I support Professor Manyora when he says " the problem with Kenya is that we elect leaders who can't think right for our country. They are elected to go and enrich themselves instead of working for the Kenyans who elect them"😭😭😭😭😭🇬🇧
Adrian and prof manyora you guys are wrong kenyans leaders truly performances compare to neighbouring countries general economy and infrastructures! We all know Prof Manyora is just an elder Kenyan who has bias interests which is common in everyone in Kenyans and else where. The 5th president of kenya will performance much better than any one wait and see within the future not in the future.
The MP is 100% CORRECT. Watu waache emotions. Its is not a tribal thing. What he is saying basically is that some North Eastern MPs have been paying for pilot classes and international schools to students in their constituencies since the population is very low some even less than 5,000 residents while Central Kenya and Western and Rift Valley MPs represent over 100,000 residents per constituency and still get the same amount of NG-CDF which is an injustice when disbursing bursaries so what he meant is if that disparity isnt addressed then students should be made to school in their regions and thus develop their capacity in their regions. That was idea in the first place when the quota system was adopted but people became comfortable and now endlessly complain how central kenya gets more yet now with devolution all we see are new high rise apartments at Eastleigh at the expense of tax payers of those regions. People don't like change but it is change that make things better so KAGOMBE forge on! They will only appreciate you 20yrs from now. It is the difficult talk that need to be had no matter how unpopular it is.
That Kagombe man is telling a lot of lies. I had a son in Mangu and whenever the school needed an Extra Classes or any school other school development project, parents were always asked to pay and we paid faithfully. These are the same people who refused BBI. So I don't see why he is speaking like he has just landed from Russia😅😅😭😭😭😭😭👏🇬🇧
Mt. Kenya has been in power for 15 years + 10 years + 10 years=35 years out of possible 60 years. They are still crying about "equal distribution" and "marginalisation" The entitlement! Awuoro!
Can the national government give funds direct to the school to all students in need? I hate this issue of some regions feeling they are better than others!!! A day is coming, the show will be on the other leg!
There's nothing about feeling better actually people in central kikuyus are actually disenfranchised in Kenya because of the quota system created by MOI to discriminate against us, if you have not been listening there was time wamuchomba was complaining she had kids who wanted to go to alliance with 400 plus and they were been denied ,till there was even a problem of illiteracy because kiambu kids were not going to high school because all the schools would not accept them that's why one mp built a nice school so and made it permanently a day school to ensure kids from his area will have a school for future generations , anyway the more gikuyu people want to be people pleasers you future generations fate will be bleak even other countries people atten the local schools up to college and you pay higher fees for going out of your locality all this regions have schools by the way, and by the way MOI blocked kikuyus from attending local universities too which is why so many people went to India in the 90s, we are kenyans too much as people hate us
@@marywanjiku8162 it's the only country with national schools that everyone in the whole country wants to attend and Matiangi made things worse he nationalised other local schools in Nyeri and when he was doing it he made a spiteful comment that I know people like to complain that thy will be sidelined by national lisation ,anyway those other national schools no one wants to attend,iam sure if there is a national school in Mandera you will not take your child there
@@marywanjiku8162 amI am not from Kiambu but t feel their pain and it's the same pain people in Nyeri are going through all our nice provincial schools and harrambee schools were nationalised us people f on nyeri we have only been going to school in Nyeri or Kiambu since the 1960s so we shall keep on fighting bfor our future generations to go to school in Nyeri even those other people can build there own schools in NEP and pastrolists I don't see why they have never done it coz even mpeketoni people even been a settlement of the 70s they have built their own schools ATA ikiwa ni shule rough rough ya mabati ama undongo Bora watoto wasome kwao j don't vwhy kenyans and Africans were decieved the only way to educate children is boarding schools far away that a colonial idea children for centuries since ancient Egyptian times children go to study in the day and go home to their parents and community to learn to survive even western countries have been able to educate all their kids coz they go to day schools vtheg are cheaper
The BBI was a trojan horse. I'm glad the judiciary stopped that nonsense. Just because it had two good recommendations doesn't mean it was entirely good.
The MP should know that the schools he is referring to are national schools built by the government using our taxes. Most national schools were built in kiambu and Nairobi by the colonial government. And all Kenyans have a right to them. I agree that school built with cdf or through Harambe be used by kiambu natives but not national schools
Actually no they are all mission schools built with local labor local contributions and additional from the church ,the govt just came and called the national , you think MOI built any school in this country not him and the schools in central were built by also parents holding harrambees in fact they used to be called harrambee schools and streams
At least they have the option they can attend kiambu universities even other countries you attend a local college too kiambu has so many colleges they can attend too
@george Kin Thank God the universities you've listed are thinking of enrolling students from around the country, region & world to diversify their student bodies, comprehensively finance their operations. This inside the box thinking can be costly all round. Havard won't be that school if they only accepted applicants from the state of Massachusetts in the US.
@@janendegwa5462 that could partly be due to a lack of global diversity - including faculty - that would engender new or groundbreaking ways of running these institutions. It's outdated to continue to exclude others in the tech world that we live in. Looking inward, excluding others has zero advantage. I can't believe we're discussing this in 2023.
A residence of whichever area within Kenya cannot be defined by a mere voter rights. After all how many people vote vs people who don't, the people who dont vote are many!
