Tbh I feel like M28 added this update because he thought that the game was practically “beaten” by the numerous super players, and therefore had to ramp up the difficulty, making ultras common and supers harder to beat (hornet and queen being excessively buffed). I feel like farm rates have actually improved, since more mythics can be looted from ultras, but that only applies to people who are extremely good at the game. As for super hunting, I find some of it fun, to parkour through all the ultra mobs and maybe even perhaps loot. Basically to me this updates feels both more skill and luck based, luck meaning needing higher rarity/better petals to actually progress. btw Bart I remember you from Bee zone :D loved the vid +1like
I agree with your points but about the "beaten the game" part players weren't even close. Instead this update was good because it made super petals much more relevant so there is actually a big difference between ultra and super petals for farming (and sadly depends way more on rng, but at least there are decent farming options for ultra players)
@@SuperYggdradsil no bruh its just that they don't want to grind, early game progress was very bad during world map. Someone literally started new account and got ultras in 3 days without major rng carry
3:25 its more of a true fight instead of dps test sure there are definitely frustrating times when you die to stupid things but it makes it more survival based instead of just reaching a mob and then shredding it
also about the supers not dying thing yes that is problem especially with stuff like bush but it also spreads out loot pool of people who get drops. for example 2 days ago my friend with 5 ultras easily looted a super soldier in garden since there were 2 other supers simultaneously
@@SpookyInside no one can and its partly due to everyone only thinking for themselves, but most supers are lured out before actually killed so I don't see the problem
@@coolmanpantsman yes depends if everyone works together or not (also sewers is reachable like other places although is harder with egg nerf) I'd say the only exception is jungle which is way too overpowered xD
i agree with you because i am an ultra player but I CANNOT loot a super to save my life. It is always manfred and if its not him its another person with a dozen supers. This makes the game frustrating and unless you are willing to spend 3 hours a day for several months grinding to save up legendaries (which I am not) you can forget about getting any more progression in the game
We need large mythic zones back, with 0/extremely rare ultra spawns, and the mere effort of showing up to a super and dealing 1% damage should be enough to get loot (A player will still need full ultras most likely)
1:30 no this is just what happens when you try too much to rush to zones too hard for you instead of just farming in easier areas, there are still full mythic zones with occasional ultras so farm there instead of trying to solo full ultra area
thing is that m28 never fixed, loot to difficulty ratio needs to be better balanced, like ant hell is way easier than jungle and its loot is still pretty insane
Am on full ultra except for magnet and faster and third eye and still cannot solo desert or maze. And yes I used to solo desert every time am free before the update. And yes ur supposed to be at mythic zone with mythics.
@@IsaacLmao111 no... before in world map with full ultra you only get full mythic zones so just farm there. btw if you do the math ultras are slightly more inefficient to kill than mythics in terms of loot so unless you can shred mythics faster than they are spawning its actually not worth going for ultras
by "egg nerf" I mean the size change that prevent using eggs as a shield, as well as the nerf to super egg, which changed it from instant spawn to excessive long spawn
@@SpookyInside its cause old super egg is way too op for full ultra zones, and he indirectly compensated this by making the secondary reload of eggs swap with primary reload so eggs basically got 40% reload buff. also its not excessive, although kind of lame the game simply caculates how much stronger an ultra mob is than mythic mob stats, multiplies reload by that, and then divides by 9 since 1 higher rarity egg
@@SpookyInside the current sbegg is better than it was before... farming wise i always have 2-3 seggers with me so the long reload isn't a problem+sbegg does 8m dmg on base dmg supers with sbur
Look personally I love the update a game is supposed to be hard and unfair sometimes u seem strong just keep grinding u will get to a point of ether you know how to kill the mob bc of skill or u will have supers that just smash them
Before it was a average of 1-2 months to get a ultra now it's like 1-2 weeks if ur very unlucky also with all of the mobs now I think M28 is making a higher lvl boss the game just leveled up a little bit we as players just need to keep going
