I don't think &ME copied anything here. Yeah the arp pattern is the same from the 'Visions' track. But guess what? This pattern has been used countless times on countless tracks before. The thing is that the arpeggio is the hook of this track. With scales and chords limiting the harmonic options, it's obvious that the same arp sequence will be spotted every once in a while on different tracks. Come on... We're talking about a 3 step arpeggio sequence here. It's not a 16 bar chord progression... Both tracks are good, but making a big deal out of this is just non-sense. It's like someone claiming copyright for the 4/4 beat signature.
Style07sk it's a 4 step arpeggio by the way, and with the same notes. given the fact that it's sounding the same and woods mimics the progression and tribal groove as well, frankly it's just more than a coincidence.
Yes, it's a 4 step sequence, typo detected. It changes virtually nothing, the way I see it. A 1/16th 4 note sequence for one bar loop when you have only 7 available (if you're doing it by the scale) where from that 7 notes you will most likely pick the tonic ones (1st, 5th and 4th in whole tones) leads to this. So with this in mind, even if you transpose up or down, the same sequence has a big chance of being used because of the relationship between the notes, and you can verify this in every scale. What I'm trying to say here is that you have limited options if you're doing things by the book, and from all the choices you could make, there's this one or two that sound better. I bet that if the arp was running behind a string chord progression or if this track had a hook lead, nobody would be talking about it. Further more, if things were like that, in the 80's/90's when roughly 80% of the electronic music was made using the TR-808/909 and with elements like the kicks, snares and hats placed on the same grid position we were doomed with everyone pointing his fingers at everybody. Every chord progression you come up with now has already been used by someone in the past. If you're into this type of things, check out Everything Is A Remix, it's a 3(?) part documentary focused around this subject. Also it goes without saying that this is just my personal opinion on the matter, nothing more, nothing less.
Style07sk thanks man! It was driving me insane reading all these nonsense accusations :D trying to own a simple 4 step "down" arp pattern is just so pathetic. And then "mimics(...)the tribal groove as well"...haven´t they noticed that the tribal groove has always been &Me´s trademark? Kids need to be educated hahaha :D
MoodFreak Kids? you can tell that to your children. not to us. thanks. The notes are the same, it's a 4 note chord, which we played. we don't follow &me's music so we don't know wether he makes tribal crap or not. We don't care. this track was copied from ours. And you will read all about it everywhere quite soon, because i'm tired of little idiots ruining my days here, and because no one was so humble or kind to get back to me about this answer. also very important to notice how &me and Keinemusik are banning and deleting every single comment or person who's bothering them with this matter. cheers, Kid.
Nihil Young also notice how the ones who are bashing on us are only &me's friends and crew. We don't have any supporters or comments from acts or persons we are associated to. makes you think.
From 4:10 to 5:50 that's make this track good, and that's the difference between &ME and 7th star vision zzzz and to remember If 7th star's version is unreleased then it's not "stolen"... It's not copyrighted. Peace.
I somehow know Less Hate aka Nihil Young and I know that most you know who is that guy and this track is track from his project 7th Star and you can listen to it here soundcloud.com/7thstar/7thstar-visions
It's really adorable watching people argue about music that clearly don't know what they're talking about. There's no theft that happened here, it's a three-note arp pattern. The patches don't even sound the same. Shut up and enjoy whichever song you like.
I can’t believe it took me 8 years to get to know this track 🔥 what a masterpiece What’s the genre of this track? Is it deep techno, organic house, progressive, plz help
this track aint stolen, artists use the same virtual synthesizers which contain the same arps. the arp is literally the only thing simelar with the track its "stolen" from. using a synth doesnt give you a patent on the arp.. besides that this track is awesome!
If the idea for this song was copied by &Me then that's a bit shitty, but having listened to the so called "original" I can say with complete confidence that &Me's version is far far better, everything about it is just a better version
I listened both tracks and imo i can't say this is a direct ripoff ok they have some same patterns but many tracks in electronic music are the same/familiar so what? &me is a top quality producer he doesn't need to copy so your accusations are serious you can't accuse a producer saying that stole your track just for some same patterns or because both tracks have similarities so with all respect this isn't making any good for you complaining and complaining all over the internet. Sorry for my english.
