@@NA-sj9jy Are ya sure? because the one in the Kaimanawa had no writing just cracks in a rock no other signs of a temple. Think ya just another story teller
Its caused by plant roots on the boulder, there's tons of examples of this. It doesn't even look remotely like a written language or any form of design. But we can always pretend right!
From an outsider's point of view : I think New Zealand has it wrong! It is the Maori who should apologize to the Moriori and the Crown, not the other way around?
There are no Maori remaining, only part Maori. We are all NZers, I was born here too, of numerous races as are they. Te Pati Maori received only 3% of the vote last election, and none of that could possibly come from full blooded Maori, indeed it is far from a majority of part Maori. Te Pati Maori speaks for no one of any significance as far as I can see, including the majority of part Maori. We have a choice between apartheid or democracy, plain and simple.
Really....actually there are quite a few in almost every iwi. Let's start with the new Maori Queen who is the direct descendant of the previous 8 Maori Monarchs
@@Criticont Did you miss the point I made when you invented that diatribe? We agree Maori is not a race then? There are many cultures alive and well, and languages also, globally for which there is no living representative, eg Guarani. The memories and customs are preserved, even venerated, but have no political power, nor should they. We are a democracy or we are not, no middle ground. One adult is one vote, all equal, no more and no less. Or it is apartheid.
@@tiopirata2 LOL you didn't make any point, just some uneducated nonsense about blood percentages that has ZERO credibility in defining a CULTURE. And you think we are a democracy? Did you miss the FORCED lockdowns we just went through along with all of the illegal mandates?? You seem to miss a lot - get your head out of the sand dummy.
@@carolecarpendale666 But she is not full blood Maori. And as you point out, her lineage to royalty only goes back 7 generations. Even mine goes back further then that.
Australian Aboriginal are truely indigenous people they have been in Australia for 40 thousand years ( approximately) , not just a few hundred years before being conquered by an advanced culture.
That said, Europeans have lived on the European continent for 1000's of years, likely longer than aboriginal people in Australia. Do white people in Europe claim themselves as more worthy of living in Europe?
The only reason they invent the 40 thousand year old aboriginal is because they're using you as backup for the evolution Story, and if you've been around the longest then Your the most closely related to the apes they claim as ancestors. So it's not a 40,000 year old compliment, it's actually an insult.
Indigenous Australians are well documented as being the longest running occupiers of land & continuous culture compared to every other culture on Earth. Its a feat to marvel at.
we are NOT indigenous to AotearoaNZ...we are from Asia...we came from ASIA...eight hundred to a thousand years ago...we voyaged east across the pacific ocean...dna tells us that...SCIENCE!!
800,000 to 1,000 years I'm pretty sure thanks to carbon dating scientists have estimated that we have been in the Polynesian region an estimated around 3,900 years ago
Our species originated in Africa, and as groups migrated, they developed distinct cultures shaped by their environments. It’s essential to differentiate between culture and ethnicity: culture encompasses the customs and practices that arise in particular settings, while ethnicity involves shared traits like language and history. While we all share a common ancestry, our cultural and ethnic identities have evolved in response to the unique challenges and experiences of different regions. This diversity enriches our global community, emphasizing both our shared humanity and the distinct ways we engage with the world. Despite the fact that Maori have ancestors who migrated, their culture developed uniquely here in Aotearoa, reflecting the specific influences of the land and environment they inhabit.
A bit hypocritical that a women that has more Irish ancestry in her then maori thinks she is just a maori and is dishing her other colonial ancestry 🤷♂️
New Zealand IS NOT CALLED "AOTEAROA" by anyone except some Maoris. It is called "NEW ZEALAND" BY EVERY OTHER NATION ON EARTH. Maori DNA PROVES THAT they came FROM TAIWAN, and their own culture and evidence shows that the arrived around 500 to 600 years ago. The EVIDENCE SHOWS that the MORIORI WERE HERE A MINIMUM OF 2,000 YEARS AGO. The Maoris DID NOT HAVE ANY CENTRAL GOVERNMENT OR ONE GROUP of people, and lived IN DIFFERENT TRIBAL ENCAMPMENTS under one Leader, in a dictatorship AS CANNIBALISTIC WARRIORS who were CONSTANTLY at war WITH EACH OTHER. The Treaty of Waitangi WAS A TREATY BETWEEN ALL THE MAORI LEADERS TO STOP FIGHTING for control of New Zealand, AND BECOME ONE PEOPLE, with ONE Government under and part of the BRITISH EMPIRE, with ONE LAW being the Laws set by the DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT of New Zealand based on the British Laws. MANY MAORI ALSO joined the British religions AND GAVE UP ALL THEIR PAGAN GODS. The Maori "Politicians" of the Maori Political Party are RACIST BY NATURE OF EXCLUDING NON-MAORI MEMBERSHIP, and are NOT EXPERIENCED in actually speaking for or making policies for MAORI NEW ZEALANDERS. They oppose a Bill THAT WOULD CLARIFY THE PRINCIPALS OF THE TREATY directly related to ONE Nation, ONE group of people, and ONE set of Laws for EVERYONE.
@@AdamGee-z8q He actually landed on an island that is STILL CALLED "AOTEA" TODAY, and when he climbed up to the top of the extinct volcano crater edge HE THEN SAW ANOTHER ISLAND, being the NORTH ISLAND. The island he landed on HAS A MARKER AT THE SPOT on the beach, and the local Maoris WILL CONFIRM THAT IS WHERE HE LANDED. You can catch a ferry from AUCKLAND to AOTEA ISLAND in the Hauraki Gulf, it takes about 4 hrs by boat, or you can FLY THERE with the Airline with the ENGLISH NAME for AOTEA ISLAND, which is GREAT BARRIER ISLAND. I know that the Maori people ARGUE about almost EVERYTHING and that is because THEY ALWAYS HAVE. It is the MAIN REASON that they were always fighting , killing, and eating each other UNTIL they were STOPPED BY THE ENGLISH SETTLERS.
Totally agree. That "offensive" name was coined by an Englishman. There are NO maori left in New Zealand - look at maori party PACKER -" its" heritage is Irish Mother , half cast Irish father - thats a "maori"?? Lol!!
It's documented by European archeological facts on maori and moriori and historical newspapers and public witness records on scandals greed and cruption by Nz government representatives of the crown ignore there own laws for own empowerment which out lines deception by Nz government and cared for by the Crown ..English queen and country the titirit was signed by both maori and the crown under the titiriti protects us all anyway .
"Aotearoa is actually one of the Māori names for the North Island of New Zealand, and has never included the South Island of New Zealand" And why Ngai Tahu said their territory will never be known as Aotearoa Like the land of the long white cloud was meaning the North Island as they could not see the South Island from Aotea North Island Maori are not tangata whenua in the South Island either and have no special rights here
@@missshante808"Kāi Tahu leader Edward Ellison confirmed recently that Aotearoa was not used in the south; the island was primarily known as Te Waipounamu. He suggested that ‘Aotearoa me Te Wai Pounamu’ was the commonly used term for the two main islands." North and South Island
How is it that those who committed genocide, enslaved others, murdered whole defenseless tribes and cannibalized the Moriori can make demands from the Crown? The Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand, but killed and ate, yes, they had eaten (how is that for civilized?) the Moriori who were the original inhabitants of New Zealand. Now they are calling the Europeans unlawful intruders and are demanding financial restitution from the crown? Who does the Moriori turn to for compensation?
Both Māori and Moriori share a common ancestor, as linguistically they have much in common. Their ancestors likely left East Polynesia from the same region. Moriori are believed to have traveled directly to the Chatham Islands from their point of origin, settling there without further migration.
Moriori didn't settle NZ & what happened to them during the musket wars where some tribes of displaced Maori sailed from Taranaki on a British ship to the Chathams & did some horrendous shit that is a cold hard fact. If your intention is to drop knowledge & inform people then do some due diligence before spreading misinformation.
No shit, Sherlock-we all share a common ancestor. But when it comes to Maori and Mori Ori, they are closely related as Polynesians, especially compared to groups outside of Polynesia. While they are distinct, they share significant cultural and ancestral ties. Historically, when Maori traveled to the Chathams, it was primarily two tribes from Taranaki that engaged in violent conflicts with Mori Ori, resulting in many deaths and even enslavement. It’s crucial to note that we can’t pin this genocide on all Maori, as they were not united at that time; they were divided into different tribes and territories. This division complicated their interactions and should be taken into account. So, while there are differences between Maori and Mori Ori, their connection is much stronger than with any external groups.
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more adjective 1. originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native. "coriander is indigenous to southern Europe" Similar: native endemic local domestic Opposite: non-native introduced imported 2. (of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists. "she wants the territorial government to speak with Indigenous people before implementing a programme" Source, Oxford Dictionary
Of course they were immigrants. They've never said they weren't. You got your own argument wrong. you were supposed to say they aren't INDIGENOUS. Lol.
They didn’t come from elsewhere - their ancestors did and they’ve grown in the garden of Aotearoa. You can have my comments deleted when you’re unable to debate but you can’t kill the facts!
Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more adjective 1. originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native. "coriander is indigenous to southern Europe" Similar: native endemic local domestic Opposite: non-native introduced imported 2. (of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists. "she wants the territorial government to speak with Indigenous people before implementing a programme" Source, Oxford Dictionary.
Yes, deceived are euro_peens and nonMāori trying their utmost to rewrite Māori/NZ history. They are indigenous according to oxforddd. Feeling a tad threatened are we? Why are you folk trying to rewrite the history of first nation Australians, nativeAmericans, indiginous tribes in NewCaledonia, tribes across the entire African continent, BlkAmericans and so on! We ALL see what you's are trying to do and we're not going to allow these lies to gain traction. Trying to tell a lie long enough to the point people will start believing it. That's how you folk work ay? That's what f r e e } mąsons do too. Their little weasels out in force spreading lies and trying to rewrite Māori history. That's what euro_peens did the last time. No this time!! Such unhappy folk you lot are. There are some good paakeha though....but for the most part.
@@malietoasamoa1301 It is, and there's plenty of it to go around. Māori only exists here, and nowhere else. Think of it like a species under threat of going exticnt, it needs ot be protected otherwise its gone forever.
This information will fill in our hidden history gaps... stories and evidence of giants, fairys, shapeshifters and dragons to name a few. If we don't know where we are coming from and how we got here, we lose a great connection and remembering of the source. Leaving us easier to be controlled and not know our purpose or true potential in this human experience 🥸😎🤓
Because by then the Maoris hope to have taken over Parliament by breeding more children to get more votes, there is even a TV clip about 3 months ago of the Maori clown with the face paint saying this to a reporter.
I'm as indigenous as what she is coz i was born here a long time before her or any other Maori much younger than me, for that matter. When i am visiting other countries the locals there often ask, which country i am from, to which i respond New Zealand, (not aotearoa coz they don't know where that is,) therefore i am indigenous to New Zealand as are all my siblings of Scottish descent.
@@tracymichaelsen493 I've never lived in Scotland, i didn't come here from Scotland . I was born in the South Island of this land in 1940 and served as a volunteer infantry soldier in this country's Army when i was 21yo. Don't b/s me.
Someone lives in la-la land. They all forget the clever Maori of the day wanted people to civilise their lawless tribal lifestyle. The last human sacrifice was only in the 1950's. Let's just pretend Maori were farmers and fishermen?
@waenmanson3489 The true haka is the silent one played out behind the scenes and in court rooms. Embarrassing is when the govt constantly loose in their own court and refuse to accept the judgements. Now that's Embarrassing 😳
@@stevo-007 I don't know why you think Māori are claiming to be indigenous to Europe as well. No one in the video said it, not even Terry. I suspect you never even watched the video and just jumped into the white supremacist dogpile.
