I’m ready to be cooked for my tier list. But here are some amendments from while I was editing: some amendments i made while editing: metriacanthosaurus = d to c megalania = d to c barsboldia = s/a to b hatzgopteryx = d to c albertaceratops = b to a
@@VelocciYT The speed and the stamina/health regen rates really shine on Pycno. It's a great dino right now. It actually has really good damage output. I been running crater with my Pycno and Pycno goons on official passive growth servers and pretty much anything on land will crouch to show they are friendly because they know they can't escape the Pycno or its damage. 🐺💜
@ interesting! I might have to give pycno a second shot 👀 I used to love pycno, but after the new tlc I found it hard to properly play it aside from being a small game hunter! Perhaps I was doing it wrong! Ofc I don’t dislike pycno, I do think it’s decent! :D
@@VelocciYT yeah give it a go! Here's our build: Cracked scutes, headbutt, headslam, juggernaut, thick scutes, braced legs, charge, tail attack for more knock back control and swap between bulldozer and deep breath. Mostly run deep breath though for stamina to run forever.
As a meg main, the fall from grace hurts Of *all* the carnivores to take away the tail ability it’s insane they removed Megalania’s considering how monitor lizards will actually use their tails like whips whereas the tails of most theropods are too stiff to weaponize like a whip It would’ve been really cool if they also Meg’s tail whip had a bleed affect since it can actually cause lacerations to the skin
That's what I'm saying, ESPECIALLY PYC, why on God's earth does the least flexible tail in theropoda get the dumbest looking tail attack in the game????
I wish they would add some sort of (tail shed) like takes a certain amount of damage it just falls off. When you bait an attack/turn your tail goes right into attack range. This would eliminate that and you could get like a turn/stam buff maybe 5% till it grows back. Idk could be cool.
Meg is just not luved by devs I swear😭 only neefs lmao and if it does get a update it’s a rebuff like venom which they better make good with its tlc (which again prob won’t come till like next year😭) honestly it jus needs new abilities it can’t compete with the new tlc lol and the model pls new model it hurts me how mid the model is because I love meg and im a meg main🥲
I kinda wish Megalania could use Toxin like Miragaia. So then you can choose between using Heavy Bite for more damage, or a Bite that deals Toxic damage to make your target quicker to kill
@@Kurotitan7125 I think toxin would be great for Meg, although needs to be in a way that’s balanced, maybe less inflicted. But defos needs something so it’s less reliant on Venom, which isn’t that good atm
@@VelocciYT also I want to make it apparent that on the PTB Sucho and Deinocheirus are going to lose a lot of their combat weight and make them mid tiers which doesn't make sense to me
@@MorbidSenseOfHumor just have to take it with a pinch of salt! But that’s ofc where I would place stuff! Just bare in mind lower tiers may not be bad, just might have higher skill curves
@@hellsker3433 I think that’s why I ranked it quite low, it’s not exactly something that you can pick up and have a great time on the first go, it defos requires some time to perfect it. But that’s equally the same with other lower ranking dinos, they defos are unbelievable in the right hands! I do think looking back, originally I was too harsh on Hatz
Timestamps: Carnivores: 0:17 Achillobator C Tier 0:42 Alioramus C Tier 01:06 Allosaurus A Tier 01:28 Ceratosaurus A Tier 02:13 Concavenator B Tier 02:31 Daspletosaurus S Tier 03:02 Deinonychus C Tier 03:19 Latinovenatrix B Tier 03:42 Megalania D Tier 04:33 Metriacanthosaurus D Tier 05:37 Pycnonemosaurus C Tier 06:35 Sarcosuchus A Tier 06:52 Spinosaurus A Tier 07:36 Suchomimus A Tier 08:19 Tyrannotitan S Tier 09:03 Tyrannosaurus S Tier Herbivores: 10:00 Albertaceratops B Tier 10:43 Amargasaurus B Tier 11:24 Anodontosaurus A Tier 12:12 Barsboldia A/B Tier 12:59 Camptosaurus D Tier 13:42 Deinocheirus A Tier 14:14 Eotriceratops S Tier 14:34 Iguanodon A Tier 15:11 Kentrosaurus B/A Tier 15:57 Lambeosaurus S Tier 17:30 Pachycephalosaurus A Tier 18:28 Stegosaurus S Tier 19:16 Styracosaurus A Tier 20:04 Struthiomimus B Tier 21:08 Hatzegopteryx D/C Tier 21:49 Thalassodromeus B Tier 22:30 Eurhinosaurus/Kaiwheka D Tier 23:23 Miragaia B Tier 24:10 Rhamphorynchus B Tier
So one thing I do when playing on official - is just solo survival runs. Which has a much different criteria for success than pvp. How fast does food/water deplete, how easy is it to find food, can it fit in caves, movement and mobility, movement sound, can it see above the bush line, etc.. Campto and Deinonychus are S tier in a pure survival sense. The ability to run and hide is a defense - even when considering pvp.
@@phaedrus12134 of course! I think when it comes to pure survival those two are great! But I feel like they should offer more (I mean deinon offers more, but I do think it kinda got slightly more restricted to a meat shield / pseudo-support style, so i personally think laten outshines it) Campto, good for running yes, but I think since struthi got some love I’d definitely want to see Campto get some love too! It has a lot more potential, and I still greatly miss its tail attack I appreciate the comment! :D
EXACTLYYYY This video feels very dependant on what server you are actively playing on, and as a offical server player the experience is so vastly different. I am inspired however to make my own tier list based on the experience of playing on officals, especially since most of my hrs on path have be solo or pretty much solo in offical. I am confident in my abilities and have a few favourites who have both risen in power, and fallen from grace.
@@VelocciYT some feedback I’d give for tier lists in the future would be to explain at the beginning what some of the factors you are taking into consideration are. Are you talking about your experience on community, or offical? Are you talking about servers with rules or all our death match no rule servers? What are that servers current stats? With community servers being able to adjust all of this, and more the experience for all players varies drastically. It could also be helpful for newer players if you explain the play style more blatantly to summaries them. Alio is my baby and I stand by that it is a good playable, however it desperately needs a tlc again since it’s currently play style lacks the variety other dinosaurs have been reviving (there are a lot of other dinosaurs that need tlcs rlly bad too) Alio is good for anything PvP with Dino’s below or at its weight class however when in a group you can take on much larger prey. Alios hit and run play style is very fun but makes it more restrictive to servers that you have good ping/tick rate on. Alios often get brought in to kill other Alios so stay vigilant and be aware of patchies bone break, and use the environment to your advantage! Alio has the speed and agility to get away from larger threats and is pretty good at escaping mega mix packs like on offical. Watch your stam and try to learn when to GTFO! :D It could also be neat to see you discuss dinosaur stats as is and go over those details and cover some match ups too. Maybe working through dinosaurs per weight class could help? Going from light to heavy and discussing the player experience of solo and group play, and some notes on how to be a better group player too. These videos are really helpful for new players and I really appreciate the work you do, while the game is no where near as tutorial and guide starved as the isle there are a lot of helpful tips and tricks you can take away from your guide videos so thanks heaps for all your work! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@ totally understandable! I think tier lists can equally be quite subjective, as you said, based on where the player mainly plays, what they have more experience with and of course personal opinions too. I think that’ll be the case with a lot of tier lists, but I do think going forward for future ones at the start I’m going to include in the intro the factors I’ve put in for the decisions
him-"ramph is fun because there is more to the game then just attacking people" also him-"If the microraptor doesn't have an attack it'll just go into C..."
I love Metri because it can take a hit and it does bleed but compared to lamb, it has a 5 minute cooldown on heals and personal heals can't be used in addition to group heals. I believe Lamb even has an ability that decreases cooldown time, so it can essentially heal every 2.30 minutes. I definitely agree that there needs to be either a buff to Metri or a new healer altogether. I also think we need an aquatic party healer. Crab is great, but can't heal in combat which really takes away from it.
