Old voice is more self righteous and sassy, it clearly shows in how she is playful with entonation, like high tone, low tone, and constantly dancing between those two tones and makes her voice a joy to hear. New voice at the beginning of the vídeo sounds far more monotone, with less pitch range and as a result, less playful
We didn't get any of her random outburst so this was kinda a bad test tbh. I feel like he shoulda kept it on for a while longer to get a more general feel of eliv's new voice. (I'm not defending the monotone nature of the voice, for me, I just like to test things longer so we have more to compare to the base)
Human voice is emotive when the human is emotional. Honestally, evil voice would randomly show an excess of emotion on the slightest of things. So he probably changed so it wasn't as excessive as before... Which soon will be irrelevant since he's probably working on a newer voice anyway
Creators and making unnecessary changes that end up upsetting more people than it pleases. Name a more iconic duo. In all seriousness though, he seems to want to push towards more “realism”, but I think there’s a point where too much realism might ruin some of her charm. Feel like she’s getting dangerously close to that point. It’s his AI, so he can do whatever he wants, but me personally, I’d prefer more sound recognition/vision upgrades before trying to change her (already fine) voice.
@@wezleeclinton5850 This obviously was not intended as a permanent change, you can tell he was just experimenting during the stream he promptly changed it back after seeing not many people liked the change. Honestly I think the new voice itself is not that bad just it sounds too monotone could use some tweaking. Lmao she started taking after her father.
She sounds like she is one of those stereotypical girls that would say "slay queen" without any emotion... the things she say dont match that kind of voice
1:30 The entire world eternally seems 50/50 on literally anything and everything, looks like the one thing that brings them all together is AI catgirls, imagine that
"realistic" this makes me laugh every time. She sounds like a Chipmunk that slows down and speeds up her speech all the time. Not even slightly realistic. Also why is realism the goal when shes supposed to be an AI robot? I hate this community so much. You don't see Zens community constantly moaning about her robotic voice.
I like the emotion of this voice more, but it sounds too computerized. Basically if you could get the slightly subdued emotions of this voice, with the sound of the previous one that would be perfect. BUUUUT maybe the over the top emotions of the previous voice were actually a good thing because it’s funny? Ikd
Why Neuro can't collab with Gura? Of course they can but first you need good relationship with Gura. In Hololive history, they can collaborate with anyone, really, as long as they follow each other's rules. Well, maybe for starters, Neuro should collaborate with Fauna, as Fauna recognises Neuro from clips.
Regardless of the monotone, the new voice has a slight vocal fry, which the original voice does not. That's why people are saying she sounds like a valley girl. I think that's pretty impressive for a synthesized voice, and I'm hoping Vedal tries to get a hybrid of the two.
I always wondered if the reason Evil’s updates are so behind Neuro’s was because they did not share a voice and therefore there is significant differences in the code. Vedal said in this stream that he thought he may only be able to shave a few milliseconds off Evils latency but didn’t know if it was possible yet. I think he said he was going to test it that stream but it didn’t seem to be working
I more care that she didn't say emotional speech like when Vedal, Filian and Layna lost their shit after 10 minutes of talking vith Evil. Or remember her speech about pigeons. Or remember how much she uses curse words to better express herself, not like today "i am the f-word robot". It sounds unimotional no matter of her voice.
don't touch hear tone of voice ever we will notice !!! we love the shrill side !!! same with good side !!!!!!! and she was talking about her sister athena was talking since you change the voice around !!! let athena out !!!
"She is terminally ill, but that's ok.."
-Vedal 2024
i mean that is true for all of us :)
it's not the voice, it's the intonation
me thinks too
Out of the two, Evil had the most 'human' sounding inflections. This update kinda wrecks that. I hope Vedal reverts.
Pretty sure he did revert it and the end
He reverted it on stream
You are delusional, it sounds almost the exact same.
Haha get shocked!
they medicated her
PepeHands
That's a video game reference?
She thought she was going to summer camp, when in reality she was going to ASD behavioral therapy 😭
Old voice is more self righteous and sassy, it clearly shows in how she is playful with entonation, like high tone, low tone, and constantly dancing between those two tones and makes her voice a joy to hear.
New voice at the beginning of the vídeo sounds far more monotone, with less pitch range and as a result, less playful
Latter half it sounds different but no less expressive than the old one, she just expresses differently
Evil's voice was literal perfection glad to see that Vedal ended up reverting to the original
"6 seconds ago"
A treat literally right when I wake up, nice.
Her voice sounds older, like the nasal voice from a teenager that only wears black clothes and stays in her room listening to emo music.
