Lore of Middle-earth: Aragorn
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Today's topic: Aragorn II; Chieftain of the Dúnedain
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Arachir, I have to correct you to a point. You said that Gandalf did not interrogate Gollum. However, in the book (Elrond's council), Gandaf gives a detailed report of his actions. He was in Gondor, when he heard that Aragorn captured the Gollum. After reading the papyrus of Isildur, he went to Thranduil's realm and he interrogated Gollum. A full report of his actions is in the second chapter of LotR, when he tells Frodo about the ring and how he discovered that the ring is the One Ring. You can see the book if you want, Shadows of the Past and Elrond's Council are the titles.
Curses! Thank you good sir. :) If I had just stuck to the Aragorn aspect I would have been fine haha. :)
Wow you must be really smart, how do you know all this information?
Yeah I think I remember that Gandalf said that he had to use the fear of fire on Gollum to gain some information
@@dadagan8815 So he got tortured by both sides. I don't blame him for being a loner.
Spot on. Absolute truth- Gandalf questions Smeagol/Gollum
The original Numenorean kings lived for about 400 years. Elros was an exception, who lived to be exactly 500 years.
As soon as they were "turning bad", their lifespan went down to 200-250, (while the Lords of Andunie hardly waned at all. They were still 350-400)
A new lore video? Truly the Valar have smiled upon us!
The reference to Aragorn "exploring the hearts of men" in the East and South has always intrigued me. It seems like Tolkein left some intentional hints that, while the men of the East and South are almost invariably seen in the main story as the enemies of Gondor or Rohan, they are not inherently or uniformly evil. The other passage along those lines is Sam's reaction to seeing the Haradrim soldier killed in Faramir's ambush, "He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil at heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would not really rather have stayed there in peace."
It makes you wonder if Aragorn might have been doing something along the lines of what the Blue Wizards are hinted as doing (perhaps even working directly with them), which you've brought into the game with the Blue Wizards script for Khand. At the very least, it seems like Aragorn came to understand some of the motivations of the Easterlings and Southrons, perhaps discovering that their wars against Gondor and its allies stemmed at least partially from coercion rather than purely evil intent or appetite for destruction (as would be the case with orcs). This would be consistent with his actions toward them after being crowned; Aragorn pardons those that surrendered, makes peace, and gives the former slaves of Mordor their own lands. While it is mentioned that Aragorn has to fight more wars in the East and South during his reign, he clearly does not see the peoples of those lands as purely evil.
I've never had the opportunity to find any writings as to the deeds of Aragorn, King Elessar after his crowning. Where and what is the name of the book that has that info?
BTW, an important fact that wasn't mentioned (unless I'm mistaken) is that Aragorn didn't just die, he gave his life away freely, as the old kings of Numenor, so as to not be greedy and tarry in this world beyond their years, but to accept the gift of man, death (that men had grown to fear, because of Sauron).
Pixelated Brush I thought I was the only one who knew.
They didn't grow to fear death because of Sauron, it was because of Morgoth. Sauron only took advantage of the fear of death that Morgoth put in man to get of Numenor to invade Valinor.
You got that right. It's in the books and (maybe) in the movies.
I thought that I read Gollum escaped from the elves because they allowed him the opportunity to get fresh air and he climbed to the tops of the Mirkwood forest trees, and at that time, Orcs attacked the elves. Coincidence, I think not!! Even Tolkien mentioned that possibly Gollum had been able to secretly contact the Orcs and enlist their aid.
Am I imagining this or mixing up other story plot lines?
Brian Garrow No, you are quite right.
You're correct; Legolas tells the full story to the Council of Elrond. He does also voice the strong suspicion that Gollum had somehow been in contact with the Orcs, and that the attack by the Orcs had been made for the express purpose of freeing him.
I apologize for the inconvenience but in the books is there any reference on what happened to the Ent females?
Noah I believe they wandered away from the Ents in search of new lands. My memory isn't the best, but I think they were supposed to have wandered East of Fanghorn into the Brown Lands. Supposedly the Ents were hoping after the crowning of the king, Elessar, that the resulting peace would allow them to search in the lands of the East that had been closed off to them during the reign of Sauron.
Brian Garrow thanks ! I m Just starting to read the books so i hope i can find some more information .