@@hanzjensen2154 The main difference between the terms "indigenous" and "native" is that "indigenous" implies that something is native and has never been introduced from elsewhere
Keep in mind that this is her constant delusional state. I have literally heard her say that smoking / tobacco legislations are specifically designed to target and kill Māori because they die often of smoking related illnesses. She literally did not take into account any form of self-accountability.
Good stuff, Terry. Could someone dig out a video with the same theme of locked-up historical sites? I viewed it years ago but can not remember the title. It showed a cave that was used by pre-Maori as a burial place. According to legend the bones were crushed and used as a lime substitute. The notable feature of the skeletons was the different shape of skull bones. Apparently in the same vicinity wind arrosion on sandhills has in the past exposed similar skeletons.
@PeteThecurious100 I think it was called Skeletons In The Closet or something like that. Sorry, I can't remember the author. I know it was a woman. I think her first name was Pam. If I remember, I will tell you.
I also question the importance given to who arrived in a place first. That's how children decide who gets the front seat. Did Maori treat each other like that? Is it really fair when it's by complete historical chance that it happened that way, and absolutely nobody earned it. I guess if that's all you really have then thats the drum you'll beat, but you can't exoect everyone else to just go along with it as if it gives you some sort of special position because you happen to, by absolute chance, be their descendents.
Do you also think that Russia deserves to take over parts of Ukraine, even though Ukraine was there first? Or how about I come and move into your house with all my friends? There will be more of us, so therefore it will be ours even though you were there first.
@@drednorzt Maori sold 93% of the country. It's a completely inappropriate comparison. But way to disrespect your ancestors and inflate your own since of victim hood.
@@Hatunrumioc Your making some big assumptions. I'm not even Māori, I'm Pakeha. Māori didn't sell 93% of the land, that is a colonial narrative to justify the taking of Māori land through deceit, bad faith, manipulation and straightup theft. Finally the concept of victimhood is completely made up. Its used by supremacists to justify their position at the top of society. Its claimed to be based on studies of women perceiving themselves in a negative light, but there are no sources given, and no one has been able to find published studies that match the descriptions.
+--14th century chinese imperial court records record a fleet of Chinese junks sailing to every corner of the world including a trip up the waikato and the area was inhabited
@@waenmanson3489 Actually,those records werev featured in a documentary around 24 years ago, including the wreck of a huge Chinese ship ,whose ribs were shown after being exposed on Beach in NZ. Then there was the Tamil ships bell,found in NZ. If the Dutch (Abel Tasman) could sail from Europe to NZ in quite small ships ,why couldn't my ancestors sail from Asia. ?
This article is about the Māori people of New Zealand. For the Māori people of the Cook Islands, see Cook Islanders. For the Maohi people of the Society Islands, see Tahitians. Not to be confused with Maouri people, Mauri, or Moriori. Māori (Māori: [ˈmaːɔɾi] ⓘ)[i] are the indigenous Polynesian people of mainland New Zealand (Aotearoa). Māori originated with settlers from East Polynesia, who arrived in New Zealand in several waves of canoe voyages between roughly 1320 and 1350.[13] Over several centuries in isolation, these settlers developed their own distinctive culture, whose language, mythology, crafts, and performing arts evolved independently from those of other eastern Polynesian cultures. Some early Māori moved to the Chatham Islands, where their descendants became New Zealand's other indigenous Polynesian ethnic group, the Moriori. Source: Wikipedia
Oh and while I’m on it all these tourists getting sold a “Traditional” Maori Hangi All introduced Pigs 🐷 Deer 🦌 Beef 🥩 Sweet Potato 🍠 Onion 🧅 Cabbage 🥬 Lamb 🐑 Traditional items Water cress Fish Human flesh 😂😂😂
I might be wrong here but, as I understand it, the "Maori " were voyagers, from a very specific group of Taiwanese. Certainly not indigenous to NZ. Perhaps, earlier settlers, but just as most others, foreigners. Claims to the land is only in being there before others.
Taiwan was indeed one of the starting Islands, but the waves of migration went out through the pacific at several different times, with the final one eventually reaching NZ. In the context of people, the term Indigenous refers to the first people to settle a place, as opposed to settlers that come later. Its a useful concept because otherwise there would be no way for anybody anywhere in the world (other than Ethiopia where we all started) to be able to claim homeland as there own if a more powerful force came to take it from them. That's what used to happen in the past, but we've built a global society today where that old behavior of 'might is right' is unacceptable. Does that sound reasonable? Or would you prefer a world where countries were free to invade one another at will, with no repercussions?
@@killjoyredux8361 Yes I do. They are still fighting for there rights and to unify Northern Island back into the rest of it. They were also done over by the English.
It's simple. Maori is a culture NOT a race. The race is Polynesian. Debbie identifies culturally as a Maori. The tattooed guy gave an awesome interpretation of the origin of the term Pakeha, and is correct in saying they were escaping a horrid life in UK, especially Scotland. Ngati Pakeha are the most recent iwi :)
If Māori are a culture not a race, then so are the English, since they're just Irish/Scottish, Danish, Saxon, Norman (and the indigenous British) etc. Pakeha aren't iwi, thats a tribal grouping specific to Māori. Pakeha have their own societal structures brought over from Europe (immediate family, extended family etc etc).
@@drednorzt English refers to people from England, not a culture. Celtic is a culture to which some English, Welsh, Irish, and Scot people identify; with some of those people able to speak a respective dialect of Gaelic. Yes, I agree with your statements on pakeha, I just thought it was interesting how the tattooed guy interprets the origin of the name.
honestly the amount of ignorance in the comments is unbelievable, simple research of documented facts isn't really that hard, come on people do better.
@@logicalanswer3529 Maori were here before pakeha so that makes us the indigenous culture.this lazy ‘moriori were here before Maori’ myth is a lazy argument and it’s tired
To entertain the argument, I find it a pretty fascinating term, the word Pākeha. To delve a little into the mythological for a sec, I heard from a kaumātua many years ago that the word meant "breath of fresh air," which would also seem to align with the Polynesian term "Palangi," which were interpreted as "gates of heaven." Some say Pākeha originates from the fabled Pātupaiarehe, the fair-skinned blue fairies who lived in the mists. However, the Maori gentleman in the video appears to allude to the Celts, though no archaeological evidence or lore suggests Celts were sea-faring nor great navigators. Vikings, perhaps, but no archaeological evidence suggests this or at least bones of Viking stature. But you must admit, this is all speculation, hence the problem. As fascinating as the origin of Pākeha means, the simple answer is probably just "foreigner", though the nuances may vary across contexts. Palangi and Pākeha are just a dialectical variation common in many Polynesian cultures. Regardless, it's just a fact that there were no pre-Māori people in Aotearoa, unless we entertain pseudo-historical claims about the Celts, Vikings, Egyptians, Chinese or even the fabled Pātupaiarehe. Note: Going back far enough, nobody is indigenous to any land-an odd statement often used against Māori. Might as well say we all got off Noah's Ark in Turkey.
I'm Australian and to me if you are born in a place you are indigenous so that means the Whites are just as indigenous as the Maori . The Maori have not lived in New Zealand for a very long time because they genocided the natives in New Zealand
$2million for an archaeological survey of Waipoua? What a joke! There is no way that amount has been spent by the very small team who surveyed the forest. This is just an extravagant claim.
I am glad to hear the Turehu and Patupaiarehe acknowledged as the people who were here before the Maori. They were the original people of the land. If Maori who came after them are defined as tangata whenua, then why aren't Pakeha? The only difference is that Maori are still here. What happened to the indigenous people here before the coming of the Maori?
You obviously have some mental issues 😂 please provide everyone with names and office addresses so we as new zealanders can debate with the tuhere and putapaiarehe I'll be interested to here there side of the story
@@BlueBlue-j4w maori are Taiwanese - DNA proven. ALL maori should take a trip home and look at staying. I can't wait to read about it. Taiwan has 1000% crime increase, Taiwan hit by billion dollar claims, black power gangs importing drugs, maori want to change Taiwans name to Aoteroroa!! Ha ha
What the first person was speaking, 'Pakeha' were also Maori, because they did not come from NZ! The Maori, come to NZ in Canoes! So therefore the Maori are NOT indigenous!
You guys are REAL smart aren't you. You just complain amongst yourselves and regurgitate the same false claim over & over & over again. It doesn't become truer the more you repeat it you know.
That guy with the tattooed face doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Total confusion...😢 A whole lot of trying to use fancy words which didn't mean a thing. Just made a fool of himself..
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more adjective 1. originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native. "coriander is indigenous to southern Europe" Similar: native endemic local domestic Opposite: non-native introduced imported 2. (of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists. "she wants the territorial government to speak with Indigenous people before implementing a programme" Oxford Dictionary
@@antonmiles8167 Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more aboriginal adjective 1. relating to the indigenous peoples of Australia or their languages. "she's been working with Aboriginal people for the past 40 years" 2. inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists; indigenous. "the aboriginal populations in Southeast Asia" Similar: indigenous native original earliest first initial autochthonous autochthonic noun 1. a person belonging to one of the indigenous peoples of Australia. 2. an aboriginal inhabitant of a place. Source, Oxford University.
Everyone came from some-where else originally. My understanding of indigenous is a group of people who arrived and settled in a country and developed their own culture, language etc. several centuries before being invaded by another. This applies to Maori. The Mori-Ori settled in the Chatham and Pitt Islands and only ever made it to the South Island of New Zeakand around the same time as the Maori. They were never in the North Island.
Maybe read these first before saying things without fact checking them first. Mori Ori : A people rediscovered by the late Michael king (NZ Historian and writer). Tangata Whenua: a History by Atholl Anderson (NZ archaeologist), Judith Binney (NZ Historian), Aroha Harris (Historian).
@@carolecarpendale666. Well put. I figured this out at school back in the early 70s. I worked at Waipoua Forest during the mid 90s as a tree feller. During my trekking through the forest I came across these rocks and boulders that had markings on them, I asked my boss who is Ngapuhi what they were, he said they were there long before we, meaning both Maori and Pakeha, ever came here.
Definition of indigenous of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists. Māori did not inhabit the land from earliest times (what ever that even means) but they most certainly inhabited the land before the arrival of the British. I’m mainly British and part Māori. I am by no means a separatist or activist. I am a kiwi proud of my Scottish, Maori and English blood. Maori were indigenous though, it’s just a fact.
I thought it was pretty clear Maori had only been sailing around the pacific for a few thousand years. And that other people living on their land before them, got eaten up. Cmon mate. Indigenous doesn't have English roots. Hence colonial genocide are applicable to many races. Like didn't Maori with muskets shoot and genocide all the old Maori in the bay of isles? Who's indigenous now, them?
@@baadaaboriginalcorporation819 No offence mate, but you need to pick up a history book. the Moriori (as we know them today) arrived alongside Maori waka, instead of settling the mainland they sailed to the Chatham islands to which they settled there, A second waka at a later date sailed directly to the Chathams. this History is what Moriori themselves teach to this day, if you want to know more read the articles buy the well known Moriori scholar Maui Solomon..
@@2baganush so who's indigenous tonthe bay of island now, the old people Maori got shot out. Or the musket Maori? The story of history is politics, am excuse for genocide. ARCHEOLOGICAL evidence doesn't lie. Perhaps you should do some indigenous science. I'll take a look at the history from bro Samuels, thanks. No wonder they took off. Cooks journals were an eye opener. Walking past half eaten legs and stuff. Don't you fellas count your spiritual country off from the northern parts when you all die? Did the Europeans become indigenous to the empty lands they found?
