Fr. Gregory, thank you for this timely and wonderfully spoken sermon. I am an Orthodox Christian who has greatly benefited from your sermons and work, thank you for all you do and for your prayers for us all, may God bless you and your ministry. I keep you in my prayers as well!
you've got a wise dad there, I'll bet he said many more wise things to you, now you can pass them all on to others, especially any children / grandchildren you may be blessed with , and they too can pass them on, see how many people your dad is helping way off into the future with his wise words.
Fr. Pine, in my later years with our grown children having children and providing us with such beautiful grandchildren, I find that I am tempted once again as I was when I was a naive teenager having just entered puberty. The return of this temptation has not only upset my Spiritual life but it has also caused me shame because it leads me to believe that in 40 years of marriage to the love of my life that the many advancements in my Spiritual life have been a delusion. I have listened to you, a young priest no older than my children, and have come away so Spiritually fulfilled that everything has settled down within my soul and I will not allow this temptation to take root as a means to discourage me any longer than it has. The Soul of The Apostolate is back on my nightstand. God Bless you!
I used to think russel Brandt was quick and I could barely keep up with him. Fr. Pine’s vocabulary blows my mind. And yet, it’s still so clear! This was great. I just went to confession and needed this! I felt like the priest was too easy on me 😂, but this was perfect timing and made me feel absolved and more forgiven. Thank you!
@@kzbaby2002 the spirit will raise and guide us and that is clearly shown in him Study the word diligently and let the Lord guide you on what is best and you will be seen as wise not because you are wise but because you've allowed the source of all wisdom to abide in you
That was amazing, I'm so glad I stuck to the end. This highly methodical and "academic" way of saying things is actually kinda useful cause you see clearly how on idea follows another
Thank you fr pine and matt... i appreciate your lucid explanation on shame/fear and proper attitude to turn to God... to practice temperance. God bless you both.
What makes me ashamed and sad is that we offend God knowingly. However, I have come to conclusion that God is just and see our hearts. We work to renounce anything that separate from Him of course with the help of the Holy until we are called home.
One thing I struggle with is using confession as a crutch for my sins. Whenever I am most tempted to sin, I often tell myself that I will just go to confession the next day, which compels me to sin even more. I always feel shame when I go to confession because I feel like I am just using it as a "cheap grace" and yet I sin anyway. Does anybody else face the same temptation?
Yes, and it drives me away from confession because I feel like I shouldnt have it if i misuse it in that way, obvious not the way it works its the devil talkin I think
My issue is that I don't deliberately sin with full consent of my will (usually, anyways) but afterwards I'm pretty shameful because in confession I say, "I FIRMLY RESOLVE with the help of your grace, to sin no more." But I don't fully apply that several times throughout each day. I'm trying to get better, it's tough being only human after all. Never give up on confession and find a good, holy, spiritual priest to guide you. Don't be to tough on yourself, but definitely strive for holiness, it's a nonstop daily battle, but so worth running and winning the race!!! 😇
Sinning willfully is very grave. Unless you truly feel contrite and remorseful for doing so, the absolution given by the Priest at the end of your confession is useless. Pray for the discipline to resist the sin so that the devil flees. Also, pray for true humility and trust in God. God bless you!
@@debrasaints3809 Thank you. I believe that those thoughts I have are the devil trying to use the sacrament against me. I really want to get over this habitual mortal sin so that I can focus on venial sins.
I’m so thankful that I have been born again through Jesus Christ, and that my old sinful life has been exchanged and transformed into a new life, a new creation. Now I don’t need to worry anymore about shame, because God’s grace is sufficient, and the sacrifice has already been made. I don’t need to worry about studying complex terminology or descriptions about how shame works and how it can be beneficial. I’m so thankful to have a Savior that it causes me to not want to sin, and repentance for sins that I do commit comes naturally. Praise Jesus Christ my Lord 🙏🏻
Mmmm. This sounds a lot like presumption. It’s also very very similar to the prayer of the Pharisee in Luke, the tone and even the very structure of the words are such a direct parallel. Remember the New Creation verse comes from 2nd Corinthians, a Letter to a Church utterly wallowing in sin and division (see 1st Cor 1, 5, 11 etc) . We are all New Creations thanks to faith, but the one jumping up and down bearing it as some kind of exclusive possession without sympathy for the vast majority of the elect who in broken humility struggle with sin (St Paul included - see the letter you quoted chapter 12) looks more like an old creation because of the pride. Remember “I shall root out from among you your proudly exultant ones” Zeph 3
Inordinate shame should be addressed as well since shame could be used to build an evil generation. "I feel ashamed for being smarter"; "I feel ashamed for being privileged", "I feel ashamed for being good looking" etc... And if shame begets humility, you'll ever only be a child.