Stop yapping about things you know nothing about. NG-CDF is subject to govt audit like any other. If funds are misused them we should be hearing about people being arraigned in court for misusing public funds. The issue is that fir 40 years after independence, the govt dished out public funds in a skewed manner to favour done regions over others. So infrastructure, including educational infrastructure was intentionally developed unequally. Such skewed development cannot be corrected in a mere 15 or so years. Secondly and more importantly, the govt has a quota system to instill a sense of nationhood among the youth as they approach adulthood. Obviously this MP did not benefit from such a system and he can't widen his perspective to see things beyond his "village lens"!
Expound on the basis of your support. Are you aware that the lop sided development in the country is due to a 40 or so years period after independence during which allocation of national resources was skewed to favour some regions and to work against others? Secondly are you aware that the same theory he is pushing forward need not be limited to NG-CDF. It could rightfully be extended to other sectors where regions/counties become closed to others! Thirdly, have you bothered to think of the very few things that holds this colonial construct called Kenya is the approach of giving students a national exposure during their formative years? There are alot of Kikuyu students learning in institutions in other parts of the country. Should they also pack up and go to their countries? And those doing business outside Kikuyuland? Should they also pack up and go back to their counties? When such thought as this MP is spreading start to germinate, he won't be able to control it. Kenya is held together by a mere thread. Setting into motion the process of cutting that thread is very easy.
@George Odhiambo Tribes need to stay in their own lands including kikuyus in foreigners lands, they need to come back home, before colonialism we had boundaries based on tribal lines.
@@BALASTE But we are not living in the era before colonialists came along. We are not living in the 19th Century. This is 21st Century. If Kenyans can learn in Uganda, Tanzania, South Africa, UK, USA and some even on scholarship, why is some Kikuyu MP having a problem with a Pokot learning in Gatundu, why might a Luo have a problem with a Mkamba learning in a county in Luoland, why should a Masai have a problem with an Elmolo learning in Masailand? When and how do we hope to ever achieve nationhood when we have more problems with ourselves than we have with foreigners? And we are more comfortable in foreign lands than in an adjacent county to ours? If the threads holding Kenya together can no longer hold, then we must, of necessity, seek divorce (secession). But without that then we should be more rational than the kind of argument that this MP is putting forth. It is true Kenya doesn't have to be. It was a colonial construct. But while it is, then we ought to strive to make it work. Just like in a marriage. Steps towards a divorce make sense only after reaching a point of no return.
@George Odhiambo it's just reality, nationhood is non existent in a good number of african countries, it will never happen might aswell stop forcing it before it boils over, everyone needs to go back to their home, I'm sick of seeing foreign tribes in my County.
Hawa mps wa Gatundu hawataki kutumia akili za kuzaliwa.. kwani students from ASAL areas hawafai kupewa CDF ya kuwalipia fee wakienda kusoma huko kiambu. This man is not using his brains.. is just a tribalist. Sasa watoto wa kiambu wakiitwa MASENO, UON, GARISA UNI, KISII UNI, and other universities wasipelekwe huko coz wako na KU kwao.. mjinga huyo.
I thought CDF is govt money and all people contribute to the govt. Why are they giving bursarries instead of making education free for Kenyan students? CDF is illegal. The schools in Kiambu were built by govt. We have idiots in the legislature.
I totally agree with this proposal. If I can make a reference, well, in the U.S. your kid cannot attend a school that is outside his or her district of residence. This is impactful because it means that the relevant authorities are forced to ensure that such facilities in every district are well developed. Also, it helps remove overstraining of resources and facilities in a few districts. I totally agree with this proposition. Kila mtu asomee county anapoishi. Full stop!
Just because it's done in the US doesn't mean it's the right thing. Plus the US is a federal govt. We need integration. The tax money comes from the national government which is inclusive of everyone's tax. The CDF should be distributed according to the population being served. All leaders must be held accountable.
Unaongea ujinga kweli!! For the record Kiambu County people did not build those schools by themselves and those schools were built....staffed and even supported by funds from National Government all over the years and from tax payers nationwide! Kwani hiyo CDF they get inatoka wapi if not from national budget and tax payers not Kiambu County. Secondly maybe you should also not be that dumb to think that there are no students from Kiambu County who are actually admitted and accommodated to study in schools in other counties!! Ule alisema musipeleke mifugo kwa bunge was very right....imagine the selfishness and entitlement of such an idiot purporting to be an MP sent to parliament to actually legislate and even come up with laws that are meant for all Kenyans at large and not just the people of Gatundu South!! And worse still is that someone can come and even support this type of reasoning and try and compare it with the system in the USA as if the demographics are the same!!
He cannot understand the meaning of a resident of kiambu. And he dont know that all national schools built in kiambu were built way back before he even thought he could be an mp. He doesn't know those in Asal areas are using more money to build schools than he uses his NGCDF to upgrade the already existing schools
He is trying to capture legacy Resources from the National Govt in the name of Education. He knows Mangu and schools like that were from actually the colonial error..
Let him know that if what he is advocating is enforced in all aspects.hisbpeople will be the ones to suffer most.Infact it would be great for other Kenyans
@@kentosh120 they should pass a ruling MCA's enforcing day scholar classes in those schools for those kids to attend and add a teacher's aid bto help marking homework and exams
His people willl suffer how the people from Mt Kenya region who live outside my Kenya their kids are not considered for busary or anything ,even equity Bank funds , so they attend private primary schools and go back to Mt Kenya region to attend high schools or end up attending private schools again or day schools , Mt Kenya region people outside the region are independent of anything government like coast they don't get anything from gova
Remind tangatanga that he represents a fraction of the registered voters. He does not represent those who did not vote or those who voted for his competition. The latter are especially unrepresented because they are not shareholders.