That point about Boromir having met Aragorn early in his life. To see him grow up and become the new beacon of Gondor. To become so mighty of a man. For Aragorn to witness his death in his arms years later really sticks on into the heart. I still feel the tears at that moment today. Lurtz really pissed off the wrong king.
Zurpsy true, but Lurtz fits quite well into the story actually. he blends in very well it is easy to believe Tolkien created him in his books.
Same im just now getting into the books after years of reading lore stuff on the "wikis" and watching lore videos etc and that one hit home pretty hard
I always get misty thinking of the joy boromir would have had to see the days of the king to see his kingdom reunited and fully restored. He would've been so proud to serve under the true king. They would've been lifelong friends brothers even
You are talking about the movie. There is no "Lurtz" in the LotR. And Boromir never said anything close to what the movie showed him saying. He never gave any respect to Aragorn in any way as Tolkien made his character. Boromir was just like his father, an arrogant ass. Faramir, by contrast is very like Aragorn, a warrior both wise and bold. If you have read the books you know that all Boromir does and say`s in following Aragorn is disagree and argue with every move he makes. And he has no respect for Galadriel and Celeborn. Galadriel was born before the sun and moon as one of the first Elves ever born. She went to Valinor, and came back with the Flight of the Noldor, in the host of Fingolfin. She is 5000 years old and b y far the most powerful Elf in all of Arda, older than Elrond even. If you just happen to like Boromir, cool, many do and that is what makes us all different, and we are all the better for that! I just wanted to let you know that the movie made Boromir a different person, unlike Tolkien`s Boromir. Not evil, just very willful and flawed, and Aragorn is very patient with him, even when he is calling Galadriel names, but the second she looks at him in the eye, she sees right thru him, and knows he will try to take the Ring. Aragorn tries to teach him, but he will not listen. Sorry for the long winded crap, I just started free thinking as I was typing, and thought of what Jackson did with the films. I think he did a great job, great cast, great visuals, but some wacky shit as well. That is no easy job, making the books into movies!! I enjoyed them for the most part.
Aragorn is a 10-year-old child in Rivendell when the party of Bilbo and the Dwarves arrive there in 2941. That would be an interesting scene to see. Perhaps Gandalf and Aragon first met at that time, instead of when Aragorn was around 20? Even if Elrond is still hiding Aragorn's identity from Gandalf?
I imagine they almost certainly would meet but I doubt Gandalf would impart much upon the 10 year old Aragorn. Merely introduce himself I suppose. :)
A bit off topic, but I’m a bit confused. Aragorn is said to have been about 10 years old at the time of the hobbit but the hobbit took place 60 years prior to lotr. Aragorn was 87 during lotr. The math doesn’t add up to me. Unless I’m mistaken?
Aragorn is born in 2931, Bilbo sets out from Imladris in April of 2941. 10 years later. The events of the hobbit take place 78 years before the War of the Ring. :)
Arachîr Galudirithon thank you! I completely forgot there was a 17 year period after bilbos party before things really started. The movie lore threw me off a bit.
I'm a simple man. I see a Galu video, I like it.
You're surprised one sneaky weasel escaped from the same prison that couldn't hold thirteen chubby dwarves?
Yeah, the "Halls of the Woodland Realm" are kinda crap.
@@josephmort4039 I thought Gollum got away because they'd let him climb into a tree for a few hours every day, and after a few months they were suddenly ambushed by orcs who took Gollum away.
Don't forget one Bur-a-hobbit.
Im not the elves learned how to imprision people from the Valar. Have you seen an instance in any of the legendarium where a prisoner didnt eventually escape from Valar or Elves?
Twas not only the hand of Bilbo that pity stayed.
Great video. You never disappoint Arachir. Looking forward to more later.
A grand Gondorian army would've looked so much cooler then the army of the dead
Army of Gondorian in books
Army of the dead in movies
I prefer the movies itself
IskandarProd Dunno... apparently the army was from Lamedon. Which is basically Scotland... but... Gondorian...
Hm. I wonder what Aragorn would look like with a kilt? XD
OblivionPlayz Ruler of OblivionHall & OBH deus ex machina is not a good thing.
wasn't there also swan knights of Dol Amroth?
@@matthiuskoenig3378 the army of dol amroth was already at minas tirith. They sent the most troops before the battle. The reinforcements from the ships were mostly from pelagir
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Thank you very much sir. Your comment is very uplifting. :-) I am glad you find them enjoyable.