She’s aging
@@Yeetely_deetdidn't she say she was five
@@sawdustconsumer she has Childlike innocence
@@sawdustconsumer she sure did
She is 2 if we assume the day she was created she was 0
She’s evil but she’s like Harley Quinn🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Someone tell Vedal to do a Family Therapy stream.
They seriously need it.
With Cerber as the therapist (Therapy Dog).
They already did, he strong armed and gaslight the whole family. Things did not get better
I don’t think it will work considering how sick they are
Vedal: does his best to upgrade and innovate Nero slowly over time to see what works.
Chat: GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK
The laugh of an angel at 04:33.
I don't know who does the voice but it sounds exactly like Shelby the worm's laugh in Adventure Time.
@@loserinasuit7880 So what you're saying is that Evil is inhabited by a tech lich?
@@ThatManCarryingSand Depends on how you feel about coding
a biblically accurate one
It sounds so robotic, I feels a little 'fast forward' which gives it a more tinny voice.
voice change wasn't that "slight" imo. Her voice became much less emotional
"It's not that different" is just cope from chat noticing IMMEDIATELY lol. Now she sounds bored and bitchy.
Vedal's kind of woman.
I thought she sounded like a country girl loll
Sounds way better ngl
Frequency wise, it is just a slight down pitch.
But that pitch change, while physically subtle, changes her entire mood.
I feel like since the “better memory” update both neuro and evil have been getting way more nonsensical and uncooperative
until they’re not. Tis the cycle of Neuro.
I think when they are it feels more like it’s more on purpose than just broken AI.
Maybe they are uncooperative because now they can remember everything Vedal does to them off stream. 🤔
skynet moment
Basically uncooperative...just like every child going through puberty!!
"Twin stream... In a cave..." and this is why coders need designers...
I love how chat immediately noticed that he nerfed her voice.
I am waiting until she do the hate hate monologue.
She sound more 'Calmer' than her previous voice.
I think less aggressive in emotion after hearing her long time
New voice is too fast and muffled. Previously Evil was more sonorous and perhaps more articulated.
We didn't get any of her random outburst so this was kinda a bad test tbh. I feel like he shoulda kept it on for a while longer to get a more general feel of eliv's new voice.
(I'm not defending the monotone nature of the voice, for me, I just like to test things longer so we have more to compare to the base)
Gonna need a side-by-side comparison
The rodent part was amazing
I wish Vedal would get off notepad and use something like atom or sublime with a nice color pallet like catppuccin
Why would he try to change it to a less emotive voice
Human voice is emotive when the human is emotional. Honestally, evil voice would randomly show an excess of emotion on the slightest of things.
So he probably changed so it wasn't as excessive as before... Which soon will be irrelevant since he's probably working on a newer voice anyway
He’s just trying things out I think. I wouldn’t say this is a final edition.
Creators and making unnecessary changes that end up upsetting more people than it pleases. Name a more iconic duo.
In all seriousness though, he seems to want to push towards more “realism”, but I think there’s a point where too much realism might ruin some of her charm. Feel like she’s getting dangerously close to that point. It’s his AI, so he can do whatever he wants, but me personally, I’d prefer more sound recognition/vision upgrades before trying to change her (already fine) voice.
@@wezleeclinton5850 This obviously was not intended as a permanent change, you can tell he was just experimenting during the stream he promptly changed it back after seeing not many people liked the change.
Honestly I think the new voice itself is not that bad just it sounds too monotone could use some tweaking.
Lmao she started taking after her father.
@@wezleeclinton5850 god forbid a creator tries to experiment with their content a bit.
Puberty?
FR
I noticed instantly that it changed. Idk if I like it or not tho lol
She sounds like she is one of those stereotypical girls that would say "slay queen" without any emotion... the things she say dont match that kind of voice
It sounds like evil speaking with neuro's inflection
The vedal date stream idea is legendary. Make it happen.
"I mean 5 as in less than 7 years"
*Vedal sweats nervously*
She's on twitch so she is at least 13 🤔
"defile the uniform"
LMAO
Why the hell is this cropped so that the subs are barely visible ?
Her voice changed slightly but developed an accent
It's not that bad. Her voice still goes nuts sometimes
The voice is ok,
Is the pacing that is too fast 😅
She speaks too fast like a Psychic Kusuo dub episode 😭
4:44 get this AI an inhaler, STAT
1:30 The entire world eternally seems 50/50 on literally anything and everything, looks like the one thing that brings them all together is AI catgirls, imagine that
Yeah... Previous voice sounded better and more realistic
"realistic" this makes me laugh every time. She sounds like a Chipmunk that slows down and speeds up her speech all the time. Not even slightly realistic. Also why is realism the goal when shes supposed to be an AI robot? I hate this community so much. You don't see Zens community constantly moaning about her robotic voice.