Never had the time to speak directly to this man, honestly speaking suits need brains not every man who puts it on has brains, this is Kenya, we are Kenyans and we are urged to interact among ourselves to understand ourselves and others better, from his sentiments will make me ask The Almighty to come down by himself juu such narrow minded speeches could tear this country down to rags.
The boy feels like he's a Bantu Jew in Kenya. Somebody ought to tell this boy we are not the ones who come up with session paper 10 which said that the government should prioritize developing schools along the railway roads and the major roads, which we know the colonizers only build along the road but not in North Eastern. If Kiambu students should only be the ones to use resources put up by missionaries and colonizers, also their teachers should only teach in Kiambu and their students should only study in Kiambu.
Wambua blame your MP since 80s how much money does other counties get i support him, Kiambu infrastructure should prioritize people of Kiambu, you cant have 100k and 2k population be given the same amount. Blame your respective leaders.
@@njoroge2061 do prioritize the same and people will do the same to anyone from Kiambu who's doing the same. Don't give students outside Kiambu bursaries and the same will he done to anyone from Kiambu studying elsewhere. It's that simple. Why do you people think you are gods??
@@ericwambua7210 Kiambu should prioritize their people first, other counties are given funds to build colleges but they squander. Its the same case where North Eastern Mp know that area is prone to draught yet the fop nothing to help their counties, am not saying Kiambu county is perfect.
@@njoroge2061 it's colonial to think Kiambu County build the universities along Thika Road the likes of JKUAT, KU and the rest. Truth is that tribalism played a key role in concentrating the institutions to one part. It's not the North Eastern people who came up with session Paper 10 do marginalize themselves. You guys inherited roads and water systems that had been build by colonial government and you also did development for over 50 years for your areas alone then u want to mean North Eastern should be the same as you coz of county government??
This MP is very stupid. Kenya has a history of extreme favours being extended to some regions while other regions were starved of funds either because the president was not coming from their regions or because other regions held political views divergent from the president's political views. Kenya has a history. It didn't come into existence in 2013.
@@pastorpeter4420 It is the issue at hand that I am addressing. That issue at hand cannot be looked at in isolation. It has a past, a current and a future. Issues don't exist in isolation. There is a reason why the Govt saw it fit to have a quota system to address other broader issues. Firstly is the historical biases that created the present. Secondly is the govts recognition that most Kenyans were becoming adults without ever leaving their villages, both psychologically and physically hence the need to integrate the youth in the hope that it might instill a sense of nationhood. What the MP is proposing is to mould the youth into a bunch of tribalistic villagers and nothing more. Lastly, this MP must be made aware that there are Kikuyus learning in institutions across the country in other counties where leaders have a broader perspective of nationhood. This MP has not grown mentally beyond his village. Talk of a monkey with a loaded AK-47!
Kagombe kwelii Wwe ni Ng'ombee Kwelikweliiii ...who Gave him prestigious schools Such as Mangu ,Alliance and Starehee ..These are National Schools &Are for Students Who Are Kenyans Countrywide ❤🥹🥰
let us reverse kenya let central be marginalised for 50 years then we can share resources per kilomerter for large counties and per person for densely populated counties, let us stop tribalphobia some counties watched develeopment for 50 years yet received nothing
The only thing that will save this country is brave gallant men who will not buckle under the weight of an emotionally charged mass. Stand with truth, fact and what is right. The Mp was 100% right. Simama hivyo na usitishwe. Seek other who share your insight, and together push for your agenda.
Conveniently looking to Hijavk what He didn't Build!!!! National schools were build by National Govt Funds, lame argument from the MP, it is a tribal issue masquerading as a devolution issue
In usa/UK/Australia u get priority first to go to the school in yr zone.Watoto wa hio Surburb get first priority to join the surroundings schools then they give very few from outside so it’s the Mp I support him but most folks thinks he is tribal?I support it 100%
Ochieng is very active on this wall opposing... he know that he and those of his like are one known to deprive many of other people regions not only schools but even wanting to run affaires of where they do not belong.
From the public statement, Mr GG sounded kinda racist but with answers from spice fm , his statement was logical only people with tribal thinking. Most governments allocate money by identifying people living in certain area regardless of race. Eg if you live kiambu but you come from another area you'll not be discriminated because you live there thus your taxes are paid there. In other words he's correct.
This Dishonorable member is a disgrace to leadership...What if we say that even those doing the business outside Kiambu MUST be chased a way? It can be done.Kila Mtoto atacheza kwao basi.
What if we narrow it down to constituency level? Kangombe you got no public schools in your area of jurisdiction, so even the schools you think you have the bragging rights are not your area in the real sense. As a member of parliament, of which it's national, leaders should come up with laws that guarantee every citizen equal rights and opportunities from any location. When the courts gave the verdict that members of parliament should not play executive roles but oversight, legislate and represent, was based on, legislators not understanding their roles. Now MPs have been reduced to clerks for bursary allocation, your roles are more than that Kangombe.
The utterances were unfortunate and very disappointing. Most in this country has been beneficiary of interchange of culture by way of schooling out of their local schools. And some of this school’s were not solely constructed by the locals themselves. Some where missionary’s agenda and again the parents in old days used to pay what was called building fee.
A gentleman by the name of Nick Griffin of a far-right political party called British National Party would often make comments like these. However the media blindsided him and by not airing his speeches made him irrelevant. The problem is that in Kenya the media elevates such characters. We give them a spotlight. Thats how the media birthed celebrity tribalists like Moses Kuria.
