A few observations... 1) Once those wet pellets completed their journey through the auger, they were no longer pellets, that was just mush. That won't burn well. 2) Wet pellets must evaporate the moisture before they can burn again. This is the exact same problem folks face when they burn "green" wood that has just been cut down. The moisture content of a tree is roughly 40-50% water for fresh cut trees and don't burn well at all. Same thing here for this water logged charcoal. By comparison, typical BBQ pellet's have a moisture content of 8% or less. So no surprise your real temp was lower than expected in the fire box. What does surprise me is the fact that the Weber console appears to have been lying to you about the inside firebox temp. Was it displaying the temp it was set to? Or the actual firebox temp? A temp readout isn't much good if it isn't accurate. Makes you wonder about the quality and programming that went into the Weber control box. With the elevated prices historically for Weber products, I expect better of them. Guess I'm just an internet troll for expecting accuracy from a thousand dollar product. 😆 P.S. don't ever cook with wet charcoal. You need a good clean burn from charcoal for the food to be safe to eat. Seriously. Think of a truck engine that doesn't run well and spews black exhaust... same thing for a grill. You need clean smoke from a good burn, regardless of the fuel.
I think it had more to do with the igniter going out more than anything. The purpose of the test really was just to see if they truly are water resistant since water and pellets don’t mix. There was plenty of mush feeding through the auger. But rather than clogging, it kept feeding through which was pretty incredible. Typically the auger will clog/jam once pellets are wet or exposed to enough moisture. I would never cook with that soaked of pellets and especially not charcoal submerged. Other than a few igniter change outs, I haven’t had any issues with the grill. This was kind of a doomed cook with what we were trying and the weather. It’s just life and it’s not always pretty. Igniters are common to give out on pellet grills. I give the grill a pass on this test. I don’t think you’re trolling. Hearing feedback like this helps understand what others are thinking. The goal is to address most peoples thoughts/questions as best as possible. Sometimes things we think we discuss or explain enough we find out afterwards we should have spent more time discussing. Our team appreciates comments like this. Thanks for watching. - Sam
@@justgrillin You bet. Thanks for making the video Sam. Even though I think your video needs a rebranding... say to a title like " Let's Destroy a Weber grill with Wet Charcoal pellets!" I mean, I'd totally watch that! Who wouldn't? lol Seriously though, thank you for sacrificing your BBQ instead of mine. I keep mine under a covered patio with a grill cover near by for those days where it rains sideway out here in Oregon. You know, to keep the hopper dry. I liked the originality of your video. I didn't see any of that coming. I began watching your video because I am researching wood pellets and learning a ton of things like what an overpriced scam Traeger pellets are... at almost $1 per pound they are super expensive for NO VALID REASON... and their Hickory and Mesquite pellets don't actually contain any of that wood at all despite the package label. It's all essentially an artificial flavor created by adding some oils to what is either alder pellets for folks on the west coast or oak pellets for those on the east coast. There IS NO Hickory or Mesquite wood at all in those Traeger pellets under the same name. That's some shady stuff Traeger is pulling. Heard folks filed a lawsuit against them for it too. For comparison, SmokeHouse makes a great 100% Alder pellet (pure, unadulterated) out here in Hood River, OR and has since at least 1980 under the Luhr Jensen brand, well before Traeger even existed. I can buy them all over Oregon for $9 per 20 lbs. Fabulous flavor. Possibly one of the best. So I was really interested to see what you were learning about the Royal Oak Charcoal pellets. I'm glad to see Royal Oak is putting out a product that is exactly what it says it is on the packaging. I know the char wood pellets I've been using do add a really nice charcoal fired BBQ flavor to the meat. Royal Oak seems to be making a great product. I'll buy some if I can find them. 10 stores here now and I still can't find any. Thanks so much man for making the video. It was fun to watch!
I've had nothing but problems with the Weber grill. (I know, this is a pellet video...) After fooling around with the EX6 Gen1 for a few years I finally got tired of it and gave it away. Just bought the OK Joe's Rider DLX 1200. We will see if that one works better.
Would it be a good idea to use these pellets And blend them with your favorite wood pellet? Just thinking it might mess with the temp. If your smoking with charcoal you’ll likely have a few pieces of your favorite wood burning with it. Thanks
You definitely could mix them. I haven’t mixed them so not sure on how the flavor ratio works out to be when mixing. As you start to dilute these pellets with a wood pellet, my best guess would be it probably burns closer to normal because you’re not using 100% of this charcoal pellet anymore. - Sam
It should not mess with anything. The PID controller would know if it was burning hotter and add less air to keep temps in check. I bought two bags of these today So I guess im going to find out soon.