+Markies Vandewalle Completely agree. The whole 'stealing' thing is just completely retarded. The only similarity I can see is the arp. Everything else is completely different - this song is a lot darker and much more aggressive (probably that's where the name came from). Even the styles are different. This one is somewhat house, while the 7th Star's Visions is techno... I'm speechless... So many ignorant people... Props to &ME and shame to 7th Star. P.S. Just discovered this song, that's why I'm so late :P
It is not at all the same track, in fact it is seems to be even a different music genre. The music industry is plenty of songs that sound similar, now you say that this artist copied another track because of 3 arpeggiating tones in the same order? I give credit to 7th stars, but I find this to be much better.
I know people are talking about this ripping 7th star but anyway - does anyone know of something thats come out/been played a bit in the past few months that sounds a lot like it/both? Cheers!
Honestly, the 7th star track doesn't even sound as good as this. I don't know what is the problem, even if stolen, this version is enhanced and better. TBH doesn't even sound that similar.
Everything in electronic music is a copy of a copy of a copy! EVERYTHING, the 7th star tune wasn't anything new. I didn't read Giorgio Moroder crying because thounsands of Djs used his basses & identical Arps. You "7th Star" could be proud to sound similar to &Me. Just work hard if you think your music is better and the success will come. The good music don't come by friends or money.
+Tech Mix Sensations i don't give a shit about this dumb fuck, you think i should be PROUD? what is he quincy jones? get real people. everyone is an overrated crap looper with a pirated vst and you clearly give these guys too much credit.
lol, this is about 10x better than that shitty, shrill sounding 7th star visions track. why do you think your track never got played when you sent it all over to major djs in 2013? ...because it sucks. the arp is barely even close, and thats like 10-15% of the track at most. give me a fuckin break.
+Youhave Tobekiddingme ok andre. take care. or should i call you prince? at least have the decency to show yourself. not yelling behind fake accounts. ;)
+Youhave Tobekiddingme Sorry if i switch accounts. but i do actually work for a living. You are such an imbecile. how old are you? 6? go back to kindergarten you psychotic buffoon. I wonder if you could live a single day of your life without snorting ketamine.
So this &ME is different than the Innervisions Ame? Haha I wonder how many people think that this guy is the same as the Innervisions crew. This is all just getting too confusing, copied songs, copied names. . .
my favourite! the part from 4:10 to 5:50 is INCREDIBLY AWESOME
Definitely.
Bourgeoisie - The Story of Larkin Taftt
I don't think &ME copied anything here.
Yeah the arp pattern is the same from the 'Visions' track. But guess what? This pattern has been used countless times on countless tracks before.
The thing is that the arpeggio is the hook of this track. With scales and chords limiting the harmonic options, it's obvious that the same arp sequence will be spotted every once in a while on different tracks.
Come on... We're talking about a 3 step arpeggio sequence here. It's not a 16 bar chord progression...
Both tracks are good, but making a big deal out of this is just non-sense. It's like someone claiming copyright for the 4/4 beat signature.
Style07sk it's a 4 step arpeggio by the way, and with the same notes. given the fact that it's sounding the same and woods mimics the progression and tribal groove as well, frankly it's just more than a coincidence.
Yes, it's a 4 step sequence, typo detected.
It changes virtually nothing, the way I see it.
A 1/16th 4 note sequence for one bar loop when you have only 7 available (if you're doing it by the scale) where from that 7 notes you will most likely pick the tonic ones (1st, 5th and 4th in whole tones) leads to this.
So with this in mind, even if you transpose up or down, the same sequence has a big chance of being used because of the relationship between the notes, and you can verify this in every scale.
What I'm trying to say here is that you have limited options if you're doing things by the book, and from all the choices you could make, there's this one or two that sound better.
