A lot of you have been asking me to cover Rebels. I already have a rebels retrospective video! ua-cam.com/video/dLN_kJjQJwM/v-deo.htmlsi=ACXXS5a_w1Sqbi-1
@@thegoldman25They should take each arc and release them as Disney + original films. It would give them a higher budget and wouldn't confuse people as much as a "season 8"
@@megalodon2k2 also clone wars is an antology series so they can release the episodes out of order and no one would give a sh**. Theres literally an entire arc released here on youtube.
@@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly Most of the episodes that were out of order don't really raise questions but releasing 40 episodes after the "final season" would make some less experienced fans ask questions.
In season 2 of Bad Batch, Tarkin tells his fellow Imperials that the clones grew far too individualistic and free-thinking under Jedi leadership and therefore they must be phased out of the Imperial military. He sees this as a problem but really he laid out the reason that we've come to love the clones over the years.
I’m actually glad that the Lucasfilm’s interest in Star Wars The Clone Wars was revived in 2020 during the Pandemic. Especially when Disney+ launched in several countries like Europe during the pandemic.
I honestly feel the same way about the inhibitor chips. Rather than having the clones be cold, ruthlessly efficient soldiers in every waking moment of their lives, it's way more impactful to spend an entire TV series making them human, only to cap it off with the biggest of big bads forcibly ripping that humanity away from them.
One thing brought up in the inhibitor chip arc that’s arguably one of the saddest elements of Star Wars is the repeated line of “the mission, the nightmares, they’re finally over…” the implication that the Clones had nightmares about Order 66 (and I’m pretty sure it was established that they didn’t even know what the nightmares meant) will forever make me stop dead in my tracks and my heart sink to my stomach 💔 At least, assuming the extent to which that’s canon of course
The fives arc hit me so hard when I was a kid, Sometimes I still can't bring myself to watch it because I love fives. And the series did a great job making me truly feel as if I had actually lost someone when he died on screen.
The Sith shrine under the Jedi Temple did make its way into canon later in the Tarkin novel and has since popped in various books and comics. Most recently it's actually been quite key in the High Republic books. We also see a Sith shrine under the Jedi Temple that the Collosus crew stumbled upon in the Resistance show indicating how this "purification" was something the Jedi did often.
19:12 Maul formed the Shadow Collective during season 5, that’s the alliance between Maul and Savage, the Crime Syndicates and Death Watch. The Shadow Collective is actually dismantled by the end of Son of Dathomir and after that he starts Crimson Dawn as his own Crime Syndicate.
My Top 10 TCW arc‘s in order from 1-10: - Siege of Mandalore - Ahsoka framed - Fives conspiracy - Maul conquers Mandalore - Battle of Umbara - Maul‘s ressurection - Yoda‘s journey - the citadel - Obi-Wan undercover - Onderon rebels Honorable mentions to all the nightsisters arcs I just couldn’t squeeze them in there
@@PascimanArc23 oh that I didn't know. I only remember watching These Episodes not knowing that it is the end. I also remember that I actualy liked the Story with JarJar and Mace and crying when fives died.
I remember finding the chip arc on the internet before the season released and it was in german with no subtitles so I just tried to figure out the story by what was happening
A lore reason I defend the inhibitor chips is this: Since having clones kill jedi was Palpatine's endgame for the war, he would not want to risk any clones somehow defying their programming. Multiple stories have characters that were brainwashed at birth, only to break free. Take Finn, for example. Lastly, Palpatine wore a black robe and was physically scarred when he gave the order. He told everyone about his scars after giving the order. The clones would've assumed it was an imposter calling them.
3:56 this is precisely why we don’t see more shows like this. Becoming a Billionaire like George is not easy to do. And to do it without sacrificing your morals and your character is something that takes an extreme amount of luck. Billionaires rarely have the heart to be passionate about this kind of story telling, and those who do/did probably don’t have the time anymore. It takes someone really special to do what George did. He made and told a story (the original trilogy) and became rich off of it. But instead of milking it for all it was worth right off the bat, he took a break. It gave him time to think “what other stories can I tell?”. And then he took all of that money he made before, and funded them himself. He seemingly didn’t care if it made or lost him money, he just wanted to tell stories. And I think that’s awesome.
Recently on UA-cam a massive influx of Expanded Universe nerds have proclaimed their distaste of Clone Wars 2008 for pissing all over the pre established canon at the time, and one of the major criticisms of the show these nutcases have are about the Inhibitor Chip Arc, because they somehow think that the clones being ruthlessly cold and mindlessly following orders is more badass than what Clone Wars 2008 did with the clones, and that the chips were an easy way out. I genuinely don't know how someone with their mental faculties in order can utter an opinion like that, but these EU nerds think like that.
@@MarceloZ2 The same people who vouch 03 under rule of cool right? Yeah these guys remind me of what the standard critic thinks the Sequel Trilogy fan act like, stubborn about their content being superior to anything else in the fanbase and refuse any criticism whatsoever even if they argued the same thing for Disney content.
@@MarceloZ2 clones cold following orders isn't more badass, but that's what they were intended to be. Clones were engineered and bred so they would do the things they need to out of their loyalty. 10 years of training and stuff.
@mrzirak792 I know, and this is true to the clones as portrayed in the 2008 show as well as the Clone Wars Multimedia Project in the EU. The difference is that the 2008 show developed the clones and they eventually were more than mindless drones cold following orders, and in the CWMP, they never became more than that, and the argument the EU nerds make about the CWMP clones being better involves them thinking the CWMP clones were more badass because they were like that, that's why I mentioned it. I disagree wholeheartedly with the EU nerds, I'll take the Clone Wars 2008 clones over the CWMP clones any day of the week in a heartbeat.
Ahsoka also figured out Anakin and Padme were together, not just Clovis. "I understand. More than you realize, I understand wanting to walk away from the Order." "I know." And Obi-Wan also knew, but he never thought it was that serious. He thought that, like in his case with Satine, Anakin would just get over it. He never thought it went as far as secret marriage and breaking all the oaths.
That’s right, after just 6 months after buying Star Wars, Disney proved they had no idea what they were doing by “winding down” this masterpiece 3 seasons early.
