwash them. Africans should practice Africans Spirituality!!
Unfortunately, most Africans are mentally enslaved so much that we continue to hate ourselves. You can’t hate the roots of the tree without ending up hating the tree. You can’t hate your origin without ending up hating yourself. You can’t hate the land, your motherland, the place that you come from, and we can’t hate Africa without ending up hating ourselves.
We need to embrace what's authentically ours and not borrowed religions.
We need to embrace our authentic Alkebulan spirituality ❤
Everything the oyinbo brought to the Alkebulan was meant to stop us from connecting to the origin source they way our ancestors did. The moment we embraced their religion was the moment the Alkebulan has never remained the same.
Academics is not Intelligence and Intelligence is not Wisdom. Keep on giving him free Publicity
Christianity has shaped the world not just africa however, the present day Church has brought misrepresentation to the Christian faith when i say christian faith i want you to understand the Christianity as a religion is entirely different from the Christian faith and the real christianity has always been metamorphosis in every generation. When the pure christian faith started in Jerusalem and Judea it started as an underground fellowship which we can refer to as a Cult in our modern language, when the church enters Greece it became a Philosophy, when it gets to Rome it became an Institution, when it enters Europe it became a Culture and when it gets to America it became an Enterprise and when the church returns back to Africa pls note that the Church was in Africa from the onset but could not stand because of the gross darkness in Africa when it now comes back the Church doubles as both Business and Personal Empire. Note that am using the Church and Christianity interchangeably.The methodology of practice is the bane of christianity today and that has sends wrong signal to majority of people and that is why lots of people are ridiculing Christianity. To say whether Christianity has impacted the world is an understatement not just impacting the world it is the Church that is Keeping the world together, if the Church is taken away from the world today then the world seize to exist. When we really understand pure christianity we will understand what the LOVE OF GOD in its real form and essence. May God help us to understand him better in Jesus name.
I love the way you started but the ending was just off... but then I realized you are a Christian who also want to defend the religion.
@@Jade_EnDefending or laying out facts.
How is what you believe in the truth if Christianity is not the truth.
You have to bring evidence and proof and not just talk down on another person's belief
@@segunowolabi4118 Really? Talk down on someone else's belief...is that what you see in my reply?... Also, you are demanding evidence and truth when you already conclude in your mind that whatever you believe is the truth. Well, the truth doesn't work that way, unless, of course you have another definition of the truth 🤷🏽♂️
How can I love this your comment a billion times
@@Jade_En he is just a confused lot. I do not think he/she went through what he typed up there for the second reading
Both Seun & Daddy Freeze are talking too much.
The pastor's primary argument was a philosophical one. About how much the church has contributed to the gross development of the Nigerian society, even with all its internal flaws.
Their rebuttals were instead sentimental and debunking, rather than addressed to the pastor's primary argument.
From a layman's perspective, anchored on what the pastor's argument was, the church has indeed superseded all traditional religions in Nigeria, in its contribution to the gross development of our society.
And in fact, a lot of the menaces that still bedevil our society, which include ritual killings, are still in existence all thanks to our traditional religions.
Fullstop.
Yes the church is the only thing that matters to this country. Even our leaders know this. You know the multitude that attends church programs from all over the world.
@@oluwaseyitanoluwadarapromi1873 very right oil dey hin head
The church does not supersede ALL traditional religion, you just have never cared to studied. Your claim of human sacrifice, how is it different when churches stop people from taking medication or accepting blood transfusion allowing them to die, how is it less human sacrifice? Child abuse by priests. Some pastor that burn their members...
I know you will argue those are the false ones, but guess what, the same can be argued for traditional. Actually, very few believed in sacrifice, in fact insignificant number.
Christianity itself evolved from a barbaric religion, Jephtha sacrificed his daughter, Abraham almost did, Children are stoned to death for disobeying parents, People were killed for fornication, The people commit genecide of communities, killing both parent and children. God disowned King Saul because he did not kill everyone. God killed the child of David for what David did, Moses sacrificed the first born of Egyptians, after God deliberately made Pharoah stubborn.
Even after evolving, the Christianity itself did the crusade, burning of women they called witches, teaching slaves to be submissive and yield to oppression, working with colonisers. Christianity is teaching people to accept bad government and not to revolve against it.