Father, what are you supposed to do if the shame isn't coming from something you've done, but coming as a result of being bullied? I've been called tacky, dinky, unfit for my job, my roommates say they shouldn't have to live with my boxes when I've packed up my part of the apartment. I've been yelled at and cornered. I have had my head down for more than a year.
Seems like many people have NO SHAME anymore. Many people seem proud when they do something they should not. Shame happens, I think when on some level the person KNOWS they are doing something they should not.
shame would be different if there still was a catholic contemporary public culture. I think that nowadays especially teenagers might feel shamed into sinning. The sacrament of confirmation is important for them.
Shame is not good. Shame needs to be replaced with Godly Sorrow. Shame is the inability to self reflect. It can become self idolatry or Denial. This is where people seek after self punishment, flogging. They push it down further or manifest new coping mechanisms. They project. Again, seek godly wisdom and sorrow & rebuke all shame. Do not stress the act of sin so much as the bondage which forms as the result of the act.
Because one had the balls to say outloud what everyone thought (You are the Christ), and the other was a thief and chose to betray the Christ (maybe he could not accept a Messiah that was not a warrior king)
@@el_killorcure Yes, of course, but Peter committed a shameful act in denying that he knew Christ to a lowly servant girl. Of course that was a terrible act, but Peter acted out of weakness while Judas Iscariot acted out of hardened contempt for what Christ was. The Sanhedrin also acted out of malice and refused to repent, even after Christ raised not only Lazarus from the dead in front of them, but himself too.
@@magaman6353 Peter was scared crapless of being arrested on the spot, especially when others starting accusing him not just that woman. Remember everyone ran away into the night but him, only he is reported to have followed Jesus to Caifas's house. Gotta give him that credit, at least he tried (then again, who heard Jesus and Pilate spoke if not Peter who had ran away crying before that, and that rapport ended up only in the gospel account of John?). As for the Sanhedrin, did Peter not state in Acts they acted out of ignorance? Jesus only explicitly denounced the group denying the cured blind man and accusing him of being demon possessed (when they could no longer deny his miracles), not the whole Sanhedrin body which only accused him of blasphemy and sedition (remember how Gamaliel, Paul's teacher, warned the Sanhedrin against killing them lest they they would end up fighting against God, and his advice was followed).
Yeah there’s only two types of shame,Sincere shame which a sinner in the Catholic Church is deeply pierced throughout his or her entire being with the most painful,guilty,regretful hurting in one’s self for offending the sweetest most merciful caring loving Lord Jesus Christ for abusing his Mercy and Good.And there’s the moderate type of shame where a sinner in the Catholic Church feels a short time of sorrow or hurt for offending God but as time goes on he or she just naturally forgets about their past sins and what offends God and just falls into presumption on God’s mercy
Shaming comes from satan. If you feel ashamed about anything then you are being attacked. We should feel guilty about our sins but remember to repent and lay your sins at Jesus' feet.
It always seem to me strange and and apsurd to create universe in which bad things gona hapen , and then send Jesus to save us from our/his mistakes ! And in proces lost inumerable created souls to hellfire ? Dont get it !
When God created the world he saw that it was good, according to Genesis. God did not create an evil world. The world is messed up because of the fall of man as a result of the temptation of satan. It isn't God's fault. Christ coming to the world to save us is only a good thing and not a bad thing. Hell is a place where people are deprived of goodness, when you have the love of God in your heart you will experience God's goodness.
It would seem that both you and Thomas almost never cite God's Word. Why not? That to me, as a follower of Christ, is incomprehensible. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God... In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. John 1:1-2, 4-5 One other thing. Did you know that toward the end of Thomas Aquinas' life he had some sort of encounter with the Divine while saying Mass, as a result of which he said that all he had written was "straw", and we know that he was a prodigious writer. He must have meant what he said because he left his Summa Theologiae unfinished. Isaiah 50:7 But the Lord God helps me; therefore I have not been disgraced; therefore I have set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:7-9 I sought the Lord, and He answered me, And delivered me from all my fears. They looked to Him and were radiant, And their faces will never be ashamed. This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him And saved him out of all his troubles. The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him, And rescues them. O taste and see that the Lord is good; How blessed is the man who takes refuge in Him! Psalms 34:4-8 And a thousand other scriptures ...