@2baganush I'm not sure if finding an uninhibited island in the recent past makes you indigenous. Obviously, you stated, Maori doesn't come from that land. You mob arrived recently, and know you came from somewhere else. As I understand it. Even your death spirits make their way out of NZ off the north end, back to you fellas country, owot?
Probably the only culture that never got around to inventing the wheel or the bow and arrow. Debbie would probably argue with the Chinese that Maori invented gunpowder before they did. Let's not forget how they own the radio air waves too. My next door neighbour Rangi told me they invented the Crystal Set and had one in each canoe.
@@napoleanbonaparte1701 napoleon you talk a sad line of horse dung.like how many pakeha have tried to tell me their great great grandmother was a Maori princess.shite at its finest
It is another form of Maori intimidation ... facial tattoo's are intended, like gang patches, to make non-Maori feel scared, frightened, threatened, etc. If only they realized this fails and only makes the beholder of facial tattoo's think "silly fuck for disfiguring yourself like that" (or similar).
@@jimmyt5690 That's the best I have in the graffiti department. However, I have lots of other examples of dark humour relating to geriatric mishaps, Alzheimer's and dementia, along with deformed babies, disabled and wheelchair jokes, toilet humour, Irish jokes (these can easily be adapted to other cultures), little Johnny gags and a whole range of one liners and stand-up jokes. Feel free to submit your best and I'll post some more, but beware, mine are not for the pathetically-correct. Oh, and thanks for the comment. I'll try to improve my graffiti range.
The Maoris stettled in New Zealand in about 1350. 147 years later John Cabot reached Newfoundland. No white Canadian claims to be indigenous even though their European settlement started about 150 years after the Maoris settlement of New Zealand. The Aborigines in Australia by contrast walked to Australia over the land bridge that then existed about 50,000 years ago.
@@nickhanlon9331 not sure how or why you would draw a comparison between the indigenous people of Aotearoa NZ, the Māori and the white settlors of Canada. Canada has its own indigenous or First Nations people.
@@nickhanlon9331 Māori are indigenous to Aotearoa New Zealand and the First Nations, Métis, and Inuit peoples are indigenous to Canada. The indigenous people of both Aotearoa NZ and Canada suffered many injustices as a result of European settlers immigrating to their land. It may be an uncomfortable and inconvenient truth for you, but you can’t rewrite history or replace facts with your opinion.
Let’s be clear: claims that there were earlier inhabitants in New Zealand before the Māori are not just unfounded-they completely ignore the evidence. Some argue that earlier Polynesian voyagers or hypothetical pre-Māori groups were here first, but the facts tell a different story. Archaeological research shows that the main migrations of Polynesians to New Zealand occurred between 1250 and 1300 AD. There’s no solid evidence of any lasting settlements before that. Those pushing the idea of earlier inhabitants are grasping at straws, ignoring the overwhelming data. Now, what does it mean for a culture to become indigenous? A group becomes indigenous when they have a long-standing historical connection to a specific territory, developing their unique cultural identity and social structures in that context. In the case of the Māori, they arrived, adapted to New Zealand’s environment, and built a rich culture that includes distinct language, traditions, and social systems. Over centuries, they established themselves as the first and only people to cultivate a deep-rooted connection to the land. As for those fringe theories about pre-Māori groups? They’re based on speculation and lack credible evidence. The archaeological record doesn’t support them. Instead, it highlights the clear emergence of Māori culture after their arrival, reinforcing their status as the true first inhabitants. In conclusion, the evidence firmly supports that Māori are the first people to establish a lasting presence in New Zealand. Any claims to the contrary are misleading and ignore the solid historical context that defines what it means to be indigenous.
@scotane7753 Being indigenous is fundamentally about cultural identity and heritage, not biology (the human species). Indigenous peoples are defined by unique languages, traditions, and deep connections to their ancestral lands, which shape their social structures and ways of life. This cultural aspect is distinct and complex, reflecting historical experiences and relationships with the environment.
Hypothetically speaking, if I were to travel back in time to when all the continents and islands were one, would I even find a species of human there? It’s rather foolish to even consider this as a valid argument. You may need to look up the definition of ethnicity and culture.
Maori are imports from polynesia, they identify with a waka, shows they are imports and not indigenous, came here about only four hundred years before the first whites, they are tribal and stone age and any one on a council pushing this partnership rubbish must be removed from council, not their place to make this decision or show their position.
All Indigenous people came from somewhere else originally. My understanding of "indigenous" is a group of people who arrive and settled in an area or country and developed their own culture, language and way of living, long before being invaded by another. This applies to Maori
If we trace our ancestry back far enough, all Europeans have dark-skinned ancestors from Africa. It’s ridiculous to think humans just magically appeared in different parts of the world. Evolution clearly shows that all humans originated in Africa. Now, when discussing Māori culture, it’s important to differentiate between the migration of humans and the establishment of distinct cultures. Māori are Indigenous peoples whose ancestors came from East Polynesia and settled in New Zealand. Once they arrived, they developed their own unique culture, shaped by their environment and experiences-something that’s distinct from other Polynesian groups. Culture isn’t just about where you come from; it’s about how people adapt and create their identities in a new place.
O great back to using maori “mythology” to tell a lie. The maori are not indigenous, they say it themselves they came here in canoes not waka because apparently that word now mean ambulances 🚑🤦♂️
We are all immigrants. There are no indigenous races around the world. People have been migrating from place to place since the dawn of time. Every race came from somewhere else, including the Maori. They can't get over the fact that they are a conquered people. The land wasn't created by Maoris specifically for Maoris. It was here long before they came along...
Wrong ya dingleberry ,Moriori (as we know them today) arrived alongside Maori waka, instead of settling the mainland they sailed to the Chatham islands to which they settled there, A second waka at a later date sailed directly to the Chathams. this History is what Moriori themselves teach to this day, if you want to know more read the articles buy the well known Moriori scholar Maui Solomon..
G'day Terry Love your work! I'm fairly sure that Pakeha means long pig and is a term of derision. The standard reply is to joking return the compliment with Hori. p.s why not DNA test their claims. That chick with the moko doesn't look very Polynesian to me.
Lol stop lying now. Your bullshit stories of woe is me, no longer work on us like they used to. We got our eyes opened in the last few years. Game over.
People of the land!! Lol!! Go and have a puff on the Meth pipe and calm down. Then its off to collect your dole money from your European betters then its off to get some more scribble on your chin - the second chin!! Lol!!
Where does it show that Debbie was wrong to say that Maori are indigenous? The Maori narrate tor was asked about the word Pakeha to which he answered to the best of his ability, there was no mention of indigenous Maori what so ever.
@@garthdryland Archaeological MATERIAL EVIDENCE all supports the model of Polynesian's arriving here c.1280. It coincides with bioanthropological, zooarchaeological, and archaeobotanical evidence. There is ZERO evidence of another peoples being here prior to that, its just a ton of different made up myths. Are we supposed to believe the tattooed guys story about Maui who went fishing and caught the North Island. That is ridiculous its 2024 FFS!
But that raises the issue of which colonisation. If Maori colonized people on their way through the Pacific does that exclude them? If China colonises NZ in the future does that make white kiwis indigenous?
I am trying to find Aotearoa this mythical land on a map it isn't on Google earth and it isn't listed with the UN. Aotearoa must be a fictitious place, dreamt up by people trying to run a scam it doesn’t exist.
Very true - the disgusting stench of the "maori women" drove them off despite their coward husbands and fathers trying to sell these "oinks" off. Lol!!
@@davidboyd8113 Its not used as a literal translation. It was just a name used to differentiate us from Tangata Whenua. Debating the literal meaning is kind of like arguing about wether or not you can keep clothes in a cupboard, when the name is literally 'cup board'. Its not literal to what its used for, but its still useful having a name for it.
The Turehu could have been related to Australia's pygmy tribes on East Coast. Consider that New Zealand was once connected to the Australian Coast, before the Earth expanded and split land, or the harder to prove, Continental Drift theory.
@@drednorzt How can you debunk something that's in your face fact. Just look at the continents, and how they match a small earth conjoinment. The deny the Expanding Earth event, is to say Earth doesn't expand nor shrink with temperature - that defied empirical science.
@@drednorzt You just want to sprout the millions of year claim, which plays into excusing evolution has no basis, even in DNA ability at computational code.
So she says the real reason they dont like the bill is they”think” it will allow “corporates” to do something? Do What? and which corporates? Wow, so not actually against the bill really, so lets be honest its all just a beat up.
She's referring to multinational giants like Rio Tinto. Changing the legislation would help them do things like open up new mines in our conservation land and drill for more gas in Taranaki.
Also want to open up much more mass housing projects, which sound good but are build poorly (I live in one) and make a small % ritcher. They really have a poor way of pointing this stuff out. Personally id rather my local maori have unused gov land than another corporation. @drednorzt
Ha ha. Lol!! Go and ask an educated person what 24 generations means in years - what a muppet!! Get back to the Meth pipe boy and stop with your silliness!!
the word "pakeha' was a description of the pale people -"keha"- who came out of the ships- "pa"; quite simple really... as told to me by a very able Maori mentor that I knew...
Maori are also the indigenous of England according to ancient Maori oral history, recent reconstruction of Cheddar man confirmed this, Cheddar man was also found in an area where people were cannabalized. Should have heard the whinging poms when Cheddar man came out looking like a Maori haha
@@waenmanson3489 My oral story is backed up by science, while your fairy people bs is backed by Tinkerbell, unfortunately for Tinkerbell she didn't sign the 1835 Declaration of Independence or the 1840 Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
The earliest recorded people were the people of Maui, the ancestors of the Maori. The 7 waka did not arrive to Aotearoa, they returned. The story about people carving up the giant fish of Maui (Zealandia) was in reference to later arrivals once the continent started to be submerged by the rising seas, this continent was once named Maori. The Turehu (If they existed?) were said to have arrived after the people of Maui so Maori are still the indigenous
@@waenmanson3489 somebody lacks self awareness and education. It's not our maori that are notorious for that behavior. A recent example is the the Government apology to Moriori in 2020 for spreading the lie of their extinction, giving their land to another tribe (a tribe they had made homeless due to land theft) and disregarding their pleas for help.
@@waenmanson3489 Zealandia was only 'discovered' in 2017 by the colonial while Maori recorded it centuries ago. If you look at satellite images Zealandia is the shape of a fish, the only way they would know the shape is via interstellar space logs
It is a term used to describe people of European descent, particularly those of British ancestry, as this group was the primary one with which Māori interacted.
If you migrated here in your lifetime, then my understanding is you wouldn't be considered Pakeha (as I presume you still have Argentinian Citizenship). It refers to people of non-māori descent who were born here (so if you had children here, they would be Pakeha). But of course, if you become a part of the community you will be treated like your are one, like any welcoming community does.
The first people who arrived in NZ were Polynesian - they were the ancestors of Maori. Maori is a distinct culture that started in NZ - making Maori indigenous.
Maori/ pakeha are words that came into being simply to differentiate between the two : the same with indigenous/ colonialist !!!! Previous colonizers were simply recognized as the "Victor's " !!
This man w8th the drawings on his face is lost who are you speaking for remember whanau this man is speaking his opinion not facts it's a made up stories from him he's a clout chaser
Thank you so much Terry ❤for keeping all of us updated. You know exactly how I feel so I won't go into it here. Have written the truth on other channels and I can't be bothered or waste my energy with all their aggressive behaviour and nastiness because that is what they dish out all the time. Can't even have an adult conversation with commonsense and critical thinking on this subject or others. And I have tried with respect. Just wanted to say hello and I hope all is going well with you and your lovely wife. Take care my friend. Sending love 🧡gratitude 🌸and peace ✌to you both.
