I'm not trying to excuse blatant racism, but there is a lot context missing from the situation. For the past few years, Japanese artists have been getting harassed for making black and dark skin characters slightly lighter in art. I think the most infamous case was when an artist drew a dark skinned splatoon character slightly lighter and was getting death threats over it even after apologizing. So when they see an english va flaunting a black edit and see all these people praising it, they see it as hypocritical. At its core, the situation really is more about double standards than actual racism.
That is true, but in my opinion people should recognize that they are not the same people, I don't know why people that have not made such disgusting threats have to be affected by this. They are most likely not the same people. And we do not know what they opinion is on the matter, so why accuse someone of hypocrisy when they are not the same people? Generalizations are very common, but I think they unfairly affect people that have nothing to do with what others have gone through, we should treat each case individually. This is just fiction, and people shouldn't be getting mad at this in the first place. Making a white character black, or a black character white, or making any other character into another race as fanart shouldn't make people mad, its just fiction. When they say they ''made it better'' then thats just disrespectful but still people shouldn't be so quick to escalate to threats over such things. You can't just apply hypocrisy as a generalization. Alot of people that are liking this edit are not the same people that made such threats when the vice versa happened.
the people who are harassing the Japanese artists aren't even black tho, why are we getting hate when its these "allies" of the black community causing trouble, thats the part that hurts the most
@@cosmicobsidian672 just imagining people that aren't black defending the community by canceling artists is just a whole new mental path to go through that I'd honestly rather them being black then people white-knighting by canceling people when none of this is needed
Honestly it’s the double standards of the situation that started all of this. Plus the voice actor tweets from Years ago coming out that no one should play black characters if they aren’t black, while voicing English dubbed Asian characters. As soon as someone makes a character “lighter than they’re supposed to be” the black community is up in arms, but if someone from another culture doesn’t like said black persons take they have to basically just stfu. Which isn’t fair. The black community sets a lot of double standards for themselves and others. I hate that fandoms have gotten to this point. A lot of disgusting discourse was made from all sides of the field. We should all be able to enjoy our favs no matter what and not blow things up or add fuel to the fire. American culture also forgets Japan is an island basically. They make this art to represent their homeland because it’s small. Just like the black want to see themselves represented. Regardless. All this shit is childish af. Be an adult. (which most who have battled in this argument aren’t adults or lack emotional control to not react to trolls). All of this is brain rot social media banter. The real manga and anime lovers just kicking it with their homies from various groups and cultures anyway. That’s why we loved anime from the start.
Let’s cut the bullshit, the black community as a whole prolly makes up 3 percent of all anime viewers so let’s stop acting like where an overwhelming majority and this didn’t start cause of no vas tweets, a fan artist made 2 characters he liked black and was bombarded with rascits commments, like not make it seem like the vc is the cause and let’s ask ourselves why did this dude get so much hate for his image
@ but drawing characters in a specific way is??? So let me get this straight, other races can copy anything we create, but when we include ourselves in sh&t that’s too far? The f&ck happened to “culture is for everyone!” “Stop gatekeeping!!” 🤣🤣🤣
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I wouldnt call this creative. Now before i get lynched what I mean is the art used here isnt made originalbl by a fa just color swapped using the mamgakens work
My brother you should look in to it more this isn't out of nowhere the Japanese and some anime fans are tired of the harassment that start about 2019 towards the Japanese and Asian people they don't have to make black characters im black i don't need representation in Asian media japan is 98% Japanese people and their media is for them first yes it nice when it gets worldwide but is for them first
I remember a lot of japanese people including a lot of artists getting really pissed off with the "i fixed your art." Im not at all surprised that they're still reacting this way.
This really does seem to be a western issue. I don’t know if western artists are just not taught respect or something but yeah that kind of shit is extremely disrespectful and I bet they would react the same way if other artists “fixed” their art.
I really hope that the ppl who've been reading DDD from the start are able to weed out the bad actors before that second season because it's holds some of my absolute favorite parts of that series and I want to be able to talk about it without #them invading the conversation
Just to add , there was a point on twitter where people were changing the colours of some people’s art and then saying they fixed it for them so that’s probs about to do with it but once again will never justify it
The English VA for Okarun is pretty toxic himself The guy literally said something about how non-blacks should not voice black characters and just people with different races should not voice characters who are not their respective race in general, yet he is breaking his own rule by voicing Japanese Characters.