I understand the way you ranked it but for any solo players out there that want to go explore and mess around in hotspots deinony> laten. If you run laten i guarantee an alio or a struthi will end you sooner or later so if you wanna live solo, be a deinony
@@GuilhermeSilva-xk1vu of course! For exploration I do think movement wise Deinon is great! It allows it to get to certain areas and out of harms way better, combat wise, laten I personally like combat wise, especially against smaller game! I can see both sides of the deinon laten coin, I think it’s basically one of those ones where there’s a lot to love for each side and usually people have a favourite
I personally would say microraptor could potentially be B tier with no damage, but only if it has access to abilities that complement an evasive play style (double jumps and/or a pounce de-latch mechanic that lets it jump high and glide away). At the very least this can make it effective at support without the risk of it getting squished If it doesn’t have that though, I’d put it in D tier primarily because it would just be a far worse ramph that can’t fly, can’t swim, and given how microraptor will likely be slower than much of the roster on the ground, can’t run. It also if it’s a pouncer will need to manage its stamina way more than other raptors because if it can’t jump to glide away or climb, it is toast
@@kotomisadventures9095 I agree with you! I think I was a bit too pessimistic saying it could be a D tier, but I think that was me worrying about a worst case scenario. I do feel like it’ll be pretty solid and be rather feature complete when it releases tho!
@@VelocciYT I share that same fear in the corner of my brain XD Micro 110% could be the most fun ever, or the biggest letdown ever. But, given the dev team’s tendency to listen to their community when a move is unpopular or controversial, I have hope that micro can be and will be amazing! …hopefully it can climb rocks too, I’m not sure why trees would be the only things it could climb
Tyranno is a good Dino but I struggle every single time to survive as I play as it, I can only eat critters which is not filling and players,and I just end up starving because I’m not fully grown yet. It has a fast hunger drain
agreed, this is the only dino I've found myself either dying to or almost dying to hunger everytime i play. They've buffed the hunger drain once to my knowledge, but it needs another buff. I feel like I don't even have the time to do quests because i'm constantly trying to find my next meal
It's nice to see spino getting some love since most people put it in c Tier due to its movement speed, and it's turning speed, so im gald spino it's A tier as a spino main myself also cant wait for the live stream tomorrow
@VelocciYT I'm not surprised with how long and big its tail is, plus the knock back makes sense due to its size and making sure nothing can tail ride it
The "Mob Boss" playstyle is so dumb for Achillo, you get armor for each small raptor in your group but why not just take more Achillos instead? In the Mob Boss playstyle you become an easy target. In a group of other Achillos you get more weight, power, and survivability.
Ngl, I think Achillo was supposed to be a pack hunter with other Achillo's, but AG seeing how OP and strong it was in a pack (when it first released) decided to make it into a mob-boss type of creature. That's just what I think
Personally I’d put Allo at C, and I’m saying this as a former Allo main. Now yes Allo has gotten some MAJOR improvements however because it’s such a “pretty good at all, not specialised” it gets bullied really hard on offical. If you see a solo Allo around it’s common that it’ll die shortly after. I’ve killed allos on Struthi before. STRUTHI. Allo currently doesn’t work as a solo playable, and even in groups it can be a hard time. Allo doesn’t have the speed and turn rate to be able to defend itself against bigger groups, and has a hard time against mega mix packs that happen upon you in offical. The amount of times I’ve been hunted down and killed on Allo is higher than any other dinosaur I have played. And I MAINED Allo. I have played Allo so much to such little reward since there is sometimes just nothing you can do. Titans have been a huge problem for allos and with their superior agility. I love Allo. Me and all my friends LOVE Allo. But god damnit Allo isn’t fun to play on offical. Sometimes in groups? Yeah, but it usually ends the same way. I need to pick it up again in the future but I think I’ll just wait for the tlc.
I think Allo really needs that TLC, it reminds me of the social media post on the PoT Instagram the other day Where it was Dasp v Allo who wins? And everyone was commenting about the Allo TLC and how it should get one and that it’s unfair to compare it to Dasp. (Which tbf in the current standpoint it is) While personally I recently played Allo and I enjoyed it quite well, it’s definitely a lot better than it used to be! I can agree with your placement to put it into B honestly, Allo has been outshone by tyrannotitan
@ yup 100%! Yeah before Dasps TLC it was still a bit of a easy match up (I mained dasp and Allo around the same time) however I won some match ups then on both of them, currently Allo is lacking a lot of variety in abilities and movement, especially when a bleeder needs to constantly be moving to keep their target bleeding, or to get out of the way after hitting them. I really hope they get a second head slot since Hatchet would be fun to use if it didn’t leave you so vulnerable. The hit box for claws is a lot different so itd be nice to have that as an option I think. Allo can be a fun time but you need to get very lucky on offical and usually need to at least be in a pair, solo is a rough time :,,) Dasp on the other hand is super good atm, and Allo has been outclassed. But yeah I saw that post as well, I share that sentiment, the lack of a TLC for Allo makes the current match up (despite the improvements) lacking. Especially on offical where there are some other things to consider with the lack of rules. I feel like the Solo and Permadeath would treat Allo alright in comparison but that being said (if I remember right) it’s only in North American region atm so my ping is terrible (I’m an Aussie) so it’s been too painful at times to want to spend so long growing something only to have ping issues :,))
Man I think Rex is just lacking not entirely sure where but it just is. It gets beat out by Spino Tyrannotitan and even Sucho it needs improvement and needs it now look I am a bit interested in what a Rex TLC could look like but man playing as Rex doesn’t feel that fun to me
Thal is so much worse than a hatz when it comes to combat, it literally gets killed by 3 barrelrolls. If it would have a bit more health so it doesn't get swated out of the air like a fly, I could see it, but putting hatz so low compared to thal is just criminal. I killed a stego as a hatz, the only thing I kill with thal is fish
I think it’d be interesting for large pterosaurs like Harxy to get an ability where they can blind large dinosaurs, specially carnivores. Imagine a T-Rex pulling up to one to break it, just for the screen to go black for some 20 seconds. It’d make you think twice just like it probably happened back in the day.
Yes some suchomimus love!! I main sucho for no reason other than they're one of my favourite dinosaurs outside of PoT and I think they're super fun to play as
Hatz is solid A tier. Huge damage output on big stuff with stab and peck destroys mid and small tiers while giving you back stamina. You just need to play smart and engage either on cliffs or open spaces, where you can take off easly in case you need to retreat. Flail and Barrel Roll 2/3 shot any Thal dumb enough to try biting you in the air, and let you hit all the grounded players while staying out of reach. The only thing you need to worry about are bonebreak and pouncers (which is dumb since you can carry all the pouncers while flying). The running take off is annoying, especially since pterosaurs didn't need it to fly, maybe in the TLC it and Thal will be made more like real pterosaurs and just need to jump to take to the air.
I feel like Achillo should at least be high B-tier. The claw and bite combo can be very deadly, and it could honestly take down sub apexes. It has very good survivability, I think it just doesn’t get enough love from the community.
Im not gonna lie im kinda shocked cerato is in A i feel like it was more so a nerf since most of their stuff activates when near a corpse. sure it has juke and swerve to help with turn speed but it got rid of kick and armor tail. It feels like a B kr c tier at most idk how other people think of the tlc if it should get its kick back
I think swerve and juke are fair trades to losing armored tail and kick. It wins fights it used to lose due to turn speed. Swerve has one of the best hitboxes in the game. The knockback headbutt, lunge(?), also negates stomps. The corpse related abilities are however an absolute bait.
From my experience its an easy low S high A tier. The shove gives it actually insane mobility with the bonus of CANCELING stomp. Despite the damage nerf using thrash and bite still dishes out consistent damage, even swerve is ok despite not being my goto. 900 health or a huge dmg boost for hides really helps it be that little bully. From my experience a cera can consistently win 1v2s against other midtiers and pose a threat to larger dinos with its better mobility and bulk theres nothing aside from probably hatz that troubles a cera
@@kaponofalconer831 I think thal kinda stayed in an OKAY position mainly due to its ability to just sit above things and peck, I’ve had more fun playing Thal than Hatz, but I can see why people would prefer Hatz! I prefer the mobility honestly, but I do think Thal needs love
Ive just started the game so i don't really have an opinion on what should or shouldn't be where but as ive played as all the raptors in the game so far I will say that having more small herbivores to hunt and play as would be great. Also having something like halszkaraptor would be very cool. Having more tiny playables would mean your less likely to encounter giant apexs. So dinos like eoraptor, sinoseroptyrx, protoceratops, psittacosaurus, liaoningosaurus, stegoceras. It will really help the feeling of no damage when there is more in your weight class that you can do damage to. Edit: also Anurognathus cos it's adorable
I’m a newer player to the game, about 2 weeks in. I main Hatz and to rank it in D feels off, because as I said i’m a newer player who mains Hatz. I see a lot of people saying it has a high skill ceiling but is hard to play if your newer or casual and I disagree, it’s literally one of the easiest dinosaurs that i’ve played IMO, glass cannon, low health and defense but extremely high damage output. I’ve won about 90% of my fights, from small carnivores, to other hatz, to killing titans and spinos, rexs occasionally too. I think it’s ATLEAST b tier as it’s a great PvP pick for solo players, not to mention it grows fast due to mobility around the map. ALSO, this is NOT a self promotion but I have multiple clips of me winning 1v3s etc uploaded, and like I said keep in mind i’m only about 2 weeks into the game
I mostly play community servers with the glowplume. I love the glowplune so much but the stamina debuff of its noxin is so bad i still get chased down. Honestly if they made a semi aquatic more reptilian glowplume
Rex is an S tier? Do you play rex on offical severs. Solo Rex is a nightmare since the bone break reword. Mid tiers chop you down with no worry of you cathing them. Come on man
Achillobator is amazing if u play with other raptors, not so good agaist smaller donos but if he can pounce on a dino, it will shred the dino, it is amazing at destroying apex groups of dinos, you can solo a rex with it
HyndaDaCrazy recently released a video where he shows how good raptor packs can be! Including a bit where an achillobator deals 1/4 of a titan’s health PER HIT WHILE POUNCED.