In contrast, most traditional religion are peaceful and would have evolved even better if given the time.
So tell me, how has the church contributed ANYTHING to the development of Nigeria?
@@dolapoogunsanlu6865and how has ifa worship contributed anything to Nigeria.
Churches have employed people and connected people amongst many other things.
If you don't know...churches have played a great role in the health sector of this country.
So again...how has ifa worship contributed anything to this country.
In this matter I stand with Femi Lazarus
Pastor Femi, God will bless you. Anytime a genuine pastor preaches, evil people are angry. I dont understand. Freeze need schooling. A small child in the children church of Deeper life will beat freeze hands down. Because he caused chaos about tithe and the jelly fish christians got confused, he thinks he can confise everyone.
MUGU, your country is being destroyed, no prayer you give now or your celebrity pastor gives go stop what is to come. Next year everything will be double and triple in price . MUGU
Pastor Lazarus is one of the best pastors right now in Nigeria he speaks nothing but the truth ❤
But he was wrong on this unless you are one of his blind followers who can not read between the lines.
@@atandaabiodun I don’t attend his church he didn’t say anything far from the truth and reality
Someone should tell Daddy Freeze that "in Nigeria" is not the same thing as "in all of Nigeria". The former was said, but he inferred the latter.
If a man is passionate about evil he will defend it, so also, if a man is passion about good he will defined it.
Between evil and good, which do you want, choose one.
Good good is associate with God in Christ. Evil and deep evil is associated with evil men and satanist.
Choose whom you will follow this day.
Ultimately, Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one come to God except through Him, Jesus.
But you didn't talk about Quran Islam . Of course you know Christianity is calm .The day you talk about Islam you will be buttered at you home. I'm a Muslim and I believe God exist.
Wow!!!, that's not too cool
When mind is corrupted, what do you say? By their fruit, you shall know them.
Some parts of Yoruba land kills twins. They use to kill twins in my hometown in Ekiti state and some part of Osun state.. you can only know what you are exposed to.
Which part of Osun state?
You are a complete liar.... Which town in Ekiti???
So did mary also stopped dem from killing twins?
Stop lying please. Mumu
Christianity saved Africa....the killing of twins was stopped by a Christian missionary....How many schools do we have in Africa before Christian missionaries came? That European colonized Africa should not make anyone to underrate the impact of Christianity in development of Africa.
YOU ARE M@D. YOUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT THE WHITE MAN BROTHER
Using many developmental indices, are we better now?
- Are we more moral or Godly?
- Are we more intelligent. Do we invent things?
- Are we richer?
- Are we more organized?
Christianity stopped Africa from killing twins, but why were churches B down n destroyed in Canada for the k*filed babies ?
@@seuna.8438 Yes...for everyone who has truly followed the principle of Christian faith.
@@alabaolawole4912 I don't think so. Be it Islam or Christianity, both has been exploiyed as a weapon to keep people at bay. I was speaking with a friend lately and i explained hw the potency of ITAGIRI(Christmas Melon) as an antibiotic is stronger than Erythromycin [Read research conducted on it] and our forefathers have been usin this thing to fight ailment for millenials. This means that they also exercised some form of civilization in their rights.. So many of our things did not grow because these people wanted to paint us as savages. They stereotyped black community as populated by barbarians and Religion was just their tool in this quest. If i put my car's battery outside and place the freshly plucked innard growings of the palm tree (MARIWO) on it, i bet you, nobody would go there. You could try it as practice and take something that this object has been placed on.. These things were real and had a way of homing a rather sane community. The atrocities that have and are being performed under the cover of religion is alarming..
Insofar as i understand, we had our own civilization, unique of it's kind. Our art, Our Medicine, Our craft have all been taken away by these so called missionaries and all we have today is a dysfunctional society full of holy liars and thieves.
I wish Africa could do better.
I so much love......Femi Lazarus ❤❤❤
Ode
LOL. You go eventually tire. 😂
@@JoJo-tm4wdyou are the fool hear because I don’t see anything bad in what he said that made you call him ode.
Make Una Dey use una brain, don’t be daft.
pastor femi is saying the truth ooh 🇳🇬💯❤️
Ode
@@JoJo-tm4wd ode too
Church is supposed to be owned collectively and not by an individual. When we want to build, every body contributes, but after building one person will take over. Others that contributed can go there for personal retreat.