I chalk it up as unrelated to the wet pellets. The first generation glow plugs on the grill in this video were prone to dying. Wasn’t like an often thing but changed it out a few times. We just gotta roll with the punches when shooting this stuff sometimes. - Sam
I have an ooni frya 12 and my mom gave us a few bags of wood pellets for it. They SUCK. The chimney is always getting clogged during cooks. This video has me running out to buy a bag of charcoal pellets.
How annoying.. There's like no reviews on these new charcoal pellets... Wish you could of FIRST tested them normally to see how they tasted on food and then went crazy with the water tests 🙄.
It was planned! Just had some bad luck. I didn’t mention in the video but the smoke did smell good. With the Tropical Storm that just passed through, the raincoat I wore in the video has been a daily wardrobe staple and it smells like charcoal since shooting this. Hang tight, we’ll have part two soon. - Sam
Yes. I know that. Royal Oak uses water resistant because it’s a safer term. This was shot a while ago so I can’t remember if I used those two words interchangeably. - Sam
While your comment makes it seem like an obvious thing, it was a valid test to do. The way a pellet is made changes somewhat how it reacts to moisture since pellets are compressed dust. And no other brand that makes charcoal pellets advertises that theirs are water resistant so it’s a new claim for a pellet worth trying. Feel free to take this a step further and do the same experiment with other charcoal pellets and let us know how it turns out. - Sam
This was a GREAT test....Alot of pellets are a gimmick and arent what they claim to be, (filler wood with oil flavoring and not the wood you think they are). These could have easily been wood pellets dusted in charcoal but looks like royal oak keeps it REAL!!
A few observations... 1) Once those wet pellets completed their journey through the auger, they were no longer pellets, that was just mush. That won't burn well. 2) Wet pellets must evaporate the moisture before they can burn again. This is the exact same problem folks face when they burn "green" wood that has just been cut down. The moisture content of a tree is roughly 40-50% water for fresh cut trees and don't burn well at all. Same thing here for this water logged charcoal. By comparison, typical BBQ pellet's have a moisture content of 8% or less. So no surprise your real temp was lower than expected in the fire box. What does surprise me is the fact that the Weber console appears to have been lying to you about the inside firebox temp. Was it displaying the temp it was set to? Or the actual firebox temp? A temp readout isn't much good if it isn't accurate. Makes you wonder about the quality and programming that went into the Weber control box. With the elevated prices historically for Weber products, I expect better of them. Guess I'm just an internet troll for expecting accuracy from a thousand dollar product. 😆 P.S. don't ever cook with wet charcoal. You need a good clean burn from charcoal for the food to be safe to eat. Seriously. Think of a truck engine that doesn't run well and spews black exhaust... same thing for a grill. You need clean smoke from a good burn, regardless of the fuel.
I think it had more to do with the igniter going out more than anything. The purpose of the test really was just to see if they truly are water resistant since water and pellets don’t mix.
There was plenty of mush feeding through the auger. But rather than clogging, it kept feeding through which was pretty incredible. Typically the auger will clog/jam once pellets are wet or exposed to enough moisture. I would never cook with that soaked of pellets and especially not charcoal submerged.
Other than a few igniter change outs, I haven’t had any issues with the grill. This was kind of a doomed cook with what we were trying and the weather. It’s just life and it’s not always pretty. Igniters are common to give out on pellet grills. I give the grill a pass on this test.
I don’t think you’re trolling. Hearing feedback like this helps understand what others are thinking. The goal is to address most peoples thoughts/questions as best as possible. Sometimes things we think we discuss or explain enough we find out afterwards we should have spent more time discussing. Our team appreciates comments like this. Thanks for watching.