Fr. Gregory, thank you for this timely and wonderfully spoken sermon. I am an Orthodox Christian who has greatly benefited from your sermons and work, thank you for all you do and for your prayers for us all, may God bless you and your ministry. I keep you in my prayers as well!
my dad used to tell me that shame is only useful when it moves you to improve.
Intelligent father you got there😜
you've got a wise dad there, I'll bet he said many more wise things to you, now you can pass them all on to others, especially any children / grandchildren you may be blessed with , and they too can pass them on, see how many people your dad is helping way off into the future with his wise words.
@@jesusloveshismum I hope so! :D
@@jesusloveshismum Amen❤️❤️
@@marvalice3455 sounds more like guilt
Fr. Pine, you posted this exactly when I needed it . God bless.
Fr. Pine, in my later years with our grown children having children and providing us with such beautiful grandchildren, I find that I am tempted once again as I was when I was a naive teenager having just entered puberty. The return of this temptation has not only upset my Spiritual life but it has also caused me shame because it leads me to believe that in 40 years of marriage to the love of my life that the many advancements in my Spiritual life have been a delusion. I have listened to you, a young priest no older than my children, and have come away so Spiritually fulfilled that everything has settled down within my soul and I will not allow this temptation to take root as a means to discourage me any longer than it has. The Soul of The Apostolate is back on my nightstand. God Bless you!
I will add you in my prayers
May God continue to guide us all
Keep up the good fight Mike!
I used to think russel Brandt was quick and I could barely keep up with him. Fr. Pine’s vocabulary blows my mind. And yet, it’s still so clear! This was great. I just went to confession and needed this! I felt like the priest was too easy on me 😂, but this was perfect timing and made me feel absolved and more forgiven. Thank you!
Same here
Perfect timing for me too!
Great video. I have to keep rewinding him. I too enjoy Russell Brand.
Brandt is a poser.
@@kzbaby2002 the spirit will raise and guide us and that is clearly shown in him
Study the word diligently and let the Lord guide you on what is best and you will be seen as wise not because you are wise but because you've allowed the source of all wisdom to abide in you
Bought two copies of the book Prudence one for myself and one for our church, and it was excellent
Such goodness with humility and intelligence. I enjoy your talks so much Fr. Pine. Thank you.
Father, I am reading your book on Prudence. Loving, enjoying and growing from it.
Thank you for your uncommon eloquence. Very timely for me.
This is exactly what I needed to hear, thank you Fr Pine.
Father Pine, and viewers I will pray for you 🙏
Booom Thank You your a great gift 🎉
Thank you Fr. Pine, I really needed this wisdom. I am walking a tough path right now but God is at work! God Bless you and your ministry!
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Love you father Pine got your book. Love it! Love all you God'splainingi friars and all brothers and sisters!. Love you, Matt!
Thank you! Pray that I have courage to convert in all aspects of my life, even the most painful!
That was amazing, I'm so glad I stuck to the end.
This highly methodical and "academic" way of saying things is actually kinda useful cause you see clearly how on idea follows another
Thank you very much!!! I really needed to hear this, God Bless you!!
I can tell you this with assurance, God wants you to turn to him...❤️
Thank you Fr Gregory Pine, tremendously helpful 🙏 God bless !!
Thank you and God bless you Fr. Pine.
Thank you fr pine and matt... i appreciate your lucid explanation on shame/fear and proper attitude to turn to God... to practice temperance. God bless you both.
Outstanding sermon!
The wisdom you share is so consoling. Thank you, Father!
Thank you Father.
Such an elegant presentation of a truth. Thank you for yet another timely insight.
beautiful Father.
Thank you!
Knucks, bra! Yeah, shame is real. Thank you for this.
Great points about sins unseen, shame, and conversion.
Thank you Fr Pine and all the team at Pints with aquinas!! This video brought me a lot of peace🙌❤
I got the message just when I needed it most. Thank you!