I find it quite difficult to concur with this thought. Are we therefore saying that kiambu should stop benefiting from the expertise of teachers, nurses, and other professionals from other counties???
But the cost of providing most services is dependant upon population and geagraphic area of the the population being served. High population density lowers the cost of providing infrastructural services. Whereas one km of road may reach hundreds of people in a densely populated area, the same km of road might serve just one person. The same principle applies to piped water and sewerage. Health services too. "One man, one vote, one shilling" is a defective policy.
Let there be equal distribution of national funds to all parts of the country,, population is a good metric but shouldn't be the main primary metric,, we need the whole country to develop, by this you can cure the mentality of the whole country flooding to Nairobi etc because that's where the money or development is. Let people from these overcrowded places also move to the less crowded but developed places. The country is all ours belongs to all of us. The counties should be attractive prospects too where by people shift back,,, what MP Kangombe is saying has a touch of tribal bigotry in it sadly.
These young man is really annoying by his poor explanation as to why other students should not get education in mangu high. Facilities in mangu mostly is from national government.
The one man one shilling thing is extremely selfishness. Areas with high population are always related with higher income. That means there are more businesses, better infrastructure and more taxes for such a county too. That also means more people in the highly populates areas can afford to pay for goods and services. So, why would you compare such a people with those ones who wake up every day not knowing where to start the day to get something to fill their stomach and that of the family? In those areas they actually even need to be built, let alone schools and colleges, but also houses, social halls, toilets, markets, etc in addition to full fees for the few students who go to school and pass exams. If by taking their kids for aeroplane pilot courses they would improve so be it. All the same it is true that people in the hitherto marginalized areas, like Kenya itself, need to hold their leaders more accountable in how many is spent. Today most of the money goes to seminars benchmarking trips, travel and other associated expenses, medical health general insurance insurance for the county officers and staff, brand new fuel guzzler SUVs building of offices and houses for the governor and chief officers etc. In brief, a large chunk of money received is spent on direct consumption and/benefit of county officers than issues of long term benefit of the populace (which often require use of significant brain work).
I support Professor Manyora when he says " the problem with Kenya is that we elect leaders who can't think right for our country. They are elected to go and enrich themselves instead of working for the Kenyans who elect them"😭😭😭😭😭🇬🇧
Kenyans are no different from these politicians they elect then because they want them to favor their community over the others.
Adrian and prof manyora you guys are wrong kenyans leaders truly performances compare to neighbouring countries general economy and infrastructures!
We all know Prof Manyora is just an elder Kenyan who has bias interests which is common in everyone in Kenyans and else where.
The 5th president of kenya will performance much better than any one wait and see within the future not in the future.
I hope this guest rethinks he's personality as a human being
The MP is 100% CORRECT. Watu waache emotions. Its is not a tribal thing. What he is saying basically is that some North Eastern MPs have been paying for pilot classes and international schools to students in their constituencies since the population is very low some even less than 5,000 residents while Central Kenya and Western and Rift Valley MPs represent over 100,000 residents per constituency and still get the same amount of NG-CDF which is an injustice when disbursing bursaries so what he meant is if that disparity isnt addressed then students should be made to school in their regions and thus develop their capacity in their regions. That was idea in the first place when the quota system was adopted but people became comfortable and now endlessly complain how central kenya gets more yet now with devolution all we see are new high rise apartments at Eastleigh at the expense of tax payers of those regions. People don't like change but it is change that make things better so KAGOMBE forge on! They will only appreciate you 20yrs from now. It is the difficult talk that need to be had no matter how unpopular it is.
That Kagombe man is telling a lot of lies. I had a son in Mangu and whenever the school needed an Extra Classes or any school other school development project, parents were always asked to pay and we paid faithfully.
These are the same people who refused BBI. So I don't see why he is speaking like he has just landed from Russia😅😅😭😭😭😭😭👏🇬🇧
Good point.
He is a real ng'ombe
You are just commenting for the sake of commenting. What a pity!
@@DeanJohn-sg9ji You are the voter to be pitied.....train yourself to think within the box,outside the box and without the box....
Then you confirm that schs are built by parents. Watu wajenge shule kwenye wanaita kwao!
Y don't we divide the country n everybody stays n benefits from his land tuone kama there will be a country
And when UK and RAO wanted that in the bbi they were condemned, we are all Kenyans and Kenya is our business
BBI had 30 % dove siting on 70% dragon eggs to be hatched.
@@pastorpeter4420 Tell us about the dragon.
crazy politicians, one man vote was explained clearly by uhuru and tinga, they didn't listen, too late.
Mt. Kenya has been in power for 15 years + 10 years + 10 years=35 years out of possible 60 years. They are still crying about "equal distribution" and "marginalisation"
The entitlement!
Awuoro!
Can we also talk about the teachers teaching in those schools and see how many remain there? Whats wrong with these kind of leaders
Absolutely. Some leaders have failed to develop their minds beyond their villages. This MP is such a leader.
Teachers?
We have huge backlog of unemployed teachers..
Can the national government give funds direct to the school to all students in need? I hate this issue of some regions feeling they are better than others!!! A day is coming, the show will be on the other leg!