I bet that if the arp was running behind a string chord progression or if this track had a hook lead, nobody would be talking about it.
Further more, if things were like that, in the 80's/90's when roughly 80% of the electronic music was made using the TR-808/909 and with elements like the kicks, snares and hats placed on the same grid position we were doomed with everyone pointing his fingers at everybody.
Every chord progression you come up with now has already been used by someone in the past. If you're into this type of things, check out Everything Is A Remix, it's a 3(?) part documentary focused around this subject.
Also it goes without saying that this is just my personal opinion on the matter, nothing more, nothing less.
Style07sk thanks man! It was driving me insane reading all these nonsense accusations :D
trying to own a simple 4 step "down" arp pattern is just so pathetic. And then "mimics(...)the tribal groove as well"...haven´t they noticed that the tribal groove has always been &Me´s trademark?
Kids need to be educated hahaha :D
MoodFreak Kids? you can tell that to your children. not to us. thanks. The notes are the same, it's a 4 note chord, which we played. we don't follow &me's music so we don't know wether he makes tribal crap or not. We don't care. this track was copied from ours. And you will read all about it everywhere quite soon, because i'm tired of little idiots ruining my days here, and because no one was so humble or kind to get back to me about this answer. also very important to notice how &me and Keinemusik are banning and deleting every single comment or person who's bothering them with this matter. cheers, Kid.
Nihil Young also notice how the ones who are bashing on us are only &me's friends and crew. We don't have any supporters or comments from acts or persons we are associated to. makes you think.
This is pure gold.
i cant believe im finding this after 7 years of its release . What a Fine Creation. Beautiful
From 4:10 to 5:50 that's make this track good, and that's the difference between &ME and 7th star vision zzzz and to remember If 7th star's version is unreleased then it's not "stolen"... It's not copyrighted. Peace.
no se porque estoy aca. pero me rei cuando vi tu apellido parecido al mio jaja
Bullshit argument. Of course it's stolen whether or not the original was "published" before
What’s the name of the other song !?
GTA has once again put me on some good music
Sven vath played this in Amnesia Ibiza back in summer 2015. I was flying on mdma. What a beautiful life.
I somehow know Less Hate aka Nihil Young and I know that most you know who is that guy and this track is track from his project 7th Star and you can listen to it here soundcloud.com/7thstar/7thstar-visions
It's really adorable watching people argue about music that clearly don't know what they're talking about. There's no theft that happened here, it's a three-note arp pattern. The patches don't even sound the same. Shut up and enjoy whichever song you like.
I can’t believe it took me 8 years to get to know this track 🔥 what a masterpiece
What’s the genre of this track? Is it deep techno, organic house, progressive, plz help
Melodic techno with an Afro house twist
this track aint stolen, artists use the same virtual synthesizers which contain the same arps. the arp is literally the only thing simelar with the track its "stolen" from. using a synth doesnt give you a patent on the arp.. besides that this track is awesome!
I dont agree, there is more in common than just this arp
Where’s the other song !?
If the idea for this song was copied by &Me then that's a bit shitty, but having listened to the so called "original" I can say with complete confidence that &Me's version is far far better, everything about it is just a better version
If it's a cover, then give credits to the original. It's as simple as that.
Whats the original?
Pls tell the original
What’s the original
I listened both tracks and imo i can't say this is a direct ripoff ok they have some same patterns but many tracks in electronic music are the same/familiar so what? &me is a top quality producer he doesn't need to copy so your accusations are serious you can't accuse a producer saying that stole your track just for some same patterns or because both tracks have similarities so with all respect this isn't making any good for you complaining and complaining all over the internet. Sorry for my english.
Stolen or not, I think this one is way better than the original
+Markies Vandewalle looool stolen or not !!!!