How is that toxic? why would you get non-black people to voice non-black characters? I couldn't even tell he was black until I looked up Okarun's voice actor.
Not sure how often this is mentioned, but I've seen people make the argument of, "why dont they make their own black characters instead making black edits". On one hand, I understand the sentiment. But at the same time, that logic can apply to literally every piece of fan content to ever exist. "Why dont you create your own character instead of making art of an already existing character", "why dont you make your manga instead of making a fan manga", things like that. I find it very dumb.
I mean, that's not really the same thing. The reason a lot of anime fans make black edits of their favorite characters is because they want to feel represented, which you can talk about the bad faith and stuff that comes out of that: like people who got pissed over hearing Mirko's dub voice from MHA and complaining about her voice actress not being black, even though 1.) Mirko isn't black, she's a Japanese woman from Hiroshima and just aggressively sunkissed, and 2.) her voice actress actually is black in the English dub, she just doesn't "sound" black. But when people make the argument you're making, I usually don't see it applied to fan works, I see it applied to stuff like Disney remakes or Marvel comic adaptations that change the race of characters. That's usually to try to make a cast more diverse and make black viewers or viewers of other backgrounds feel represented, but it also ends up feeling like opportunities to make new black, Latino, Asian, et cetera, et cetera characters get crowded out by the same push to make everything be based off an existing IP. Usually that argument isn't applied to fandom, it's to official properties that sort of feel like they're trying to have it both ways, trying to make "easy" representation without creating a character from the ground up. When it comes to fan works, I personally think it's kind of disrespectful to edit another person's art - especially the art of a professional - and then say you "fixed" it. That's kind of just extremely arrogant and demonstrates a lot of bad faith on the part of the "fan" doing the "fixing" where they think "if this character doesn't look like me, they aren't valuable to me." Plus it's just like... they didn't do anything but recolor or draw over art another person made, and act like they did something important.
@Yggdraseed Yeah, the "why don't make your own characters" is something that isn't present that much when it comes to fan works. It's just that, for this controversy that's going on now, people are using this argument against the fan art that was made. I definitely understand that a lot of people make black edits to feel represented in some way. But most of the time from what I've seen, they're never made out of spite for the original art. If someone does say they "fixed" something by making a black or whatever edit, then we can definitely hold them accountable because they're projecting their views onto someone else's work. However, the fan that drew the Momo and Okarun black edit never said they "fixed it". All they really said was that they ended up doing them, which indicates to me that it wasn't drawn out of spite or anything. I'm not sure if this is a case where people took her words the wrong way or what. And I'm not gonna go into the tracing thing; that's its own topic. At the end of the day, this whole situtation is just so blown out of proportion for no good reason.
@@MoltenWater1 Yeah, I have no issue with fans who just describe it as a reimagining. There's nothing wrong with reimagining characters to be different from how they are in the story they're from. I do it a lot, imagining what other things about them would be different if you change one detail and go from there. And honestly, I empathize with anyone who loves a medium and wants to see more characters who they can feel more of a connection with. I'm an anime fan and I'm trans, and while I don't think I'm owed it, I'd like to see more anime with trans characters that can open up and talk about it. However, I also don't need a character to be trans to make a connection with them. I think people sometimes get so caught up in this sort of thing that they forget all of this is an exercise in empathy. It's more fun when you can, y'know, form a connection with different characters; different from each other, and different from you, and see the little things that are shared in common. There needs to be more good representation for everything that makes all of us unique, even down to stuff past race or gender, like all the little ways people see the world differently. Especially in a medium like anime that can get so homogenized, like with the isekai boom. However, I don't think the best way to do that is to attack any art, whether it's made by a pro or made by a fan. I think the best way is to make new art, lovingly, and share it with people.
@MoltenWater1 they're probably referring to ocs, original characters based in an existing universe. Plus, another issue with edits is that it's so close to the original that it's considered lazy at best and plagerismnat worst. Especially in this case, since the "artist" traced over a screenshot from the anime
I see these kind of edits on Pinterest 24/7 so this really doesn’t bother me at all. Also I guess if I have to add my own perspective I do think these kind of edits are interesting in an experimental sort of way. Some of them are basic but other ones have a lot of effort put into them and are very unique.