Check out the internationally legal definition of indigenous, that is the inhabitants prior to European colonisation and settlement. Terry and you are hoping the word means what you would like, which doesn't work.
What does it matter what difference does it make, I choose to try and treat people the way I would like to be treated, and get on with sheltering, clothing, feeding, educating my children and trying to teach them to do the same
@@A_kiwis_view Dear A_kiwis_view, thank you for your opinion and info I respect what your saying but you don't know my opinion, I was telling Terry how I have been treated with people when I ask certain questions or say this is what I have found out and told it's the truth and I always treat them how I like to be treated. But you do get a bit sick of the nastiness etc especially when your only asking a question etc. I ask with respect as I would like to know there opinion. So with all the hours of research I have done and asked questions on certain topics yes there are some that are very nice but overall of late people jump to the wrong conclusion and become very nasty and aggressive when I'm only asking a question etc or say it in my way. I love listening to people's beliefs and opinions as you can take that on board and with some learn from it. I have been writing to Terry for years now and he has an overall knowledge of what I mean. Because we have communicated through the years even Terry has corrected me which I think is super. No one is perfect and we all can learn from one another which I think is great. I will check out the info you have written for me and thank you very much for it's appreciated. We all agree to disagree and I except that but at the end of the day people need to learn to control their behaviour and stop the nastiness and all the name calling as it's not call for. That's all I'm saying and this is my opinion now. I hope you understand where I"m coming from because to be honest with you I do get things a bit mixed up at times. (Cognitive issues) I has an accident and I'm not embarrassed to tell you this. Thank you for taking the time to read my reply. Take care. With love ❤and peace ✌
@@debbielacey6229 I respect your search for what is true. To communicate we need to have meaning for the words we use. That meaning requires mutual understanding. Claiming that a word means what we like is the Queen of Hearts claim in Alice in Wonderland. The widely and internationally agreed meaning of human settlement is that aboriginal people are the inhabitants of a land before recorded history, say ten to twelve thousand years ago, indigenous inhabitants were those people that lived in a country prior to European colonial exploration and settlement, that is from 1492, less than 600 years ago. This navel gazing over the word indigenous is specious. Hopefully I've helped your understanding of this racist use of the word to denigrate the Maori people.
According to the UN (193 member states) and a specific definition of an ambiguous term "Indigenous people", Maori are the indigenous people of NZ. Terry Opine's opinion doesn't mean shit.
BTW, that rounded bolder, had written text carved into it...we all know Maori never had a written language.
@@NA-sj9jy Are ya sure? because the one in the Kaimanawa had no writing just cracks in a rock no other signs of a temple.
Think ya just another story teller
@JohnMiller-zz3yg just possibly, just possibly it's because they are two different rocks in two different places?
@@NA-sj9jy they did have a written language, albiet symbolic.
@@NA-sj9jy if it wasn’t for the Romans, English wouldn’t either 🤷♂️
Its caused by plant roots on the boulder, there's tons of examples of this. It doesn't even look remotely like a written language or any form of design. But we can always pretend right!
From an outsider's point of view : I think New Zealand has it wrong!
It is the Maori who should apologize to the Moriori and the Crown, not the other way around?
@JOATMOFA Maori did make peace with the Moriori. The crown took their land to.Morioro ,are alive and well.
Window shopping can sometimes be a fantasy.
@@tracymichaelsen493 BS - learn some real history and not the racist maori drivel!!
@@tracymichaelsen493 which treaty is that?
From an insiders point of view: Outsiders don't really have any right to have a say.
@drednorzt how much of an insider are you?
Just watch till the end, it's very enlightening. Maori are not not indigenous to New Zealand.
The audacity to say he had the audacity to say it was audacious.
There are no Maori remaining, only part Maori. We are all NZers, I was born here too, of numerous races as are they. Te Pati Maori received only 3% of the vote last election, and none of that could possibly come from full blooded Maori, indeed it is far from a majority of part Maori. Te Pati Maori speaks for no one of any significance as far as I can see, including the majority of part Maori. We have a choice between apartheid or democracy, plain and simple.
Maori is a culture not a race. Did you miss 100, 000 Maori marching the entirety of NZ just recently?
Really....actually there are quite a few in almost every iwi. Let's start with the new Maori Queen who is the direct descendant of the previous 8 Maori Monarchs
@@Criticont Did you miss the point I made when you invented that diatribe? We agree Maori is not a race then? There are many cultures alive and well, and languages also, globally for which there is no living representative, eg Guarani. The memories and customs are preserved, even venerated, but have no political power, nor should they. We are a democracy or we are not, no middle ground. One adult is one vote, all equal, no more and no less. Or it is apartheid.
@@tiopirata2 LOL you didn't make any point, just some uneducated nonsense about blood percentages that has ZERO credibility in defining a CULTURE. And you think we are a democracy? Did you miss the FORCED lockdowns we just went through along with all of the illegal mandates?? You seem to miss a lot - get your head out of the sand dummy.
@@carolecarpendale666 But she is not full blood Maori. And as you point out, her lineage to royalty only goes back 7 generations. Even mine goes back further then that.
Australian Aboriginal are truely indigenous people they have been in Australia for 40 thousand years
( approximately) , not just a few hundred years before being conquered by an advanced culture.
That said, Europeans have lived on the European continent for 1000's of years, likely longer than aboriginal people in Australia. Do white people in Europe claim themselves as more worthy of living in Europe?
The only reason they invent the 40 thousand year old aboriginal is because they're using you as backup for the evolution Story, and if you've been around the longest then Your the most closely related to the apes they claim as ancestors. So it's not a 40,000 year old compliment, it's actually an insult.
Indigenous Australians are well documented as being the longest running occupiers of land & continuous culture compared to every other culture on Earth. Its a feat to marvel at.
@@everobertshaw9285 So your an evolution denier to. That explains a lot.
@@drednorzt nonsense!
we are NOT indigenous to AotearoaNZ...we are from Asia...we came from ASIA...eight hundred to a thousand years ago...we voyaged east across the pacific ocean...dna tells us that...SCIENCE!!
kon tiki expedition..to prove how people moved around
We all came from Africa dickhead.
800,000 to 1,000 years I'm pretty sure thanks to carbon dating scientists have estimated that we have been in the Polynesian region an estimated around 3,900 years ago
@@KRM85 ...gosh...such a mature response.
Our species originated in Africa, and as groups migrated, they developed distinct cultures shaped by their environments. It’s essential to differentiate between culture and ethnicity: culture encompasses the customs and practices that arise in particular settings, while ethnicity involves shared traits like language and history.
While we all share a common ancestry, our cultural and ethnic identities have evolved in response to the unique challenges and experiences of different regions. This diversity enriches our global community, emphasizing both our shared humanity and the distinct ways we engage with the world.
Despite the fact that Maori have ancestors who migrated, their culture developed uniquely here in Aotearoa, reflecting the specific influences of the land and environment they inhabit.
no no can't watch this rubbish
A bit hypocritical that a women that has more Irish ancestry in her then maori thinks she is just a maori and is dishing her other colonial ancestry 🤷♂️
Maori means ordinary. Blood has nothing to do with it.
@ what?
@@LHNA130 Sounds about right to me.
She's in it for the gravy train ride
@@terryopines8001 most of the radicals are
Guess what my ancestors have been on earth just as long as your ancestors 😂
👍Fact👍
👍Fact👍
Don't make it too confusing 😂
@@BC-tp8ep cool. Doesn’t mean they’re indigenous to Aotearoa NZ. Unless of course they are Māori 👍🏾
@@BC-tp8ep yeah in England.
New Zealand IS NOT CALLED "AOTEAROA" by anyone except some Maoris.
It is called "NEW ZEALAND" BY EVERY OTHER NATION ON EARTH.
Maori DNA PROVES THAT they came FROM TAIWAN, and their own culture and evidence shows that the arrived around 500 to 600 years ago.
The EVIDENCE SHOWS that the MORIORI WERE HERE A MINIMUM OF 2,000 YEARS AGO.
The Maoris DID NOT HAVE ANY CENTRAL GOVERNMENT OR ONE GROUP of people, and lived IN DIFFERENT TRIBAL ENCAMPMENTS under one Leader, in a dictatorship AS CANNIBALISTIC WARRIORS who were CONSTANTLY at war WITH EACH OTHER.
The Treaty of Waitangi WAS A TREATY BETWEEN ALL THE MAORI LEADERS TO STOP FIGHTING for control of New Zealand, AND BECOME ONE PEOPLE, with ONE Government under and part of the BRITISH EMPIRE, with ONE LAW being the Laws set by the DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT of New Zealand based on the British Laws.
MANY MAORI ALSO joined the British religions AND GAVE UP ALL THEIR PAGAN GODS.
The Maori "Politicians" of the Maori Political Party are RACIST BY NATURE OF EXCLUDING NON-MAORI MEMBERSHIP, and are NOT EXPERIENCED in actually speaking for or making policies for MAORI NEW ZEALANDERS.
They oppose a Bill THAT WOULD CLARIFY THE PRINCIPALS OF THE TREATY directly related to
ONE Nation, ONE group of people, and ONE set of Laws for EVERYONE.
Kupe voyager related to maori blood sailed to top of north island views lots of long white clouds in .maori land of long white clouds ( Aotearoa )
@@AdamGee-z8q He actually landed on an island that is STILL CALLED "AOTEA" TODAY, and when he climbed up to the top of the extinct volcano crater edge HE THEN SAW ANOTHER ISLAND, being the NORTH ISLAND.
The island he landed on HAS A MARKER AT THE SPOT on the beach, and the local Maoris WILL CONFIRM THAT IS WHERE HE LANDED.
You can catch a ferry from AUCKLAND to AOTEA ISLAND in the Hauraki Gulf, it takes about 4 hrs by boat, or you can FLY THERE with the Airline with the ENGLISH NAME for AOTEA ISLAND, which is GREAT BARRIER ISLAND.
I know that the Maori people ARGUE about almost EVERYTHING and that is because THEY ALWAYS HAVE.
It is the MAIN REASON that they were always fighting , killing, and eating each other UNTIL they were STOPPED BY THE ENGLISH SETTLERS.
Totally agree. That "offensive" name was coined by an Englishman. There are NO maori left in New Zealand - look at maori party PACKER -" its" heritage is Irish Mother , half cast Irish father - thats a "maori"?? Lol!!
@@waenmanson3489 why is Aotearoa offensive ?
It's documented by European archeological facts on maori and moriori and historical newspapers and public witness records on scandals greed and cruption by Nz government representatives of the crown ignore there own laws for own empowerment which out lines deception by Nz government and cared for by the Crown ..English queen and country the titirit was signed by both maori and the crown under the titiriti protects us all anyway .
"Aotearoa is actually one of the Māori names for the North Island of New Zealand, and has never included the South Island of New Zealand"
And why Ngai Tahu said their territory will never be known as Aotearoa
Like the land of the long white cloud was meaning the North Island as they could not see the South Island from Aotea
North Island Maori are not tangata whenua in the South Island either and have no special rights here
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Interesting input.
Aotearoa - Land of the long white cloud
Te Ika a Maui - North Is
Te Waipounamu - Sth Is
My 4yr old knows this stuff. Do better
@@missshante808 You say that like he's wrong.
@@missshante808"Kāi Tahu leader Edward Ellison confirmed recently that Aotearoa was not used in the south; the island was primarily known as Te Waipounamu. He suggested that ‘Aotearoa me Te Wai Pounamu’ was the commonly used term for the two main islands."