Achi is an S tier imo, it has some of the best turnings ingame, has speed and kick, can deal with apexes easily, can jump and deals bleed, conc would be A tier for me for the fact that you can abuse its turn to destroy almost any apex, i would put pycno on D tier since its really easy to tailride, and when it get tailridden its easy to kill, and hatz would be S tier if it had better acceleration It would be perfect, it literally has an attack that can 8 tap a rex
@@Lord_Spinosaurus I can see where you are coming from! I think Achillo has a few diverse points, I see a few disagreeing and agreeing, conc I do think is good, extremely squishy compared to its peers however
Was waiting so long for this lol. Also, I do think duck is good, but that tail attack needs damage. It's so brutal. When there's multiple dinos after you and you're caught on land, literally a thal could chase you down and your tail would still struggle to kill it. For a massive playable with only damaging frontal attacks and no stomp, it starts to struggle. It's almost worse against smaller/midsized dinos than large dinos. At least titans, Rex's, spinos, bars, ect are kinda forced to trade dmg with ypu and can't get behind you as easy
This is just me, but I really think that only some creatures should have received kb on their tail attacks. For example, Rex, Spino, and Tyranno are fine with their current tail attacks with the kb. However, creatures like Allo, Dasp, Bars, and Deinoc, shouldn't have kb to their tail attacks. I always thought that it looked a little goofy seeing a Daspletosaurus knock back a Spinosaurus by only using its tail lol. I feel like Bars should have kept the damage on its tail attack as well, as that's one of its main weapons to fight Apex's. Tail Slam is the only good thing now to it in terms of damage
How we feelin about the Achillobator? The 3rd Raptor, is it viable? I had a decent time grinding it to ado today but I gave up trying to take down an adult dino because I didnt feel like I was doing meaningful damage
I like these videos, they're cool and all, but I can't help but see this one as unviable since a lot of the evaluation is based on the dinosaurs' performance in (and against) groups, which affects the rating drastically. I think it'd be a good idea to make a second list for the solo experience. After all, most players spend more time solo than in a group.
Megalania needs a better tlc, the venom dosent really do much and feels real weak. the devs should either up the stam drain + need an ability slot to increase the stam drain or change it into like the mira being certain hp kills it kinda thing
I look forward to the day they give TLC to thal, i still remember when they left a blank voice slot for ages when it was released, with NOTHING to bind to it. The skillset is very very limited, it only has a SINGLE attack, and no skills for movement whatsoever like rhamp. Whether a wing beat, barrel roll, even just a non damaging boost in the air like rhamp has, or a set of voices, ANYTHING, and I'd be happy.
Man, I’m looking forward to hatz and Spino tlc just because their models will get amazing glowups. I really hope Hatz gets a crazy bulk up, because it was the heaviest Azhdarchid and it just looks so skinny.
I also wish Hatz would get more fluff to it, as it really only has a weird small patch of fur on its chest atm lol. Would love if it had some more fluff to it like Quetz has on its neck and such
Some disagreements I have Megalania= b or c Anodontosaurus= s Kentro= a Stego= a Hatze= b Eurhino+kai= c Miragaia= a or s And possibly moving spino to low s tier
@@p1gssa those are some fine changes I’d say! Looking through at everyone’s opinions on hatz I’d probs move it to low B Curious on why stego is quite low! Would love to know why, although I’d assume it’s because it’s got very little abilities and is plagued with stam issues?
Stego is quite low because I don’t find it that fun to play, and its design isn’t that good. And I also find some speed issues but I’ll think I’ll move it to a with some of the points you made
5:40 metri and all venom dinosaurs should affect your thirst or hunger bars. Where if you stack venom it causes Dino’s to puke and either starve out or dehydrate forcing Dino’s to either A. Stop the fight to feed or drink or B. Be more aggressive and try to end the fight as soon as possible. Combat weight should dictate how badly the venom or poison affects your Dino lower combat weight would kill you very quick and higher combat weight it’s only an inconvenience and you’re more likely to die from repeated attacks than being intoxicated to death Poison should only affect Dino’s that bite at the metri not attack it in general like a bars biting the metri the bars should take damage but if a pachy headbutts it the pachy doesn’t take poison damage. I would also make it that Dino’s with bleed active are more affected by venom/poison
Metri being a dinosaur who slowly starves its prey away by draining their hunger would actually be so fun to play lol. For me, Meg's venom should stop stam regen, slow you, and drain stamina
@@VelocciYT seriously! I’m going to try and suggest it on the path page, doubt they will listen but hey it’s worth a shot I really want this game to succeed
Allo is very strange because it absolutely is A Tier in a group. However it is the worst dinosaur solo. Every other dino either boasts stronger mobility or better killing power. The rest of the dinos can reasonably kill Allo in a 1v1 situation, and that's really bad. I think the Sty and Meg matchups are great examples, where both can chase down Allo and out maneuver it. I don't think group play is a good measurement because any 6 dinos together can kill everything else regardless of balance.
@bradenhoefert2109 Dasp and Cerato are pinnacles of how dinos should be balanced. Strong abilities with decent counters. Allo truly feels like the oldest member of the cast. It feels like the devs refuse to update it until they add grapple to the game, and I honestly would be less surprised if AI dinos and a new map arrived first
@@PythonicMethod I would love AI dinos but I think we’ll see the Allo TLC before then. However, I have a feeling we’ll see a Rex TLC before Allo. The Allo mains will really be howling then…
I personally think that Hatze is a S and can defeat large dinosaurs, but Pycno is the strongest medium-sized dinosaur in the current environment, so I think it will come in A. Metria is also a and will come in b just because it is a carnivore and has recovery, but it will be about A+ because it has group recovery and 30% attack down and can also take down Alberta.
Am a apex main and am looking for a mid tier to main to have something faster am trying to choose form cera or dasp or mat allo but mainly form cera or dasp with you say in your opinion
I agree with lambeo being s tier, I’ve taken out juvenile rexes with it, as well as dilos and tons of other medium carnivores And do you know the secret, rodeo kick
@ person on the path subreddit who makes a lot of campto posts, including ones asking for its tail attack back If you’ve seen a clip of a solid pink campto, that was probably made by tanky Idk if they’re that well known outside of Reddit though
I remember the first time I played the lamb tlc and got in to a fight with a solo allo, the allo immediately regretted fight me as I crushed his skull.
I was playing the defense allo and I thought I could hunt the tlc lamb. It proceeded to spend the next 30 minutes retreating to heal then coming back for another round. I almost uninstalled for that, I'm so glad they changed the subspecies bonuses
@@VelocciYTHey Velocci, I have a modded playables tier list that you can use if you're interested! I have been updating it for about 3 months so far and try to update it as frequent as I can. It is called: *"Path of Titans Modded Playables Tier List"* Just saying this in case you don't find or have a full tier list of the modded creatures ready 😊
As a main hatz player I can say you are correct, it would not be right for a flyer to have such poor acceleration, what should be done with a hatz would be to use the damage reduction ability in 75% before entering combat and using stab and running away, wait for combat cooldown and try not to get hit more than once and don't attack first (Against apex) I'm waiting for a hatzegopterxy' TLC , even the quetzal is better in terms of gameplay, if the clamp was less time consuming (like the sarco), if the acceleration was better, if it could use the peck in the air (without gaining stamina) instead of the wings, if it and thala had a more realistic flight like the ptera from The Isle it would be great
Hatzgopteryx is good I picked up raptors and dropped them to the ground then my teammates swoop in and peck them to dead hatzgopteryx is really good in packs a or b their cause in packs but by itself it is c tier
My main problem with achillo is the model it should be more bulky it would look really good in the environment to and the mob boss playstyle is annoying
@VelocciYT I get that, but does the tail attack make a difference if you're faster than pretty much everything in the game? Either way, great vid and a solid tier list! Keep it up!