@righteous225 it's not really the main problem, it's the problem that said traced art can be sold for money while the vice versa of slightly lightening the skin can lead you to be canceled and have death threats in your way, I understand the Japanese fanbase but they have taken an extreme with some racist comments, but we have to understand neither sides or monoliths for their community, some people do this for self-expression and others come from a place of understanding but wish for the vise versa not to lead to artists being canceled,as a black person, I think it's fine, but those artists should really get to making their own black characters as it's truly a fun and amazing way of self-expression when the characters you draw are from your ideas and view, maybe they can make webcomics
@jonathan9044 this type of drama in the world doesn't surprise me people say to stop spreading hatred yet continue to do so it's saddening to see people can't even make art nowadays without receiving death threats or hateful comments
Wasn't there a Brazilian miku I know there was backlash but I don't think it was as big as this. Edit: Like you said before it's fine to culture appropriate black culture but when you make an edit of a fictional character it's bad i've seen mexican edits, brazil, etc of fictional characters but there's never backlash for them.
the thing that annoys me the most about this situations is the people trying to be like "it started because the japanese were harrassed first" when for years like YEARS japan has taken black culture/coded things and added it into their own media. This doesn't only apply to black culture, Japan is notorious from borrowing from other cultures. And then those same people will try to gas light you and say it's not from black culture or whatever other culture it comes from. I've seen people say that the Carlton dance in the intro isn't a reference to fresh prince..and it's clear to see that those people who make those claims aren't even EDUCATED on the cultures they're speaking about and typically have an confirmation baisis mindset.. TDLR - Japan borrows from every culture, so it's the pot calling the kettle black.
FR, the thing that gets me the most is that they keep speaking for Japanese people when in actuality the ones who are harassing are probably not, it’s just weirdo weebs The thing is this isn’t new, Bl@ck people constantly get harassed for including themselves in sh&t, so many Bl@ck cosplayers have been attacked for dressing as an anime character, meanwhile the character isn’t Whyte either and those Whyte cosplays are let off Scott free! The kicker is to prove that the “Bl@ck community is hypocritical” they’ll pick and choose a few outliers ignoring the fact that 1: they are OUTLIERS, usually when you look into these situations, it’s Whyte idiots picking on Black creators 2: Ain’t nobody in the community justifying that sh&t, but when the culprit is Whyte there’s always an excuse, never any responsibility taken whatsoever (My bad for the tanget, I just had to get some things off my chest)
Oh btw there’s this chain of anime UA-camr who are like saying“based Japanese” and encouraging the behaviour and the comments in those videos are literally saying that they had it coming normalizing the Hard-R. Like it’s crazy, more and more these folks are blatantly racists, no filter just raw.
Bro since about 2019 they have been harassing Japanese people over their and changing it and putting "#fixed there not Japanese anymore " and tell how to write theirs harassing mangaka cause they dont like what they are doin with their own art and story among other things its not out of nowhere its the same with Asian made games to look at stellar blade they try to say they don't know what a women looks like and shit because the characters were hot and had some jiggle physics
I always found the loli thing to be kind of annoying at this point. To me, these are just fictional characters and yeah you can find them weird (and I don’t really care about them myself) but the fact that some people put it on the level of To Catch a Predator is a little bit much. I think people are so obsessed with pinning everyone and anyone as a predator that they’ll use any excuse they can. Every time there’s some discourse regarding loli stuff on social media I roll my eyes and carry on to the next thing.