M28 did this bc of the un balanced player lvl and petal rarity super hunters would kill supers in secs if that's not underwhelming as a Creator then wut is all m28 did was even the playing field then he made it even more fair with check points super hunters are going to increase again and m28 might include another boss and a new petal rarity maybe more talents too I can't wait to see were we going next
I completly agree when you said that, "it became a farming simulator" because its just so grindy. I want to farm uant? get better petals. I need more damage? grind for mbur. try farming somewhere else? too hard. try getting starfish? i need mdandelion. cant get that because too weak? give up and play hornex or smth
Tbh idc about any balance changes, if anything, the reason i quit is because M28 just straight up violates my boy of 9 ulbeggs. I literally play florr and farm all of them because of their size and the joy of bringing horde of massive summon and now they're not any bigger than epic beetle tf
i grinded te for months to have nothing. honestly the whole reason i dont like florr is because it is luck based and i never get rng carried. Until reach came as a talent, i almost quit. never gotten a super before. honestly it isnt that fun anymore but coming back every now and then is still pretty enjoyable
I think that the most recent update with ramming where you could increase body damage and then that would turn into ten times that in poison and then there would be a poison path I thought that it was broken but also really fun because of how those things worked together but then m28 just nerfed it so hard that going for that is just stupid and then he made the game even more grindy because he thought that talents were too cheap and op so he also made talents suck even more I feel like he does not get that what makes the game fun is when you get to combine things and make them have a synergy
everythibng is fine except that ultras didnt get nerfed a DAMN BIT.like how tf i have 5mythics and can barely loot ultra soldier ant (2mleaf,1miris,1mbone),the bone nerf hurt extra hard.
ngl ultras were too easy to loot in ant hell before common ultras, also most people with lower petals often waste too much time trying to loot ultras instead of farming mythic mobs (do some damage and lure to an ultra player to kill quickly). about bone yeah rip it was unecessary especially after termite hell got nerfed so much... anyway don't farm there early game bone is not great and termites are hard
The update is very bad for some zones, such as garden and desert, yet practically unchanged for places like ah2 and sewers. Imo sewers just got this cool new ultra zone, but it still has its old mythic zone. ah2 is now over populated bc of how easy it is to farm. Also m28 did add some cute mechanics like fire ants killing normal ants. Thx for killing that one fire queen ant I brought to ah2 for loot! I'm sorry that I was one of the low leveled ppl who needed a carry lol
As much as M28's push for squad teamwork can be annoying, when I get say it's bad of people looking for a carry i'm more talking about people who want a carry through a super, which can prevent a whole team from getting loot, not just for a pesky ultra queen which I think is fine
Even though rates were nerf I still somehow got 3 u drops also I don't feel like florr io is fun when I farm for 5 hours no ultra and missing an important event like 2 u shinies
If i want to rate this update, it would be 4/10. Yes, the world map (maze) is cool and all but all zones seem too hard for even full super players and P2W like Manfred. With ultras barely being nerfed, zones are difficult and I personally think M28 needs to nerf zones. But I (and most people) should know M28 be like “nuh uh uh, community suffers, money skyrockets.”
If i was m28 i would make it so anyone who deals 1% of super's max hp damage to supers gets loot no matter the player amount because that would kake the game more fair
Florr used to be an entertaining game, however the changes make it becomes more grindy and time-consuming, with no good reward. Absolutely, all florr variants will get boring after some time. Only mf that too addicted to florr or such can play for months.
good games are tested over and over and over and over ... and over again, but in florr,io's case the updates don't really cover up anyrhing from the previous updates, so it feels less and less fun.
no current is way better you just got too used to world map which is bad (if you want to play florr need to learn to cope with changes) sure ultras no longer being "bosses" (more like mobs instantly greeded in 10 seconds) is a thing but its worth lategame being more interesting. before 10 super petals barely matters in even the hardest zones because you have to wait for mobs to spawn now you have to actually get a good team and push for harder zones
yeah, the unnecessary portals were annoying, but many of the zones were fair-enough in their difficulty for late-game players, like starfish and max jungle zones.