No way he said a tier is bloated and cheaped out my precious kentro, yet he adds pachy and styrac in there and leaves mah boi in the dust like loose change, I will get my revenge!
I'd personally take Cerato over Dasp tbh but I still dig this list. Tyrannotitan can beat a Rex but if one's good and keeps their head on the Titan then it's usually Rex all the way from my experience.
@@zionburwell5463 I love both Cera and dasp, both very strong currently I think! Tyranno and Rex I do agree depends on who’s utilising either, I think Tyranno is the easier to play from a new player perspective due to it being more free stamina wise
Just wanna bring this to attention maybe velocci can get this out there but the sarco is at 480hp and mean while sty and cerato are at 700hp like I definitely see something wrong with that I love all the stuff they’re doing to the game, but if the Sarco was originally at 800 health, then why ever bother moving it if all the little guys were just gonna get their health buffed
I woudnt place stego at S tier, you can solo it pretty ez with a concavenator or any fast dino with lunge or kick atack, as its tail has a high cooldown and not great agaist dinos who can dmg with a mobility abitlity like the kick atack
@@VelocciYT That's fair, I always saw it as sort of a pickup truck, like a Toyota. Not kitted out to the max, but it's pretty flexible and can take a beating, easy to maintain.
Up to the four minute 37 second mark he was doing good until he put metric at D. Quite possibly one of the most powerful playable in the entire game the only thing that makes it more painful to use is bleed and that’s it.
@ oh yeah 100% one of the most unbalanced dinosaurs in the game in fact he goes fast great stamina it’s DPS is very high because if it’s high damage per second, it has a second life. It’s a great support dinosaur it’s turn is fantastic as well. It has almost everything you could want in a midtier.
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Rex is D tier, tops. Too slow to catch anything. Can’t bone break anything anymore. Other apexes like Tyranotitan outmaneuver it and if the fight doesn’t go their way, they can just leave.
You did pretty good. I'd argue Alio is E tier though. It and Meg are by far the most pathetic right now imo. Both struggle fighting anything, latens especially.
I think laten and deinon when kitted out correctly are great. If you’re going against big dinos, Achillo will be better at pouncing. If you want to be annoying and purely just debuff opponents, Rhamp
@@ThePinheadRapidzPersonally I prefer deinonychus because of its ability to tail-fan double-jump. If you time it right you can actually double-jump again once you have landed, and still retain most of your speed! Though this can’t be done forever as you do lose most of your momentum after the third double-jump.
See, I main Meg, and I’m not crashing out. If you spam walk and run when in circle battles. You out turn every Dino in the game asides from the sty. Concs are not really viable in water either? Megs just simply trash concs in fights. However the conc is more usable with its bleed. I honestly wish they would trash venom and make Meg a bleeder as a competitor to the conc. But in the end I miss old Meg. I’ve also found it’s easier to kill ceras as a Meg since the cera tlc. That kick was their saving grace. And you can even kill achillos, and basically every mid tier if you have the skill for it. But I agree, meg is in a rough spot. I’d love a tlc, but if they wash it over and make it worse like cera then honestly I want them to leave it alone
@@VelocciYT is more health a good or bad thing? I noticed for Styra you said it’s health is going up but it’s a nerf. Not really sure how combat weight works ngl 🫠 Also love the vids!
@ combat weight will lower its attack damage values and increase the incoming damage values, where as health generally means it’s just getting more hitpoints and other stats aren’t effected usually!
I’m ready to be cooked for my tier list. But here are some amendments from while I was editing:
some amendments i made while editing:
metriacanthosaurus = d to c
megalania = d to c
barsboldia = s/a to b
hatzgopteryx = d to c
albertaceratops = b to a
Pycno is A or S tier. I fight sarcos and dasps all the time.
@@imDeify that is fair!
@@VelocciYT The speed and the stamina/health regen rates really shine on Pycno. It's a great dino right now. It actually has really good damage output. I been running crater with my Pycno and Pycno goons on official passive growth servers and pretty much anything on land will crouch to show they are friendly because they know they can't escape the Pycno or its damage. 🐺💜
@ interesting! I might have to give pycno a second shot 👀 I used to love pycno, but after the new tlc I found it hard to properly play it aside from being a small game hunter! Perhaps I was doing it wrong!
Ofc I don’t dislike pycno, I do think it’s decent! :D
@@VelocciYT yeah give it a go! Here's our build: Cracked scutes, headbutt, headslam, juggernaut, thick scutes, braced legs, charge, tail attack for more knock back control and swap between bulldozer and deep breath. Mostly run deep breath though for stamina to run forever.
As a meg main, the fall from grace hurts
Of *all* the carnivores to take away the
tail ability it’s insane they removed Megalania’s considering how monitor lizards will actually use their tails like whips whereas the tails of most theropods are too stiff to weaponize like a whip
It would’ve been really cool if they also Meg’s tail whip had a bleed affect since it can actually cause lacerations to the skin
@@SuprememeCeratosaurus that and now venom is in a pretty tough spot too! It definitely makes it quite a tough one
It's almost unbelievable how they nerfed Meg...
That's what I'm saying, ESPECIALLY PYC, why on God's earth does the least flexible tail in theropoda get the dumbest looking tail attack in the game????
I wish they would add some sort of (tail shed) like takes a certain amount of damage it just falls off. When you bait an attack/turn your tail goes right into attack range. This would eliminate that and you could get like a turn/stam buff maybe 5% till it grows back. Idk could be cool.
Meg is just not luved by devs I swear😭 only neefs lmao and if it does get a update it’s a rebuff like venom which they better make good with its tlc (which again prob won’t come till like next year😭) honestly it jus needs new abilities it can’t compete with the new tlc lol and the model pls new model it hurts me how mid the model is because I love meg and im a meg main🥲
Rhamp is S or I’m crashing out.
@@voidicgamer7838 oh man :(
Atleast I defended rhamph
@@VelocciYTAfter watching I do agree with most things, but it’s understated being able to HALF turn radius or bleed heal.
@ that is true! It is very understated in that regards, especially since I completely forgot about a couple of those things
I’ve forced Titans to safe log from plague on my ramph 😂
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I kinda wish Megalania could use Toxin like Miragaia. So then you can choose between using Heavy Bite for more damage, or a Bite that deals Toxic damage to make your target quicker to kill
@@Kurotitan7125 I think toxin would be great for Meg, although needs to be in a way that’s balanced, maybe less inflicted.
But defos needs something so it’s less reliant on Venom, which isn’t that good atm
@VelocciYT they could scale it based on growth stage, like how they recently did that to fracture.
@@VelocciYT also I want to make it apparent that on the PTB Sucho and Deinocheirus are going to lose a lot of their combat weight and make them mid tiers which doesn't make sense to me
@@VelocciYTMake venom drain stam and OP again 😂😂😂
Thank you dude. All the tier lists were like 6 months or a year old. Appreciate it
@@MorbidSenseOfHumor just have to take it with a pinch of salt! But that’s ofc where I would place stuff!
Just bare in mind lower tiers may not be bad, just might have higher skill curves
Hatz is S tier, the problem is that he is the dino with the biggest skill ceiling and skill floor
@@hellsker3433 I think that’s why I ranked it quite low, it’s not exactly something that you can pick up and have a great time on the first go, it defos requires some time to perfect it.
But that’s equally the same with other lower ranking dinos, they defos are unbelievable in the right hands!