There's nothing about feeling better actually people in central kikuyus are actually disenfranchised in Kenya because of the quota system created by MOI to discriminate against us, if you have not been listening there was time wamuchomba was complaining she had kids who wanted to go to alliance with 400 plus and they were been denied ,till there was even a problem of illiteracy because kiambu kids were not going to high school because all the schools would not accept them that's why one mp built a nice school so and made it permanently a day school to ensure kids from his area will have a school for future generations , anyway the more gikuyu people want to be people pleasers you future generations fate will be bleak even other countries people atten the local schools up to college and you pay higher fees for going out of your locality all this regions have schools by the way, and by the way MOI blocked kikuyus from attending local universities too which is why so many people went to India in the 90s, we are kenyans too much as people hate us
@@janendegwa5462 Is kiambu the only county with national schools?
@@marywanjiku8162 it's the only country with national schools that everyone in the whole country wants to attend and Matiangi made things worse he nationalised other local schools in Nyeri and when he was doing it he made a spiteful comment that I know people like to complain that thy will be sidelined by national lisation ,anyway those other national schools no one wants to attend,iam sure if there is a national school in Mandera you will not take your child there
@@janendegwa5462 Do you know the number of national schools in Kirinyaga and Nyeris county? How many students in Kiambu qualify for national schools?
@@marywanjiku8162 amI am not from Kiambu but t feel their pain and it's the same pain people in Nyeri are going through all our nice provincial schools and harrambee schools were nationalised us people f on nyeri we have only been going to school in Nyeri or Kiambu since the 1960s so we shall keep on fighting bfor our future generations to go to school in Nyeri even those other people can build there own schools in NEP and pastrolists I don't see why they have never done it coz even mpeketoni people even been a settlement of the 70s they have built their own schools ATA ikiwa ni shule rough rough ya mabati ama undongo Bora watoto wasome kwao j don't vwhy kenyans and Africans were decieved the only way to educate children is boarding schools far away that a colonial idea children for centuries since ancient Egyptian times children go to study in the day and go home to their parents and community to learn to survive even western countries have been able to educate all their kids coz they go to day schools vtheg are cheaper
We will never shun exams cheating,tribalism and corruption when we continue having such crop of leaders in our leadership structure.
one man one vote, si mlikataa BBI, mlikataa uhuru....why cry now.
7:24 was what BBI advocating. Mt Kenya aka Kiambu refused it to punish Uhuru Kenyatta.
The BBI was a trojan horse. I'm glad the judiciary stopped that nonsense. Just because it had two good recommendations doesn't mean it was entirely good.
The MP should know that the schools he is referring to are national schools built by the government using our taxes. Most national schools were built in kiambu and Nairobi by the colonial government. And all Kenyans have a right to them. I agree that school built with cdf or through Harambe be used by kiambu natives but not national schools
Actually no they are all mission schools built with local labor local contributions and additional from the church ,the govt just came and called the national , you think MOI built any school in this country not him and the schools in central were built by also parents holding harrambees in fact they used to be called harrambee schools and streams
Will those students only go to universities & colleges within Kiambu?
At least they have the option they can attend kiambu universities even other countries you attend a local college too kiambu has so many colleges they can attend too
They also have enough universities for kiambu peope,KU,JkUAT,Kikuyu campus etc.
@george Kin Thank God the universities you've listed are thinking of enrolling students from around the country, region & world to diversify their student bodies, comprehensively finance their operations. This inside the box thinking can be costly all round. Havard won't be that school if they only accepted applicants from the state of Massachusetts in the US.
@@Onderiz by the way this universities don't have good facilities to attract students from anywhere else apart from those that like UON like Sudanese
@@janendegwa5462 that could partly be due to a lack of global diversity - including faculty - that would engender new or groundbreaking ways of running these institutions. It's outdated to continue to exclude others in the tech world that we live in. Looking inward, excluding others has zero advantage. I can't believe we're discussing this in 2023.
This mheshimiwa is a regional protectionist masquerading as a county patriot.
A residence of whichever area within Kenya cannot be defined by a mere voter rights. After all how many people vote vs people who don't, the people who dont vote are many!
He is right children should attend day schools in their homes
Strange argument. 😅😅😅. Instead of blaming tribes ambia senate ifanye kazi😮
people should develop their areas...how can you be given funds when you cannot even build a classroom?
Stop yapping about things you know nothing about. NG-CDF is subject to govt audit like any other. If funds are misused them we should be hearing about people being arraigned in court for misusing public funds.
The issue is that fir 40 years after independence, the govt dished out public funds in a skewed manner to favour done regions over others. So infrastructure, including educational infrastructure was intentionally developed unequally. Such skewed development cannot be corrected in a mere 15 or so years. Secondly and more importantly, the govt has a quota system to instill a sense of nationhood among the youth as they approach adulthood. Obviously this MP did not benefit from such a system and he can't widen his perspective to see things beyond his "village lens"!
I am from Kiambu na huyu ni ng'ombe kabisa!
I really fail to understand what is wrong with katundu south MPs, likes of kuria and now this one, very thinkless
Thinking like a village chang'aa brewer. !
Just as the name suggests, reflects the thinking.
Fact
I support the man 💯💯
Expound on the basis of your support. Are you aware that the lop sided development in the country is due to a 40 or so years period after independence during which allocation of national resources was skewed to favour some regions and to work against others?
Secondly are you aware that the same theory he is pushing forward need not be limited to NG-CDF. It could rightfully be extended to other sectors where regions/counties become closed to others!
Thirdly, have you bothered to think of the very few things that holds this colonial construct called Kenya is the approach of giving students a national exposure during their formative years? There are alot of Kikuyu students learning in institutions in other parts of the country. Should they also pack up and go to their countries? And those doing business outside Kikuyuland? Should they also pack up and go back to their counties? When such thought as this MP is spreading start to germinate, he won't be able to control it. Kenya is held together by a mere thread. Setting into motion the process of cutting that thread is very easy.