Like Gold Man’s video said, Lucasfilm didn’t have a choice. The Clone Wars was still airing on Cartoon Network (which is owned by Warner Bros, a direct rival to Disney). And because of the distribution contracts with Cartoon Network, they couldn’t air The Clone Wars on Disney Channel or Disney XD. Not to mention that the show was getting more darker than the executives wanted it to be. This isn’t even a Disney issue; even Cartoon Network didn’t like how dark the show was getting. These are still networks targeted for kids. Which is why when Lucasfilm began production on Rebels for Disney XD, they aimed for a more lighter tone compared to The Clone Wars. Nowadays, Disney doesn’t really have an issue with dark and mature content. But, back then, it was an issue. And not even just for Disney, but WB/CN too.
@@keyshawnwatkins4362I take it Disney was ok with dark & gritty cartoons after Gravity Falls made them realized they can put horror elements in their shows just as they do in their movies. If Gravity Falls had aired around the time Disney bought Lucasfilm, they would’ve been ok with Clone Wars being mature & dark.
my eyes popped when you said yuuzhan vong that is something I never expected to hear in relation to clone wars as someone who recently got further into the expanded universe and finds it pretty interesting
The Bad Batch has an episode where the team goes to Kashyyyk and help the Wookiee fight Trandoshians. From the reels we’ve seen, they clearly took a bunch of ideas from that arc. Especially the creature designs.
I might have another interesting piece of trivia about the unfinished Arcs aka, the original seasons 6,7, and 8! The Cad Bane and Boba Fett team up arc would’ve been in season 6 right after Yoda’s journey. It would’ve then be followed by Cristal Crisis on Utapau, and Ahsoka’s walkabout would’ve been the season 6 finale Bad Batch would’ve opened the original season 7 followed by the first 4 episodes of Dark Disciple, then we would’ve saw Bad Batch and Yoda on Kashyyyk followed by Son of Dathomire and then the Sith Shrine acre would’ve been the finale of season 7 Season 8 would’ve opened with the last 4 episodes of Dark Disciple followed by the 4 episode Rex and R2 storyline. The next 4 episodes would’ve focused on the Yusang Vong alien abduction arc followed by Padme’s return to Mon Cala. Season 8 would’ve ended with Seige of Mandalore
Something to also remember is that basically everything star wars related that was in production during the disney buyout was canceled. Also one kf the biggest reasons rebels looked ao cheap early on was because they had to basically start from scratch with their assets/models while the later seasons of the clone wars had several years worth of assets to pull from. Thats why after an arc like the one with the togruta, you start to see a bunch of them in the backgrounds.
Cartoon Network contract theory makes no sense. If this were the case, they would not be able to air Season 6 on Netflix. So it's obvious that CN had the licensing contract for five seasons only. They could have easily continued the series on Netflix if they wanted to. But they didn't. So yeah, the likely reasons for the cancellation were money, not wanting to pay and work on something they did not create, and them wanting to get away from anything prequel related and cash in on the OT nostalgia prior to the release of The Force Awakens. They said as much: they wanted to focus on the OT content. Rebels was OT, Marvel comics were OT, the first Battlefront videogame was OT only, and so on and so forth. Terrible decision overall, and extremely disappointing to this very day, next to cancelling Star Wars: 1313 and shutting down Lucasarts and giving away the videogame licensing rights to EA. I find it hard to forgive and get over The Clone Wars' cancellation still.
Season 6 is highly underrated imo. The fives arc is amazing, Clovis arc is great, and the yoda arc is one of the best arcs in the show. I’m talking top 3 or 5. They really went out on a high note since they thought this would be the last season
Following arcs in seasons 7 and 8 would have been even better. These arcs were as good as they were, and they were always in S6. They didn't have to put any extra effort, because they were just that good. Clone Wars got better with each subsequent season, even though by the time of S3, it was already pretty damn good. So yeah, we were so robbed with Disney cancelling the show, and all those amazing arcs being lost forever.
I wanna chime in about the Anakin/Obi-Wan scene when they’re talking about Ahsoka’s decision to leave the Jedi Order… and ending it off with Anakin and Obi-Wan what were to happen if THEIR paths diverged. Eventually HELLO THERE on UA-cam - you know the guy who animated the Mustafar duel in Episode III TCW-styled - animated his version of that scene, and it frames Anakin by the end of Episode III as really being isolated as the war dragged on.
16:48 yea the part were they did something was offscreen supposely. They launched an investegation and they were almost figuring it out but then the corusant attack happened and we know what happened after that.
Always dropping when I'm looking for something to watch. I would love to see a similar series on Star Wars: Visions as there is a lot to cover episode to episode
Personally season 6 was always my second least favorite behind season 1. It’s not bad by any means, but it doesn’t hold up to season 3, 4, 5, or the final arch, at least to me.
In my opinion the inhibitor chip and the Clone arcs in this show is one the most Star Wars stories ever made, bc it reflects one big themes present in the franchise, about underdogs becoming something greater and better. A farm boy from a desert can become a great hero (Luke Skywalker), a evil sith lord can reveal himself to be a fallen hero capable of redemption (Darth Vader) and a group create to be soldier in a war can reveal themselves to be more human than many belive (the clones).
Boba's final arc absolutely needs to be adapted into something someday. Hell, they should've already done it before Book of Boba released because as is only hardcore fans know of Boba and Cad Bane's history that's alluded to in that show.
The unreleased episodes and their potential always breaks my heart. The son of dathomir comic is fantastic and I can only imagine how much better it would be been watching Maul do it instead. And even tho bad batch kinda killed the canon of it, Dark Disciple is a fantastic story and I don’t read a lot of novels, but it’s so good. Fives is really the only worthwhile part of this season for me, I wish so badly to see SOD or DD see the light of day someday, I could see Maul doing that in a Tales of the Sith maybe. Thank god for S7 so at least bad batch and Seige of mandalore got seen. Edit: didn’t know u were gonna talk abt them, you are the man Gold Man 🙌
21:33 apparently, it is. I wish they would adapt it as a miniseries or something cause, let's be, not many are interested in reading secondary material such as books.
