Thank you Paul for your work. I've been wanting to know about Kant and post-Kantians for a long time but just could not find the time to read them all directly. Your video is the acceptable length for my purpose of having an introduction. I've repeated this video and the other post-Kantians quite a few times. It is thanks to the videos being around 30 minutes my attention span could accept the repetition. I've seen philosophical subjects presented in videos of 1 hour, 1.5 hour long videos, which would not do the same for me. Conciseness is key to introduction and Philosophy needs it to be accessible.
What stood out for me in Herder's ideas, as presented in this video, is his insight about people's "roots", or language/culture. In contrast, economical oriented ideas such as Adam Smith's Wealth of Nation, would focus on people's "fruit", or productivity. I cannot speak for all modern cities, but in the North American ones which I had been, there is a bias towards "fruit"/productivity, especially in large corporations which are pillars of urban life. Whatever cultural background people came from, they would follow a homogenous corportate legalistical framework, and wear the same suites, speak of the same topics. What matters to most corporations are the "fruits", the "yield", the productive power. But how can a plant produce fruits if the roots are weak? A "fruit-oriented", corporate heavy urban culture therefore in the long run, just produce good workers that are weak people, whose inner lives are often deprived which require lots of material consumptions to fill the emptiness. In the city I live, Cannibis was legalized and it rapidly filled the market. I think what people really wished for might be the Leben-Geist, Heder had addressed, not the Cannibis-Geist, but they lack the option.
I have discovered my true destiny, embracing my Germanness through working and necessarily living in the British Isles for a few years. That was the real value I have found there.
fantastic and fascinating, what a modern mind. idealistic of course, but very sensitive and perceptive, and rather prescient in a number of things. as you say convincingly, an incredibly important figure within german romanticism. more "enlightening" arguments for how western culture has lost its way, its spirit, and chosen the damning path of materialism. the world needs to resurrect its soul. another outstanding video, thank you
Glad you have found these lectures helpful! It it is a pity that the Germans, but for perhaps self-obvious reasons, are not as widely discussed and explained in the Anglosphere. Alas, as someone who miraculously ended up with a lot of coursework and readings in the Germans at the BA and MA level, I feel compelled to do what I can. After all, I'm probably what one might call a fellow traveler with them.
@@PaulJosephKrause Fascinatingly I see many parallels to these German philosophers in Eastern spiritual philosophies like Vedanta, Buddhism, and Taoism. The so called "Enlightenment" was an extreme negation of the religious and supernatural dogma of Europe. These Germans and the Eastern philosophies have much value to our species and I hope the western world comes to appreciate them much more.
The 19th century German Constitution didnt in any way intend to protect the particular regional people's identity. The fact that the particular regional powers were recognized within the constitution was purely a matter of power politics. In fact the Prussian king would have prefered having more power and prestige assigned to himself only, if that would not have endangered the very prospect of German unification itself. Also, the strong emphasis on certain words in the video gives off a rather suspicious political image.
I would disagree with Herder. What right has one group of people to fasten culture within borders. What evidence is there to support this idea that it is GOOD to embrace culture at all. Attachment to ephemeral things even friends or the want of anything itself as bad. Herder’s philosophy is one of power. It is not humane.
Herder was not only opposed to anti-semitism, he supported full equality for Jews and was even one of the earliest supporters of a Jewish state, which he thought Europeans owed it to Jews as recompense for historical anti-semitism. In short, Herder is closer to the opposite of a Nazi.
@@frederickanderson1860 The concept of Germany identity wasn't a problem. Naziism isn't a logical consequence of the idea of German identity any more than of any other kind of national identity. Nietzsche mostly resented contemporary Germany culture for its protestantism and downstream effects of it.
@@MarkAnderson-ng8vc nationalism is a product of German idealism romantic idealism. The German state was a very young state, the holy Roma empire and the austro Hungry empire was a hogpoch of different nationalities,
He surelly had some influence in racism, but his work was filled with words against radical nationalism, so he shouldn't be blamed for that. Also I don't think Nietzche has been associated with racism for the past few dacades.