North and South Island
They are indigenous to Aotearoa like aboriginal to australia whiteman no indigenous LOL
How is it that those who committed genocide, enslaved others, murdered whole defenseless tribes and cannibalized the Moriori can make demands from the Crown? The Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand, but killed and ate, yes, they had eaten (how is that for civilized?) the Moriori who were the original inhabitants of New Zealand. Now they are calling the Europeans unlawful intruders and are demanding financial restitution from the crown? Who does the Moriori turn to for compensation?
Both Māori and Moriori share a common ancestor, as linguistically they have much in common. Their ancestors likely left East Polynesia from the same region. Moriori are believed to have traveled directly to the Chatham Islands from their point of origin, settling there without further migration.
The crown already gave moriori a pay out and apology because the crown failed to protect them from maori. Can you believe that shit.
Moriori didn't settle NZ & what happened to them during the musket wars where some tribes of displaced Maori sailed from Taranaki on a British ship to the Chathams & did some horrendous shit that is a cold hard fact. If your intention is to drop knowledge & inform people then do some due diligence before spreading misinformation.
@@number4421 And then they were genocided. We ALL share a common ancestor if you go deep enough.
No shit, Sherlock-we all share a common ancestor. But when it comes to Maori and Mori Ori, they are closely related as Polynesians, especially compared to groups outside of Polynesia. While they are distinct, they share significant cultural and ancestral ties.
Historically, when Maori traveled to the Chathams, it was primarily two tribes from Taranaki that engaged in violent conflicts with Mori Ori, resulting in many deaths and even enslavement. It’s crucial to note that we can’t pin this genocide on all Maori, as they were not united at that time; they were divided into different tribes and territories. This division complicated their interactions and should be taken into account.
So, while there are differences between Maori and Mori Ori, their connection is much stronger than with any external groups.
That tiki needs to be bigger. To portray more maoriness, it should be dinner plate size.
Lol!!
Any bigger and they will need a w.o.f and rego.
Ngl dude that's pretty funny
Like your mouth
@@logicalanswer3529 Like your little brain 😆
So going by his words, moari are immigrants they came from somewhere else
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
adjective
1.
originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native.
"coriander is indigenous to southern Europe"
Similar:
native
endemic
local
domestic
Opposite:
non-native
introduced
imported
2.
(of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists.
"she wants the territorial government to speak with Indigenous people before implementing a programme"
Source, Oxford Dictionary
Thought you might need a dictionary.
Of course they were immigrants. They've never said they weren't. You got your own argument wrong. you were supposed to say they aren't INDIGENOUS. Lol.
They didn’t come from elsewhere - their ancestors did and they’ve grown in the garden of Aotearoa. You can have my comments deleted when you’re unable to debate but you can’t kill the facts!
I cannot believe how decieved maori are here. THEY are not indigenous! They have twisted the treaty to suit their entitlements?
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adjective
1.
originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native.
"coriander is indigenous to southern Europe"
Similar:
native
endemic
local
domestic
Opposite:
non-native
introduced
imported
2.
(of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists.
"she wants the territorial government to speak with Indigenous people before implementing a programme"
Source, Oxford Dictionary.
Thought you might need a dictionary. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Twist Everything to Suit
@@kevinbillings4728 twisted the treaty. Ok. Go do some more research
Yes, deceived are euro_peens and nonMāori trying their utmost to rewrite Māori/NZ history.
They are indigenous according to oxforddd.
Feeling a tad threatened are we?
Why are you folk trying to rewrite the history of first nation Australians, nativeAmericans, indiginous tribes in NewCaledonia, tribes across the entire African continent, BlkAmericans and so on!
We ALL see what you's are trying to do and we're not going to allow these lies to gain traction.
Trying to tell a lie long enough to the point people will start believing it. That's how you folk work ay?
That's what f r e e } mąsons do too. Their little weasels out in force spreading lies and trying to rewrite Māori history.
That's what euro_peens did the last time. No this time!!
Such unhappy folk you lot are.
There are some good paakeha though....but for the most part.
He lost me when he said European settlers have no culture
Lord of the rings ain't culture 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Maybe you should research celtic
@@KRM85 you know European culture is much older and deeper than any culture in Polynesia
@@malietoasamoa1301 It is, and there's plenty of it to go around. Māori only exists here, and nowhere else. Think of it like a species under threat of going exticnt, it needs ot be protected otherwise its gone forever.
Haha I get the joke, but if you are implying something else you need to educate yourself.
Shit. Anyone know why it being * suppressed* till 2063??
This information will fill in our hidden history gaps... stories and evidence of giants, fairys, shapeshifters and dragons to name a few. If we don't know where we are coming from and how we got here, we lose a great connection and remembering of the source. Leaving us easier to be controlled and not know our purpose or true potential in this human experience 🥸😎🤓
Because it would stop the gravy train.
So they can extend the track for the gravy train?.....
Because by then the Maoris hope to have taken over Parliament by breeding more children to get more votes, there is even a TV clip about 3 months ago of the Maori clown with the face paint saying this to a reporter.
Nice how they show a photocopied document and everyone believes it. Shows the credibility of the nitwits that believe this rubbish.
Well done ,well said, David Rankin Ngāpuhi chief has said on numerous occasions that Māori are not indigenous to NZ .
I'm as indigenous as what she is coz i was born here a long time before her or any other Maori much younger than me, for that matter. When i am visiting other countries the locals there often ask, which country i am from, to which i respond New Zealand, (not aotearoa coz they don't know where that is,) therefore i am indigenous to New Zealand as are all my siblings of Scottish descent.
@@daddybob6096 So your indigenous to Scotland. You settled in NZ.
@@tracymichaelsen493 I've never lived in Scotland, i didn't come here from Scotland . I was born in the South Island of this land in 1940 and served as a volunteer infantry soldier in this country's Army when i was 21yo. Don't b/s me.
@@daddybob6096 Maori also fought and came home to their lands stolen and pakeha soldiers gifted land. So dont fck with me old man.
@@daddybob6096 No you're not.
The legal definition of 'indigenous' doesn't fit your situation.
It is what it is
@@daddybob6096 if your claiming to be indigenous to Aotearoa NZ, than you must be Māori. 👍🏾
Someone lives in la-la land. They all forget the clever Maori of the day wanted people to civilise their lawless tribal lifestyle. The last human sacrifice was only in the 1950's. Let's just pretend Maori were farmers and fishermen?
And let's pretend the Haka is what all New Zealanders want to see before every international rugby game
@@terryopines8001 Totally agree - haka - an embarrassing joke!!
@jobird354 Doesn't matter. You can't take us to court for that. We are certainly taking you to court however . And we are winning.
@waenmanson3489 The true haka is the silent one played out behind the scenes and in court rooms.
Embarrassing is when the govt constantly loose in their own court and refuse to accept the judgements. Now that's Embarrassing 😳
@@terryopines8001 thats just silly.lets have a pakeha all blacks to go with the maori all blacks.oh no
This guy is allergic to research and fact!
1000%
@@jimmyt5690 Exactly 👍
So racist against white kiwis
Hows that
Yes...explain...all ears...
@WilliamBurton-1980 so now you play the victim card... how convenient... your last name isn't Seymour is it?
Against all New Zealanders
Pot calling the kettle black.
Can’t be indigenous to 2 countries
Māori are only indigenous to Aotearoa. What other country are you referring to?
@@drednorzt Their higher % Euro dna!
@@squashum778 Sure - they are indigenous to NZ. Please check the Oxford dictionary’s definition for clarification
@@stevo-007 I don't know why you think Māori are claiming to be indigenous to Europe as well. No one in the video said it, not even Terry. I suspect you never even watched the video and just jumped into the white supremacist dogpile.
@@hanzjensen2154 The main difference between the terms "indigenous" and "native" is that "indigenous" implies that something is native and has never been introduced from elsewhere
Protects us against corporate exploitation? Where was that in the Bill?
Keep in mind that this is her constant delusional state. I have literally heard her say that smoking / tobacco legislations are specifically designed to target and kill Māori because they die often of smoking related illnesses. She literally did not take into account any form of self-accountability.
I think I somehow recall that
Maori cannot accept facts that they did not discover for themselves.
It’s never Māoris fault
Sorry Terry I just saw part of my last comment on your video but, it is important to open one's mind. Great production for those who think critically.
Good stuff, Terry.
Could someone dig out a video with the same theme of locked-up historical sites? I viewed it years ago but can not remember the title. It showed a cave that was used by pre-Maori as a burial place. According to legend the bones were crushed and used as a lime substitute. The notable feature of the skeletons was the different shape of skull bones. Apparently in the same vicinity wind arrosion on sandhills has in the past exposed similar skeletons.
@PeteThecurious100 I think it was called Skeletons In The Closet or something like that. Sorry, I can't remember the author. I know it was a woman. I think her first name was Pam. If I remember, I will tell you.
@@terryopines8001 Goodman, ah I think it was something like that... I know it all looked pretty credible. Cheers.
I also question the importance given to who arrived in a place first. That's how children decide who gets the front seat.
Did Maori treat each other like that?
Is it really fair when it's by complete historical chance that it happened that way, and absolutely nobody earned it.
I guess if that's all you really have then thats the drum you'll beat, but you can't exoect everyone else to just go along with it as if it gives you some sort of special position because you happen to, by absolute chance, be their descendents.
Do you also think that Russia deserves to take over parts of Ukraine, even though Ukraine was there first? Or how about I come and move into your house with all my friends? There will be more of us, so therefore it will be ours even though you were there first.
@@drednorzt Maori sold 93% of the country. It's a completely inappropriate comparison. But way to disrespect your ancestors and inflate your own since of victim hood.
@@drednorzt Ok the Moriori were here first not to mention Hotu and Waitaha. Māori “culture” was to wipe them out! No treaty there!
@@stevo-007 The Moriori lived on the Chatham Islands, not the mainland. They're also still alive today.
@@Hatunrumioc Your making some big assumptions. I'm not even Māori, I'm Pakeha.
Māori didn't sell 93% of the land, that is a colonial narrative to justify the taking of Māori land through deceit, bad faith, manipulation and straightup theft.
Finally the concept of victimhood is completely made up. Its used by supremacists to justify their position at the top of society. Its claimed to be based on studies of women perceiving themselves in a negative light, but there are no sources given, and no one has been able to find published studies that match the descriptions.
what a word salad, is that guy kamalas brother?
maori on METH Lol!!
Now that's a low blow - to Kamala
+--14th century chinese imperial court records record a fleet of Chinese junks sailing to every corner of the world including a trip up the waikato and the area was inhabited
Tell that to the english/americans
@@CalGcastglassnz He can not because it is not true!! Grow up boy!!
Bro, even if that was true, Māori were here before the 14th century....so are you saying they came here and met Māori?
yes and evidence hidden till 2070 proves they were here .before maori
@@waenmanson3489 Actually,those records werev featured in a documentary around 24 years ago, including the wreck of a huge Chinese ship ,whose ribs were shown after being exposed on Beach in NZ. Then there was the Tamil ships bell,found in NZ. If the Dutch (Abel Tasman) could sail from Europe to NZ in quite small ships ,why couldn't my ancestors sail from Asia. ?
She needs a bigger tiki
They certainly were NOT First here , so indigenous NO !!!
Woofwoof thought yu wuza gonna?.. NOW Her mother full blood irish. Her father halfcast irish . SOOO wat does that make her ???.😮
This article is about the Māori people of New Zealand. For the Māori people of the Cook Islands, see Cook Islanders. For the Maohi people of the Society Islands, see Tahitians.
Not to be confused with Maouri people, Mauri, or Moriori.