The inhibitor chip arc needs no defending. It undeniably made the prequels (ROTS especially) better and that is half of the entire merit of Clone Wars as a series as well as just being a great show.
Will you discuss the micro series? And the clone wars multimedia project and discus how the timelines are different etc. Also fun fact the Clovis Arc was supposed to be in season 5 before they shifted to focus on Ahaoka more.
I will forever disagree with the EU nerds that the Clone Wars multimedia project was better than what Clone Wars 2008 brought to the Star Wars canon. The CWMP had some good stories, but Clone Wars 2008 brought even better stories with cooler solutions to events in ROTS and with way better characters. I really don't care that Clone Wars 2008 pissed all over the CWMP, it is better.
The Kashyyyk Arc was actually adapted in the Bad Batch! Season 2 Episode 6, “Tribe”! From my understanding it’s not a 1:1 adaptation but there’s a lot of elements they used from the unfinished arc into TBB episode. Tho I think Yoda was replaced by Gungi.
Regarding the inclusion of inhibitor chips in lore, I'm actually pretty indifferent to either option (i.e. either having the clones do it out of their free will or using the inhibitor chips to remove their individuality). I think either option has it's pros and cons but they add their own flavour to the tragedy that is Revenge of the Sith If they didn't include the inhibitor chips: there's no denying that they would need to do the work to justify why the clones would turn on the jedi, especially the padawans/younglings. But (at least for the jedi generals) I think there could've been an argument; Pong Krell. Especially within the 501st and 212th who we're the victims to Krell's plan on Umbara (not to mention the regiments he served beforehand) they could play with this idea with sections of clones growing more distrustful of the jedi; are there more jedi who are like Krell? do the jedi even value them as much as they say they do? I think it *could* work as another flavour of tragedy, that being it was the clones individuality and feelings that led to the Jedi's downfall. It was a double edged sword to put it short. What could also drive them towards the edge is that if a respected Jedi general like Anakin, who gradually came to distrust the jedi pretty much confirmed their fears. Of course there are many other issues with this to address like; the clones not being on a unified front with this idea, leading to inner conflicts (Which weren't seen in ROTS) and of course the younglings which they killed without hesitation. For including the inhibitor chips: I really love this tragedy and Irony because throughout the series we're told that there are similarities between the clones and the droids; they're mass produced for war and were designed with the *intent* to be subservient and obey orders without question. But of course, we see that's pretty much where the similarities end as the clones are ultimately human in spite of their origins and purpose; they can think for themselves and forge connections. Order 66 essentially spits on that idea and puts them back in factory mode. No matter how the surviving clones grew alongside their peers and understood the galaxy, for that pivotal moment in the galaxy; They. Were. droids.
I hope we eventually get a version of the canceled arcs that didn't get fleshed out (the Boba Fett arc, the Sith Temple arc, the Top Gun arc. I can go ahead and leave the Vong arc tho).
I think a missed opportunity here was a What If story in which half of the total clones refused Order 66 and helped the Jedi instead but some things play out the same. Anakin still turning to the Dark Side for example.
I've always had one problem with inhibitor chips: not so much their existence, but the feasibility of spreading the order to all clones. In Revenge of the Sith, Clone Wars and Bad Batch, we see the commanders receiving transmissions from Palpatine. But normal soldiers? Do they get a boost if their commanders get Order 66? In reality the order is broadcast to all clones, and we only see the commanders receive it? Sticking with the previous indoctrination, it would make more sense for the clones to revolt en masse, because that's what they knew would happen.
I think there was a broadcast to all clones, but palp wanted to make sure that the most skilled Jedi are really dead, so he contacted clones like Cody personal to make sure they were really following the order :D
As much as I liked the Siege of Mandalore and Order 66 as the shows official finale, Yoda's Journey/final arc hits different. For one he was the first character we see in the series and it feels right with the original runs ending with him confronting his fears, educating himself and learning more about the force and life after death. Secondly a lot of the ideas set up in the Clone Wars (Maul's return as the godfather of the criminal underworld as well as this arc) would more (probably explored in Star Wars Underworld, the unmade live action show Lucas was working on) then likely have been explored in Lucas's sequel trilogy, had he made them. Finally, the final arc is the very last involvement George Lucas had with the franchise before it was sold to Disney. The ending of season 6 and by extension is very Lucas feeling with the bright natural colors and the life of the tree as well as the optimism that the Jedi will eventually win the eternal war against the Sith even if it may not be in the Clone Wars. Something I also noticed is that during the vision Yoda has of the burning temple, Ashoka is lying on the ground dying. Since Lucas didn't want any of the characters who weren't in the movies surviving past the desired end of the Clone Wars, this implies that Ashoka would have most likely died in the original Siege of Mandalore during Order 66 had Disney not cancelled the show. Which is also why in the original run, in the cancelled Cad Bane/Boba Fett arc, Boba would have killed Bane in the final duel instead of just wounding him, thus taking up the mantle of best bounty hunter during the Original Trilogy.
15:50 What would the Council do? The Sith was enemies of the Jedi, not the Senate. Windu states that the belief in the Republic War Machine would stop if it all became public and the Republic would 100% lose the war against the Separatists. What could they do about the clones? Also, them acting against Palpatine would only prove Palpatines point that the Jedi's are acting against the senate since they wouldn't have the senates approval to make moves on their own.
@@thegoldman25 I agree, they were never taught how to lead an army. The Jedi were horrible generals early on in the war. But you need to take into account that it's year 3 of the war at the time of their discovery. It's a bit to late to realize that they never should've been put in charge. But they couldn't just leave the war. It's a political game. How would it look if the Jedi just left the war effort for a reason that's not a concern for the republic? It'd look like they suddenly stopped caring and it'd look like they acted against the interest of the republic they're supposed to serve. It's not the smart thing to do but it's quite logical that they naively chose to turn a blind eye on their discovery and hope to end the war before the clones started carrying out the mission they're supposed to do. And I don't think I'm making conclusions based on viewers perspective here. They could investigate it further but the Jedi had very little margin to act at that time of the war. The series clearly shows how powrful Palpatine's influence is, as well as how the Jedi are pressured by the Senate.