God bless you my brother,let Femi come here in Greece where the whole new testament was written......Femi is one the slave master... what do you expect from him ... education originated from Africa
daddy freeze no get point i beg, seun too no get point, i am with pastor i beg
Ode
These gates of hell shall never prevail against the church. The more they hit the more outdated they become. I stand with Pastor Lazarus. If not for the Church, many people will be worse than bokoharam, inclusing Freeze and Seun. I leave you with this: If you think The Church is a perfect place where you go and see all the saints, you need to think again cos the devil will be very happy with you...
You said if not for the church How many churches are there in China and India why are they doing better than us? I know your answer will be ; its because we have "Bad leaders". But our leaders are all Christians and Muslims. So what will be your next point?😂😂
The problem of every country is people not any religion. Just people!!! The answer is Jesus.
Continue filling yourself with negativity against the Church, what you consume, you become.
Fela had a native doctor he brought from one of the neighbouring countries in his pursuit of ancestral worship and the need to speak to his late mother. It was this marabout that told Fela to travel with excess forex which got Fela jailed. After Fela's sentencing, his boys beat up the native doctor and almost killed him. After Fela got out of prison, he stopped ancestral worship and his quest to speak to his late mother. Seun needs to realise he is not as clever as he thinks, taking on the church is a wrong move.
Are you talking about Professor Hindu?
😂😂😂. What a funny assumption and them say them say statement
Fela was an Ifa priest till he died...look at the way u re talking as if u re so sure..
You just open mouth to talk rub so
@@yemmietitilola2791 there is a documentary where Fela's band members spoke about it. It is not a secret.
Hehehe
Kuti said that he is far more intelligent than Femi Lazarus. Anyways, let their looks judge.
You mean their cosmetics?
He is a spoker
No stable person should pay attention to Seun, who is unstable. At the verge of drug induced psychosis
I love this comment.
Seun should not use any music instruments made by the White man since he felt they have slavery mentality. He should also quite the UA-cam.
You dont talk because you have mouth, you talk because you know what to say and not attacking.
Remind him also, that his uncle and father have Ransom to their name, which i suppose it is English name. This is not about been african or Asian,it is about been you. Man is forever limited without God and here he is, he does not believe in God. His ancestors are more important than God. We know how those "ancestors " ended up anyways. We also know how those who embraced God ended.
this is how fucked up your brain is!!! when did musical instruments became the white men's.
3 months later and you're a mugu
You see that man called daddy freeze he survives on clout! He must do or say something to trend by force, so I’m not surprised when he keeps attacking all pastors, both fake and real pastors.
What baffles me is the group of people that rely on him for validation and guidance. 😂. I can’t imagine some people mirror their lives after these so called celebrities.
Knowing Jesus christ is not by intelligence go and read your Bible and know Jesus Christ before coming on the internet to say nonsense and keep shut
Ode. You are empty
Neither Freeze nor Ṣeun provided a superior argument. Freeze talked about the remote cases of killing of twins in Nigeria but didn't address the issue of ritual killings and our chiefs/kings contributions to slave trade.
Seun on his part just danced around the topic, asking people to go read a book. I expected he would have given a more accurate historical account of how our ancestors were absolutely innocent of the allegations the pastor raised.
The truth is both the Europeans and our ancestors were partners in the slave trade business, however with time the Europeans overran their partners and established colonialism.
Speaking of the Europeans, not every of them bought into the slavery/colonialism trade, some were of a noble mind and sought the true liberation of all mankind inclusive of Africans.
This is not to say that the church at some point did not participate and benefit from slavery/colonialism.
My point is not every European/organ of the church were complicit.
That we trade ourselves and fought war was the way of the world as at that time. The European came to exploit and it was acceptable as at that time. That was the way of the world as at then. We really need to know who we are.
The first mission of Oyibo when they arrived Africa was to make you hate your ancestors/forefathers. Once you don't like them, you won't like yourself.
Trust me, there was nothing our forefathers practised then that Oyibo people didn't do worse. Do you want to compare the numbers kpai through rituals and the 10m King Leopard kpai. Do you know how many people crusaders kpai? Do you know Israel used to practise human sacrifice? Have you heard of gladiators who fight themselves to death and people will be watching and laughing, using human lives for sport.