What makes me ashamed and sad is that we offend God knowingly.
However, I have come to conclusion that God is just and see our hearts.
We work to renounce anything that separate from Him of course with the help of the Holy until we are called home.
One thing I struggle with is using confession as a crutch for my sins. Whenever I am most tempted to sin, I often tell myself that I will just go to confession the next day, which compels me to sin even more. I always feel shame when I go to confession because I feel like I am just using it as a "cheap grace" and yet I sin anyway. Does anybody else face the same temptation?
Yes, and it drives me away from confession because I feel like I shouldnt have it if i misuse it in that way, obvious not the way it works its the devil talkin I think
My issue is that I don't deliberately sin with full consent of my will (usually, anyways) but afterwards I'm pretty shameful because in confession I say, "I FIRMLY RESOLVE with the help of your grace, to sin no more." But I don't fully apply that several times throughout each day. I'm trying to get better, it's tough being only human after all. Never give up on confession and find a good, holy, spiritual priest to guide you. Don't be to tough on yourself, but definitely strive for holiness, it's a nonstop daily battle, but so worth running and winning the race!!! 😇
I feel exactly the same way. And yet not going to confession keeps us in the sin. It really is a strong cycle
Sinning willfully is very grave. Unless you truly feel contrite and remorseful for doing so, the absolution given by the Priest at the end of your confession is useless. Pray for the discipline to resist the sin so that the devil flees. Also, pray for true humility and trust in God. God bless you!
@@debrasaints3809 Thank you. I believe that those thoughts I have are the devil trying to use the sacrament against me. I really want to get over this habitual mortal sin so that I can focus on venial sins.
I’m so thankful that I have been born again through Jesus Christ, and that my old sinful life has been exchanged and transformed into a new life, a new creation. Now I don’t need to worry anymore about shame, because God’s grace is sufficient, and the sacrifice has already been made. I don’t need to worry about studying complex terminology or descriptions about how shame works and how it can be beneficial. I’m so thankful to have a Savior that it causes me to not want to sin, and repentance for sins that I do commit comes naturally. Praise Jesus Christ my Lord 🙏🏻
Mmmm. This sounds a lot like presumption. It’s also very very similar to the prayer of the Pharisee in Luke, the tone and even the very structure of the words are such a direct parallel. Remember the New Creation verse comes from 2nd Corinthians, a Letter to a Church utterly wallowing in sin and division (see 1st Cor 1, 5, 11 etc) . We are all New Creations thanks to faith, but the one jumping up and down bearing it as some kind of exclusive possession without sympathy for the vast majority of the elect who in broken humility struggle with sin (St Paul included - see the letter you quoted chapter 12) looks more like an old creation because of the pride. Remember “I shall root out from among you your proudly exultant ones” Zeph 3
Thank you for this!
I've been watching/listening to Fr. Pine for a long time and just now thought he looks like Woody from Toy Story and now I can't unsee it.
This is really good stuff. Really relevant to me right now. Thank you my brother for your Holy words
Inordinate shame should be addressed as well since shame could be used to build an evil generation. "I feel ashamed for being smarter"; "I feel ashamed for being privileged", "I feel ashamed for being good looking" etc... And if shame begets humility, you'll ever only be a child.
When will we acknowledge that we failed to form the consciences of people and society?
Father, what are you supposed to do if the shame isn't coming from something you've done, but coming as a result of being bullied? I've been called tacky, dinky, unfit for my job, my roommates say they shouldn't have to live with my boxes when I've packed up my part of the apartment. I've been yelled at and cornered. I have had my head down for more than a year.
Shame should be a product of your own conscience. Not your peers.
Seems like many people have NO SHAME anymore.
Many people seem proud when they do something they should not.
Shame happens, I think when on some level the person KNOWS they are doing something they should not.
Retreat in NC??
shame would be different if there still was a catholic contemporary public culture. I think that nowadays especially teenagers might feel shamed into sinning. The sacrament of confirmation is important for them.
Does he mean to interchange temperance and prudence, or his he misspeaking when he does so?
Abide in the truth of the body or the matter.
Are these all short vids now? I enjoyed the long format, and never watch the shorter ones.