@George Odhiambo Tribes need to stay in their own lands including kikuyus in foreigners lands, they need to come back home, before colonialism we had boundaries based on tribal lines.
@@BALASTE But we are not living in the era before colonialists came along. We are not living in the 19th Century. This is 21st Century. If Kenyans can learn in Uganda, Tanzania, South Africa, UK, USA and some even on scholarship, why is some Kikuyu MP having a problem with a Pokot learning in Gatundu, why might a Luo have a problem with a Mkamba learning in a county in Luoland, why should a Masai have a problem with an Elmolo learning in Masailand? When and how do we hope to ever achieve nationhood when we have more problems with ourselves than we have with foreigners? And we are more comfortable in foreign lands than in an adjacent county to ours? If the threads holding Kenya together can no longer hold, then we must, of necessity, seek divorce (secession). But without that then we should be more rational than the kind of argument that this MP is putting forth. It is true Kenya doesn't have to be. It was a colonial construct. But while it is, then we ought to strive to make it work. Just like in a marriage. Steps towards a divorce make sense only after reaching a point of no return.
@George Odhiambo it's just reality, nationhood is non existent in a good number of african countries, it will never happen might aswell stop forcing it before it boils over, everyone needs to go back to their home, I'm sick of seeing foreign tribes in my County.
@@BALASTE Spoken like a true idiot, heri ungenyamaza
We have the same problems here in Kisii,Mheshimiwa shout louder!
Hawa mps wa Gatundu hawataki kutumia akili za kuzaliwa.. kwani students from ASAL areas hawafai kupewa CDF ya kuwalipia fee wakienda kusoma huko kiambu. This man is not using his brains.. is just a tribalist. Sasa watoto wa kiambu wakiitwa MASENO, UON, GARISA UNI, KISII UNI, and other universities wasipelekwe huko coz wako na KU kwao.. mjinga huyo.
I support that
I thought CDF is govt money and all people contribute to the govt. Why are they giving bursarries instead of making education free for Kenyan students? CDF is illegal. The schools in Kiambu were built by govt. We have idiots in the legislature.
I totally agree with this proposal. If I can make a reference, well, in the U.S. your kid cannot attend a school that is outside his or her district of residence. This is impactful because it means that the relevant authorities are forced to ensure that such facilities in every district are well developed. Also, it helps remove overstraining of resources and facilities in a few districts. I totally agree with this proposition. Kila mtu asomee county anapoishi. Full stop!
You haven't thought out that well....Do you know the history of National Schools and why they R called National?
Ukipigwa job transfer what happens?
Just because it's done in the US doesn't mean it's the right thing. Plus the US is a federal govt. We need integration. The tax money comes from the national government which is inclusive of everyone's tax. The CDF should be distributed according to the population being served. All leaders must be held accountable.
Unaongea ujinga kweli!!
For the record Kiambu County people did not build those schools by themselves and those schools were built....staffed and even supported by funds from National Government all over the years and from tax payers nationwide! Kwani hiyo CDF they get inatoka wapi if not from national budget and tax payers not Kiambu County.
Secondly maybe you should also not be that dumb to think that there are no students from Kiambu County who are actually admitted and accommodated to study in schools in other counties!!
Ule alisema musipeleke mifugo kwa bunge was very right....imagine the selfishness and entitlement of such an idiot purporting to be an MP sent to parliament to actually legislate and even come up with laws that are meant for all Kenyans at large and not just the people of Gatundu South!!
And worse still is that someone can come and even support this type of reasoning and try and compare it with the system in the USA as if the demographics are the same!!
Think and stop this nonsense we are not in USA you are not a politician think like an ordinary citizen and a parent with children going to school
He cannot understand the meaning of a resident of kiambu. And he dont know that all national schools built in kiambu were built way back before he even thought he could be an mp. He doesn't know those in Asal areas are using more money to build schools than he uses his NGCDF to upgrade the already existing schools
Show us the schools built please
He is trying to capture legacy Resources from the National Govt in the name of Education. He knows Mangu and schools like that were from actually the colonial error..
Where did this man go to school?
THATS HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE HAS HE SAYS IT . IF NOT THEN WHY IS KENYA DEVIDED INTO REGIONS AND COUNTIES????
Let him know that if what he is advocating is enforced in all aspects.hisbpeople will be the ones to suffer most.Infact it would be great for other Kenyans
30 percent of Kiambu residents aren't Kikuyus, whether one is a kao. Luo, luhya .... Kiambu is their home.
It should be that way that make schools even cheaper ,kids should attend day schools Inthe homes hospitals at their homes etc
@@kentosh120 they should pass a ruling MCA's enforcing day scholar classes in those schools for those kids to attend and add a teacher's aid bto help marking homework and exams
His people willl suffer how the people from Mt Kenya region who live outside my Kenya their kids are not considered for busary or anything ,even equity Bank funds , so they attend private primary schools and go back to Mt Kenya region to attend high schools or end up attending private schools again or day schools , Mt Kenya region people outside the region are independent of anything government like coast they don't get anything from gova
Mhesh pole. I learnt out of my constituency and county, but NGCDF busury I was given. Coz I came from my constituency primarily.
BBI was to address that, however politics cheap politics took centre stage
Remind tangatanga that he represents a fraction of the registered voters. He does not represent those who did not vote or those who voted for his competition. The latter are especially unrepresented because they are not shareholders.