I do think looking back, originally I was too harsh on Hatz
I completely agree! Hatz and Quetz and amazing if you know how to play em ✈️
Hatz is A at least, or S, the players just suck with it, it's hard to play but when you play it well you take down what ever you want
Hatz sheds
Dasp is by far my favorite
Timestamps:
Carnivores:
0:17 Achillobator C Tier
0:42 Alioramus C Tier
01:06 Allosaurus A Tier
01:28 Ceratosaurus A Tier
02:13 Concavenator B Tier
02:31 Daspletosaurus S Tier
03:02 Deinonychus C Tier
03:19 Latinovenatrix B Tier
03:42 Megalania D Tier
04:33 Metriacanthosaurus D Tier
05:37 Pycnonemosaurus C Tier
06:35 Sarcosuchus A Tier
06:52 Spinosaurus A Tier
07:36 Suchomimus A Tier
08:19 Tyrannotitan S Tier
09:03 Tyrannosaurus S Tier
Herbivores:
10:00 Albertaceratops B Tier
10:43 Amargasaurus B Tier
11:24 Anodontosaurus A Tier
12:12 Barsboldia A/B Tier
12:59 Camptosaurus D Tier
13:42 Deinocheirus A Tier
14:14 Eotriceratops S Tier
14:34 Iguanodon A Tier
15:11 Kentrosaurus B/A Tier
15:57 Lambeosaurus S Tier
17:30 Pachycephalosaurus A Tier
18:28 Stegosaurus S Tier
19:16 Styracosaurus A Tier
20:04 Struthiomimus B Tier
21:08 Hatzegopteryx D/C Tier
21:49 Thalassodromeus B Tier
22:30 Eurhinosaurus/Kaiwheka D Tier
23:23 Miragaia B Tier
24:10 Rhamphorynchus B Tier
So one thing I do when playing on official - is just solo survival runs. Which has a much different criteria for success than pvp.
How fast does food/water deplete, how easy is it to find food, can it fit in caves, movement and mobility, movement sound, can it see above the bush line, etc..
Campto and Deinonychus are S tier in a pure survival sense. The ability to run and hide is a defense - even when considering pvp.
@@phaedrus12134 of course! I think when it comes to pure survival those two are great!
But I feel like they should offer more (I mean deinon offers more, but I do think it kinda got slightly more restricted to a meat shield / pseudo-support style, so i personally think laten outshines it)
Campto, good for running yes, but I think since struthi got some love I’d definitely want to see Campto get some love too! It has a lot more potential, and I still greatly miss its tail attack
I appreciate the comment! :D
EXACTLYYYY
This video feels very dependant on what server you are actively playing on, and as a offical server player the experience is so vastly different.
I am inspired however to make my own tier list based on the experience of playing on officals, especially since most of my hrs on path have be solo or pretty much solo in offical.
I am confident in my abilities and have a few favourites who have both risen in power, and fallen from grace.
@@VelocciYT some feedback I’d give for tier lists in the future would be to explain at the beginning what some of the factors you are taking into consideration are.
Are you talking about your experience on community, or offical?
Are you talking about servers with rules or all our death match no rule servers?
What are that servers current stats?
With community servers being able to adjust all of this, and more the experience for all players varies drastically.
It could also be helpful for newer players if you explain the play style more blatantly to summaries them.
Alio is my baby and I stand by that it is a good playable, however it desperately needs a tlc again since it’s currently play style lacks the variety other dinosaurs have been reviving (there are a lot of other dinosaurs that need tlcs rlly bad too)
Alio is good for anything PvP with Dino’s below or at its weight class however when in a group you can take on much larger prey.
Alios hit and run play style is very fun but makes it more restrictive to servers that you have good ping/tick rate on.
Alios often get brought in to kill other Alios so stay vigilant and be aware of patchies bone break, and use the environment to your advantage!
Alio has the speed and agility to get away from larger threats and is pretty good at escaping mega mix packs like on offical. Watch your stam and try to learn when to GTFO! :D
It could also be neat to see you discuss dinosaur stats as is and go over those details and cover some match ups too.
Maybe working through dinosaurs per weight class could help? Going from light to heavy and discussing the player experience of solo and group play, and some notes on how to be a better group player too.
These videos are really helpful for new players and I really appreciate the work you do, while the game is no where near as tutorial and guide starved as the isle there are a lot of helpful tips and tricks you can take away from your guide videos so thanks heaps for all your work!
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@ I appreciate the feedback greatly and I’ll definitely do that going forward for tier lists! And make it clearer!
@ totally understandable! I think tier lists can equally be quite subjective, as you said, based on where the player mainly plays, what they have more experience with and of course personal opinions too.
I think that’ll be the case with a lot of tier lists, but I do think going forward for future ones at the start I’m going to include in the intro the factors I’ve put in for the decisions
him-"ramph is fun because there is more to the game then just attacking people"
also him-"If the microraptor doesn't have an attack it'll just go into C..."
Needs more official sauropods.
Would love Shunosaurus personally
I love Metri because it can take a hit and it does bleed but compared to lamb, it has a 5 minute cooldown on heals and personal heals can't be used in addition to group heals. I believe Lamb even has an ability that decreases cooldown time, so it can essentially heal every 2.30 minutes. I definitely agree that there needs to be either a buff to Metri or a new healer altogether. I also think we need an aquatic party healer. Crab is great, but can't heal in combat which really takes away from it.
@@avengedfatty yeah I think if metri gets more support vocals to be inline with Lambeo it would be even better
Metri doesn't do bleed damage 😅
@@avengedfatty Metria doesn’t deal bleed
@ My bad then, I thought the claw attacks do bleed, but maybe I imagined it xD
@@avengedfatty I wish it did 😭
I understand the way you ranked it but for any solo players out there that want to go explore and mess around in hotspots deinony> laten. If you run laten i guarantee an alio or a struthi will end you sooner or later so if you wanna live solo, be a deinony
@@GuilhermeSilva-xk1vu of course! For exploration I do think movement wise Deinon is great! It allows it to get to certain areas and out of harms way better, combat wise, laten I personally like combat wise, especially against smaller game!
I can see both sides of the deinon laten coin, I think it’s basically one of those ones where there’s a lot to love for each side and usually people have a favourite
The thing with pycno was that it was a small game hunter, post tlc and any small tier can just ankle bite them easily
@@AnUndeadOath that is true, I do think it’s movement abilities help prevent that a tad!
I personally would say microraptor could potentially be B tier with no damage, but only if it has access to abilities that complement an evasive play style (double jumps and/or a pounce de-latch mechanic that lets it jump high and glide away). At the very least this can make it effective at support without the risk of it getting squished
If it doesn’t have that though, I’d put it in D tier primarily because it would just be a far worse ramph that can’t fly, can’t swim, and given how microraptor will likely be slower than much of the roster on the ground, can’t run. It also if it’s a pouncer will need to manage its stamina way more than other raptors because if it can’t jump to glide away or climb, it is toast
@@kotomisadventures9095 I agree with you! I think I was a bit too pessimistic saying it could be a D tier, but I think that was me worrying about a worst case scenario. I do feel like it’ll be pretty solid and be rather feature complete when it releases tho!
@@VelocciYT I share that same fear in the corner of my brain XD
Micro 110% could be the most fun ever, or the biggest letdown ever. But, given the dev team’s tendency to listen to their community when a move is unpopular or controversial, I have hope that micro can be and will be amazing!
…hopefully it can climb rocks too, I’m not sure why trees would be the only things it could climb
Glad Amargasaurus is getting more respect.
Thal getting B while Hatz gets D is INSANE though, should be the other way around.
Tyranno is a good Dino but I struggle every single time to survive as I play as it, I can only eat critters which is not filling and players,and I just end up starving because I’m not fully grown yet. It has a fast hunger drain
agreed, this is the only dino I've found myself either dying to or almost dying to hunger everytime i play. They've buffed the hunger drain once to my knowledge, but it needs another buff. I feel like I don't even have the time to do quests because i'm constantly trying to find my next meal
It's nice to see spino getting some love since most people put it in c Tier due to its movement speed, and it's turning speed, so im gald spino it's A tier as a spino main myself also cant wait for the live stream tomorrow
@GodzillaUltima123 I quite like Spino!
The tail knockback is also quite insane lol
@VelocciYT I'm not surprised with how long and big its tail is, plus the knock back makes sense due to its size and making sure nothing can tail ride it
After it received the tail knockback, it's one of the best large creatures in the game for me lol
This is the first time I've seen Allo so high
The "Mob Boss" playstyle is so dumb for Achillo, you get armor for each small raptor in your group but why not just take more Achillos instead? In the Mob Boss playstyle you become an easy target. In a group of other Achillos you get more weight, power, and survivability.