- Sam
@@justgrillin You bet. Thanks for making the video Sam. Even though I think your video needs a rebranding... say to a title like " Let's Destroy a Weber grill with Wet Charcoal pellets!" I mean, I'd totally watch that! Who wouldn't? lol Seriously though, thank you for sacrificing your BBQ instead of mine. I keep mine under a covered patio with a grill cover near by for those days where it rains sideway out here in Oregon. You know, to keep the hopper dry. I liked the originality of your video. I didn't see any of that coming. I began watching your video because I am researching wood pellets and learning a ton of things like what an overpriced scam Traeger pellets are... at almost $1 per pound they are super expensive for NO VALID REASON... and their Hickory and Mesquite pellets don't actually contain any of that wood at all despite the package label. It's all essentially an artificial flavor created by adding some oils to what is either alder pellets for folks on the west coast or oak pellets for those on the east coast. There IS NO Hickory or Mesquite wood at all in those Traeger pellets under the same name. That's some shady stuff Traeger is pulling. Heard folks filed a lawsuit against them for it too. For comparison, SmokeHouse makes a great 100% Alder pellet (pure, unadulterated) out here in Hood River, OR and has since at least 1980 under the Luhr Jensen brand, well before Traeger even existed. I can buy them all over Oregon for $9 per 20 lbs. Fabulous flavor. Possibly one of the best. So I was really interested to see what you were learning about the Royal Oak Charcoal pellets. I'm glad to see Royal Oak is putting out a product that is exactly what it says it is on the packaging. I know the char wood pellets I've been using do add a really nice charcoal fired BBQ flavor to the meat. Royal Oak seems to be making a great product. I'll buy some if I can find them. 10 stores here now and I still can't find any. Thanks so much man for making the video. It was fun to watch!
I've had nothing but problems with the Weber grill. (I know, this is a pellet video...) After fooling around with the EX6 Gen1 for a few years I finally got tired of it and gave it away. Just bought the OK Joe's Rider DLX 1200. We will see if that one works better.
Would it be a good idea to use these pellets And blend them with your favorite wood pellet? Just thinking it might mess with the temp. If your smoking with charcoal you’ll likely have a few pieces of your favorite wood burning with it. Thanks
You definitely could mix them. I haven’t mixed them so not sure on how the flavor ratio works out to be when mixing. As you start to dilute these pellets with a wood pellet, my best guess would be it probably burns closer to normal because you’re not using 100% of this charcoal pellet anymore.
- Sam
It should not mess with anything. The PID controller would know if it was burning hotter and add less air to keep temps in check. I bought two bags of these today So I guess im going to find out soon.
Did the glow plug issue have anything to do with the wet charcoal pellets, or was it a completely unrelated coincidence?
I chalk it up as unrelated to the wet pellets. The first generation glow plugs on the grill in this video were prone to dying. Wasn’t like an often thing but changed it out a few times. We just gotta roll with the punches when shooting this stuff sometimes.
- Sam
I have an ooni frya 12 and my mom gave us a few bags of wood pellets for it. They SUCK. The chimney is always getting clogged during cooks. This video has me running out to buy a bag of charcoal pellets.
Besides pellet issues, how do you like it? Seems like a really neat product.
How annoying.. There's like no reviews on these new charcoal pellets... Wish you could of FIRST tested them normally to see how they tasted on food and then went crazy with the water tests 🙄.
It was planned! Just had some bad luck. I didn’t mention in the video but the smoke did smell good. With the Tropical Storm that just passed through, the raincoat I wore in the video has been a daily wardrobe staple and it smells like charcoal since shooting this. Hang tight, we’ll have part two soon.
- Sam
@@justgrillin thanks
Here you go, part II: ua-cam.com/video/f1pXHEubq2I/v-deo.html
@@justgrillin Thanks so much. Loved the review
Part II!!!
It’s coming. Drops in the next 24 hours. This is our rainy season so it took us a bit longer to get out there and finish shooting.
- Sam
Here you go, part II: ua-cam.com/video/f1pXHEubq2I/v-deo.html
Water resistant and waterproof are two different things
Yes. I know that. Royal Oak uses water resistant because it’s a safer term. This was shot a while ago so I can’t remember if I used those two words interchangeably.
- Sam
um of course they are water resistant. charcoal does not expand when it get wet like wood does.
While your comment makes it seem like an obvious thing, it was a valid test to do. The way a pellet is made changes somewhat how it reacts to moisture since pellets are compressed dust. And no other brand that makes charcoal pellets advertises that theirs are water resistant so it’s a new claim for a pellet worth trying. Feel free to take this a step further and do the same experiment with other charcoal pellets and let us know how it turns out.
- Sam
This was a GREAT test....Alot of pellets are a gimmick and arent what they claim to be, (filler wood with oil flavoring and not the wood you think they are). These could have easily been wood pellets dusted in charcoal but looks like royal oak keeps it REAL!!