Never had the time to speak directly to this man, honestly speaking suits need brains not every man who puts it on has brains, this is Kenya, we are Kenyans and we are urged to interact among ourselves to understand ourselves and others better, from his sentiments will make me ask The Almighty to come down by himself juu such narrow minded speeches could tear this country down to rags.
He has a valid point.
If every county is allocated resources,
equitably,
Why would one county cloud out another county's limited resources?
Surely..
That is sic
.....has this guy been to northern Kenya?
The boy feels like he's a Bantu Jew in Kenya. Somebody ought to tell this boy we are not the ones who come up with session paper 10 which said that the government should prioritize developing schools along the railway roads and the major roads, which we know the colonizers only build along the road but not in North Eastern.
If Kiambu students should only be the ones to use resources put up by missionaries and colonizers, also their teachers should only teach in Kiambu and their students should only study in Kiambu.
Wambua blame your MP since 80s how much money does other counties get i support him, Kiambu infrastructure should prioritize people of Kiambu, you cant have 100k and 2k population be given the same amount. Blame your respective leaders.
@@njoroge2061 do prioritize the same and people will do the same to anyone from Kiambu who's doing the same. Don't give students outside Kiambu bursaries and the same will he done to anyone from Kiambu studying elsewhere. It's that simple. Why do you people think you are gods??
@@ericwambua7210 Who said we are gods we want equitable share of resources.
@@ericwambua7210 Kiambu should prioritize their people first, other counties are given funds to build colleges but they squander. Its the same case where North Eastern Mp know that area is prone to draught yet the fop nothing to help their counties, am not saying Kiambu county is perfect.
@@njoroge2061 it's colonial to think Kiambu County build the universities along Thika Road the likes of JKUAT, KU and the rest. Truth is that tribalism played a key role in concentrating the institutions to one part.
It's not the North Eastern people who came up with session Paper 10 do marginalize themselves. You guys inherited roads and water systems that had been build by colonial government and you also did development for over 50 years for your areas alone then u want to mean North Eastern should be the same as you coz of county government??
Small minded people... The country builds schools then you claim them.... How silly
The parents who did not get bursaries are the non-shareholders.
And that what is supposed. If not why Then divide the country into regions and counties
This MP is very stupid. Kenya has a history of extreme favours being extended to some regions while other regions were starved of funds either because the president was not coming from their regions or because other regions held political views divergent from the president's political views. Kenya has a history. It didn't come into existence in 2013.
Give a transparency of alternative and objective approach.
Do not tell us what you think about the mp to your limitations, talk of the issue at hand.
@@pastorpeter4420 It is the issue at hand that I am addressing. That issue at hand cannot be looked at in isolation. It has a past, a current and a future. Issues don't exist in isolation. There is a reason why the Govt saw it fit to have a quota system to address other broader issues. Firstly is the historical biases that created the present. Secondly is the govts recognition that most Kenyans were becoming adults without ever leaving their villages, both psychologically and physically hence the need to integrate the youth in the hope that it might instill a sense of nationhood. What the MP is proposing is to mould the youth into a bunch of tribalistic villagers and nothing more.
Lastly, this MP must be made aware that there are Kikuyus learning in institutions across the country in other counties where leaders have a broader perspective of nationhood. This MP has not grown mentally beyond his village. Talk of a monkey with a loaded AK-47!
Kagombe kwelii Wwe ni Ng'ombee Kwelikweliiii ...who Gave him prestigious schools Such as Mangu ,Alliance and Starehee ..These are National Schools &Are for Students Who Are Kenyans Countrywide ❤🥹🥰
Maybe also teacher from other county should stay in their county. Then we see hii ujaja yake itafika wapi
They are 39 public secondary school in Gatundu not 28 also boarding schools admit students from outside Gatundu
Let him start with allowing only teachers from that area to teach there and other teachers to go teach in their locality.
🤣 We OKuyus will never be able to read news....
Indio mnachukiwa .you don't think before you talk
let us reverse kenya let central be marginalised for 50 years then we can share resources per kilomerter for large counties and per person for densely populated counties, let us stop tribalphobia some counties watched develeopment for 50 years yet received nothing
I totally disagree with your sentiments MP
What retrogressive thinking!
Never allow a politician to say 'You Know, this is not just' hiyo imeenda!
The only thing that will save this country is brave gallant men who will not buckle under the weight of an emotionally charged mass. Stand with truth, fact and what is right. The Mp was 100% right. Simama hivyo na usitishwe. Seek other who share your insight, and together push for your agenda.
Very careless leaders and worrying especially seeing how young this fellow is! This country has finally gone to the dogs!
Conveniently looking to Hijavk what He didn't Build!!!! National schools were build by National Govt Funds, lame argument from the MP, it is a tribal issue masquerading as a devolution issue
For sure wisdom is very discriminatory!
Poor thinking the world is moving beyond school the world is now online
Unfortunate that you are a leader,... understand you are a law maker...those closes are made by you
This man is poison, i don't why DCI didn't arrest him.....
As CT said some People behave like their names
This guy is called small cow
He is thinking like that kagombe
In usa/UK/Australia u get priority first to go to the school in yr zone.Watoto wa hio Surburb get first priority to join the surroundings schools then they give very few from outside so it’s the Mp I support him but most folks thinks he is tribal?I support it 100%
Ignorant comparisons you're making.
He's not right,the government has already given 85% to the students in the region
Ochieng is very active on this wall opposing... he know that he and those of his like are one known to deprive many of other people regions not only schools but even wanting to run affaires of where they do not belong.