Māori (Māori: [ˈmaːɔɾi] ⓘ)[i] are the indigenous Polynesian people of mainland New Zealand (Aotearoa). Māori originated with settlers from East Polynesia, who arrived in New Zealand in several waves of canoe voyages between roughly 1320 and 1350.[13] Over several centuries in isolation, these settlers developed their own distinctive culture, whose language, mythology, crafts, and performing arts evolved independently from those of other eastern Polynesian cultures. Some early Māori moved to the Chatham Islands, where their descendants became New Zealand's other indigenous Polynesian ethnic group, the Moriori. Source: Wikipedia
You mean Stole it from Patu Patewai people , they had NO Culture just Cannibles !!!
Oh poor racists feeling upset because the indigenous people are angry with you haha
@@woofwoof9647 I didn't write that. I copy and pasted from Wikipedia. That's a proven fact. Instead of your opinion.
Oh and while I’m on it all these tourists getting sold a “Traditional” Maori Hangi
All introduced
Pigs 🐷
Deer 🦌
Beef 🥩
Sweet Potato 🍠
Onion 🧅
Cabbage 🥬
Lamb 🐑
Traditional items
Water cress
Fish
Human flesh 😂😂😂
Better than English food. Its boring as hell.
Totally agree - Tradition and maori - what a joke!! Lol!! They should be serving them up what they "traditionally ate" - humans.
@@drednorzt wake up tomorrow and have a cup of tea
I might be wrong here but, as I understand it, the "Maori " were voyagers, from a very specific group of Taiwanese. Certainly not indigenous to NZ. Perhaps, earlier settlers, but just as most others, foreigners. Claims to the land is only in being there before others.
Taiwan was indeed one of the starting Islands, but the waves of migration went out through the pacific at several different times, with the final one eventually reaching NZ. In the context of people, the term Indigenous refers to the first people to settle a place, as opposed to settlers that come later. Its a useful concept because otherwise there would be no way for anybody anywhere in the world (other than Ethiopia where we all started) to be able to claim homeland as there own if a more powerful force came to take it from them. That's what used to happen in the past, but we've built a global society today where that old behavior of 'might is right' is unacceptable.
Does that sound reasonable? Or would you prefer a world where countries were free to invade one another at will, with no repercussions?
Do you extend the same reasoning to the Irish and their current displacement?
All Indigenous people came from somewhere else originally.
@@killjoyredux8361 Yes I do. They are still fighting for there rights and to unify Northern Island back into the rest of it. They were also done over by the English.
It's simple. Maori is a culture NOT a race. The race is Polynesian. Debbie identifies culturally as a Maori. The tattooed guy gave an awesome interpretation of the origin of the term Pakeha, and is correct in saying they were escaping a horrid life in UK, especially Scotland. Ngati Pakeha are the most recent iwi :)
If Māori are a culture not a race, then so are the English, since they're just Irish/Scottish, Danish, Saxon, Norman (and the indigenous British) etc. Pakeha aren't iwi, thats a tribal grouping specific to Māori. Pakeha have their own societal structures brought over from Europe (immediate family, extended family etc etc).
@@drednorzt English refers to people from England, not a culture. Celtic is a culture to which some English, Welsh, Irish, and Scot people identify; with some of those people able to speak a respective dialect of Gaelic. Yes, I agree with your statements on pakeha, I just thought it was interesting how the tattooed guy interprets the origin of the name.
Wouldn't the most recent Iwi be the Asians that now outnumber Maori in NZ?
@@Hatunrumioc LOL yeh true. Ngati Te Tou
honestly the amount of ignorance in the comments is unbelievable, simple research of documented facts isn't really that hard, come on people do better.
I agree. It is hard to understand how people can be so uneducated that they do not realize Māori are migrants, just like everyone else.
@@logicalanswer3529 Maori were here before pakeha so that makes us the indigenous culture.this lazy ‘moriori were here before Maori’ myth is a lazy argument and it’s tired
@@jimmyt5690 No. No it doesn't. A little education goes a long way.
@@accessaryman education?how about producing some verifiable evidence?isn’t that education?
what a waste of space both of them tame a john campbell clone and her ladyship a fast fading wannabe radical!
To entertain the argument, I find it a pretty fascinating term, the word Pākeha. To delve a little into the mythological for a sec, I heard from a kaumātua many years ago that the word meant "breath of fresh air," which would also seem to align with the Polynesian term "Palangi," which were interpreted as "gates of heaven." Some say Pākeha originates from the fabled Pātupaiarehe, the fair-skinned blue fairies who lived in the mists. However, the Maori gentleman in the video appears to allude to the Celts, though no archaeological evidence or lore suggests Celts were sea-faring nor great navigators. Vikings, perhaps, but no archaeological evidence suggests this or at least bones of Viking stature. But you must admit, this is all speculation, hence the problem.
As fascinating as the origin of Pākeha means, the simple answer is probably just "foreigner", though the nuances may vary across contexts. Palangi and Pākeha are just a dialectical variation common in many Polynesian cultures.
Regardless, it's just a fact that there were no pre-Māori people in Aotearoa, unless we entertain pseudo-historical claims about the Celts, Vikings, Egyptians, Chinese or even the fabled Pātupaiarehe.
Note: Going back far enough, nobody is indigenous to any land-an odd statement often used against Māori. Might as well say we all got off Noah's Ark in Turkey.
how long do you have to live somewhere to become indigenous, if you want to get technical every race on earth are settlers
Even Aussies know they sail there 600 years ago, wiped out the INDIGENOUS people already there
@@EricShingles-p6q your post makes no sense
@@EricShingles-p6q your post makes no sense
@@jimmyt5690 its history, sorry but it doesn't have to make sense
@@EricShingles-p6q where is ‘there’ and which indigenous people do you refer to?
I'm Australian and to me if you are born in a place you are indigenous so that means the Whites are just as indigenous as the Maori . The Maori have not lived in New Zealand for a very long time because they genocided the natives in New Zealand
Spot on
Very well said. True.
it doesn’t quite work like that 🤣
a black person born in india is indigenous as well?
@@tenbear5 Why , You are not telling me anything
You’re not indigenous Terry!!
Nor are you and your 2% bloodline.
Can't stand either her or jack tame
@@peterbishop1933 because you can’t handle the truth
@@Allemo005 youtube doesnt show how many dislikes a comment gets. a shame
@@peterbishop1933 do you think they care?
$2million for an archaeological survey of Waipoua? What a joke! There is no way that amount has been spent by the very small team who surveyed the forest. This is just an extravagant claim.
More BS, will it never end?
Silence isn't free mate
I am glad to hear the Turehu and Patupaiarehe acknowledged as the people who were here before the Maori. They were the original people of the land. If Maori who came after them are defined as tangata whenua, then why aren't Pakeha? The only difference is that Maori are still here. What happened to the indigenous people here before the coming of the Maori?
You obviously have some mental issues 😂 please provide everyone with names and office addresses so we as new zealanders can debate with the tuhere and putapaiarehe I'll be interested to here there side of the story
@@willzdag.o.a.t5836 They live in another dimension parallel to ours so you'll need CERN to create a wormhole if you want to get in contact
DNA is usually correct have a look mate ❤
👍Facts👍
@@BlueBlue-j4w maori are Taiwanese - DNA proven. ALL maori should take a trip home and look at staying. I can't wait to read about it. Taiwan has 1000% crime increase, Taiwan hit by billion dollar claims, black power gangs importing drugs, maori want to change Taiwans name to Aoteroroa!! Ha ha
@@waenmanson3489 Racist
According to Kupe on his arrival "The fires of occupation were already lit" so NOT indigenous
What the first person was speaking, 'Pakeha' were also Maori, because they did not come from NZ! The Maori, come to NZ in Canoes! So therefore the Maori are NOT indigenous!
You guys are REAL smart aren't you. You just complain amongst yourselves and regurgitate the same false claim over & over & over again. It doesn't become truer the more you repeat it you know.
@@trevaperes5343 look up the definition of indigenous in the Oxford dictionary 👍🏾 Māori are most definitely indigenous.
@@drednorzt the claim is not false . That some people dont want to get out their own mindset and ignorance .
@@trevaperes5343really?we aren’t indigenous? Well that clears it all up for us.ill go tell the others
That guy with the tattooed face doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Total confusion...😢 A whole lot of trying to use fancy words which didn't mean a thing. Just made a fool of himself..
He sure can ramble!
She asked what is pakeha and he answered it. Did u listen.?
@@baabaablacksheep4247 He ran his mouth for fucking ages.
I understood what he said perfectly well. Bryce gave a very thorough answer explaining the context of the word.
@@drednorzt He answered for 5 minutes when he could have said 'white New Zealander'. Shittest answer.
Bryce didn't answer her question: "what does Pakeha mean?"
He did. You just didn't understand it.
@@drednorzt what definition of the word 'Pakeha' did he give?
thats the grift, if you never define anything how can it be refuted
@@jonv570 classic rhetorical device to get around tricky bits : )
Phonetics pigeon it comes from bugger ya
Hariru
How do you do
All my old Oxford English Dictionaries say Aboriginal refers to people whereas Indigenous referred to plants and animals….there’s one for the boffins.
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
adjective
1.
originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native.
"coriander is indigenous to southern Europe"
Similar:
native
endemic
local
domestic
Opposite:
non-native
introduced
imported
2.
(of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists.
"she wants the territorial government to speak with Indigenous people before implementing a programme"
Oxford Dictionary
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Raises the question of why Aboriginal is not being used anymore….curious.
@@antonmiles8167 Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
aboriginal
adjective
1.
relating to the indigenous peoples of Australia or their languages.
"she's been working with Aboriginal people for the past 40 years"
2.
inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists; indigenous.
"the aboriginal populations in Southeast Asia"
Similar:
indigenous
native
original
earliest
first
initial
autochthonous
autochthonic
noun
1.
a person belonging to one of the indigenous peoples of Australia.
2.
an aboriginal inhabitant of a place.
Source, Oxford University.
@@BlueBlue-j4w
Doesn’t answer the question as to why Aboriginal is not being used anymore,but thankyou for your efforts.
@@antonmiles8167 guess people keep thinking of indigenous Australians. I do.
Its crazy how people dont know that this is a Polynesian Island 🤯 Do yous not have Google Map??
New Zealand is made up of Pacific islands. Educate yourself before accusing others of being ignorant.
@@logicalanswer3529
Pacific is a Eurocentric word, because Pākehā are dumb arses.
Indigenous does not matter, its the treaty that exists, and the wahtangi court that has a hope of protecting all maori and pakhia
maori are not indigenous.
🤣
Maori are not indigenous .Being the 2nd wave of people into New Zealand .MoriOri were the first wave people to land on these shores
Everyone came from some-where else originally. My understanding of indigenous is a group of people who arrived and settled in a country and developed their own culture, language etc. several centuries before being invaded by another. This applies to Maori. The Mori-Ori settled in the Chatham and Pitt Islands and only ever made it to the South Island of New Zeakand around the same time as the Maori. They were never in the North Island.
Third wave, 9.47 he said there were people here when the Maori arrived.
Maybe read these first before saying things without fact checking them first.
Mori Ori : A people rediscovered by the late Michael king (NZ Historian and writer).
Tangata Whenua: a History by Atholl Anderson (NZ archaeologist), Judith Binney (NZ Historian), Aroha Harris (Historian).
@@carolecarpendale666. Well put. I figured this out at school back in the early 70s. I worked at Waipoua Forest during the mid 90s as a tree feller. During my trekking through the forest I came across these rocks and boulders that had markings on them, I asked my boss who is Ngapuhi what they were, he said they were there long before we, meaning both Maori and Pakeha, ever came here.