Generally, having full ultras shows you've put a significant deal of effort into the game and are rather "good", whatever that means. Having supers means you play the game too much *Or* have ridiculous RNG, and is not a sign that should warrent any form of respect
Tbh I feel like M28 added this update because he thought that the game was practically “beaten” by the numerous super players, and therefore had to ramp up the difficulty, making ultras common and supers harder to beat (hornet and queen being excessively buffed). I feel like farm rates have actually improved, since more mythics can be looted from ultras, but that only applies to people who are extremely good at the game. As for super hunting, I find some of it fun, to parkour through all the ultra mobs and maybe even perhaps loot. Basically to me this updates feels both more skill and luck based, luck meaning needing higher rarity/better petals to actually progress.
btw Bart I remember you from Bee zone :D loved the vid +1like
I agree with your points but about the "beaten the game" part players weren't even close. Instead this update was good because it made super petals much more relevant so there is actually a big difference between ultra and super petals for farming (and sadly depends way more on rng, but at least there are decent farming options for ultra players)
m28 never think of the poor new player
@@SuperYggdradsil no bruh its just that they don't want to grind, early game progress was very bad during world map. Someone literally started new account and got ultras in 3 days without major rng carry
@@SuperYggdradsil The updates get crazier as we speak lmao
@@channelname7105 all of the areas where you can grind are overcrowded so getting loot is hard
3:25 its more of a true fight instead of dps test sure there are definitely frustrating times when you die to stupid things but it makes it more survival based instead of just reaching a mob and then shredding it
also about the supers not dying thing yes that is problem especially with stuff like bush but it also spreads out loot pool of people who get drops. for example 2 days ago my friend with 5 ultras easily looted a super soldier in garden since there were 2 other supers simultaneously
This is only a problem when ultra- players can't reach the supers due to how hard the area they spawn is in, without a carry
@@SpookyInside no one can and its partly due to everyone only thinking for themselves, but most supers are lured out before actually killed so I don't see the problem
@@channelname7105 actually other than desert or sewers, a good amount of people can reach supers like at the end of spiral or the trench
@@coolmanpantsman yes depends if everyone works together or not (also sewers is reachable like other places although is harder with egg nerf) I'd say the only exception is jungle which is way too overpowered xD
i agree with you because i am an ultra player but I CANNOT loot a super to save my life. It is always manfred and if its not him its another person with a dozen supers. This makes the game frustrating and unless you are willing to spend 3 hours a day for several months grinding to save up legendaries (which I am not) you can forget about getting any more progression in the game
some things like a wider range of rarity zones in which to farm are more fun, but i do agree with some points there
We need large mythic zones back, with 0/extremely rare ultra spawns, and the mere effort of showing up to a super and dealing 1% damage should be enough to get loot (A player will still need full ultras most likely)
1:30 no this is just what happens when you try too much to rush to zones too hard for you instead of just farming in easier areas, there are still full mythic zones with occasional ultras so farm there instead of trying to solo full ultra area
thing is that m28 never fixed, loot to difficulty ratio needs to be better balanced, like ant hell is way easier than jungle and its loot is still pretty insane
Am on full ultra except for magnet and faster and third eye and still cannot solo desert or maze. And yes I used to solo desert every time am free before the update. And yes ur supposed to be at mythic zone with mythics.