From the public statement, Mr GG sounded kinda racist but with answers from spice fm , his statement was logical only people with tribal thinking. Most governments allocate money by identifying people living in certain area regardless of race. Eg if you live kiambu but you come from another area you'll not be discriminated because you live there thus your taxes are paid there. In other words he's correct.
This young man is confused
Born in 1984
What does he know???
Denied by who.
Selection of school to go depend on many factors .
Is education devolved
This mp is forgetting that kikuyus lives in so many counties, so that means all his tribes should leave other counties and go back to his kiambu
Hiyo MP ni ng'ombe
Busury should b sent directly to all public scls
Backward thinking
So teachers should also come from Kiambu only😮
Yes
These guys are only ‘ business people’ hapo wataumia
This Dishonorable member is a disgrace to leadership...What if we say that even those doing the business outside Kiambu MUST be chased a way? It can be done.Kila Mtoto atacheza kwao basi.
What if we narrow it down to constituency level? Kangombe you got no public schools in your area of jurisdiction, so even the schools you think you have the bragging rights are not your area in the real sense. As a member of parliament, of which it's national, leaders should come up with laws that guarantee every citizen equal rights and opportunities from any location. When the courts gave the verdict that members of parliament should not play executive roles but oversight, legislate and represent, was based on, legislators not understanding their roles. Now MPs have been reduced to clerks for bursary allocation, your roles are more than that Kangombe.
The utterances were unfortunate and very disappointing. Most in this country has been beneficiary of interchange of culture by way of schooling out of their local schools. And some of this school’s were not solely constructed by the locals themselves. Some where missionary’s agenda and again the parents in old days used to pay what was called building fee.
This is how the face of tribalism and entitlement looks like. Can Kenya survive such divisiveness?
bringing idiots to TV stations should be illegalized
A gentleman by the name of Nick Griffin of a far-right political party called British National Party would often make comments like these. However the media blindsided him and by not airing his speeches made him irrelevant.
The problem is that in Kenya the media elevates such characters. We give them a spotlight. Thats how the media birthed celebrity tribalists like Moses Kuria.
I find it quite difficult to concur with this thought. Are we therefore saying that kiambu should stop benefiting from the expertise of teachers, nurses, and other professionals from other counties???
Tell ruto to devolve everything and disband centralized government.
Population is the standard always used as the benchmark for distribution of funds. This happens globally. Its the global standard practice
But the cost of providing most services is dependant upon population and geagraphic area of the the population being served. High population density lowers the cost of providing infrastructural services. Whereas one km of road may reach hundreds of people in a densely populated area, the same km of road might serve just one person. The same principle applies to piped water and sewerage. Health services too. "One man, one vote, one shilling" is a defective policy.
one man one shilling vs one kilometer one shilling
The clueless Mp, very tribalist, useless reasoning, out of 700teachers, 500 are from Nyanza, 100 western ,rest kiuks,
99% of these comments are targeting Kikuyus negatively
Kikuyus in mount must know we have very many kikuyus distributed all over kenya so they must think national no local or regional
There should be equitable distribution not equal 2000k and 10000 people cant be givent he same amount.
He used to be Moses Kuria's right hand man. You can guess where the verbal diahharea comes from. His time is coming soon.
Let there be equal distribution of national funds to all parts of the country,, population is a good metric but shouldn't be the main primary metric,, we need the whole country to develop, by this you can cure the mentality of the whole country flooding to Nairobi etc because that's where the money or development is. Let people from these overcrowded places also move to the less crowded but developed places. The country is all ours belongs to all of us. The counties should be attractive prospects too where by people shift back,,, what MP Kangombe is saying has a touch of tribal bigotry in it sadly.
there is a problem in Gatundu leaders from the whole Mt Kenya region,how narrow they reason bafles me
These young man is really annoying by his poor explanation as to why other students should not get education in mangu high. Facilities in mangu mostly is from national government.
ni sawa hata waalimu wafunze kabila zao
This guy is offended but he's not sure by what...
What about the hospitals 😂..hii rai kweli haina nywele kweli
Our leaders very regression mentality,since covid school have become absolutely pointless may as revision and exam center
The one man one shilling thing is extremely selfishness. Areas with high population are always related with higher income. That means there are more businesses, better infrastructure and more taxes for such a county too. That also means more people in the highly populates areas can afford to pay for goods and services. So, why would you compare such a people with those ones who wake up every day not knowing where to start the day to get something to fill their stomach and that of the family? In those areas they actually even need to be built, let alone schools and colleges, but also houses, social halls, toilets, markets, etc in addition to full fees for the few students who go to school and pass exams. If by taking their kids for aeroplane pilot courses they would improve so be it. All the same it is true that people in the hitherto marginalized areas, like Kenya itself, need to hold their leaders more accountable in how many is spent. Today most of the money goes to seminars benchmarking trips, travel and other associated expenses, medical health general insurance insurance for the county officers and staff, brand new fuel guzzler SUVs building of offices and houses for the governor and chief officers etc. In brief, a large chunk of money received is spent on direct consumption and/benefit of county officers than issues of long term benefit of the populace (which often require use of significant brain work).
This is very disturbing!
So kids from Gatundu, which has no National Schoo, should not join any National school in Uasin Gishu. Plain and simple.
Madam let him tell us. Should those who have gone out of Gatundu Come back.?
Just make schools free
This guy is just talking and the more he talks the more he says nothing...😂
You are out of order sir
Clueless is the true definition of this Gatundu S. Mp.