Arachîr Galudirithon 🙂👍🏻
I only watch your Lore of Middle Earth videos so I'm excited to see this. :)
The Grey company is the number one thing i wish the movies had included, almost tied with Faramir and Eowyns story.
I cannot say how excited I am that you made another lore video. I listen to your other videos all the time, over and over. You are so awesome to listen to and your knowledge is impressive.
You have no idea how happy I got when I seen you uploaded another lore video! Your lore videos have always been my absolute favorite. Thank you for this it really made my day!
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I absolutely love your lore videos. These help color in the world of middle earth in ways I haven’t been able to pick up on by just reading Tolkien. Thank you for the wonderful descriptions and continuity in your videos.
I can't thank you enough for doing more lore video's. I'm a huge fan!! These video's are awesome
I've missed this sort of content.
Though via your playthroughs I have gained a fondness for RTS's that I never really had before.
I’ve missed them
'The Hunt for Gollum' is absolutely brilliant - I'd recommend it very highly. It can be watched on UA-cam.
I very much enjoyed the Battle of Hastings reference.
The only person who understood it so far!
2:30 am gets notified "who needs sleep"
@Arachir Galudirithon You are mistaken in your video when you day that Arwin was buried with Aragorn .... In one of the Appendices in the last book Return of the king .... it is said that after he died, she left and went to Lothlorien, where none now dwelt and laid herself down on the hill where she and Aragorn were betrothed
1. Gollum was interrogated by Gandalf. It was stated in Fellowship.
2. Gandalf was a Steward of Gondor.
3. This is an awesome video as always! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Wow, a new lore video from the best series of middle earth lore videos on you tube. Thank you
Really looking forward to more Lore videos, great work and keep it up!
I have been waiting so long for a lore video thank you Galu
The tv series should feature aragorn in a similar role as the Witcher in the recent series, being a reserved badass with other characters rotating in and out and taking center stage. Different seasons could take place in different parts of his life, like in eriador/rivendell, then rohan, then gondor, then the umbar raid etc. I think it would be best to have aragorn be a static, stoic character like Judge Dredd in the 2012 movie, whereas other new characters can be more dynamic like Judge Anderson in the same film. Since we already know and love Aragorn they should not do too much with his character like give him additional romantic drama (Arwen being his one and only obviously), also they shouldn't give him too many changes of heart like giving up hope and obviously he can't die. Hence the need to make other characters the dramatic focus.
Interesting independent online movie "Born of Hope" tells the story of Aragorn's parents. Well done for a low budget indie flick. It's free and on UA-cam. Also one on Aragorn's search for Gollum, "The Hunt For Gollum." Not as good as Born of Hope but not bad. Also free online all over.
That is cool to think the fellowship for the most part all died with eachother with aragorn merry and pippin in gondor and frodo Sam gimli in valinor with legolas and gandalf carrying on there. I always wonder if sailing to valinor does that mean that they met the actual valar themselves. I also wonder if getting the ring to valinor could've also been an option. I'd assume that it wouldn't sway the valar as well as Aules mastery of craft could destroy it.
Wow this was long in the making...I thought you’d quit. Glad to see you back to making these.
As an aside if Aragorn was 88 at the time of the war of the ring, and he lived to be 210, and the average lifespan of a normal man of out time is 80, then Aragorn would have been in appearance of someone in around their 30th birthday. Asuming that Aragorn could have lived 30 more years but in declining health, he gave up life when he sensed the first sign of old age. He would have been in his prime during the war of the ring despite prior Dunedaine not being as vigorous at that age. But perhaps maybe Aragorn was granted the extra years and health by the Valar only after the war of the ring, I cant remember how his age and appearance was described.
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LORE VIDEO!!!!!!
Gandalf does indeed question Gollum...to the point it wearied him. He tells Frodo this. And he escapes Mirkwood because the elves let him climb trees under supervision and are waylaid by orcs.
I’m so proud of myself for understanding the Harold Godwinson reference
My favorite are the lore videos. Waiting for a couple faction overviews though.. *cough cough.. isengard and ar adunaim * cough cough.
SO HAPPY for more lore videos from you! I love them! As an aside, I hate that version of the Ring of Barahir... it doesn't match the description given by Tolkien. I think the ring should basically be the signet ring of Finarfin. What do you think?
More of these!
THANK YOU!!! Where's the Patreon page? I will pay you for more videos like this!!