@@IsaacLmao111 the jelly nerf and the powder revamp made desert impossible without egg squads
@@feedh2o yeah tbh jelly needs to be buffed to old since ultra mobs are common anyways now
@@IsaacLmao111 no... before in world map with full ultra you only get full mythic zones so just farm there. btw if you do the math ultras are slightly more inefficient to kill than mythics in terms of loot so unless you can shred mythics faster than they are spawning its actually not worth going for ultras
What “egg nerf”? Egg is actually better now. Unless he is talking about the size thing?
size nerf means more dps potential but close to unusuable for surviving with eggs as a shield (I agree it was too op but this is sad way to nerf it)
by "egg nerf" I mean the size change that prevent using eggs as a shield, as well as the nerf to super egg, which changed it from instant spawn to excessive long spawn
@@SpookyInside its cause old super egg is way too op for full ultra zones, and he indirectly compensated this by making the secondary reload of eggs swap with primary reload so eggs basically got 40% reload buff. also its not excessive, although kind of lame the game simply caculates how much stronger an ultra mob is than mythic mob stats, multiplies reload by that, and then divides by 9 since 1 higher rarity egg
@@SpookyInside egg size nerf meanwhile way too much lol mythic mobs should be leg mob size and ultra mythic size
@@SpookyInside the current sbegg is better than it was before... farming wise i always have 2-3 seggers with me so the long reload isn't a problem+sbegg does 8m dmg on base dmg supers with sbur
idea: add waves back fr
Fr bro, agreed
Flower.io is basically like floor with waves but only with a square map
Bring all world maps together into 1 huge map that will make plenty of room for players to farm 😊
Look personally I love the update a game is supposed to be hard and unfair sometimes u seem strong just keep grinding u will get to a point of ether you know how to kill the mob bc of skill or u will have supers that just smash them
Before it was a average of 1-2 months to get a ultra now it's like 1-2 weeks if ur very unlucky also with all of the mobs now I think M28 is making a higher lvl boss the game just leveled up a little bit we as players just need to keep going
M28 did this bc of the un balanced player lvl and petal rarity super hunters would kill supers in secs if that's not underwhelming as a Creator then wut is all m28 did was even the playing field then he made it even more fair with check points super hunters are going to increase again and m28 might include another boss and a new petal rarity maybe more talents too I can't wait to see were we going next
I'm hopeful for future updates too; I hope he listens to his community going forwards with the game
@@SpookyInside well most of the community is also braindead
I completly agree when you said that, "it became a farming simulator" because its just so grindy. I want to farm uant? get better petals. I need more damage? grind for mbur. try farming somewhere else? too hard. try getting starfish? i need mdandelion. cant get that because too weak? give up and play hornex or smth
Like this coment if you hate m28
Tbh idc about any balance changes, if anything, the reason i quit is because M28 just straight up violates my boy of 9 ulbeggs. I literally play florr and farm all of them because of their size and the joy of bringing horde of massive summon and now they're not any bigger than epic beetle tf
this change made me quit 😡
I feel like a sequence to calculate the number of players that can loot would work:
1, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64
i grinded te for months to have nothing. honestly the whole reason i dont like florr is because it is luck based and i never get rng carried. Until reach came as a talent, i almost quit. never gotten a super before. honestly it isnt that fun anymore but coming back every now and then is still pretty enjoyable
News update, double required exp and achievements is gonna actually make me quit
I think that the most recent update with ramming where you could increase body damage and then that would turn into ten times that in poison and then there would be a poison path I thought that it was broken but also really fun because of how those things worked together but then m28 just nerfed it so hard that going for that is just stupid and then he made the game even more grindy because he thought that talents were too cheap and op so he also made talents suck even more I feel like he does not get that what makes the game fun is when you get to combine things and make them have a synergy
go alone : boring
go with group: that's ok
go with 10% players in florr io : god
everythibng is fine except that ultras didnt get nerfed a DAMN BIT.like how tf i have 5mythics and can barely loot ultra soldier ant (2mleaf,1miris,1mbone),the bone nerf hurt extra hard.