What do you mean ? Was Nietzsche responsible for slavery, genocide of blacks and Native Americans which was predicated on racism? That is, those races were less than human and therefore the white people could kill, rob and enslave without breaking the law or suffering any moral contradiction to the Christianity they pretended to practice. Nietzsche was just another white guy who gave the racism practice a philosphical interpretation. But now after having been condemed, Nietzsche has been reinstated in order to allow stealing of wealth. But no, it not theft, these guys we are calling thieves are not thieves but ubermach. You see how Nietzsche comes in handy.
Also nietzsche’s ideas themselves aren’t racist. It’s just that they can be interpreted in ways that enforce xenophobia. I personally believe Nietzsche thought about the concepts of power and other more as necessities in an animalistic world rather than moral guidelines for a civilized society, which is why, when read with ulterior motives, could seem like he’s promoting it.
Lol, nope, try again. Per wikipedia: "He argued that Jews in Germany should enjoy the full rights and obligations of Germans, and that the non-Jews of the world owed a debt to Jews for centuries of abuse, and that this debt could be discharged only by actively assisting those Jews who wished to do so to regain political sovereignty in their ancient homeland of Israel." Herder was anything but a proto-Nazi. His conception of a volk was mainly linguistic-cultural. He was considered Jews equal citizens and was opposed to anti-Semitism at a time when even many liberals were anti-semites.
Herder is so immensely important.
Thank you Paul for your work. I've been wanting to know about Kant and post-Kantians for a long time but just could not find the time to read them all directly. Your video is the acceptable length for my purpose of having an introduction. I've repeated this video and the other post-Kantians quite a few times. It is thanks to the videos being around 30 minutes my attention span could accept the repetition. I've seen philosophical subjects presented in videos of 1 hour, 1.5 hour long videos, which would not do the same for me. Conciseness is key to introduction and Philosophy needs it to be accessible.
Brilliant video. Could you do a video on Friedrich Heinrich Jacobi? Would be very interesting I think. Thanks for your work!
What stood out for me in Herder's ideas, as presented in this video, is his insight about people's "roots", or language/culture. In contrast, economical oriented ideas such as Adam Smith's Wealth of Nation, would focus on people's "fruit", or productivity. I cannot speak for all modern cities, but in the North American ones which I had been, there is a bias towards "fruit"/productivity, especially in large corporations which are pillars of urban life. Whatever cultural background people came from, they would follow a homogenous corportate legalistical framework, and wear the same suites, speak of the same topics. What matters to most corporations are the "fruits", the "yield", the productive power. But how can a plant produce fruits if the roots are weak? A "fruit-oriented", corporate heavy urban culture therefore in the long run, just produce good workers that are weak people, whose inner lives are often deprived which require lots of material consumptions to fill the emptiness. In the city I live, Cannibis was legalized and it rapidly filled the market. I think what people really wished for might be the Leben-Geist, Heder had addressed, not the Cannibis-Geist, but they lack the option.
I refer you to this title on UA-cam "Tom Sheehan on Heidegger and technolog" it will answer your questions.
Joel Davis sent me here
I have discovered my true destiny, embracing my Germanness through working and necessarily living in the British Isles for a few years. That was the real value I have found there.
fantastic and fascinating, what a modern mind. idealistic of course, but very sensitive and perceptive, and rather prescient in a number of things. as you say convincingly, an incredibly important figure within german romanticism. more "enlightening" arguments for how western culture has lost its way, its spirit, and chosen the damning path of materialism. the world needs to resurrect its soul. another outstanding video, thank you
Glad you have found these lectures helpful! It it is a pity that the Germans, but for perhaps self-obvious reasons, are not as widely discussed and explained in the Anglosphere. Alas, as someone who miraculously ended up with a lot of coursework and readings in the Germans at the BA and MA level, I feel compelled to do what I can. After all, I'm probably what one might call a fellow traveler with them.
