Roulette Gamblers Fallacy Explained (Debate!!)

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  • @vidtracey
    @vidtracey 3 роки тому +6

    I’m still confused by this, I understand that each spin of a roulette wheel can result in a 50/50 chance of either being black or red (I know it’s slightly less due to 0) but if the 3 previous spins were all black, I’d always bet red on the next one due to probability or law of averages, why would that be wrong thinking?

    • @TheoSakoutis
      @TheoSakoutis 2 роки тому +3

      One of the problems with your system is that you don't have enough information to determine the probability of the next spin. For example, 70 of the last 100 spins may have landed red. In that case, the law of averages dictates that the wheel should work diligently towards a correction which will favor more black results for a while. Another problem is that regardless of the statistical probability of the next spin, trends do occur, and they disobey all laws. Having said that, I often use this exact same bet selection method. Sometimes I like to bet with the probability of correction, and sometimes I bet with the trend. I've had success with both.

    • @Lion-dq9uj
      @Lion-dq9uj 2 роки тому

      Follow the winner hoping for a strike

    • @matthewedwards9423
      @matthewedwards9423 7 місяців тому

      There is a fundamental misunderstanding of probability right here. After you've seen 3 black, there's no way you can know if you're on a run of 4 blacks in a row, or 3 blacks then a red, because the probability of either of these events is exactly the same. You can bet the 4th spin on red after 3 blacks if you like, but you won't win or lose any more on average compared to if you'd bet that 4th spin on another black.

  • @devjono
    @devjono 5 років тому +1

    And the human element. The fact that we set our selves into a routine. Apply the same force to the wheel and develop our own trends aside from the wheel bias.

  • @johnhogan5766
    @johnhogan5766 4 роки тому +3

    I don’t think you understand how independence works

  • @PetStuBa
    @PetStuBa 5 років тому +3

    I totally agree with you !!
    suppose you have two person
    person A has been sitting at the table for 5 spins ... and wants to play spin 6
    person B .. has NO clue what happened before and jumps in with spin 6
    there has been 5 blacks so far
    for person B the chance (without zero, to keep things simple) it will be red = 0,5 or 50%
    for person A it's 0,015625
    BUT !!!!
    not for one time playing 6 spins
    theoretical chances do NOT exist .. only by repeating over and over and over an event , we practically get chances
    so 0,015625 is a chance AT THE LONG TERM !!! NOT short term
    6 blacks once started with 1 black, then became a 2 streak, a 3 , 4 , 5 and finally a 6
    so within this 6 streak , there is a 1 streak
    so it's impossible indeed that long streaks have the exact same chance as short streaks, because a PART of the streak
    they have in common .. but they still differ .. so they have different chances
    there is truth in the words that things are due
    the only problem is .. it only counts at the long run ..
    I like your videos
    very nice !!
    Maybe it's not me who invented this, but I came up with the idea that the table needs to become the gambler.
    So you turn things upside down.
    Instead of following the table.. you CHASE the table, so you're always one step behind...
    you're stuck in the table reality.. a LOT of people play like this
    if you write down IN ADVANCE, before you go play things like
    pure randomly 100 times 2 numbers and say it will not these two numbers
    or write down in advance 150 times in a row which double street it won't be
    etc etc
    so for instance if I have 100 times pure randomly 2 numbers in my head and you need to try to guess them, it's even possible if we do this 100 times, you didn't guess them even one time out of 100
    it will be hard for you, very hard ;.. same for the roulette table
    the roulette table became the gambler
    it now need to follow YOUR reality , they are now one step behind, they need chase you
    you have written down a huge long list of imaginary spin results and play against those ..
    in my stats, these results were incredibly much better than following and chasing the table

    • @RouletteMan
      @RouletteMan  5 років тому +2

      Thank you - I wish we had more great comment like this.
      I also like your videos very much!

    • @ElectronicSkateboard
      @ElectronicSkateboard 5 років тому +1

      No clue what incoherent nonsense is attempting to convey. Little punctuation matters.

    • @cava-ft2vi
      @cava-ft2vi 5 років тому

      It makes sense.. I did try before.. But some how ull eventually get cought.. And becouse u play in an opposite way.. With an ultra negative payout.. One time u lose, will retake back all you winnings.. And here we go.. Back to square

  • @matthewedwards9423
    @matthewedwards9423 7 місяців тому

    The probability of BBBR is precisely the same as BBBB. That is all you need to know.