+Markies Vandewalle Completely agree. The whole 'stealing' thing is just completely retarded. The only similarity I can see is the arp. Everything else is completely different - this song is a lot darker and much more aggressive (probably that's where the name came from). Even the styles are different. This one is somewhat house, while the 7th Star's Visions is techno... I'm speechless... So many ignorant people... Props to &ME and shame to 7th Star. P.S. Just discovered this song, that's why I'm so late :P
yeah, totally agree. dunno if it was stolen but it's much better than 7th star track.
yeah it's got some house/tribal vibes with those bongo/drum thingies.
all that percussion
Musik locker brought me here
Same i was looking for this about 2 days
Same here lmao
Facts
Same
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It is not at all the same track, in fact it is seems to be even a different music genre. The music industry is plenty of songs that sound similar, now you say that this artist copied another track because of 3 arpeggiating tones in the same order? I give credit to 7th stars, but I find this to be much better.
MIN 47:00 DECEMBER 2013
soundcloud.com/byawake/by-awake-podcast-december-2013
played by solomun at tomorrowland
I know people are talking about this ripping 7th star but anyway - does anyone know of something thats come out/been played a bit in the past few months that sounds a lot like it/both? Cheers!
AMAZING!! Love this track. Sets a new benchmark for stolen tracks. Keep on bringing those quality steals ;)
Still a banger! REIMAGINED let's settle at that
Increible, que manera de utilizar una caja de ritmo
better than the original one. stop flame and be thankful for makin it better
2019 immer noch Hammer der Track!!!
2021 and still going strong🔥🔥
Why do ppl keep saying he copied someone’s else song? If so can y’all send me the link to the other song ?
This is Sublime. bruhh. what a fire Tune
Honestly, the 7th star track doesn't even sound as good as this. I don't know what is the problem, even if stolen, this version is enhanced and better. TBH doesn't even sound that similar.
Why Shazam bring me here if i was looking for the song of the stage 1 of Blaster master?
me too!!
this is foking betta bro
Guys, Martin Garrix obviously was the first to make this track. 7th star ripped it of him
Just discovered this one and it doesn't sound like &me at all
i don't know who 's song is but it is really nice thanks
4.15..that's eargasm!!
Woods is a same track and 7th star this is more than 2 years old
Everything in electronic music is a copy of a copy of a copy! EVERYTHING, the 7th star tune wasn't anything new. I didn't read Giorgio Moroder crying because thounsands of Djs used his basses & identical Arps. You "7th Star" could be proud to sound similar to &Me. Just work hard if you think your music is better and the success will come. The good music don't come by friends or money.
+Tech Mix Sensations i don't give a shit about this dumb fuck, you think i should be PROUD? what is he quincy jones? get real people. everyone is an overrated crap looper with a pirated vst and you clearly give these guys too much credit.
If 7th star's version is unreleased then it's not "stolen"... It's not copyrighted. Peace.
+Dániel Gerencsér yes it's copyrighted, and revenge is best served when no one expects it anymore. it'll be fun.
+Nihil Young crybaby of the year in Electronic Music Scene.
Wow, so much negativity! You definitely don't deserve to be recognized after these words! Change you hobby buddy )
Don't trow your words like that! Know how universe works and believe in Karma!
Music Locker
Look for BBC essential mix by solomun, and go to 29th min.. His mix is a lot better
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the best track ever
Definitely better then the original
+Toby cheverton definitely another fake youtube account! :)
7th star unreleased work is.. Well.. Much better?
Well done music industry
+Marco Dumenil I disagree strongly :)
+Blaž Paradiž woah another fake youtube account. and i'm the one who should get a life?
Rockstar has a great taste
Ooohhhh my voyage!
So so GOOD!!
no problem net musik locker room music locker
thanks for copying our track. very flattering to say the least.
soundcloud.com/7thstar/7thstar-visions
more music, less t-shirts and stickers.
Nihil Young that's just pathetic....
AudioMonkeyTV Whatever, sir.
+EstebanEsteban Azuara Rangel stfu stupid troll. another fake google account ;)
+EstebanEsteban Azuara Rangel pathetic pathetic pathetic pathetic pathetic pathetic pathetic pathetic
+Nihil Young ou made all this mess for a reversed arpeggio?really?