Seun Baba how I fit get that book please???❤
Why not go to his UA-cam channel he can't read or see your comment here
Me too i cant wait to read that book knowlege is power
Freeze should not be taken seriously.
Bcos his head isn't empty
The man is speaking the truth.
Ode
Take Tithe ,offering,and first fruit seed from church,how many of these pastors will still be pastors
Dey play. So you think say pastors no dey do businesses abi😅
A lot. A lot of Pastors don't survive on their church's money.
Keep quiet , is it not the members money they use in building whatever business deir into ? Or u tink say dey get money open business without contributions of his church
@@franklinchibuike905 believe whatever you choose to believe, but know that Pastors can survive very well without a dime from their churches, especially the genuine ones who are not into it to take financial advantage of their flock.
Who cares about what these other two guys are saying. The pastor is right.
Ode.. you don't read or research
Some of us do not hate the church but passionately disagree with the handlers of the church in Nigeria
Then make yourself available... Mtcheeeeew
@@emmywealthfilms1524 making yourself available for the lord's work does not require publicity and the message of Jesus Christ is all about salvation and not a battle between the church and others.
If the Gospel is not heard how will people be saved keep shut
@@DAI-yw3vk for the fact that you said it doesn't require publicity shows you are just a charlatan. You really do not know.
Secondly the church is not in battle with anyone. Someone preached a msg and unbelievers gathered to analyze wat they do not know. Who is battling who?
You can't fight the church nor the men. Just wasting ur data
Thank you.. you de mind this empty heads
@Seun You and I are African men not bearing oyibo name but using oyibo internet. Abeg
There was kịllị̀ng of twins somewhere in Nigeria and the women happened to have lived and worked in that area and part of her legacy was to see such cultural practices stopped. The pastor never said Mary Slessor came to stop something that was not existing nor did he suggest it was happening everywhere. Nigeria has different cultural practices, some may have been considered normal or good by the practioners then but maybe not today again.
Is Calaba Nigeria? Have you done research to be certain that she actually stopped it abi you are suffering from the wrong curriculum that was fed you with?
Maybe Calaba is in Egypt while Calabar is in Nigeria. Tell what your research findings then and review the video again
@@atandaabiodun
the funny thing is that ,all the must wicked people are already born again if not so things will have been way too worse then this ...all this guys talking online are not even wicked ...if not for the church things would have gone bad in africa and even the whole world at large ....i just watch all this guys fighting the church and laugh ,they don`t know the impact of the church ...
Seun kuti said he is more intelligent than pastor Lazarus, if he is intelligent, why was he on bare body talking to the whole world?
So bare body means not being intelligent. We're so fucked in Nigeria 🤣🤣
So to put use your barebody is a crime, your own body? This is the daft mindset the intellectuals speak against
I don't think pastor Femi really understand while Christians takes some of the names such as Lazarus and co, you don't become Lazarus because you belong to a particular worship center or because you attend churches every Sundays and Wednesdays, someone that even mentioned Christmas as a way of given back to the people
Christmas of that matter
Christmas that's not even mentioned in the Bible
Meanwhile Ṣeun Kuti, the Bible is not a stupid book,
To people like me the Bible is an excellent reality
That words became flesh in me.
Bro its very obvious why seun kuti called it a ????? Book. Christians attack other religious groups and make dem a villain.
Especially a man called King James that has version of the Bible, committed on of the greatest atrocities.
Seun I like u so much, I like ur beliefs but please don't call the Bible a stupid book again. The Bible is not a stupid book please don't say that again. The Bible is the greatest book but they intentionally interpreted it wrongly to us just to satisfy their selfish interest.
There a lot of truths in the Bible.
Igbo and the books he is reading is worrying him.No respect at all. The igbo he learnt to spoke from his father that marries 27 wives and walk with pants with his sick moving left to right were their are young girls around is worrying him. What do you expect from the son of a prostitute.
Let me help him male it loud so the ppl at the back can hear me.. Jesus is stupid.. God of thr bible is a monster and bible is garbage
Christianity major aim is to help the society ,pastor Lazarus isn’t wrong just that a lot of pastors have turned everything upside down
Ode
@@JoJo-tm4wd you be fool
Daddy Freeze who couldn't succeed in his Nollywood career and Seun Kuti who keeps struggling with his music career are contesting with a whose voice is endorsed by heaven. Seun Kuti should be ashamed of himself I believe his father will be grossly disappointed in him.