  • @DolphLongedgreens
    @DolphLongedgreens 5 років тому

    I accept the philosophical premises of a determinism and the fallibility of man. There is a limit to how many spins a human can observe. Similarly, there is a limit to the accuracy of our statistics. Statistics are approximations at best and conclusions drawn from them are subject to error.
    This line of reasoning can result in magical thinking when taken to presumptuous lengths. Remember that the roulette table is ultimately operated and constructed by a human. Statistics will show that some tables are more likely to show certain numbers. This can be a result of imperfections in the construction of the table or the balance/configuration of the table. Additionally, every roulette operator has his own unique characteristics which can result in a bias towards certain numbers.
    Even in abstract terms the table is not random and with enough observations a bias can be observed. Furthermore, randomness is a mathematical convenience we use to paper over our human limitations. Events are ultimately deterministic, but as mere humans we lack the capacity to understand all of the underlying variables.
    It is a fine line of definition, but overstepping this bound results in illogical conclusions.

  • @marcusgunn5603
    @marcusgunn5603 5 років тому +3

    Totally agreed with you. Finally hearing the truth of how roulette works thanks!

    • @RouletteMan
      @RouletteMan  5 років тому

      Thank you. We encourage everyone to share their thoughts on our videos.

    • @kevinwilson3337
      @kevinwilson3337 3 роки тому

      @@RouletteMan this stuff is also true for over/under bets and point spread bets . Their all games of chance.

  • @Lion-dq9uj
    @Lion-dq9uj 2 роки тому

    SO HOW SHOULD I BET ?

  • @chrisfullard5580
    @chrisfullard5580 5 років тому +1

    The results are not so independent on most online sites. The many directions & times I've seen the ball move is absolutly unbelievable & having played for as long as I have there's no one on Gods Earth that can convince me that there arent magnets involved. I'm amazed "or am I really #on the payroll" that the gaming committee hasn't intervened as there's just way too much money involved with this corrupt deception of the public. 🤔

    • @marvinratchford7913
      @marvinratchford7913 Рік тому

      Possibilities in roulette: 38 numbers is 38 factorial. Approximately 523 million, trillion, trillion, trillion. Lets say you COULD take the time to look at all those possibilities --- there would be a MATCH for EVERY SINGLE GAME no matter how unbelievable!

  • @misterreyth8805
    @misterreyth8805 5 років тому +2

    Brilliant! This is the first source I have ever come across that tells the truth of how roulette actually works! Roulette can be beaten because it is NOT truly random; i.e. roulette must produce results that are equally probable at all times. Some people like to assert that roulette results are chaotic but then they contradict themselves when they agree with the law of large numbers!

    • @RouletteMan
      @RouletteMan  5 років тому

      We will make a video specifically for the the Law of Third very soon!

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 5 років тому +2

      Its not the GAME itself that defeats over 99% of people who play it. Its the lack of these 4 main things.
      PATIENCE
      DISCIPLINE
      A SOLID STRATEGY
      A STRONG FIGHTING FUND TO RIDE THE LOWS.
      The casinos love nothing better than naive $20 dreamers. Thats how they get rich and stay open.
      The few like me who know better. Beat this game all the time and make a living from it.
      While all the myths are perpetuated by the foolish majority.

    • @jbtalk5529
      @jbtalk5529 5 років тому

      @@fender1000100 Do you speak about landbased casinos or about the rigged online tables? How do you make your money?

    • @anthonyreed480
      @anthonyreed480 5 років тому

      @@jbtalk5529 He won't say because it's not true lol

    • @Learner5555
      @Learner5555 5 років тому

      PROJECT DX completely agreed, but jens maybe not all the online casinos are rigged? My friend made more than 10 k in betfair n cashed out betting hot numbers....but afterwards he suspected them

  • @Gibbiceps2008
    @Gibbiceps2008 5 років тому +1

    A fantastic video! Thank you.

  • @philipyong6584
    @philipyong6584 5 років тому +1

    How many people got lost at this video after the 1st minute?. Looks like attending a class in statistics.

  • @nathan87
    @nathan87 5 років тому +1

    "If a number has an expectation it ceases to be independent"
    "anything that is truly independent does not conform [to its probabilities]"
    "what they say is that number conform in large groups but not in small groups - another contradiction"
    I'm really sorry, but all of these only demonstrate a flawed understanding of the most elementary statistics. Maybe it hurts to be told that many thousands of hours thinking about gambling strategies doesn't make you an expert, but that's the way it is. Sorry. Mathematicians *are* the experts. Roulette can't be beaten.

    • @Learner5555
      @Learner5555 4 роки тому

      They dont conform in the short term but over the long term over tens of thousands spin they conform.

    • @matthewedwards9423
      @matthewedwards9423 7 місяців тому

      Live roulette can totally be beaten, in theory. Roulette isn't totally random. Even if we assume a perfect roulette table with no bias (perfect probability distribution over infinite time), you can bet after the dealer has released the ball. At this point, the outcome is determined, it's just no human brain is capable of performing the mental gymnastics required to accurately determine where the ball will land. But a computer could. And some have been designed that at least do a good enough job to turn the house edge into a player edge. Look into "sector targeting".

  • @andrejtajhman3054
    @andrejtajhman3054 3 роки тому

    roulette is all abaut electronics
    whay you donnt talk abaut this