Good artists copy, great artists steal. - Pablo Picasso ;)
-Pablo Picasso- *Banksy*
fantastic
Nice track.
Bourgeoisie - The Story of Larkin Taftt
#shazam
Solomun brought me here ♥
His set was soooo good
Hahaha is true
Me too ❤️❤️
I prefer this version
Maddd tune
I like the end of this track a lot
Juliane Wolf- Far Away
Glitches brougth me here 😍
Unfassbar gut und pünktlich für die NOG fertig gewesen.
Gepostet auf: facebook.com/taktgeberberlin
Offstream Berlin soundcloud.com/7thstar/7thstar-visions
das original taugt auch.
Bombaaaaa
💕💕
i think it's waaaaayyy better than the 7thstar track. and it obviously doesnt take a genius to create such a simple melody.
+Jon Khan still a copy! still illegal. and your comment is blatant and useless
@@nihilyoung where can I listen to the "original"?
Aguantiiiia
dale pa
amazing
Meine Güte, manche von euch haben ja echt den Arsch offen...
just found this off a Green Velvet set in 2024 🫶
Ame and Dixon at Cityfox 2015
+ArthurKnoqOut not the same Ame :p
Ame played this though. I know this is &me
+ArthurKnoqOut who and you?
+James Dixon huh
+James Dixon Ame & Dixon are 2 DJs who played b2b
lol, this is about 10x better than that shitty, shrill sounding 7th star visions track. why do you think your track never got played when you sent it all over to major djs in 2013? ...because it sucks. the arp is barely even close, and thats like 10-15% of the track at most. give me a fuckin break.
Youhave Tobekiddingme lol fake profile alert. you don't exist ;)
Frequenza Records
lol i'm very real, good luck with your "lawsuit", your music sucks and always will kid.
+Youhave Tobekiddingme ok andre. take care. or should i call you prince? at least have the decency to show yourself. not yelling behind fake accounts. ;)
Frequenza Records
i legit have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, you're paranoid kid.
+Youhave Tobekiddingme Sorry if i switch accounts. but i do actually work for a living. You are such an imbecile. how old are you? 6? go back to kindergarten you psychotic buffoon. I wonder if you could live a single day of your life without snorting ketamine.
amazing tune
great track
I thought this was stolen from Giorgio Moroder ...
GTA V
hello
Sonus aftermovie got me here!
bomb greetz punkadelique
mario schwedek berlin
freakfrequencies
fanks for tune
Adam Port brought me here or Keinemusik...
voziiiii Miško 😁
viva venezuelaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Anyone looking for the other song this was inspired/reimagined from - ua-cam.com/video/jbbK13ZUHKY/v-deo.html
So this &ME is different than the Innervisions Ame? Haha I wonder how many people think that this guy is the same as the Innervisions crew. This is all just getting too confusing, copied songs, copied names. . .
sophia saze hace 50minutos en él superset que se avento
shazam brought me here when I tried to find the name of the opening song to Detroit: Become Human ...
One república
Dixooooooooon
Damian Lazarus!!!
IDEMO BRANKOUUUU!
dixon @exit 2015 :)
IvannSerbia Dixon everywhere...
Björgvin Friðgeirsson ame @lovefest 2015
IvannSerbia soundcloud.com/7thstar/7thstar-visions
Who cares its a great track i dont care who made it lol...
mucho tema ....
arranca el boliche!!!!
Oh mi dios..
Da disco bar
Da CApo brought me here
COPIED TRACK!!!! STOLEN TRACK!!!! SHAME!!!
really?
+Thilo 117 woah another fake youtube account. and i'm the one who should get a life?
Nihil Young what du you want from me i dont know you :D and what is a fake please?
Confess!
think he means moonwalk - meteora Sounds very similar
Perfect Bass...
clear rip off, the idea of the tune is the same as 7thstar
veeeiiii
Gta 5 Radio station brought me here
same, bro
music locker to be exactly
lucien n luciano
I prefer solomun's version