Yeah its racist but still we are all missing the reason why this all began the og post cannot be cited as original content they just traced over that scene and is trying to monetise that work while other Japanese artists were harassed and had to take their accounts down due to death threats and stuff for almost a really long time ive seen posts made 2-3 years ago having the same issue Its just double standards thats bringing this pointless and rather stupid discussion like just shut up and enjoy art what if its black okarun like he looks fire tho can we just move on but yeah we cant afford nice things in this economy
@@jonathan9044 all the time if you really pay attention to the way the characters talk with each other they really like to say "wicked" which was transformed into black street slang in the 80's
@@cosmicobsidian672Is that on the English dub? Either way, wicked is still a word itself, and considering that they are usually dealing with spirits and crazy aliens, it makes a lot of sense to call some of them wicked Back to the translation bit, do remember that translation isn't just a 1 to 1 translation of the content, adaptations are made, maybe they change a saying to something of the same meaning but that makes way more sense to a different culture, things like that I find it HARD that the mangaka or the production of the anime know a slang from US from the 80s
@@cosmicobsidian672 was still widely used by Western people, and remember, not every Japanese word and slag is translated correctly, Okarun never calls girls babe, on the contrary, dandadan is heavy on humour based on japanese culture, it's littered everywhere, you'd have to project a lot because from all the ways they act, they just act like kids, all of their slang is regular kid slang , japanese cultured humor, or whatever jiji and vamola are doing, and there's no point in bringing up the OP since for one those are not the authors vision, and it's certainly not exclusively seen in black culture, that's like saying cosplaying is cultural appropriation, that's an incredible reach
I'm not trying to excuse blatant racism, but there is a lot context missing from the situation. For the past few years, Japanese artists have been getting harassed for making black and dark skin characters slightly lighter in art. I think the most infamous case was when an artist drew a dark skinned splatoon character slightly lighter and was getting death threats over it even after apologizing. So when they see an english va flaunting a black edit and see all these people praising it, they see it as hypocritical. At its core, the situation really is more about double standards than actual racism.
That is true, but in my opinion people should recognize that they are not the same people, I don't know why people that have not made such disgusting threats have to be affected by this. They are most likely not the same people. And we do not know what they opinion is on the matter, so why accuse someone of hypocrisy when they are not the same people? Generalizations are very common, but I think they unfairly affect people that have nothing to do with what others have gone through, we should treat each case individually.
This is just fiction, and people shouldn't be getting mad at this in the first place. Making a white character black, or a black character white, or making any other character into another race as fanart shouldn't make people mad, its just fiction. When they say they ''made it better'' then thats just disrespectful but still people shouldn't be so quick to escalate to threats over such things.
You can't just apply hypocrisy as a generalization. Alot of people that are liking this edit are not the same people that made such threats when the vice versa happened.
the people who are harassing the Japanese artists aren't even black tho, why are we getting hate when its these "allies" of the black community causing trouble, thats the part that hurts the most
@@cosmicobsidian672 well don’t forget the chaos that Johnny samoli has brought to japan as of recent and the copy cats
@@isaacegbelana6056 very true, i hate that guy so much for making us look like fools on a international level, thank god he got jumped in korea
@@cosmicobsidian672 just imagining people that aren't black defending the community by canceling artists is just a whole new mental path to go through that I'd honestly rather them being black then people white-knighting by canceling people when none of this is needed
Honestly it’s the double standards of the situation that started all of this. Plus the voice actor tweets from
Years ago coming out that no one should play black characters if they aren’t black, while voicing English dubbed Asian characters. As soon as someone makes a character “lighter than they’re supposed to be” the black community is up in arms, but if someone from another culture doesn’t like said black persons take they have to basically just stfu. Which isn’t fair.
The black community sets a lot of double standards for themselves and others. I hate that fandoms have gotten to this point. A lot of disgusting discourse was made from all sides of the field. We should all be able to enjoy our favs no matter what and not blow things up or add fuel to the fire.
American culture also forgets Japan is an island basically. They make this art to represent their homeland because it’s small. Just like the black want to see themselves represented.
Regardless. All this shit is childish af. Be an adult. (which most who have battled in this argument aren’t adults or lack emotional control to not react to trolls).
All of this is brain rot social media banter. The real manga and anime lovers just kicking it with their homies from various groups and cultures anyway. That’s why we loved anime from the start.
Let’s cut the bullshit, the black community as a whole prolly makes up 3 percent of all anime viewers so let’s stop acting like where an overwhelming majority and this didn’t start cause of no vas tweets, a fan artist made 2 characters he liked black and was bombarded with rascits commments, like not make it seem like the vc is the cause and let’s ask ourselves why did this dude get so much hate for his image
Talking about some “stop appropriating Japanese culture” as if Momo wasn’t literally doing the Rihanna dance in the opening 😭🙏🏿
Hypocrites smh 🤦🏿♂️
that's like saying cosplaying is appropriating japanese culture
A dance move isn’t appropriating culture
@ but drawing characters in a specific way is???