Given what we know about Andors production its likely they actually had a very large part of production done on the writing end for season 2 which puts it ahead of others shows of our time relatively.
I think the main point about Yoda keeping Dooku a secret is half because it shows that the Jedi are too arrogant because they had just begun the outer rim sieges and were months away from winning the war and because it proves that Dooku was right about Yoda was everything wrong with the "modern" Jedi Despite being very wise Yoda and all his piers were too complacent in their ways to even THINK about changing Yoda is NOT the good guy in the prequels only after he "Looses" the fight with Sidious does he rethink his life and learn more about the force even when training Luke to kill his dad he doesn't even entertain the Idea the Vader can come back to the light
Doesn’t should realize that the best way to repair their image and get their fanbase back is simply to finish these episodes that are literally already written and half are already partially made
I feel like you should’ve also mentioned another reason why the Clone Wars was canceled was because Disney was focusing way too much on the Original Trilogy era at that time and the clone wars wouldn’t have fit with all of the pandering.
Love the s6 thumbnail with the clone as a reference to the dvds! Though, as a collector, it makes me sad that Lucasfilm didn't keep with the formula and have a singular character like fives or padme or someone
The first 4 episodes of season 6 should fall under cruel and unusual punishment the way they make you watch a fan favorite character embark on a journey you know is destined to fail
Honestly before season 7, I loved the ending of this season as an ending to the show. Yoda getting a vision of the future and realizing that, even if he doesn't know how, the end of the jedi is drawing near. Yet, he takes solace in the fact that the sith will be defeated for good, and the jedi order will rise again because of luke.
I'm conflicted. Without disney we would've gotten more clone wars, but without disney we wouldn't have Rebels. As much as I love clone wars, I think i'll take the alternate history with Rebels
@thegoldman25 Agreed. We wouldn't have rebels. But we'd have so much more! Considering how involved Lucas was with every project. And Filoni along with all this experience would have ended up making something akin to rebels, just as with Clone Wars for a whole new generation of kids, that was the intent anyways. I mean the evolution of Rebels was the same as with the Clone Wars.
A lot of you have been asking me to cover Rebels. I already have a rebels retrospective video! ua-cam.com/video/dLN_kJjQJwM/v-deo.htmlsi=ACXXS5a_w1Sqbi-1
52 unfinished episodes 😭😭😭😭😭😭 my heart just sank
Yeah it's so sad, I wish Lucas never sold to Disney 😢
technically now just 40, but that's still so many
@@thegoldman25They should take each arc and release them as Disney + original films. It would give them a higher budget and wouldn't confuse people as much as a "season 8"
@@megalodon2k2 also clone wars is an antology series so they can release the episodes out of order and no one would give a sh**. Theres literally an entire arc released here on youtube.
@@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly Most of the episodes that were out of order don't really raise questions but releasing 40 episodes after the "final season" would make some less experienced fans ask questions.
The inhibitor chip arc is probably my favorite arc in TCW. So much foreshadowing and pieces of the puzzle fitting perfectly
RIP Fives
Me: gotta take a 25:00 break, The Gold Man just made a video
Boss: understandable
You’re too kind
In season 2 of Bad Batch, Tarkin tells his fellow Imperials that the clones grew far too individualistic and free-thinking under Jedi leadership and therefore they must be phased out of the Imperial military. He sees this as a problem but really he laid out the reason that we've come to love the clones over the years.
I’m actually glad that the Lucasfilm’s interest in Star Wars The Clone Wars was revived in 2020 during the Pandemic. Especially when Disney+ launched in several countries like Europe during the pandemic.
Those were the good days
europe is a continent not a country
As a European, reading that hurt
Average citizen from the US who deosnt know what a continent is because they call their county America
never clicked that quickly
I hope you enjoy!
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I honestly feel the same way about the inhibitor chips. Rather than having the clones be cold, ruthlessly efficient soldiers in every waking moment of their lives, it's way more impactful to spend an entire TV series making them human, only to cap it off with the biggest of big bads forcibly ripping that humanity away from them.
Yeah I like the inhibitor chip idea way more than what legends did with the clones.
One thing brought up in the inhibitor chip arc that’s arguably one of the saddest elements of Star Wars is the repeated line of “the mission, the nightmares, they’re finally over…” the implication that the Clones had nightmares about Order 66 (and I’m pretty sure it was established that they didn’t even know what the nightmares meant) will forever make me stop dead in my tracks and my heart sink to my stomach 💔
At least, assuming the extent to which that’s canon of course
The fives arc hit me so hard when I was a kid, Sometimes I still can't bring myself to watch it because I love fives. And the series did a great job making me truly feel as if I had actually lost someone when he died on screen.
I’m working as a GP. Patients can wait. Gotta see this
Hahahaha
It feels like it’s a bigger priority
Til this day. Even with having 7 Seasons. We still got robbed of half season 6, 7 and the whole of season 8.
2 entire seasons worth of episodes gone, reduced to atoms.
And all for what? Two mediocre, occasionally excellent, sequel shows.
@meanderingmangomanthe1stof611 at least they can always finish the episode in the future. I hope but doubt it.
@@LewisBuck2005 they could release the others as a tales of the jedi/empire type of show! Just call it tales from the clone wars!
@@kdusel1991but make them their full 22 minutes instead of 12-16
The Sith shrine under the Jedi Temple did make its way into canon later in the Tarkin novel and has since popped in various books and comics. Most recently it's actually been quite key in the High Republic books.
We also see a Sith shrine under the Jedi Temple that the Collosus crew stumbled upon in the Resistance show indicating how this "purification" was something the Jedi did often.
true, but the arc itself is not canon
These videos are so nice to watch, editing is smooth, audio is crisp just a nice viewing experience
I try my best! Thanks for noticing!
Right? I always watch them during lunch.
19:12 Maul formed the Shadow Collective during season 5, that’s the alliance between Maul and Savage, the Crime Syndicates and Death Watch. The Shadow Collective is actually dismantled by the end of Son of Dathomir and after that he starts Crimson Dawn as his own Crime Syndicate.