Yeah people will go for you more if you’re in a pack of smaller raptors as they know you are directly benefiting from it, same as the little guys
Ngl, I think Achillo was supposed to be a pack hunter with other Achillo's, but AG seeing how OP and strong it was in a pack (when it first released) decided to make it into a mob-boss type of creature. That's just what I think
Personally I’d put Allo at C, and I’m saying this as a former Allo main.
Now yes Allo has gotten some MAJOR improvements however because it’s such a “pretty good at all, not specialised” it gets bullied really hard on offical. If you see a solo Allo around it’s common that it’ll die shortly after.
I’ve killed allos on Struthi before. STRUTHI.
Allo currently doesn’t work as a solo playable, and even in groups it can be a hard time.
Allo doesn’t have the speed and turn rate to be able to defend itself against bigger groups, and has a hard time against mega mix packs that happen upon you in offical.
The amount of times I’ve been hunted down and killed on Allo is higher than any other dinosaur I have played. And I MAINED Allo. I have played Allo so much to such little reward since there is sometimes just nothing you can do.
Titans have been a huge problem for allos and with their superior agility.
I love Allo. Me and all my friends LOVE Allo. But god damnit Allo isn’t fun to play on offical. Sometimes in groups? Yeah, but it usually ends the same way.
I need to pick it up again in the future but I think I’ll just wait for the tlc.
I think Allo really needs that TLC, it reminds me of the social media post on the PoT Instagram the other day
Where it was Dasp v Allo who wins? And everyone was commenting about the Allo TLC and how it should get one and that it’s unfair to compare it to Dasp. (Which tbf in the current standpoint it is)
While personally I recently played Allo and I enjoyed it quite well, it’s definitely a lot better than it used to be! I can agree with your placement to put it into B honestly, Allo has been outshone by tyrannotitan
@ yup 100%!
Yeah before Dasps TLC it was still a bit of a easy match up (I mained dasp and Allo around the same time) however I won some match ups then on both of them, currently Allo is lacking a lot of variety in abilities and movement, especially when a bleeder needs to constantly be moving to keep their target bleeding, or to get out of the way after hitting them.
I really hope they get a second head slot since Hatchet would be fun to use if it didn’t leave you so vulnerable.
The hit box for claws is a lot different so itd be nice to have that as an option I think.
Allo can be a fun time but you need to get very lucky on offical and usually need to at least be in a pair, solo is a rough time :,,)
Dasp on the other hand is super good atm, and Allo has been outclassed.
But yeah I saw that post as well, I share that sentiment, the lack of a TLC for Allo makes the current match up (despite the improvements) lacking.
Especially on offical where there are some other things to consider with the lack of rules. I feel like the Solo and Permadeath would treat Allo alright in comparison but that being said (if I remember right) it’s only in North American region atm so my ping is terrible (I’m an Aussie) so it’s been too painful at times to want to spend so long growing something only to have ping issues :,))
You forgot to mention that thal is a semi aquatic too! I also love its broadcast call and skins tho they have less to do with combat viability.
21:27 quetzalcoatlus laughs in the background
@@Uhm-yea...0 I can hear its laughs
Man I think Rex is just lacking not entirely sure where but it just is. It gets beat out by Spino Tyrannotitan and even Sucho it needs improvement and needs it now look I am a bit interested in what a Rex TLC could look like but man playing as Rex doesn’t feel that fun to me
Thal is so much worse than a hatz when it comes to combat, it literally gets killed by 3 barrelrolls. If it would have a bit more health so it doesn't get swated out of the air like a fly, I could see it, but putting hatz so low compared to thal is just criminal. I killed a stego as a hatz, the only thing I kill with thal is fish
I swear like 3 days ago I was thinking someone should make an up to date tier list. And then you dropped this lmaooo thanks velocci you're goated
It’s been on my list for a little while! I thought new year, new list!
Stat changes and TLCs make these obsolete so quick
I feel Thal is too high until it gets a TLC. I love it, but the play is pretty vanilla with limited abilities.
I think it’d be interesting for large pterosaurs like Harxy to get an ability where they can blind large dinosaurs, specially carnivores. Imagine a T-Rex pulling up to one to break it, just for the screen to go black for some 20 seconds. It’d make you think twice just like it probably happened back in the day.
Yes some suchomimus love!! I main sucho for no reason other than they're one of my favourite dinosaurs outside of PoT and I think they're super fun to play as
Taking kick off Cera and armour tail was criminal
Hatz is solid A tier. Huge damage output on big stuff with stab and peck destroys mid and small tiers while giving you back stamina.
You just need to play smart and engage either on cliffs or open spaces, where you can take off easly in case you need to retreat.
Flail and Barrel Roll 2/3 shot any Thal dumb enough to try biting you in the air, and let you hit all the grounded players while staying out of reach.
The only thing you need to worry about are bonebreak and pouncers (which is dumb since you can carry all the pouncers while flying).
The running take off is annoying, especially since pterosaurs didn't need it to fly, maybe in the TLC it and Thal will be made more like real pterosaurs and just need to jump to take to the air.
I feel like Achillo should at least be high B-tier. The claw and bite combo can be very deadly, and it could honestly take down sub apexes. It has very good survivability, I think it just doesn’t get enough love from the community.
Puting metri in d tier is an actually crime i have been wiping the floor with ceratos as metri lately, its definitely alot better then people think
It's great until you get a stack of bleed or venom on you, because then you can't heal and get that second health bar lol
Mind I do want to add, I did move it up to C as I even admitted in the edit I was too harsh on that.
Against non bleeders definitely, I was able to 1v2 some Ceratos while having 30 percent health left.
Im not gonna lie im kinda shocked cerato is in A i feel like it was more so a nerf since most of their stuff activates when near a corpse. sure it has juke and swerve to help with turn speed but it got rid of kick and armor tail. It feels like a B kr c tier at most idk how other people think of the tlc if it should get its kick back
I think swerve and juke are fair trades to losing armored tail and kick. It wins fights it used to lose due to turn speed. Swerve has one of the best hitboxes in the game. The knockback headbutt, lunge(?), also negates stomps. The corpse related abilities are however an absolute bait.
From my experience its an easy low S high A tier. The shove gives it actually insane mobility with the bonus of CANCELING stomp. Despite the damage nerf using thrash and bite still dishes out consistent damage, even swerve is ok despite not being my goto. 900 health or a huge dmg boost for hides really helps it be that little bully.
From my experience a cera can consistently win 1v2s against other midtiers and pose a threat to larger dinos with its better mobility and bulk theres nothing aside from probably hatz that troubles a cera
I'm surprise you decided to put Thalasso in B despite the lack of love it has from devs & players. I expect it to be in F tier because of that.
@@kaponofalconer831 I think thal kinda stayed in an OKAY position mainly due to its ability to just sit above things and peck, I’ve had more fun playing Thal than Hatz, but I can see why people would prefer Hatz!
I prefer the mobility honestly, but I do think Thal needs love
I agree that Thal is best OG flyer but found that Trope is better until Thal gets some love.
Ive just started the game so i don't really have an opinion on what should or shouldn't be where but as ive played as all the raptors in the game so far I will say that having more small herbivores to hunt and play as would be great. Also having something like halszkaraptor would be very cool. Having more tiny playables would mean your less likely to encounter giant apexs. So dinos like eoraptor, sinoseroptyrx, protoceratops, psittacosaurus, liaoningosaurus, stegoceras. It will really help the feeling of no damage when there is more in your weight class that you can do damage to.
Edit: also Anurognathus cos it's adorable
I’m a newer player to the game, about 2 weeks in. I main Hatz and to rank it in D feels off, because as I said i’m a newer player who mains Hatz. I see a lot of people saying it has a high skill ceiling but is hard to play if your newer or casual and I disagree, it’s literally one of the easiest dinosaurs that i’ve played IMO, glass cannon, low health and defense but extremely high damage output. I’ve won about 90% of my fights, from small carnivores, to other hatz, to killing titans and spinos, rexs occasionally too. I think it’s ATLEAST b tier as it’s a great PvP pick for solo players, not to mention it grows fast due to mobility around the map.
ALSO, this is NOT a self promotion but I have multiple clips of me winning 1v3s etc uploaded, and like I said keep in mind i’m only about 2 weeks into the game
Playing megalania is like playing dark souls.