So let me get this straight, other races can copy anything we create, but when we include ourselves in sh&t that’s too far?
The f&ck happened to “culture is for everyone!”
“Stop gatekeeping!!” 🤣🤣🤣
@@luispalao7418 then what’s the fuse with a drawing ?
Bro that's so crazy like we can't all just enjoy an anime together as a community,or let people be creative😞
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I wouldnt call this creative. Now before i get lynched what I mean is the art used here isnt made originalbl by a fa just color swapped using the mamgakens work
My brother you should look in to it more this isn't out of nowhere the Japanese and some anime fans are tired of the harassment that start about 2019 towards the Japanese and Asian people they don't have to make black characters im black i don't need representation in Asian media japan is 98% Japanese people and their media is for them first yes it nice when it gets worldwide but is for them first
I remember a lot of japanese people including a lot of artists getting really pissed off with the "i fixed your art." Im not at all surprised that they're still reacting this way.
This really does seem to be a western issue. I don’t know if western artists are just not taught respect or something but yeah that kind of shit is extremely disrespectful and I bet they would react the same way if other artists “fixed” their art.
I really hope that the ppl who've been reading DDD from the start are able to weed out the bad actors before that second season because it's holds some of my absolute favorite parts of that series and I want to be able to talk about it without #them invading the conversation
Looking like it might be too late. They might just be the new "K-On!" fans reputation.
Just to add , there was a point on twitter where people were changing the colours of some people’s art and then saying they fixed it for them so that’s probs about to do with it but once again will never justify it
The English VA for Okarun is pretty toxic himself
The guy literally said something about how non-blacks should not voice black characters and just people with different races should not voice characters who are not their respective race in general, yet he is breaking his own rule by voicing Japanese Characters.
He is a hypocrite for that but pointing out the chinks in his armor doesn’t execute the blatant racist comments from a drawing
How is that toxic? why would you get non-black people to voice non-black characters? I couldn't even tell he was black until I looked up Okarun's voice actor.
Not sure how often this is mentioned, but I've seen people make the argument of, "why dont they make their own black characters instead making black edits". On one hand, I understand the sentiment. But at the same time, that logic can apply to literally every piece of fan content to ever exist. "Why dont you create your own character instead of making art of an already existing character", "why dont you make your manga instead of making a fan manga", things like that. I find it very dumb.
I mean, that's not really the same thing. The reason a lot of anime fans make black edits of their favorite characters is because they want to feel represented, which you can talk about the bad faith and stuff that comes out of that: like people who got pissed over hearing Mirko's dub voice from MHA and complaining about her voice actress not being black, even though 1.) Mirko isn't black, she's a Japanese woman from Hiroshima and just aggressively sunkissed, and 2.) her voice actress actually is black in the English dub, she just doesn't "sound" black.
But when people make the argument you're making, I usually don't see it applied to fan works, I see it applied to stuff like Disney remakes or Marvel comic adaptations that change the race of characters. That's usually to try to make a cast more diverse and make black viewers or viewers of other backgrounds feel represented, but it also ends up feeling like opportunities to make new black, Latino, Asian, et cetera, et cetera characters get crowded out by the same push to make everything be based off an existing IP. Usually that argument isn't applied to fandom, it's to official properties that sort of feel like they're trying to have it both ways, trying to make "easy" representation without creating a character from the ground up.
When it comes to fan works, I personally think it's kind of disrespectful to edit another person's art - especially the art of a professional - and then say you "fixed" it. That's kind of just extremely arrogant and demonstrates a lot of bad faith on the part of the "fan" doing the "fixing" where they think "if this character doesn't look like me, they aren't valuable to me." Plus it's just like... they didn't do anything but recolor or draw over art another person made, and act like they did something important.
@Yggdraseed Yeah, the "why don't make your own characters" is something that isn't present that much when it comes to fan works. It's just that, for this controversy that's going on now, people are using this argument against the fan art that was made.