ngl ultras were too easy to loot in ant hell before common ultras, also most people with lower petals often waste too much time trying to loot ultras instead of farming mythic mobs (do some damage and lure to an ultra player to kill quickly). about bone yeah rip it was unecessary especially after termite hell got nerfed so much... anyway don't farm there early game bone is not great and termites are hard
that's why i switched to hornex, less grind and some bossfight + cool rewards
the ultra one is the worst, but its not litellary m28 fault its the community itself. they choose to make ultra unspecial, so they just blame themself
Well the dev should not be democratic then
i looted...... TWO super crab+a sfly but didnt got utali drop atleast.. not talking about crabs.. certified 2m moment
bro really using mmag at a shornet
The update is very bad for some zones, such as garden and desert, yet practically unchanged for places like ah2 and sewers. Imo sewers just got this cool new ultra zone, but it still has its old mythic zone. ah2 is now over populated bc of how easy it is to farm. Also m28 did add some cute mechanics like fire ants killing normal ants.
Thx for killing that one fire queen ant I brought to ah2 for loot! I'm sorry that I was one of the low leveled ppl who needed a carry lol
As much as M28's push for squad teamwork can be annoying, when I get say it's bad of people looking for a carry i'm more talking about people who want a carry through a super, which can prevent a whole team from getting loot, not just for a pesky ultra queen which I think is fine
@@SpookyInside Oh, I was just trying to farm stars. I see your point though.
It doesnt semm so bad and its kinda fun
cocomelons thoughts
I dont want carries coz i just join a random squad n go
This is off topic but.. w background music
Even though rates were nerf I still somehow got 3 u drops also I don't feel like florr io is fun when I farm for 5 hours no ultra and missing an important event like 2 u shinies
If i want to rate this update, it would be 4/10. Yes, the world map (maze) is cool and all but all zones seem too hard for even full super players and P2W like Manfred. With ultras barely being nerfed, zones are difficult and I personally think M28 needs to nerf zones. But I (and most people) should know M28 be like “nuh uh uh, community suffers, money skyrockets.”
If i was m28 i would make it so anyone who deals 1% of super's max hp damage to supers gets loot no matter the player amount because that would kake the game more fair
Florr used to be an entertaining game, however the changes make it becomes more grindy and time-consuming, with no good reward.
Absolutely, all florr variants will get boring after some time. Only mf that too addicted to florr or such can play for months.
The proper boss fight supers
tbh im having the most fun ever
good games are tested over and over and over and over ... and over again, but in florr,io's case the updates don't really cover up anyrhing from the previous updates, so it feels less and less fun.
third eye nerf is rewarding but yet made some players like manfred lose money. Third eye lost all of its value of rarity and utility because of reach.
that is why i retired from io games sometimes i play now
Bro use yin yang for bubbling
no current is way better you just got too used to world map which is bad (if you want to play florr need to learn to cope with changes) sure ultras no longer being "bosses" (more like mobs instantly greeded in 10 seconds) is a thing but its worth lategame being more interesting. before 10 super petals barely matters in even the hardest zones because you have to wait for mobs to spawn now you have to actually get a good team and push for harder zones
this game is way too grindy and supers are unlootable because of the player loot cap for super mobs and the super players increasing in number.
megas are coming trust
New rarity?
Maybe make single player games
Gg on the ute
real(not like im banned)
florr is NOT a farming simulator
What is it then?
it is ylthen what dum
Womp womp world map florr was boring shit as it was full of unnecessary portals and not challenging at all due to no zones with high ultra spawn rates
You would have a better chance of looting that shornet if you used sponge or was more careful
yeah, the unnecessary portals were annoying, but many of the zones were fair-enough in their difficulty for late-game players, like starfish and max jungle zones.
It’s just because you are not good enough and trying to said the game is bad
Bro, he's not grinding 24/7
i'd like to see you survive in the ultra zones
Generally, having full ultras shows you've put a significant deal of effort into the game and are rather "good", whatever that means. Having supers means you play the game too much *Or* have ridiculous RNG, and is not a sign that should warrent any form of respect
@@TankieBoi W, I agree
rng ute coping
It kind of sucks actually
cope harder you just need to farm and supers are ridiculously easy to farm for and kill