I mostly play community servers with the glowplume. I love the glowplune so much but the stamina debuff of its noxin is so bad i still get chased down. Honestly if they made a semi aquatic more reptilian glowplume
Rex is an S tier? Do you play rex on offical severs. Solo Rex is a nightmare since the bone break reword. Mid tiers chop you down with no worry of you cathing them. Come on man
Important consideration for Alberta versus Styra: Styra is grabble but Alberta is not.
That’s a good point! And sty is about to get some hefty nerfs
Achillobator is amazing if u play with other raptors, not so good agaist smaller donos but if he can pounce on a dino, it will shred the dino, it is amazing at destroying apex groups of dinos, you can solo a rex with it
HyndaDaCrazy recently released a video where he shows how good raptor packs can be! Including a bit where an achillobator deals 1/4 of a titan’s health PER HIT WHILE POUNCED.
@@Daisy-ou3ts sadly people avoid playing as small raptors, even tough they are insane
Achi is an S tier imo, it has some of the best turnings ingame, has speed and kick, can deal with apexes easily, can jump and deals bleed, conc would be A tier for me for the fact that you can abuse its turn to destroy almost any apex, i would put pycno on D tier since its really easy to tailride, and when it get tailridden its easy to kill, and hatz would be S tier if it had better acceleration It would be perfect, it literally has an attack that can 8 tap a rex
@@Lord_Spinosaurus I can see where you are coming from!
I think Achillo has a few diverse points, I see a few disagreeing and agreeing, conc I do think is good, extremely squishy compared to its peers however
Was waiting so long for this lol.
Also, I do think duck is good, but that tail attack needs damage. It's so brutal. When there's multiple dinos after you and you're caught on land, literally a thal could chase you down and your tail would still struggle to kill it. For a massive playable with only damaging frontal attacks and no stomp, it starts to struggle. It's almost worse against smaller/midsized dinos than large dinos. At least titans, Rex's, spinos, bars, ect are kinda forced to trade dmg with ypu and can't get behind you as easy
I think the sad thing is, most apexes now will just have knockback and no tail damage :(
This is just me, but I really think that only some creatures should have received kb on their tail attacks. For example, Rex, Spino, and Tyranno are fine with their current tail attacks with the kb. However, creatures like Allo, Dasp, Bars, and Deinoc, shouldn't have kb to their tail attacks. I always thought that it looked a little goofy seeing a Daspletosaurus knock back a Spinosaurus by only using its tail lol. I feel like Bars should have kept the damage on its tail attack as well, as that's one of its main weapons to fight Apex's. Tail Slam is the only good thing now to it in terms of damage
How we feelin about the Achillobator? The 3rd Raptor, is it viable? I had a decent time grinding it to ado today but I gave up trying to take down an adult dino because I didnt feel like I was doing meaningful damage
I like these videos, they're cool and all, but I can't help but see this one as unviable since a lot of the evaluation is based on the dinosaurs' performance in (and against) groups, which affects the rating drastically. I think it'd be a good idea to make a second list for the solo experience. After all, most players spend more time solo than in a group.
I’ve been maining conc & lamb recently and love it
Megalania needs a better tlc, the venom dosent really do much and feels real weak. the devs should either up the stam drain + need an ability slot to increase the stam drain or change it into like the mira being certain hp kills it kinda thing
T-Rex has only recieved nerfs, there has been no new skins, no remoddles, nothing. It's long overdue for some love and attention.
I really don’t like playing Rex because I’m bad at it.
I look forward to the day they give TLC to thal, i still remember when they left a blank voice slot for ages when it was released, with NOTHING to bind to it. The skillset is very very limited, it only has a SINGLE attack, and no skills for movement whatsoever like rhamp. Whether a wing beat, barrel roll, even just a non damaging boost in the air like rhamp has, or a set of voices, ANYTHING, and I'd be happy.
I really hope they bless Thal with the TLC soon
@VelocciYT I really do, poor guy has been overshadowed by trope recently.
Man, I’m looking forward to hatz and Spino tlc just because their models will get amazing glowups. I really hope Hatz gets a crazy bulk up, because it was the heaviest Azhdarchid and it just looks so skinny.
Me too!!!!
I also wish Hatz would get more fluff to it, as it really only has a weird small patch of fur on its chest atm lol. Would love if it had some more fluff to it like Quetz has on its neck and such
@ yeah, poor guys got Alopecia and anorexic. Just missing so much mass on it.
@@andrewmolek5247What a comparison!😂😂
Some disagreements I have
Megalania= b or c
Anodontosaurus= s
Kentro= a
Stego= a
Hatze= b
Eurhino+kai= c
Miragaia= a or s
And possibly moving spino to low s tier
@@p1gssa those are some fine changes I’d say!
Looking through at everyone’s opinions on hatz I’d probs move it to low B
Curious on why stego is quite low! Would love to know why, although I’d assume it’s because it’s got very little abilities and is plagued with stam issues?
Stego is quite low because I don’t find it that fun to play, and its design isn’t that good. And I also find some speed issues but I’ll think I’ll move it to a with some of the points you made
I like that it has juke, but not a full 180. maybe only a 90 degree turn
8:19 Literally what I said. Tyrannotitan sets an example of what an apex should be. Rex tlc when?
I hope a Rex tlc one day
what server are you doing 2v2s in i see in the background i rly wanna play with my friend on it
Cool Tier list! Hope they buff sarco🤞🏻
@@mysticceiling it’d be nice to see some extra stuff!
5:40 metri and all venom dinosaurs should affect your thirst or hunger bars. Where if you stack venom it causes Dino’s to puke and either starve out or dehydrate forcing Dino’s to either A. Stop the fight to feed or drink or
B. Be more aggressive and try to end the fight as soon as possible. Combat weight should dictate how badly the venom or poison affects your Dino lower combat weight would kill you very quick and higher combat weight it’s only an inconvenience and you’re more likely to die from repeated attacks than being intoxicated to death
Poison should only affect Dino’s that bite at the metri not attack it in general like a bars biting the metri the bars should take damage but if a pachy headbutts it the pachy doesn’t take poison damage.
I would also make it that Dino’s with bleed active are more affected by venom/poison
@@DOOMMARINEUwU think effecting hunger would be huge, venom at the moment is in a terrible spot, really hampers venom based dinosaurs massively
Metri being a dinosaur who slowly starves its prey away by draining their hunger would actually be so fun to play lol. For me, Meg's venom should stop stam regen, slow you, and drain stamina
@@VelocciYT seriously! I’m going to try and suggest it on the path page, doubt they will listen but hey it’s worth a shot I really want this game to succeed
1 hour ago vid, love your vids man, keep up the work
Thank you!
I was like “where’s denio” and then I realized it’s just a mod
Allo is very strange because it absolutely is A Tier in a group. However it is the worst dinosaur solo. Every other dino either boasts stronger mobility or better killing power. The rest of the dinos can reasonably kill Allo in a 1v1 situation, and that's really bad. I think the Sty and Meg matchups are great examples, where both can chase down Allo and out maneuver it. I don't think group play is a good measurement because any 6 dinos together can kill everything else regardless of balance.
Yeah I can kill Allos relatively easily with my Dasp and my Cerato. Even with my Achillo. I’d give it a C, tops. Lack of turning kills it.
@bradenhoefert2109 Dasp and Cerato are pinnacles of how dinos should be balanced. Strong abilities with decent counters. Allo truly feels like the oldest member of the cast. It feels like the devs refuse to update it until they add grapple to the game, and I honestly would be less surprised if AI dinos and a new map arrived first
@@PythonicMethod I would love AI dinos but I think we’ll see the Allo TLC before then. However, I have a feeling we’ll see a Rex TLC before Allo. The Allo mains will really be howling then…
I personally think that Hatze is a S and can defeat large dinosaurs, but Pycno is the strongest medium-sized dinosaur in the current environment, so I think it will come in A. Metria is also a and will come in b just because it is a carnivore and has recovery, but it will be about A+ because it has group recovery and 30% attack down and can also take down Alberta.
Yes I needed anouther one of these
@TheRealKimbers hopefully it lives up to standard
@VelocciYT so far it has Ps by every new year if you have the time do one of these so its fully up to date
Am a apex main and am looking for a mid tier to main to have something faster am trying to choose form cera or dasp or mat allo but mainly form cera or dasp with you say in your opinion
Dasp is crasiy
@ what the best build for dasp
Can you do a tier list video of all mod dinos and add them into the current one too?? That would be awesome and very useful
@@BTrillJ I’m unsure, as I haven’t played all the mods properly
@@VelocciYT *In Darth Vader voice* NOOOOOOO!