My Top 10 TCW arc‘s in order from 1-10:
- Siege of Mandalore
- Ahsoka framed
- Fives conspiracy
- Maul conquers Mandalore
- Battle of Umbara
- Maul‘s ressurection
- Yoda‘s journey
- the citadel
- Obi-Wan undercover
- Onderon rebels
Honorable mentions to all the nightsisters arcs I just couldn’t squeeze them in there
MORTIS ARC IS TOP 3!!!
@@Forest06 I liked the concepts from the mortis arc but the execution wasn't great imho.
@@Forest06 Mortis arc is honestly kind of bad
I live in Germany and could watch the Episodes on TV. Thank you SuperRTL for releasing them on free TV, I would have been lost without you
i love hearing about people all over the world watching these shows
And we got them before anybody else I believe
@@PascimanArc23 oh that I didn't know. I only remember watching These Episodes not knowing that it is the end. I also remember that I actualy liked the Story with JarJar and Mace and crying when fives died.
I remember finding the chip arc on the internet before the season released and it was in german with no subtitles so I just tried to figure out the story by what was happening
A lore reason I defend the inhibitor chips is this:
Since having clones kill jedi was Palpatine's endgame for the war, he would not want to risk any clones somehow defying their programming. Multiple stories have characters that were brainwashed at birth, only to break free. Take Finn, for example.
Lastly, Palpatine wore a black robe and was physically scarred when he gave the order. He told everyone about his scars after giving the order. The clones would've assumed it was an imposter calling them.
Fair points
I completely agree with gold on the whole inhibitor chip thing and Honestly, honestly, honestly, I never cared for the expanded universe
Some stuff in the Expanded Universe is good but the majority of it is so confusing and stupid.
3:56 this is precisely why we don’t see more shows like this. Becoming a Billionaire like George is not easy to do. And to do it without sacrificing your morals and your character is something that takes an extreme amount of luck. Billionaires rarely have the heart to be passionate about this kind of story telling, and those who do/did probably don’t have the time anymore. It takes someone really special to do what George did. He made and told a story (the original trilogy) and became rich off of it. But instead of milking it for all it was worth right off the bat, he took a break. It gave him time to think “what other stories can I tell?”. And then he took all of that money he made before, and funded them himself. He seemingly didn’t care if it made or lost him money, he just wanted to tell stories. And I think that’s awesome.
Lucas is one of a kind
@@thegoldman25absolutely 💯
genuienly thank you so much for not stretching these out over weeks or months like many other youtubers would have
Glad you like them! Making 2 of these a week is pretty doable. Thank you for tuning in for each one of these!
It only felt like half a season too me! If I was watching this show while it was being made I’d be Mad and I mean MAD!
i dont blame you
I absolutely love s6 and hope those remaining unused/unfinished arcs are adapted in other media or at least mentioned
Me too
@@thegoldman25 we have that with Dark Disciple and the son of dathomir comic!
Dang, I wasn’t aware that the Inhibitor Chip Arc needed defending.
Recently on UA-cam a massive influx of Expanded Universe nerds have proclaimed their distaste of Clone Wars 2008 for pissing all over the pre established canon at the time, and one of the major criticisms of the show these nutcases have are about the Inhibitor Chip Arc, because they somehow think that the clones being ruthlessly cold and mindlessly following orders is more badass than what Clone Wars 2008 did with the clones, and that the chips were an easy way out. I genuinely don't know how someone with their mental faculties in order can utter an opinion like that, but these EU nerds think like that.
@@MarceloZ2 The same people who vouch 03 under rule of cool right?
Yeah these guys remind me of what the standard critic thinks the Sequel Trilogy fan act like, stubborn about their content being superior to anything else in the fanbase and refuse any criticism whatsoever even if they argued the same thing for Disney content.
@@MarceloZ2 clones cold following orders isn't more badass, but that's what they were intended to be. Clones were engineered and bred so they would do the things they need to out of their loyalty. 10 years of training and stuff.
@mrzirak792 I know, and this is true to the clones as portrayed in the 2008 show as well as the Clone Wars Multimedia Project in the EU. The difference is that the 2008 show developed the clones and they eventually were more than mindless drones cold following orders, and in the CWMP, they never became more than that, and the argument the EU nerds make about the CWMP clones being better involves them thinking the CWMP clones were more badass because they were like that, that's why I mentioned it. I disagree wholeheartedly with the EU nerds, I'll take the Clone Wars 2008 clones over the CWMP clones any day of the week in a heartbeat.
@MarceloZ2 if you think there wasn't reg clones that weren't cold order followers, you haven't read EU 😐
I still can't watch the Fives arc without crying,...it and Umbara always never fail to break me❤
The clone episodes break my heart because of how good they are
Ahsoka also figured out Anakin and Padme were together, not just Clovis.
"I understand. More than you realize, I understand wanting to walk away from the Order."
"I know."
And Obi-Wan also knew, but he never thought it was that serious. He thought that, like in his case with Satine, Anakin would just get over it. He never thought it went as far as secret marriage and breaking all the oaths.
i suppose
Also once again great video! Appreciate you touching on the unfinished arcs. Honestly gonna be sad when you're done with them lol
I appreciate you tuning in for each one!
That’s right, after just 6 months after buying Star Wars, Disney proved they had no idea what they were doing by “winding down” this masterpiece 3 seasons early.
to be fair they didn't really have a choice
Just look at the Disney Infinity 3.0 Prequel play set. It’s based on the Clone Wars, but it doesn’t follow up on anything in the show.
Like Gold Man’s video said, Lucasfilm didn’t have a choice. The Clone Wars was still airing on Cartoon Network (which is owned by Warner Bros, a direct rival to Disney). And because of the distribution contracts with Cartoon Network, they couldn’t air The Clone Wars on Disney Channel or Disney XD.
Not to mention that the show was getting more darker than the executives wanted it to be. This isn’t even a Disney issue; even Cartoon Network didn’t like how dark the show was getting. These are still networks targeted for kids. Which is why when Lucasfilm began production on Rebels for Disney XD, they aimed for a more lighter tone compared to The Clone Wars.
Nowadays, Disney doesn’t really have an issue with dark and mature content. But, back then, it was an issue. And not even just for Disney, but WB/CN too.