@@PaulJosephKrause Fascinatingly I see many parallels to these German philosophers in Eastern spiritual philosophies like Vedanta, Buddhism, and Taoism. The so called "Enlightenment" was an extreme negation of the religious and supernatural dogma of Europe. These Germans and the Eastern philosophies have much value to our species and I hope the western world comes to appreciate them much more.
Bravo. Long live Herder.
On the beam!
Thanks much.
The 19th century German Constitution didnt in any way intend to protect the particular regional people's identity. The fact that the particular regional powers were recognized within the constitution was purely a matter of power politics. In fact the Prussian king would have prefered having more power and prestige assigned to himself only, if that would not have endangered the very prospect of German unification itself.
Also, the strong emphasis on certain words in the video gives off a rather suspicious political image.
Good to read this
Where are you from
Interesting, but can we call this philosophy?
I would disagree with Herder. What right has one group of people to fasten culture within borders. What evidence is there to support this idea that it is GOOD to embrace culture at all. Attachment to ephemeral things even friends or the want of anything itself as bad. Herder’s philosophy is one of power. It is not humane.
What you read
the two WW were not started by Germany, but by Britain and its allies.
Yap Hitler party had similar concepts about volk and race.
Herder was not only opposed to anti-semitism, he supported full equality for Jews and was even one of the earliest supporters of a Jewish state, which he thought Europeans owed it to Jews as recompense for historical anti-semitism. In short, Herder is closer to the opposite of a Nazi.
@@MarkAnderson-ng8vc well the concept of volk and German identity was a problem even neitzche admired the Greek culture to identity the German volk
@@frederickanderson1860 The concept of Germany identity wasn't a problem. Naziism isn't a logical consequence of the idea of German identity any more than of any other kind of national identity. Nietzsche mostly resented contemporary Germany culture for its protestantism and downstream effects of it.
@@MarkAnderson-ng8vc nationalism is a product of German idealism romantic idealism. The German state was a very young state, the holy Roma empire and the austro Hungry empire was a hogpoch of different nationalities,
Huiop verb and pronunce
Hasert
This dude should get the credit for racism instead of nietzsche
By racism you mean reality. What a pity little minds like yours have become so ascendant in the social media bubble. Go back.
He surelly had some influence in racism, but his work was filled with words against radical nationalism, so he shouldn't be blamed for that.
Also I don't think Nietzche has been associated with racism for the past few dacades.
What do you mean ? Was Nietzsche responsible for slavery, genocide of blacks and Native Americans which was predicated on racism? That is, those races were less than human and therefore the white people could kill, rob and enslave without breaking the law or suffering any moral contradiction to the Christianity they pretended to practice. Nietzsche was just another white guy who gave the racism practice a philosphical interpretation.
But now after having been condemed, Nietzsche has been reinstated in order to allow stealing of wealth. But no, it not theft, these guys we are calling thieves are not thieves but ubermach. You see how Nietzsche comes in handy.
Also nietzsche’s ideas themselves aren’t racist. It’s just that they can be interpreted in ways that enforce xenophobia. I personally believe Nietzsche thought about the concepts of power and other more as necessities in an animalistic world rather than moral guidelines for a civilized society, which is why, when read with ulterior motives, could seem like he’s promoting it.
Lol, nope, try again. Per wikipedia: "He argued that Jews in Germany should enjoy the full rights and obligations of Germans, and that the non-Jews of the world owed a debt to Jews for centuries of abuse, and that this debt could be discharged only by actively assisting those Jews who wished to do so to regain political sovereignty in their ancient homeland of Israel." Herder was anything but a proto-Nazi. His conception of a volk was mainly linguistic-cultural. He was considered Jews equal citizens and was opposed to anti-Semitism at a time when even many liberals were anti-semites.