I agree with lambeo being s tier, I’ve taken out juvenile rexes with it, as well as dilos and tons of other medium carnivores
And do you know the secret, rodeo kick
I’m just upset that they wanted to essentially make campto the Kangaroo of Pot yet they couldn’t give it smth like a kick
Laten is much better than Deinonychus but Deinonychus is so much more fun
@@dk9251 I would agree with this!
Reluctantly, me too…
Campto just needs its tail attack ability back. It used to be a menace with it.
@@Ayacaracal it really does, would shoot up the list if it kept the tail attack
Tanky is that you??
@@spinosaurus_aegyptiacus_yt Who? XD
@ person on the path subreddit who makes a lot of campto posts, including ones asking for its tail attack back
If you’ve seen a clip of a solid pink campto, that was probably made by tanky
Idk if they’re that well known outside of Reddit though
Tier list on the modded roster like Carch and PT rex?
I remember the first time I played the lamb tlc and got in to a fight with a solo allo, the allo immediately regretted fight me as I crushed his skull.
I was playing the defense allo and I thought I could hunt the tlc lamb. It proceeded to spend the next 30 minutes retreating to heal then coming back for another round. I almost uninstalled for that, I'm so glad they changed the subspecies bonuses
Bought the game a couple of days ago so this is perfect
Are you going to do a tier list with the path of titans mobs🤔🤔
@@AkeLovety I want to stream that
@@VelocciYTHey Velocci, I have a modded playables tier list that you can use if you're interested! I have been updating it for about 3 months so far and try to update it as frequent as I can. It is called: *"Path of Titans Modded Playables Tier List"*
Just saying this in case you don't find or have a full tier list of the modded creatures ready 😊
As a main hatz player I can say you are correct, it would not be right for a flyer to have such poor acceleration, what should be done with a hatz would be to use the damage reduction ability in 75% before entering combat and using stab and running away, wait for combat cooldown and try not to get hit more than once and don't attack first (Against apex)
I'm waiting for a hatzegopterxy' TLC , even the quetzal is better in terms of gameplay, if the clamp was less time consuming (like the sarco), if the acceleration was better, if it could use the peck in the air (without gaining stamina) instead of the wings, if it and thala had a more realistic flight like the ptera from The Isle it would be great
Hatzgopteryx is good I picked up raptors and dropped them to the ground then my teammates swoop in and peck them to dead hatzgopteryx is really good in packs a or b their cause in packs but by itself it is c tier
Problem with the iggy, cant run and attack at the same time so it has mobility issues.
Yeah that is a good point!
5:17 THE DEVS HATE OUR CARNIVORE HEALER
My main problem with achillo is the model it should be more bulky it would look really good in the environment to and the mob boss playstyle is annoying
Campto E tier is criminal, it's a pocket apex 🤷♂️
As much as I want it higher, I have to accept that since they removed its tail attack it’s a shadow of its former self
@VelocciYT I get that, but does the tail attack make a difference if you're faster than pretty much everything in the game? Either way, great vid and a solid tier list! Keep it up!
Thanks for the tier list! Gr8
@@Tungradian my pleasure!
Thank you for the new Tier List Update 2025 👏
My pleasure!
i want rhamp to deal damage to micro and viceversa so they can be like each other nemesis. that would be so cool 😂
No way he said a tier is bloated and cheaped out my precious kentro, yet he adds pachy and styrac in there and leaves mah boi in the dust like loose change, I will get my revenge!
I'd personally take Cerato over Dasp tbh but I still dig this list. Tyrannotitan can beat a Rex but if one's good and keeps their head on the Titan then it's usually Rex all the way from my experience.
@@zionburwell5463 I love both Cera and dasp, both very strong currently I think!
Tyranno and Rex I do agree depends on who’s utilising either, I think Tyranno is the easier to play from a new player perspective due to it being more free stamina wise
Just wanna bring this to attention maybe velocci can get this out there but the sarco is at 480hp and mean while sty and cerato are at 700hp like I definitely see something wrong with that I love all the stuff they’re doing to the game, but if the Sarco was originally at 800 health, then why ever bother moving it if all the little guys were just gonna get their health buffed
I woudnt place stego at S tier, you can solo it pretty ez with a concavenator or any fast dino with lunge or kick atack, as its tail has a high cooldown and not great agaist dinos who can dmg with a mobility abitlity like the kick atack
This is a crime against the PoT community. (Im only kidding, except for the fact that ACHILLO IS IN C TIER.)
Hey Squirrel, if albertaceratops was a car, what car whould it be?
I feel like it would be some kind of muscle car personally
@@VelocciYT That's fair, I always saw it as sort of a pickup truck, like a Toyota. Not kitted out to the max, but it's pretty flexible and can take a beating, easy to maintain.
Up to the four minute 37 second mark he was doing good until he put metric at D. Quite possibly one of the most powerful playable in the entire game the only thing that makes it more painful to use is bleed and that’s it.
Matriy strong?
@ oh yeah 100% one of the most unbalanced dinosaurs in the game in fact he goes fast great stamina it’s DPS is very high because if it’s high damage per second, it has a second life. It’s a great support dinosaur it’s turn is fantastic as well. It has almost everything you could want in a midtier.
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@@felixkasotty thank you!!!’ 🙏🏻
my opinion pycno is definitely low A
Rex is D tier, tops. Too slow to catch anything. Can’t bone break anything anymore. Other apexes like Tyranotitan outmaneuver it and if the fight doesn’t go their way, they can just leave.
I agree 100% but people just won't admit it don't know why. Rex an S tier dino is really bad judgement. Questions his brain
You did pretty good. I'd argue Alio is E tier though. It and Meg are by far the most pathetic right now imo. Both struggle fighting anything, latens especially.
I perefer alio in d to
Who do you guys think is the best pounce dino for both herb and carni?
I think laten and deinon when kitted out correctly are great.
If you’re going against big dinos, Achillo will be better at pouncing.
If you want to be annoying and purely just debuff opponents, Rhamp
@VelocciYT Thanks for the reply! I was learning towards the Laten as my favourite I think
@@ThePinheadRapidzPersonally I prefer deinonychus because of its ability to tail-fan double-jump. If you time it right you can actually double-jump again once you have landed, and still retain most of your speed! Though this can’t be done forever as you do lose most of your momentum after the third double-jump.
@@Daisy-ou3ts haha love that bit of information, will definitely give this a go!
MEG main here it should be lower sadly😢 somewhere around E
@@Khanonical oh wow! I thought I was being too harsh putting it in D
Would love to know why you’d put it lower
@VelocciYT venom does absolutely nothing besides give achillo speed boost and how do we forget how to use our tails bruv 🥲
@@KhanonicalMegalania also weirdly gets easily tail-rided as well
@@Kidey11 they keep digging in me🥲😔
See, I main Meg, and I’m not crashing out. If you spam walk and run when in circle battles. You out turn every Dino in the game asides from the sty. Concs are not really viable in water either? Megs just simply trash concs in fights. However the conc is more usable with its bleed. I honestly wish they would trash venom and make Meg a bleeder as a competitor to the conc. But in the end I miss old Meg. I’ve also found it’s easier to kill ceras as a Meg since the cera tlc. That kick was their saving grace. And you can even kill achillos, and basically every mid tier if you have the skill for it. But I agree, meg is in a rough spot. I’d love a tlc, but if they wash it over and make it worse like cera then honestly I want them to leave it alone
As a Dasp main, I take my chances against any dino in the game... and usually walk away with a full belly and trophy loll
Yha dasp can overpoward any 3 2 solt and fastar then half of them
Under 1 min gang
@KingKobra66 ayyy
We need a modded Tier list! such a huge aspect of the game!
@@ConnorKD1876 it is! I’m unsure how I’d do it as I haven’t played all the mods fully
When do the changes from the ptb come out? Because isn’t the Bars getting like a TON more health?
@@Jhohann2204 I would guess alongside the next major update
@@VelocciYT is more health a good or bad thing? I noticed for Styra you said it’s health is going up but it’s a nerf. Not really sure how combat weight works ngl 🫠 Also love the vids!
@ combat weight will lower its attack damage values and increase the incoming damage values, where as health generally means it’s just getting more hitpoints and other stats aren’t effected usually!
22:25 im pretty sure that we will get 1 more flyer after micro
Pycno is really good if you know how to use it but it is harder to learn, also you can’t hit and run well with this game the horrible collision