@@keyshawnwatkins4362I take it Disney was ok with dark & gritty cartoons after Gravity Falls made them realized they can put horror elements in their shows just as they do in their movies. If Gravity Falls had aired around the time Disney bought Lucasfilm, they would’ve been ok with Clone Wars being mature & dark.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios If that did happen, and Disney didn’t cancel the show due to contracts, then yes.
my eyes popped when you said yuuzhan vong that is something I never expected to hear in relation to clone wars as someone who recently got further into the expanded universe and finds it pretty interesting
Still keeps me up at night we never got to see the siege of coruscant in the 3d clone wars.
The Bad Batch has an episode where the team goes to Kashyyyk and help the Wookiee fight Trandoshians.
From the reels we’ve seen, they clearly took a bunch of ideas from that arc. Especially the creature designs.
I might have another interesting piece of trivia about the unfinished Arcs aka, the original seasons 6,7, and 8!
The Cad Bane and Boba Fett team up arc would’ve been in season 6 right after Yoda’s journey. It would’ve then be followed by Cristal Crisis on Utapau, and Ahsoka’s walkabout would’ve been the season 6 finale
Bad Batch would’ve opened the original season 7 followed by the first 4 episodes of Dark
Disciple, then we would’ve saw Bad Batch and Yoda on Kashyyyk followed by Son of Dathomire and then the Sith Shrine acre would’ve been the finale of season 7
Season 8 would’ve opened with the last 4 episodes of Dark Disciple followed by the 4 episode Rex and R2 storyline. The next 4 episodes would’ve focused on the Yusang Vong alien abduction arc followed by Padme’s return to Mon Cala. Season 8 would’ve ended with Seige of Mandalore
I remember watching the Fives arc as it aired rooting for Fives the whole time then i realized "oh fuck the rest of the story can't happen"
I'm still baffled that Son of Dathomir wasn't revived for S7. It is still quite a gap in Maul's story for people only watching the show
#completetheclonewars we were able to get season 7 by asking for it! Let’s get them to finish it properly!
Something to also remember is that basically everything star wars related that was in production during the disney buyout was canceled. Also one kf the biggest reasons rebels looked ao cheap early on was because they had to basically start from scratch with their assets/models while the later seasons of the clone wars had several years worth of assets to pull from. Thats why after an arc like the one with the togruta, you start to see a bunch of them in the backgrounds.
You should do a Rebels retrospective after you finish season 7!
you can watch it right now! ua-cam.com/video/dLN_kJjQJwM/v-deo.htmlsi=ACXXS5a_w1Sqbi-1
I don't usually tear up when watching TV, but Fives's death broke me
Cartoon Network contract theory makes no sense. If this were the case, they would not be able to air Season 6 on Netflix. So it's obvious that CN had the licensing contract for five seasons only. They could have easily continued the series on Netflix if they wanted to. But they didn't. So yeah, the likely reasons for the cancellation were money, not wanting to pay and work on something they did not create, and them wanting to get away from anything prequel related and cash in on the OT nostalgia prior to the release of The Force Awakens. They said as much: they wanted to focus on the OT content. Rebels was OT, Marvel comics were OT, the first Battlefront videogame was OT only, and so on and so forth. Terrible decision overall, and extremely disappointing to this very day, next to cancelling Star Wars: 1313 and shutting down Lucasarts and giving away the videogame licensing rights to EA. I find it hard to forgive and get over The Clone Wars' cancellation still.
fair point
The clovis arc really shows how palpatine is a mastermind in manipulation. Most underrated arc by far.
Season 6 is highly underrated imo. The fives arc is amazing, Clovis arc is great, and the yoda arc is one of the best arcs in the show. I’m talking top 3 or 5. They really went out on a high note since they thought this would be the last season
Following arcs in seasons 7 and 8 would have been even better. These arcs were as good as they were, and they were always in S6. They didn't have to put any extra effort, because they were just that good. Clone Wars got better with each subsequent season, even though by the time of S3, it was already pretty damn good. So yeah, we were so robbed with Disney cancelling the show, and all those amazing arcs being lost forever.
it's pretty good
@ my hope is that they do eventually make most of the arcs in complete animation
Wasn’t only on Netflix, they sold it on dvd too.
I wanna chime in about the Anakin/Obi-Wan scene when they’re talking about Ahsoka’s decision to leave the Jedi Order… and ending it off with Anakin and Obi-Wan what were to happen if THEIR paths diverged.
Eventually HELLO THERE on UA-cam - you know the guy who animated the Mustafar duel in Episode III TCW-styled - animated his version of that scene, and it frames Anakin by the end of Episode III as really being isolated as the war dragged on.
that would've been a great choice tbh
The goat of Star Wars UA-cam fr
Wowza, meesah got a big suprise😂 didn’t know the next one was out so soon! Awesome!!🎉
16:48 yea the part were they did something was offscreen supposely. They launched an investegation and they were almost figuring it out but then the corusant attack happened and we know what happened after that.
Son of Dathomir probably would've been my favorite clone wars arc had it come out, and Crystal Crisis would've been the funniest.
Half of those Unfinished Arcs I had no idea about.
Now you know!
Always dropping when I'm looking for something to watch. I would love to see a similar series on Star Wars: Visions as there is a lot to cover episode to episode
Pretty thorough stuff. 😊
Clone Wars was a fantastic show.
We are so back
Personally season 6 was always my second least favorite behind season 1. It’s not bad by any means, but it doesn’t hold up to season 3, 4, 5, or the final arch, at least to me.
In my opinion the inhibitor chip and the Clone arcs in this show is one the most Star Wars stories ever made, bc it reflects one big themes present in the franchise, about underdogs becoming something greater and better.
A farm boy from a desert can become a great hero (Luke Skywalker), a evil sith lord can reveal himself to be a fallen hero capable of redemption (Darth Vader) and a group create to be soldier in a war can reveal themselves to be more human than many belive (the clones).
Boba's final arc absolutely needs to be adapted into something someday. Hell, they should've already done it before Book of Boba released because as is only hardcore fans know of Boba and Cad Bane's history that's alluded to in that show.
that would be cool
Your the goat please keep uploading 🙏
Will do!