You should rather be disappointed at your useless comment!!
Seun is not Femi
Forget success of both men.. think for yourself and stop believing the mad pastor lying to you for his business to continue
That baby 🍼🍼🍼 freeze at his age ask him when marry slessor came to Nigeria was any state like EBONYI STATE
SHE CAME 1876 EBONYI WAS FORM 1996 THAT MAN IS TO BABYISH 🍼🍼
@@cryptoProcharts
Corrected. Tanks
Daddy freeze, freeze oh. He didn't insist it happened in Yoruba land. He only said in Nigeria. Is Calabar not Nigeria? Abeg make una stop this confusion Joo.
In Africa we no bury kings with people? Why are you guys silent on that? All the kings that claimed next to divinity, what is the reality today? Does any human being have a different biology? Abeg oh.
Daddy Freeze, how far, you no they analysis Pastor David Ibiyeomie's messages again. 😂😂😂..
That man that has lost his mind since
You dey mind baby 🍼 freeze
Ask him if Ebonyi state has been created when the woman came to Nigeria
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
This is a very sumlkd question to answer on a individual basis. Answers will depend on experiences. In it’s purest & holiest form, if had been good, Bug does that form exist in abundance? Girls who lost their virginity to their pastors in prayer rooms might disagree. Young men who have had their hard earned cash taken by so called spiritual fathers might disagree. Those who have contributed to build education establishment they can’t afforded to send their kids to might disagree. Those who have helped fund luxurious life styles of the Christians leader might disagree. The answer is relative depending which dnd of the scale one is.
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. John 3:16 If you are yet be saved please make this confession. Lord Jesus, I believe you are the Son of God, that you died on the cross to rescue me from sin and death and to restore me to the Father. I confess and repent of my sins. I accept you as my Lord and Saviour. I give myself to you in Jesus name. Amen Welcome into the family of God.
School them, we love to shout and follow things we dont know in nigeria
Unfortunately, Seun Kuti didn’t make any point that I can hold. I really wanted to hear his thoughts but he shared nothing.
Both freeze and seun said nothing. Just a pity
Boy not daddy freezer don't used to have sense
Dwddy freeze is like an antichrist. He his not for the kingdom of God. Always fighting the truth and attacking men of God.
The name given to Jesus is Emanuel- God is with us
and not Lucifer. Lucifer is owned by the devil.
Pastor is very very right. If you don't believe it then go and sleep
Daddy freeze your brain don freeze, see what traditional worship have done to our society with young boys sacrificing their parents to idols for money. Get sense quick
You guys are making him feel important his is not daddy freeze
His is baby 🍼🍼🍼 freeze
When the woman came to Nigeria ask baby 🍼 🍼 freeze is Ebonyi state was created
Its not a lie that traditional gods uses human blood if you know. So why will a man worship a god yhat will request for you blood or ur fellow humans blood when there is a way of life that requires no blood from you.
These guys are not in their rightful mind
Where were the ancestors when the white people came, took the people of Africa and their so called gods away to Europe? Even put these so called gods in their museum! Seun Kuti just dey play
Where was the real God as we all know HIM, when Israel was taken away as slave by Egypt and wandering in the wilderness for that long period of time...
@@akintoyedekalu7743 At least, the Israelites got delivered by this same God through the red sea. Today, despite all their travails, they are on top of the world. But look at Africa, it has remain an inferior in perpetuity. Fake ancestors!
@@akintoyedekalu7743you mean the god of the bible that literally told them they will be enslaved?
What are you people saying? To read na issues, the biggest scam in d world today is us not studying history, to tell me that, someone said this will happen? No make me vex
😂😂 Use am do display for museum.
What is your point Freeze????
He doesn't even know you sef so what's the fuss about
Unfortunately both of them (Freeze & Kuti) said nothing. So, Freeze would rather take the side of someone who doesn't believe what he believes. Goes to show that Freeze is a false teacher of whatever he claims he's doing. God bless you Apst. Femi Lazarus
You are a fool and one of the reasons Nigeria 🇳🇬 won’t move forward
that's how slow you people ARE . HAVE you seen their full videos? how can you make a conclusion base on video clips instead of the complete original video?