I would chip in for more videos
i loved this one
I love the classic hero's Journey
oh man, you're back! Gigantic fan of these! So stoked!
I've been waithing for another lore video for so long, thanks man!!!
Would love to see this upon Castbox or Podbean, I know of a few youtubers who upload their audio mix to those apps, a great way to turn it into a podcast.
Yes!! Worried you stopped making these. Keep em coming dude.
Love it.
Also wanted to ask how you feel about the upcoming serie?
So glad these are finally back!
Good job sir!
Been waiting for one of these videos for ages !!! Thanks man. ;)
I just love these videos
Yes! Lore videos are great!
I love your lore videos! :)
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What a great video. Thank you!
28:00 Parth Galen
Parth Galen! Thank you. :( Repeatedly I am reminded why I should record these videos once then re-record it with the missing info. :P
Not a big deal at all! Your vids have a great flow to them. I can't imagine how much work you put into collecting all that info.
Looking forward to this serie!
6:49 just imagine for a minute Viggo Mortenson prancing through the woods like a little school girl and singing through the woods, I can see why he only went to the Prancing Pony now
Sir, for the life of me I cannot understand your name however that is not the reason for this writing.. I would like to thank you for your breakdown of the legedarium of JRR Tolkiens writings. I've been greedily absorbing everything regarding his masterpiece (s) and you've managed to put it all into order for me..Thank you.
PS I've been to Leicester, England twice for my Mum is from your island🤓
The series WILL NOT follow Aragorn. It is going to be taking place during the second age, long long before Aragorn was born.
Arachîr Galudirithon could not have known that at the time the video came out but i thought the correction should be stated.
The fruit of the white tree is rare and bloom even more rarely, Gandalf told aragorn to always preserve any fruits from the tree in case.
Hannon le mellon nin! Awaiting your lore videos from a long time
You do a very good job
Yessssssssss, a lore one!!!!
Fantastic video, so very entertaining!!
Thank you very much. :)
Arwen's grave was never marked She went to Lothlorien and there lay in the grass and passed.
Elrond changes Aragorns name to protect the royal line. Aragorn at 80 still not married because Elrond wont give permission, I think Elrond didn't care that much as Aragorn is the last. Can't imagine he knew that Aragorn wouldn't marry someone else and that the war of the ring would happen.
Made my night!!
Galu, you rule! Don’t ever change!
1 30 am... thanks man
Ive waited so long for the next lore video
Have to recommend the fan made movie, really well done.
Cool video bro thanks for making it
makes me want to play some skyrim
love the long lore videos. What about one like this about Legolas?
YES DUDE!!!!!!!!!
The different names attributed to Aragorn have to do with his stages in life. As last remaining descendant of the line of Anarion, son of Elendil, Estel (Hope) was the name given to him by his mother in Rivendel after his fathers death, since he then becomes the only one capable of claiming Gondors throne. Elessar, is the name he will bear, once he proves to earn the title of King, and is accompanied by the giving of a blue gem stone with the same name from the hands of Elrond (as it is a family heirloom), when he marries Arwen Undomiel after the last battle of the Third Age, confirming his kingship.
The Elessar was actually green and was given to Aragorn by Galadriel, in Arwen’s name, when the Company passed trough Lothlórien, therefore before Aragorn became King.
The Dunedain never lived past the age of 240 perhaps one or two may have lived past that age but the maximum age was 240 for the vast majority and well the Dunedain of the Northern territories of Gondor had declined in their life expectancy the Dunedain of the South such as in Dol Amroth had not declined to such a degree but even purer was the rangers the Dunedain of the North who still lived just as long as the Numenorians of old. It’s easily forgotten that Gondor had a civil war that diluted the Numenorian blood lines in Mina’s Tirith, Mina’s Ithill and Osgiliath as the Northmen would the settle in those lands and interbreed. But the southern coastal territories remained largely untouched. The Dunedain of Arnor had a civil war between themselves and held a contempt for most the other Human races in that region such as the Rhudar who betrayed them and the Northmen who fought for Angmar so the likely good of interbreeding is significantly lower which kept the Numenorian blood pure hence why you have a Dunedain like Aragorn who was so true of Numenorian blood he did live the full life span of a Dunedain.
These videos are really cool lore. Could you make a playlist of them?
There is a playlist of them. Where did you look for it?
I very breifly thought you said Bilbo called Aragorn "The Dunedad" and I was jumping with glee.