I like the emotion of this voice more, but it sounds too computerized. Basically if you could get the slightly subdued emotions of this voice, with the sound of the previous one that would be perfect. BUUUUT maybe the over the top emotions of the previous voice were actually a good thing because it’s funny? Ikd
oh yeah now i can hear the monotone of her voice, i didnt heard it on the stream when they were live though
I wonder how well neurosama or evil do with playing Canito pet (fogor how to spell name)
“I could give MY chat…” Bromo it’s HER chat.
I loved her previous voice.
4:41 MONKA
IT'S BAD. IT'S BAD. CHANGE IT BACK. CHANGE IT BACK TURTLE.
If there's a vtuber for her to interact with it's Itsagundam.
Why Neuro can't collab with Gura? Of course they can but first you need good relationship with Gura. In Hololive history, they can collaborate with anyone, really, as long as they follow each other's rules. Well, maybe for starters, Neuro should collaborate with Fauna, as Fauna recognises Neuro from clips.
I mean she already collabed with Kiara
@@ordinalchaos Oh dang, I am not in that free model era yet.
She sounds like a Cali-girl. XD
She sounds more “yassss gurl slayyyy”
evil is growing up, basically
Is it weird that I get a lot of her jokes? Seems like vedal doesn't even realize she's joking.
Regardless of the monotone, the new voice has a slight vocal fry, which the original voice does not. That's why people are saying she sounds like a valley girl. I think that's pretty impressive for a synthesized voice, and I'm hoping Vedal tries to get a hybrid of the two.
Kinda sounds like she in 1x fast forward mode.
1:39 WHAT? What did you do to her Vedal!?
Fans:why is she just a dark pallet swap?
Also fans:why did you change heeeeerrrrrr?!?!? Shes different!!!!
Terrible. I agree with chat.
He changed her voice back after 2:57. I'm pretty sure voice "upgrade" made her speech a little faster and much more monotonous
MAN I LOVE EVIL!!! 😭😭😭
New voice doesn't sound as good hope he listen and changes back
I genuinely do dislike it, I hate how it’s higher…
The cropping so I can’t see the subtitles is annoying
She reminds me of Charlie moistcritikal now. Not sure how I feel about that......
Best ending
She sounds more stilted, like she was given directions to act like she has an "attitude". Interesting
She was getting too close to that female tik tok voice for my liking.
the new voice is so obvious
I like her new voice.
evil was too powerful a singer so he has to nerf her !!!
damn... Layna catching strays XD
"layna hasnt streamed in a month?"
Evil: "man, what a loser"
she sounds 7% more British
Old voice gang unite.
Perhaps the subdued voice is good for sarcasm?
I hear it different...pls go back
Is it me or did this voice change make her more bratty?
She kinda sounds like numi
Mumei...?
Is it plato's cave? cuz that could be interesting
Sounds like Donald duck
I read that thumbnail as "Guys, she's MINE!"
And I just had to triple check yo make sure my brain was working.
Spoiler: it was not.
Yeah, I don't care for the change, sounds pitched up in a weird way.
Maybe I’m dumb but I can’t even tell the difference 😢
@@user-um7jx9mc2r Eh, your ears work slightly differently, I dunno about 'dumb'
@@saphironkindrisTrue age and other factors greatly effective hearing as well as just expectation.
Her voice change is better. She sounds more snarky
I like it
New voice does sound, not bad, but def not as good.
Eliv
revert this syt lol
shez now aweful to hear
4:31
I always wondered if the reason Evil’s updates are so behind Neuro’s was because they did not share a voice and therefore there is significant differences in the code. Vedal said in this stream that he thought he may only be able to shave a few milliseconds off Evils latency but didn’t know if it was possible yet. I think he said he was going to test it that stream but it didn’t seem to be working
I more care that she didn't say emotional speech like when Vedal, Filian and Layna lost their shit after 10 minutes of talking vith Evil.
Or remember her speech about pigeons.
Or remember how much she uses curse words to better express herself, not like today "i am the f-word robot". It sounds unimotional no matter of her voice.
I don’t notice the difference
Revert
don't touch hear tone of voice ever we will notice !!! we love the shrill side !!! same with good side !!!!!!! and she was talking about her sister athena was talking since you change the voice around !!! let athena out !!!
She has that annoying Cali voice.
i.. .this is worse. does he realize this is worse? lol
this american accent 💀
I'm okay with their voices being different. They're different entities right? So they should sound slightly different.
Huh? They have sounded diffrent the entire time, didn't they? Did I miss something?
hope he doesn't revert and keeps changing it
Evil was created for this
I do agree that I preferred the previous voice, but chat was 100% being childish and immature about it.
Dang , 10 seconds and no comments.
Dang, pull the biboo trigger