The unreleased episodes and their potential always breaks my heart. The son of dathomir comic is fantastic and I can only imagine how much better it would be been watching Maul do it instead. And even tho bad batch kinda killed the canon of it, Dark Disciple is a fantastic story and I don’t read a lot of novels, but it’s so good. Fives is really the only worthwhile part of this season for me, I wish so badly to see SOD or DD see the light of day someday, I could see Maul doing that in a Tales of the Sith maybe. Thank god for S7 so at least bad batch and Seige of mandalore got seen.
Edit: didn’t know u were gonna talk abt them, you are the man Gold Man 🙌
Im ready daddy
Dawg
Hahaha thanks
Dudes becoming freakbob
21:33 apparently, it is. I wish they would adapt it as a miniseries or something cause, let's be, not many are interested in reading secondary material such as books.
Interesting
@@thegoldman25 Also, the return of Ventress was something Filoni and co. planned way before the Bad Batch, apparently.
The inhibitor chip arc needs no defending. It undeniably made the prequels (ROTS especially) better and that is half of the entire merit of Clone Wars as a series as well as just being a great show.
Will you discuss the micro series? And the clone wars multimedia project and discus how the timelines are different etc.
Also fun fact the Clovis Arc was supposed to be in season 5 before they shifted to focus on Ahaoka more.
Until season 7 the clone wars with season 6 began and ended with a yoda episode kind of bringing it full circle.
The return of the king
*queue LotR music
I will forever disagree with the EU nerds that the Clone Wars multimedia project was better than what Clone Wars 2008 brought to the Star Wars canon. The CWMP had some good stories, but Clone Wars 2008 brought even better stories with cooler solutions to events in ROTS and with way better characters. I really don't care that Clone Wars 2008 pissed all over the CWMP, it is better.
I'm with you. Just because the EU was darker that doesn't mean it's better
They have 8 Seasons Planned 😭 18:25 love the dark disciple book 📖
Top 10🎉🎉🎉 Good vid and keep up the content❤❤
Nice profile pic btw
The Kashyyyk Arc was actually adapted in the Bad Batch! Season 2 Episode 6, “Tribe”! From my understanding it’s not a 1:1 adaptation but there’s a lot of elements they used from the unfinished arc into TBB episode. Tho I think Yoda was replaced by Gungi.
It was going to be pretty different imo considering Yoda was a bit part of the original. But yeah a few concepts were probably brought over
Will there be videos about the bad batch just like this? Or tales? That'd be amazing
I will cover the bad batch next year, probably wont do tales because i hate those shows, but I could be convinced
Regarding the inclusion of inhibitor chips in lore, I'm actually pretty indifferent to either option (i.e. either having the clones do it out of their free will or using the inhibitor chips to remove their individuality). I think either option has it's pros and cons but they add their own flavour to the tragedy that is Revenge of the Sith
If they didn't include the inhibitor chips: there's no denying that they would need to do the work to justify why the clones would turn on the jedi, especially the padawans/younglings. But (at least for the jedi generals) I think there could've been an argument; Pong Krell. Especially within the 501st and 212th who we're the victims to Krell's plan on Umbara (not to mention the regiments he served beforehand) they could play with this idea with sections of clones growing more distrustful of the jedi; are there more jedi who are like Krell? do the jedi even value them as much as they say they do? I think it *could* work as another flavour of tragedy, that being it was the clones individuality and feelings that led to the Jedi's downfall. It was a double edged sword to put it short. What could also drive them towards the edge is that if a respected Jedi general like Anakin, who gradually came to distrust the jedi pretty much confirmed their fears. Of course there are many other issues with this to address like; the clones not being on a unified front with this idea, leading to inner conflicts (Which weren't seen in ROTS) and of course the younglings which they killed without hesitation.
For including the inhibitor chips: I really love this tragedy and Irony because throughout the series we're told that there are similarities between the clones and the droids; they're mass produced for war and were designed with the *intent* to be subservient and obey orders without question. But of course, we see that's pretty much where the similarities end as the clones are ultimately human in spite of their origins and purpose; they can think for themselves and forge connections. Order 66 essentially spits on that idea and puts them back in factory mode. No matter how the surviving clones grew alongside their peers and understood the galaxy, for that pivotal moment in the galaxy; They. Were. droids.
fair takes. Thank you for taking the time to write this btw. I like reading people's more in depth opinions on topics I talk about
Youzhang-vong arc would have been a much, much better track to take for disney. If they ever completed that i would’ve cried happy tears
im not a vong fan, but if they do make these Rey new jedi order movies having the Vong as an enemy could be interesting
I hope we eventually get a version of the canceled arcs that didn't get fleshed out (the Boba Fett arc, the Sith Temple arc, the Top Gun arc. I can go ahead and leave the Vong arc tho).
It's absolutely wild that true understanding of the Book of Boba Fett involves researching the partially produced Boba season 6 arc.
We can only dream
Sick of the Vong hate
R.I.P. Fives 😭💔
lost missions did not just come to netflix, it did get a dvd release. i have it on my bookshelf.
true, but it was marketed as a netflix release
Before season 7 came out and this was the last one, I thought it was extremely underwhelming
I can get that
Best season by far. Even S7 doesn't compare.
S5 is my fav
@thegoldman25 The Maul arc and Hardeen arc are top.
10 years ago? 😢 holy hell i feel old
you are old
I think a missed opportunity here was a What If story in which half of the total clones refused Order 66 and helped the Jedi instead but some things play out the same. Anakin still turning to the Dark Side for example.
Inhibitor chips would be a great branding for potato chips actually 😂
I was also very sad that we never got to see the Captain Rex and R2 arc as that would have been a very fun arc
That would’ve been fun
Been loving this series but man it’s making me feel old lol
Hopefully the season 7 video will make you feel younger
Woooooo! Perfect thing to start my day with homie.
Haha thanks!
I've always had one problem with inhibitor chips: not so much their existence, but the feasibility of spreading the order to all clones.
In Revenge of the Sith, Clone Wars and Bad Batch, we see the commanders receiving transmissions from Palpatine. But normal soldiers? Do they get a boost if their commanders get Order 66? In reality the order is broadcast to all clones, and we only see the commanders receive it?