Ironic how the fellowship story is portrayed significantly more accurately in Lotro than in the movies.. xD
Lotro is the bomb
Loved the video but would have appreciated if you included when he met and the relationship he had with Legolas and didn’t he fight wars in the south after the war of the ring
Tough they might have met before, I think Aragorn and Legolas only became friends while traveling with the Fellowship, no?
Just awesome!
Love this videos!!!
Great video! Which book(s) did you get all this information from? I would like to read them for myself! So far I've read The Hobbit, LOTR, Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, but don't remember them going that in depth with Aragorn. Thanks!
Unfinished tales has a story dedicated to Aragorn and Arwen and tells us most of the info in this video. :)
I'll have to go back and re-read that then I must have glossed over it on accident. Thank you!
Dear arachir just a correction we do know about his Kingship and the reunited kingdom which encompassed untill the sea of Rhun and i believe in the new shadow it is written about how the governor of mordor rebels against his son Eldarion and that even gandalf returns to council him and the fact that after elrond and his sons pass to valinor he also becomes the king of the Noldor in exile hence the high king of the elves
Just a suggestion:maybe when you cover Legolas you should cover Gimli as well in the same video,as their endings are intertwined with each other,as least according to the books?
Yeah I had planned to do both together because we have very little info on either of them. Much of our information on the Hobbits, Legolas, Gimli and Boromir is all about the War of the Ring so there might not be that much 'unknown' information. :)
Thanks for the lore video
Thanks for this. Great insights brought out with comparisons of ages and the chronologies of characters. I note a few corrections in the comments, but was additionally disappointed, although it is not directly relevant to Aragorn, that you did not mention that one major difference from the films of Saruman not dying, but being cast out from Isengard and coming to The Shire to wreak some further havoc on the halflings who seem to have been the most instrumental in bringing down the Chief of the Istari. This, as you'd know, is covered in the later chapter, The Scoring of The Shire, one of my favourite chapters. It is interesting as some Hobbits come to serve the new regime both Wormtongue and Saruman establish, rather like Vichy France.
I just thought it was a such an important divergence from the films as the Hobbits and what happens to them is the central importance as they are the lens through which we perceive all lore. Ellessar then, most assuredly, knew that Hobbits could look after themselves after dealing with such an internal coup of their political and social structures although they may have had self-rule granted them, although they had that for much of the period already since the Arnorian petty kingdoms had been destroyed. This was likely just a legally binding necessity in the new landscape of his direct rule and firmer grasp on his various realms.
I completely forgot about his journeys into the far east and south.
Oh, thanks for the heads-up on the fan made video of Aragorns's travels. I never heard of it. Fan-made...*grits teeth
That is completely unrelated to Aragorn though and is covered in the Istari video. I suppose it might be worth while doing a full video on Movie V Book. :)
I'm missing your lore Videos so much :'(
I haven't stopped doing them. First Monday of every month.
All 3 novels hint at Eru Illuvatar subtly influencing events to help the free peoples of Middle Earth. That being said, is Gollum escaping from Thranduil's prisons THAT hard to believe considering his destiny? Hell, you said it yourself. Gollum escaping is Legolas reason for even being in the story.
How could you not have seen the fan movie of Aragorn hunting Gollum? It's short and rather good. Again, how could you not have see this very short and very good little film. It's free for fuks sakes...
*A LORE VIDEO*
4:23 I can only imagine what SIN you refer to
Legolas actually says 8n the book that they would let Gollum out to climb trees and he'd have guards with him but one day orcs attacked while this happened and by the time the elves killed the orcs Gollum was gone
The seed of the white tree can survive for a very long time, resting in a place for thousands of years before spreading roots. Gandalf explains
@Arachîr Galudirithon did you know that Tolkien predicted Sean Bean dying in the movie...
I thought it was confirmed that Aragorn traveled through Moria before the Fellowship went there, during his search for Gollum...
Can u talk more about the last king of Gondor and the witch kings challenge
Gandalf next please 😃 The storyline of gandalf would be so interesting.
I will probably do Gandalf last as he is already covered fairly extensively in the Istari video. :)
Arachîr Galudirithon Sad news for me then, but your voice is like the perfect storyteller voice, every time i watch your videos i imagine that im like sitting next to a campfire and you are telling an epic tale, like bilbo to frodo or sth like that. Big thanks for taking on the UA-cam hobby!!!