Shame is not good. Shame needs to be replaced with Godly Sorrow. Shame is the inability to self reflect. It can become self idolatry or Denial. This is where people seek after self punishment, flogging. They push it down further or manifest new coping mechanisms. They project. Again, seek godly wisdom and sorrow & rebuke all shame. Do not stress the act of sin so much as the bondage which forms as the result of the act.
nice
Good Discussion. I was very selfish, prideful, and, judgmental. It bothers me all the time.
Why St. Peter ended up where he did and Judas Iscariot ended up where he did.
Because one had the balls to say outloud what everyone thought (You are the Christ), and the other was a thief and chose to betray the Christ (maybe he could not accept a Messiah that was not a warrior king)
@@el_killorcure Yes, of course, but Peter committed a shameful act in denying that he knew Christ to a lowly servant girl. Of course that was a terrible act, but Peter acted out of weakness while Judas Iscariot acted out of hardened contempt for what Christ was. The Sanhedrin also acted out of malice and refused to repent, even after Christ raised not only Lazarus from the dead in front of them, but himself too.
@@magaman6353 Peter was scared crapless of being arrested on the spot, especially when others starting accusing him not just that woman.
Remember everyone ran away into the night but him, only he is reported to have followed Jesus to Caifas's house. Gotta give him that credit, at least he tried (then again, who heard Jesus and Pilate spoke if not Peter who had ran away crying before that, and that rapport ended up only in the gospel account of John?).
As for the Sanhedrin, did Peter not state in Acts they acted out of ignorance? Jesus only explicitly denounced the group denying the cured blind man and accusing him of being demon possessed (when they could no longer deny his miracles), not the whole Sanhedrin body which only accused him of blasphemy and sedition (remember how Gamaliel, Paul's teacher, warned the Sanhedrin against killing them lest they they would end up fighting against God, and his advice was followed).
Though your sins be scarlet I will make them as white as snow.JC.
Yeah there’s only two types of shame,Sincere shame which a sinner in the Catholic Church is deeply pierced throughout his or her entire being with the most painful,guilty,regretful hurting in one’s self for offending the sweetest most merciful caring loving Lord Jesus Christ for abusing his Mercy and Good.And there’s the moderate type of shame where a sinner in the Catholic Church feels a short time of sorrow or hurt for offending God but as time goes on he or she just naturally forgets about their past sins and what offends God and just falls into presumption on God’s mercy
Fr Pine: are you or Matt acquainted w Jeremiah Bannister? Whoah dude!
Shaming comes from satan. If you feel ashamed about anything then you are being attacked. We should feel guilty about our sins but remember to repent and lay your sins at Jesus' feet.
It always seem to me strange and and apsurd to create universe in which bad things gona hapen , and then send Jesus to save us from our/his mistakes ! And in proces lost inumerable created souls to hellfire ? Dont get it !
When God created the world he saw that it was good, according to Genesis. God did not create an evil world. The world is messed up because of the fall of man as a result of the temptation of satan. It isn't God's fault. Christ coming to the world to save us is only a good thing and not a bad thing. Hell is a place where people are deprived of goodness, when you have the love of God in your heart you will experience God's goodness.
God knows all this in advance, before it hapen , right ?
@@ivanpoljic1790 God is good and if he knows anything in advance he knows that there will be good in the end.
Will it be good for souls in hell ?
It would seem that both you and Thomas almost never cite God's Word. Why not? That to me, as a follower of Christ, is incomprehensible.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God...
In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
John 1:1-2, 4-5
One other thing. Did you know that toward the end of Thomas Aquinas' life he had some sort of encounter with the Divine while saying Mass, as a result of which he said that all he had written was "straw", and we know that he was a prodigious writer. He must have meant what he said because he left his Summa Theologiae unfinished.
Isaiah 50:7
But the Lord God helps me;
therefore I have not been disgraced;
therefore I have set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame.
but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:7-9
I sought the Lord, and He answered me, And delivered me from all my fears. They looked to Him and were radiant, And their faces will never be ashamed. This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him And saved him out of all his troubles. The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him, And rescues them. O taste and see that the Lord is good; How blessed is the man who takes refuge in Him!
Psalms 34:4-8
And a thousand other scriptures ...
Where does this shame stem from? This is a demonic tactic used against Christians when they are not solid in Christ
8:10 pride is based
(this is a joke don't hunt me)
Honestly, "Catholic shame" always seemed to me like a Freudian trope that isn't based on reality.
Depending on how essential your ego is to your success