@@HamishDalby I’ve posted this question over and over.’where is your verifiable proof that moriori were here before Maori?’ I bet you can’t produce it
What is the definition of Indigenous? and Who are the Tūrehu people?
When did New Zealand become called aotearoa ? That's not it's name.
It's still ONLY NEW ZEALAND. End of
Super called it Aotearoa
It was call aotearoa and still called aotearoa. Racist bastards. Fckoff
To us Maori it is. That is what our tradition tells us. Then again, I have no problem with calling our country both New Zealand & Aotearoa.
@tumhokia4447 There was never a Maori name for New Zealand. Aotearoa was always the North Island.
Definition of indigenous
of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists.
Māori did not inhabit the land from earliest times (what ever that even means) but they most certainly inhabited the land before the arrival of the British.
I’m mainly British and part Māori. I am by no means a separatist or activist. I am a kiwi proud of my Scottish, Maori and English blood. Maori were indigenous though, it’s just a fact.
I thought it was pretty clear Maori had only been sailing around the pacific for a few thousand years. And that other people living on their land before them, got eaten up. Cmon mate. Indigenous doesn't have English roots. Hence colonial genocide are applicable to many races. Like didn't Maori with muskets shoot and genocide all the old Maori in the bay of isles? Who's indigenous now, them?
@@baadaaboriginalcorporation819 No offence mate, but you need to pick up a history book. the Moriori (as we know them today) arrived alongside Maori waka, instead of settling the mainland they sailed to the Chatham islands to which they settled there, A second waka at a later date sailed directly to the Chathams. this History is what Moriori themselves teach to this day, if you want to know more read the articles buy the well known Moriori scholar Maui Solomon..
@@2baganush so who's indigenous tonthe bay of island now, the old people Maori got shot out. Or the musket Maori?
The story of history is politics, am excuse for genocide. ARCHEOLOGICAL evidence doesn't lie. Perhaps you should do some indigenous science. I'll take a look at the history from bro Samuels, thanks. No wonder they took off.
Cooks journals were an eye opener. Walking past half eaten legs and stuff.
Don't you fellas count your spiritual country off from the northern parts when you all die? Did the Europeans become indigenous to the empty lands they found?
@@baadaaboriginalcorporation819 What are you talking about???
@2baganush I'm not sure if finding an uninhibited island in the recent past makes you indigenous. Obviously, you stated, Maori doesn't come from that land. You mob arrived recently, and know you came from somewhere else. As I understand it. Even your death spirits make their way out of NZ off the north end, back to you fellas country, owot?
Probably the only culture that never got around to inventing the wheel or the bow and arrow. Debbie would probably argue with the Chinese that Maori invented gunpowder before they did. Let's not forget how they own the radio air waves too. My next door neighbour Rangi told me they invented the Crystal Set and had one in each canoe.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They probably claim they had radar and GPS as well...................
@@napoleanbonaparte1701 napoleon you talk a sad line of horse dung.like how many pakeha have tried to tell me their great great grandmother was a Maori princess.shite at its finest
Where is this Aotea-whoa place ?
Maori word for New Zealand
Aotearoa New Zealand
Aotearoa is actually one of the Māori names for the North Island of New Zealand, and has never included the South Island of New Zealand.
Never trust anyone who graffitis their face.
Scribble face - so embarrassing!!
Around here we call it a bar code.
It is another form of Maori intimidation ... facial tattoo's are intended, like gang patches, to make non-Maori feel scared, frightened, threatened, etc. If only they realized this fails and only makes the beholder of facial tattoo's think "silly fuck for disfiguring yourself like that" (or similar).
@@majorlaff8682 good grief.is that the best you have?
@@jimmyt5690 That's the best I have in the graffiti department. However, I have lots of other examples of dark humour relating to geriatric mishaps, Alzheimer's and dementia, along with deformed babies, disabled and wheelchair jokes, toilet humour, Irish jokes (these can easily be adapted to other cultures), little Johnny gags and a whole range of one liners and stand-up jokes. Feel free to submit your best and I'll post some more, but beware, mine are not for the pathetically-correct. Oh, and thanks for the comment. I'll try to improve my graffiti range.
They ate the evidence !
We are indigenous you need to stop your shit
😂😂😂 real funny shit
The Maoris stettled in New Zealand in about 1350. 147 years later John Cabot reached Newfoundland. No white Canadian claims to be indigenous even though their European settlement started about 150 years after the Maoris settlement of New Zealand. The Aborigines in Australia by contrast walked to Australia over the land bridge that then existed about 50,000 years ago.
Reference? My understanding was more like 15th century
@amygdalahijackers That's what he is saying.
@@nickhanlon9331 not sure how or why you would draw a comparison between the indigenous people of Aotearoa NZ, the Māori and the white settlors of Canada. Canada has its own indigenous or First Nations people.
@@Allemo005 So did New Zealand before the Maoris.But then they were killed or absorbed.
@@nickhanlon9331 Māori are indigenous to Aotearoa New Zealand and the First Nations, Métis, and Inuit peoples are indigenous to Canada. The indigenous people of both Aotearoa NZ and Canada suffered many injustices as a result of European settlers immigrating to their land. It may be an uncomfortable and inconvenient truth for you, but you can’t rewrite history or replace facts with your opinion.
Let’s be clear: claims that there were earlier inhabitants in New Zealand before the Māori are not just unfounded-they completely ignore the evidence. Some argue that earlier Polynesian voyagers or hypothetical pre-Māori groups were here first, but the facts tell a different story.
Archaeological research shows that the main migrations of Polynesians to New Zealand occurred between 1250 and 1300 AD. There’s no solid evidence of any lasting settlements before that. Those pushing the idea of earlier inhabitants are grasping at straws, ignoring the overwhelming data.
Now, what does it mean for a culture to become indigenous? A group becomes indigenous when they have a long-standing historical connection to a specific territory, developing their unique cultural identity and social structures in that context. In the case of the Māori, they arrived, adapted to New Zealand’s environment, and built a rich culture that includes distinct language, traditions, and social systems. Over centuries, they established themselves as the first and only people to cultivate a deep-rooted connection to the land.
As for those fringe theories about pre-Māori groups? They’re based on speculation and lack credible evidence. The archaeological record doesn’t support them. Instead, it highlights the clear emergence of Māori culture after their arrival, reinforcing their status as the true first inhabitants.
In conclusion, the evidence firmly supports that Māori are the first people to establish a lasting presence in New Zealand. Any claims to the contrary are misleading and ignore the solid historical context that defines what it means to be indigenous.
If you research plate tectonics you will learn that NZ was once part of a larger land mass so technically everyone is indigenous to NZ
@scotane7753 Being indigenous is fundamentally about cultural identity and heritage, not biology (the human species). Indigenous peoples are defined by unique languages, traditions, and deep connections to their ancestral lands, which shape their social structures and ways of life. This cultural aspect is distinct and complex, reflecting historical experiences and relationships with the environment.
@@number4421 and then te ahi kaa...the relationship between whenua and tangata is clear.
You too would build a massive stone wall while just "passing through"
Hypothetically speaking, if I were to travel back in time to when all the continents and islands were one, would I even find a species of human there? It’s rather foolish to even consider this as a valid argument. You may need to look up the definition of ethnicity and culture.
Maori are imports from polynesia, they identify with a waka, shows they are imports and not indigenous, came here about only four hundred years before the first whites, they are tribal and stone age and any one on a council pushing this partnership rubbish must be removed from council, not their place to make this decision or show their position.
Totally agree!!
Have you watched the Skeletons in the Cupboard series? Flippen eye opening!
All Indigenous people came from somewhere else originally. My understanding of "indigenous" is a group of people who arrive and settled in an area or country and developed their own culture, language and way of living, long before being invaded by another. This applies to Maori
If we trace our ancestry back far enough, all Europeans have dark-skinned ancestors from Africa. It’s ridiculous to think humans just magically appeared in different parts of the world. Evolution clearly shows that all humans originated in Africa.
Now, when discussing Māori culture, it’s important to differentiate between the migration of humans and the establishment of distinct cultures. Māori are Indigenous peoples whose ancestors came from East Polynesia and settled in New Zealand. Once they arrived, they developed their own unique culture, shaped by their environment and experiences-something that’s distinct from other Polynesian groups. Culture isn’t just about where you come from; it’s about how people adapt and create their identities in a new place.
O great back to using maori “mythology” to tell a lie. The maori are not indigenous, they say it themselves they came here in canoes not waka because apparently that word now mean ambulances 🚑🤦♂️
Got washed here - ate half the crew and were lucky to make it.
Who were here before the maori?
MOAS.
@@briansatchell2319 😁
@@briansatchell2319 what happened to the poor defenceless moa?
We are all immigrants. There are no indigenous races around the world. People have been migrating from place to place since the dawn of time. Every race came from somewhere else, including the Maori. They can't get over the fact that they are a conquered people. The land wasn't created by Maoris specifically for Maoris. It was here long before they came along...
They weren't conquered. They're still here & going strong. You can tell yourself otherwise all you want but your imagination doesn't change reality.
@@cosmichappening1712 look up the definition of indigenous. Māori are indigenous to Aotearoa NZ👍🏾
@@drednorzt Scared of the FRENCH - ran to the ENGLISH then was CONQUERED!! Go have another puff on the pipe boy and understand your betters.
@@drednorzt They surrendered, otherwise they would have been disimated...
@@Allemo005 They are from somewhere else and by definition, they are immigrants like everyone else...
Came over on their canoes ,, went full genocide on the MORIORI - The Indigenous.
Moriori history composed by EUROPEAN Authors
Wrong
Now now, we all know what happened,,
@@SacredDreamer no I don’t think you do.
Wrong ya dingleberry ,Moriori (as we know them today) arrived alongside Maori waka, instead of settling the mainland they sailed to the Chatham islands to which they settled there, A second waka at a later date sailed directly to the Chathams. this History is what Moriori themselves teach to this day, if you want to know more read the articles buy the well known Moriori scholar Maui Solomon..
Evidence of people supposedly predating the Maori in NZ is tenuous as fuck.
It’s in their own oral history; Waitaha, Hotu, Moriori and the “surveyors” who had stone buildings.
@@stevo-007 It might be true, but we need physical evidence before we can consider it confirmed.
@@stevo-007 Like the lanky dude says. Zero evidence.
The Bull coming out of this first guys mouth and how did they come here
G'day Terry
Love your work!
I'm fairly sure that Pakeha means long pig and is a term of derision. The standard reply is to joking return the compliment with Hori.
p.s why not DNA test their claims. That chick with the moko doesn't look very Polynesian to me.
Whites arent from the Pacific - Maori are - Whites are not the people of the land, Maori are
Return to the country of your ancestors - Taiwan.
Lol stop lying now. Your bullshit stories of woe is me, no longer work on us like they used to. We got our eyes opened in the last few years. Game over.
People of the land!! Lol!! Go and have a puff on the Meth pipe and calm down. Then its off to collect your dole money from your European betters then its off to get some more scribble on your chin - the second chin!! Lol!!
@@waenmanson3489oh shut up you rantiing coward
@@waenmanson3489piss off back to whinging england
Where does it show that Debbie was wrong to say that Maori are indigenous? The Maori narrate tor was asked about the word Pakeha to which he answered to the best of his ability, there was no mention of indigenous Maori what so ever.
Martin Doutré, seen in the footage towards the end of this vlog has put together a detailed breakdown of the littlewood treaty amoung other things.
@@garthdryland where?