Sticking with the previous indoctrination, it would make more sense for the clones to revolt en masse, because that's what they knew would happen.
Yeah that’s a bit confusing
I think there was a broadcast to all clones, but palp wanted to make sure that the most skilled Jedi are really dead, so he contacted clones like Cody personal to make sure they were really following the order :D
As much as I liked the Siege of Mandalore and Order 66 as the shows official finale, Yoda's Journey/final arc hits different. For one he was the first character we see in the series and it feels right with the original runs ending with him confronting his fears, educating himself and learning more about the force and life after death. Secondly a lot of the ideas set up in the Clone Wars (Maul's return as the godfather of the criminal underworld as well as this arc) would more (probably explored in Star Wars Underworld, the unmade live action show Lucas was working on) then likely have been explored in Lucas's sequel trilogy, had he made them. Finally, the final arc is the very last involvement George Lucas had with the franchise before it was sold to Disney. The ending of season 6 and by extension is very Lucas feeling with the bright natural colors and the life of the tree as well as the optimism that the Jedi will eventually win the eternal war against the Sith even if it may not be in the Clone Wars.
Something I also noticed is that during the vision Yoda has of the burning temple, Ashoka is lying on the ground dying. Since Lucas didn't want any of the characters who weren't in the movies surviving past the desired end of the Clone Wars, this implies that Ashoka would have most likely died in the original Siege of Mandalore during Order 66 had Disney not cancelled the show. Which is also why in the original run, in the cancelled Cad Bane/Boba Fett arc, Boba would have killed Bane in the final duel instead of just wounding him, thus taking up the mantle of best bounty hunter during the Original Trilogy.
WE WERE GOING TO GET A VONG ARC?????? My heart is shattered 23:08
15:50 What would the Council do? The Sith was enemies of the Jedi, not the Senate. Windu states that the belief in the Republic War Machine would stop if it all became public and the Republic would 100% lose the war against the Separatists. What could they do about the clones?
Also, them acting against Palpatine would only prove Palpatines point that the Jedi's are acting against the senate since they wouldn't have the senates approval to make moves on their own.
the Jedi should've left the war. It was never their place to be generals in the war anyway
or seek out answers to why the sith would do this
@@thegoldman25 I agree, they were never taught how to lead an army. The Jedi were horrible generals early on in the war. But you need to take into account that it's year 3 of the war at the time of their discovery. It's a bit to late to realize that they never should've been put in charge.
But they couldn't just leave the war. It's a political game. How would it look if the Jedi just left the war effort for a reason that's not a concern for the republic? It'd look like they suddenly stopped caring and it'd look like they acted against the interest of the republic they're supposed to serve.
It's not the smart thing to do but it's quite logical that they naively chose to turn a blind eye on their discovery and hope to end the war before the clones started carrying out the mission they're supposed to do. And I don't think I'm making conclusions based on viewers perspective here.
They could investigate it further but the Jedi had very little margin to act at that time of the war. The series clearly shows how powrful Palpatine's influence is, as well as how the Jedi are pressured by the Senate.
Given what we know about Andors production its likely they actually had a very large part of production done on the writing end for season 2 which puts it ahead of others shows of our time relatively.
I think the main point about Yoda keeping Dooku a secret is half because it shows that the Jedi are too arrogant because they had just begun the outer rim sieges and were months away from winning the war and because it proves that Dooku was right about Yoda was everything wrong with the "modern" Jedi
Despite being very wise Yoda and all his piers were too complacent in their ways to even THINK about changing
Yoda is NOT the good guy in the prequels only after he "Looses" the fight with Sidious does he rethink his life and learn more about the force even when training Luke to kill his dad he doesn't even entertain the Idea the Vader can come back to the light
fair points
Not me already watching a gold man video to see this uploaded mid way through
No such thing as too much gold man
Doesn’t should realize that the best way to repair their image and get their fanbase back is simply to finish these episodes that are literally already written and half are already partially made
literally just wanted to rewatch s7 today
im about to rewatch it today too
I feel like you should’ve also mentioned another reason why the Clone Wars was canceled was because Disney was focusing way too much on the Original Trilogy era at that time and the clone wars wouldn’t have fit with all of the pandering.
This is a pretty solid season overall! Also we need more Tim Curry as Palpatine. He was pretty good!
I’m sure Ian himself would come back. He did for Rebels
I like that Ian's back, but Tim was decent.@@thegoldman25
Love the s6 thumbnail with the clone as a reference to the dvds! Though, as a collector, it makes me sad that Lucasfilm didn't keep with the formula and have a singular character like fives or padme or someone
they've been making blu rays for the D+ shows, they should do one of season 7 as well
@@thegoldman25 i wholeheartedly agree, would be cool if they redid the complete series box set now that it's all wrapped up too
the clone Arc in this season is my favorite in all of CW
it was really good
The first 4 episodes of season 6 should fall under cruel and unusual punishment the way they make you watch a fan favorite character embark on a journey you know is destined to fail
Honestly before season 7, I loved the ending of this season as an ending to the show. Yoda getting a vision of the future and realizing that, even if he doesn't know how, the end of the jedi is drawing near. Yet, he takes solace in the fact that the sith will be defeated for good, and the jedi order will rise again because of luke.
it's honestly not the worst ending, I liked Yoda's little speech there
so sad it was way too short- but still really nice storylines
The ammount of content Disney scrapped is insane... I bet Filoni was fuming when he heard it's all over.
I'm conflicted. Without disney we would've gotten more clone wars, but without disney we wouldn't have Rebels. As much as I love clone wars, I think i'll take the alternate history with Rebels
@thegoldman25 Agreed. We wouldn't have rebels. But we'd have so much more! Considering how involved Lucas was with every project. And Filoni along with all this experience would have ended up making something akin to rebels, just as with Clone Wars for a whole new generation of kids, that was the intent anyways. I mean the evolution of Rebels was the same as with the Clone Wars.
I hope one day we can get the unfinished arcs as specials
they should do "Tales of the Clone Wars"
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I dont know if its an unpopular opinion but god damn The Gold Man is drop dead gorgeous. Like that is one stunning man
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