I definitely understand that a lot of people make black edits to feel represented in some way. But most of the time from what I've seen, they're never made out of spite for the original art. If someone does say they "fixed" something by making a black or whatever edit, then we can definitely hold them accountable because they're projecting their views onto someone else's work. However, the fan that drew the Momo and Okarun black edit never said they "fixed it". All they really said was that they ended up doing them, which indicates to me that it wasn't drawn out of spite or anything. I'm not sure if this is a case where people took her words the wrong way or what. And I'm not gonna go into the tracing thing; that's its own topic. At the end of the day, this whole situtation is just so blown out of proportion for no good reason.
@@MoltenWater1 Yeah, I have no issue with fans who just describe it as a reimagining. There's nothing wrong with reimagining characters to be different from how they are in the story they're from. I do it a lot, imagining what other things about them would be different if you change one detail and go from there.
And honestly, I empathize with anyone who loves a medium and wants to see more characters who they can feel more of a connection with. I'm an anime fan and I'm trans, and while I don't think I'm owed it, I'd like to see more anime with trans characters that can open up and talk about it. However, I also don't need a character to be trans to make a connection with them.
I think people sometimes get so caught up in this sort of thing that they forget all of this is an exercise in empathy. It's more fun when you can, y'know, form a connection with different characters; different from each other, and different from you, and see the little things that are shared in common.
There needs to be more good representation for everything that makes all of us unique, even down to stuff past race or gender, like all the little ways people see the world differently. Especially in a medium like anime that can get so homogenized, like with the isekai boom. However, I don't think the best way to do that is to attack any art, whether it's made by a pro or made by a fan. I think the best way is to make new art, lovingly, and share it with people.
@MoltenWater1 they're probably referring to ocs, original characters based in an existing universe. Plus, another issue with edits is that it's so close to the original that it's considered lazy at best and plagerismnat worst. Especially in this case, since the "artist" traced over a screenshot from the anime
I see these kind of edits on Pinterest 24/7 so this really doesn’t bother me at all. Also I guess if I have to add my own perspective I do think these kind of edits are interesting in an experimental sort of way. Some of them are basic but other ones have a lot of effort put into them and are very unique.
5:19 true, there’s no way around it yet you still have people trying to deny it, "they want our rhythm but not our blues,".
Yet no one talks about the traced art sold for money,,,,just petty on both sides
Twitter artists would rather argue about each other's art than get together and fight generative AI, so I stopped taking them seriously.
@@Bft149 expecting anything good from twitter will lead to dissapointment
Acting like anybody gives a damn about traced art genuinely cry about it if that's your biggest concern
@righteous225 it's not really the main problem, it's the problem that said traced art can be sold for money while the vice versa of slightly lightening the skin can lead you to be canceled and have death threats in your way, I understand the Japanese fanbase but they have taken an extreme with some racist comments, but we have to understand neither sides or monoliths for their community, some people do this for self-expression and others come from a place of understanding but wish for the vise versa not to lead to artists being canceled,as a black person, I think it's fine, but those artists should really get to making their own black characters as it's truly a fun and amazing way of self-expression when the characters you draw are from your ideas and view, maybe they can make webcomics
@jonathan9044 this type of drama in the world doesn't surprise me people say to stop spreading hatred yet continue to do so it's saddening to see people can't even make art nowadays without receiving death threats or hateful comments
So if there was a fanart of boondocks characters as light skinned/white characters there wouldnt be any trouble? 🤷🏽♂️
You know what else is massive
Yo mom
Imma say this the manga community is not apart of the klankaklan
KlanKaKlan XD
Wasn't there a Brazilian miku I know there was backlash but I don't think it was as big as this.
Edit: Like you said before it's fine to culture appropriate black culture but when you make an edit of a fictional character it's bad i've seen mexican edits, brazil, etc of fictional characters but there's never backlash for them.
Fan art is fan art, I don’t see how that should be a problem😂
the thing that annoys me the most about this situations is the people trying to be like "it started because the japanese were harrassed first" when for years like YEARS japan has taken black culture/coded things and added it into their own media. This doesn't only apply to black culture, Japan is notorious from borrowing from other cultures. And then those same people will try to gas light you and say it's not from black culture or whatever other culture it comes from. I've seen people say that the Carlton dance in the intro isn't a reference to fresh prince..and it's clear to see that those people who make those claims aren't even EDUCATED on the cultures they're speaking about and typically have an confirmation baisis mindset..