LOL the guy that claims Celts sailed to NZ hahahaha too funny
@Criticont others were here and its never been denied
@@garthdryland Archaeological MATERIAL EVIDENCE all supports the model of Polynesian's arriving here c.1280. It coincides with bioanthropological, zooarchaeological, and archaeobotanical evidence. There is ZERO evidence of another peoples being here prior to that, its just a ton of different made up myths. Are we supposed to believe the tattooed guys story about Maui who went fishing and caught the North Island. That is ridiculous its 2024 FFS!
@@garthdryland you mean self proclaimed 'archeologist' Martin Doutre who has zero credibility when it comes to history of nz.
Indigenous means "people before colonization"
So you dont have to be first here to be Indigenous.
But that raises the issue of which colonisation. If Maori colonized people on their way through the Pacific does that exclude them? If China colonises NZ in the future does that make white kiwis indigenous?
@Hatunrumioc oh I agree. The definition has been changed on purpose. And I'm pretty sure it's only European colonization haha.
I am trying to find Aotearoa this mythical land on a map it isn't on Google earth and it isn't listed with the UN.
Aotearoa must be a fictitious place, dreamt up by people trying to run a scam it doesn’t exist.
Of course you can't find it, you're a idiot...
go back to england
Maori name for New Zealand where I live and I grew up in this Waipoua Forest and my dad saw the evidence
Aotearoa refers to a place in the north island. This is New Zealand - The home of New Zealanders.
@@AmeliaRosehe1 You typed "Of course you can't find it, you're a idiot...". Congratulations on ruining your own point.
What a load of human waste. 😂😂😂 I'm 1/74 indigenous to 3 lands Maori.
The Endevour crew didn't marry into anyone in New Zealand.
Very true - the disgusting stench of the "maori women" drove them off despite their coward husbands and fathers trying to sell these "oinks" off. Lol!!
@@waenmanson3489 No lad, its because of the Goats they had on board the Endeavour 🤣
@@KarlTebbutt Absolutely - look at the "maori queen" - total "oink"
@@mwiniata3147 Still BOY this did not stop the coward "maori" husbands and fathers wanting to trade their foul creatures for those goats. Lol!!
That guy is speaking bullshit Pākehā means house flea pa is house and keha is flea
A pa is a fort, not a house. A house is a whare.
@ okay so we’re a village or defensive fortress flea
@@davidboyd8113 you are boy!!
@@davidboyd8113 Its not used as a literal translation. It was just a name used to differentiate us from Tangata Whenua. Debating the literal meaning is kind of like arguing about wether or not you can keep clothes in a cupboard, when the name is literally 'cup board'. Its not literal to what its used for, but its still useful having a name for it.
Only if used seperatly. If used as one word it means non-Maori or foreigner.
Great vid, bit of real history ,,,,, end point is we are all from this land if we are born here, all came here in boats and all have the same rights,
The Turehu could have been related to Australia's pygmy tribes on East Coast. Consider that New Zealand was once connected to the Australian Coast, before the Earth expanded and split land, or the harder to prove, Continental Drift theory.
That was hundreds of millions of years before humans even existed. Your talking about the age of dinosaurs.
@@drednorzt No The Expanding Earth hypothesis happened only thousands of years ago. Example Earth changed orbit could be one reason.
@@JimmyCall I just looked up the expanding earth hypothesis, and it was debunked in the 1960's.
@@drednorzt How can you debunk something that's in your face fact. Just look at the continents, and how they match a small earth conjoinment. The deny the Expanding Earth event, is to say Earth doesn't expand nor shrink with temperature - that defied empirical science.
@@drednorzt You just want to sprout the millions of year claim, which plays into excusing evolution has no basis, even in DNA ability at computational code.
Doesnt pakeha mean something similar to the name given to the white maori who were here before the maori? Bruce mason reference
White devil 😎
So she says the real reason they dont like the bill is they”think” it will allow “corporates” to do something? Do What? and which corporates? Wow, so not actually against the bill really, so lets be honest its all just a beat up.
She's referring to multinational giants like Rio Tinto. Changing the legislation would help them do things like open up new mines in our conservation land and drill for more gas in Taranaki.
Also want to open up much more mass housing projects, which sound good but are build poorly (I live in one) and make a small % ritcher. They really have a poor way of pointing this stuff out. Personally id rather my local maori have unused gov land than another corporation. @drednorzt
I'm 24th generation. How many generations has your whanau been in Aotearoa New Zealand Terry?
Dunno..that might be where you come from, but we live in New Zealand, we run this differently here.
Lol… what’s it like to be a racist / supremacist ? Very interesting mental illness
@@NA-sj9jy You run alright... Run Nazi, run Nazi, run, run, run. How do I get out of this Trant-loving site? lol.
@@djpomare Ignorance and racism - what a great combo.
Ha ha. Lol!! Go and ask an educated person what 24 generations means in years - what a muppet!! Get back to the Meth pipe boy and stop with your silliness!!
the word "pakeha' was a description of the pale people -"keha"- who came out of the ships- "pa"; quite simple really... as told to me by a very able Maori mentor that I knew...
👍Fact👍
koon was taught to me by a great white man i know.
Thank you, simple but extremely elusive.
@@KarlTebbutt 'Racist' was taught to me by many different people.
@@drednorzt indeed.racism is the new black.
maori europen all being used to create division govt love this, distraction from the real problem which is GOVERNMENT.
Maori are also the indigenous of England according to ancient Maori oral history, recent reconstruction of Cheddar man confirmed this, Cheddar man was also found in an area where people were cannabalized. Should have heard the whinging poms when Cheddar man came out looking like a Maori haha
"ancient maori oral history" - Lol!! - that simply means to make up yet more lies!! Lol!!
@@waenmanson3489 My oral story is backed up by science, while your fairy people bs is backed by Tinkerbell, unfortunately for Tinkerbell she didn't sign the 1835 Declaration of Independence or the 1840 Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
@@MaoriWithAttitude lessssss go whanau. 💯❤️🖤🤍
@@MaoriWithAttitude Your oral story is backed up by sorbent long rolls.
The earliest recorded people were the people of Maui, the ancestors of the Maori. The 7 waka did not arrive to Aotearoa, they returned. The story about people carving up the giant fish of Maui (Zealandia) was in reference to later arrivals once the continent started to be submerged by the rising seas, this continent was once named Maori. The Turehu (If they existed?) were said to have arrived after the people of Maui so Maori are still the indigenous
@@waenmanson3489 somebody lacks self awareness and education. It's not our maori that are notorious for that behavior. A recent example is the the Government apology to Moriori in 2020 for spreading the lie of their extinction, giving their land to another tribe (a tribe they had made homeless due to land theft) and disregarding their pleas for help.
@@waenmanson3489 Zealandia was only 'discovered' in 2017 by the colonial while Maori recorded it centuries ago. If you look at satellite images Zealandia is the shape of a fish, the only way they would know the shape is via interstellar space logs
@@MaoriWithAttitude Back on the Meth "Boy" - your nuts!!
She is Indigenous in Ireland maybe.
It that a woman?? I thought it was a man!!
@@waenmanson3489 Who knows these days! 🤔😄
If she is of Maori descent she has the right to identify as Maori and you do not have the right to tell her she can't.
I was considered pakeha....(I am Argentine)
You are lol...white and hideous
It is a term used to describe people of European descent, particularly those of British ancestry, as this group was the primary one with which Māori interacted.
Pa=strong hold, fort. Keha=pale, dim moonlight.
It's not about race or nationality. It's just a blanket term, from a small language.
If you migrated here in your lifetime, then my understanding is you wouldn't be considered Pakeha (as I presume you still have Argentinian Citizenship). It refers to people of non-māori descent who were born here (so if you had children here, they would be Pakeha). But of course, if you become a part of the community you will be treated like your are one, like any welcoming community does.
The first people who arrived in NZ were Polynesian - they were the ancestors of Maori. Maori is a distinct culture that started in NZ - making Maori indigenous.
No it makes them immigrants. Like aboriginals in Australia.
@ It’s meets Oxford dictionary’s definition - people inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists.
Lol!! "maori" came from TAIWAN (like all polynesians)
@Jimmyjames738 The Aborigines are one if not the oldest known people on the planet. Yet you call them immigrants. Geez you are priceless.😮
@waenmanson3489 That would also sit comfortably with your racism for Asians then. Asian Maori? Now you truely are outnumbered.😂
they went to new zealand they are not indigenous natives they are europeans ....so are australians
Maori/ pakeha are words that came into being simply to differentiate between the two : the same with indigenous/ colonialist !!!! Previous colonizers were simply recognized as the "Victor's " !!
No 😂😂😂
This man w8th the drawings on his face is lost who are you speaking for remember whanau this man is speaking his opinion not facts it's a made up stories from him he's a clout chaser
Oh man, draaaaaaaag out the simple answer...and he STILL couldn't answer it.
Maybe some things have a deeper meaning than you presume they do. Bryce Aldridge is a very wise man.
While viewing that I was thinking hmm some stone age here somewhere.
Thank you so much Terry ❤for keeping all of us updated. You know exactly how I feel so I won't go into it here. Have written the truth on other channels and I can't be bothered or waste my energy with all their aggressive behaviour and nastiness because that is what they dish out all the time. Can't even have an adult conversation with commonsense and critical thinking on this subject or others. And I have tried with respect. Just wanted to say hello and I hope all is going well with you and your lovely wife. Take care my friend. Sending love 🧡gratitude 🌸and peace ✌to you both.
Check out the internationally legal definition of indigenous, that is the inhabitants prior to European colonisation and settlement. Terry and you are hoping the word means what you would like, which doesn't work.
What does it matter what difference does it make, I choose to try and treat people the way I would like to be treated, and get on with sheltering, clothing, feeding, educating my children and trying to teach them to do the same
@@A_kiwis_view Dear A_kiwis_view, thank you for your opinion and info I respect what your saying but you don't know my opinion, I was telling Terry how I have been treated with people when I ask certain questions or say this is what I have found out and told it's the truth and I always treat them how I like to be treated. But you do get a bit sick of the nastiness etc especially when your only asking a question etc. I ask with respect as I would like to know there opinion. So with all the hours of research I have done and asked questions on certain topics yes there are some that are very nice but overall of late people jump to the wrong conclusion and become very nasty and aggressive when I'm only asking a question etc or say it in my way. I love listening to people's beliefs and opinions as you can take that on board and with some learn from it. I have been writing to Terry for years now and he has an overall knowledge of what I mean. Because we have communicated through the years even Terry has corrected me which I think is super. No one is perfect and we all can learn from one another which I think is great. I will check out the info you have written for me and thank you very much for it's appreciated. We all agree to disagree and I except that but at the end of the day people need to learn to control their behaviour and stop the nastiness and all the name calling as it's not call for. That's all I'm saying and this is my opinion now. I hope you understand where I"m coming from because to be honest with you I do get things a bit mixed up at times. (Cognitive issues) I has an accident and I'm not embarrassed to tell you this. Thank you for taking the time to read my reply. Take care. With love ❤and peace ✌
@@debbielacey6229 I respect your search for what is true. To communicate we need to have meaning for the words we use. That meaning requires mutual understanding. Claiming that a word means what we like is the Queen of Hearts claim in Alice in Wonderland. The widely and internationally agreed meaning of human settlement is that aboriginal people are the inhabitants of a land before recorded history, say ten to twelve thousand years ago, indigenous inhabitants were those people that lived in a country prior to European colonial exploration and settlement, that is from 1492, less than 600 years ago. This navel gazing over the word indigenous is specious. Hopefully I've helped your understanding of this racist use of the word to denigrate the Maori people.
According to the UN (193 member states) and a specific definition of an ambiguous term "Indigenous people", Maori are the indigenous people of NZ. Terry Opine's opinion doesn't mean shit.