Pastor Femi summarised his points quickly and covered much. Freeze and Kuti took their time. You need to listen to the full videos
What's not the truth about what Pastor Femi said? Is it not true that Mary Selessor stopped the killing of twins in Calabar and part of Ebonyi state? Are Cross River and Ebonyi not of Nigeria? If she did it for that part of the country she did it for the whole country. That Yoruba people worship Twins does everywhere else in Nigeria does. How is the statement is irresponsible is what I don't understand, maybe Freeze has a beef with him and does want to say it publicly.
Did Pastor Femi mention calabar? Now u want to justify one place with the whole country. Thats very irresponsible.
Pastors now a days re just hypemen in suit
That man is
baby 🍼 freeze
Don't mind him
@@liviasparks821you believe it is only Calabar and Ebonyi state just ask yourself when the woman came to Nigeria the state Ebonyi has it been created ?
Baby 🍼 freeze can lieeeeeeeeee
@@UnlimitedGrace-ot6uj the people existed, na name dem change to Ebonyi....😂
Nice write up man
Freeze is both biased and ignorant when it comes to Bible. He's eloquent and clever about controlling his narratives.
He claims to be a scholar. 😂
Namsake tell them
Daddy Freeze and Seun rantings are full of sound and fury signifying nothing-chaff. Guys under the influence of sunstances speaking insubstantial nonsense.
Daddy Freeze does not have point to make he just wants to show his face... Did Mary do something about killing of things or not? Weda its in one region or not? So wat kind of childish arguement is he making. He is wasting his intellectual prowess which I acknowledge and respect by the way.
Seun is just a lost ignoramus like Paul was... Full empty head. He needs a divine encounter not an argument, till then just nod your head when he talks.
Its obvious u belive to what people tell rather than u do a proper reaserch.
We were told in school she stopped the killing of twins in Nigeria not Calabar
@@liviasparks821
Bros are we not told everything... We largely products of books and concepts whose authors we'll never know or have the chance to verify, so keeping things simple... Is there any controversy about weda or not she was involved in such activities, directly or remotely, small region or whole country, as long as the move was made, what are we dragging, he should simply find a clear and fresh point or go and sit down quietly.
I repeat that Seun is simply like Dual with plenty information that amounts to nothing on the matter. No need to argue with such person bcos dem go win. They need something deeper to show them the truth. And I am saying this bcos I used to do that kind of argument before I retire from am... If you bring the most ridiculous idea, I can argue with sound logic, so when I see Seun, I say leave.
By the way, I don't follow blindly... When Daddy Freeze came with tithe matter, I follow talk set make church find beta answer or let him show us the Truth.
You guys truly know no jack . Select and pick.,if it favours you is that knowledge.
Very funny when you see people brags but you see through them ,very very empty guys
sorry boss i am not happy with seun
Seun
Mr.Seun we all knew your father and all he stood for , why do you have to bad mouth his name, your claim lacks authenticity, he only stated for the fact the history of our culture before Christianity came.
Where do you belong Oga.
You called Bible a what?
It’s a shame.
This is excess weed talking. I’m sorry for you.
Lazarus need education. The sound effects and noise is just to finger the gullible folks brain.
What do you know?
You need the education more. Ode oshi.
Churches in Nigeria has become a business ventures, we have prove everywhere
Secondly, the primary reasons of Christianity is salvation not building schools that's unaffordable to the church members
We have many large church auditorium with heavy capacity without repentance
Waitin Una dey preach?
Seun and freeze are talking nonsense
You are are talking nonsense!!!
Why is he talking nonsense?
@ao4514 The Pastor was chatting nonsense. I am with @SeunKuti and Freeze on this, we give too much power to people who have been brainwashed and become Pastors, they end up defrauding their congregation and also brainwash them. Africans should practice Africans Spirituality!!
Ode
@@ao4514because nigerians are gullible, especially when it comes to christianity
Seun kuti is overrating himself
Jesus god 419 👽🔥🔥🔥
No wahala
Seun Kuti actually said nothing.
Ode
Both freeze and seun said nothing. Just a pity