TDLR - Japan borrows from every culture, so it's the pot calling the kettle black.
FR, the thing that gets me the most is that they keep speaking for Japanese people when in actuality the ones who are harassing are probably not, it’s just weirdo weebs
The thing is this isn’t new, Bl@ck people constantly get harassed for including themselves in sh&t, so many Bl@ck cosplayers have been attacked for dressing as an anime character, meanwhile the character isn’t Whyte either and those Whyte cosplays are let off Scott free!
The kicker is to prove that the “Bl@ck community is hypocritical” they’ll pick and choose a few outliers ignoring the fact that
1: they are OUTLIERS, usually when you look into these situations, it’s Whyte idiots picking on Black creators
2: Ain’t nobody in the community justifying that sh&t, but when the culprit is Whyte there’s always an excuse, never any responsibility taken whatsoever
(My bad for the tanget, I just had to get some things off my chest)
Sonic and the secret rings ost is an amazing selection!
Who gives a shit?
Oh btw there’s this chain of anime UA-camr who are like saying“based Japanese” and encouraging the behaviour and the comments in those videos are literally saying that they had it coming normalizing the Hard-R. Like it’s crazy, more and more these folks are blatantly racists, no filter just raw.
Bro since about 2019 they have been harassing Japanese people over their and changing it and putting "#fixed there not Japanese anymore " and tell how to write theirs harassing mangaka cause they dont like what they are doin with their own art and story among other things its not out of nowhere its the same with Asian made games to look at stellar blade they try to say they don't know what a women looks like and shit because the characters were hot and had some jiggle physics
I don’t agree ab lolis. I believe that fiction cannot and should not be what defines your morality and who u are as a person.
📸🤳that’s him officer 👆🏿🗣️
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@sageleaf8962 Whoops 😅thx for correcting me and also……📸🎥📷📹📽️🎞️🤳yup that’s her right there officer! 🗣️👆🏿
@ you’re welcome
I always found the loli thing to be kind of annoying at this point. To me, these are just fictional characters and yeah you can find them weird (and I don’t really care about them myself) but the fact that some people put it on the level of To Catch a Predator is a little bit much. I think people are so obsessed with pinning everyone and anyone as a predator that they’ll use any excuse they can. Every time there’s some discourse regarding loli stuff on social media I roll my eyes and carry on to the next thing.
I hope we can get past this horrible fan art arc in this timeline
frankly it's more of an issue with anime community in general and the vast overlap with white supremacists
Yeah its racist but still we are all missing the reason why this all began the og post cannot be cited as original content they just traced over that scene and is trying to monetise that work while other Japanese artists were harassed and had to take their accounts down due to death threats and stuff for almost a really long time ive seen posts made 2-3 years ago having the same issue
Its just double standards thats bringing this pointless and rather stupid discussion like just shut up and enjoy art what if its black okarun like he looks fire tho can we just move on but yeah we cant afford nice things in this economy
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and its funny when people talk about appropriating Japanese culture when dandadan literality uses African American slang in the dialogue all the time😂
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@@jonathan9044 all the time if you really pay attention to the way the characters talk with each other they really like to say "wicked" which was transformed into black street slang in the 80's
@@cosmicobsidian672Is that on the English dub? Either way, wicked is still a word itself, and considering that they are usually dealing with spirits and crazy aliens, it makes a lot of sense to call some of them wicked
Back to the translation bit, do remember that translation isn't just a 1 to 1 translation of the content, adaptations are made, maybe they change a saying to something of the same meaning but that makes way more sense to a different culture, things like that
I find it HARD that the mangaka or the production of the anime know a slang from US from the 80s
@@cosmicobsidian672 was still widely used by Western people, and remember, not every Japanese word and slag is translated correctly, Okarun never calls girls babe, on the contrary, dandadan is heavy on humour based on japanese culture, it's littered everywhere, you'd have to project a lot because from all the ways they act, they just act like kids, all of their slang is regular kid slang , japanese cultured humor, or whatever jiji and vamola are doing, and there's no point in bringing up the OP since for one those are not the authors vision, and it's certainly not exclusively seen in black culture, that's like saying cosplaying is cultural appropriation, that's an incredible reach
Thats called localization lmao.